Why Snape's Race Matters in the Harry Potter Series

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  • Опубликовано: 1 фев 2025

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  • @landonle9329
    @landonle9329 Месяц назад +33

    im a person of color myself, BUT i DONT like the idea of changing so much aesthetically the image of what we grew up with. keep him looking like an old Salamander with jet black hair hahahah

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад +1

      @@landonle9329 I think this is my favorite comment of the day 😂🤣😂

    • @MokaVT
      @MokaVT Месяц назад

      @landonle9329 Dude, i love ya

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад

      @@MokaVT love ya back!!

  • @christiegood100
    @christiegood100 Месяц назад +25

    100% correct. There is no reason to make these changes. And you are right we would all be so mad if they race swapped Kingsley. They just need to forget the DEI nonsense.

  •  Месяц назад +3

    It’s like making Blade white.

  • @BlabberingCollector
    @BlabberingCollector Месяц назад +12

    Lore matters. If it didn't, then nothing matters

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад +1

      The small group is who don’t care about it. I’m happy the vast majority of die hard fans care about

  • @sassylital
    @sassylital Месяц назад +11

    10000% and not to mention we have some of them who haven't read the books. How are you going to be faithful if you don't even know the art you're dealing with? They do this with every single show where DEI has to be shoved down our throats and so blatantly obviously changed the way the true adaptation of characters are instead of sticking to the core source material

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад

      I couldn’t have said it better myself!! Thank you for sharing your thoughts and I’m glad I’m not the only one feeling this way.

  • @fadhilahyusof7666
    @fadhilahyusof7666 Месяц назад +7

    It doesn't matter if the new guy is Oscar winner actor, he does not look the part! We know Snape like we know our own best friend but now WB is telling us everything we know & familiar with is a lie, that it doesn't matter, because they can just come in & smash our childhood memories!!

  • @chrispoirier2016
    @chrispoirier2016 Месяц назад +7

    This is even worse since he's dead, what is we put a white guy to replace Chadwick bosman in black panther? Bet they wouldn't appreciate that would they

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад +1

      No one ever thinks about how theyd feel about if roles were reversed and whites take the black characters roles

  • @laurapolanco4033
    @laurapolanco4033 25 дней назад +1

    100% agree with you!

  • @jozefmasny8349
    @jozefmasny8349 Месяц назад +2

    Snape is a Death Eater, they are something like racists. It's a no brainer.

  • @Disneyloverr566
    @Disneyloverr566 Месяц назад +2

    💯 agree!!! Stay true to characters I hate that every series is doing this trend!!! I want a show that is true to the books!!!

  • @joshuahallett6235
    @joshuahallett6235 Месяц назад +2

    I frankly agree with you and on the note of Shacklebolt I think Paapa could play a brilliant Kingsley but Snape No!

  • @CandlewickLibrary
    @CandlewickLibrary Месяц назад +1

    Yes! You are not alone in this!

  • @saklee1777
    @saklee1777 13 дней назад

    12:35 I always hated the way dumbledore was portrayed in movies 3-8. I find the 1st and 2nd movie to do better but I did find dumbledore to be too gentle. But in the other movies I found him to be too angry and too loud.

  • @TrishaB512
    @TrishaB512 Месяц назад +11

    Thanks for taking the risk to talk about something we’re all talking about. I agree that HP fans are excited about this series to get that true to life story directly from the books. We want to see the books played out as they are written.
    Unfortunately, like you said, those promises are going to be an utter lie. We’ve already seen the director say he has never read the books. So I seem them trying to force DEI initiatives and taking creative liberties…I just hope they are ready for the backlash when they do.
    It will be hard to see anyone play these iconic characters, but if they are giving them to us they should be book accurate as promised.

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад +1

      @@TrishaB512 I couldn’t have said it better myself!! Words of wisdom!! STICK TO THE BOOK!! That’s all we ask!!

