Mo Uri Why not study how this 'Pandemic' is playing out? 1:1000 to 1:2000 fatal outcomes. Pop back in five years once the miserable penury of mass employment has reaped its death toll. Never mind destruction of families, communities, degraded life opportunities. Sweden did the right thing, shield the vulnerable and stay alert.
As a swede I am offended by your ignorance, 5700 have passed away, Trump have even managed it better as the death toll in Sweden is way higher than in the US.
The world is a much better place when fearless and intelligent people who are well grounded in the moral and logical aspects their profession are making decisions.
@pproust There lots of intelligent people in america for example but the challenge is that the news media groups are a crazy hindrance. They are owned by a greedy set of human beings. Also most of them have allowed their political bias to disable their ability to make sound judgement. Their country is gradually becoming one big open world TV series
@@victorchrist9899 That's what I've gathered from reading (to me foreign) US news too. There are experts that on a basic level can agree on what to do, but it's to a high degree politicians that communicate some and selected parts of what can be done. It made it hard to get a clear message. In the very first I listened to I had figures of tests, cases and beds being reported, but without any analysis following it, it was not clear whether that was 'good news, we're patting our backs', or a warning sign.
@pproust Looser of the battle agains COVID 19 remains to be in front of cameras; he has no honor everything in sweden failed, no material enough , no herd immunity no tests enough but the most criminal is absence of rules for masks only because Tegnell does not believe himself in masks when one billion people does believe
Did you hear what he said? He said "I don't know". Can you imagine any so-called expert being interviewed on American television saying "I don't know"? He sound almost like a real scientist, an honest scholar, or a grown-up. How refreshing.
Actually he was interviewed by Christiane Amanpour around the same time and her interview was rubbish compared to Freddie's. She kept asking multiple pointed questions, and got only defensive partial answers as a consequence.
The blunders Sweden made were the same as others made, regarding nursing homes. Difference is that they didn't enforce a dystopian environment on their citizens for months.
@@hayleylongster4698 and the ugly kind of death ... hunger , violence ... the lot ... not to mention fear , stress , mistrust , lack of empathy and education ...
Sven Å. Carlsson what if majority of swedes liked that there was no hard lockdown, respect distances and have no elder relatives that died, and just trust the long term strategy from Tegnell, does it make you mad?
But not the old and the sick. They've been condemned to staying in isolation until a vaccine is found, and have to risk their lives when they need to seek healthcare since no one there is wearing facemasks.
The one country where epidemic and pandemic policy is set by its chief epidemiologist, not by the political class. When people say "follow the science" they conveniently forget that only one place has to follow the science by law, and that this guy is the scientist. My unending admiration to Sweden, an oasis of reason in a desert of unreason.
@@JoseFranco9 True, though there is some marginal evidence that shows Japan may have immunity to covid-19 from previous exposure to other sars events. Nevertheless, Japan, a country with a high median age, very densely populated areas and a lockdown that was very late and very light, hasn't had anywhere near the bad outcomes the doomsayers were predicting.
This guy is the single biggest hero of the year of the global panic 2020. While everybody else on the whole planet reacted with confusion, tunnel vision and overreaction this guy remained calm, collected, and focussed. Sweden can be proud.
@CHINA IS TRASH Yea ok, that convinced me. Lets all tunnel vision and overreact like headless chicken so we become immortal again, like we used to be before COVID-19.
@CHINA IS TRASH Even if the lockdown was causal for this difference, the Danish deaths are only postponed for a few months for the price of killing the economy which will cause much more life years lost than the virus ever could. Tunnel vision and overreaction are the most efficient killers of all. Nobody would fly in a plane that would be piloted by the Danish government. Only the general panic and confusion due to the constant panic porn in the media made people agree with the lunacy of the lockdown.
@CHINA IS TRASH The Swedish economy was hit the least of all countries. They have reached herd immunity already while the Danish only kicked the can a little further down the road. Even in Sweden the hospitals never got anywhere near capacity during the peak months. The majority of deaths occured in care homes which the Swedes happily admit to be due to mistakes made on their side regarding their care home policies. (Unlike Cuomo in New York or Fauci who celebrated Cuomo for his world record death rate). Entrusting the health of the vulnerable to the good-will, intellect, and reliability of an anonymous mass of strangers is nothing short of stupid and arrogant. For the vast majority (prbly you too) the masks and the lockdown measures are some kind of virtue signaling, a public symbolic sacrifice, almost like this was a religion. All this shit has no scientific basis, and Im sure that the decision makers themselves consider the lockdown and the masks as a placebo to bridge the gap to the vaccine, and as a lever to push for mandatory vaccination. Dont forget, there is a SHIT ton of money to be made with tests and vaccines. People have no idea.
Fully agree it is always refreshing to hear Tegnell or Giesecke from Sweden, they have also no problem to say that they don't know certain things or that something has gone wrong. Top Interview
@@waltervandijk5098 The thing is that Tegnell have been wrong every time he's said what he think is going to happen. literally every time he's been in tv. He's been naive at every stage of this until he realized hes been wrong every time. Travel to and from Sweden should have been limited from the start, and we should have had a partial lockdown in our main cities as soon as the first case was confirmed. But Sweden decided on herd immunity meaning Tegnell wanted as many as possible to get infected, meaning he was ok with big numbers of death cases because of the "maybe" that is the possibility that it would be better in the long run. and so far it has looked like he was wrong in that too. He shouldn't take risks with peoples lives like that. And going against WHO was also an interesting choice. He said early on that Sweden is right and everyone else is wrong. his own words, guess who has been wrong so far?
@Roger Andersson You have taken facts and twisted them into a political agenda narrative. Take a look at the infection trends over the past 5 weeks in Sweden. Take a look at the reduction in hospitalizations and deaths. ALL have declined sharply and the overall trend is in a solid decline. Your comparisons are incorrect. Simply because a country is neighboring does not indicate a valid comparison. Would you compare the US with Mexico? Of course not. This is not a simple issue but a complex one that is also complicated. I wonder if you didn't just go on this tirade without watching the interview
@@DJayFreeDoo Sweden and Tegnell followed an evidence based and reasonable approch instead of being led by blind panic of politicians. More reason can be found in the Interview that is so refreshing.
I really like what I have seen from this interviewer through all of this. I haven't seen all the videos but I think he is great compared to interviewers in the mainstream. I have found myself frustrated with him a few weeks ago because I couldn't quite figure out what side of the arguement he was on based on the range of questions he was asking. I then realised that he was doing exactly what an interviewer should do which was being unbiased and fair. He saw him challeng a guest who was FOR something in the same way he challenged another guest who had a different point of view. And I never see him cut off his guests, giving them freedom to respond in the way they choose. GOOD WORK, there should be many more like him.
Anders Tegnell and his team have been an absolute beacon of hope for rational thought and democratic government when virtually all other countries have lost their minds employing mediaeval policies based on flawed or absent science. I think a lot of people would have jumped out the window in despair if there wasn't at least one country sticking up for commonsense and democratic freedoms.
Tegnell is heavily criticised in Sweden for been wrong about everything he has said and still delivering lies and wrong prognoses. Sorry, but everything he has said has been proven wrong, and he still continues after half a year like nothing has happened.
@@mistsretrolibrary What you say is not true. Just for your information. You don't understand the differences between a Swedish democratic approach to this situation and the ones you see in all other countries. This democratic Swedish approach means a totally open, wide and deep discussion throughout the society from day one. This is part of the old Swedish tradition of constructive and creative criticism. It is a rare thing hardly seen with such consequence in any other country. For your background information.
As a Swede I really appreciate Dr Tegnell's work. It's hard to say for sure if it would have been different if the decisions had been different, but I LOVE that these are decisions are based on what they think is the correct way of dealing with it, and NOT to score points with the public for the sake of it. Cheers!
The decision is made to do the minimum amount. Did you know covid 19 can give you neurological problems even if you have had mild symptoms, Tegnell won't tell you that he wants you to think that it's a flu that only kills old people. Taiwan, New Zealand, and Greece have done much better, and Sweden has got the worst death rate in Europe. So you are happy with that LOL !!
Courageous? If Anders Tegnell had any real balls he would admit that his strategy is an utter failure and that he and his pals are responsible for not protecting the swedish people.
Dr. Anders Tegnell, please know that you are highly talked and admired from all over the world. We should have all used your model. As with any epidemic there are and will be victims regardless. Maintain your confidence and stand your ground. You proved to be one of the few that truly care about their country and their citizens.
Finally someone who is not hysterical.. but science based and has a clean view of this virus and who are the most vulnerable Let’s learn from him and Sweden
if you want in Brittany 150.000 death learn from him Better look at Taiwan and south Korea I am moere attracted to systems who works spares life without lockdown
You are my hero, mister Anders. You are the reason why I believe that authoritarianism failed to take over the world. I hope it stays this way in the places where there is still such freedom available at least.
How and when did Americans and the British lose their minds? People die of all kinds of things - easily preventable things - all the time. Yet this is the only one we are completely hysterical about.
Excessive media, over-use of social media, grasping politicians, and the fact that we have done our best to raise a generation of fragile, pusillanimous, effete young adults who have been spared any understanding of the realities of life.
The Agenda is mass compulsory vaccinations. Everything the WHO has advised has been detrimental to the health of all citizens.Even the mask wearing will cause ill health not to mention the impact fear and stress puts on the immune system. The Plan was plain to see from very early on when Bill Gates went on TV and said nothing will ever go back to normal until a vaccine is found and he is the biggest single funder of the WHO, I think its around 4.3 Billion. In the UK he has also given funding to the BBC, Chris Witty (Englands chief medical officer) and imperial college London, where the over exaggerated models came from which caused the lockdowns. He has not given all this money away for nothing, The ICL caused the Lockdowns, The BBC have been pushing the fear and I can guarentee that Chris Witty and Matt Hancock will push for mandatory vaccinations. Bill Gates has said he wants to vaccinate the whole world, and this new virus will probably mutate every year giving him a never ending supply of customers. It will also be a perfect time for Bill to introduce his Identification chips into the human race - all done in the name of saving the planet.
In my day being ill meant you were actually.... Er. ... Ill! Lol Basically now they are effectively saying that anyone who lives and breathes is a biohazard that needs to be contained.
I guess if you are the panicked, curled up in a ball in the corner of your room type. The concern is that the more people that are infected the more likely that someone 'vulnerable' will be infected and.... Die. More likely people are just being paniced by the media, using dodgy worst case scenario modelling. Or just plain old sensationalism. Because they believe they make more money that way. And far too many people haven't figured out that the media can't be trusted to report things relatively unbiased. They aren't seeking the truth. But the truth doesn't pay the bills for them. I have a hard time with smart, savvy and succesful people who don't look beyond the regular media trying to convince them that they maybe they have it wrong. Certainly not saying I'm right, but it would seem fairly obvious that the disaster forecasting is very very wrong. I'd love to know how to snap people out of it generally. Scares me quite a bit. That kind of thinking led to bad things happening in the past, no reason they can't happen again. I guess it's already happening.
he has no better basis of science and others bigger countries, he was in Congo fighting Ebola this is really courageous. All the specialists have not the same opinion and Tegnells strategy is in minority
Dr. Tegnell is a hero for clear-eyed interpretation of science and staying strong in face of global panic. Compliments also our Unherd host for making these excellent interviews happen. Looking forward to re-visiting the Sweden story next year... I think it's going to be good!!
