Preserving Gar Skin
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- Опубликовано: 30 мар 2017
- Hey guys, here is how I dry and preserve gar hides for use. This one will be going to a knife maker for sheath material. Check him out if you are interested in one. Thanks for watching, and God bless............J
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I know that this video is 4 years+ old, but , I enjoyed it , learned from it, and appreciate your making it !!! Just a wee bit of historical facts to toss out to you. In the early pioneer days, the skins from alligator Gars were used to cover the wooden frames of animal-drawn plows. The skin and scales were so tough that they did last quite a long time. The different tribes of Native Indians also used the skins to cover their shields and to make breastplates. The use of natural products has almost been lost due to the advancement of mass manufacturing processes and machinery. I applaud your work in educating the interested public in an old and almost forgotten art !!! Props, Son !!!
Back when I still dried snake hides I used to make Natron for salting. It's just baking soda and salt mixed in even amounts into simmering water then dried. Best of both worlds. Really pulls the moisture out and kills odor. Can also put it back into hot water and drain off to clean it for re-use.
Very nice! Thanks for the shout out Brother!
Well. My son caught one so I’m here and thanks a million..you passed a well needed skill down.
I just bought one of the Gar sheaths from Wallace Knifeworks. I will enjoy it greatly. Now I have something from my two favorite youtubers.
I just ❤ everything you and the Volfies do. THE REAL DEAL👍👍👍👍 The Dudes and Dudette are awesome!
your chickens look so healthy and contented x
I really appreciate your videos, it reminds me so much of my childhood with my father and his cousins, hunt, fish, trapping, tapping maple trees...keep up the great work. Btw, my father was one heck of a taxidermist.
Awesome! Caught my first gar the other day, and now I am fascinated by them. Great video.
Turned out great. Can't wait to see what Ricky makes out of it. Thanks for sharing. Take care.... love y'all.
I always learn something new when I watch your videos. Very nice, thanks for sharing.
John..
Your more than a regular Ol Guy.
Your special and I think of you everyday when I look at the clock you made.
Great job, fleshing fish skin for a beautiful knife sheath! You ready do great at everything that can help the family!
I have tanned a few gar skins myself,I like the versatility of the material.. Great job!
That is cool. I can't wait to see him make some knife sheaths with it.
Sir you need your own television show because your more entertaining and informative than most people on television now.
Holy moly that's strong even raw, the sound it makes while you're scraping it makes me think of tough plastic. What a fish!
Nice vid man! Exactly what I was looking for. And thanks for the links for Wallace knifeworks!
I'm excited to see the fished product. nice video as always
I really enjoy your videos please keep them coming.
Chickens are gonna love the scrapings.
That’s a good idea. Gar skin sheath. Definitely original.
I just luv you ! Luv to learn and you are a very good teacher.
When this mean lady had her friend shoot my Coon Cat which never did anything to her with a bee bee gun I didn't know it at first. When I found out I went to the Vet they said they couldn't do anything but kill her.
I brought her home & it really was a job to hold her down but twice a day I would slowly pour a big glass of hide. peroxide on the wound, the Vet had taken the skin off abit at the wound site & did that for 4 days.
I kept her on the bed with food & water & used a garbage bag & put alittle kitty litter on it & stayed with her & prayed big time.
Our dear Lord answered my prayers and my cat got better and lived ! Her name was Sweetsca and she would bring me live birds, I praised her but let the birds back out of the house & she learned not to do that. One one day she herded down the street a goose ! People were racking their lawns & just watched this.
I really praised her but send we have to bring it back to it's home. My cat seemed to understand & we brought it to the lake & let it go.
I told the Vet folks what I did & I just hope they used that info. But my sweet cat who had come to me as a stray lived a long happy life. Both the lady & her friend died of cancer about 6 months after they'd shot my cat. KARMA.
Down in Texas, especially around the Trinity River basing, I've seen Gar come out of that River that were bigger than a Buick! Truly prehistoric looking creatures that some how made it through extension!. I never thought about tanning Gar skin, now that I see it, I want to try it out, I make traditional self bows, and I back some of my bows with Snakeskin, mostly diamondback Rattlers, because they are more plentiful in our region, but I also have used Copperhead skins to back my bows, Copperhead backing is the most sought after, and the prettiest, but its very difficult to find a copperhead that's long enough to cover one limb of a bow. They don't get to big, and I've been known to stop traffic to rescue a nice snakeskin that was a bit slower than the 18 wheeler that took him out! I don't kill snakes to collect the skins, don't feel right about doing that, but its good to have a buddy that does the yearly Rattlesnake Round up, down in the Texas Hill country, I get some monsters from him!. Anyway something I always wanted was a Sturgeon skin to back a bow, I've seen it done and its absolutely beautiful! But we don't get to many Sturgeon down this way, unlike our northern friends, Now that I can't get a good size Gar skin, because I left the great state of Texas and moved to Savannah Ga. They don't have the monster Hat like we do back in Tx, so who wants to swap some dried Fish skins for some dried Snakeskins? I've got to try a fish skin backed bow! Does anyone know where you could purchase fish skins like Sturgeon, gar etc?
