i'm so angry you didn't include my favorite analog horror series, "high contrast face mangled by photoshop liquify tool with youtube vhs filter on top"
i really love this video, ive been rly into ARGS since 2015 or so, back when everymanhybrid was still going and the trajectory the genre is going in is so...disheartening. you perfectly put into words why! me and my partner have been referring to it as the tiktokification of online horror, or the backroomsification lol. it feels like it was made in a lab to be the next big scary thing : (
Two Analog Horrors I would recommend are The Tangi Virus and They Lie Above. Both are subtle enough with scares while telling a great story. I'd recommend them.
THANK YOU for talking about how bad the Mandela Catalogue is. i never once got the hype for it. i tend to call it “Baby’s First Analog Horror” because that’s basically what it is. it’s kind of amateur
MC definitely has. It’s just rlly different. The creator said he wants to move away from traditional analogue horror tropes and he’s a lot more about existentialism than frightening imagery
amazing video! i appreciate your perspective and i will totally check out some of the series that you mentioned that i haven’t yet watched. so so good!
ok i only got into horror very recently (im a *huge* scaredy cat, and on that note i thank you kindly for not putting any unannounced jumpscares in here) but i found myself falling through an analog horror rabbit hole and becoming fascinated with the genre, even coming up with script ideas for my own. and i think that theres some stuff to keep in mind... first of all, i agree with your list completely. local 58 is the best by all technical and objective measures because of its (general) subtlety and commitment to verosimilitude. but something that i feel its pretty important to keep in mind is that fear, or scares, or that sense of delight at being able to access a controlled feeling of thrill, can be borderline addictive. that means that, for a large portion of the audience, if they cannot find a quality, well-written option to the best the genre can offer and they still crave those thrills of jumpscares and atmosphere, theyll end up latching to the closest thing. ive had horror-averse friendsdownloading and playing slenderman and five nights at freddy during my high school years, along with a cousin being a huge fan of bendy and the ink machine, and as much as i dont seem to be able to get into these properties, i kind of see the appeal. apart from the thrill of the scares theres an idea of a deeper story behind it, something you can sink your teeth into, even if its not precisely original or deep or well constructed. if it taps into that sense of interest regarding a possible narrative that rewards you for your attention, and a series of shocking moments that keep you invested, things like creativity and internal logic can be ignored most of the time. secondly, because of how deceptively simple these analog horror videos are (most of them are focused on execution, editing and concept, more than on hands-on filming, and dont need any expensive filmmaking things like professional sets, actors, locations, sound, etc) it means anyone can make their own. obviously, this comes with good and bad results. seeing these other examples of analog horror makes me annoyed as someone who experienced the twilight years of the vhs and, despite memories fading, still remembers the specific feel, sound and style of vhs, something that younger people probably know only as a retro photo filter. especially that one example you used (the mandela catalogue, with the historically-incorrect widescreen format and arial font and lack of proper edge blurriness and image decay and grain...) it really shows how its about the "aesthetic" of lost or analog media more than the actual feel of vhs, like im sure people who have actually made super-8 footage are a lot more adept at distinguishing it from fake super-8 footage than i am, its just something that happens with formats getting obsolete. as much as it bothers me tho, i do kinda believe that its kind of a moot point. if the viewer doesnt know how incorrect it is for the production of a proper historical vibe, their enjoyment wont be altered. like my previous point, as long as it delivers on what is required, aspects like *authenticity* and *originality* can be ignored in service of the things that most fans look forward to in their analog horror. (also. about that comment that claimed it was quality horror because it didnt have jumpscares... idk it sounded like they were repeating something theyve heard about what makes horror good, more than what they were actually seeing. they feel its good because it makes them feel something exciting, so they assume it adheres to these rules someone else established as "good horror") i do also think its really clear how much you love this medium, and it shows in how much you demand of it to keep to a certain standard. this was a really succint summary of what makes analog horror interesting and appealing from a filmmaking perspective and your LASOR guide breaks it down quite well in what just makes a good horror story in general. (sorry for the long comment, this really got me thinking)
What you said in that comment is what my poorly made VHS series Cornerback Molestone is based on, it's based on a 5-year-old kid trying to make his own Analog series. But in the true reality, he can't execute it perfectly and just sucks at it. I use Rarevision (which is a VHS app) to make this type of poorly made content. These videos are simply known for what i call them as Catalogs
@@jockohomosexual It could delve more into the philosophical aspect about free will, the story going from being traditional to being changed, whether minor or drastically. Do the choices of the story really matter? Maybe even have The Narrator appear whether by text, or voice. I dunno, I’m just spitballing here.
