I don't normally leave comments on here....but i reached out to this dude and he gave me the time of day that isn't normal anymore. Has the wisdom, knowledge, and patience to get most folks through a golf carts ignition system over the phone. Also does what he says he's gonna do. Use his services! He's worth it! Thank you Nick!!
I'm so glad things worked out for you. I help people because there was a day back when I was a young man and I was struggling and no one would reach out to help me.
Very much appreciate the info. The figures for the coil and igniter are in K ohms though. In other words thousands of ohms. Your meter will convert automatically from ohms to K ohms so it's easy to not notice the little K
Thanks SO much. ignighter from JD is around $80. Far cheaper elsewhere. I always begin by testing the cheapest components first... they’re cheap because they’re cheaply made. When they inflate the price it’s difficult to know where to start. Can’t tell you how much I appreciate this. Thanks again.
Thanks so much. I saw from another video that I probably had either a faulty igniter or rev limiter. So I bought both and neither one fell into the readings that you have posted. But I did check the old igniter and it read 2.94. So I cut the limiter wire and removed it and put the old igniter back in and it started right up. So it not only saved me 67.00, but if I would have installed the new parts, it probably wouldn't have started and then I would have thought it was the coil. So the video not only saved me some money but a lot of aggravation too. Can't tell you how elated I was. Very impressive! And it also shows that just because they are new doesn't always mean they are good.
many times I needed just some sound advice and was turned away. Happy to have saved time and a little money. keep up on your cart . Visit Mid Michigan Golf Cart Repair on Facebook . View some other tips.Its new. Thank you again . Nick Cooper.
@@Contractorrepair mine has no igniter and it was running, it just quit like turning key off! I removed the black box in front the brown wire was cut already it’s a newer cart but has fe290d engine
@@lawnmowerman4040 OK that means they have eliminated using the rev limiter second there is a wire White with a blue line in it right near your dipstick if this thing is wired from the factory. Unplug that and turn it over and see if it starts in safety mode which means the little cam that yellow behind the Ford in reverse switch you should be able to grab it pull it out turn it 180° and let it go back in and that should put you in safe mode so that you can start the engine without worrying if it’s in forward or reverse. Call me 989 395 0913
@@lawnmowerman4040 your ignition coil has one wire coming out of it if you have no igniter which means that it’s a high energy coil which is an upgrade the black wire that comes out from the engine back pan the wire comes from the coil out through that back pan down where are your Revlimid was and then goes over to the white wire with a blue stripe in it and there should be like a quick connect there. So we have the white wire with the blue line in our hands and we’ve disconnected it from the ignition coil we want to try to roll the engine over and make sure it has spark if at that point you do not have spark it is time to replace the coil. You can remove it and then use the test procedures from the video. Sometimes the black wire will rub and vibrate at the back pain small hole with the wire goes through and it goes short, which goes to Ground when we don’t want it to. This is all on the premises that you have lost spark
Thanks for the video. I picked up a rev limiter to try and put on a small engine that doesn't have one. My wire with the ring is red. I'll give this a try.
Thankyou very much indeed. Our cart is located on a remote island( Google Keats island if you wish) . I have the rev limiter on my kitchen table at home. As I brought it back with me. I will save you comments and as soon as I get back on the island will try the rest you told me about. Sometimes we just go with an arm full of parts and try everything because to go back and forwards in the boat takes hours. Thank you
This video is so helpful but I am still struggling to figure out what is going on with my 2003 club car ds. Is there any way that I could contact you direct to see about helping me out with this problem? Thanks. Jeff.
And just to be perfectly honest some carts the rev limiter’s been relocated out in front of the motor to the crossmember frame so follow the wire coming off of that back in behind the plate it was properly mounted to and it will run into the igniter behind the plate I described
The igniter bolts right behind the rev limiter. After removing the rev limiter brown wire 10mm bolt it sparked again so I cut the black line right next to the male plug in your picture & just left the short black part connecting the coil to the igniter. No rev limiter used now. Goes good again.I used a mirror to see what I was doing.You cant just disconnect the wire from the coil going down to the rev limiter. It needs the small igniter box as well.I have no high voltage to charge the battery as well .Thats the Voltage regulator at fault.
@lomasck correct just the ground wire from the rev limiter to regain spark. Should replace it as well, it protects your motor from over reving the RPMs .
Thanks. Pulled rev limiter and tested for resistance. Just getting OL reading. Doing something wrong? Put a new one on and it ran well until other new fuel pump got clogged.
First off, excellent video. I love your explanation. Second, thank you for including the Ohm ranges. Finally, I have a question regarding a golf cart in my shop right now. It has the FE290D-AS17 engine on it. When it came in, the guy said it was getting no spark. He had replaced the battery at the end of last season, and it just sat all winter. He kept the battery in doors and periodically charged it, so all good there. I put the battery in on Saturday, and it takes right off with no problems at all. Monday comes, and with it comes the rain. I hop on to move it into a sheltered area, and it won't budge. I pushed it under the awning and called the guy to let him know. I got around to checking yesterday, and it has VERY weak spark. Is that an indication that the RPM Limiter is going, or should I look elsewhere?
