American Tomahawk Model 2 ??? Better At Bushcraft/Survival/Tactical Than You Favorite Hatchet????
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I think it might be more useful to consider the Model 2 in the role of a traditional Norse belt axe, than an American tomahawk (which the Model 1 clearly is). The Norse belt axe was designed with more emphasis on wood processing tasks, while still remaining light and carryable, and very deadly as a weapon to have on you in the woods at all times. A little different than how tomahawks were used, but certainly with a fair bit of overlap as well. Personally, I consider the Model 2 to be more of a general woods tool, for situations where carrying a heavier axe isn't desirable.
Thanks for the solid review on this. You covered the good and bad quite nicely. I've been a fan of the CRKT Woods Chogan for this role, but I think this will find a place in my collection eventually...I'm definitely a fan of the RMJ line and own a couple in addition several of their collaborations...may as well add another one!
thank you for the efforts u put into ur productions/reviews.over the years I realised that u genuinely provide needed content.i love ur honesty and look forward to ur next video. God bless
HEY dude, i luv your videos!...and i just bought the model 1 ...can't wait to take it to my camp!...also got the new buck alpha hunter pro!...both should be comming next week.
Nice to see you live in a place where you can carry a gun on your hip. You wouldn't believe what we have to go through to do that in Canada. I'd like to see the person who says "See that guy smashing stuff with a tomahawk? I'm gonna go over there and mess with him."
Dang, I have the model 1. Looks like the model 2 would be more useful for my needs. As I believe you identified, a purpose built hatchet would give more efficiency with a better designed handle and head. But in the end I’m glad you pointed out the virtues of the model 1. Though I have not found a zombie yet, I have actually stuck it in a tree unlucky enough to be near camp a time or two.
i like the comparison between model 1 and 2. i was leaning toward a no. 2 bc of the poll but now i am not sure, i can see the use of the spike more and more.
I really like this model 2 and have been waiting for a review. Thanks Gideon for your effort. Cant decide between the model 2 and the United cutlery bushmaster bearded axe.
Great video. Love the information you give us. It's a good looking tomahawk. However for the price I think that I can go with a more budget friendly option.
But keep on giving us the great gear reviews. 👍
this morning I was just thinking when is Gideonstactical going to look at the model 2
And boom there it is! 😀 what are your thoughts on my conclusion?
@@gideonstactical Totally agree - great review. Keep up the awsome reviews. Also check out the new Joker Knives Nessmuk Sabre Grind!
Seems like a solid hawk. I definitely prefer a more dedicated woods hawk. I've had and used the CKRT woods chogan for over 7 years now. The steel may not be of the same quality and comes with a duller edge, but a little elbow grease and it's ready to go. One thing I do like about the hammer pull design, when splitting larger logs, I'll use a good heavy baton and strike the hammer pull to drive the head into the log. I've split some pretty good sized logs around 5-8 inch diameter logs doing it that way. I know an axe or a splitting maul works better, but in the bush, the hawk will be the only "axe" I have so that method works well. Definitely easier than using a large knife to baton, but also saves the knife blade for other tasks.
I’ve used and abused and thrown the absolute hell out of my $30 SOG tomahawk. I’m sure this will make a great upgrade. Can’t wait to throw this thing, if a $30 tomahawk can withstand years of being thrown. I’m sure this thing will do everything I’ve ever needed & more.
The skinny handle and small eye are a big bummer. For me the smaller diameter handles add fatigue from over gripping with much more than a few minutes use and the head will rotate on impact often. The small amount of handle to head interface looks like a fail point as well. The design looks really nice.
My go to is the Woodsman’s Pal - gotten me out of some pickles I can tell you. Chops woods, shaves and strips, and can safe your life.
G'day Aaron, leaving the price aside, I'd say a good tool, but not particularly compelling. Since I always carry a saw, splitting is the other key capability I need.
Could perhaps work well paired with a large knife, machete or other tool that excels at splitting.
If I did have one of these, I'd be looking to wrap the handle in some way, shape or form, maybe with a couple of layers of heat shrink tubing.
With the bolt on design, I assume the handle could be replaced with timber in the field ?
In any case, another fair and honest review mate. Cheers Duke.
Gerber Hatchet is all I need. I've carried it everywhere, used the hell out of it and it keeps working 8 years later. I have alot of other models but this is always my go to...
Which one?
