The brachistochrone curve in RCT2

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  • Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
  • The brachistochrone curve is the fastest way a ball can roll from point A to point B. How closely can we replicate that in the limited workspace that is RollerCoaster Tycoon 2?
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  • @tobymurs6495
    @tobymurs6495 5 лет назад +1514

    "RCTsauce" lol, legend !

    • @thomassynths
      @thomassynths 3 года назад +3

      "And as always, thanks for watching."
      A perfect chameleon.

  • @dandominare
    @dandominare 2 года назад +115

    I'm surprised how good the physics is in what is now a 20 year old game.

    • @pikachuchujelly7628
      @pikachuchujelly7628 9 месяцев назад +6

      Chris Sawyer is an absolute programming legend!

    • @ohno5559
      @ohno5559 5 месяцев назад

      It helps that the physics is like 300+ years old

    • @ExtraLargeGarfield
      @ExtraLargeGarfield 27 дней назад

      wonder what was it like before they invented gravity, did ppl just fly everywhere or what

  • @ArtofEngineering
    @ArtofEngineering 5 лет назад +713

    Teaching physics by crashing roller coasters in Roller Coaster Tycoon... I approve!

    • @Ztingjammer
      @Ztingjammer 4 года назад +1

    • @JavaCake
      @JavaCake 4 года назад

      Art of Engineering I loved your Tower of Terror Video!

    • @BrumBrum2222
      @BrumBrum2222 4 года назад +1

      Amateur, he forgot to put the people on the Coasters!

    • @James-eg3fr
      @James-eg3fr 2 года назад

      BY AN ENGLISH SPEAKING DUTCH GUY!

  • @TheOfficialCzex
    @TheOfficialCzex 5 лет назад +1297

    You really should tweet this at Michael. He would love this!

    • @F3arRa1n
      @F3arRa1n 5 лет назад +21

      Yes !!!

    • @LilHaseProductions
      @LilHaseProductions 4 года назад +8

      who the fuck is Michael

    • @theoneforce5885
      @theoneforce5885 4 года назад +60

      @@LilHaseProductions Michael Jackson

    • @AdrianLassie
      @AdrianLassie 4 года назад +40

      @@LilHaseProductions Hey, Vsauce. Michael here.

    • @weeksweeks9552
      @weeksweeks9552 4 года назад +6

      DOn't really consider michaelsauce as a youtuber nowadays.

  • @5MadMovieMakers
    @5MadMovieMakers 5 лет назад +881

    Physics Lesson: The Ride looks too intense for me

    • @ts4gv
      @ts4gv 5 лет назад +5

      5MadMovieMakers Heeeeeyyyyyy it's 5MMM everybody! How yall doin

    • @wkrisz
      @wkrisz 5 лет назад +2

      Wow you are here?
      I saw your thomas trickshot vide lol

    • @KiemPlant
      @KiemPlant 4 года назад +1

      I was already wondering why this video was in my recommendations. But I watched your video yesterday and as you commented on here youtube probably recommended it to me.

    • @nitrokiller9959
      @nitrokiller9959 4 года назад +1

      5MadMovieMakers soooo true i would build these siiick coasters as an 8 year old and then no one would ride it!

    • @lovelydolltime8006
      @lovelydolltime8006 4 года назад

      I'm pretty sure the only reason people play this is to build death parks.

  • @CaveyMoth
    @CaveyMoth 5 лет назад +394

    1:49 "Let's put these rides in test mode and see which one crashes first and thus wins." RCT logic...

    • @replicaacliper
      @replicaacliper 5 лет назад +1

      Nice PFP

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 5 лет назад +2

      @@replicaacliper pardon my lack of social networking lingo, but what's PFP?

    • @replicaacliper
      @replicaacliper 5 лет назад +1

      @@nthgth profile picture

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 лет назад

      @@replicaacliper Do ya like Windows96?

    • @nthgth
      @nthgth 5 лет назад

      @@replicaacliper wow, how did I ever not know that... Thanks bud

  • @Beriorn
    @Beriorn 5 лет назад +673

    **rollercoaster cart crashes**
    "I didn't really die."

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 лет назад +6

      'Tis just a flesh wound.

    • @--46200
      @--46200 5 лет назад +13

      Or did I?

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 лет назад +6

      @@--46200 [Contemplative music starts]

    • @Lance3015
      @Lance3015 4 года назад +4

      @@--46200 *vausce music starts playing*

    • @c.i.n.b4710
      @c.i.n.b4710 3 года назад +1

      💥🎢

  • @an_annoying_cat
    @an_annoying_cat 5 лет назад +329

    Nice. Vsauce just returned, so this is extremely fitting.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 лет назад +7

      And Mind Field is free now, too!