Coil 's if they have a small breach in there sealed housing can take on water causing corrosion . this can increase resistance and weaken the spark. by removing your brown wire from ground on the rev limiter and the spark returns to normal ohm you Rev limiter it may be failing. if not and there is no change get ready to change out the coil.
Where does the black and white wire from the coil goto? Mechanic installed killswitch years ago and wire broke. I cant find where it was hooked. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance
I know where two of the comports are located.but I am unable to locate the igniter. I think I might have the fe 350 motor. So that why I am unable to locate an igniter. I already changed the coil. And it was a pain just like you said. Thankyou.
fe350 has a ignition coil that has a built-in igniter. no separate igniter on it. ohm the Rev limiter and then . do too test 1. unplug white wire with black stripe coming from wiring harness from the rear engine area. roll over , spark comes back check micro switch in the black odd shaped box with throttle cable in it. 2. disconnect brown wire on Rev limiter after reconnecting white with black stipe. if your spark returns replace Rev limiter. now if both test are done still no spark 3. check spark plug wire at the end of plug wire where the cap that goes to spark plug end. then can become corroded. still no spark . Replace coil . If in a presedence. drop rear springs only the back end of springs from shackle remove any thing that may prevent the rear end from coming don't . it will drop low enough you can get muffler bracket off and remove shroud cover to engine to get to the coil. 3 hrs from start to finish.
I’m getting a reading of like 32 ohms when I test the limiter. I have no spark unless I unplug that white/black wire to the bullet connector. When that is unplugged I get good spark. If I keep that connected but unhook the brown terminal, I still have no spark. I’m getting reading of 4 ohms for igniter.
Unplugging the white wire with blue strip. This eliminates the key switch , micro switch in black triangle box . You run system keeping the run open there is some thing creating a short . Call me at 989 395 0913
Hey guys there’s been some question as to where our igniter is located on our carts there is a mounting plate that the Revlimiter black box straps to just below the front of the motor located behind the plate that the rebel limiter is located when equipped with an igniter it bolts on from the backside.If you could get down there and look you’re going to see a small fine threaded screw coming out to you right behind that is where the tab on the igniter bolts to. I hope this helps
see the wire at the bottom of the video . that's to remove and it should run .but see the igniter there the small tab that wire leading to it must be hooked to it.
I know this is an old video but I just got my first cart. It's a 87vor 88 I think. It's getting weak and intermittent spark. And other times it's great spark and runs fine other then a back fire. Any idea??
Adjust the valves to start with. Then check the end of the plug wire at its connector and look for either wires that have or are not making contact with the plug end. Then goes to the brown wire coming off the Rev limiter ( black square box lower of the valve cover down in front of the motor. The brown wire will be connected to a bolt. This bolt grounds the Rev limiter. Unbolt it, let it hang free strat and run. See, at this point, we have checked to see if we have a good connection where we need it, and with brown wire off, we are checking the Rev limiter for intermittent failure. If your engine stops, miss firing we have found the issue . A Rev limiter, if it fails, literally shuts down the spark in the event you engines RPM are to great . This Rev limiter saves the engine from taking out your govenor.so we want to ensure this Rev limiter is functional at the right time. The backfire is a traight of a loss of spark at some point . Following what's above, we isolate why. After this we then check all wiring near the Rev limiter and see if the black wire running into the fly wheel area may have worn the coating off it and is it shorting the coil out intermittently . I lift the rear of the cart wheels off the ground and shut off all the light and watch for arcing.neear that area.
@@Contractorrepair thanks so much for responding. You the man! Went out sanded all grounds and every connector I could find. Still just weak to no spark. Disconnected the rpm limiter something. Got annoyed came back little later and turned key and had great spark. Drove it around till I got bored back fired 2 or 3 times when letting of off gas. I don't know how I can have spark randomly and not have it others. You don't have to respond don't want to waste your time just confused lol. Again thanks for the response.
Great video!! I’ve been looking all over RUclips for help. I’m having a problem with my 02 DS, it works fine some days. Randomly weather the cart is hot or cold I start the cart and when I push pedal to go, it revs a little like it wants to go then immediately kills rpm, and when the problem is happening it idles weird. Any advice please would be much appreciated! Thanks from Australia
If there’s a brown wire coming off of your black square box rev limiter remove it from its 10 mm bolt that grounds at two make it operate remove the brown wire. If you regain spark replace the rev limiter. That’s the cheapest way to start. After that follow the ohm schedule in the video for your igniter because that’s your next step. After that you wanna make sure if the igniter ohms are in correct it’s time to get down into the coil area under the shroud. Make sure you have plenty of time to cope with the shroud pulling it off. And then follow up with me once you find out what you have.