Apparently you're pretty easy to fool then. Have you even looked that the individual stats for the rest of the Nordics? It doesn't make Sweden look good.
@@kebman Stop looking at one number and understand how they are presented. It aint black and white. In the end of the year Sweden will not had any excess deaths, like any other nordic country. We just present it different.
Believe it or not, the Belgian press still has the guts to criticize the Swedish approach, and mindlessly defend the Belgian approach. Living in Belgium now is like living in a bad nightmare, with new tighter measures announced almost daily now. I'm thinking of going to the Netherlands where I have a place to stay, or move to Sweden (I have a degree in Nordic languages).
Hi Inge, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I live in Brussels and I feel like I am in some kind of episode of Black Mirror. I am seriously beginning to question whether I am the one losing my mind, or whether Belgian society has completely lost its collective mind. I went to Scheveningen the other day, just to spend a day in a society of normal human beings. Like you, I cannot take this madness for much longer. The Belgian press has revealed itself to be a completely unthinking regurgitation machine of the Conseil national de securite and the cadre of state virologists who I am beginning to believe are utterly brain dead (or perhaps are simply doubling down on what they now know was a terrible mistake).
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Yes, it seems that they don’t want to look at our statistics, just our initial failures. The initial failures are fair to criticize, but there are many factors to consider, something most papers don’t have time or diligence to do.
In Victoria Australia they have deployed military on the state-borders to prevent anyone leaving, they have police helicopters flying around constantly every day, police drones spying on people's movements, and every day on the media is more vicious propaganda, complete with state-directed name-calling ("Selfish Australians" is the most common one for dissenters of current policy), regular verbal attacks on the public, now to the point that people who aren't wearing a mask, even if they are just trying to eat while walking are being routinely abused on the streets by fellow citizens. It's really starting to get quite spooky here, and if you try to leave Victoria you get an inordinate un-payable fine for many (thus arrested) of thousands of dollars, and when someone tries to publicly suggest a more Swedish approach they get attacked with the same rhetoric being used in every draconian place - "DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE 5,000 DEATHS IN SWEDEN?" as if Sweden doesn't have 90,000 deaths every year from all causes.
@@tommyboman7735 Indeed! You would think that with such a result on Belgium there would be loud pleas to fire all those in charge. I am not saying they are completely to blame, air pollution may play a role, as may resistance to antibiotics due to past overprescribing, but still.
I look at Dr. Tegnell and am impressed with how he deals with someome trying to get him out if the room to address other matters. He is just locked in the moment and keeps solid attention to the interviewer. No stress, just keeps calm. This is just on top of all the logical responses he gives and his honesty clear in the answers he gives....No pretence 👍
The best expert around! And so diplomatic! I am sure, if he was not in this state position, he would speak more freely, also about the other countries lockdowns...
Looser of the battle agains COVID 19 remains to be in front of cameras; he has no honor everything in sweden failed, no material enough , no herd immunity no tests enough but the most criminal is absence of rules for masks only because Tegnell does not believe himself in masks when one billion people does believe
louis ecorchevolle oh yeah the majority is always right 😂😂🙈 go on and believe, I am not here to convince anyone... and by the way, there is no battle 😉
Eric Van Grasdorff you do not live in Sweden I do. Nobody like him. He tolk a lot shit and the statisk is totally wrong. He have relatives that make fotune on vaccin.
louis ecorchevolle I have children in Germany and I am indeed frightened by what the State is imposing on us, I as a father have almost nothing to say anymore, and this state of health dictatorship is what frightens me! Children have nothing to fear, as long as they are and live healthy - but fear and panic will make them sick. Guess what Germans bought in supermarkets when the lockdown came? Pasta and toilet paper, fresh fruit und vegetables had to be thrown away regularly, yes, this is how you make population sick, bravo! If you look deeper, we just a test, and the test is the whole problem. It only test for certain molecules, does not say anything about being sick or not. It is the dumbest thing I have seen in my life, and only possible through fear. Sweden has not played with fear. But hey, believe what you want, I am tolerant, the problem is that State und society are not any more tolerant, but we have started to prosecute them in court, history will tell...
Martinus Asp will know a year from now when we compare not only deaths, but the mental, economic and physical health problems in countries that chose to lockdown instead.
@@Gloriavalery Looser of the battle agains COVID 19 remains to be in front of cameras; he has no honor everything in sweden failed, no material enough , no herd immunity no tests enough but the most criminal is absence of rules for masks only because Tegnell does not believe himself in masks when one billion people does believe
2 years later and the pandemic over.? It would be very interesting to get a followup with Dr Tegnell. Today I'm getting news that the Swedish "death rates" during the pandemic was actually lower than other countries...
@@TheCompleteGuitarist no. On every damn aspect of this whole debacle he has been wrong and then when pressed about it he comes up with nonsensical obfuscations and lies to save face.
@@mocha753 Because the people who are arguing for their right to be free are forgetting that others also have the same right and nobody should be able to take away other peoples right to live freely at the expense of others with the same rights. Stopping the spread of this illness was a way to protect everyone's freedom to live. The elderly and disabled have the same rights as you. There is no freedom when you are dead. So the sacrifice to protect lives was about protecting everyone's right to freedom. Instead so many people have only thought of themselves at the expense of other peoples right to freedom. You don't deserve freedom. Someone fought for your right to choose and you selfishly made it all about you instead of being about giving as many people the option as possible.
Yes, tons of people will move to Sweden, for the freedom of seeing their grandparents die. I mean, their socialist government has better things to use tax money on, after all. But at least everyone gets the same treatment! Well, as long as you're not an ethnic Swede, that is.
Absolutely brilliant interview, thank you. Whether you agree with what was said or not it's such a pleasure to have sensible questions put to the interviewee and time given to allow him to answer without interruption. Top marks!
As an informed US citizen, I see Sweden's method as the most logical and effective. But any method can only be compared to methods used under similar cultures and societies. The mindset of US is far from that of Sweden. This is unfortunate in many ways but particularly now with covid. I am a boomer who hasnt trusted my gov since mid 60s. In fact I have a deep mistrust. The concept of having a gov comprised of brilliant women and men dedicated to the common good of all is fantastical to me, but I will not stop fighting for change. My country's survival depends on it.
The Sweden's method with 561 deaths/million, the fifth highest in the world is the most logical and effective? How do you rate Taiwan with 0.3 deaths/million then?
@@btango6929 I think that's a really interesting point. Perhaps only time will tell whether it's sensible to seek a middle ground such as Sweden has or go for the extinguish Covid approach. Countries that are extinguishing Covid presumably do so at an economic cost that perhaps is unsustainable. I guess if a vaccine is around the corner Sweden might look dumb and yet there's definitely an attraction in government avoiding becoming dictatorial.
@Erik Lerström I don't agree. It's a two part assessment. Firstly could the country extinguish Covid and if not how effectively they live with Covid. Both questions are relevant. But it's certainly true that government can only do so much without public buy in.
Great interview! Anders Tegnell is very informative, calm and admits his failures which is very rare to see from someone in the public eye. But more important is we can see he is learning from the failures. At first I thought Sweden plan of action was incorrect. As each week that goes by the death rates continue to be lower and lower I feel Sweden are leading the world in showing how to treat the disease and how to live with the disease.
He did the opposite in this interview. He did specifically NOT admit the failures; listen for example on the strategic story telling at minute 09:00-10:00. I really dont understand how you manage to get tricked by these kinds of politics, so it would be helpful if you could share what part of this interview made you think that any failures where admitted.
As a swede I would say that most of the feedback around our strategy is pretty balanced domestically. Granted there are a few caps-lock crusaders that are talking about what a disaster things are but most swedes do not agree. We do not live in fear and our society is open. Most people show respect by keeping their distance and the daily death's from Covid-19 is low at this point. We know we are not perfect and that we did some mistakes but over time we have a sustainable strategy. I really do not hope that the rest of the world will eventually catch up with our death per capita but it is definitely a risk. But humanity is resilient and innovative and we will solve this eventually.
You wrote "We do not live in fear". Here in Netherland people now too try that, is my impression. I'm happy about that change. The respond of some of the politicians is that people must have more fear again, that's why Rotterdam and Amsterdam now oblige to wear a mask in some streets. It's an experiment, planned to start next Wednesday. To make people think more about the virus. As if we don't think enough at it yet ... In Netherland the MSM is the worst, pushing the masks idea through almost 24 hours a day last week. I'm surprised and proud about the politicians because they did not succumb to that pressure (yet). Still not easy to predict the future, but currently it looks in general like stopping/slowing this virus just means getting the delayed part later.
He’s very balanced and I’m sure wouldn’t want to be seen to be being triumphalistic - but by any measure the Swedish response, whilst not perfect, has been an unqualified success when compared to similar countries that locked down. Quite simply, they’ve demonstrated that it’s possible to limit the impact of Covid without incurring the devastating costs of full lockdown. Given the extent to which deaths in Sweden occurred in long term care facilities, I feel it’s highly doubtful that a full lockdown in Sweden would’ve prevented more than a modest proportion of the deaths. Compare that to the inevitable costs (and death toll) of a full lockdown and it becomes impossible to see how the Swedish approach can be seen as a failure. I find it somewhat depressing that in the UK we didn’t manage to have the measured discussions in the public domain that may have led to a similar approach. Consequently we’re now seeing and therefore starting to finally acknowledge that in terms of lockdowns, the attempted prevention is more deadly than the disease itself.
recur68 we rely quite a lot on import in Sweden too, so if other countries are affected a lot, the effects would spread between countries a lot too, or so is my assumption on it anyways
@ecwaufisxtreme, you are absolutely right. Let's see what really happens to New Zealand after the unsustainable policy of keeping their nation locked down from any international travel in or out of their borders.
"but by any measure the Swedish response, whilst not perfect, has been an unqualified success when compared to similar countries that locked down." The are no more similar countries (with locked down) then the next door Nordic neighbors: Denmark, Norway and Finland. These three countries with a combined population of 16,758,434, which is 65.88% higher than Sweden's 10,103,020. However, the total deaths in Sweden (5667) is 4.75 times that of the Nordic neighbors combined (1195). Success? Really? BTW, the UK is very different from the Nordics in many ways.
If you talking about Tegnel. Legally he suppose to be neutral due to swedish law. GD are not to have a political affiliation. While in reality, this is broken quite regularly.
Really lovely interview Freddie with ultra sensible Anders Tegnell who is not afraid to admit mistakes made with care homes and so many immigrants but also astute enough to say " Judge me in a year's time" I wish all our leaders were as open. Thank you both. Excellent name "Unheard" but leave out TV in case you might get mixed up with MSM- God forbid!