    • @learobinson4450
      @learobinson4450 Месяц назад

      @TheCollectingWizard The books consistently describe Ron as being tall & lanky with lots of freckles & a long nose. Rupert Grint didn’t fit that description since he was shorter & on the stocky side & didn’t have many noticeable freckles. Fred & George are repeatedly described as shorter with a stocky build yet the actors who played them were tall & slender. Luna was always described as bug-eyed with scraggly dirty blonde hair yet Evanna Lynch wasn’t popped-eyed & had a head full of white blonde hair. Did you ever complain about them not fitting the character descriptions in the books? Did you ever tell the producers & directors who hired them to “STICK TO THE BOOKS!!”? How about the actor playing Bill Weasley not having his hair in a pony tail. Every description of Bill in the books says he wears his long red hair in a pony tail yet the actor isn’t shown on screen with a pony tail. Did you post a diatribe on RUclips about that? You just have a problem with $kin tone. You get upset when that & only that doesn’t match descriptions from the books. Why? Why aren’t you yelling “STICK TO THE BOOKS!!” when other characteristics don’t match? You’re outing yourself & your prejudices.

  • @isabellesundberg5961
    @isabellesundberg5961 Месяц назад +2

    I agree! Things are going too far with all the adaptations and the so-called “political correctness.” The truth is that people are afraid to speak up because they fear being called this, that, and so on….I’m glad someone finally addresses the elephant…
    Wasn't the whole point of the series to make a true version of the books?

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад +2

      I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thinks this

    • @learobinson4450
      @learobinson4450 Месяц назад

      @isabellesundberg5961. Luna is consistently described in the books as having protruding eyes & scraggly dirty blonde hair. Are you going to complain if they hire an actress who’s not bug-eyed & has a head full of shining blonde hair? One that closely resembles Evanna Lynch. I doubt it.
      Did you get upset that Rupert Grint & the Phelps twins didn't match the book descriptions of the 3 youngest Weasley brothers? Ron was tall & lanky with lots of freckles & a long, thin nose while the twins were shorter & stocky. Yet the actors who played them were the opposite. The Phelps twins were tall & slender while Grint was shorter & more solidly built with a short wide nose. Did that bother you at all? Were you at all upset that they didn’t match the book descriptions?
      How about the actors who played the Dursleys. They didn’t match the book descriptions very well. Petunia & Dudley were blonde & Vernon had dark hair yet in the movies the actors were the opposite. Petunia & Dudley had dark hair while Vernon was a sandy blonde. How many people got their knickers in such a twist over that that they felt compelled to either make RUclips videos about it or comment on such videos? How about Matthew Lewis having dark hair when the books say Neville has light hair? Did anyone bee-itch about that?
      I haven’t seen a single person complaining about actors not matching characters descriptions from the books unless it’s about skin tone. Hair, height, body build & even age can be wrong & most don’t say “Boo!” about it. But good god almighty if the actor/actress has a darker $kin tone than what they expect & the 💩 hits the fan. It’s truly pathetic.

    • @isabellesundberg5961
      @isabellesundberg5961 Месяц назад +1

      @@learobinson4450 What is “pathetic” is your odd assumptions and your way of attacking people who disagree with you that Snape should be black. Many people were actually bothered by those changes (me included)….The entire point of the new series was to keep the plot and details close to the book because people were bothered by the lack of details and changes to the plot.

  • @MCW-r3v
    @MCW-r3v Месяц назад +2

    Adam Driver would be the best fit for snape in my opinnion

  • @MatthewCounsell
    @MatthewCounsell Месяц назад +1

    Why has the world become like this? That we can't have a open non racist honestly conversation without worrying about being cancelled 😒

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад

      If you don’t agree with them, that’s the problem. Not facts or anything else. They will try to knock you down even when you make perfect sense

  • @blackfoxphotography7672
    @blackfoxphotography7672 24 дня назад +1

    Authors will have to start to describe their characters as white or black 😂 to stop this woke bs

  • @rayhouston2855
    @rayhouston2855 Месяц назад +1

    I'm a Potter fan since my Aunt told me about the Wizarding World and I'm a person of color as well. I was glad to hear the series would be faithful to the books and the description of every character in the book this will be interesting. Now with this latest report I disagree with this decision if this is true. This what happened with the Rings of Power Tolkien has descriptions of everything in Middle Earth. The cast is good but with list of mistakes in the story telling.