@@Contractorrepair thank you soo much for replying! I will definitely respond with a follow up. The cart is on-site at a job site right now. It’s actually a 07 DS carry all 6 I use it for work at events. Thanks again I will follow your troubleshooting steps and come back to you.
If yours was not plugged in and the unit does run.It's because someone has changed.The coil or pick up coil at the flywheel.And it is now in that coil your system has been converted. That being said , if it didn't start and run and what's unplugged , there's only one Leave, that would be exposed.Just hanging there, not plugged in right.Any further issues?Call me after four thirty michigan time 9893950913 nick
I replaced my coil pack on my club car ds with cheapo. Works fine until parked for 10+ mins. The coil pack has no spark,I notice if I put a spark tester between the spark plug and coil pack and ground it to the engine it starts sparking and working again until parked. Would this be a faulty coil I bought or maybe the rev limiter? Golf cart repair please help. I also ran a ground lead from battery to engine thinking it was the ground still nothing.
Go to the spark plug wire at the end with a cap is I want you to ensure that the brass screw is up into the wiring of the spark plug wire. Then take the ground wire off of the rev limiter that is brown tan and color just remove it from its 10 mm screw there and then I want you to do 5 time start it run it for 2 minutes and turn it off then I want you to put the brown wire back onto ground and do the test again now if it fails it's your rev limiter if it continues to run no problem your issue was in your lead wire at the cap not making good connection. Now if doing all of this doesn't help at all I want you to go to the coil again find the kill wire that comes out through the Shroud area and check and make sure that it's connection to the harness is correct. If you have an F E 290 ohm out the igniter. If it's an fe350 it will not have an igniter. Keep me updated
@@Contractorrepair okay as soon as i took the brown wire off it started with spark on the tester. Started 5 times turned off for 2 minutes. Connected brown wire and it still runs and gets spark. What do you mean by the lead ground on the cap. Are you saying the brown wire isnt grounded good enough? Usually when it wouldnt start back up it would take about 10 mins of sitting.
@@StutlaProduction we are either dealing with a Temp issue causing a failure. Rev limiter brown wire off just aliminates the Rev limiters operation . If brown wires connected and no spark there is a direct short. a Rev limiter basically calculates the RPMs coming from the coil that being said if it reaches 4000 RPMs it will make the spark go to direct ground. If you were having a unit that has periodic Spark that goes away and returns no matter what the time frame is what is important is when do you lose Spark. If the unit is cold and you start the machine up and it runs for let's say 10-15 minutes fails to continue in operation by losing spark while the engine is running this indicates that a temperature issue on the coil causing it to go too short as if it was like someone shut the key off. Sitting for a little while unit cooling down and then turning your key and it starting back up I would search at all components but they must be hot such as at the time of failure remove the brown wire if it starts up as soon as you remove that brown wire then you know the rev limiter has got a temperature issue and failing under Heat being the unit is most likely bolted near the engine in my past experience I take and butt connect extension wires to the black and brown wires and relocate a new rev limiter just out to the frame of the cart to prevent heat build-up. I know what you're asking me is which component is failing, but you need a OHM tester on your multimeter to check at the time of failure. Your ignition coil itself just bolts into the engine area it's black lead wire that comes off through the shroud to test at failure disconnect this lead and really start unit if it starts it'd not the coil.
@@randyhilton1592 if you have any question do not hesitate to call. 989 395 0913. Text me , let me know it’s you then call me after 4:00 pm michigan time. Nick.
It does not , the igniter acts like a capacitor. Your voltage regulator comes off of your starter generator leads into the black box. It regulates the power that comes off of the surge generator and ensures that you have a sufficient amount of voltage in your battery for the next time, the engine startsand keeps it charged as you use accessories like lights etc. that would draw off of the battery. An igniter is in your start and run system which is separate. If you need more information and you’re able to you can call me it’s 989-395-0913 ask for Nick.
To describe it a little better inside the black box weird throttle control is just behind your seat. That’s where the vultures regulator would normally sit down in there, so the starter motor is two phase it first turns the engine over at a certain RPMs when the engine itself starts up it converts into what they call a alternator/generator. It delivers power down to the voltage regulator, and that determines how many volts are put into your battery most the time you want to provide more than 12 V some run 13.5 and up to 14.75. It all depends on the strength. I have seen the mounted outside where someone had removed it and then mounted it outside the black box somewhere it’s about a 3“ x 3“ square flat with one hole right through the center of of it that mounts to the bottom of the plastic box the black plastic box.
I am trying to check my Rev-Limiter for an OHM reading and i cant get a reading, does that mean that the Rev-Limiter is bad? the iginiter reads 4.45 OHM.
@@Contractorrepair when i put the meter on to check it the screen doesn't change. i just purchased this cart last month it ran good then it just wouldnt start, electric motor is starting but the gas motor is not starting, im getting fuel just seems like im not getting spark, the brown wire was already disconnected.
