Pushing Towards Abstraction in Your Paintings

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  • Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
  • All representational painting is abstract. We are translating a 3-D world into 2-D. Some images allow us to push the abstraction more. Others less.
    In this video I do the same image 9 times. Each one becomes more abstract while still holding to the initial representational nature of the image.
    I just think the main point is to recognize an interplay. It is to know when it is time when you really have to craft the thing and articulate it well, and those that lend themselves to more abstraction. And if you confuse them, you could be in trouble because you just sort of get lost in one or the other. Just recognizing the difference between them is powerful. When you're in the each arena, it helps to know when to abstract and when to really form a definite articulated form.
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  • @StuartDavies
    @StuartDavies 3 года назад +43

    You are a natural teacher!

  • @raerae6422
    @raerae6422 5 месяцев назад +1

    I always start off wanting to do an abstracted landscape but nearly every time i add more value shapes, then more and more until im using a tiny brush, being overly detailed.
    Thank you for all you do for us. One day when im out of financial stress i want to donate to your channel or buy your courses. Feel so guilty getting quality demonstations and instruction for free on YT. Id be happy to watch ads for now if you had them. I think most of us would be happy to give back that way.

  • @Nienpet
    @Nienpet 3 года назад +13

    There’s a photograph I took of a sunset a while back that I’m dying to paint. It has the most beautiful colours and value ranges. This video has given me the guts to give it a go. I only took up painting 5 months ago and so I’m still nervous of trying stuff. Thanks 🥂

  • @otchiesgal
    @otchiesgal Год назад +1

    Very helpful! Not every artist can teach. You are definitely a good teacher AND artist. So thank you.

  • @robbedontuesday
    @robbedontuesday 3 года назад +7

    Amazing how you address the essentials in less than 10 minutes.

  • @fatoomgierdien2181
    @fatoomgierdien2181 3 года назад +1

    You make All of our challenges....simple.
    Thank You.

  • @karenhoward303
    @karenhoward303 7 месяцев назад +1

    I find every lesson helpful!

  • @skysky9115
    @skysky9115 2 года назад +1

    I love every one of them !

  • @sallysims5090
    @sallysims5090 3 года назад +30

    This was very helpful, especially the brushwork demonstration. I'd like to see how you would simplify that Victorian house. :)

    • @SingYourselfWell
      @SingYourselfWell 3 года назад +5

      Yeah, really. I'd just block in a friggin' square and call it a day! BAHAHAHAHA.

  • @jackiegoodwin2332
    @jackiegoodwin2332 3 месяца назад

    Wow! That looked like a very brave thing to do. 👏🏼 Thank you, as ever, for your genuinely generous sharing of knowledge . I picked up on you during Lockdown and you were the catalyst I needed to get going again with my art. You were such a friendly face that I looked forward to hearing from every week. I have since joined an art class and your videos often pop up there!
    My best wishes to you for your new explorations and continued successes.
    Looking forward to the new-style videos next month, all the best 😁

  • @davidstewart5452
    @davidstewart5452 2 года назад

    helpful..awesome name dropping someone mentioned Ivon Hitchens ...ty sir

  • @maryphillips6273
    @maryphillips6273 2 года назад +2

    This is one of my favorite videos; I'm going to try this exercise this weekend! Thanks again, Ian!

  • @kevingeaney7741
    @kevingeaney7741 3 года назад

    Clear you know how much difficulty students experience when they are trying to avoid getting into too much detail. I find your videos very encouraging. Thank you..

  • @Nsleephd
    @Nsleephd 3 года назад +4

    Really excellent explanation and demo of how abstraction works! Thanks for another highly informative video 👏🏽😍👍🏼

  • @iwpsurf
    @iwpsurf Год назад

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge! Excellent insights.

  • @janeiwan3809
    @janeiwan3809 3 года назад +3

    Ian, your demonstrations are such a gift. I think about them when I'm painting. Thanks so very much.