I have such great admiration for Anders Tegnell, and the Swedish government who supported him, despite what must have been enormous peer pressure and fear mongering from other so called "experts" around the world. And through it all, he's so humble ... the first to admit that their measures may also not be perfect; the first to say "I'm not sure" if certain projections cannot be made with 100% accuracy. When many of us questioned the unheard of lockdowns that were happening around the world, Swedens response helped to reassure me that I'm not crazy in thinking that literally shutting down the world was the sane response to this virus.
This biggest single decision was to keep the schools open. The pressure was enourmous to close them, especially from right-wing politicians/authoritarians, but I think the general public was rather well-informed that children aren't as much affected by covid-19. And with schools open, the kids felt a sense of normality, and we parents got less anxious. The heroes were the teachers, school bus drivers and other personnel who made it work.
@@leojson7351 That's one of the crazy aspects of all this... the general public in all countries know that children will rarely be affected, yet they are too afraid to re-open schools fully. I feel very sad for how children will be affected by the shutdown in most countries.
Tegnell, my hero. The one person in all governements in the world that used his brain, and had the guts to to actually implement the sensible measures despite the mass fear.
Tom Woods has a very intelligent speech on this matter. The crux of it is that we have to recognize that there is more to being alive than just biologically alive. This devastated economy and lock down have robbed us of our "lives", to what end? If I have to live like this, I'd rather no live. This is robbing me of my life...and to what end? To save the elderly who in most cases were within a few months at the end of their lifecycle? Did anyone ask the elderly if they wanted their grandchildren deprived of the things that gave them so much pleasure in their youth? Did they ask them if they wanted lockdowns in their name if it would deprive their children of the prosperity that they enjoyed during their working years? The elderly I am aware of all said , no. I am nearly 60 years and I say , no. Life is meant to be lived. To stop living over a virus (that the WHO and all statisticians agree that dying from ,if you are under 75, is a RARE event), is madness. Life is just inherently risky.
@@gertrudewest4535 well said. The elderly in my surrounding say the same thing. Its frightening how easy western countries are willing to give up basic freedoms out of fear. Its an strong indication of how much we are in decline morrally.
@@dallysinghson5569 you mean in the elder care homes? I guess thats true. And its true for almost all European countries. Here the WHO is partly to blame, because they wrote very bad guidance which has been adopted more or less by these countries. I think in general the role of WHO has been disastrous, and continues to be. Anyway, it would have saved a lot of lives if people would have focused maybe exclusively on protecting the elderly, instead of containing the virus.
Every time I read comments on a covid video about Sweden, I lose a bit of hope in humanity... This was an amazing exception! Thanks for replenishing some of my lost hope! And thank you to Anders for keeping our country as great as it has ever been.
“There seems to be a close connection to how many people introduced the disease at the same time… The spring holidays in Sweden are spread over four different weeks depending on different geographical regions. Unfortunately Stockholm happened to have its spring holiday just when there was an enormous spread of Covid-19 in Europe … so a lot of Swedes living in the Stockholm area came back with the disease. And that started an epidemic on a level that was much higher than the start of the epidemic in the South of Sweden, or in Finland or in Norway. Currently that’s to me the most likely theory - that if you have a massive introduction, it’s going to be a disease that is very, very hard to control.” Why I like this man so much is that he use the words "seem to be" and "most likely". It sounds right, but we can not be certain. Yet. But we know that we had a lof of people infected in Sweden before any lockdown in any country occured and we also know that the cases/deaths now are declining in a similar way to other european countries that imposed lockdown.
don't listen to this clown. It's the same guy who told swede's that it was perfectly fine to go skiing in northern Italy because the virus "hadn't spread there yet". Well low and behold, they got infected and brought it back....the damage this man has done is immense.
In Sweden yes, but not so in other countries. For example why did UK not close their border, a lot of silly decisions. Also you can still criticize Sweden for not locking down like Denmark. Short term lockdowns worked to radically reduce cases and stop spread.
Sweden has 10x as more deaths than its neighbouring countries. 10x! That means several thousands survived to live another day in Norway, Finland and Denmark. That means they now stand a much better chance of getting a _cure._ Tegnell just let all of the people he was supposed to safeguard die. Tegnell should go to jail for criminal neglect.
kebman yes but Sweden will not have a second wave as corona has run its course and is ending in Sweden . The neighbouri g countries have had a huge increase in cases since ” reopening ” and Norway is now locking down again . Lockdown seems to just delay corona not stop it
@@simonnilsson5356 He's balanced, measured and intelligent. Which is clear after listening to him speak for about 3 seconds. That's why people want to talk to the man.
I was hesitant to click on this video at first because I'm so tired of international media bashing and humiliating Sweden's response to the virus. I was pleasantly surprised that this interviewer gave an unbiased interview, even though the swedish model isn't perfect. I live in SE and have family in DK and FI and hear alot from them what media there is writing. With their great efforts and some help from Covid, the already massive Hatred towards Sweden as a country and swedes as a population has increased tenfold.
I am very sorry to hear that hatred toward Sweden has increased for one I admire your courage. And be aware that hatred towards people who think differently everywhere has increased due to increase of fear which causes agression 🌐♥️🙏
Absolutely, here in the UK we seem to have a government hell bent on torturing us with nonsensical rules, they are even talking about mandating gloves. It's as if they want to destroy our economy and way of life.
S Q Apologies, the comment was for the lucky Johan. Lucky that he wasn’t in a nursing home with a cough. They got denied oxygen and got a Brompton cocktail instead. Lucky that he wasn’t one of the younger school kids sent out to act as community spreaders, not knowing at the time that they were practically immune. I don’t have a lot of faith in governments either, but I have even less in Sweden’s psychopath practitioners.
It's wrong to say he nailed it.. but he was quite a bit closer than all european nations. My guess is you are not swedish. Tegnel said some ... well.. uninformed stuff in the beginning of the pandemic. Mostly that children could not carry it, and that it would not be contagious in sweden.
@@matsv201 Who didn't get stuff wrong initially? Anders was wrong about a few things sure, but you tell me, who has been 100% correct from day 1 about this disease?
matsv201 but cuomo stuff old people with covid with other old sick people and kill hundreds but you wanna complain about one thing give the guy a break he did the best
suddenly the government cares about people dying. I never heard a proposal to stop all car trafic (over 1.000.000 deaths EVERY year ) and cigarettes are still being sold and even young people can still start smoking. Sice when the government has become so sensitive
You are totally right, wim lammens. Here near the in Washington, DC, they actually lowered the speed limit from 25 to 20 MPH. They are so paranoid in their logic as if they are hypochondriacs. I am surprised that they don't want to outright ban automobile traffic since there are sooo many road-related accidents. Smoking is another great topic. What about the millions who die of second-hand smoke? Why don't they ban cigarettes during this Covid-19 mess? Certainly, smoking and second-hand smoke is known for messing up respiratory systems, which can apparently ill-afford it in the current climate!
@@michaelhansson1242 Mainly, his continued employment as an "epidemiologist" and the fact he's not been remanded in custody pending criminal prosecution, as far as I can see.
"The word technocrat can refer to someone exercising governmental authority because of their knowledge, or "a member of a powerful technical elite", or "someone who advocates the supremacy of technical experts". It depends on your knowledge. If you have read The Technocracy Rising, you'd get my remark. I've read the book. Here's a lecture by the author Patrick M. Wood ruclips.net/video/B9LdAjWNOTc/видео.html (P.S. I am pro-technology and pro-expert knowledge but against corruption).
Switzerland took Sweden down from the list with risk countries. I am happy with that. That means they will get some tourists and unfortenately I can‘t travel to Sweden this year. German viroligist Drosten said im May that the virus wil get milder during time. Karl Sikora (former WHO) said the virus could be gone before a vaccine comes. And yes we need more selfconfident and calm epidemiologists like Anders.
I have already spotted the odd Belgian and Dutch tourist in Sweden. Last weekend I even spotted some Danes at a restaurant on the outskirts of Stockholm speaking in hushed voices.
Yes, we have produced a generation of authoritarians. Something the Left Wing always produces. Vote them out now before we become the next collectivist nightmare.
what he should've said (but he's never boastful) -how would you like to be judged? -I followed the science and I respected every aspects of a pandemic, to better the health of society as a whole that's courage, it's NEVER wrong, and it's not political
The best way to wear the hoodie is back to front, with the hood up. Don’t worry about not being able to see, you are clearly blind to the truth already.
The intensive care units in the Swedish capital region Stockholm reached 99 percent capacity on Tuesday (8/12/2020) for the first time during the coronavirus pandemic, as the region's head of healthcare called on all Stockholmers to follow recommendations more strictly
Unfortunately the human brain is very compartmentalized. People will surprise you with how smart they are in some areas and then disappoint you with how dumb they are in other areas. Unfortunately countries are probably the same way.
Sweden suffer severely from a more serious pandemic called political correctness. Try saying objectively true things about the state of affairs on virtually any topic, and see what happens. Post modernism is a thing of evil disguised as good intentions, fairness, and equality.
Im a swede. I dont agree with everything Tegnell says or all the decisions he's made. But I do think very highly of him, he has done a very good job in very difficult and taxing times.
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Sweden has implemented THE rational and evidence driven approach. It will be the future approach studied I reckon. For those of us in countries that have used other methods, with which we disagree, but have no choice, Dr Tegnell is our hero. Well done Freddy for this most timely and excellent interview
sorry, what? What part of 5800 deaths, an overwhelmingly large number compared to the neighbouring countries sounds like an evidence based approach to you? What part of the Swedish economy doing worse than all of its neighbours - who went into lockdown - makes you think this method paid off?
@@prabashwayne7088 Why would you compare neighboring countries? Would you compare the US to Mexico? Of course not. Personally I don't see the value of comparison. It's not a competition. Each country is essentially a closed system. In the US each State is a closed system with policy and consequence a function of the State Governor. The majority of the deaths, around 75% has been explained openly by Sweden. It involves the large frail care nursing homes that were not protected by quarantine early in the outbreak. So the deaths are of people around 80 - 90 years old already with comorbidities and so weak immune systems. This has been rectified, At no time has Sweden tried to evade the reality that a terrible mistake was made and the result was thousands of deaths. The brief by the Swedish government was to find a non-politicized approach that did not compromise the rights of Swedes as laid out in the Constitution and at the same time, could be carried on for however long is necessary, maybe years. This was done using evidence based medicine, such as what was already known about viruses and measures. Minemalizing the economic impact. This has been shown to be a successful approach. Over the past two months infections, hospitalizations and deaths have fallen significantly. Bit Sweden is not celebrating. As Dr Anders Tegnell said in an interview with Freddy, this is an unknown situation with a novel virus. As the Swedish foreign minister has said, this is a marathon and not a sprint. The capricious nature of lock downs with forced mask wearing and personal social distancing and the closures of industries in many countries has already been shown to be misguided
@@david-joeklotz9558 Because demographically, culturally, geographically, and economically, they're similar, except for the fact that they chose different methods of combating covid. Therefore its a very relevant comparison to make to see if the swedish method has worked.