@@Contractorrepair i replaced the coil with a 97' coil with built in igniter and i still have no spark , i checked the kill wire and when i turn the key on and push the pedal down there is no ground, but when i check for ground on the coil where the kill wire plugs into it seems to be grounded, is that susposto be like that? i have also purchaced a new rev limiter. still no spark. can someone please help
When I take the dead man switch wire off of the ignition coil it runs great but will not start with dead man switch wire connected to the coil as it shouldbe, what do you think the problem would be?
ok. you need to make sure the wire " Brown coming off the rev limiter is in fact the wire. sounds as if the wire coming off the igniter is what is the issue . in pet the wires black coming from the engine area to the coil . brown comes from the rev limiter. this wire Brown just bolts as a ground just lower the rev limiter with that 10 mm bolt . the igniter it located back behind and is the size of end of you middle finger.
Hi can. Anyone help me I have a 1992 club car ds fe 290 engine I changed the ignition coil 2 years ago with one with the self igniter in the instructions it stated only clock wise direction engine , mine is anti clock wise no spark the right way round, but sparks the wrong way round it’s ran for 2 years and now has died any reason for this? Rpm limiter disconnected
Yes the rev-limiter is probably disconnected, because it is either defective, or someone didn't know what they were doing. If you have a meal emanated the igniter. And you have installed a coil that has an igniter in it combo. You must get the correct coil pickup directions. Your cart what direction does it crank over to the left or to the right when looking at the flywheel
Your gator will have a Governor and a throttle stop. Your ignition coil will have some type of a high energy ignition which means built into the coil. That coil grounds to the engine block, and will have a lead wire that comes off do your ignition one wire. Don’t confuse them with wires coming from magneto which generates power as an alternator to run lights or recharge the battery. Are you having spark issues. Inspect the lead wire from the coil coming up to the spark plug. If yours is not a molded endcap it may unscrew off the lead wire coming from the coil up to the spark plug sometimes they get corroded. Trim back 1/4 inch of the wire and reinstall the endcap if it does screw down in with a barbed copper styled threaded end. What’s going on with the unit itself
Igniter if it has one will be located behind the rev limiter mounting plate. So if we look and find no igniter your cart has a ignition coil that has one built into it. What year is your cart ?
@@Contractorrepair so I will be replacing the rev limiter today because of weak spark. Hopefully that is my issue . Any way of knowing a year or model of these club cars?
@@Contractorrepair have already ordered rev l. Going to install once it is delivered. Just curious for future purchases. But if this doesn't work. You would expect it to be internal like the coil?
I'm out of work at 5 call me at 1 989 395 0913 later tonight . I'll help you. I was frustrated as hell years ago trying to figure this out . I'm sure it's the same for you. Nick Cooper
Rev. Limiter is OL COIL primary 8ohms secondary 1.4 ohms Didn’t get to the igniter. What are the chances that’s bad too? Club car runs for an hour then shuts off. Won’t turn over. Nothing. Few hours later she’s running again.
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I don't normally leave comments on here....but i reached out to this dude and he gave me the time of day that isn't normal anymore. Has the wisdom, knowledge, and patience to get most folks through a golf carts ignition system over the phone. Also does what he says he's gonna do. Use his services! He's worth it! Thank you Nick!!
I'm so glad things worked out for you. I help people because there was a day back when I was a young man and I was struggling and no one would reach out to help me.
I just would like to say I have not forgotten about you or this problem.
I just haven't got to my remote cabin now in 3 months.
Thankyou
It's all good contact me when you can
I just want to say a public thankyou to this gentleman and his video.
I contacted him and took time to help me in the very way I needed.
Thank you.
This vid should have million views,thanks man! Perfect answers that I’ve searched for for a looonnng time!
Very much appreciate the info. The figures for the coil and igniter are in K ohms though. In other words thousands of ohms. Your meter will convert automatically from ohms to K ohms so it's easy to not notice the little K
This video was extremely helpful . To bad I found it after digging in myself. Ended up being a bad coil. One heck of a job in a club cart.
This is a very good video how to troubleshoot these components and the progression of checking. I’ll be working on mine tomorrow thanks.
Thanx So Much..!! I'm just getting into a 2000 Club Car Gas and I'm "Learning Before Burning"..!! Thanx Again..!!
Thanks SO much. ignighter from JD is around $80. Far cheaper elsewhere. I always begin by testing the cheapest components first... they’re cheap because they’re cheaply made. When they inflate the price it’s difficult to know where to start.
Can’t tell you how much I appreciate this. Thanks again.
You are welcome .
you are correct. Sorry It took so long to reply.
Nick.
Thanks so much. I saw from another video that I probably had either a faulty igniter or rev limiter. So I bought both and neither one fell into the readings that you have posted. But I did check the old igniter and it read 2.94. So I cut the limiter wire and removed it and put the old igniter back in and it started right up. So it not only saved me 67.00, but if I would have installed the new parts, it probably wouldn't have started and then I would have thought it was the coil. So the video not only saved me some money but a lot of aggravation too. Can't tell you how elated I was. Very impressive! And it also shows that just because they are new doesn't always mean they are good.
many times I needed just some sound advice and was turned away. Happy to have saved time and a little money. keep up on your cart . Visit Mid Michigan Golf Cart Repair on Facebook .