    • @MarcelVos
      @MarcelVos  5 лет назад +40

      I actually started writing this video a day or so before he returned, so it was entirely a coincidence!

    • @janzacharias3680
      @janzacharias3680 5 лет назад +1

      Yooo i didnt know that yet, thank you!!

  • @CaveyMoth
    @CaveyMoth 5 лет назад +474

    Hey, RCT2. Marcel Vos here.
    [Actually starts the video]
    DID HE REALLY.............

    • @StefanVeenstra
      @StefanVeenstra 5 лет назад +32

      RCTsauce

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 лет назад +1

      @@StefanVeenstra I didn't expect the sos

    • @toastymaid8905
      @toastymaid8905 5 лет назад +5

      The only thing missing is the Vsauce song

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 5 лет назад +10

      @@toastymaid8905 ...Or is it?

    • @oblique-.-
      @oblique-.- 4 года назад +2

      Hey, nice pfp. I got that album on vinyl :P

  • @lLostGems
    @lLostGems 5 лет назад +157

    this is the type of channel 10 years ago we couldn't imagine existing being a genre

  • @Marczking
    @Marczking 5 лет назад +61

    Congrats to 25K! Very well deserved, you've been putting out videos a lot and always high quality :D
    Keep it going ;D

  • @aleccooks
    @aleccooks 4 года назад +34

    Me, has physics homework in regards of the brachistochrone curve
    *Watches this video*
    Me in class the same week *explains why the light blue rollercoaster that i drew on the board is faster than the red and black coaster.

  • @mightymediocre3352
    @mightymediocre3352 5 лет назад +35

    The most interesting thing is actually that stuff like this might fix errors in the game like those with the steep pieces generating too much speed.

  • @michaelmutranowski123
    @michaelmutranowski123 4 года назад +9

    Where has this been all my life. I still remember when my brother built a custom bobsled coaster for the first time and the train flew off the track when it hit the first incline after the drop. It was at this point that we never messed with bobsled coasters ever again and we started actually testing roller coasters before opening them. My greatest moment in RCT2 was when I discovered how to build custom racing coasters; my brothers were so jealous :)

  • @nthgth
    @nthgth 5 лет назад +15

    You are so awesome man! Seriously, IMHO you're the best kind of nerd, and amazingly kind to go to all the trouble to share all of your findings with us, in such an understandable way, even with some humor put in.
    But wait, what happened to "I'll see you in the next video"??

  • @DLBBALL
    @DLBBALL 5 лет назад +155

    Everybody’s talking about the intro, so is no one gonna talk about the outro? Lol

    • @daskaninchen5416
      @daskaninchen5416 5 лет назад

      Dude Lmao yes, you are

    • @ExOAte
      @ExOAte 5 лет назад +5

      "And I'll see you ................................................................................. in the next video"

    • @tonispiip8054
      @tonispiip8054 5 лет назад +4

      What's with the outro? It sounds like his usual.

    • @RH11THM
      @RH11THM 5 лет назад +14

      @@tonispiip8054 "...and as always, thanks for watching" is how Vsauce videos end 👍

    • @Drew_42
      @Drew_42 5 лет назад +3

      Hey, Vsauce! Did you know that the amount of people who watch a RUclips video to the end, is affected by Zipf's Law?

  • @Nosliw87
    @Nosliw87 5 лет назад +16

    for some reason, using roller coasters actually makes it easier to understand (for me)

  • @AaronWeight
    @AaronWeight 5 лет назад +3

    LOVE the sound of multiple coasters travelling together :)

  • @rasput1n6
    @rasput1n6 5 лет назад +2

    My head has just exploded, because i watched that brachistochrone curve video literally yesterday after years. And now you upload something about it in rct2? Amazing!! What are the odds xD

  • @Funnymoney101
    @Funnymoney101 5 лет назад +132

    I wonder how this would go in a more precise game like planet coaster.

    • @billkeithchannel
      @billkeithchannel 5 лет назад +6

      Yeah, I would love to see someone make a video doing these same tests with the same style of coaster car in PlanCo.

    • @johndalenino
      @johndalenino 4 года назад +4

      Would like to see it too but according to my gameplay experience, the physics in PlanCo feel like it changes for every coaster/track ride. One of my pet peeve example is the log flume with slight downward angle looks like it's moving along a flat track. That's just my observation though :P

    • @JohnDoe-zq1ho
      @JohnDoe-zq1ho 4 года назад +2

      Or ideally, NoLimits.