@@prabashwayne7088 Sweden's frail care centers are much larger facilities than that of Norway for example. So they are not comparable. Culture and demographics have nothing to do with a viral infection. Sweden follows an approach that is different to its neighbors. This is about scientific approach. It's like comparing a scalar to a vector. They may look similar but are in fact different
@@david-joeklotz9558 The difference between the frail age facilities is not that big, and even if it was, it wouldn't explain the gigantic difference in mortality. The Scandinavian countries have similar percentages of deaths in elderly homes (about 60% of the total figure), but sweden's mortality figure overall is tenfold bigger than Norway. And that's per million citizens. Then there's the fact that the remaining 40% weren't in nursing homes, you can't explain those deaths with any other explanation than our strategy versus theirs. And culture and demography are extremely relevant variables for epidemiology, man. It's one of the reasons why you can mostly only compare similar countries. A country that has a culture of sedentary lifestyle, where the population at large doesn't exercise, or where they regularly consume shitty foods will be at a much higher risk for various diseases than a country that doesn't. Similarly, a country consisting largely out of an elderly, sick population will be hit differently by any disease than a country consisting out of a young, healthy population. This is why a comparisons between largely differing countries is futile because they have different circumstances. Like, ofcourse the UK is going to be hit harder than Sweden as everyone lives closer together, there's a large aging population AND heart disease is more common. So the only relevant comparisons that can be made are between the countries that are similar, such as that between Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland. And lastly, this isn't the ONLY scientific method. Mitigation AND suppression are both scientifically sound methods against pandemics, but clearly mitigation does LESS than suppression against THIS particular pandemic. If that wasn't the case, WE would have the lowest mortality rate amongst our neighbours, and OUR economy would have done the best, but that is not the case. And furthermore, our absolute insistance to not implement face masks shows an absolute resistance to science and evidence. The majority of the scientific literature agrees that face masks works - our insistance that it doesn't shows that even the parts of our approach is not scientific or evidence based at all.
Not every country could or should have handled the pandemic the same way. Both Denmark and Norway went into lockdown and closed borders early...mid March. Denmark having got control early was I believe the first European country to reopen its schools.
Let´s not forget one important reason for that... many countries in europe didn´t oblige people to wear masks because of the shortage of masks in the first 14 weeks. Switzerland, Luxembourg, Czechia had a long lasting lack of masks for example and kept the reserves for medical staff. While germany didn´t let truckloads of masks be exported that already belonged to those countries. This side of the story is still not too popular, but if talking to and listening to doctors around the world, there are many places where disposable masks shall be used over and over again after sterilizing for the use even in modern icu´s. American emergency departments have this trouble right now; maybe people see why the political signal to wear a mask is not brought forward in the us. - they don´t even have masks for everybody.
@j4Rose Well, I'll give them more credit than "hope for the best". That said, some countries had an easier task than others. For example, any place where you had high population density, young living close to old, mass transit and multi international flights bringing in infections from around the world, you are going to have problems. London, New York, etc.
Countries I respect during the Pandemic that did not forced stupid lockdowns and I wish to visit: - Sweden - Japan (only like a week one) - Costa Rica - Nicaragua - Belarus - Madagascar - Tanzania Contrary to popular belief, those countries have of fewer deaths in the world right now. If there are more countries, feel free to tell me.
Nota bene: Swedes love traveling abroad. During february to late march 2020 10% of Swedens tot pop of 10 milion went abroad. This likely introduced the virus on a large scale in Sweden and Stockholm in particular explaining in part why Sweden where hit so hard and early in the pandemic. This pattern of traveling contrasts other scandinavian neighbors like danes, norwegians and finns,who travels much less abroad during that time of the year. This might explain some of the difference of spreading of the virus and death toll compering these scandinavian countries this early of the pandemic.
Mo Uri Since you asked nicely, The reason you’re country was less affected is because you have a high percentage of people who were NOT susceptible to this particular virus. But your response sounded arrogant ......and wrong. We also know different ethnicities have different susceptibilities.
Yes, Stockholm had winter vacation called "sport break", in week 9 (first week of March). The schools are on a break, and a lot of people go on vacation abroad that week. Like for instance the Alps, where the decease were spreading at the time. A lot of people also went to the US, New York is a very popular destination among Stockholmers and other Swedes. And then they unknowingly brought the illness back home, got into taxi cabs, infecting the migrant population, who often have this kind of jobs. And they went home, living and hanging out close with tight knit families, infecting a lot of them. A lot of them work in elder care, so before we knew it the decease was in the elder care facilities. Not that many New Zealanders were skiing in the Austrian and the Italian Alps during week 9, I reckon... So one can´t compare countries like that.
Isn't it refreshing to hear a man speaking like an adult in an intelligent, rational and informed manner.
Mo Uri Why not study how this 'Pandemic' is playing out? 1:1000 to 1:2000 fatal outcomes.
Pop back in five years once the miserable penury of mass employment has reaped its death toll. Never mind destruction of families, communities, degraded life opportunities. Sweden did the right thing, shield the vulnerable and stay alert.
@Mo Uri Shutting down society costs lives.
As a swede I am offended by your ignorance, 5700 have passed away, Trump have even managed it better as the death toll in Sweden is way higher than in the US.
@@UncleBoratagain 5700 have died, what are you implying when you say "playing out"? 5700 is a disaster.
@Mo Uri Dont bother, Tegnell have a cult following, just ignore these trolls.
The world is a much better place when fearless and intelligent people who are well grounded in the moral and logical aspects their profession are making decisions.
@pproust There lots of intelligent people in america for example but the challenge is that the news media groups are a crazy hindrance. They are owned by a greedy set of human beings. Also most of them have allowed their political bias to disable their ability to make sound judgement. Their country is gradually becoming one big open world TV series
@@victorchrist9899 Very true. And people behave as if they were on 'live television'.
@@victorchrist9899 That's what I've gathered from reading (to me foreign) US news too. There are experts that on a basic level can agree on what to do, but it's to a high degree politicians that communicate some and selected parts of what can be done. It made it hard to get a clear message. In the very first I listened to I had figures of tests, cases and beds being reported, but without any analysis following it, it was not clear whether that was 'good news, we're patting our backs', or a warning sign.
...and unfortunately it seems that this becomes scarcer and scarcer as time progresses.
@pproust Looser of the battle agains COVID 19 remains to be in front of cameras; he has no honor everything in sweden failed, no material enough , no herd immunity no tests enough but the most criminal is absence of rules for masks only because Tegnell does not believe himself in masks when one billion people does believe
Did you hear what he said? He said "I don't know". Can you imagine any so-called expert being interviewed on American television saying "I don't know"? He sound almost like a real scientist, an honest scholar, or a grown-up. How refreshing.
Only really smart people can say I don't know!
@@StellaAzul haha so true.
Actually he was interviewed by Christiane Amanpour around the same time and her interview was rubbish compared to Freddie's. She kept asking multiple pointed questions, and got only defensive partial answers as a consequence.
It's common to hear that, I dunno why you're so amazed at this
@@dallysinghson5569 because we live in the UK and have a Tory govt.
The blunders Sweden made were the same as others made, regarding nursing homes. Difference is that they didn't enforce a dystopian environment on their citizens for months.
Or trash their economy.
Apparently a lot of wokeists don't seem to realise a trashed economy results in er..... Death. And lots of it.
Welcome to your echo chamber. Have a seat
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Try years here in the USA. I think we’ll be locked down for 3 years. And every winter for the rest of our lives!!!
@@hayleylongster4698 and the ugly kind of death ... hunger , violence ... the lot ...
not to mention fear , stress , mistrust , lack of empathy and education ...
And their elderly did not have to die alone, without benefit of family or spiritual guidance.
Anders Tegnell is a hero for human rights. Only country in the world that respected their citizens.
Paid swede commentator I assume considering no sane person would defend 5700 deaths that this man have caused.
Because everyone else buckled to press histrionics.
Sven Å. Carlsson what if majority of swedes liked that there was no hard lockdown, respect distances and have no elder relatives that died, and just trust the long term strategy from Tegnell, does it make you mad?
He is a lying idiot.
But not the old and the sick. They've been condemned to staying in isolation until a vaccine is found, and have to risk their lives when they need to seek healthcare since no one there is wearing facemasks.
The one country where epidemic and pandemic policy is set by its chief epidemiologist, not by the political class. When people say "follow the science" they conveniently forget that only one place has to follow the science by law, and that this guy is the scientist. My unending admiration to Sweden, an oasis of reason in a desert of unreason.
Japan also allowed his main cheif virologist, Shigeru Omi, to do the work. 8 excess death and for the entierty of july the day with more deaths was 3.
@@JoseFranco9 True, though there is some marginal evidence that shows Japan may have immunity to covid-19 from previous exposure to other sars events. Nevertheless, Japan, a country with a high median age, very densely populated areas and a lockdown that was very late and very light, hasn't had anywhere near the bad outcomes the doomsayers were predicting.
@ecwaufisxtreme go to hell you disgusting bastard
@ecwaufisxtreme Are you taking the piss? 😂😂😂 #77
Agreed.
This guy is the single biggest hero of the year of the global panic 2020.
While everybody else on the whole planet reacted with confusion, tunnel vision and overreaction this guy remained calm, collected, and focussed. Sweden can be proud.
@CHINA IS TRASH Yea ok, that convinced me. Lets all tunnel vision and overreact like headless chicken so we become immortal again, like we used to be before COVID-19.
@CHINA IS TRASH Even if the lockdown was causal for this difference, the Danish deaths are only postponed for a few months for the price of killing the economy which will cause much more life years lost than the virus ever could.
Tunnel vision and overreaction are the most efficient killers of all. Nobody would fly in a plane that would be piloted by the Danish government. Only the general panic and confusion due to the constant panic porn in the media made people agree with the lunacy of the lockdown.
@CHINA IS TRASH The Swedish economy was hit the least of all countries. They have reached herd immunity already while the Danish only kicked the can a little further down the road. Even in Sweden the hospitals never got anywhere near capacity during the peak months. The majority of deaths occured in care homes which the Swedes happily admit to be due to mistakes made on their side regarding their care home policies. (Unlike Cuomo in New York or Fauci who celebrated Cuomo for his world record death rate).
Entrusting the health of the vulnerable to the good-will, intellect, and reliability of an anonymous mass of strangers is nothing short of stupid and arrogant. For the vast majority (prbly you too) the masks and the lockdown measures are some kind of virtue signaling, a public symbolic sacrifice, almost like this was a religion. All this shit has no scientific basis, and Im sure that the decision makers themselves consider the lockdown and the masks as a placebo to bridge the gap to the vaccine, and as a lever to push for mandatory vaccination. Dont forget, there is a SHIT ton of money to be made with tests and vaccines. People have no idea.
What's wrong with you? Your biggest hero has killed 5700 swedes.
@CHINA IS TRASH Ok, since youre now blatantly lying Im out.