View some other tips.Its new.
Thank you again .
Nick Cooper.
@@Contractorrepair mine has no igniter and it was running, it just quit like turning key off! I removed the black box in front the brown wire was cut already it’s a newer cart but has fe290d engine
@@lawnmowerman4040 OK that means they have eliminated using the rev limiter second there is a wire White with a blue line in it right near your dipstick if this thing is wired from the factory. Unplug that and turn it over and see if it starts in safety mode which means the little cam that yellow behind the Ford in reverse switch you should be able to grab it pull it out turn it 180° and let it go back in and that should put you in safe mode so that you can start the engine without worrying if it’s in forward or reverse. Call me 989 395 0913
@@lawnmowerman4040 your ignition coil has one wire coming out of it if you have no igniter which means that it’s a high energy coil which is an upgrade the black wire that comes out from the engine back pan the wire comes from the coil out through that back pan down where are your Revlimid was and then goes over to the white wire with a blue stripe in it and there should be like a quick connect there. So we have the white wire with the blue line in our hands and we’ve disconnected it from the ignition coil we want to try to roll the engine over and make sure it has spark if at that point you do not have spark it is time to replace the coil. You can remove it and then use the test procedures from the video. Sometimes the black wire will rub and vibrate at the back pain small hole with the wire goes through and it goes short, which goes to Ground when we don’t want it to. This is all on the premises that you have lost spark
@@Contractorrepair Thanks, I have not lost spark I should have mentioned that it has blue/ white spark at plug.
This info is priceless!!! Thank you my friend!
Thanks , glad I could help.
Thank you very much. This was a big help.
Best I’ve seen! Thanks man,quick and very informative.
Thanks Chad.
Thanks for the video. I picked up a rev limiter to try and put on a small engine that doesn't have one. My wire with the ring is red. I'll give this a try.
best explanation I've seen
Thankyou very much indeed.
Our cart is located on a remote island( Google Keats island if you wish) .
I have the rev limiter on my kitchen table at home.
As I brought it back with me.
I will save you comments and as soon as I get back on the island will try the rest you told me about.
Sometimes we just go with an arm full of parts and try everything because to go back and forwards in the boat takes hours.
Thank you
I grew up in Juneau Alaska. due west of you. know I'm way southeast in a little town called Merrill Mi.
I can relate. once you get in front of the cart to test this Call me . Know we are 4 hrs in time difference I think . here it's 7:20 pm.
you can find me on Facebook as well . Nick Cooper of Michigan.
This video is so helpful but I am still struggling to figure out what is going on with my 2003 club car ds. Is there any way that I could contact you direct to see about helping me out with this problem? Thanks. Jeff.
And just to be perfectly honest some carts the rev limiter’s been relocated out in front of the motor to the crossmember frame so follow the wire coming off of that back in behind the plate it was properly mounted to and it will run into the igniter behind the plate I described
The igniter bolts right behind the rev limiter. After removing the rev limiter brown wire 10mm bolt it sparked again so I cut the black line right next to the male plug in your picture & just left the short black part connecting the coil to the igniter. No rev limiter used now. Goes good again.I used a mirror to see what I was doing.You cant just disconnect the wire from the coil going down to the rev limiter. It needs the small igniter box as well.I have no high voltage to charge the battery as well .Thats the Voltage regulator at fault.
@lomasck yes the wire coming out to your battery from the voltage regulator need to read 13.5 to 14.5. If it reads less than 13.5 time to replace it.
@lomasck correct just the ground wire from the rev limiter to regain spark. Should replace it as well, it protects your motor from over reving the RPMs .
@@lomasck find me on Facebook Madmangolfcartrepair.
Thanks. Pulled rev limiter and tested for resistance. Just getting OL reading. Doing something wrong?
Put a new one on and it ran well until other new fuel pump got clogged.
I understand if it aint one thing it's another on these things sometimes. Keep in touch and let me know if everything worked out
I’m having trouble reading ohms on my multi meter. Is the coil supposed to be grounded normally?
No, while testing no. now to operate while on the engine it naturally is grounded to the motor. so to answer your question is no.
I was wondering if the red limit would work on predator 212 and do you know what the red limit is?
First off, excellent video. I love your explanation. Second, thank you for including the Ohm ranges. Finally, I have a question regarding a golf cart in my shop right now. It has the FE290D-AS17 engine on it. When it came in, the guy said it was getting no spark. He had replaced the battery at the end of last season, and it just sat all winter. He kept the battery in doors and periodically charged it, so all good there. I put the battery in on Saturday, and it takes right off with no problems at all. Monday comes, and with it comes the rain. I hop on to move it into a sheltered area, and it won't budge. I pushed it under the awning and called the guy to let him know. I got around to checking yesterday, and it has VERY weak spark. Is that an indication that the RPM Limiter is going, or should I look elsewhere?