  • @ginawood5991
    @ginawood5991 2 года назад

    Ian thank you so much for your generosity in sharing all of your knowledge, skill and talent.

  • @holly_kay5570
    @holly_kay5570 2 года назад +1

    I love this and thank you for showing it. I'm a fan of the more abstract and that's what I hope to accomplish in my own work.

  • @christinerothmuller2597
    @christinerothmuller2597 3 года назад +6

    I love it , specially the large fields of colours in a more abstract way ! Thank you for sharing !

  • @janetmckelvey8622
    @janetmckelvey8622 3 года назад

    Thank you for helping me to understand abstract painting today. Your message and the demonstrations of each paintings made it very clear.

  • @katerina373
    @katerina373 3 года назад +10

    They all are so beautiful yet every has its character😉🙌👍 and emotions they caused differ too! Amazing 🤩

  • @jamesparsons1192
    @jamesparsons1192 3 года назад

    Taught me the value of multiple painting attempts of the same scene. Thank you for your skill and teaching ability, Ian.

  • @robinjohns507
    @robinjohns507 3 года назад +2

    Love this lesson. All of them were so beautiful in their own way. Created very different response from me.

  • @eddielindaa
    @eddielindaa 5 месяцев назад

    Gifted painter and teacher
    Lovely personality

  • @kdoggdracul
    @kdoggdracul 2 года назад

    I discovered your channel yesterday and I just cannot stop watching! I'll eventually watch them all. Thank you so much!

  • @karinlease3544
    @karinlease3544 3 года назад +3

    It is so useful and inspiring to see the whole range of approaches to one subject. The progression is a great teaching tool!

  • @SingYourselfWell
    @SingYourselfWell 3 года назад +3

    Amazing. As an abstract loving painter, I REALLY enjoyed this sequence! Thank you Ian.

  • @bridgetwilliams7134
    @bridgetwilliams7134 3 года назад

    I am just starting out learning how to do Abstract Painting with Watercolours. Not that the Medium is important, but I thought I would mention it because I am 80 years old and these days do an A4 painting each day from my armchair. In this situation I find Watercolour easier to handle and clean up. I have been an amateur Realist artist in for approx.' 30 years using Acrylics, Gouache, Watercolour, Pen & Wash, Charcoal, and Graphite. Never to late to learn , I was recommended by a fellow online artist to watch your video "Pushing Towards Abstraction in Your Paintings". Thank you, as you have clearly answered so many questions for me on on Abstract Art.

  • @allanmercer6764
    @allanmercer6764 3 года назад +1

    Great stuff. You are able and willing to take on something most of us don't really understand. I'm a learner.

  • @amredrisco8416
    @amredrisco8416 3 года назад +2

    This was so helpful for someone like me who often has a tendency to get bogged down with detail. Appreciated!

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 года назад +4

      Hi Amre, so much of getting bogged down in detail is not thinking in terms of the big value masses and using those to make the painting work. Otherwise you are sort of adding details in the hopes they all add up to a painting and usually about half way through you start to realize something is wrong. Not quite going to plan. Glad you found it helpful

  • @thusspokezarathustra
    @thusspokezarathustra 3 года назад

    Really love your approach to teaching the basics of painting.

  • @jaymalloy
    @jaymalloy 3 года назад

    ian, thank you for that exploration into abstraction! Fun to see how the gesture and energy of painting changes with the abstraction process. Always looking forward to the next video.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 года назад

      I'm delighted you are enjoying them Jay. It was an interesting exercise. Enjoyable. Once I had the big basic shapes in place it allowed for more and more freedom. Best wishes.

  • @SuperSecretSilliness
    @SuperSecretSilliness 4 месяца назад

    I love this one!! Inspiring lesson. Thank you!

  • @ralphchristianson
    @ralphchristianson 3 года назад

    I have been enjoying your videos for several days now, and I must say how impressed I am with the diversity of ideas and inspiration. Like most of the viewers of your lessons, I am trying to wrap my painting brain around your ideas and I do not claim to understand it all, I am glad you are trying to help plant the seeds of our future images. From this will come many ideas, and I thank you for the effort it takes for you to do these videos. I also appreciate the length of your videos as there is so much solid information to soak up, more then what they are could be too much in a great way of course.

