Right - and JP actually ended this clip by saying that men will do anything and everything to 'test' the strength or "thickness" of that boundary (you saying "No."). It's the price you pay for being a high value woman - it doesn't come for free.
In some culture women say, ‘No.’ And they have brothers and fathers that are right there to make sure men understand ‘No’ My mother said she never went any where without one of her brothers. My mom was a Filipina. I was sexually harassed at my workplace, I was 21yrs old. Told my dad and he took care of it. Never bothered me again 😊
I had a woman pursue me relentlessly, demand my number and then vanish. A woman saying yes or no doesnt mean much to me. Your definition of high value woman isnt mine. I have lived with rich women, they are a nightmare. Nevermind high value, low value. Do you like them and are they trustworthy? Nothing else matters.
Mmmm... so what did you mean when you said trustworthy? In a nutshell I believe that is what the video was about. But please, I truly wish to know what you meant by the term trustworthy.
I've listened to him a lot and never heard this. It's controversial, but I think it's true. So many woman are miserable for all the yesses we said. And younger women keep saying 'yes', then wondering what went wrong. Never heard it put this way.
Whether women like it or not The easier you are sexually the less value you have to a male. The more attractive she is the more males will want her, so her saying No shows self discipline shows she values herself, then if she says yes to you, she has raised you above all the other men that tried & got told NO.
The problem is that on the pursue of knowing people, mainly online through dating apps, is that, you have said no to many man, and when you finally find the one, and you say yes, that guy doesn't know he was the chosen one, and despise you anyways, thinking you say yes to everyone... It's a loss-loss game...
It depends what they are saying no to. It is not only intimacy abut interest. Nowadays, most of the no's are narcissistic. If it comes from a place of independence, "I don't need a man", then keep walkin' brother.
I've never been afraid to say no. I've always attracted high quality men and no one ever made me feel bad about it. If someone was a jerk. I would feel that i dodged a bullet
Women who think they are above me, usually misjudge their status, believing looks is everything. One who sees my mind seldom thinks she’s superior. Looks fade, fast. Intellect doesn’t
Seems like you are saying the fruit at the top of the tree are the sweetest but hardest to pick. The low hanging fruit are easy to havest but it won't take long for a person to tire of eating the mass amount of easy peasy fruit to get no matter how sweet they may be. I believe that a man is looking for a woman that says no because he wants to make sure that down the line his woman will not be concord by another man who has more (of whatever) then he can offer her. So if I were able to tell women, especially young women, how to find Mr. Right I would say the best and most precious love of all is by loving yourself, know yourself, and have fun with all that you are. Even if nobody is there to see who you are. Make yourself giggle at life. Feed and nourish your body with all the good things from earth because you value yourself. Make cleansing your body a valued ritual. Believe in your imagination of true love while you walk alone knowing that the loneliness you feel is perfect and precious because there is only one for you and it is worth the wait. Stand down the animal instinct to concour somebody else. Acknowledge you have one shot at true love and if you miss it you will surely get what you settle for (and you do not want somebody else's left over trash). Life is ~beautifuf~ no matter if you walk it alone. So make sure through all the tough times to remind yourself, even through the tears loneliness may bring- you are beautiful because you are loved from deep within your soul. PS never stop in hell to ponder if somebody is coming to rescue you. Just keep on trucking and heartfully know the other part of your soul is out there trying to find you. All the gold in the world will never give your soul happiness. Only you can. So get up girl and love you!
I think JP should compare notes with Orion Taraban. I don’t think it is the woman saying No to a man that make her attractive to him. It’s her ability to say No to other men.
@@rayc9899 Maybe. He is an accomplished academic who had a long career as a therapist. He grapples with difficult philosophical issues where making clear sense is not always available.
@@markaurelius61 I know many accomplished peoples who are the lowest of the lowest and they should know better how to treat humans. A degree doe not make a decent man, beware is the rule of life in 2024.
It's true that men don't want a 304, but I also think Jordan Peterson is out of date. With the #MeToo movement & "No Means No" I think there's a good chance a man will back off & not ask again - that's the sensible play, no guy wants to be thought of as a 'Creep' or a stalker & face a harassment charge. 👀
WoW! You sound pissed off at all men. Maybe you have been physically harmed? Or just so lacking in what love means that the #MeToo movement has made you a bully? Whatever your issues are you may want to seek a psychiatrist help before you get to old. Sincerely.