I would like to have one of these but I think they cost far more than they should.the only tomahawk I own is the Estwing black eagle which is pretty awesome and it has a $40 price tag..this might be a better tomahawk than my Estwing but not enough so to warrant spending 6 times as much money on it
I like the model 2 the best. Having a hammer pole I think is more useful to me than a spike as a wood processing tool. I have and use the Woods Chogan by CRKT . I would put my life on it if I had to.
great, honest review... appreciate your thoughts at the end
Thanks for watching!
I have both the Mod 1 and 2. Love the Mod 2. Chops like a beast. It has a spot in my rotation. The Mod 1 does not. It doesn't do anything better than my GFB, Helko, or Council hatchets though… especially for the price. If you’ve got the extra cash, it’s great.
Please show us your handgun you have on!! What caliber ,Ammo, make,model ,holster, and why you choose them.
Good review!
While throwing can be fun, from a defensive standpoint, it's ill-advised. First, you might not get a hit. Second, you're throwing your weapon away and giving your opponent an advantage. Third, you very well could render your tool worthless as well as making it dangerous to use. Fourth, you're throwing your weapon away.
You need to have proficiency and have the confidence that you will hit your target. If not, don’t throw it.
Have you tried the crkt woods chogan,if so how would you compare this to the chogan?
Nice tomahawk! Great review 👍
I really really like this both as a tool and for "opponent processing " (stealing that lol) I prefer a hammer to a spike. Hammers don't get stuck in the processes.
love too see a review of a winkler tomahawk!
Even for American made, if those Americans aren't making it out of like, actual gold or studding it with jewels or something, there's absolutely NO excuse for it to cost that much. The materials are not that expensive. I can get 5 American made Estwing hatchets, or a couple of them each with custom kydex sheaths for the price of this one hawk.
They lean really hard on their name. Not worth it imo unless you just have money to blow on hawks. I'll take a Gransfors Bruks.
Do you ever baton with your tomahawk? If so, would this one hold up to that abuse, or would the head be rattling around very quickly?
Not bad at all. I don't honestly expect any tool to Excel at processing Mesquite. It's basically rock wood. But this did pretty good
Looks a lot like the Cold Steel Trail Hawk, but with the added beard. I'll stick with Cold Steel - maybe mod a Rifleman's Hawk to have a similar shape as this.
Whilst the first version defiantly tasks better to a urban scenario, this one surly hits more of a woodscraft note.
I will stay with my Cold Steel Frontier Hawk 🤔 has a perfect Grip, never flying out of my hands or wants to, and the price is much more acceptable 😅 and I like the classic look tbh...
Good morning and happy new year Aaron.
Wassup early squad?
Seems like I’m a little bit late, but I’m doing great. how are you?
3:27 good tool to have in case you're accosted by any trees while camping.
I’m waiting for the green handled version.
Way too expensive! Looks kind of like a Cold Steel Trail Hawk with an extended beard, but at over 5x the cost. I think the Trail Hawk even bites deeper during a chop probably due to the narrower blade profile. I usually use a large knife to split and chop wood anyhow. Thank you Aaron for another excellent review.
You admit to batoning with a knife on the Internet? Run! Hide! The bushcraft and boomer know-it-alls will be coming for you! Remember, they've carried knives (4" max) in the woods for 30 thousand years and never needed to baton.
@@DL-ij7tf better to be silent and thought a fool. Then open your mouth and prove that true.
@@richardhenry1969 It's "and remove all doubt.", fool.
Yeah im with you. 250 for a hand axe is ridiculous. Honestly. American made or not.
What about the SOG SurvivalHawk? I have one.
What gun are u holstering in this vid?
Cool hawk. A little on the high end. Convex grind. Very cool. It would be awesome if you could do something for field sharpening a convex grind. I have a hatchet that I did the folding towel method but ya need a vise. I also have the Joker Nomad, another convex grind. So the question is how to sharpen a convex grind at home and in the field. Thanks for considering. Awesome hawk. Someday maybe.
Ive found that using a lansky puck (fine side-about 400 grit) while holding the axe and then later clamping the axe in a bench vise and use a benchstone (whatever you like, i used a 1000 grit arkansas stone) and do the towel method, just without the towel. Or you could use a the slack part of a belt on a belt sander.
Worksharp field sharpener. For both if you want. Leather strop on the back preloaded with compound.
