I even tried to make an argument for why its more comforting to think almost everyone is malicious. What a crazy thing to realize you have come to believe. Like how on earth could I feel safer thinking that. That's actually insane.
@@justinjozokos1699 yes its very greatly appreciated! And you know apparently that phrase I keep misusing "Stockholm Syndrome" does not require one to like the captors like I thought for some reason. Merely mimicking their traits for safety is Stockholm Syndrome. Maybe the Father thought between a brother and seeing a phrase 1000x my smooth brain might eventually catch it. I would not have caught it without our conversation!
@@justinjozokos1699 i was even beginning to speak like "them" 😵💫 You said "hypocrite" and I wanted to object and settled for "maybe that's the right word, maybe it's not." Uh Christina, its either the right word or its not! Weird move and not even like me smh
When I felt the love of God for the first time I wanted to love everyone! I used to find people/being in public annoying but the love of God transformed me. I wanted to sing in the streets and share this love with others so that they’d know they are loved and wouldn’t have to feel sad or angry or hurt anymore. I still feel that way but more toned down, now I let people be and I love them but I allow them to show me their fruit and I listen very carefully to what they say. Jesus Christ said “you will know them by their fruit.” And He also said “out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks” meaning we can hear in their words where their heart is. And with that I am gentle as a dove and wise as a serpent, I love on people who need/want it by allowing God’s love to shine through me and by sharing the gospel and those who don’t want it I just walk away until they are ready.
@@InterwebUser-ps7ju when I first began to believe I got roped into a Calvinist baptist church and started to sound like Paul's defense attorney. I think 95% of my paranoia is from my own bad decision making. I say roped in because my gut was saying no but everyone around me was saying yes so I joined the church.
@@ChristinaFromRUclips My testimony is that I wasn’t raised Christian, I was born into a non practicing Catholic family and then I got into witchcraft/new age and then I turned atheist. I was atheist for about 7-8 years before I had my encounter with God. I was in my home, no Bible, no preacher, not even the gospel, just me at home in my PJ’s. I called my brother and asked told him maybe his God could help me, he said yes and prayed with me over the phone. I was needing God and calling out to Him and BAM! I had a supernatural encounter right then and there! I was in the spirit meeting God seconds into that prayer, I couldn’t even hear my brother anymore, I was hearing God, He branded my heart with the truth He gave me His everlasting gospel, He showed me so much love and compassion and kindness, I knew this was my Creator and I immediately loved Him back and wanted to follow Him. I mean, just true pure love and joy that I had never had in my entire life, such beauty and wonderfulness. He showed me in that moment that He is the way the truth and the life and I decided to follow Him. My life hasn’t been the same since, praise God. His Holy Spirit has convicted me of sin and I obey what He tells me. I went to a church soon after that because I was told to and I felt in my spirit something wrong with that but I went thinking maybe these are God’s people. I went to a baptist church for the first time in my life, and I was there for a little over a year but the Lord God pulled me out and showed me things so now I just fellowship with other children of God wherever that me be whether it be online, in the grocery store, friends of friends, on the street, just wherever, home churches ect. and it’s awesome.
@@InterwebUser-ps7ju my knowledge of God initially came from the wild space magic of the other thread. I was a chemistry student and all of those "transmutation" processes need an initial catalyst but have no catalyst. I started with "intelligent design" because it at least gave me a catalyst for that fusion process of hydrogen I mentioned in the sun thread. It was a really cold, clinical "well these processes had to start somewhere" belief at first for me.
I think it's a form of perfect possession: the person has consented to the demonic to such a degree that there's no longer any difference and they're perfectly or fully possessed. I think for most people there's am internal battle against evil but some just consent to it and eventually it takes over completely. I think demons can also be generational.. which doesn't mean its inevitable but it is if the person doesn't resist.
I think there is a demonic element but I think our danger lies in what Jesus says in Matthew 24 that because of an increase in lawlessness the love of many will grow cold. I was reading that as though the lawless are without love in their hearts. But I had it completely wrong. The lack of love would be in us as a response or even defense mechanism against increased evil in the world. I know that I personally decided to have no interpersonal relationships whatsoever to "protect myself" and I cornered myself into distrusting everyone past, present, and future and that's a spiritual prison. That's exactly what the people I try to protect myself from are like.