What if I don’t have so many offers I just Would rather be alone even if like the hottest man ever asked me to kiss him I will say no If it seems like he doesn’t like me or if he seems like a really bad person even if he’s a billionaire
With all due respect, I must disagree. High status men are NOT enticed or differentially value women who say "NO". Once a single male reaches the top 10% or better of men and knows his relative value, his "bargaining power" in relationships is unassailable. The reason is there are far more women who want him and are willing to compete for his attention than there are men competing for socalled high value women by conservative estimates of 4 -5 to 1. This paradigm is increasingly referenced as the Warren Buffett effect. Legendary investor Mr. Buffett doesn't have to "compete" for deals because first, deals come to him. Second, potential sellers don't have many alternatives to doing a deal with a Warren Buffett.
I don't think JP was talking about Warren Buffett or the kind of 10% man you are speaking of. BTW who would want that box of 10% men you discussed anyway but a gold digger?? My goodness woman! What would you get out of this kind of man but his $$$? Is that all you are looking for? A man who wants to buy and sell you on his arm? Are you for sale? In my opinion you missed JP's point all together. I recommend you look up the definition of what a high value man is. And it is not the 10% box of men you discribed (nor for sure Warren Buffett!). My goodness what a response you gave. Frustrated much?
Sadly, a man may miss out on a spectacular woman who was just overcome with excitement, joy and attraction and would have been the most loyal and wonderful wife to him. If there were no sincere feelings and it was all about lust... Then there's absolutely no difference between a lustful woman and a lustful man. God doesn't make a distinction. Where, in the Bible, does it say that the deadly sin of lust applies only to women?
I disagree that the ability to say 'no' is the most attractive thing about high-value women. I think that their ability to appear fearless' while they're implying 'yes' is THE most attractive thing a high-value woman can do.
Peterson among his peers is quite articulate but among the mass population he is remarkably inarticulate his constant use or academic and abstract terminology regardless of venue is amusing...
WoW! And you said all of that in one sentence too. BTW, I am one of the masses and I understand him. But reading your attemped intellectual response was amussing to me. Hahaha! Very amusing. Thanks for the laugh!
We don't want a woman that's been the town bicycle. Other than that we want a woman that can bring out our peaceful nature and thus calming us and bringing peace of mind. We want a woman we can HUG not just plain sex yes we like hugs as well and we probably need them more than women do. We want a woman we can share with whether it's a laugh, journey, adventures or even a tear doesn't matter we just want to be able to share and be understood. And we want a woman that's a true mother to our children.
Absolutely agree but the man has to be emotionally intelligent as well and hear us when something is bothering us and change their ways if it’s something bad and triggering.
Umiejętność przekazania przez kobietę " Nie " poprzez zachowanie behawioralne odnosi skutek w 74% Werbalnie może się to odnieść do sporu pytań i bezsensownych Jeszcze raz pytań. -A dlaczego nie? - jesteś po przejściach ? - wchodzi na grunt bardzo osobisty. - Już jest mi niedobrze. Tak nie przeczę miałam swojego czasu problem. Określono mnie kiedyś po wyglądzie po Chociażby po zapachu urodzie rozmowy (i mój głos o dziwo)zachowaniu się (behawioralism) Zawsze uważałam i nadal uważam ,że Jestem subiektywnie mówiąc normalna. Nigdy nie przyszło mi do głowy nie powiedziałabym ,że byłam obiektem .... Popracowałem nieco nieco nad swoim zachowaniem zasad etc... Czy się udaję ? Zależy jak sie ubiorę 😅 Dres jest najlepszym kamuflażem😅
@@BWater-yq3jx Yes, I do, if a woman in the past at some time has already been rammed on the first date by Chad or Tyrone, which is almost always the case now, why on earth are you going to be waiting around for ages - a man would just look pathetic doing that...