This one looks good. Maybe a little longer handle, maybe.
yeah a fiskars hatchet would beat it every day
I tried the whole hawk thing years back. For My extreme outdoors use I prefer a pack axe which I carry the Council Tools woodcraft patch axe at the moment. I want to be able to fell trees ,split logs, and have a tool that can even build a Cabin if need Be. Hawks are kool, but no Serious Woodsman or Pioneer would carry such a light Tool with so much limitations 👍💯
The Cold Steel Rifleman's Hawk is a good option for that mentality, which I share. It has a fairly long handle and very heavy head with a hammer on the back. It's pretty useful as a small axe. There's always that background capability that the head can come off and be used as a knife of sorts and that a new handle could be made if one breaks. The sacrifice is a small round handle (to fit through the eye) so it isn't contoured like a proper axe handle. Even that can my handle to slide into a pack/straps.
@@DL-ij7tf sorry Boss , I have spent too Many years in the Woods with about every tool ever produced. It's best feature is it's ( light weight) and small. a light weight small Hawk is comparable to a Hatchet..... Not a pack axe. If I was to carry a hawk it would mainly be to do small projects and like the Man said , used to split small diameter logs . It would be great for hiking , not living in the Bush 👍
I agree, and in terms of most hawks which are much smaller, I don't see much point other than as a weapon. Which I think was their original design. A midsized axe or a heavy knife or machete are more useful and versatile.
Yep. Tomahawks can replace a large chopping knife or hatchet. They are not a replacement for an axe.
@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 most Hawks can't do what a good Hatchet can 👍
you should check out 2 hawks tomahawks there pretty good hawks
I really like my Model 1 so no need for this option. But the look is on point.
I agree that the Model 1 is excellent. What do you think about the conclusion? Given the choice all over again would you go model 1 or model 2?
Tomahawks are cool, but I believe you can't beat a good chopper - it's more versatile.
It kind of pisses me off how expensive hawks are…. Im just gonna buy a cs rifleman’s hawk and call it a day
check out H&B forge good tomahawk not as expensive as the American tomahawk companie but a little more than the cold steel
Dear ATC, M1 spike M2 beard 16 inch handle. M3?
Nice review Sir.
So is it more like a "tactical" Tomahawk with a carpenter inspired head? Wish they would have contoured the back of the handle just ever so slightly. I get that it's a lot easier to just machine a straight pipe. But I take functionality over looks 99% of the time.
I definitely think a hammer pole is much more useful in woodscraft areas than a spike. Digging? Use a digging stick!
I think I'll just keep relying on my Wetterlings and Hults Bruk ...
I like it but......I would like a handle that's a little longer.
That would be sweet!
Looks good, but, my US 1942 Plumb can do all that woodcraft. Would rather buy a Bruks for $100 less and better steel or a BarkRiver custom bruks for 200 . Still a good hawk for ppl if they got 💰to throw around 🤷♂️
Estwing hawk works fine.
Badass!!!!!
I was ready to order until you got to the price.
1060 head with a nylon handle should be under $100.
Not sure about that, any Swedish hatchet is going to be around $100-$150 and the kydex sheath allow would be $75 if you had some make a custom one like to for your hatchet. If the price was close to the model 1 $190 that would be a good sweet spot.
I believe you can edit (your) heading in real time without having to re-upload the entire video. 🙂
Love the head, not the handle.
Nope . At this price you can buy a good hatchet , a fixed blade , and a power bank. And you have some dollars left for fuel.
Hahaha yes.
I knew the price to performance would be a big factor. Understand the logic for sure.
@@andrewpandrew5809 no. Scandinavian let's say. Hultafors for example, with 200 years of history or Hults Bruck with 325, years , or Fiskars from 1649...
I have to say the mod 1 isnt a True tomahawk. That is the Vietnam design. Which is a good tool/weapon. More “real” tomahawks had just a strap of metal wrapping around the handle as the pole. Simple there were many “pipe” styles & other styles. But it also depends on what you are meaning when you say traditional.
Nice, but way overpriced for 1060. Too many other quality options out there. That are also made in the USA
A sub $20 carpenter's hatchet, with the nail puller grinded away to give it a bearded blade, and paired with a 17" hickory handle will serve you just as well. Look up the Beaver Creek Woodcraft Chicken Hawk for reference. Some of the older carpenter hatchets have nice cheeks in their blade design which make chopping really fun.
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Extremely expensive, but at least it's built here in the U.S.A
The reason I use a T-hawk than a hatchet is that I can remove the head for packing. And I cannot do this with Model 2. Might as well carry a proper hatchet.