@@ChristinaFromRUclips That makes sense.. I'm in the same situation. Just recently lost my only friend for no reason (we weren't very close because I keep people at a distance). It is like a prison, we're not designed to have relationships like snails with protective shells.. but what do you do if as a slug you get squashed over and over. Maybe that's also why our treasure is meant to be in heaven, like loving God heals us and is the living water?
@@CuriousCattery my whole life I have felt like a puppy people walk by and kick. My earliest memories are adults saying things to get me upset because they thought me freaking out was funny. I just kept being myself until I came to understand that Paul was false and then I felt like maybe the puppy has been kicked enough and I can fight back now. Like enough is enough. But the more I have gone in that direction the more I think that's what most people are doing. They're scared and defending themselves. They see us puppies being kicked and say "no never that!" And become even colder. Now there are absolutely evil people who enjoy being evil but its not going to help me to treat everyone like they belong in that category. I'm not going to be safer I'm just going to be cold and paranoid.
Its even almost like because we know people want to extinguish the light we do what Jesus said not to and hide the light under a basket so they can't blow it out.
@@ChristinaFromRUclips It's definitely the wrong direction and the one most of us go in. What I think is we need a church for people who've seen through Paul and won't kick each other. I feel very kicked around as well.. but I've also done some kicking, mostly when I was young and stupid but I still am stupid. Like I was the passenger in a car the other day and the driver was swearing at people and calling them fools and I didn't have the guts to say anything, I just agreed. You definitely shouldn't hide your light, your YT channel is a part of that light :)
I am going to take on the praying for the healing of trauma so that people can turn to him. I mean maybe it's people who need healed first. I had to be healed of the whole drunken thing first. I want to even pray for the healing of trauma of people I know for sure genuinely do hate me like "philanthropists." Its not like I could make the situation worse that way. My mom used to say "hurt people hurt people" and it sounded like quite the excuse to me then. But what if there's real truth in that and it can be altered spiritually through prayer??
Getting hit doesn't hurt as much if you brace yourself for it. A righteous man doesn't get "tricked" into getting hurt. He signs up for it by doing what is right. Ironically, by trying to escape the inevitable pain, it will hurt more because it will then catch them off guard. Because they gave themselves false assurance that they could avoid it altogether. What that man is describing is called "dog eat dog" and it is a principle that this fallen world operates by. But Jesus teaches us not to be "dog eat dog" but rather "sheep feed sheep".. Matthew 20:25-28 NIV Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. [26] Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, [27] and whoever wants to be first must be your slave--- [28] just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” Matthew 5:39-44 NIV But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. [40] And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. [41] If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. [42] Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. [43] “You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' [44] But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you
@@seekingtheoncesaved2834 this is in regards to emotional trauma and neglect creating maladaptive behaviors but that is a good point to pray for them! My mom was referencing like lashing out at people not physical harm. Sorry I didn't clarify!
@@ChristinaFromRUclips I know. And Jesus isn't literally talking about physical harm even though he says "strike". The point is, it's our natural, fleshly, instinct to pass pain on to the next person rather than absorb it. Whatever pain that may be..
There's the old and very weird saying about many ways to skin a cat. I think that's the case with maladaptive behavior. If they can't make you behave like them one way - for example through emulating Paul they will get you through protecting yourself from the Pauls of the world. But the trick is you'll see Paul in nearly everyone because he became all things to all people. Sneaky, sneaky. But the Father is freeing me from that snare, thankfully!!
I even tried to make an argument for why its more comforting to think almost everyone is malicious.
What a crazy thing to realize you have come to believe.
Like how on earth could I feel safer thinking that. That's actually insane.
This brother very gently snatched you from the fire? He must really know the Gospel well.
God bless
@@justinjozokos1699 yes its very greatly appreciated!
And you know apparently that phrase I keep misusing "Stockholm Syndrome" does not require one to like the captors like I thought for some reason.