@lillyfahey1921 Well assuming that's the case I would like to avoid that "Honor" with such a 304 & find a woman who does not value Chad or Tyrone - nobody should settle for their leftovers...
You must have skipped the part about how the top female corn fantasies all involve cold brutal domineering men or outright monsters. Why do you think 50 Shades of Grey was such a smash hit? Feminists 100% have a taste for brutal male domination. We see it all the time in real life as well as fiction. Women will never admit this of course but it’s completely true. Not all women want this type of man but a great many do.
Somewhat reductionist. Among those who can and do say no, the better of these are ones who are economically successful. Sometimes because they are willing to contribute financially or if they choose to stop working they still come with a set of social emotional skills that are desired by very high value men. In other words beauty and class. Exhibit A is Amal Clooney.
Dear Beauty and Class, You are definitely a no. You might want to get your nose lowered about 30 degrees. Nobody wants to look at a face with a open double car garage stuck in the middle of their face.
He speaks the truth . I ask for respect in a relationship . And the partner will get respect back . If i get less than respect i just dont want to know . Womens pornography like any porn is just a fantasy . I want reality. So yes i can say NO.
Literally seek the kingdom of heaven and all things shall be added unto you. When you know God and live for him saying no isn’t even a challenge. You instantly disconnect from 98percent of the people God doesn’t intend for you and therefore become more ‘desirable.’ The real matter is how to be desirable to the one that matters. Again seek the kingdom first and all Shall be added Unto you.
Right. And there is always Rosie Palm and her 5 sisters waiting in the wind! Frustrated much? My bet on you is... yep! Dude you missed the whole point JP was making. Grow up. There is a whole world waiting for you when you do. But this is America. So stay in your room if you want to!
@@edenspurlin8279 I live in Europe. I dont take your opinion as fact. Europe is different. If she says no she is not worth of me and my time. Dont hate the player, hate the game.
@@omertaezWoW... Europe you don't say! I have only heard of the boys and girls in Europe that believe relationships are just like toilet wipes. And now- here you are! IDK, maybe you use a bidet? But this video is about Men and women in relationships. Not about boys and girls with their sex wipe relationships. Gosh, I hope you folks keep your facts over there. BTW, do you live in ALL 50 countries in Europe?
Such a subjective opinion. What about age, health, wealth, success, goals. If there is attractiveness, but full of negativity, as some models from my college, please not only attractiveness
I'm sure he feels he's doing the right thing as he has suffered a good many attacks from other people (particularly in Canada) for expressing his knowledge. If you appreciate careful intellectual rapport as I do, he's a joy to listen to.
It’s funny how I and many other women have been constantly verbally and physically harassed and abused by men for saying no.
Women get harrased into saying yes to avoid violent response from men
Right - and JP actually ended this clip by saying that men will do anything and everything to 'test' the strength or "thickness" of that boundary (you saying "No."). It's the price you pay for being a high value woman - it doesn't come for free.
@@jefforymerten9613 so sexual abuse and harassment is a price to be paid by women to be left alone by men? I am speechless…
Only by those after ONE thing
@@sandrabray1821who happen to be in the majority unfortunately.
In some culture women say, ‘No.’
And they have brothers and fathers that are right there to make sure men understand ‘No’
My mother said she never went any where without one of her brothers. My mom was a Filipina.
I was sexually harassed at my workplace, I was 21yrs old. Told my dad and he took care of it. Never bothered me again 😊
You think it's time to prevent women from leaving the house on their own? Man, welcome to the middle east.
I got married at 20, husband was 22. I never New any of this “game strategy “. Will be married 49 years this yr.
Congrats!
I had a woman pursue me relentlessly, demand my number and then vanish. A woman saying yes or no doesnt mean much to me. Your definition of high value woman isnt mine. I have lived with rich women, they are a nightmare. Nevermind high value, low value. Do you like them and are they trustworthy? Nothing else matters.
Mmmm... so what did you mean when you said trustworthy? In a nutshell I believe that is what the video was about. But please, I truly wish to know what you meant by the term trustworthy.
I've listened to him a lot and never heard this. It's controversial, but I think it's true. So many woman are miserable for all the yesses we said. And younger women keep saying 'yes', then wondering what went wrong. Never heard it put this way.