So it's not a throwing T-hawk, does not process wood as well as a hatchet, and it's not as packable as a T-hawk. And the price. I feel it's tries too hard to do many thing and ends up short of what a T-hawk suppose to be.
It's held on by a bolt. Why can't you remove it?
@@nothim7321 Old skool T-hawk head is slotted into the handle.
@@1968gadgetyo they are not slotted on a trad hawk at all, they use a taper fit to keep the head from flying off the top as you swing it. In most I have used, (cold steel) they come loose after a couple swings or use a bolt on the side to increase the tightness. Which eats the crap out the handle with heavy use.
The only real issues I have with this or the model 1 is that the handles are short and slick.
@@nothim7321 I have no issues with CRKT T hawk
Tomahawk😄😄😄😄
Would you recommend it?.
As I said in the video, no I preferred the Model 1 or a dedicated hatchet.
I like it but no tomahawk is worth much more than 100$.
If they were to drop the price on the mod2 and offer a package deal for both then people would buy both myself included or just do a short sale
My coldsteel hawks all together cost less then that. I also like how easy it is to replace my handle.
I really think they are incredibly overpriced.
M249 from united cutlery, had it since 2002, cuts a melon just as well, goes grouch one real nice too, I didn't have to blow almost $300.00 it comes in at a reasonable $60.00 you got to ask yourself what kind of @$$hole drops that kind of money on something that may very well become lost in the woods one day? If we're talking durability my Eastwing tomahawk was ruin over by a gen 1 hummer and it's still looks new. Cost a little over $100.00.
While I can definitely respect the design of this, I just can’t see any rational way to justify the price based on performance alone. There has to be a Nutnfancy 2nd Kind of Cool thing going on, otherwise it doesn’t make sense. My $30 Fiskars X7 will out chop that thing all day long, hammer harder, and is just as if not more durable. And in the ~$200 price range, you’re looking at full-sized axes from Gransfors. I just can’t see a way to justify the price for me.
But thank you very much for the video, it really is appreciated, dude. 👍
Prices like this, and I'll be learning to make my own. Ill never pay that much.
a tomahatchet.
1060 steel? Lol... Weak.. we're all going to Magnacut now.
Please feel free to link any tomahawk that's currently using MagnaCut that is not a five or $600 custom at minimum
Imagine making a tomahawk and then telling people not to use. It's a fucking tomahawk its meant to be thrown into things. Stick to better companies folks. Besides you're better of with wood handle u can replace for cheap or even build in emergency situation. Cough..Cough CRKT or Cold Steel. Best of the best by far.
Waaaaayyyyy too much moola!!!!!
Because a hammer is way more useful than a brain spike most of the time..
A 50$ hatchet will get the same work done. Cool hawk, crappy price.
The price is on the high end, but you are getting excellent American made hawk. I am not aware of anyone else doing that.
You think this is expensive? You should check out the Eagle Talon, the Shrike, or the Kestrel. There's more pricier RMJ stuff out there.
Over $200 for a hawk a can't throw, a woods axe that doesn't split, and a handle I can't replace myself? What is happening?
Holy wow $$$, expected to see maybe a $60 price point. The way the head is attached just seems so cringe worthy all around, especially for throwing, twisting in wood or prying.
I've thrown my model one over 2000 times into targets without any loosening of the head.
First to answer that....No, it is not better than mine.
Nope not for me
I'll buy it; an Islamist or a Marxist would be proud to meet their demise at the hands of a patriot wielding this weapon.
That price is just ABSURD! You've lost all credibility with us.
I mean, just go to a yard sale and grab a $3 hatchet. Sharpen it and use it for the rest of your life.
I'm using a hatchet I bought at a garage sale in about 1979. We don't need $240 hatchets.
Nope.
Too bad about the bad slippery handle fail. Seems like they would fix that obvious bad design. I guess the American Tomahawk Company was too busy trying to take my family's money. And forgot about handle design. I'll definitely pass. Rip- off.
Cool looking toy but huge waste of money imo. Pittsburgh hatchet from Harbor Freight. Made in USA, lifetime warranty, $13..all day!
I’ve never seen any thing in harbor freight made in usa
@@knuckles-3386 fair point. Pretty sure my hatchet was made in India, turns out. Ah well, thank God the workers are if nothing else!
Round haft = ABSOLUTELY NOT !!!
It's oval