Merely mimicking their traits for safety is Stockholm Syndrome.
Maybe the Father thought between a brother and seeing a phrase 1000x my smooth brain might eventually catch it.
I would not have caught it without our conversation!
@@justinjozokos1699 i was even beginning to speak like "them" 😵💫
You said "hypocrite" and I wanted to object and settled for "maybe that's the right word, maybe it's not."
Uh Christina, its either the right word or its not! Weird move and not even like me smh
When I felt the love of God for the first time I wanted to love everyone!
I used to find people/being in public annoying but the love of God transformed me. I wanted to sing in the streets and share this love with others so that they’d know they are loved and wouldn’t have to feel sad or angry or hurt anymore. I still feel that way but more toned down, now I let people be and I love them but I allow them to show me their fruit and I listen very carefully to what they say. Jesus Christ said “you will know them by their fruit.” And He also said “out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks” meaning we can hear in their words where their heart is. And with that I am gentle as a dove and wise as a serpent, I love on people who need/want it by allowing God’s love to shine through me and by sharing the gospel and those who don’t want it I just walk away until they are ready.
@@InterwebUser-ps7ju when I first began to believe I got roped into a Calvinist baptist church and started to sound like Paul's defense attorney.
I think 95% of my paranoia is from my own bad decision making.
I say roped in because my gut was saying no but everyone around me was saying yes so I joined the church.
@@InterwebUser-ps7ju so to protect myself from any future deception I just... i guess started seeing everyone as someone who was trying to trick me.
@@ChristinaFromRUclips My testimony is that I wasn’t raised Christian, I was born into a non practicing Catholic family and then I got into witchcraft/new age and then I turned atheist. I was atheist for about 7-8 years before I had my encounter with God. I was in my home, no Bible, no preacher, not even the gospel, just me at home in my PJ’s. I called my brother and asked told him maybe his God could help me, he said yes and prayed with me over the phone. I was needing God and calling out to Him and BAM! I had a supernatural encounter right then and there! I was in the spirit meeting God seconds into that prayer, I couldn’t even hear my brother anymore, I was hearing God, He branded my heart with the truth He gave me His everlasting gospel, He showed me so much love and compassion and kindness, I knew this was my Creator and I immediately loved Him back and wanted to follow Him. I mean, just true pure love and joy that I had never had in my entire life, such beauty and wonderfulness. He showed me in that moment that He is the way the truth and the life and I decided to follow Him. My life hasn’t been the same since, praise God. His Holy Spirit has convicted me of sin and I obey what He tells me. I went to a church soon after that because I was told to and I felt in my spirit something wrong with that but I went thinking maybe these are God’s people. I went to a baptist church for the first time in my life, and I was there for a little over a year but the Lord God pulled me out and showed me things so now I just fellowship with other children of God wherever that me be whether it be online, in the grocery store, friends of friends, on the street, just wherever, home churches ect. and it’s awesome.
@@InterwebUser-ps7ju my knowledge of God initially came from the wild space magic of the other thread. I was a chemistry student and all of those "transmutation" processes need an initial catalyst but have no catalyst.
I started with "intelligent design" because it at least gave me a catalyst for that fusion process of hydrogen I mentioned in the sun thread.
It was a really cold, clinical "well these processes had to start somewhere" belief at first for me.
@@ChristinaFromRUclips even the chemical and science of it all declares a God 😄💕 Hallelujah!
Yup. Be wise but harmless
@@bobirving6052 I didn't even realize that I felt cornered but now that I know that's how my mind perceives it I think I can avoid lashing out.
@@bobirving6052 I was just a possum hissing because it's startled 😅
I think it's a form of perfect possession: the person has consented to the demonic to such a degree that there's no longer any difference and they're perfectly or fully possessed. I think for most people there's am internal battle against evil but some just consent to it and eventually it takes over completely.
I think demons can also be generational.. which doesn't mean its inevitable but it is if the person doesn't resist.
I think there is a demonic element but I think our danger lies in what Jesus says in Matthew 24 that because of an increase in lawlessness the love of many will grow cold.