I didn’t know how to explain this concept to my 17 year old daughter. I just sent it this video.
Fenomenal video!!!
Thank you Jordan!!!
Let us know what her reaction was!
*Its* reaction. @@DebatableInsights
Whether women like it or not
The easier you are sexually the less value you have to a male.
The more attractive she is the more males will want her, so her saying No shows self discipline shows she values herself, then if she says yes to you, she has raised you above all the other men that tried & got told NO.
The problem is that on the pursue of knowing people, mainly online through dating apps, is that, you have said no to many man, and when you finally find the one, and you say yes, that guy doesn't know he was the chosen one, and despise you anyways, thinking you say yes to everyone... It's a loss-loss game...
It depends what they are saying no to. It is not only intimacy abut interest. Nowadays, most of the no's are narcissistic. If it comes from a place of independence, "I don't need a man", then keep walkin' brother.
Those real high value women don’t have to be told anything. It becomes habit after getting hit on repeatedly.
I've never been afraid to say no. I've always attracted high quality men and no one ever made me feel bad about it. If someone was a jerk. I would feel that i dodged a bullet
1:21
The disparity in correlations should end all 'boss babe' arguments.
'Lower than zero'
Hahahahaha!!
Women who think they are above me, usually misjudge their status, believing looks is everything. One who sees my mind seldom thinks she’s superior. Looks fade, fast. Intellect doesn’t
Seems like you are saying the fruit at the top of the tree are the sweetest but hardest to pick. The low hanging fruit are easy to havest but it won't take long for a person to tire of eating the mass amount of easy peasy fruit to get no matter how sweet they may be. I believe that a man is looking for a woman that says no because he wants to make sure that down the line his woman will not be concord by another man who has more (of whatever) then he can offer her. So if I were able to tell women, especially young women, how to find Mr. Right I would say the best and most precious love of all is by loving yourself, know yourself, and have fun with all that you are. Even if nobody is there to see who you are. Make yourself giggle at life. Feed and nourish your body with all the good things from earth because you value yourself. Make cleansing your body a valued ritual. Believe in your imagination of true love while you walk alone knowing that the loneliness you feel is perfect and precious because there is only one for you and it is worth the wait. Stand down the animal instinct to concour somebody else. Acknowledge you have one shot at true love and if you miss it you will surely get what you settle for (and you do not want somebody else's left over trash). Life is ~beautifuf~ no matter if you walk it alone. So make sure through all the tough times to remind yourself, even through the tears loneliness may bring- you are beautiful because you are loved from deep within your soul. PS never stop in hell to ponder if somebody is coming to rescue you. Just keep on trucking and heartfully know the other part of your soul is out there trying to find you. All the gold in the world will never give your soul happiness. Only you can. So get up girl and love you!
I think JP should compare notes with Orion Taraban. I don’t think it is the woman saying No to a man that make her attractive to him. It’s her ability to say No to other men.
I think JP agrees with you.
My view for Jordan Peterson is that he is a full narcissist, so arrogant and empty soul, indeed, half the time doesn't make any sense.
@@rayc9899 Maybe. He is an accomplished academic who had a long career as a therapist. He grapples with difficult philosophical issues where making clear sense is not always available.
@@markaurelius61 I know many accomplished peoples who are the lowest of the lowest and they should know better how to treat humans. A degree doe not make a decent man, beware is the rule of life in 2024.
@@rayc9899I believe you are thinking with your other head little frustrated man. You go boy! But stick to your narrow small lane please.
It's true that men don't want a 304, but I also think Jordan Peterson is out of date.
With the #MeToo movement & "No Means No" I think there's a good chance a man will back off & not ask again - that's the sensible play, no guy wants to be thought of as a 'Creep' or a stalker & face a harassment charge. 👀
well, there's a difference between "no, go away, creep!" and "no, I don't want to, we'll do this on my terms".... different no's :)
@@DebatableInsights In some ways the 2nd one sounds even worse...
WoW! You sound pissed off at all men. Maybe you have been physically harmed? Or just so lacking in what love means that the #MeToo movement has made you a bully? Whatever your issues are you may want to seek a psychiatrist help before you get to old. Sincerely.