@@comixproviderftw_02 YES THE CHOICES OF THE GAME MATTER THE ENTIRE POINT IS THE CHOICES. WHAT. Like. without the choices Stanley Parable would be the most boring game man. What
This hits on almost everything that I have found with this trend. I have watched Mandela Catalogue fully and found it... a slog at times, but the world building is good enough and some of the subtler horror from volume 2 is heading in the right direction. Honestly, it feels a bit like a creator slowly finding a voice. I am interested on what will come next. I cannot watch the Walton Files. I tried, I really did. Some of it was decent. But episodes never engaged me. I was just thinking "oh boy, I wonder when Jack's gonna come back" and "I wonder if there are clues or something here," because it didn't hold my attention Compare either of those to Contingency or the masterpieces of DEANDEMOCRACY, ROCKEFELLERTREETREGEDY, and WASHINGTONWONDERLAND. That last one hurts my soul. But it will always be Local 58's Real Sleep that will haunt my nightmares forever. That is the only video I have watched that legitimately made me feel uncomfortable in my own skin. Scared does not cut it. I had to pause the video to remind myself that I was real. Thank you for making this video. EDIT: Forgot about Gemini. I like it. That was the series I found first. At this point I consider it middle of the road too. I can't gush over it, but no criticism either. Just a solid project. I keep up to date on it.
I feel like Gemini’s big fault is not how it handles analog horror, but cosmic horror. The whole point is that you’re not supposed to explain what the cosmic horror is, just slowly show how it works. Gemini is a masterpiece but even masterpieces are faulty.
Even though you went crazy by the end of the video with Walten files, the video is still the perfect example of what the community realized when it came to making the tred popular. Local58 made sense because in the United States (I'm Mexican) it's very common for TV signals to be interrupted by some joke. Monument Mythos also makes sense being almost archive declassified or barely shown to the public, even the final part where the universe goes to hell connects with the CornerFolks and the video becomes found footage of found footage. GHE has those touches, but even later it only uses aesthetics as an excuse to expand the story, an example of this is the official video game, which don't make any sense in-universe. The creator of Mandela Catalog KNOWS he screwed up, to the point that he claims that he can't watch the first videos of him because they cringe; he recently he tried to disassociate himself from the analog horror trend and now it's just like, I don't know, experimental cinema or something, but it's going well, the story is better understood, but the damage has already been done. As for Walten files, my opinion is not very good either, it seemed to me like a copy of the Fnaf training videos, and even the rest of the channel NOTES that it only uses the analog format as an aesthetic, not as a medium; it's like shooting a current movie with an old camera. Fortunately for me, there are very good examples of Analog Horror today, apart from the five titans you mentioned.
i definitely recommend the Macabre Experiment it definitely falls into the traps that Mandela Catalogue does, but I feel like it does it better i'm not pretending to ignore the downsides of Macabre Experiment, but there's definitely a lot of ups
I've never met anyone who disliked the Walten Files as much as you do or even anyone who disliked it at all. I think it's a very great and successful series.
Ik Mandela def has its holes and isn’t for everyone. Sometimes it isn’t super frightening and hard to take seriously, but it’s come a long way since it started out and ppl are way too harsh on the creator since he’s still relatively new to this game. TMC isn’t supposed to be a psa or news report like Local 58. It’s more like a compiled case study of the alternate crisis that has befallen Mandela County. I doubt alot of the ppl beating it up could make a better concept. Plus the concept is rather original: demons trying to replace you and assume your place in society in order to do the same to your friends and relatives is quite unsettling even if the series isn’t super horrifying.
Eventually I'll make an addendum video discussing all the new analog horror things coming out but for these two: Vita Carnis: Dogshit. A couple good scares but the onslaught of lore before anything actually happens and clear "VHS effect in capcut" vibes ruins it. The pictures are above the VHS effect half the time. The TTS voice is also boring as hell. It's a snoozefest and I don't get why people love it so much. It's a good concept, the designs are neat, but the execution is very flawed UrbanSpook: I actually like this one. I think it's a bit edgy and tryhard but I feel in an era where most horror feels designed for kids it's nice to see something this brutal and blunt. It got to me a good few times. The art is gorgeous too. I think it does not need to be a video or analog horror at all though, but the executions well done enough that I don't mind too much. Naming a CSA victim after an OneyPlays member is fucked though
@@jockohomosexual Thank GOD I found that thinks Vita Carnis is boring as fuck too. The only saving grace that Vita Carnis have are its props and that's it. I also agree with how Urbanspook seems to be a bit too try-hardy at certain parts as well.