If only Dr. Tegnell's knowledge, honesty and humility were contagious.
Best comment!
Fully agree it is always refreshing to hear Tegnell or Giesecke from Sweden, they have also no problem to say that they don't know certain things or that something has gone wrong. Top Interview
@@waltervandijk5098 The thing is that Tegnell have been wrong every time he's said what he think is going to happen. literally every time he's been in tv. He's been naive at every stage of this until he realized hes been wrong every time. Travel to and from Sweden should have been limited from the start, and we should have had a partial lockdown in our main cities as soon as the first case was confirmed. But Sweden decided on herd immunity meaning Tegnell wanted as many as possible to get infected, meaning he was ok with big numbers of death cases because of the "maybe" that is the possibility that it would be better in the long run. and so far it has looked like he was wrong in that too. He shouldn't take risks with peoples lives like that. And going against WHO was also an interesting choice. He said early on that Sweden is right and everyone else is wrong. his own words, guess who has been wrong so far?
@Roger Andersson You have taken facts and twisted them into a political agenda narrative. Take a look at the infection trends over the past 5 weeks in Sweden. Take a look at the reduction in hospitalizations and deaths. ALL have declined sharply and the overall trend is in a solid decline. Your comparisons are incorrect. Simply because a country is neighboring does not indicate a valid comparison. Would you compare the US with Mexico? Of course not. This is not a simple issue but a complex one that is also complicated. I wonder if you didn't just go on this tirade without watching the interview
@@DJayFreeDoo Sweden and Tegnell followed an evidence based and reasonable approch instead of being led by blind panic of politicians. More reason can be found in the Interview that is so refreshing.
I really like what I have seen from this interviewer through all of this. I haven't seen all the videos but I think he is great compared to interviewers in the mainstream. I have found myself frustrated with him a few weeks ago because I couldn't quite figure out what side of the arguement he was on based on the range of questions he was asking. I then realised that he was doing exactly what an interviewer should do which was being unbiased and fair. He saw him challeng a guest who was FOR something in the same way he challenged another guest who had a different point of view. And I never see him cut off his guests, giving them freedom to respond in the way they choose. GOOD WORK, there should be many more like him.
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Yes he was great to listen to!
Anders Tegnell and his team have been an absolute beacon of hope for rational thought and democratic government when virtually all other countries have lost their minds employing mediaeval policies based on flawed or absent science. I think a lot of people would have jumped out the window in despair if there wasn't at least one country sticking up for commonsense and democratic freedoms.
Thank you for saying it so well! My sentiments exactly.
Tegnell is heavily criticised in Sweden for been wrong about everything he has said and still delivering lies and wrong prognoses. Sorry, but everything he has said has been proven wrong, and he still continues after half a year like nothing has happened.
@@mistsretrolibrary What you say is not true. Just for your information. You don't understand the differences between a Swedish democratic approach to this situation and the ones you see in all other countries. This democratic Swedish approach means a totally open, wide and deep discussion throughout the society from day one. This is part of the old Swedish tradition of constructive and creative criticism. It is a rare thing hardly seen with such consequence in any other country. For your background information.
@@leifrythm I'm a swede that has been living here for 35 years, so what in the hell are you talking about?
ecwaufisxtreme is a troll polluting with similar messages in caps across numerous forums - is there a way he can be blocked I wonder?
Love hearing about Sweden and love this interviewer. So much better than lamestream media
You should try Swedish public service!
@@viktoredv have you a link please? I tried to find a channel and ended up in India!
@@freedommatters3176 svt.se for TV, and sr.se (redirects) for radio. Not all is available from abroad though, iirc.
@@jeolf8909 thank you. I've subscribed
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As a Swede I really appreciate Dr Tegnell's work. It's hard to say for sure if it would have been different if the decisions had been different, but I LOVE that these are decisions are based on what they think is the correct way of dealing with it, and NOT to score points with the public for the sake of it. Cheers!
The decision is made to do the minimum amount. Did you know covid 19 can give you neurological problems even if you have had mild symptoms, Tegnell won't tell you that he wants you to think that it's a flu that only kills old people. Taiwan, New Zealand, and Greece have done much better, and Sweden has got the worst death rate in Europe. So you are happy with that LOL !!
@@mvtsolar8332 a year later and it appears the doctor was right.
Thanks so much for bringing Seden's courageous Dr. Tegnell on Unherd to let him speak freely with zero spin.
Courageous? If Anders Tegnell had any real balls he would admit that his strategy is an utter failure and that he and his pals are responsible for not protecting the swedish people.
How lovely to follow a sensible conversation.
Speaks honestly and looks at all sides of the argument
of course he is honest like major part of swedes, should he speak trickiy
Freddy is really the best journalist. Asking valid questions and no apparent bias that he thinks anything especially. Really how news should be!
Excellent and so refreshing! He asks the awkward question but in open minded way. A great style!
@@jesuschristsupersta1 Funny but scary too because part of me knows ~they~ dont understand sarcasm. :D
Dr. Anders Tegnell, please know that you are highly talked and admired from all over the world. We should have all used your model. As with any epidemic there are and will be victims regardless. Maintain your confidence and stand your ground. You proved to be one of the few that truly care about their country and their citizens.
Finally someone who is not hysterical.. but science based and has a clean view of this virus and who are the most vulnerable
Let’s learn from him and Sweden
if you want in Brittany 150.000 death learn from him Better look at Taiwan and south Korea I am moere attracted to systems who works spares life without lockdown
You are my hero, mister Anders. You are the reason why I believe that authoritarianism failed to take over the world. I hope it stays this way in the places where there is still such freedom available at least.
How and when did Americans and the British lose their minds? People die of all kinds of things - easily preventable things - all the time. Yet this is the only one we are completely hysterical about.
Media
Italians and Hungarians are just the same. Covid madness is highly contageous
It was made into a crisis for an opportunity to cause havoc by any means to discredit a president and his efforts. It was purely an evil act.
Excessive media, over-use of social media, grasping politicians, and the fact that we have done our best to raise a generation of fragile, pusillanimous, effete young adults who have been spared any understanding of the realities of life.
The Agenda is mass compulsory vaccinations. Everything the WHO has advised has been detrimental to the health of all citizens.Even the mask wearing will cause ill health not to mention the impact fear and stress puts on the immune system. The Plan was plain to see from very early on when Bill Gates went on TV and said nothing will ever go back to normal until a vaccine is found and he is the biggest single funder of the WHO, I think its around 4.3 Billion. In the UK he has also given funding to the BBC, Chris Witty (Englands chief medical officer) and imperial college London, where the over exaggerated models came from which caused the lockdowns. He has not given all this money away for nothing, The ICL caused the Lockdowns, The BBC have been pushing the fear and I can guarentee that Chris Witty and Matt Hancock will push for mandatory vaccinations. Bill Gates has said he wants to vaccinate the whole world, and this new virus will probably mutate every year giving him a never ending supply of customers. It will also be a perfect time for Bill to introduce his Identification chips into the human race - all done in the name of saving the planet.
I still can't understand why people are bothered by infection rates. Provided death rates drop, where's the problem?
My thoughts exactly!
In my day being ill meant you were actually.... Er. ... Ill! Lol
Basically now they are effectively saying that anyone who lives and breathes is a biohazard that needs to be contained.
Especially since the infection rate appears to be a guesstimate.
I guess if you are the panicked, curled up in a ball in the corner of your room type. The concern is that the more people that are infected the more likely that someone 'vulnerable' will be infected and.... Die.
More likely people are just being paniced by the media, using dodgy worst case scenario modelling. Or just plain old sensationalism. Because they believe they make more money that way. And far too many people haven't figured out that the media can't be trusted to report things relatively unbiased. They aren't seeking the truth. But the truth doesn't pay the bills for them.
I have a hard time with smart, savvy and succesful people who don't look beyond the regular media trying to convince them that they maybe they have it wrong. Certainly not saying I'm right, but it would seem fairly obvious that the disaster forecasting is very very wrong.
I'd love to know how to snap people out of it generally. Scares me quite a bit. That kind of thinking led to bad things happening in the past, no reason they can't happen again. I guess it's already happening.
Because of the death lag time. Can only evaluate it after another few weeks.
I will remember this man for standing with basics of science
he has no better basis of science and others bigger countries, he was in Congo fighting Ebola this is really courageous. All the specialists have not the same opinion and Tegnells strategy is in minority
sir. i am here to judge you more than a year later and my verdict is: you have won.
We are not judging you. We love you.
Dr. Tegnell is a hero for clear-eyed interpretation of science and staying strong in face of global panic. Compliments also our Unherd host for making these excellent interviews happen. Looking forward to re-visiting the Sweden story next year... I think it's going to be good!!
Sweden got it right. The U.K. and most of the world has had a meltdown.
Well done Sweden 👍
Apparently you're pretty easy to fool then. Have you even looked that the individual stats for the rest of the Nordics? It doesn't make Sweden look good.
NoTegnell is a fucking moron!!!
The high mortal rate in Sweden is ALL you need to know...
New Zealand did it right.
@@kebman Stop looking at one number and understand how they are presented. It aint black and white. In the end of the year Sweden will not had any excess deaths, like any other nordic country. We just present it different.
I am half swedish and I am ashamed od Tegnells strategy unique in the world because nobody want it
Thanks a lot for your way of making the exactly relevant questions without being neither confrontational or servile. Stellar journalism!
Believe it or not, the Belgian press still has the guts to criticize the Swedish approach, and mindlessly defend the Belgian approach. Living in Belgium now is like living in a bad nightmare, with new tighter measures announced almost daily now. I'm thinking of going to the Netherlands where I have a place to stay, or move to Sweden (I have a degree in Nordic languages).
Hi Inge, I'm glad I'm not the only one. I live in Brussels and I feel like I am in some kind of episode of Black Mirror. I am seriously beginning to question whether I am the one losing my mind, or whether Belgian society has completely lost its collective mind. I went to Scheveningen the other day, just to spend a day in a society of normal human beings. Like you, I cannot take this madness for much longer. The Belgian press has revealed itself to be a completely unthinking regurgitation machine of the Conseil national de securite and the cadre of state virologists who I am beginning to believe are utterly brain dead (or perhaps are simply doubling down on what they now know was a terrible mistake).
Yes, it seems that they don’t want to look at our statistics, just our initial failures. The initial failures are fair to criticize, but there are many factors to consider, something most papers don’t have time or diligence to do.
In Victoria Australia they have deployed military on the state-borders to prevent anyone leaving, they have police helicopters flying around constantly every day, police drones spying on people's movements, and every day on the media is more vicious propaganda, complete with state-directed name-calling ("Selfish Australians" is the most common one for dissenters of current policy), regular verbal attacks on the public, now to the point that people who aren't wearing a mask, even if they are just trying to eat while walking are being routinely abused on the streets by fellow citizens. It's really starting to get quite spooky here, and if you try to leave Victoria you get an inordinate un-payable fine for many (thus arrested) of thousands of dollars, and when someone tries to publicly suggest a more Swedish approach they get attacked with the same rhetoric being used in every draconian place - "DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT THE 5,000 DEATHS IN SWEDEN?" as if Sweden doesn't have 90,000 deaths every year from all causes.
