Shave Your Acoustic Bridge Saddle The Easy Way
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Shave Your Acoustic Bridge Saddle The Easy Way
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I try to keep the string wraps under 120 turns, but that’s just me...
I keep mine under like 12
WTF is he doing....haha.....he's put the whole, uncut string on....haha.
Shaving an acoustic bridge the easy way....don't show anyone
Exactly!!
Lolol. Or explain the formula to acquiring desired string height.
Bingo! Lots of verbiage, very little practical information. Wonder how many he had in him beforehand?
Lol..I put my portable belt sander upsidedown in a vice, I just use two hands and equally sand with light pressure. I've done this to many guitars with 100 percent success.
🤣🤣🤣 That was a waste!
Hi Dave i've been absorbing all your wisdom for a while and have finally done a full
set up truss rod and everything thanks , you've saved me a fortune .
Dave's videos be very calming to watch. Tis good for the soul.
Hi Dave! You be good to yourself too! 🤗
Wow, this was so quick and easy I must have blinked and missed him shaving the saddle!
No kidding. Not the video I was looking for. The title is very misleading. I bought a bone saddle for my Taylor guitar and I'm looking for tips on how to properly shave it. Time to look at other videos.
Yep, definitely a down vote here. This video was worthless!
yeah..left out the part people wanted to see??
Thanks to Dave I had the courage to shave my bridge saddle........did the quarter trick, fit like a glove and she plays much better! Thanks Dave!
That WAS easy. I didn't see, hear or feel my fingers being sucked into your belt sander. My headphones and fingertips thank you. 😜
thanks for the tips. really helpful, I hate the very high action on my guitar. you can put 3 to 4 picks on the 12 fret, so hard to play fast. It's great that you can actually "shred" the saddle.😊
very nice guitar! even better now :-)
Any body have any idea what thickness of feeler gauge Dave is using to set the neck relief?
Oh man Dave I wanted to see the shaving I even had my earphones on😜
I have a prs style guitar I just finished and discovered that the wrap around bridge all the way flat is still to high for the action. What can I do?
I like this guy! Straight forward helpful advice.
Hi quick question, how much neck relief do you normally do for an acoustic guitar?
From the video that saddle is super low. Is it true that low saddle lose volume?
Do you sand the saddle by hand when it's nearly finished? Or make it all with the belt sander?
How to fix or fill out saddle that have deep string lines? Hmm it can affect sound on it if not been fix or changed?
I like your style!
I have found that a good break angle does affect volume and tone so be cautious of sanding saddle to low.
Isn't 5/64 is about just over a 16 of an inch No? Is that not a very close tolerance on the 12th fret for Martin light strings?
Are they not going to buzz?
Seems really tight to me, but wish I could set mine that low.
I have been experimenting with different manufacturers of guitar strings and have a set of Martin light strings.
Am making some new bridge saddles. Am going to shave to that, I just don't get it that there isn't going to be any buzz especially on the bass strings at that low of a tolerance.
I'll check it out, but am leaving about 1/32 extra on the bass strings, I can see that kind of sting height on the treble bottom strings but the bass E with a light string when plucked have quite an amount of radial action?
Explanation please?
I've got a 5 string yamahaha that i might just try this on
Enjoy your videos! What spacing are you using as the ideal neck relief at the 7th fret?
Woo I did my sanding recently to old KAMAN pre Ovation I adore. Now after many hours of love and hard surgeon like work...the action and playability is spot on thankfully.
Worth the efforts for such joy and love.
New strings are worth it now rather than trying to make a bow and arrow play well ha!!!
Rock On Dave-O,
H.L.
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Good job ! So you were able to get her back to life ? It feels great to be able to set our own instrument.
I recently bought a Gibson DOVE outta pawn shop from a guy that had played it ''stock'' from factory... saddle height never adjusted with big ass 13's on it !! I took my time and got her as low i could on a set of 10's tune half tone lower. She is KILLER to play now . I bet the owner would die to have it back if he'd try it now !
Nothing like a string height fined tuned for the string to slap the neck just enough... Sounds like clapton 's martin on his acoustic album !
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YES Indeed...Daddio 👑
Always with patience and love.
Blessings,
🍀 H.L. "Holly" Westlake
Maine 🇺🇸
THANK YOU for this video! I've ordered a Martin Sigma and the strings are pulling away from the fret board about an 1/8th of an in on the 12th fret! I am SO bummed as the action is too hard on my fingers, but the guitar is otherwise in good condition considering its age and price ($336.84 after shipping and tax)! This video gives me hope that I might be able to not only keep this guitar but return it to a reasonable playing condition!