I thought CH/SS is the first analog horror? You missed Eventide Media Center, which IMO stands out as the videos on that channel are not related (at the moment) and are more like a channel of short horror stories. To me, as a fan of Local 58 and Monument Mythos, these videos didn't scare me as much as it intrigues me. I want to watch the next videos so that I can understand more about the world! I mean, I fell in love for MM not after watching LIBERTYLURKER, but after watching DEANDEMOCRACY and that video has no aspect of horror. Yeah, I found Mandela Catalogue's popularity baffling. The edits are shitpost-tier I just can't help but laugh. Contrast this to Patorikku's Smile Tapes that has similar face edits but stronger horror aspects (please check that channel). If you love Monument Mythos, check out the fanfilms. They're great.
I forgot about CH/SS, and you could probably call it the first analog horror project, though I'm sure it all mostly goes back to being inspired by found footage horror. Haven't heard of EMC until right now. After watching a few videos, I'd put it between Gemini and Monument Mythos. It's pretty good!!
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i'm so angry you didn't include my favorite analog horror series, "high contrast face mangled by photoshop liquify tool with youtube vhs filter on top"
Hey. that's _my_ favorite too. Some coincidence!
filters 😊💚
i really love this video, ive been rly into ARGS since 2015 or so, back when everymanhybrid was still going and the trajectory the genre is going in is so...disheartening.
you perfectly put into words why! me and my partner have been referring to it as the tiktokification of online horror, or the backroomsification lol. it feels like it was made in a lab to be the next big scary thing : (
I've been thinking alot about this over the years I'm glad you made this vid
Two Analog Horrors I would recommend are The Tangi Virus and They Lie Above. Both are subtle enough with scares while telling a great story. I'd recommend them.
I enjoyed The Tangi Virus as I live in neighboring St. Tammany Parish and went to college in the parish as well.
THANK YOU for talking about how bad the Mandela Catalogue is. i never once got the hype for it. i tend to call it “Baby’s First Analog Horror” because that’s basically what it is. it’s kind of amateur
I feel like Mandela Catalogue improved
MC definitely has. It’s just rlly different. The creator said he wants to move away from traditional analogue horror tropes and he’s a lot more about existentialism than frightening imagery
amazing video! i appreciate your perspective and i will totally check out some of the series that you mentioned that i haven’t yet watched. so so good!
ok i only got into horror very recently (im a *huge* scaredy cat, and on that note i thank you kindly for not putting any unannounced jumpscares in here) but i found myself falling through an analog horror rabbit hole and becoming fascinated with the genre, even coming up with script ideas for my own. and i think that theres some stuff to keep in mind...
first of all, i agree with your list completely. local 58 is the best by all technical and objective measures because of its (general) subtlety and commitment to verosimilitude. but something that i feel its pretty important to keep in mind is that fear, or scares, or that sense of delight at being able to access a controlled feeling of thrill, can be borderline addictive. that means that, for a large portion of the audience, if they cannot find a quality, well-written option to the best the genre can offer and they still crave those thrills of jumpscares and atmosphere, theyll end up latching to the closest thing. ive had horror-averse friendsdownloading and playing slenderman and five nights at freddy during my high school years, along with a cousin being a huge fan of bendy and the ink machine, and as much as i dont seem to be able to get into these properties, i kind of see the appeal. apart from the thrill of the scares theres an idea of a deeper story behind it, something you can sink your teeth into, even if its not precisely original or deep or well constructed. if it taps into that sense of interest regarding a possible narrative that rewards you for your attention, and a series of shocking moments that keep you invested, things like creativity and internal logic can be ignored most of the time.
secondly, because of how deceptively simple these analog horror videos are (most of them are focused on execution, editing and concept, more than on hands-on filming, and dont need any expensive filmmaking things like professional sets, actors, locations, sound, etc) it means anyone can make their own. obviously, this comes with good and bad results. seeing these other examples of analog horror makes me annoyed as someone who experienced the twilight years of the vhs and, despite memories fading, still remembers the specific feel, sound and style of vhs, something that younger people probably know only as a retro photo filter. especially that one example you used (the mandela catalogue, with the historically-incorrect widescreen format and arial font and lack of proper edge blurriness and image decay and grain...) it really shows how its about the "aesthetic" of lost or analog media more than the actual feel of vhs, like im sure people who have actually made super-8 footage are a lot more adept at distinguishing it from fake super-8 footage than i am, its just something that happens with formats getting obsolete. as much as it bothers me tho, i do kinda believe that its kind of a moot point. if the viewer doesnt know how incorrect it is for the production of a proper historical vibe, their enjoyment wont be altered. like my previous point, as long as it delivers on what is required, aspects like *authenticity* and *originality* can be ignored in service of the things that most fans look forward to in their analog horror.