  • @lesliethejourneyismyhome3224
    @lesliethejourneyismyhome3224 2 года назад

    This is fabulous-clear and interesting. I love you art as well, thank you.

  • @richardsong8
    @richardsong8 3 года назад

    Again and again, you address the specific painting issues on my mind... spooky!!! Thank you Ian!

  • @KathyBrooksArt
    @KathyBrooksArt 3 года назад +1

    That was great. Good points and love to see you paint too!

  • @janehop
    @janehop 3 года назад

    Really liked this one, with all of those examples of abstraction...Very nice! Thank you..

  • @toniritchie6018
    @toniritchie6018 2 года назад

    LOVE THIS!!! Really shows how some many different approaches CAN be highly successful and pleasing when starting with an solid composition! Thanks very much.

  • @colleenfreeman5586
    @colleenfreeman5586 3 года назад

    Excellent. Love your material and teaching style!

  • @emanjewels7588
    @emanjewels7588 Год назад

    Very clear explanation,Grea.
    Thanks

  • @PARoth2011
    @PARoth2011 2 года назад

    This is so eye-opening..just WOW! Your teaching style is amazing.

  • @stephfindlay
    @stephfindlay Год назад

    Fantastic!

  • @John_21601
    @John_21601 3 года назад

    Fascinating.

  • @Lafortuneist
    @Lafortuneist 3 года назад

    Thank you for sharing

  • @nhuttrinh1920
    @nhuttrinh1920 3 года назад

    Many thanks for your teachings. I have learned a lot and I did improve my skills and compositions

  • @Tizaheijting
    @Tizaheijting 3 года назад

    Appreciate how you rationalize so we're all forced to think (!) what we do and why we do it. To learn to make well founded choices and to peel off the superfluous. Thanks once again for your weekly perseverance to keep bringing us your knowledge.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 года назад

      Thanks so much Patricia. That is a good way to express what I am doing. I hadn't thought of it that way exactly but it is accurate I think. Best wishes.

  • @pjfreeman1067
    @pjfreeman1067 3 года назад

    Thanks again.

  • @sylvainst-pierre5224
    @sylvainst-pierre5224 2 года назад

    Thank you sir !!

  • @michaelbruce1847
    @michaelbruce1847 3 года назад

    This was a great overview. I'm looking forward to experimenting with some of my own photos. A good way to break out of a style rut

  • @eddienew2044
    @eddienew2044 3 года назад

    That was a revelation to me and has given me much to think about, as you often do.

  • @artemiotullo9014
    @artemiotullo9014 3 года назад

    This video helps a lot in my art journey in terms of abstraction. Im a noob and still feeling my way out. The last image is Rothko-like which is my favourite. I like the middle ones and quite doable for beginners like me. Thank You Ian for your masterclass sharing and more power!

  • @kantasoni7870
    @kantasoni7870 Год назад

    Fantastic 🎉

  • @bearbait7405
    @bearbait7405 2 года назад

    Thank you.

  • @katymosiman388
    @katymosiman388 2 года назад

    Your videos are so helpful!

  • @josephineherrera8508
    @josephineherrera8508 3 года назад +2

    I used this image to paint with pastels. It was very difficult for me to abstract the photo. I kept trying to put details in. I loved your process.

  • @noumine
    @noumine 3 года назад

    this is wonderful. thank you.

  • @toniclarktube
    @toniclarktube 3 года назад

    Oh, I just LOVE this!! Thank you!

  • @anniepais700
    @anniepais700 3 года назад

    I have your book and have been teaching from it for years! This is a fabulous find....I'll get my students to subscribe...thanks.

  • @jonahwalker6354
    @jonahwalker6354 3 года назад

    Great video Ian- these simple paintings really show how much of the work is done by composition!