I've never caught one before, they're not around my parts. Definitely on my bucket list & when I do catch one I think I'll have to try your method of preserving the skin. Very very interesting video. Thanks & Take Care: Shawn
Happy to see ya !!!
I tan my snake skins in a solution made of 1 part rubbing alcohol and 1 part glycerin. Soaking it for a total of 7 days in a cool dark place, stirring once a day. Alcohol kills any bacteria and glycerin is a skin protectant used in most lotions. My snake skins turn out rubbery and very plyable. I still have the first one I tanned about 8 yrs ago and it's still just as rubbery as it was when I first tanned it. I wonder if it would work the same way with fish skin
That's a beautiful skin, might put it on the wall if I had a skin like that, lol. look forward to seeing those knife scabbards. will check out Wallace Knifeworks channel in the meantime, thanks.
God bless regular old duds. I'm fleshing out and tanning another batch of goat hides, but I never thought you could tan fish skin. Thx for the info.
Awesome clip. need some gar fishing clips !!
lovee watching you do your thing john!!! We dont have scary looking fish and man eating monsters (gaters) in our fresh waters creeks and lakes in New Zealand so its interesting to see what you guys eat!! definitely want to try them though... thansk for your cool videos...
Beautiful chickens.
They love the scrapings.
Gar guts will kill them, though.
You have pheasants nearby, too!
thx for answering my question on scaling the fish first John.
Enjoyed watching this video! Will subscribed!
those are gonna make for some pretty unique sheathes
im young and these videos are very informative and intresting been watching ur vids for a while and love them!
But i never comment lel but nice work!
i preserved 2 muskie heads for my son, buried them in a bucket of salt, man it was nasty, every couple days or so i had to change the salt, but eventually they dried out an i mounted them to a board, they came out pretty good. but this gar skin, wow, very cool stuff!
SunsetBay Bonnie good deal ide love to see that done good story thanks. Have. Good week god bless
I've been trying to find clothes made out of this. I just like the the idea of it.
I knew you were legit when you when said “….I’m just a regular old dude and this is how I do it”. If we were neighbors we’d get along great
Awesome video! Thanks
John, you make the nastiest jobs look like fun, lol.
Nice work for a regular dude.
This turned out really great Jon, I think Id make a machete sheath out of it. It would be one of a kind.
Looks tough. It will be great to see what Ricky does with it.
That was so cool. Thank you
That is pretty cool. I will check out his channel to see what he makes from it.
Awesome video you still on here? Had a question or two about this. Thanks this helps alot.
Pretty cool
That looks easy enough. Animal skins are too much work for us lazy guys, but I could do a gar skin. Thanks for the vid.
Love you Jnull
Awesome thanks, I was looking for this kinda thing. I'm planning on backing some wood bows with gar skin.
Did this work out well for you? I plan on doing a similar project
@@cornwallets5385 ya know i never got the chance, gar in my area were too overfished so they were way too small. but I still have plans to do this one day.
Here in southeast MO were absolutely flooded with spotted gar during the summers. Looking forward to giving it a shot
great job!
I like watching your videos some time I wish I did not live in the city
Thank you
ive heard you stste that your not an expert on numorious ocassions but i think ive found something that you are an expert in its called B.S because you.ve kept my attention for the last couple of years lol
Always love ya vids man keep em coming. Oh yea wheres the gar nuggets lol I will bring the grease lol
When you put your hands up I got tickled thinking about Ricky Bobby. "I don't know what to do with my hands!" Lol, I hadn't thought about that in a while.
That gar is some tough stuff. I tan salmon skin and it comes out very durable and strong enough for clothing and wallets. Instead of borax, I used egg yolks.
You did a REALLY Good job of skinning that fish. There's barely any flesh left for you to remove. I think that that's especially impressive considering how flippin' hard that Gar-skin is! Hypothetically do you think that the hide is strong enough to make into boots, the same way they do with Snakeskin or Alligator? I have no experience with this kind of thing so I apologise if it's a daft question. Thank you.
Yes, it’s strong enough to make just about anything however I’d recommend you add a thin layer of leather behind it.
@@redemption7449 lool 5 years too late man.