(also. about that comment that claimed it was quality horror because it didnt have jumpscares... idk it sounded like they were repeating something theyve heard about what makes horror good, more than what they were actually seeing. they feel its good because it makes them feel something exciting, so they assume it adheres to these rules someone else established as "good horror")
i do also think its really clear how much you love this medium, and it shows in how much you demand of it to keep to a certain standard. this was a really succint summary of what makes analog horror interesting and appealing from a filmmaking perspective and your LASOR guide breaks it down quite well in what just makes a good horror story in general.
(sorry for the long comment, this really got me thinking)
What you said in that comment is what my poorly made VHS series Cornerback Molestone is based on, it's based on a 5-year-old kid trying to make his own Analog series. But in the true reality, he can't execute it perfectly and just sucks at it. I use Rarevision (which is a VHS app) to make this type of poorly made content. These videos are simply known for what i call them as Catalogs
While I don't think that Analog horror is an irreparable state, I do think some major changes do need to be made.
Someone should make Analog Horror videos on The Stanley Parable
ban this guy. ban him
@@jockohomosexual What? There could be some potential there lol.
@@comixproviderftw_02 Why would you make a video series adapting a game that is literally entirely about choice
@@jockohomosexual It could delve more into the philosophical aspect about free will, the story going from being traditional to being changed, whether minor or drastically. Do the choices of the story really matter? Maybe even have The Narrator appear whether by text, or voice. I dunno, I’m just spitballing here.
@@comixproviderftw_02 YES THE CHOICES OF THE GAME MATTER THE ENTIRE POINT IS THE CHOICES. WHAT.
Like. without the choices Stanley Parable would be the most boring game man. What
This hits on almost everything that I have found with this trend.
I have watched Mandela Catalogue fully and found it... a slog at times, but the world building is good enough and some of the subtler horror from volume 2 is heading in the right direction. Honestly, it feels a bit like a creator slowly finding a voice. I am interested on what will come next.
I cannot watch the Walton Files. I tried, I really did. Some of it was decent. But episodes never engaged me. I was just thinking "oh boy, I wonder when Jack's gonna come back" and "I wonder if there are clues or something here," because it didn't hold my attention
Compare either of those to Contingency or the masterpieces of DEANDEMOCRACY, ROCKEFELLERTREETREGEDY, and WASHINGTONWONDERLAND. That last one hurts my soul.
But it will always be Local 58's Real Sleep that will haunt my nightmares forever. That is the only video I have watched that legitimately made me feel uncomfortable in my own skin. Scared does not cut it. I had to pause the video to remind myself that I was real.
Thank you for making this video.
EDIT:
Forgot about Gemini. I like it. That was the series I found first. At this point I consider it middle of the road too. I can't gush over it, but no criticism either. Just a solid project. I keep up to date on it.
I feel like Gemini’s big fault is not how it handles analog horror, but cosmic horror. The whole point is that you’re not supposed to explain what the cosmic horror is, just slowly show how it works.
Gemini is a masterpiece but even masterpieces are faulty.
Even though you went crazy by the end of the video with Walten files, the video is still the perfect example of what the community realized when it came to making the tred popular. Local58 made sense because in the United States (I'm Mexican) it's very common for TV signals to be interrupted by some joke. Monument Mythos also makes sense being almost archive declassified or barely shown to the public, even the final part where the universe goes to hell connects with the CornerFolks and the video becomes found footage of found footage. GHE has those touches, but even later it only uses aesthetics as an excuse to expand the story, an example of this is the official video game, which don't make any sense in-universe. The creator of Mandela Catalog KNOWS he screwed up, to the point that he claims that he can't watch the first videos of him because they cringe; he recently he tried to disassociate himself from the analog horror trend and now it's just like, I don't know, experimental cinema or something, but it's going well, the story is better understood, but the damage has already been done. As for Walten files, my opinion is not very good either, it seemed to me like a copy of the Fnaf training videos, and even the rest of the channel NOTES that it only uses the analog format as an aesthetic, not as a medium; it's like shooting a current movie with an old camera. Fortunately for me, there are very good examples of Analog Horror today, apart from the five titans you mentioned.