@@davedavy5406 And those Swedish victims were on average 86 years old.
@@tommyboman7735 Indeed! You would think that with such a result on Belgium there would be loud pleas to fire all those in charge. I am not saying they are completely to blame, air pollution may play a role, as may resistance to antibiotics due to past overprescribing, but still.
I look at Dr. Tegnell and am impressed with how he deals with someome trying to get him out if the room to address other matters. He is just locked in the moment and keeps solid attention to the interviewer. No stress, just keeps calm. This is just on top of all the logical responses he gives and his honesty clear in the answers he gives....No pretence 👍
The best expert around! And so diplomatic! I am sure, if he was not in this state position, he would speak more freely, also about the other countries lockdowns...
Looser of the battle agains COVID 19 remains to be in front of cameras; he has no honor everything in sweden failed, no material enough , no herd immunity no tests enough but the most criminal is absence of rules for masks only because Tegnell does not believe himself in masks when one billion people does believe
louis ecorchevolle oh yeah the majority is always right 😂😂🙈 go on and believe, I am not here to convince anyone... and by the way, there is no battle 😉
@@ericvangrasdorff7411 no but when you have children in sweden you could be anxious
Eric Van Grasdorff you do not live in Sweden I do. Nobody like him. He tolk a lot shit and the statisk is totally wrong. He have relatives that make fotune on vaccin.
louis ecorchevolle I have children in Germany and I am indeed frightened by what the State is imposing on us, I as a father have almost nothing to say anymore, and this state of health dictatorship is what frightens me! Children have nothing to fear, as long as they are and live healthy - but fear and panic will make them sick. Guess what Germans bought in supermarkets when the lockdown came? Pasta and toilet paper, fresh fruit und vegetables had to be thrown away regularly, yes, this is how you make population sick, bravo! If you look deeper, we just a test, and the test is the whole problem. It only test for certain molecules, does not say anything about being sick or not. It is the dumbest thing I have seen in my life, and only possible through fear. Sweden has not played with fear. But hey, believe what you want, I am tolerant, the problem is that State und society are not any more tolerant, but we have started to prosecute them in court, history will tell...
One of the only sane countries on the planet at the moment.
I applaud 👏👏👏👏 the Swedish model!
Exactly the opposite.
Martinus Asp will know a year from now when we compare not only deaths, but the mental, economic and physical health problems in countries that chose to lockdown instead.
@@Gloriavalery Yes stupid people will know then. The rest if us know now
@@Gloriavalery Looser of the battle agains COVID 19 remains to be in front of cameras; he has no honor everything in sweden failed, no material enough , no herd immunity no tests enough but the most criminal is absence of rules for masks only because Tegnell does not believe himself in masks when one billion people does believe
2 years later and the pandemic over.? It would be very interesting to get a followup with Dr Tegnell. Today I'm getting news that the Swedish "death rates" during the pandemic was actually lower than other countries...
This guy deserves some credit. For his honesty for his efforts. For his humanity.
Wtf?! A lying sociopath is more accurate
@@martinusasp8927 Shutting down society kills people, probably more than the virus.
@@martinusasp8927 His lie? You mean his no need to wear a mask you everyone should be wearing a mask lie. Oh wait, that was Fauci.
@@TheCompleteGuitarist no. On every damn aspect of this whole debacle he has been wrong and then when pressed about it he comes up with nonsensical obfuscations and lies to save face.
@@martinusasp8927 I know, Fauci has always been like that. Too much of american medicine and pharmaceuticals tied up in money and politics.
Well done Sweden. You have got to stand for something or you’ll fall for anything... Sweden will be the hero of 2020..
you have not seen the figures absolutely bad number of death, no herd immunity they exprected
Sweden is going to have tons of people wanting to move there to avoid being locked down in the future. Freedom!!
Also humanity. Are people relying on food parcels in sweden?
Don't you have any laws in Sweden?? Your idea of freedom is ridiculously flawed.
@@lulunz6809 how so?
@@mocha753 Because the people who are arguing for their right to be free are forgetting that others also have the same right and nobody should be able to take away other peoples right to live freely at the expense of others with the same rights. Stopping the spread of this illness was a way to protect everyone's freedom to live. The elderly and disabled have the same rights as you. There is no freedom when you are dead. So the sacrifice to protect lives was about protecting everyone's right to freedom. Instead so many people have only thought of themselves at the expense of other peoples right to freedom. You don't deserve freedom. Someone fought for your right to choose and you selfishly made it all about you instead of being about giving as many people the option as possible.
Yes, tons of people will move to Sweden, for the freedom of seeing their grandparents die. I mean, their socialist government has better things to use tax money on, after all. But at least everyone gets the same treatment! Well, as long as you're not an ethnic Swede, that is.
Incredibly valuable content based on observations and theoretical models. This is what mainstream reporting should be.
Absolutely brilliant interview, thank you. Whether you agree with what was said or not it's such a pleasure to have sensible questions put to the interviewee and time given to allow him to answer without interruption. Top marks!
As an informed US citizen, I see Sweden's method as the most logical and effective. But any method can only be compared to methods used under similar cultures and societies. The mindset of US is far from that of Sweden. This is unfortunate in many ways but particularly now with covid. I am a boomer who hasnt trusted my gov since mid 60s. In fact I have a deep mistrust. The concept of having a gov comprised of brilliant women and men dedicated to the common good of all is fantastical to me, but I will not stop fighting for change. My country's survival depends on it.
There not so brilliant, dim in fact (not including this person).
The Sweden's method with 561 deaths/million, the fifth highest in the world is the most logical and effective? How do you rate Taiwan with 0.3 deaths/million then?
@@btango6929 Don't confuse them with facts.
@@btango6929 I think that's a really interesting point. Perhaps only time will tell whether it's sensible to seek a middle ground such as Sweden has or go for the extinguish Covid approach. Countries that are extinguishing Covid presumably do so at an economic cost that perhaps is unsustainable. I guess if a vaccine is around the corner Sweden might look dumb and yet there's definitely an attraction in government avoiding becoming dictatorial.
@Erik Lerström I don't agree. It's a two part assessment. Firstly could the country extinguish Covid and if not how effectively they live with Covid. Both questions are relevant. But it's certainly true that government can only do so much without public buy in.
Great interview!
Anders Tegnell is very informative, calm and admits his failures which is very rare to see from someone in the public eye.
But more important is we can see he is learning from the failures.
At first I thought Sweden plan of action was incorrect.
As each week that goes by the death rates continue to be lower and lower I feel Sweden are leading the world in showing how to treat the disease and how to live with the disease.
He did the opposite in this interview. He did specifically NOT admit the failures; listen for example on the strategic story telling at minute 09:00-10:00. I really dont understand how you manage to get tricked by these kinds of politics, so it would be helpful if you could share what part of this interview made you think that any failures where admitted.
Finally some common sense
As a swede I would say that most of the feedback around our strategy is pretty balanced domestically. Granted there are a few caps-lock crusaders that are talking about what a disaster things are but most swedes do not agree. We do not live in fear and our society is open. Most people show respect by keeping their distance and the daily death's from Covid-19 is low at this point. We know we are not perfect and that we did some mistakes but over time we have a sustainable strategy. I really do not hope that the rest of the world will eventually catch up with our death per capita but it is definitely a risk. But humanity is resilient and innovative and we will solve this eventually.
You are lucky to have sane people who aren't corrupt to the bone running your health departments. I'm envious.
Beginning to wish I'd been born in Sweden. Best wishes
You wrote "We do not live in fear". Here in Netherland people now too try that, is my impression. I'm happy about that change. The respond of some of the politicians is that people must have more fear again, that's why Rotterdam and Amsterdam now oblige to wear a mask in some streets. It's an experiment, planned to start next Wednesday. To make people think more about the virus. As if we don't think enough at it yet ...
In Netherland the MSM is the worst, pushing the masks idea through almost 24 hours a day last week. I'm surprised and proud about the politicians because they did not succumb to that pressure (yet).
Still not easy to predict the future, but currently it looks in general like stopping/slowing this virus just means getting the delayed part later.
Well said
As someone living in Sweden, I can't agree more!
Chief Anders Tegnell should be given a medal. He used common sense rather than rely on hype to steer his country.
Yes but don't forget he is the face of a team of scientists and epidemiologists. But yes he is amazing.
He’s very balanced and I’m sure wouldn’t want to be seen to be being triumphalistic - but by any measure the Swedish response, whilst not perfect, has been an unqualified success when compared to similar countries that locked down.
Quite simply, they’ve demonstrated that it’s possible to limit the impact of Covid without incurring the devastating costs of full lockdown.
Given the extent to which deaths in Sweden occurred in long term care facilities, I feel it’s highly doubtful that a full lockdown in Sweden would’ve prevented more than a modest proportion of the deaths.
Compare that to the inevitable costs (and death toll) of a full lockdown and it becomes impossible to see how the Swedish approach can be seen as a failure.
I find it somewhat depressing that in the UK we didn’t manage to have the measured discussions in the public domain that may have led to a similar approach.
Consequently we’re now seeing and therefore starting to finally acknowledge that in terms of lockdowns, the attempted prevention is more deadly than the disease itself.
Succé when People die?Many of this People have from year to decade to live!
This virus he have say its a flu.It is a new virus and it goes not to play with life as this lunited doing from beginning!
recur68 we rely quite a lot on import in Sweden too, so if other countries are affected a lot, the effects would spread between countries a lot too, or so is my assumption on it anyways
@ecwaufisxtreme, you are absolutely right. Let's see what really happens to New Zealand after the unsustainable policy of keeping their nation locked down from any international travel in or out of their borders.
"but by any measure the Swedish response, whilst not perfect, has been an unqualified success when compared to similar countries that locked down."
The are no more similar countries (with locked down) then the next door Nordic neighbors: Denmark, Norway and Finland. These three countries with a combined population of 16,758,434, which is 65.88% higher than Sweden's 10,103,020. However, the total deaths in Sweden (5667) is 4.75 times that of the Nordic neighbors combined (1195). Success? Really? BTW, the UK is very different from the Nordics in many ways.
Interviewer very good (unbiased)
Sometimes I think you’re almost the only sane ones left... keep up the great work please
If you talking about Tegnel. Legally he suppose to be neutral due to swedish law. GD are not to have a political affiliation. While in reality, this is broken quite regularly.
Really lovely interview Freddie with ultra sensible Anders Tegnell who is not afraid to admit mistakes made with care homes and so many immigrants but also astute enough to say " Judge me in a year's time" I wish all our leaders were as open. Thank you both. Excellent name "Unheard" but leave out TV in case you might get mixed up with MSM- God forbid!
