The Ferry Powered By A Live Electric Wire
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2023
- On the Straussee lake, 30km east of Berlin, you will find something that exists nowhere else in Europe: a ferry powered by an overhead electric power line. But why would you ever power a ferry with a live overhead wire? I went to Strausberg to find out more...
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Ukrainian electric train by George Chernilevsky - commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fi...
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WE APOLOGISE FOR THE FAULT IN THE SUBTITLES. The ticket for the boat is actually €1.90. I thought the guy was saying "3 Euro Zwanzig" for two tickets, but he was actually saying "3 Euro Achtzig". Thank you to the several hundred German-speakers who have pointed this out in the comments.
Also the €1.70 ticket shown on screen is for Line 89 (which is a tram) and not Line 39 (which is the ferry).
Those responsible have been sacked.
I'm sure I speak for many others when I demand pictures of the sack!
... that music! I see what you did there you cheeky sod!
@@highaltitudecherenkovloren9499 Indeed, is it burlap, paper, linen, polyester mesh...
The risk of filming in Germany. The (reverse) pedantry will be unlimited. (At least from the perspective of a humble Austrian ;) )
We apologise again for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.
Electrified canal seems like the most futuristic retro that could exist. Might even be a good way to transport bulk goods.
Seems like a much bigger investment in infrastructure than an electric railway (having to dig the canal and all that) for much lower speeds. And lower speeds not only means longer transit times, but also less throughput in total. Not even sure that it would be more energy efficient for the same haulage - ships are typically only more efficient than trains when very big, but canals only allow pretty narrow boats.
So while it is peak futuristic retro (is electropunk a thing?) I doubt it's actually a practical idea.
I think the idea would rather be, to refit exsisting canals. And although that might be a cool solution for some small canals with a lot of boat traffic, there are limitation with big canals, who might just be to wide.
Indeed, it's a shame that it replaced the steam-powered airships though!
Am I the only engineer here thinking, "Sparks and water, never the twain..."?
"Electrified Canal" is also an incredibly good name for a punk band.
Well, actually....
The screenshot of the ticket prices you showed was for the equally cool tram line 89 in Strausberg.
The price for the ferry is 1.90€ per person, meaning that you had to pay 3.80€ for you two, which incidentally is what the boat operator quoted to you while selling the tickets, although you subtitled it incorrectly as 3.20€. So either he gave you the wrong change or you counted it wrong :)
Good video, though! Habt ihr jut jemacht!
Thank you for your visit to Pedantry Corner!
Ah thank you for the pedantry, much appreciated! I could swear he said "Zwanzig" but yes you're right, it must be "Achtzig".
Edit: also yes it seems I confused tram line 89 (which is a tram) and tram line 39 (which is the ferry).
Well, I guess it's back to beginner German and Mathematics lessons for me
I was baffled when I clearly heard "3,80" (drei und achtzig) and the subtitle claimed 3,20 (drei und zwanzig) but chalked it up to some strange regional pronunciation or something... before remembering how close to Berlin this is. Glad I'm not losing my hearing quite as bad as I thought after all. =)
@@TheTimTraveller maybe he said that you get "zwanzig"/twenty cents back
@@mypdf No because he paid with a fiver.
@@jolanvreys2224 well, then he got "eins zwanzig zurück"
Yes Tim, you do have fans in Oregon. I even live in the Willamette Valley, near those ferries. And thanks for correctly pronouncing both 'Oregon' and 'Willamette'.
Oh cool! Someone from Oh-RAY-gone! 😎
Yeah, Oregon. The land of the Oregano
This comment wins
Hi! I live next door in Idaho
As an Oregoninan, I was equally pleased with the pronouciation.
"Both grounded and floating" is a pun most of your less electrically inclined viewers probably can't fully appreciate. Rest assured that some of us do!
As I am both navally inclined and electrically inclined, it had me in stitches.
A grounded system is rare on shipboard. Most floating electrical systems are floating.