    • @JeremyBogie
      @JeremyBogie Год назад

      I love the nod to Vsauce with the outro! I don’t see another comment mentioning it.

  • @tristanc6967
    @tristanc6967 4 года назад +1

    Exceptional quality. Good description without going into the weeds. Fascinating concept. Keep up the good work!

  • @linkbro4374
    @linkbro4374 5 лет назад +42

    "hey Vsauce, Micheal here. where is the rest of the track?"

  • @Choonzord
    @Choonzord 4 года назад +2

    bruh you are so fucking creative I cannot believe someone has been consistently making interesting content JUST AROUND RCT for as long as you have. Kudos man.

  • @Ziseth
    @Ziseth 4 года назад +19

    4:18 the top of the drop point has to be identical, the vertical drop starts alot slower because of the bigger curve, than the steep slope. Thus essentially make the vertical part of the drop quite a bit shorter than the steep drop. I do believe it would get to 125 mp/h or more if it started steep right away like the yellow coaster, then into vertical sooner.

    • @Panzermeister36
      @Panzermeister36 2 года назад +2

      It's well known that the steep slope is faster than vertical.

  • @Lysimachus
    @Lysimachus 5 лет назад +89

    The automated subtitles thought you were actually speaking Dutch this time.

  • @liljdub08
    @liljdub08 4 года назад +1

    I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY! Not specifically this video but this type curve/concept and I had no idea what it would be called. Thanks!

  • @citroenboter
    @citroenboter 5 лет назад +2

    Holy cow Marcel I'll definitely join your stream somewhere in the afternoon. 12 hours? Madness. You absolute madman haha

  • @macksii
    @macksii 5 лет назад +1

    I've never watched your channel or a rollercoaster tycoon video before but i'm glad this was in my recommended

  • @Ruuku1
    @Ruuku1 5 лет назад +1

    this guy...... blows my mind every video

  • @ddrz09
    @ddrz09 5 лет назад +133

    This sounds like a PhD dissertation.

  • @TKSpidey
    @TKSpidey 5 лет назад +3

    This is best crossover I've ever seen :D

  • @TwistedThrill44
    @TwistedThrill44 5 лет назад

    Congrats on the 25k man, certainly deserve it! Absolutely love watching your videos and it's gotten me back into playing RCT2, which I haven't done since I was about 5

  • @eier3252
    @eier3252 5 лет назад +1

    I just wanna say thank you for inspiring me to pick up this awesome game again

  • @shinydavidhowell
    @shinydavidhowell 5 лет назад +4

    I am now wanting to play with steep drop/shallow rise track with that knowledge that steep pieces are "OP" hahaha. Wow.

  • @JPOGers
    @JPOGers 5 лет назад +1

    Glad to see people still playing this game

  • @TheLuchaBear
    @TheLuchaBear 5 лет назад

    Congratulations on the 25.000 subscribers, Marcel. Keep up the great work and the next 25.000 are already on the way!

  • @OfficialNymos
    @OfficialNymos 4 года назад

    Couldn't leave this video without commenting. Very informative and well-explained. Subscribed.

  • @JLock_17
    @JLock_17 3 года назад +1

    "Vsauce: Marcel here."
    Michael: "wat."

  • @Xaac1609
    @Xaac1609 7 месяцев назад +3

    4:23 ThAt Is BeCaUsE oF tHe BrAcHiStOcHrOnE!!!!!!

  • @robertstegmann9260
    @robertstegmann9260 5 лет назад +29

    HEY RCTSAUCE MARCEL HERE

  • @Zhinarkos
    @Zhinarkos 4 года назад +1

    RUclips, what is this recommendation? It's fascinating but damn you. And damn you Marcel Vos. Now I have to start playing RCT again.

  • @alkankondo89
    @alkankondo89 5 лет назад

    Clever idea for an experiment! As a math guy who likes roller coasters, I was doubly intrigued!!

  • @lewiszim
    @lewiszim 5 лет назад +1

    This is the best video you've ever made.

  • @louisrossmanamanonamission9775
    @louisrossmanamanonamission9775 4 года назад

    No clue what amsterdam time is but i can remember early mornings waking up to play this terrific game and the facet you are still on here producing content is proof of concept.

  • @Techtastisch
    @Techtastisch 5 лет назад +4

    Nice

  • @DavidXNewton
    @DavidXNewton 5 лет назад

    I love the sheer range of stuff you experiment with in this game :)

  • @BigStrap
    @BigStrap 5 лет назад +7

    No way, I just watched the brachistochrone video today! What are the odds.