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад +1

      I disagree with the decision if it ends up being true but will watch anyways!!

  • @BlabberingCollector
    @BlabberingCollector Месяц назад +2

    Let's gooooo

  • @joannalarson2475
    @joannalarson2475 Месяц назад +6

    100% agree! With you!!!! Stay faithful to the books. JKR needs to be a part of it… it’s her world. She created it and the characters!!!

  • @mickyvalenz9959
    @mickyvalenz9959 Месяц назад +1

    Can’t wait for the Patel sisters to be played by Scandinavian sisters 😅

  • @KWTyDude
    @KWTyDude Месяц назад +2

    This is ridiculous if this is true then i will no longer bother watching the show

  • @MokaVT
    @MokaVT Месяц назад +1

    OMG at last an amazing opinion, just changing this could cause a lot of troubles in the story... because they will need to adapt lot of things... if not could turn really bad... can you imagine James Potter being R**ist? OMG!!!! that's not good
    So if they do that will not been faithful to the original source
    Is happening exactly what it happened with Hermione on the Harry potter play D:

  • @saklee1777
    @saklee1777 13 дней назад

    Jk Rowling even drew a picture of what she believed snape to look like and it looked nearly the exact same as Alan rickman as snape

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  13 дней назад

      Can I put this on a plaque?! Like YES!! Thank you for sharing what none of them want to acknowledge!!!

  • @spiderjockey2852
    @spiderjockey2852 19 дней назад

    I've heard this thing so many times that it bothers me seeing that it still gets referenced. Why does the fact that Dumbledoor yells that line to Harry bothers people?
    I get that its a meme and all but it actually bothers many even though the line is exactly the same compared to the books and the delivery of it changes absolutely nothing for the plot.
    There are many things in the movies that are not true to the books and people make so much fuss about the delivery of ONE line that IS book accurate.
    p.s. i do believe its a travesty to change the race of anyone in the series since the actors that portrayed them in the movies made who the character is. If we don't care about race why not make snape a woman too? If they want to diverge from the books they shouldn't name the movie "Harry Potter".

  • @heathrealestate3
    @heathrealestate3 21 день назад

    As an avid reader I agree 100% we’ve watched this movie in our heads don’t be wrecking it. JK already made things diverse…

  • @tootiredbeats1031
    @tootiredbeats1031 6 дней назад

    no no no we do not want HBO's DEI teams getting their grubby little hands ANYWHERE near this show, if that is the case I don't want to touch this show with a nine foot pole. Im sick of characters getting changed for the sake of 'diversity'. Character consistency is IMPORTANT to a characters identity regardless of changes made. That's why mickey MOUSE has stayed A MOUSE, black panther being black, or Garfield being a fat orange cat that likes lasagna. you get what im sayin here? if they wanted something different, MAKE YOUR OWN IP

  • @miguelr8096
    @miguelr8096 Месяц назад

    Keep it 💯 faithful to the books 📚 or “F” it. It matters. Love 💕 the books. Don’t care about any production interpretation changing characters. The movies have their value with minor faults. But it waste time and money pushing a new view or interpretation of the books is something I won’t watch. Just in case this is not a rumor, not curious about a different take on the books. Even from the author as CEO. 😏

  • @sppotterstark8057
    @sppotterstark8057 Месяц назад +1

    It's not confirmed
    Can people stop acting like it is ?
    They got time to get it right and give Essiedu a kick to the curb ( no offense - he's not Snape)

  • @ghoulgoil5029
    @ghoulgoil5029 Месяц назад +9

    You’re not wrong. 100% agree. Adam Driver would be perfect!

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад +4

      I think he would kill this role so hard!!!