I wonder if it tickles swimmers when the ferry is in the middle of the lake? Once a fair amount of cable is played out, the resistance would lead some of the current to go through the water. Especially if the power really is only at 230V.
Genuine question can one be ungrounded and floating?
I missed something somewhere im sure.
@@joshgreen2164 In electric terminology, floating basically means no ground reference. Consequently, being grounded and (electrically) floating at the same time is mutually exclusive.
Only Tim can make a truly wholesome happy mood video with the soundtrack from "Das Boot" - about a boat :)
"They said overhead electrified ferries were going out of style. Not yet Kameraden! Not yet!"
The piano arrangement was mostly Oasis’s classic 1995 album track “She’s Electric”. Took me a moment to place it but a classic Tim Traveller bit of subliminal music messaging
It is a fantastic soundtrack though
It was the Tugs theme that got me...that was a pretty obscure reference!
@@grahamroberts2050 At 2'24" it's definitely the theme from Das Boot.
As a former Oregonian, I'm thrilled that you pronounced "Willamette" correctly! Sooooo many people from outside the region mispronounce it, and I'm glad I didn't have to comment and say, "Well, actually..." Thanks for another great video, Tim! ❤
Now let’s see him take on the advanced names from Washington like Puyallup or Nisqually or Ohanapecosh. 😁
I was watching a geology channel not long ago and he got nearly every place name wrong, even Spokane and Yakima. I’ve lived near Rainier and the Seattle area off and on my whole life and it’s so frustrating when creators don’t take two minutes to look up a pronunciation.
What do you mean, how could someone pronounce Spo-cane incorrectly?
Well ... Those pioneers who settled in Oregon were largely illiterate, weren't they. It doesn't surprise me that the local placenames reflect that.
I swear a significant chunk of American towns West of the Appalachians were made by people who didn't entirely understand how to spell.
Same, same, and same 😅👏🏻
Whatever floats your boat. 🤔
Btw, a Tim&Tom collab would be electrifying.
If I remember correctly, Tim appeared in some of the old Matt & Tom park bench videos. Was it the Eurovision one?
It certainly wouldn't hertz to try it.
@@imightbebiased9311 But it could potentially make a difference
@@rafaelribas1027 Now you have me imagining a Geoff Marshall video. "Hello. I've come to see the least used bench in Hyde Park..." (pan over to see Matt & Tom chattering away, pan back to Geoff) "...but there are two blokes using it!"
@@rafaelribas1027 That's a different Tim
Well actually, the 'ferry boat' to cross onto the island of Lefkas (Levkada) from the Greek mainland is powered by being connected directly to the grid.
It is helped in this by the fact that it doesn't travel across the canal. Cars drive straight across it much like a pontoon bridge, and to let boats through they pull up the ramps at each end, and it pivots around a piling much like a swing bridge.
Rumour has it that it is very definitely not a bridge because islands only accessible by ferry have tax advantages...
Definitely not a bridge 😂 Thank you for that tax-evasion pedantry! Much appreciated.
A swing bridge that proclaims itself a ferry for tax purposes indeed sounds very "alcohol, alcohol, alcohol is free!"
That is the most Greek thing I've heard and I love it
@@LeafHuntress Hehe, yes!
I mean, to be fair to the claim of being a boat, it does float, which most bridges don't. On the other hand, it doesn't go anywhere, which most ferries do.
I just drove over that ferry yesterday :)
6:19
that tugs theme is so damn good
the detail in these vids for nerds like me to point at the screen yelling "Thats the tugs theme!" is amazing.
Well, actually there is another electric ferry in Germany. A solar powered tourist ferry on the western part of Lake Constance which has been operating on solar power only in the summer months since the 1990s.
Mr Traveller, I want to say I very much appreciate that you always mention wheelchair accessability of the places you visit. That is all.
Was that a version of "Danger, High Voltage!"
in the background?
If you are into both electric ferries, trains, bridges and old tech then the »Rendsburger Schwebefähre« in Rendsburg, northern Germany, might be interesting to you. It's a canal "ferry" that is suspended from a huge railway bridge and glides over the Kiel Canal. It's one of only eight in the world.