I have such great admiration for Anders Tegnell, and the Swedish government who supported him, despite what must have been enormous peer pressure and fear mongering from other so called "experts" around the world. And through it all, he's so humble ... the first to admit that their measures may also not be perfect; the first to say "I'm not sure" if certain projections cannot be made with 100% accuracy. When many of us questioned the unheard of lockdowns that were happening around the world, Swedens response helped to reassure me that I'm not crazy in thinking that literally shutting down the world was the sane response to this virus.
This biggest single decision was to keep the schools open. The pressure was enourmous to close them, especially from right-wing politicians/authoritarians, but I think the general public was rather well-informed that children aren't as much affected by covid-19.
And with schools open, the kids felt a sense of normality, and we parents got less anxious. The heroes were the teachers, school bus drivers and other personnel who made it work.
@@leojson7351 That's one of the crazy aspects of all this... the general public in all countries know that children will rarely be affected, yet they are too afraid to re-open schools fully. I feel very sad for how children will be affected by the shutdown in most countries.
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Wait.. Wait.. Am I actually hearing some common sense. Finally.
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Tegnell is a fucking moron!!!
The high mortal rate in Sweden is ALL you need to know...
Common sense? Please link to that video.
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No you didn't. You heard what you wanted to hear.
Thank You Dr. Tegnell !!!
it would be great to see update of this!
Tegnell, my hero. The one person in all governements in the world that used his brain, and had the guts to to actually implement the sensible measures despite the mass fear.
Tom Woods has a very intelligent speech on this matter. The crux of it is that we have to recognize that there is more to being alive than just biologically alive. This devastated economy and lock down have robbed us of our "lives", to what end? If I have to live like this, I'd rather no live. This is robbing me of my life...and to what end? To save the elderly who in most cases were within a few months at the end of their lifecycle? Did anyone ask the elderly if they wanted their grandchildren deprived of the things that gave them so much pleasure in their youth? Did they ask them if they wanted lockdowns in their name if it would deprive their children of the prosperity that they enjoyed during their working years? The elderly I am aware of all said , no. I am nearly 60 years and I say , no. Life is meant to be lived. To stop living over a virus (that the WHO and all statisticians agree that dying from ,if you are under 75, is a RARE event), is madness. Life is just inherently risky.
@@gertrudewest4535 well said. The elderly in my surrounding say the same thing. Its frightening how easy western countries are willing to give up basic freedoms out of fear. Its an strong indication of how much we are in decline morrally.
He didnt completely owe his brain you see, because he could have implemented certain measures that even without a lockdown would've helped a lot
@@dallysinghson5569 you mean in the elder care homes? I guess thats true. And its true for almost all European countries. Here the WHO is partly to blame, because they wrote very bad guidance which has been adopted more or less by these countries. I think in general the role of WHO has been disastrous, and continues to be. Anyway, it would have saved a lot of lives if people would have focused maybe exclusively on protecting the elderly, instead of containing the virus.
he is a "sleeping pill" saying what people want to hear as many swedes
Every time I read comments on a covid video about Sweden, I lose a bit of hope in humanity... This was an amazing exception! Thanks for replenishing some of my lost hope! And thank you to Anders for keeping our country as great as it has ever been.
❤️❤️❤️❤️Hey fr@n Tyskland! ✌️
@Peter Henery Australia truly seems dystopian in the wake of all of this.
No wonder Sweden will self-destruct. Socialist party hit record numbers during the pandemic.
“There seems to be a close connection to how many people introduced the disease at the same time… The spring holidays in Sweden are spread over four different weeks depending on different geographical regions. Unfortunately Stockholm happened to have its spring holiday just when there was an enormous spread of Covid-19 in Europe … so a lot of Swedes living in the Stockholm area came back with the disease. And that started an epidemic on a level that was much higher than the start of the epidemic in the South of Sweden, or in Finland or in Norway. Currently that’s to me the most likely theory - that if you have a massive introduction, it’s going to be a disease that is very, very hard to control.”
Why I like this man so much is that he use the words "seem to be" and "most likely". It sounds right, but we can not be certain. Yet. But we know that we had a lof of people infected in Sweden before any lockdown in any country occured and we also know that the cases/deaths now are declining in a similar way to other european countries that imposed lockdown.
It's winter holiday, not "spring" holiday.
don't listen to this clown. It's the same guy who told swede's that it was perfectly fine to go skiing in northern Italy because the virus "hadn't spread there yet". Well low and behold, they got infected and brought it back....the damage this man has done is immense.
This guy should get a Nobel prize for commonsense
In Sweden yes, but not so in other countries. For example why did UK not close their border, a lot of silly decisions. Also you can still criticize Sweden for not locking down like Denmark. Short term lockdowns worked to radically reduce cases and stop spread.
Tegnell? The guy who would rather kill 5700 people, than risk the economy? And then the economy of Sweden went to shit anyway? :D
Sweden has 10x as more deaths than its neighbouring countries. 10x! That means several thousands survived to live another day in Norway, Finland and Denmark. That means they now stand a much better chance of getting a _cure._ Tegnell just let all of the people he was supposed to safeguard die. Tegnell should go to jail for criminal neglect.
Tegnell is a fucking moron!!!
The high mortal rate in Sweden is ALL you need to know...
kebman yes but Sweden will not have a second wave as corona has run its course and is ending in Sweden . The neighbouri g countries have had a huge increase in cases since ” reopening ” and Norway is now locking down again . Lockdown seems to just delay corona not stop it
Only man I am following from beginning of pandemic....
eaten also by system ..
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No mention on BBC news when Sweden achieved zero deaths but they mention Belgium recording zero deaths.
Not zero death jet. Two days of zero hospitalisations......9 deaths reported today.
Has not happened yet. Only a couple of days with zero ICU admissions.
Who cares about BBS news nowadays?
@@jensolsson9666 There have been days without any deaths reported in Sweden also!
sssaaraa accordingly the official statistics there is no day without any death. Unfortunatly.
UnHerd is simply the best coverage of pandemic science there is.
What is his background and how is he able to get all the top people on? Interesting.
@@simonnilsson5356 He's balanced, measured and intelligent. Which is clear after listening to him speak for about 3 seconds. That's why people want to talk to the man.
What a fantastic interview 👏 Hats off to you Freddie 😁 Tegnell is the man!
i know where i will be spending next summer holidays!
greetings from holland to sweden
Very good interview. Thank you very much. All my respect to Dr. Tegnell.
I was hesitant to click on this video at first because I'm so tired of international media bashing and humiliating Sweden's response to the virus. I was pleasantly surprised that this interviewer gave an unbiased interview, even though the swedish model isn't perfect.
I live in SE and have family in DK and FI and hear alot from them what media there is writing. With their great efforts and some help from Covid, the already massive Hatred towards Sweden as a country and swedes as a population has increased tenfold.
I am very sorry to hear that hatred toward Sweden has increased for one I admire your courage. And be aware that hatred towards people who think differently everywhere has increased due to increase of fear which causes agression 🌐♥️🙏
Don't hear much about Sweden in the MSM anymore......I wonder why?
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Cause it worked
Sensible and practical management while in the UK we are living in an idiocracy.
mic mccoy But apparently they’re just following the science 🙄
@mic mccoy Perhaps you'll tell us what should've been done.....
Absolutely, here in the UK we seem to have a government hell bent on torturing us with nonsensical rules, they are even talking about mandating gloves. It's as if they want to destroy our economy and way of life.
@si h
The best laid plans of mice and men often go awry 🐁
The U.K. is a joke. Not listening to what the government says anymore 😡
A very good and balanced interview. I’m lucky to live in Dr Tegnell’s country.
I'm jealous!
S Q And even luckier not to have died in it.
@@StepDub Not really; I'm okay with death. I'm okay with death from disease. I'm not okay with death from politicians.
S Q Apologies, the comment was for the lucky Johan. Lucky that he wasn’t in a nursing home with a cough. They got denied oxygen and got a Brompton cocktail instead. Lucky that he wasn’t one of the younger school kids sent out to act as community spreaders, not knowing at the time that they were practically immune. I don’t have a lot of faith in governments either, but I have even less in Sweden’s psychopath practitioners.
StepDub 5367
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So proud of my Swedish heritage. Great interview.
Another video free of political bias! All the right questions asked and the answers obviously understood. Great interview!
Thank God for Tegnell!
A realistic overview while here in USA folks are cowering, sad. Great interview.
No Anders, I'll judge you now.
You nailed it. Everyone else flunked dismally.
It's wrong to say he nailed it.. but he was quite a bit closer than all european nations.
My guess is you are not swedish. Tegnel said some ... well.. uninformed stuff in the beginning of the pandemic. Mostly that children could not carry it, and that it would not be contagious in sweden.
@@matsv201 Those answers weren't uninformed they were simply what the data available at the time suggested.
@@matsv201 Who didn't get stuff wrong initially? Anders was wrong about a few things sure, but you tell me, who has been 100% correct from day 1 about this disease?
@@matsv201 OK I feel you. But only with regards to the care home thing.
But everyone got that wrong. REALLY wrong in our case (US/UK)
matsv201 but cuomo stuff old people with covid with other old sick people and kill hundreds but you wanna complain about one thing give the guy a break he did the best
suddenly the government cares about people dying. I never heard a proposal to stop all car trafic (over 1.000.000 deaths EVERY year ) and cigarettes are still being sold and even young people can still start smoking. Sice when the government has become so sensitive
Simply it’s all about retaining power and the easy life? All Our politicians are all corrupt in America the the modern mafia
You are totally right, wim lammens. Here near the in Washington, DC, they actually lowered the speed limit from 25 to 20 MPH. They are so paranoid in their logic as if they are hypochondriacs. I am surprised that they don't want to outright ban automobile traffic since there are sooo many road-related accidents.
Smoking is another great topic. What about the millions who die of second-hand smoke? Why don't they ban cigarettes during this Covid-19 mess? Certainly, smoking and second-hand smoke is known for messing up respiratory systems, which can apparently ill-afford it in the current climate!
Since we are in such a mood to ban things that are bad for our health, let’s also ban alcohol.
Exactement, Monsieur!
jimid85 Actually death from smoking....lung cancer, emphysema, heart disease etc etc, are very painful and pretty nasty ways to go.
I've never looked up to many people in my life but this man is right up there. Wish we had him in England instead of the planks doing it now.
Hey, what's wrong with Neil ferguson...? :)
@@michaelhansson1242 Mainly, his continued employment as an "epidemiologist" and the fact he's not been remanded in custody pending criminal prosecution, as far as I can see.
@@rau1seixas can we really blame him? When his too busy closing the social distance with his married playgirl....
@Emilia Lindhe I'm afraid most are working together, it's the politicians that complicate things...
Wtf? His incompetence has killed thousands
Thank you for being one of the very few sane voices in the world Dr Tegnell
How has he been sane? Haha honestly now... Sweden has had 7 times more deaths than its neighboring countries combined.
Thank you so much for this interview! 🙏🏻
Tegnell is the exact opposite of a technocrat! The way he reacted was scientifically justified and morally right! A hero, in my opinion.
Isn't that exactly what a technocrat is?