    • @kuhkuhkayluh
      @kuhkuhkayluh Месяц назад +2

      I third this! I’ve had Adam Driver in my head for Snape since they announced it!

    • @diabloakland
      @diabloakland Месяц назад

      No. Adam Driver sucks too. I want a British actor. I won’t be bake to believe Adam in this role at all.

    • @therealjordankrane
      @therealjordankrane Месяц назад +1

      not a soul in the world would disagree with you... except for disney lol.

  • @jasuu354
    @jasuu354 Месяц назад +4

    Agree 100%

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад

      I’m so glad this video made a lot of people talk about the topic at hand

  • @ashleethomas2368
    @ashleethomas2368 23 дня назад

    It's the same thing with the dark tower... They had a character in the book who's a black paraplegic woman! How much more diverse can you get?! And you don't even have her in the movie at all!? WTF 😒 let's just change the main character, that looks like Clint Eastwood with a black man... And that movie tanked ... Horrible

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  23 дня назад +1

      I don’t think I’ve seen a movie that race swapped their characters and it’s actually done good so idk why Hollywood keeps trying to shove this down our throats

    • @ashleethomas2368
      @ashleethomas2368 20 дней назад

      @TheCollectingWizard search me lol no idea either mate! Thank you for making this video. Darn muggles wanna ruin everything lol 🤣

  • @Limebradley
    @Limebradley 24 дня назад

    It matters cuz he’s written whit snuff said don’t like it write your own shit

  • @dannyjulie4574
    @dannyjulie4574 Месяц назад

    Hopefully not... Just keep it true to the original.

  • @landonle9329
    @landonle9329 Месяц назад +2

    so cute hearing your daughter in the background

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад

      Ahaha thank you!! Yes I had to record a thought I had at the time so I put her on her chair and hit record lol

  • @SpookyBuddiesChannelForS-de7qr
    @SpookyBuddiesChannelForS-de7qr Месяц назад +1

    potion making class is now crack making class 💀💀

  • @diabloakland
    @diabloakland Месяц назад

    I actually don’t like this for many reasons. Esp bc Snape is a freaking weirdo creep and abusive to children and a stalker lmao??? I don’t like us POC being cast in these reboots. I’d rather us poc have our own stories???? And also, i don’t like us being cast as weirdo characters

  • @hooman6305
    @hooman6305 Месяц назад

    woke DEI

  • @lijahsampson6979
    @lijahsampson6979 Месяц назад

    If I had to describe book Snape in four words: “Sad, white angsty incel.” I don’t generally have a problem with race swapping characters for diversity, like it worked for Annabeth, little mermaid, etc. the actors killed it. But that’s because there was nothing inherent to their character that suggested they were white, and brought up with a white person perspective on the world. It’s about so much more than just the skin color he was described with in the book. I don’t really give a darned about that part. It’s the colorblind mindset that “we can just put in any race and it won’t change the character” part that I hate. Race isn’t just skin color. I would argue that Snape’s identity as a white man with sallow skin and greasy hair is part of what makes him the way that he is in the book, purely from a character perspective.

  • @noodlechild666
    @noodlechild666 Месяц назад +5

    Sallow does not mean pale. Black/darker skin tones can also be sallow.
    Sallow means unhealthy looking, dull, grey, or yellow.
    I have no issue with black people cast. I DO have an issue with how racist a large percentage of Harry Potter fans are.
    Nonso Anozie would be my choice to play Hagrid.

    • @lisaerk8487
      @lisaerk8487 Месяц назад +2

      Snape is also described as "white as marple" "white as sour milk" "his white fingers" and other variations of white faced. No one would use this kind of wording for a black character. NO ONE! Jkr has a selfdrawn drawing of him as a white man. She wanted alan rickman a white man and no one else to play snape. He is an ugly white man in the books! Its not racist to point that out. Raceswapping on the other side IS racist!