    • @woaq4486
      @woaq4486 4 года назад

      The RUclips suggestion algorithm says the odds are pretty high

  • @michaelmallia6462
    @michaelmallia6462 5 лет назад +2

    On guessing the black track would be the fastest:
    "No fair! You changed the outcome by measuring it!"

  • @trikstari7687
    @trikstari7687 4 года назад

    So glad he left in the crash animations.
    So satisfying.

  • @majorlycunningham5439
    @majorlycunningham5439 4 года назад +4

    At first, I almost thought you were Finnish because I watch a another Finnish RUclipsr that has a similar accent lol

  • @TheRealLink
    @TheRealLink 4 года назад

    Interesting PoV and explanation of things!

  • @catlinaplays8626
    @catlinaplays8626 3 года назад

    25k subscriber, and you've tripled that a year later. Bravo!!!

  • @KL53986
    @KL53986 2 года назад +1

    When Steep Tracks are somehow better than 90° tracks that dont involve parasitic friction and uses the full gravity itself.
    Steep tracks are really interesting in sense you both gain speed and lose speed unusually faster

  • @boardrfolif3
    @boardrfolif3 5 лет назад +9

    MESSAGE TO ALL SUBSCRIBERS: Let's all 25k tune in tomorrow and take down Ninja for the #1 streamer spot.

  • @Seeyan86
    @Seeyan86 4 года назад +3

    why did RUclips recommend me this is beyond me, but then I kept watching till the end

  • @BigDickMcFlick
    @BigDickMcFlick 4 года назад

    I like watching your videos and i don't even play this game. I just really enjoy how well you explain things in detail.
    :)

  • @ThunderBlastvideo
    @ThunderBlastvideo 4 года назад

    This is why using this curve in coasters results in the best excitement rating when going off a big drop, at least according to planet coaster's logic of excitement being proportional to speed

  • @pigtailsboy
    @pigtailsboy 3 года назад +1

    Pleased I guessed light blue. That vert against steep has the dysfunction of having to convert it's momentum to a different direction and likely is losing much more to friction.

  • @DutchDeLorean
    @DutchDeLorean 5 лет назад +7

    I always had a feeling that the vertical drop was slower than it should be.

  • @perfectmilk7807
    @perfectmilk7807 4 года назад

    RCT2 was my childhood. Love this game and interesting video. :)

  • @jonnowood8382
    @jonnowood8382 2 года назад

    “And as always, thanks for watching”. Nice sign off shoutout to VSauce there

  • @SpriteBleedin
    @SpriteBleedin 4 года назад

    I fucking love you new favourite youtuber hands down

  • @Frosty-oj6hw
    @Frosty-oj6hw 3 года назад

    I love these videos, great job.

  • @wazzpqazzza
    @wazzpqazzza 4 года назад

    Turned on subtitles
    became fluent in Dutch.
    Thanks Marcel!

  • @simonhartl460
    @simonhartl460 5 лет назад

    We need more of such things. What a great idea

  • @jeffreyd.5558
    @jeffreyd.5558 4 года назад +1

    Chris did all of this by himself, no? He killed it!

  • @rupang886
    @rupang886 4 года назад +4

    He sounds like a Mathematics Professor/lecturer trying to CYA himself playing Rollercoaster tycoon in his university office.

  • @CAR_NL
    @CAR_NL 5 лет назад

    It's amazing how Marcel Vos, aka Kees van der Spek, is playing so much RCT, next to his show undercover in the outside country and puts all this videos online. Tenk joe ferrie muts Kees!

  • @supernenechi
    @supernenechi 5 лет назад

    You can't be anything else but Dutch, the accent gives it away perfectly

  • @jessevandendoren
    @jessevandendoren 5 лет назад

    Congrats on the 25k subs! And 12 hour livestream on my birthday? Great present from you to me Marcel! (jk I'll be celebrating by sitting in a cirle and eating pieces of cheese with little flags on top of them)

  • @The24thWight
    @The24thWight 4 года назад

    Do I play this game?
    No.
    Am I fascinated by these videos.
    HELL YEAH!

  • @tomalator
    @tomalator 8 месяцев назад

    You can apply snell's law to find the ideal curve with the limited track pieces you have.
    The Bachistichrone curve is simply snell's law applied infinitely many times
    The bachistichrone durbe dipping below the end elevation is only necessary if you wanted to do the variation where a ball dropped from any height will oscillate with the same period no matter the starting point

  • @joshuamatic345
    @joshuamatic345 4 года назад

    I love this video. Because it has the most explotions. Therefore, it is the best video on the internet.