"The word technocrat can refer to someone exercising governmental authority because of their knowledge, or "a member of a powerful technical elite", or "someone who advocates the supremacy of technical experts". It depends on your knowledge. If you have read The Technocracy Rising, you'd get my remark. I've read the book. Here's a lecture by the author Patrick M. Wood ruclips.net/video/B9LdAjWNOTc/видео.html (P.S. I am pro-technology and pro-expert knowledge but against corruption).
Is it not time to apologise to Anders Tegnell?
Switzerland took Sweden down from the list with risk countries. I am happy with that. That means they will get some tourists and unfortenately I can‘t travel to Sweden this year. German viroligist Drosten said im May that the virus wil get milder during time. Karl Sikora (former WHO) said the virus could be gone before a vaccine comes. And yes we need more selfconfident and calm epidemiologists like Anders.
I have already spotted the odd Belgian and Dutch tourist in Sweden. Last weekend I even spotted some Danes at a restaurant on the outskirts of Stockholm speaking in hushed voices.
@@Rbajter Expect mass migration when your country is so awsome!
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You know what my fear is? Once people.like dr Tegnell and prof Giesecke are retired who will replace them? There are few like them left.
Well if Democrats win you wont have to worry about chief medical officer. The party will tell you what to believe.
Geisecke disappeared when it came out that he was paid by FHM and his wife was profiting on covid19 patients.
To be fair 2 other nordic countries (wasnt specified which ones) health service were against lockdowns but the government overruled them.
Yes, we have produced a generation of authoritarians. Something the Left Wing always produces. Vote them out now before we become the next collectivist nightmare.
There is only 3 Scandinavian countries. Sweden, Denmark and Norway. Finland and Iceland is part of the Nordic.
what he should've said (but he's never boastful)
-how would you like to be judged?
-I followed the science and I respected every aspects of a pandemic, to better the health of society as a whole
that's courage, it's NEVER wrong, and it's not political
Thank you, Freddie and prof. Tegnell.
I literally bought the Tegnell T-shirt (and hoodie), and have worn it
The best way to wear the hoodie is back to front, with the hood up. Don’t worry about not being able to see, you are clearly blind to the truth already.
@@StepDub Do you also do childrens birthdays? Or do you only clown as a hobby.
Good on Sweden 🇸🇪
The intensive care units in the Swedish capital region Stockholm reached 99 percent capacity on Tuesday (8/12/2020) for the first time during the coronavirus pandemic, as the region's head of healthcare called on all Stockholmers to follow recommendations more strictly
Another outstanding interview! Perfect in every respect. Thanks!
Thanks Freddie for doing an important job!
I love Stockholm and wish I was there.
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Is Sweden welcoming new citizens? I want to live in a country where sheep are not leading sheep.
Oh, if you aren't already you will become a sheep if you move to Sweden. Trust me.
Don't listen to Marcus lol
You will become a sheep on other topics living there, like on immigration and crime statistics
Unfortunately the human brain is very compartmentalized. People will surprise you with how smart they are in some areas and then disappoint you with how dumb they are in other areas. Unfortunately countries are probably the same way.
Sweden suffer severely from a more serious pandemic called political correctness. Try saying objectively true things about the state of affairs on virtually any topic, and see what happens.
Post modernism is a thing of evil disguised as good intentions, fairness, and equality.
Im a swede. I dont agree with everything Tegnell says or all the decisions he's made. But I do think very highly of him, he has done a very good job in very difficult and taxing times.
stay the course, Dr. Tegnell....
Just to let you know, I was unsubscribed from your channel. I did not unsubscribe. RUclips is fiddling with your numbers.
Please keep up the excellent work. Your voice is so important and has been excellent, a beacon of light no less, in these dark times.
Please advise people to check that if they subscribed to your channel that they check!
Sweden has implemented THE rational and evidence driven approach. It will be the future approach studied I reckon. For those of us in countries that have used other methods, with which we disagree, but have no choice, Dr Tegnell is our hero. Well done Freddy for this most timely and excellent interview
sorry, what?
What part of 5800 deaths, an overwhelmingly large number compared to the neighbouring countries sounds like an evidence based approach to you?
What part of the Swedish economy doing worse than all of its neighbours - who went into lockdown - makes you think this method paid off?
@@prabashwayne7088 Why would you compare neighboring countries? Would you compare the US to Mexico? Of course not. Personally I don't see the value of comparison. It's not a competition. Each country is essentially a closed system. In the US each State is a closed system with policy and consequence a function of the State Governor. The majority of the deaths, around 75% has been explained openly by Sweden. It involves the large frail care nursing homes that were not protected by quarantine early in the outbreak. So the deaths are of people around 80 - 90 years old already with comorbidities and so weak immune systems. This has been rectified, At no time has Sweden tried to evade the reality that a terrible mistake was made and the result was thousands of deaths. The brief by the Swedish government was to find a non-politicized approach that did not compromise the rights of Swedes as laid out in the Constitution and at the same time, could be carried on for however long is necessary, maybe years. This was done using evidence based medicine, such as what was already known about viruses and measures. Minemalizing the economic impact. This has been shown to be a successful approach. Over the past two months infections, hospitalizations and deaths have fallen significantly. Bit Sweden is not celebrating. As Dr Anders Tegnell said in an interview with Freddy, this is an unknown situation with a novel virus. As the Swedish foreign minister has said, this is a marathon and not a sprint. The capricious nature of lock downs with forced mask wearing and personal social distancing and the closures of industries in many countries has already been shown to be misguided
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Because demographically, culturally, geographically, and economically, they're similar, except for the fact that they chose different methods of combating covid. Therefore its a very relevant comparison to make to see if the swedish method has worked.
@@prabashwayne7088 Sweden's frail care centers are much larger facilities than that of Norway for example. So they are not comparable. Culture and demographics have nothing to do with a viral infection. Sweden follows an approach that is different to its neighbors. This is about scientific approach. It's like comparing a scalar to a vector. They may look similar but are in fact different
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The difference between the frail age facilities is not that big, and even if it was, it wouldn't explain the gigantic difference in mortality. The Scandinavian countries have similar percentages of deaths in elderly homes (about 60% of the total figure), but sweden's mortality figure overall is tenfold bigger than Norway. And that's per million citizens. Then there's the fact that the remaining 40% weren't in nursing homes, you can't explain those deaths with any other explanation than our strategy versus theirs.
And culture and demography are extremely relevant variables for epidemiology, man. It's one of the reasons why you can mostly only compare similar countries.
A country that has a culture of sedentary lifestyle, where the population at large doesn't exercise, or where they regularly consume shitty foods will be at a much higher risk for various diseases than a country that doesn't.
Similarly, a country consisting largely out of an elderly, sick population will be hit differently by any disease than a country consisting out of a young, healthy population.
This is why a comparisons between largely differing countries is futile because they have different circumstances. Like, ofcourse the UK is going to be hit harder than Sweden as everyone lives closer together, there's a large aging population AND heart disease is more common. So the only relevant comparisons that can be made are between the countries that are similar, such as that between Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finland.
And lastly, this isn't the ONLY scientific method. Mitigation AND suppression are both scientifically sound methods against pandemics, but clearly mitigation does LESS than suppression against THIS particular pandemic.
If that wasn't the case, WE would have the lowest mortality rate amongst our neighbours, and OUR economy would have done the best, but that is not the case.
And furthermore, our absolute insistance to not implement face masks shows an absolute resistance to science and evidence. The majority of the scientific literature agrees that face masks works - our insistance that it doesn't shows that even the parts of our approach is not scientific or evidence based at all.
Anders is a good and wise man
It seems neighboring countries Denmark and Norway have used no masks at all.
And Finland also!
Not every country could or should have handled the pandemic the same way. Both Denmark and Norway went into lockdown and closed borders early...mid March. Denmark having got control early was I believe the first European country to reopen its schools.
Let´s not forget one important reason for that... many countries in europe didn´t oblige people to wear masks because of the shortage of masks in the first 14 weeks. Switzerland, Luxembourg, Czechia had a long lasting lack of masks for example and kept the reserves for medical staff. While germany didn´t let truckloads of masks be exported that already belonged to those countries.
This side of the story is still not too popular, but if talking to and listening to doctors around the world, there are many places where disposable masks shall be used over and over again after sterilizing for the use even in modern icu´s. American emergency departments have this trouble right now; maybe people see why the political signal to wear a mask is not brought forward in the us. - they don´t even have masks for everybody.
@j4Rose Well, I'll give them more credit than "hope for the best". That said, some countries had an easier task than others. For example, any place where you had high population density, young living close to old, mass transit and multi international flights bringing in infections from around the world, you are going to have problems. London, New York, etc.
Tim Olsen why aren’t they all dead!!!
Remarkable interview: a real Scoop! Well done: this was informative , probing, but not adversarial: the tone was perfect.
Countries I respect during the Pandemic that did not forced stupid lockdowns and I wish to visit:
- Sweden
- Japan (only like a week one)
- Costa Rica
- Nicaragua
- Belarus
- Madagascar
- Tanzania
Contrary to popular belief, those countries have of fewer deaths in the world right now. If there are more countries, feel free to tell me.
I envy the sweeds for having him at their cockpit
So true.
Nota bene: Swedes love traveling abroad. During february to late march 2020 10% of Swedens tot pop of 10 milion went abroad. This likely introduced the virus on a large scale in Sweden and Stockholm in particular explaining in part why Sweden where hit so hard and early in the pandemic. This pattern of traveling contrasts other scandinavian neighbors like danes, norwegians and finns,who travels much less abroad during that time of the year. This might explain some of the difference of spreading of the virus and death toll compering these scandinavian countries this early of the pandemic.
Mo Uri Bullshit.
@Mo Uri Are you just stupid or a Trump supporter?
Mo Uri Since you asked nicely, The reason you’re country was less affected is because you have a high percentage of people who were NOT susceptible to this particular virus. But your response sounded arrogant ......and wrong. We also know different ethnicities have different susceptibilities.
Yes, Stockholm had winter vacation called "sport break", in week 9 (first week of March). The schools are on a break, and a lot of people go on vacation abroad that week. Like for instance the Alps, where the decease were spreading at the time. A lot of people also went to the US, New York is a very popular destination among Stockholmers and other Swedes. And then they unknowingly brought the illness back home, got into taxi cabs, infecting the migrant population, who often have this kind of jobs. And they went home, living and hanging out close with tight knit families, infecting a lot of them. A lot of them work in elder care, so before we knew it the decease was in the elder care facilities.
Not that many New Zealanders were skiing in the Austrian and the Italian Alps during week 9, I reckon... So one can´t compare countries like that.
Mo Uri And you are truly a repulsive, obnoxious person. Probably a sociopath. Sorry I wasted my time.
You fled to the only remaining free country in Europe, I'm jealous!
Another great interview, Freddie. I hope 'LockdownTV' continues long after lockdown has ended.
IF lockdowns ever end, that’s a big IF
Thank you for real journalism. I am thankful of it.
An honest, professional, and responsible leader. One of a kind.