    • @BlabberingCollector
      @BlabberingCollector Месяц назад

      Yep yep yep race swapping of any kind is racist. ​@lisaerk8487

    • @isabellesundberg5961
      @isabellesundberg5961 Месяц назад +2

      In the fifth book, when Harry enters Snape’s memory in the Pensive, Snape is described as a pale plant that didn't get enough sunlight. Not wanting adaptations based on political correctness does not make someone a racist.

    • @learobinson4450
      @learobinson4450 Месяц назад +1

      Pale plants are usually a light grayish green. So going by the description you cited Snape should be played by a sickly Martian. You ok with that since it goes by the book?

    • @noodlechild666
      @noodlechild666 Месяц назад

      @@isabellesundberg5961 lol, imagine thinking a simile or metaphor is an accurate description of a persons appearance.
      Ive seen so many people relying on the word sallow to justify their racism, whilst clearly not understanding what it means. Like the person in the video, who said it means pale, when it absolutely does not.
      FYI, black people can also be pale and described as a 'pale plant that didn't get enough sunlight'.
      interesting how non of the white people rumoured to be potential options have faced such criticism, despite not one of them being book accurate one little bit.

  • @eddiehigginbotham1318
    @eddiehigginbotham1318 Месяц назад +2

    First, as mentioned, this is only a rumor and yet the need to jump and make this particular video is fascinating…
    It’s so wild the mental gymnastics that people are willing to do the convince themselves that they are not playing into racist, anti-black rhetoric.
    You are not absolved by a counter argument about making a black character white.
    Furthermore, your intention is also crystal clear as the “faithful adaptation” argument is only connected to the race of the character, granted there are many others that could have been discussed, along with a clickbait-y video title and photo.
    Also, the comments of “DEI nonsense” - wow - and “Holly woke” image 😒
    Wow. I’m deeply disappointed as PotterHead who looked up to you as a collector, admired your content, and even supported your side hustle.
    There was an alternative option: keeping this to yourself.
    But content at all costs I guess.
    Sad.
    Also - you are welcome: I’m leaving this comment and doing so while the ads play. Enjoy your ad cents… I hope it’s worth it.

    • @BlabberingCollector
      @BlabberingCollector Месяц назад +15

      dang. how do you not notice that DEI is actually real? a faithful adaption means hiring the correct actors for the job. which is what this video is about. trying to guilt him into thinking he is somehow racist for wanting to keep a chracter as accurate to the books is pretty awful behavior. Gaslighting someone who believes differently than you is a thing umbrdige did. fyi.

    • @Gryffin_Dad
      @Gryffin_Dad Месяц назад +5

      @@BlabberingCollector🙌 for the umbridge comparison 😂

    • @SiriuslyGonzie
      @SiriuslyGonzie Месяц назад +8

      Wow. Cancel culture is alive and well. I think most would agree that there was no malicious intent or racism in this video. This was someone sharing their opinion about something they are passionate about and explaining how the potential new actor doesn’t align with a previously established image of the character. To be honest, the malicious intent, hatred, and click bait is coming from this comment. Not the video.

    • @Gryffin_Dad
      @Gryffin_Dad Месяц назад +6

      The “faithful adaptation” argument is fully valid as it is being applied to one of the only things it can be at present. Once the show actually starts there will be far more content to hold to this standard. You’re attributing intent to his opinion which is not founded in fact, but in your assumption. It’s a logical fallacy.

    • @TheCollectingWizard
      @TheCollectingWizard  Месяц назад +8

      As a content creator, my job is to talk about top topics. That means news as this. Saying I should “keep this to myself” is an issue for me when it’s obviously a main topic everyone’s talking about. It almost sounds like you’re trying to silence me on what YOU don’t want me to say….Furthermore, trying to tell me you supported me but also wanting me to fit my content around what YOU deem good content is unrealistic. There will be videos you don’t like and videos you do. Obviously I’m open to conversations but not when you’re not open to the obvious elephant in the room which is this whole videos topic. Just read the comments and see it’s not just a wild thought I had. This is what many are feeling and it’s okay to have different opinions.

  • @smol9832
    @smol9832 Месяц назад

    Hagrid can be a black guy