  • @Enkaptaton
    @Enkaptaton 5 лет назад

    "Hey RCT soure" that made me subscribe to your channel. I discovered your videos and then reinstalled RCT2 after years

  • @EVPointMaster
    @EVPointMaster 4 года назад +5

    Alternate video title: "Killing dozens of park goers to make the ride as fast as possible"

    • @SkyNinja759
      @SkyNinja759 4 года назад

      Sounds like you're average observation tower ride with powered launch.

  • @thedeliverus
    @thedeliverus 5 лет назад

    Youre the best, Marcel! Great stuff as always :)

  • @nerdlingerrichardson9354
    @nerdlingerrichardson9354 5 лет назад

    Never seen such commitment and abuse to a video game before. Well done

  • @paulb4334
    @paulb4334 4 года назад

    This reminded me so much of Rudi Carrell. The sound of childhood German TV shows.

  • @Stardust_Wyvern
    @Stardust_Wyvern 5 лет назад

    Wasn't expecting that intro, but great video on this topic.

  • @khobys
    @khobys 4 года назад

    my worlds are colliding HAHA i just watched the vsauce video yesterday. this is amazing

  • @gowzahr
    @gowzahr Год назад

    If Marcel remaid this video now, all those trains would be full of people.

  • @TheSuperCommentGuy
    @TheSuperCommentGuy 5 лет назад +2

    Weird, I just rewatched Vsauce's video on that like two days ago. Nice timing.

  • @sascha495
    @sascha495 Год назад +1

    This video is really good value
    ...
    I want to go home

  • @Shon304
    @Shon304 2 года назад

    3:50 expanding why the curve accelerates: inside the curve, the object would always want to go straight, but the forces applied from the surface (called Normal) and Friction is keeping him glued towards its trajectory. Neuton 2nd Law says the Force applied on an object within its movement direction equals to the mass times acceleration. F=m*a. By that we can understand that some amout of the forces (normal and friction) are applied towards the path, increasing the acceleration (since mass is constant). If you would like to be more accurate, in circual trajectory the Forces towards the center of the spin equals the mass times radial acceleration. Fr=m*ar

  • @bloodypommelstudios7144
    @bloodypommelstudios7144 4 года назад +1

    If there was no friction any steepness slope reach the same top speed since all the potential energy would be converted to kinetic energy. It's not so much that the steeper slope gets the coaster reaching a higher top speed (though this is true with friction), it's that it gets closer to it's top speed earlier and thus has a higher average speed.

  • @RespectedSwams
    @RespectedSwams 5 лет назад

    This guy is the legend we all waited for!

  • @mbberry135
    @mbberry135 4 года назад

    YOU MONSTER YOU KILLED THEM ALL!
    ROTFLOL!

  • @BrandonBeanland
    @BrandonBeanland 5 лет назад +1

    good intro

  • @andreaskorner2339
    @andreaskorner2339 3 года назад

    Putting science back into RCT2

  • @bowleysmokes3406
    @bowleysmokes3406 4 года назад +4

    You should totally try this in planet coaster, it allows for very fluid coaster design

  • @arndbrack2339
    @arndbrack2339 4 года назад +1

    the perfect way to learn something about the laws of physics: inculde a rollercoaster and an explosion!

  • @Ztingjammer
    @Ztingjammer 4 года назад

    Am a fan of both Vsauce and this lovely game, so I clicked on the video asap. Great video❣

  • @VZPZ
    @VZPZ 5 лет назад +1

    very cool

  • @AlexCFaulkner
    @AlexCFaulkner 4 года назад

    really enjoyed this 👍

  • @Cherb123456
    @Cherb123456 5 лет назад

    Cool video, great Idea, thank you!

  • @knivesron
    @knivesron 3 года назад

    im very suprised that theres still a cult following for this game. i wish they could make a new one thats good.
    like your video idea and how you called out vsauce, great channel.
    cool vid too, it was interesting to watch

  • @ninstagram
    @ninstagram 4 года назад

    - What's yours RUclips taste?
    - It's complicated

  • @haramaschabrasir8662
    @haramaschabrasir8662 4 года назад

    6 Months ago he was celebrating 25k subs... Here we go at 50k.

  • @SebHaarfagre
    @SebHaarfagre 4 года назад

    The in-game acceleration and deceleration is also calculated at intervals, which may bug up results and grant unrealistic behaviour (even relative to the code, ignoring this aforementioned fact).
    (In other words, it's not a "smooth" ride, and slope changes can be just before or just after a new speed is "updated", and the larger actual interval (don't know the value) the larger margin of error, times the amount of times a slope change is done, or more precisely times a slope change is done between two speed updates.

  • @NathanMan
    @NathanMan 4 года назад

    I love roller-coaster tycoon but damn you must have alot free time to figure that out