Coil 's if they have a small breach in there sealed housing can take on water causing corrosion . this can increase resistance and weaken the spark. by removing your brown wire from ground on the rev limiter and the spark returns to normal ohm you Rev limiter it may be failing. if not and there is no change get ready to change out the coil.
Is it going to be the same readings on a 97 and newer
Where does the black and white wire from the coil goto? Mechanic installed killswitch years ago and wire broke. I cant find where it was hooked. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance
On the video the wire just left of the writing that says Coil
I know where two of the comports are located.but I am unable to locate the igniter.
I think I might have the fe 350 motor. So that why I am unable to locate an igniter.
I already changed the coil.
And it was a pain just like you said.
Thankyou.
fe350 has a ignition coil that has a built-in igniter. no separate igniter on it. ohm the Rev limiter and then . do too test 1. unplug white wire with black stripe coming from wiring harness from the rear engine area. roll over , spark comes back check micro switch in the black odd shaped box with throttle cable in it. 2. disconnect brown wire on Rev limiter after reconnecting white with black stipe. if your spark returns replace Rev limiter. now if both test are done still no spark 3. check spark plug wire at the end of plug wire where the cap that goes to spark plug end. then can become corroded. still no spark . Replace coil . If in a presedence. drop rear springs only the back end of springs from shackle remove any thing that may prevent the rear end from coming don't . it will drop low enough you can get muffler bracket off and remove shroud cover to engine to get to the coil.
3 hrs from start to finish.
ok, cool. Call me any time after 4:30 pm. 989 395 0913
Names Nick.
I’m getting a reading of like 32 ohms when I test the limiter. I have no spark unless I unplug that white/black wire to the bullet connector. When that is unplugged I get good spark. If I keep that connected but unhook the brown terminal, I still have no spark. I’m getting reading of 4 ohms for igniter.
Unplugging the white wire with blue strip. This eliminates the key switch , micro switch in black triangle box . You run system keeping the run open there is some thing creating a short . Call me at 989 395 0913
I’m have same problem what did you do to fix it?
Hey guys there’s been some question as to where our igniter is located on our carts there is a mounting plate that the Revlimiter black box straps to just below the front of the motor located behind the plate that the rebel limiter is located when equipped with an igniter it bolts on from the backside.If you could get down there and look you’re going to see a small fine threaded screw coming out to you right behind that is where the tab on the igniter bolts to. I hope this helps
Help, have a fe290 that was running good then quit it has no igniter, the brown wire had already been cut. Do some not have a igniter? Thanks
see the wire at the bottom of the video . that's to remove and it should run .but see the igniter there the small tab that wire leading to it must be hooked to it.
I know this is an old video but I just got my first cart. It's a 87vor 88 I think. It's getting weak and intermittent spark. And other times it's great spark and runs fine other then a back fire. Any idea??
Adjust the valves to start with.
Then check the end of the plug wire at its connector and look for either wires that have or are not making contact with the plug end. Then goes to the brown wire coming off the Rev limiter ( black square box lower of the valve cover down in front of the motor. The brown wire will be connected to a bolt. This bolt grounds the Rev limiter. Unbolt it, let it hang free strat and run. See, at this point, we have checked to see if we have a good connection where we need it, and with brown wire off, we are checking the Rev limiter for intermittent failure. If your engine stops, miss firing we have found the issue . A Rev limiter, if it fails, literally shuts down the spark in the event you engines RPM are to great . This Rev limiter saves the engine from taking out your govenor.so we want to ensure this Rev limiter is functional at the right time. The backfire is a traight of a loss of spark at some point . Following what's above, we isolate why. After this we then check all wiring near the Rev limiter and see if the black wire running into the fly wheel area may have worn the coating off it and is it shorting the coil out intermittently . I lift the rear of the cart wheels off the ground and shut off all the light and watch for arcing.neear that area.
@@Contractorrepair thanks so much for responding. You the man! Went out sanded all grounds and every connector I could find. Still just weak to no spark. Disconnected the rpm limiter something. Got annoyed came back little later and turned key and had great spark. Drove it around till I got bored back fired 2 or 3 times when letting of off gas. I don't know how I can have spark randomly and not have it others. You don't have to respond don't want to waste your time just confused lol. Again thanks for the response.
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Great video!! I’ve been looking all over RUclips for help. I’m having a problem with my 02 DS, it works fine some days. Randomly weather the cart is hot or cold I start the cart and when I push pedal to go, it revs a little like it wants to go then immediately kills rpm, and when the problem is happening it idles weird. Any advice please would be much appreciated! Thanks from Australia
If there’s a brown wire coming off of your black square box rev limiter remove it from its 10 mm bolt that grounds at two make it operate remove the brown wire. If you regain spark replace the rev limiter. That’s the cheapest way to start. After that follow the ohm schedule in the video for your igniter because that’s your next step. After that you wanna make sure if the igniter ohms are in correct it’s time to get down into the coil area under the shroud. Make sure you have plenty of time to cope with the shroud pulling it off. And then follow up with me once you find out what you have.