Nice looking Skin
Ive used a product called Instant Tan.I think I ordered it from the cabelas catalog.I tanned a few shark skins with it
Wish you would come back and make RUclips videos You were my favorite channel. I'm working on tanning a rattlesnake. Susie
I got one in borax now. Having trouble hooking anything sizeable lol. I found that my drop rig with braided line works because they get tangled in it. If you don't mind loosing a few inches of line per catch lol.
what do you use the gar skin for?? super interesting. I'm living all your homestead videos.
cool
I just finished skinning a gar for our buddy Rick Wallace. I didn't have any Borax so I used salt to start the drying process after I stapled it to a board, I was able to scrap the biggest part of the meat off the skin but when finished I could still see very small hair like pieces of white membrane on the skin. will this come off after the skin has dried out?
very nice video, i'll do the same thing with skin from farmed fish we have.
Would the skin preserve (for lets say as wall decoration) with only the borax treatment?
Man this video was funny. Great job brother. I’m 5 years late but hope you’re doing well!
love the videos man
Do you think that baking soda might do the same as the borax? Or at least close to it? Also, how would you go about collecting and drying the scales? I ask about the scales because I have seen them dried and used as arrow heads before.
I have never heard of using Gar for anything but bait. But I will go check him out. I bet them cats (if you have any) love that old fish meat. If not I would say you feed it to them chickens like the catfish guts and heads right?
totally kick ASS! can this be done with pike/muskee or lake trout?
Wish you would come back
Cant you use the old glycerin and alcohol method to do this?
And is the G&A method good for catfish skin as well?
I catch gar and eat them too. I am very interested in what you do with the skin or armor once it has cured.
So cool, cant wait to see the finish product.
DANG BROTHER! JUST THE INFORMATION I WAS LOOKING FOR MAN. HEY, DO YOU KNOW IF CARP SKIN/SCALES CAN BE TANNED? IM INTERESTED IN MAKING STUFF WITH GAR AND CARP SKINS.
Is the hide descaled before this? I assume it isn’t, as the staples must be placed between the places where the scales would be.
Very cool, we don't get gar very big way up in North Dakota, but we do have Northern Pike. I bark tanned one and it turn out very good. i used lye water leached from hard wood ashes, to remove any fats and oils from the skin, it also helped loosen the scales. You need to remove all the oils in order for the bark tea to penetrate. Not sure what the lye water would do to that gar armor.
I bet a pressure washer would work perfect for getting the flesh off the hide.
Which side is up ? And what side do you put the borax?
I'm just a regular Dude! He kills me lol!
Clean off the borax, (wipes eyes), lol. Love the video
Windex is a must for getting rid of fish smell from gar to your hands and clothes
Thaaaaank You!!! 🤣
love gar and they taste great there hide is easy to do see my video best ways to catch gar for more
Thank you! I am about to use your methods and dry this 4’ Alligator Gar I caught! Any tips of how to clean the head?! 🤣
i actually found it easier to cut the head off and use my hands to separate the meat from the skin and it peeled off very nicely. i only had to take a knife to the back 1/4 of the gar to get the remaining flesh off
I was thinking of trying to create a new line of snake boots. Not sure what to name it, but I know what unique material I want for it. Alligator Gar skin. Would this method work for making boot leather?
Gator gar skin, scales in particular, are seemingly an amazing snake boot material. No snake on Earth could bite through that.
nice beard 👍 also you seem like a SUPER nice person id love to be friends with you!
Y'all use Natrum with your skin's?
Nice man! What you gonna do with it? Im making some pants and a backpack.
Thanks for the info! I am interested in getting some gar skins for some crafts and costuming uses, would you be able/willing to sell me some? I live in the PNW where we don't have gar.
John what going on with porkchop?
Bacon bites?
What should I do? I put borax on it before it dried. Should I rinse it off and let dry, then use the borax?
borax is also flux for forge welding
Please make a homestead update
John, I'm not sure but isn't Borax a form of acid? I thought the box had a warning to keep out of the reach of children. I was under the impression that borax can cause skin burns due to the acid in it. I'm not sure that why Im asking? Thank you and God Bless.
Brian Leonard Borax Has very few ingredients in it, It has sulfonic acid, and Caustic acid which makes what they call in the soap industry a base. One has a high PH level and one has a low PH level. They mix them which is called naturalization. To a 7% Ph level, just as long as the PH is correct no burning effect from the acid. Other ingredients Nonionic, Sodium carbonate, and sulfate. These ingredients are used to take the oils out of clothes, which can dry skin, but no burning effect.
How many gar skins to stop 50 cal bullet?
I don't mean to ask a dumb question or one you have answered so let me ask it different, are there other uses for the skin other than a sheath.
how much did that flesh scraper cost...