What if I don’t have so many offers I just Would rather be alone even if like the hottest man ever asked me to kiss him I will say no
If it seems like he doesn’t like me or if he seems like a really bad person even if he’s a billionaire
With all due respect, I must disagree. High status men are NOT enticed or differentially value women who say "NO".
Once a single male reaches the top 10% or better of men and knows his relative value, his "bargaining power" in relationships is unassailable.
The reason is there are far more women who want him and are willing to compete for his attention than there are men competing for socalled high value women by conservative estimates of 4 -5 to 1.
This paradigm is increasingly referenced as the Warren Buffett effect.
Legendary investor Mr. Buffett doesn't have to "compete" for deals because first, deals come to him. Second, potential sellers don't have many alternatives to doing a deal with a Warren Buffett.
I don't think JP was talking about Warren Buffett or the kind of 10% man you are speaking of. BTW who would want that box of 10% men you discussed anyway but a gold digger?? My goodness woman! What would you get out of this kind of man but his $$$? Is that all you are looking for? A man who wants to buy and sell you on his arm? Are you for sale? In my opinion you missed JP's point all together. I recommend you look up the definition of what a high value man is. And it is not the 10% box of men you discribed (nor for sure Warren Buffett!). My goodness what a response you gave. Frustrated much?
Interesting👍
Sadly, a man may miss out on a spectacular woman who was just overcome with excitement, joy and attraction and would have been the most loyal and wonderful wife to him.
If there were no sincere feelings and it was all about lust...
Then there's absolutely no difference between a lustful woman and a lustful man.
God doesn't make a distinction.
Where, in the Bible, does it say that the deadly sin of lust applies only to women?
I disagree that the ability to say 'no' is the most attractive thing about high-value women. I think that their ability to appear fearless' while they're implying 'yes' is THE most attractive thing a high-value woman can do.
You have obviously been watching those porn movies JP was talking about. I call those types of men "Toads from the Horney Clan".
Im 58 and THANK YOU THANK YOU!
Peterson among his peers is quite articulate but among the mass population he is remarkably inarticulate his constant use or academic and abstract terminology regardless of venue is amusing...
WoW! And you said all of that in one sentence too. BTW, I am one of the masses and I understand him. But reading your attemped intellectual response was amussing to me. Hahaha! Very amusing. Thanks for the laugh!
I had several girls who said No all the time. Boring and unsatifying as hell.
We don't want a woman that's been the town bicycle. Other than that we want a woman that can bring out our peaceful nature and thus calming us and bringing peace of mind. We want a woman we can HUG not just plain sex yes we like hugs as well and we probably need them more than women do. We want a woman we can share with whether it's a laugh, journey, adventures or even a tear doesn't matter we just want to be able to share and be understood. And we want a woman that's a true mother to our children.
Absolutely agree but the man has to be emotionally intelligent as well and hear us when something is bothering us and change their ways if it’s something bad and triggering.
A woman also shouldn't want a man that is often visits prostitutes, especially when she has a newborn child...just saying.
❤❤❤
Umiejętność przekazania przez kobietę " Nie " poprzez zachowanie behawioralne odnosi skutek w 74%
Werbalnie może się to odnieść do sporu pytań i bezsensownych Jeszcze raz pytań.
-A dlaczego nie?
- jesteś po przejściach ?
- wchodzi na grunt bardzo osobisty.
- Już jest mi niedobrze.
Tak nie przeczę miałam swojego czasu problem.
Określono mnie kiedyś po wyglądzie po Chociażby po zapachu urodzie rozmowy (i mój głos o dziwo)zachowaniu się (behawioralism) Zawsze uważałam i nadal uważam ,że Jestem subiektywnie mówiąc normalna.
Nigdy nie przyszło mi do głowy nie powiedziałabym ,że byłam obiektem ....
Popracowałem nieco nieco nad swoim zachowaniem zasad etc...
Czy się udaję ?
Zależy jak sie ubiorę 😅
Dres jest najlepszym kamuflażem😅
So, the ability to say "no" is one of the most attractive trait of a woman?
Yes, apparently that appears to be the case. Who knew?