@@Contractorrepair thank you soo much for replying! I will definitely respond with a follow up. The cart is on-site at a job site right now. It’s actually a 07 DS carry all 6 I use it for work at events. Thanks again I will follow your troubleshooting steps and come back to you.
What does the igniter plug into.... took mine out but it wasn't plugged into anything
If yours was not plugged in and the unit does run.It's because someone has changed.The coil or pick up coil at the flywheel.And it is now in that coil your system has been converted. That being said , if it didn't start and run and what's unplugged , there's only one Leave, that would be exposed.Just hanging there, not plugged in right.Any further issues?Call me after four thirty michigan time 9893950913 nick
I replaced my coil pack on my club car ds with cheapo. Works fine until parked for 10+ mins. The coil pack has no spark,I notice if I put a spark tester between the spark plug and coil pack and ground it to the engine it starts sparking and working again until parked. Would this be a faulty coil I bought or maybe the rev limiter? Golf cart repair please help. I also ran a ground lead from battery to engine thinking it was the ground still nothing.
Go to the spark plug wire at the end with a cap is I want you to ensure that the brass screw is up into the wiring of the spark plug wire. Then take the ground wire off of the rev limiter that is brown tan and color just remove it from its 10 mm screw there and then I want you to do 5 time start it run it for 2 minutes and turn it off then I want you to put the brown wire back onto ground and do the test again now if it fails it's your rev limiter if it continues to run no problem your issue was in your lead wire at the cap not making good connection. Now if doing all of this doesn't help at all I want you to go to the coil again find the kill wire that comes out through the Shroud area and check and make sure that it's connection to the harness is correct. If you have an F E 290 ohm out the igniter. If it's an fe350 it will not have an igniter. Keep me updated
@@Contractorrepair okay as soon as i took the brown wire off it started with spark on the tester. Started 5 times turned off for 2 minutes. Connected brown wire and it still runs and gets spark. What do you mean by the lead ground on the cap. Are you saying the brown wire isnt grounded good enough? Usually when it wouldnt start back up it would take about 10 mins of sitting.
@@StutlaProduction we are either dealing with a Temp issue causing a failure. Rev limiter brown wire off just aliminates the Rev limiters operation . If brown wires connected and no spark there is a direct short. a Rev limiter basically calculates the RPMs coming from the coil that being said if it reaches 4000 RPMs it will make the spark go to direct ground. If you were having a unit that has periodic Spark that goes away and returns no matter what the time frame is what is important is when do you lose Spark. If the unit is cold and you start the machine up and it runs for let's say 10-15 minutes fails to continue in operation by losing spark while the engine is running this indicates that a temperature issue on the coil causing it to go too short as if it was like someone shut the key off. Sitting for a little while unit cooling down and then turning your key and it starting back up I would search at all components but they must be hot such as at the time of failure remove the brown wire if it starts up as soon as you remove that brown wire then you know the rev limiter has got a temperature issue and failing under Heat being the unit is most likely bolted near the engine in my past experience I take and butt connect extension wires to the black and brown wires and relocate a new rev limiter just out to the frame of the cart to prevent heat build-up. I know what you're asking me is which component is failing, but you need a OHM tester on your multimeter to check at the time of failure. Your ignition coil itself just bolts into the engine area it's black lead wire that comes off through the shroud to test at failure disconnect this lead and really start unit if it starts it'd not the coil.
@@StutlaProduction plug cap that snaps on spark plug
Thank you for your information, really helpful
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989 395 0913. Text me , let me know it’s you then call me after 4:00 pm michigan time. Nick.
Actually, I have one more question. What would happen if the cart ran without the Limiter? Thanks again!
it will make the carb back fire if ran over 3,600 rpms.
Does the voltage regulator hook up to ignitor
It does not , the igniter acts like a capacitor. Your voltage regulator comes off of your starter generator leads into the black box. It regulates the power that comes off of the surge generator and ensures that you have a sufficient amount of voltage in your battery for the next time, the engine startsand keeps it charged as you use accessories like lights etc. that would draw off of the battery. An igniter is in your start and run system which is separate. If you need more information and you’re able to you can call me it’s 989-395-0913 ask for Nick.
To describe it a little better inside the black box weird throttle control is just behind your seat. That’s where the vultures regulator would normally sit down in there, so the starter motor is two phase it first turns the engine over at a certain RPMs when the engine itself starts up it converts into what they call a alternator/generator. It delivers power down to the voltage regulator, and that determines how many volts are put into your battery most the time you want to provide more than 12 V some run 13.5 and up to 14.75. It all depends on the strength. I have seen the mounted outside where someone had removed it and then mounted it outside the black box somewhere it’s about a 3“ x 3“ square flat with one hole right through the center of of it that mounts to the bottom of the plastic box the black plastic box.