i definitely recommend the Macabre Experiment
it definitely falls into the traps that Mandela Catalogue does, but I feel like it does it better
i'm not pretending to ignore the downsides of Macabre Experiment, but there's definitely a lot of ups
The Walten Files segment is hilarious and accurate but I can understand why you cut it
I've never met anyone who disliked the Walten Files as much as you do or even anyone who disliked it at all. I think it's a very great and successful series.
I didn't like it either. It's as bad as FNaF and Slenderman, and it seems that those three are mostly popular on the same audience, kids.
@@budakbaongsiah I'd be very concerned if there were children out there watching the Walten Files.
@@ThermalLabs I don't think kids really care tbh.
@@ThermalLabs exactly it's too scary for them
amazing video I hope U make more xx
I love ep1 of the mandela catalogue. It unsettled me more than some of the stuff he ripped off, but the faces were silly.
Ik Mandela def has its holes and isn’t for everyone. Sometimes it isn’t super frightening and hard to take seriously, but it’s come a long way since it started out and ppl are way too harsh on the creator since he’s still relatively new to this game. TMC isn’t supposed to be a psa or news report like Local 58. It’s more like a compiled case study of the alternate crisis that has befallen Mandela County. I doubt alot of the ppl beating it up could make a better concept. Plus the concept is rather original: demons trying to replace you and assume your place in society in order to do the same to your friends and relatives is quite unsettling even if the series isn’t super horrifying.
What are your thoughts on Vita Carnis and Urban Spook??
Eventually I'll make an addendum video discussing all the new analog horror things coming out but for these two:
Vita Carnis: Dogshit. A couple good scares but the onslaught of lore before anything actually happens and clear "VHS effect in capcut" vibes ruins it. The pictures are above the VHS effect half the time. The TTS voice is also boring as hell. It's a snoozefest and I don't get why people love it so much. It's a good concept, the designs are neat, but the execution is very flawed
UrbanSpook: I actually like this one. I think it's a bit edgy and tryhard but I feel in an era where most horror feels designed for kids it's nice to see something this brutal and blunt. It got to me a good few times. The art is gorgeous too. I think it does not need to be a video or analog horror at all though, but the executions well done enough that I don't mind too much. Naming a CSA victim after an OneyPlays member is fucked though
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Thank GOD I found that thinks Vita Carnis is boring as fuck too.
The only saving grace that Vita Carnis have are its props and that's it.
I also agree with how Urbanspook seems to be a bit too try-hardy at certain parts as well.
How can you call Monument Mythos subtle when it had a legit CGI fight between a statue and a star child?
make whatever you want, ppl just complain
Idk much about analog horror, but good video
*yes.*
now i'll watch the video
thank you
Good video mate
I thought CH/SS is the first analog horror?
You missed Eventide Media Center, which IMO stands out as the videos on that channel are not related (at the moment) and are more like a channel of short horror stories.
To me, as a fan of Local 58 and Monument Mythos, these videos didn't scare me as much as it intrigues me. I want to watch the next videos so that I can understand more about the world! I mean, I fell in love for MM not after watching LIBERTYLURKER, but after watching DEANDEMOCRACY and that video has no aspect of horror.
Yeah, I found Mandela Catalogue's popularity baffling. The edits are shitpost-tier I just can't help but laugh. Contrast this to Patorikku's Smile Tapes that has similar face edits but stronger horror aspects (please check that channel).
If you love Monument Mythos, check out the fanfilms. They're great.
I forgot about CH/SS, and you could probably call it the first analog horror project, though I'm sure it all mostly goes back to being inspired by found footage horror.
Haven't heard of EMC until right now. After watching a few videos, I'd put it between Gemini and Monument Mythos. It's pretty good!!
Local58 technically came before CH/SS. Local58 videos date back to 2015 whereas CH/SS dates to 2016
This is really cool!
Oh just wait untill TWF4 drops
if that drops and it's anything below the 1 hour mark i'm losing my shit i'm sorry i understand creators need hiatuses but dude.
Most ARGs and analog horror try way too hard to be edgy.
The Walton Files segment is pure hater energy and I agree with all of it
Well you are minor in The Walten Files opinion, everyone loves it
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