@@DebatableInsights The world has moved on, saying no to a guy who you really find attractive is a dumb move...
@@thelimey351
If by 'moved on' you mean
degenerated even further,
then yes it has moved on a lot.
@@BWater-yq3jx Yes, I do, if a woman in the past at some time has already been rammed on the first date by Chad or Tyrone, which is almost always the case now, why on earth are you going to be waiting around for ages - a man would just look pathetic doing that...
@lillyfahey1921 Well assuming that's the case I would like to avoid that "Honor" with such a 304 & find a woman who does not value Chad or Tyrone - nobody should settle for their leftovers...
JP talking above the sequence of porn movies🤣🤣the most eloquent top of the stack explanation of what boundaries is, he is teach the easy girls😂
JP ‘Feminists have an unconscious wish for brutal male domination’. All you need to know about Peterson’s intelligence.
You must have skipped the part about how the top female corn fantasies all involve cold brutal domineering men or outright monsters. Why do you think 50 Shades of Grey was such a smash hit? Feminists 100% have a taste for brutal male domination. We see it all the time in real life as well as fiction. Women will never admit this of course but it’s completely true. Not all women want this type of man but a great many do.
Or lack thereof.
😂 you clearly have no clue.
@@dampnickers at least I ain’t no incel passport bro
@@dannysullivan3951 how is being a "passport bro" equated with being an incel? You sound, either young, or in need of expanding your education.
Somewhat reductionist. Among those who can and do say no, the better of these are ones who are economically successful. Sometimes because they are willing to contribute financially or if they choose to stop working they still come with a set of social emotional skills that are desired by very high value men. In other words beauty and class. Exhibit A is Amal Clooney.
Dear Beauty and Class, You are definitely a no. You might want to get your nose lowered about 30 degrees. Nobody wants to look at a face with a open double car garage stuck in the middle of their face.
He speaks the truth . I ask for respect in a relationship . And the partner will get respect back . If i get less than respect i just dont want to know . Womens pornography like any porn is just a fantasy .
I want reality. So yes i can say NO.
Everyone in the comments is too educated with too much life experience to believe JP blindly hahahahahah
Literally seek the kingdom of heaven and all things shall be added unto you. When you know God and live for him saying no isn’t even a challenge. You instantly disconnect from 98percent of the people
God doesn’t intend for you and therefore become more ‘desirable.’ The real matter is how to be desirable to the one that matters. Again seek the kingdom first and all
Shall be added
Unto you.
Men's ultimate power is ability to WALK AWAY after she says NO. Period.
Get over yourself! If you run after the first “no”, then you haven’t understood anything about women!
👋🏼 bye
Right. And there is always Rosie Palm and her 5 sisters waiting in the wind! Frustrated much? My bet on you is... yep! Dude you missed the whole point JP was making. Grow up. There is a whole world waiting for you when you do. But this is America. So stay in your room if you want to!
@@edenspurlin8279 I live in Europe. I dont take your opinion as fact. Europe is different. If she says no she is not worth of me and my time. Dont hate the player, hate the game.
@@omertaezWoW... Europe you don't say! I have only heard of the boys and girls in Europe that believe relationships are just like toilet wipes. And now- here you are! IDK, maybe you use a bidet? But this video is about Men and women in relationships. Not about boys and girls with their sex wipe relationships. Gosh, I hope you folks keep your facts over there. BTW, do you live in ALL 50 countries in Europe?
Such a subjective opinion. What about age, health, wealth, success, goals. If there is attractiveness, but full of negativity, as some models from my college, please not only attractiveness
People, Aren't you tired of speaking about women all the time? Fuck...it seems this is an endless story.
Looks, being very attractive, that what it is
Ur kidding right? Omgodess.
I try to listen to him, and I find it unbearable. Is there any joy in this man’s life?
I'm sure he feels he's doing the right thing as he has suffered a good many attacks from other people
(particularly in Canada) for expressing his knowledge.
If you appreciate careful intellectual rapport as I do, he's a joy to listen to.
His wife looks like the type who always says No! 😂
@@ellenmorse8559Hey kid. Grow up.
Lisa, Its cute how you think anybody would care about what you "think".