I was reading that as though the lawless are without love in their hearts.
But I had it completely wrong. The lack of love would be in us as a response or even defense mechanism against increased evil in the world.
I know that I personally decided to have no interpersonal relationships whatsoever to "protect myself" and I cornered myself into distrusting everyone past, present, and future and that's a spiritual prison.
That's exactly what the people I try to protect myself from are like.
@@ChristinaFromRUclips
That makes sense.. I'm in the same situation. Just recently lost my only friend for no reason (we weren't very close because I keep people at a distance). It is like a prison, we're not designed to have relationships like snails with protective shells.. but what do you do if as a slug you get squashed over and over.
Maybe that's also why our treasure is meant to be in heaven, like loving God heals us and is the living water?
@@CuriousCattery my whole life I have felt like a puppy people walk by and kick. My earliest memories are adults saying things to get me upset because they thought me freaking out was funny.
I just kept being myself until I came to understand that Paul was false and then I felt like maybe the puppy has been kicked enough and I can fight back now. Like enough is enough.
But the more I have gone in that direction the more I think that's what most people are doing. They're scared and defending themselves. They see us puppies being kicked and say "no never that!" And become even colder.
Now there are absolutely evil people who enjoy being evil but its not going to help me to treat everyone like they belong in that category.
I'm not going to be safer I'm just going to be cold and paranoid.
Its even almost like because we know people want to extinguish the light we do what Jesus said not to and hide the light under a basket so they can't blow it out.
@@ChristinaFromRUclips
It's definitely the wrong direction and the one most of us go in.
What I think is we need a church for people who've seen through Paul and won't kick each other.
I feel very kicked around as well.. but I've also done some kicking, mostly when I was young and stupid but I still am stupid. Like I was the passenger in a car the other day and the driver was swearing at people and calling them fools and I didn't have the guts to say anything, I just agreed.
You definitely shouldn't hide your light, your YT channel is a part of that light :)
I am going to take on the praying for the healing of trauma so that people can turn to him. I mean maybe it's people who need healed first.
I had to be healed of the whole drunken thing first.
I want to even pray for the healing of trauma of people I know for sure genuinely do hate me like "philanthropists."
Its not like I could make the situation worse that way.
My mom used to say "hurt people hurt people" and it sounded like quite the excuse to me then. But what if there's real truth in that and it can be altered spiritually through prayer??
Getting hit doesn't hurt as much if you brace yourself for it. A righteous man doesn't get "tricked" into getting hurt. He signs up for it by doing what is right. Ironically, by trying to escape the inevitable pain, it will hurt more because it will then catch them off guard. Because they gave themselves false assurance that they could avoid it altogether.
What that man is describing is called "dog eat dog" and it is a principle that this fallen world operates by. But Jesus teaches us not to be "dog eat dog" but rather "sheep feed sheep"..
Matthew 20:25-28 NIV
Jesus called them together and said, “You know that the rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. [26] Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, [27] and whoever wants to be first must be your slave--- [28] just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Matthew 5:39-44 NIV
But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. [40] And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. [41] If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. [42] Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. [43] “You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' [44] But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you
@@seekingtheoncesaved2834 this is in regards to emotional trauma and neglect creating maladaptive behaviors but that is a good point to pray for them!
My mom was referencing like lashing out at people not physical harm. Sorry I didn't clarify!
@@ChristinaFromRUclips I know. And Jesus isn't literally talking about physical harm even though he says "strike". The point is, it's our natural, fleshly, instinct to pass pain on to the next person rather than absorb it. Whatever pain that may be..
@@seekingtheoncesaved2834 you said "getting hit" so I thought you believed that's what I was referencing.
There's the old and very weird saying about many ways to skin a cat.
I think that's the case with maladaptive behavior.
If they can't make you behave like them one way - for example through emulating Paul they will get you through protecting yourself from the Pauls of the world.
But the trick is you'll see Paul in nearly everyone because he became all things to all people.
Sneaky, sneaky.
But the Father is freeing me from that snare, thankfully!!