Thanks Dave, you are a gift to all of us who try to copy you actions. You have saved me a ton of repair headaches!
Hi Dave, great video, how much relief do you like (what size feeler gauge)?
MY favorite luthier!
Dave love your show man
Love the " I love Lucy" quote. :D
What model I wonder. Looks like a road series GT, but the inlay dots look pretty big. Its def not a dread.
Dave.... happy Friday
Dave, what model was that Martin you just lowered the bridge?, Thanks and good job as always.
congrats on your retirement Dave, Fun Stuff! I am learning some good stuff, Thanks
Looks like a potential future neck reset, that saddle is pretty low.
dave yet again you are the freakin man
Sounds awesome when done.
I’ve just got a 1996 Fender DG-3 and it’s in a bit of a bad way and to top it off it’s been sat in a garage for two years 😂 I’m wanting to file the bridge as I want to put 12 gauge strings on it and the action is ridicules.
Dave, Wa'sup?
What happened to the Fein tool of many wonders?
From someone who went to school with imperial then went through the metric change got to say metric is so much easier. I still measure distance in miles though strange. Great video as usual.
Why double the distance to trim the bridge saddle? Been wondering a while and can't wrap my brain around it. TIA
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@@carterhale1894 I only have one hand
Can I ask, when you measure the amount you need to shave off, why do you times by 2?
Because the action is measured at the 12th fret. This is halfway down the string, so the hight change at the bridge is twice that.
@@Tomatovar The answer was so obvious. Thanks!
@@MKYCmusic hahaha thanks for asking it for me! LoL
What brand of saddle puller is that?
You can use a set of calipers to measure and inscribe marks onto the saddle to indicate how much you want to remove. I find this much easier than trying to use a ruler and pen to mark the saddle as Dave did here. My eyes, the ruler, and the pen tip don't have the degree of resolution that a decent pair of digital calipers has.
I don't know why watching this seems like a stress reliever but it is
Wow, so you have to be an engineer to sand a bridge saddle down? Lol, sandpaper, meet a bridge saddle. That's all I do, and it works. Takes ten minutes.
Do a show from outdoors on your deck patio area.
OK, call me an idiot but I don’t understand why when measuring the action, you measured x/64 (x=9 ?) and wanted the action at 5/64 (let’s call it y/64), you, rather than just removing the subtracted difference (x-y=z to be removed), on your sander you doubled, or so you said “double it” ((x-y=z)x2). I get the least common denominator of a fractional value now being in 32’s but not the doubling of the actual amount removed???
It was doubled because the measurement was taken at the 12th fret, halfway down the string. Any change at the bridge will be reflected by half at the twelfth fret.
Is there a way I can adjust my saddle down without going too far so I then need to shim it, or buy a new saddle? New saddle is hard to find for mine and always out of stock plus 15 USD delivered so I don't want to go too far though it is far too high (I did take a little off).
I just bought a TUSQ PQ-9280-C0 saddle that is the wrong size for my Yamaha FS800 guitar. What guitar do you have that needs saddle work? I might have a spare saddle for you.
@@brushstroke3733 Ibanez ALT30. I bet the saddle they use is for a lot of different models for their past, and present line-up.
Hold down the strings at the first fret with a capo, then measure the gap between the top of the twelvth fret and the bottom of the low E string. That gap should be 0.07" - 0.09" depending on your playing style and preferences. (I like the lower range, 0.07" gap). For high E, the gap between the top of the twelvth feet and the bottom of the string should be 0.06" - 0.08". (Note, these measurements are for acoustic guitars. Electrics are similar, but can be set slightly lower.)
If you measure the gaps and find your action is too high, first calculate how much you would like to lower the strings at the twelvth fret. Then, double that amount and remove that much from the bottom of the saddle. For example, if the gap between the twelvth fret and low E string measures 0.10" and you want to bring it down to 0.08", you need to bring the string down 0.02" at the twelvth fret. To lower the string that much, you need to remove double that amount from the bottom of the saddle, which is 0.04" in this example.
These measurements are difficult to make with rulers in my opinion, but they can be done. I'd recommend getting a set of digital calipers and learning how to use them. Also, string height gages make measuring the gap between the top of the twelvth fret and the bottom of the string much easier. Tools are expensive and you can do this without them if you are very patient and only remove a little at a time, but the right tools make the job much easier.
@@brushstroke3733 That does not really tell you the whole picture though. I knew all of that and in a perfect world works BUT this is far from a perfect world. I agree string height gauges that measure from the top of 12F to the bottom of the string are the best.