The Rendsburg Bridge is very much on my to-do list!
@@TheTimTraveller Nice! Looking forward to the video!
When you are in Rendsburg take a look also at the strange three-part-folding bridge in Kiel (20kms). It is unique and looks very interesting but has a quite embarrassing history: It is over complicated and never worked as intended, it needs a lot of maintenance. In fact they keep a very simple improvised backup bridge next to it, for when the big one fails again …
I was there, mostly for the trains, but also super excited for the "ferry"... aaand it was closed for maintenance... next time perhaps.
@@TheTimTraveller If you ever come to Oregon to actually cross the Willamette by ferry (and thank you for pronouncing the river's name correctly), I hope you'll also go a few miles northwest and take the Cathlamet Ferry across the Columbia.
I actually came to this video to suggest it! I took it last week on my cycling trip through the Netherlands, Germany and Denmark! :D
The railway bridge is a spectacle in itself, but the ferry really makes it incredibly special.
When you say "electrified canal", it made me think of like the canal on the Mississippi that regularly has a current run through it to stop invasive species from spreading into the Great Lakes
Didn't Tom Scott do a video on this?
Tom Scott video?
@@LadyAnuB Yes
@@reamick And well worth watching.
Eco friendly pesticide, let’s gooooooo
Between 1914 and 1954, canal boats were pulled through the Harecastle Tunnel on the Trent and Mersey canal near Stoke on Trent by electric tugs. Initially they were powered using batteries, but after 1931 an overhead conductor was used.
I'd think canals would make for really good places to run electric boats. They are fairly narrow and straight, and all the traffic is going up or down the canal, not across. The only major barriers I'd see would be if private companies were running barges you'd need a way to meter the cost, but you could probably do that with a flat fee. Compared to the infrastructure of building a canal throwing up some power lines would seem to be pretty simple, although maybe in their heyday mules were cheaper.
Switching the music to “Under the Sea” at 6:39 for the underwater cable boat was brilliant!
“She’s electric” 🎶 great tune!
Great video as ever, Tim. I’d love to know how Germans try to pronounce “Niamh”!
I'm guessing Ni-am, kinda like Liam?
People mispronunciating Irish names is my Pet Piamh.
I'm an English-speaking Canadian and I have *heard* the name before but always assumed it was spelled "Neve" (or maybe "Nieve"). I have *seen* Niamh in print before but never imagined it would be pronounced as it is. I'm reminded of Siobhan, which is actually pronounced "ShaVON". I don't know how the Irish came up with these spellings but they certainly confuse people like me ;-)
@@EntropiaGuitars Go raibh maith agat agus oíche mhaith. Tá do tacsaí ag fanacht!
@@triviabuff5682 mhaith an feair :D
Where do you keep finding these things, Tim
If he told us he'd be out of a job now wouldn't he?
I'm guessing at this point people just send him suggestions.
I actually found out about this one after watching his video about motorless ferries and looking up other ferries in German-speaking countries on Wikipedia.
I'd imagine Tim found this one at Straussee lake, 30km east of Berlin
When I started watching the video, I was like, we have electric ferries connected to overhead electric wire near me. Then you actually mentioned the two Oregon ferries. I was impressed that you pronouced "Willamette" correctly. Very few people from outside of Oregon, including reporters, ever do.
Oregon Viewer here, thank you for noticing us. I grew up in a small town near canby and have been on said ferry many times.
Well, actually: hidden away in the outskirts of Budapest there's a tiny cable ferry that is propelled electrically... by a winch on the shore. The cable is fastened to the boat and runs through pulleys on one shore and a large winch drum on the other, where an operator sits and maneuvers the ferry around by tensioning different bits of the cable.
Wikipedia tells me a similar ferry exists in the Netherlands in Jonen.
I've been there, at Jonen. There's absolutely nothing there.
@@RobinRense meanwhile, i was on one such ferry in the norwegian fjords and can't find any info on it (there's not even a ferry anywhere along my route according to google)
A Winch makes more Sense to me than a overhead line, since there are cables going across anyway
I love that you made a rendition of the theme tune to Tugs. As always a great video.