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 года назад +1

      Hi Jonah, that just became more and more evident as I did each one. Once those big shapes are in place there is a lot of room for expression and experimentation. Glad you liked it.

  • @bonnyvondolores2647
    @bonnyvondolores2647 3 года назад

    excellent...been wanting to use oils...again... now I will 👍

  • @juliegriffiths4272
    @juliegriffiths4272 2 года назад

    I really liked this, you explain beautifully something I've been thinking of playing with as I try to understand and find my way with abstracting. Thank you.

  • @gaylemartin6498
    @gaylemartin6498 3 года назад

    This was exciting watching you push the concept. Thank you for this, Ian. I am going to try it! Be safe.

  • @isabellasalaverry4021
    @isabellasalaverry4021 3 года назад

    Great lesson, thanks

  • @motionprocess
    @motionprocess 3 года назад

    great instruction. and nice pictures!

  • @PrincessAloeVera
    @PrincessAloeVera 3 года назад

    Good one! PLEASE do more showing the progression of abstraction in several paintings and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE allow more time with each image in the ending slide show. Thank you.

  • @julieburke1579
    @julieburke1579 3 года назад

    Thought provoking as always Ian and a useful exercise to add to the to do list! Thanks!

  • @nathalieh.d.9098
    @nathalieh.d.9098 3 года назад

    Love the idea of having several goes at the same topic - another great video, thanks Ian!

  • @celestesmith9305
    @celestesmith9305 3 года назад

    I thoroughly enjoyed this segment! Thank you Ian!

  • @resilientfarmsanddesignstu1702
    @resilientfarmsanddesignstu1702 2 года назад

    This was a very helpful video illustrating the degree of abstraction and it’s effects, especially how abstraction affects the dynamic of the intention of the artist for the scene and the perception of the scene by the viewer. Very interesting.

  • @francoisecottet7662
    @francoisecottet7662 3 года назад

    I prefer the first version, because of the composition, fine balance of shapes, perspective, values, colors... last but not least expressiveness compared to the photograph! and to be summed up in one word : creativeness. Thank you so much Ian for this original spectrum of paintings.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 года назад

      Hi Francoise, I think I may like the first one the most too but because of the nuanced color. It made me think if I could do another and make it increasingly abstract but get more layers of nuanced color in it. But also I think I'm ready to move on. Best wishes to you.

  • @Meirecabral
    @Meirecabral 3 года назад

    Very helpful and enlightening!!! Thanks!

  • @tracyhickman1359
    @tracyhickman1359 3 года назад

    Really loved this and a great idea!

  • @beautifullife7680
    @beautifullife7680 3 года назад

    Great video as usual,always looking for the next one 👍👏🏼

  • @christinelewis5765
    @christinelewis5765 3 года назад

    Great stuff! I loved that 👍

  • @annavernick1490
    @annavernick1490 3 года назад

    I definitely enjoyed the different feelings evoked by each painting and preferred the last two shown abstracted to fields of heightened color.

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 года назад +1

      Thank you for telling me your preferences Anna. As it happened I sold #5 and #9 so I don't think you were alone in preferring that end of the series.

  • @gregautryphoto
    @gregautryphoto 3 года назад

    Excellent. One of your best.

  • @geneunderwood3671
    @geneunderwood3671 3 года назад

    This is invaluable. Thank you!

  • @philmecup
    @philmecup 3 месяца назад

    That was ggggreat!!! Thank You!!

  • @nathalieslachmuylders
    @nathalieslachmuylders 2 года назад

    Very impressive and enjoyable demonstration, thanks for sharing! Like others have said: seeing the brushes/brushwork was of great value in this video. I noticed in the slideshow how much the mood changes over the individual paintings. I got more or less the same atmosphere from Richter's 4, perhaps just a growing sense of unease/chaos over the progression, but I felt with yours the mood varied, and since it can't be the abstraction, it must be your experimentation with the color scheme! Also instructive.