Shave Your Acoustic Bridge Saddle The Easy Way... Where? Saw you place measurements and then nothing...
Thought you were actually going to show your sanding process. What about other considerations like the break angle and string height at the nut?
When that 12’ string was going on I thought that Martin had a headstock winch.
Why did you take a measurement and then multiply it by 2? If it was 2/64 too high, why not just shave 2/64 of the bridge?
Because the measurement was taken at the 12th fret which translates to half of the height at the bridge. This is due to the angle of the string in relation to the angle of the fretboard. OK? :)
@@stutty1400 is that true no matter the angle of the bridge? Be it 3° or 5°
"Okay....We've got a Five String Martin" 😄
That saddle looks almost flush with the bridge. How is it playable with so little action?
So, I'm actually asking here, not picking. I followed the action being 3/64 too high, but how does that translate into removing 2x that? I would have figured if the action was 3/64 too high, I'd want to take off 3/64.
It's because the strings don't run parallel to the frets, they form a right angle triangle with the frets (side adjacent), strings (hypotenuse) and bridge (side opposite) each forming a side. Not being a smart-ass here, grab a ruler and draw some right angle triangles with an equal length base (frets) and change the length of the side opposite (bridge) and compare the distance from 1/2 way down the "frets" and the "strings" for a good visual representation.
Scott MacDonald that makes sense. If it’s 3/64 at the 12th fret then that upright of the triangle is taller at the bridge. I would have gotten there eventually. I would have just had to do it twice.
@@SeanKerns Thanks for the question and reply gents, answered my same question.
Jeez Dave how many wraps went on that post? I lost count at 37.
yeah, thats what I was gonna say. Its like no room for anymore wraps unless it was around the headstock,lol
High ration, slow turning. Probably only 4 or 5 wraps.
Where is the Saddle shaving part?
Hmm, I need to shave my bridge along with other things.
I would like to visit Newfie Speed and Sport but you didn't plug him. Is that the shop in Kirkland Lake, off 66? You left us high and dry. Now we'll never find it.
What the heck are they doing with those machines? Are you sure?@@DavesWorldofFunStuff
I always check the guitar over when it's tuned to bitch, too, before making any setup adjustments.
Yeah ... LET'S GO BUY AN ACOUSTIC
and ?
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I wonder if a simple flat file would work?
Sandpaper (150 or 220 grit) and a flat surface will work well.
Why did you multiply 3/64 times two if you only needed to remove 3/64 to go from 8/64 to five64?
He's measuring string height at the twelfth fret. That should be exactly 1/2 way between the nut and the saddle. So string height at fret 12 changes half as much as the change at the nut or the saddle. Doubling it compensate for the variable change.
@@DrPepperZZZ Thank you
@@Waltoo-jr1ji Happy to help!
I've got that same vac. It really sucks!
Either that string winder was turning awful slow or there's enough string wrapped on that tuning machine for 3 strings.
Editing?!
00:56 Through the headphones it feels like you are in the dentist's chair.
Sweet Jesus.
Sounds like 'Flower-dough' to me. Palmettos (trees and bushes) grow all-over the state.
As a member of the "Headphone Audience", I crack up when you comment on monotonous noises such as the power-string winder and the ubiquitous amp/ input jack grounding buzz. Most times.
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Why don't the acoustic guitar Companies
Set THE SADDLE LOW ( like this ) 🎸🔩✂️
and let those who want a " TWANG"
raise it higher!
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Because if they have any high frets, low action will result in string buzz. They do not want customers to hear string buzz when they are looking at guitars to buy. It's about making guitars with shoddy fret work pass people's initial inadequate inspections because they don't really know what they are buying.
No wonder you disabled the thumbs down.
The easy way? The avg person may not have a full luthier set up at their house....
You just need the 10 dollar string height gauge and a piece of finer sand paper and patience. I guess the fret puller is 30 but a steady hand + cloth + pliers do the trick. Watching this and a couple other videos helped me fix my martin.
Why don't you ever take the trouble to reply to some of the comments? I'm sure people would like to feel that you read them. I know you are busy but.....
i do
The easy way.... Have an electric sander.
EAT BEEFStewMacAND CHEESE
Nearly 8 minutes of NOTHING! Spoz to be helping us out here; not just amusing yourself. Have another one, pal...GD
What happened to the actual sanding? Waste of time.
How too drastically shorten the life of the tuning gear work! 😨
You were going to show the "easy" way of sanding . Next thing you're stringing it up. Nothing learned here
"Once I did what I did.." Can you PLEASE be more vague?
yes
Worst tuner ratio ever.
not very good explanation
What's wrong?