I have to say, your eclectic music selection on this is spectacular!
...not!!!! :)))
Fire in the disco! Fire in the... Taco bell!
Thanks for the Oregon shout out! Have ridden all three ferries across the Willamette, all wonderful little short cruises.
"High voltage" by Electric Six! Well played sir, well played.
I did NOT expect Oregon’s River ferries to be reviewed! Personally, I’ve never ridden it before, but I’ve been to the Canby ferry dock on the west side of the river
Very subtil, that Das Boot tune. I like it. 😂
Thanks for that, I just couldn't quite put my finger on it and was hoping someone would put it in the comments.
@@sabinebogensperger1928 I was about to do just that but saw Joost already did. :)
Hi Tim! Whilst in Germany and looking for obscurities on German inland waters I'd highly recommend a trip to the Hessian town of Weilburg, the hometown of the Royal Family Nassau-Weilburg (moved for reasons now to Luxembourg though, but still a fancy lovely castle). There they have the longest and still operating canal tunnel AND you can go through it with one of the plenty boat rental places you can find along the Lahn river! And if you're done, in nearby Limburg you can witness the beauty of modern-day Catholic corruption (diverting church money into fancy 1st class flights and millions into the bishop's residence) ✌🏼 or to Hadamar, which is a beautiful small town but a very dark piece of 20th century history! Long stretch from Berlin, but sure you'd like it!
3:40 I resoundingly support your choice of music. You are a man of truly great taste.
First of all, very impressive pronunciation of "Willamette" which you did perfectly ("Will-am-it" for anyone reading along). Second, I do live in the Willamette Valley (Portland, Oregon to be specific) and now I'm going to have to visit one of those electric ferries that are apparently nearby, so thanks for taking up one of my weekends. Beyond that, what ever happened to the resort at the other side of the lake? It looked like maybe it wasn't there anymore? Lastly, thanks so much for all the wonderful videos. They really are a pleasure. All the best to you, Tim.
"Oregon" as well. So nice to hear them both pronounced perfectly.
How else do people pronounce it? I've only ever heard it said as Tim says it.
@@acciid All sorts of ways. The (incorrect) way I've heard most is "Will-um-et."
"orygun" and "will uh metty" are common mispronunciations
Thanks 🙂
The Ferry at Treptower Park is now battery electric and it docks not via lines but with electromagnets (e.g. line F11). Also Berlin has a row boat ferry (line F24) which is included in all public transport tickets.
Do you get to row the F24 ferry yourself, or is there someone doing it for you?
@@andreasu.3546 The ferryman does the rowing.
Don't pay him until he gets you to the other side! Ah, but it's included so I wonder if it counts as already paying him?
Once again, Tim's soundtrack doesn't disappoint.
I'm just loving, at 2:07, the interpretive sign with "Der Blick heute" over a rectangular cutout in the sign. In North America, there'd be a photo of what's right behind the sign!
Wonderful version of "She's Electric"!
Along with "Das Boot" and "Danger! High Voltage" and "Under the Sea", your choice of music is on point once again.
Viewer from northwest Oregon and extremely impressed with your correct pronunciation of Willamette. Everybody gets it wrong! 👏 Brilliant as always Tim!
I enjoyed the symmetry between the music and the subject of the video, thanks Tim.
Excellent video as always and a shout out for your musical choices as always
I live like 10km away, I have been at the Straussee pretty much like 30 times in the past years (in fact, twice this weekend), but until I saw your video, I wasn‘t aware of the ferry being electric. Thank you for this! 💪🏻
"these are overhead wires, you may have seen them before on trains, trams, or trolley busses"
Americans: *visible confusion*
San Francisco objects. Trolleys and trolley buses are all over the city
Anyone who has seen Jago Hazzard's videos on the American entrepreneur Charles Yerkes, will know he started in Chicago with trams and maybe even trolley buses before moving to London to revamp parts of the fledgling Underground.