  • @lisengel2498
    @lisengel2498 3 года назад

    I like very much your way of showing the movement toward more and more abstraction - I believe that the more we plY with using all our senses the more we can move freely from realistic into total abstraction - and back again . I am inspired from the Danish philosopher who has written a book call " beauty happens" ( only in Danish) and He uses the concept synkinaesthetic - the feeling of movement together with all the other senses vision, hearing, smell, touch etc

  • @palwashafineart4839
    @palwashafineart4839 3 года назад

    👍 great! Yes, there is this interplay some i find more towards realistic and some towards more abstraction!

  • @margaretbutters6181
    @margaretbutters6181 3 года назад +1

    gosh this is good never had such good advice thankyou

  • @padraigcostello8499
    @padraigcostello8499 3 года назад

    Well done Ian! I have recently stumbled across your teaching on the web and really appreciate your clear and well delivered presentations. I never went to art school but can imagine me at school when I listen to your presentations!

  • @SusanneBachunAquarell
    @SusanneBachunAquarell 3 года назад

    I love them all, but Numbers 5 and 9 are my favourites, because of the deep blue sky and the salmon Pink clouds. Great ! Thank you so much for sharing your efforts to abstraction, Ian. This inspires me to also work more often in series to make all the nuances visible. You're my composition teacher since 15 years or so. Own your books and DVDs and love your work ! And foremost I love to have found you here on RUclips. Thanks for sharing all your invaluable knowledge ! Have a nice week !

  • @SadrStar
    @SadrStar 3 года назад

    Hello Ian! I love your videos. They are short, but very effective! That's why I subscribed to your channel.

  • @philippaheadleyartist8450
    @philippaheadleyartist8450 3 года назад

    Really interesting to see the different stages of abstraction. Thank you

  • @oldgold5848
    @oldgold5848 3 года назад

    Excellent. I suffer with fussing with the paint and overworking it. I really like 1 5 and 8 best. Many thanks for the upload.

  • @rolisonpaint3
    @rolisonpaint3 3 года назад

    Thanks very much. I learn so much from you

  • @lynetremblay7680
    @lynetremblay7680 3 года назад

    This is so helpful. I am trying this today: to paint many of the same image. Also, will start off by making a cardboard frame and cutting the brushes on my 1 to 1-1/2” commercial brushes so that they are shorter and angled like yours. Thank you so much!

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 года назад

      Hi Lyne, good luck with that. Those brushes that I use are just cheap bristle brushes (the cost $2) from the hardware store. I don't trim them. If you buy regular house painting brushes and trim them you'll probably find they are too dense. Have fund and all the best.

  • @suzanneleighton7466
    @suzanneleighton7466 2 года назад

    Very helpful

  • @momopaints
    @momopaints 3 года назад

    I love abstracting but I never tried it multiple times like that. Definitely going to give it a shot and even in multiple media, oil, acrylic, gouache and watercolor. Thanks!

    • @IanRobertsMasteringComposition
      @IanRobertsMasteringComposition  3 года назад +1

      The right image really opens up a big arena of possibilities. Like you say, with different media as well.

  • @iaincphotography6051
    @iaincphotography6051 3 года назад

    Superb, enjoying your vlogs.

  • @KateColors
    @KateColors 3 года назад

    This is a great practice, to see what emerges. Thank you! --KateColors

  • @carolzuckerman8873
    @carolzuckerman8873 3 года назад

    This was really helpful to me. Thank you!

  • @ianbrowne8871
    @ianbrowne8871 3 года назад

    Great fun and some of the images remind me of work by Ivon Hitchens who created wonderful early morning landscapes where detail is unnecessary!

  • @MohammedAnsariRiz
    @MohammedAnsariRiz 3 года назад

    Enjoyed it :)

  • @davidstewart5452
    @davidstewart5452 2 года назад

    someone mentioned Rothko...my next port of call....comments are as intriguing as Ians

  • @tracik1277
    @tracik1277 3 года назад +1

    Instant subscribe, cheers!

  • @dwbhy11
    @dwbhy11 3 года назад

    Wow! So interesting!