I am trying to check my Rev-Limiter for an OHM reading and i cant get a reading, does that mean that the Rev-Limiter is bad? the iginiter reads 4.45 OHM.
are you getting a 0.00 witch is a short are go a direct ground. Cut the Brown wire and see if spark returns. If so Replace it.
@@Contractorrepair when i put the meter on to check it the screen doesn't change. i just purchased this cart last month it ran good then it just wouldnt start, electric motor is starting but the gas motor is not starting, im getting fuel just seems like im not getting spark, the brown wire was already disconnected.
@@nathannull6261 ok. Time to Ohm your ignition coil. look for a Direct short on kill wire .
@@Contractorrepair on the ignition coil for the primary im getting 8.23 and the secondary 8.25 how do you check for a direct short on the kill wire?
@@Contractorrepair i replaced the coil with a 97' coil with built in igniter and i still have no spark , i checked the kill wire and when i turn the key on and push the pedal down there is no ground, but when i check for ground on the coil where the kill wire plugs into it seems to be grounded, is that susposto be like that? i have also purchaced a new rev limiter. still no spark. can someone please help
When I take the dead man switch wire off of the ignition coil it runs great but will not start with dead man switch wire connected to the coil as it shouldbe, what do you think the problem would be?
ok. you need to make sure the wire " Brown coming off the rev limiter is in fact the wire. sounds as if the wire coming off the igniter is what is the issue . in pet the wires black coming from the engine area to the coil . brown comes from the rev limiter. this wire Brown just bolts as a ground just lower the rev limiter with that 10 mm bolt . the igniter it located back behind and is the size of end of you middle finger.
And yes to all your grammar police out there no it’s not a rebel limiter I was voice texting
Do you still have the same cell number?
989 395 0913 sorry.
What if the rev limitor is reading 7.4 does that means it’s bad?
Bad or will be soon.
When is disconnect the white and black wire from rev limiter it runs when connected no spark figure I could use your knowledge thanks
Where is the igniter?
Will a bad limiter cause high voltage from the voltage regulator I keep getting up to 17.1 volts with new starter and new voltage regulator
not at all. voltage and limiter are on Entirely separates Circuits
Hi can. Anyone help me I have a 1992 club car ds fe 290 engine I changed the ignition coil 2 years ago with one with the self igniter in the instructions it stated only clock wise direction engine , mine is anti clock wise no spark the right way round, but sparks the wrong way round it’s ran for 2 years and now has died any reason for this? Rpm limiter disconnected
Yes the rev-limiter is probably disconnected, because it is either defective, or someone didn't know what they were doing. If you have a meal emanated the igniter. And you have installed a coil that has an igniter in it combo. You must get the correct coil pickup directions. Your cart what direction does it crank over to the left or to the right when looking at the flywheel
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My fe290d does not have a rev limiter or igniter. It’s on an old gator
Your gator will have a Governor and a throttle stop. Your ignition coil will have some type of a high energy ignition which means built into the coil. That coil grounds to the engine block, and will have a lead wire that comes off do your ignition one wire. Don’t confuse them with wires coming from magneto which generates power as an alternator to run lights or recharge the battery. Are you having spark issues. Inspect the lead wire from the coil coming up to the spark plug. If yours is not a molded endcap it may unscrew off the lead wire coming from the coil up to the spark plug sometimes they get corroded. Trim back 1/4 inch of the wire and reinstall the endcap if it does screw down in with a barbed copper styled threaded end. What’s going on with the unit itself
Still, no one says where this igniter is located.
Igniter if it has one will be located behind the rev limiter mounting plate. So if we look and find no igniter your cart has a ignition coil that has one built into it. What year is your cart ?
Correcting myself, the coil primary is in ohms, (not k ohms)
can we install rev limiter in any 400cc engine?
it will cut spark at 4,000 rpms
Yeah mine doesn’t give any spark after running it over 40 min
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Behind the rev limiter mount looked like just a ground wire. I do not see an ignitor!
Ok, you have a high energy coil you do not need An igniter your call has been built in it
Coil
@@Contractorrepair so I will be replacing the rev limiter today because of weak spark. Hopefully that is my issue .
Any way of knowing a year or model of these club cars?
Just go to Amazon put rev limiter Kawasaki fe290
@@Contractorrepair have already ordered rev l. Going to install once it is delivered. Just curious for future purchases. But if this doesn't work. You would expect it to be internal like the coil?
I'm out of work at 5 call me at 1 989 395 0913 later tonight . I'll help you. I was frustrated as hell years ago trying to figure this out . I'm sure it's the same for you.
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Rev. Limiter is OL
COIL primary 8ohms secondary 1.4 ohms
Didn’t get to the igniter. What are the chances that’s bad too?
Club car runs for an hour then shuts off. Won’t turn over. Nothing. Few hours later she’s running again.
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Primery 8 to high , will fail as amps climb it tells the rev limiter a lie . so it tell the spark shit down . change out the coil.
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