@@davekuder1590 Yep, I was going to mention this but you beat me to it
There are tolleybuses in Seattle, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Boston and Dayton.
There are overhead electric trams in 30 US cities.
There are ovehead wire electric mainline trains in/around San Francisco, Denver, Chicago and throughout Maryland, Southeastern Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut.
@@OntarioTrafficMan Yep, Caltrain's going electric overhead while BART is third rail electric
Sheeees electric. Opening tune was not unnoticed.
I giggled giddily when Electric 6 started - great choice!
the cheeky bit of space man at 1:17 is very fitting here at the end of eurovision season!
Small world, count me as yet another TTT fan to comment from Oregon in the last hour. Just upstream of the Buena Vista electric ferry. 50 years ago my brother used to commute to work on the Canby electric ferry!
I LIVE IN PORTLAND, OREGON! I had no idea there were electric ferries on the Wilamette (well done on the pronunciation 😅)! I’ll have to check them out sometime. I was shocked to see a map of Oregon pop up on screen. Greetings from the PNW 👋🏻
i used to go on vacation to sweden with my parents every year in my childhood. the yellow ferries there were always fascinating to me because they are counted as part of the road network so they are paid for by taxes, so you do not need a ticket. some of them can be quite big while others are tiny and only go very short trips, many of them being wired ferries.
Washington State Ferries across Puget Sound also count as part of the road network, though they are not free.
Well actually.. (sorry) 😂 The specific pictured Linfärja in Vaxholm, Sweden, is not paid for by taxes. It costs 60SEK (€5,5) for a one way ticket and 100SEK (€9) for a round trip. They’ve had large problems with it funding after the pandemic and have increased the fees and decreased its frequency of operation.. sadly.
The large ones, for cars, seem to be free in most if not all cases, tho, just as you said!
The biggest ones are the M/S Saturnus and her sisters Neptunus and Tellus, which are 100 meters and 1000 DWT.
@@HB45175 thank you! I was always wondering what the largest ships in that fleet might be as there are so many and they all seem to be perfectly made for their purpose
Well done on the pronunciation of Willamette. Nice to see the thorough research behind these videos showing even in the little things.
4:40 I was not expecting such joke potential. You conduct yourself very well!
I'm one of those viewers in Northwest Oregon! You can go "tubing" in the Willamette River and if you launch from the Buena Vista landing, you have to be careful not to get bowled over by the ferry.
Can’t believe I’ve lived in both Portland and Berlin and never heard of this nor the ferries along the Willamette
And there's a diesel ferry on the Columbia, connecting Westport OR (near Clatskanie) with Cathlamet WA.
it makes me a sad little man, but growing up all over the world but living in the portland oregon metro, i squeeled with glee when you mentioned the canby ferry. whenever I have foreigners for a stay, if its running, I take them on the canby ferry and they do a wee happy dance with me, as its awesome sauce. not since you were in soda springs idaho, have I felt so connected to you. thanks mate!
Brilliant use of "Danger High Voltage" while talking about... Voltage 👍
Viewer from western Oregon here. You said Willamette correctly! I'm impressed. 😃 Apparently it's difficult for non natives due to its spelling.
Bless you 😂
Electricity and water never mix, Strausberg, "hold my beer" 🙄
Always nice to have people in the video's and a nod to other film makers (i know wrong but cant remember the real word, senior moment)
Nice cover of danger high voltage there Tim!
Hi Tim. A lovely video, as always. Thank you for the timing of it. I have been showing your videos to my mum and she loves them. Imagine her delight to get one on Mother's Day!
Another joyful and interesting video, always love a Tim Traveller upload.
“She’s Electric” as the opening music, perfect!
Oh man, not only the video, but also the audio is SO spot on in Tims videos! I'm not German, but I noticed at 2:22 when Tim said "he was going to need a boat', the background audio is that of the (German!) band Eisbrecher, that goes like 'wir sitzen allen in einem Boot' (which roughly translates as 'we are all in the same boat'. Love it.
I thought it was the theme to "Das Boot".
The Tugs theme, yaaay!
Well-made, as always. Thank you!
Love the music in this episode it reminded me of the episode of All the Stations where they visited Cromford. Some might say it’s Electric. It really Tugs at my heart strings.
I've been to Strausberg many times, but have never heard of this ferry. Thank's for the tip!
I just love guessing and trying to recognize all the different songs in the background of Tim’s Videos. Nice one of Electric Six btw ⚡️😄
I‘m from near Canby and currently on exchange a couple villages south of Strausberg!
This feels like it was made for me but also wasn’t because he was here but I didn’t see him😢.
I was going to comment that this seemed very similar to a recent Tom Scott video, but well actually, Tim got there before me :p
Keep the great videos coming. Thanks for being so good humored.
Never thought to see a video about my town. Recognized it with the first frames.
Love the videos!
Keep them coming.
Not only do you fans in Oregon, but also Tokyo as well. ❤
Used to live south of Salem, OR (Eugene) for a time, and how did I miss those ferries!? (I recall driving near one, but think it wasn't running at the time).
Now living about 250 miles north on the west side of Puget Sound, but worth checking out since a fairly easy road trip. I always enjoy your videos and the virtual road trips, and thrilled there's a site you mention that I can reach within a day's drive (even on my Vespa!).
A note for Europeans: Puget Sound is where Seattle is; it has more ferries, and bigger ferries, than I can explain in a short comment.
Yet again I'm very impressed by your choice of music for this video! Although it seems a bit grim to me to use "Das Boot" from Klaus Doldinger (used for the submarine Movie of the same name) and "Under the sea" from the Arielle movie. 😂
I shivered when I heard it! Would recommend ;)
Yay! New video from Tim! Let's go!
I love "She's electric", great song choice!
The thing I love most about this channel is the music! Brilliant :)
Thank for using that TUGS theme. It brought a tear to my eye
Lovely!! Thanks Tim.
The tugs theme around 6:30 gave me a good laugh
Lovely touch with the "She's Electric" intro!
The tunes you play are always perfect! Love it! 😂
Great, again! And your not-absolutely-local guide was very sympathetic. Now I'm hoping for a video about the Strausberger Eisenbahn...
That Electric Six cover was also a nice touch! 😄
Thank you ferry much for that delightfull video!
Every single time the music on your videos has me cracking up, 10/10
Must admit I was briefly distracted by the PINK Mazda Demio at 0:24.
Love the Tugs music making an apperance, very nice!
She's Electric! Very good.
If you're looking for more transport oddities while in Berlin, you could head towards the façade of the old Anhalter Bahnhof. This was a major rail terminus until it was cut off from the rail network due to the division of Berlin. I find it quite spooky that such a thing stands.
Or if you're looking for a Cold War relic, head to the listening station at Teufelsberg.
Oh my goodness, i really wasn't expecting to hear the theme tune to 'Tugs' on this video. What a pure hit of nostalgia!
Tim, thank you for reminding me about Tugs for the first time in about thirty years.
I love the vibe of this channel so much
Stellar music in this episode. Love it!
Music on point as always, Tim!
I'll put this on my to do list for when I visit Berlin. Great video as always.
Anyone else catch the subtle, ’Electric 6 - Danger! High Voltage!’ reference? …smoove, Tim.
Brilliant video as always!
Love the choice for the backing track!
I live in Berlin for over half a decade. Thanks to this video, we finally went and visited Strausberg and played two Escape Rooms there. We wanted to ride the ferry, but ate ice cream instead, and since it was the evening, the ferry stopped for that day. We came back to Berlin. No regrets.
Always love the version of electric 6
Thanks for mentioning the Oregonian Willamette electric ferries. I rode one once when my family lives in Portland. Now I'm in Minnesota.
I like you used the Tugs Theme Cover Cusic when talking about the electric powered tugs. I have a lot of nostalga about that show, having grown up with it.
Using the Das Boot soundtrack was genius
Keep the videos coming, they're a joy