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I have been fishing for carp for 20 years with great pleasure. But that has come to an end this year. The new young Netflix generation has really messed this up here in the Netherlands. With their disgusting behavior with those bait boats and drones. It has become really sickly. Bait boats that sail over your spot, drones that hang above your spot. Have 0.0 respect for other fishermen. Disgusting and it has made me decide to stop my wonderful hobby and focus on fly fishing and pike. Because carp fishing is completely destroyed from within and from social media and RUclips
I hope people are sat there on an old deck chair, a Y shaped stick, washing up bottle top as a bite indicator, oh a centre pin reel on a split cane rod… but they won’t, they’ll be sat there on a chair that’s made using lightweight materials, with carbon rods, clutched and geared reels, digital bite alarms on stainless or carbon bank sticks… I could go on, but you get the idea…
@@Pr0ject2 the ultra and pro are fish eye cams mine Is the stealth cam. Stealth are the best by far the support and customer service is second to none. Checkout there Facebook page you'll see
Long distance casting with a fk’d up shoulder or a bait boat? Couldn’t give a rats cuss what people think, my bait boat is a god send and no more painful casts. Winner 😁
Bait boats, baiting poles, deeper all cheating for muppets or rich kids. I've fished for carp for 64yrs without them, is nothing sacred in carp fishing anymore?
i'm up to 40 years carp fishing and have to admit i havent got any of the gear i started with back in the 80's. Equipment has evolved with the times. Nothing wrong with using whats available to everybody. Gone are the days of spending hour upon hour leading around for a spot, then another 2-3 hours spodding bait to said spots. i go now to relax and enjoy myself, using a baitboat is heaven nowdays. No more going home and aching for 2 days from constant spodding.
I've been specimen Carp hunting for 40 years. I have a Bait boat that i use on occasion. When i use it , it's used with the upmost respect and awarness for other Anglers. Am no muppet pal but i have a bit of cash. Maybe that's it eh? Green eyes.
Don't like bait boats because they tempt the user to fish out of their water and often into stupid areas, there's enough stroke pulling goes on without all that, having said that I'd rather have a sensible bait boat user near me who discreetly puts his traps out than someone who comes up at bite time and leads all over the area then spombs the granny out of the place. As a short session guy that doesn't fish nights this happens to me all the time. These days if you turn up to fish early morning you have absolutely no idea of where others are fishing because of bait boats fishing to ludicrous places, sheer desprateness, there they all are bivvy zipped down sleeping off the last nights ale and weed. Bushwhackers are OK by me nice and stealthy, but all you bait boat boys don't kid yourself that it's your angling ability that is the edge. Rant over.
Love my bushwacker and it does feel more rewarding getting a bite from the spoon compared to a bait boat yet they are fundamentally doing the same thing
Look , I have one of theses Deeper sonar balls & there a great thing to have , especially when the fishing gets slow & they can provide details about the pond or lake your fishing & thats key to fishing & they can provide things about the species of fish your fishing for ,there’s nothing wrong about using something like this , hell here in the states , Pro Bass fishermen use sonar on their boats all the time especially in the Bass Master Classic . This is a game changer when it comes down to bank fishing & it beats sitting around all day just waiting for the fish to bite when you can look for them & put the bait right in front of them . These things tell you a lot about were your fishing & when it comes down to plastic baits l crank baits & such , it’s just picking the right color for the fish to hit them & that’s all to have to find out , color , appearance & how you make the bait work & this Deeper sonar are a combination you can’t beat .
Anglers on most club lakes hate boats as they hate bushwhackers & drones......quality watch as always joe onto the next adventure tightlines look forward to the next video 🎣 👊
I fish a 100 acre lake so a bait boat is a must can understand if fishing a small lake but it's the way technology is going 👍plus it has its plus when trying to get rigs back out in the night I use the Nd auto pilot absolutely brilliant push a or b job done and what with all the new updates to there app top boat 👍
I think people should be able to do what they like, as long as it’s not detrimental to the fish, fishery, or other anglers. Otherwise, where do you draw’s the line, split cane? Spears? Jumping in and grabbing bream with your bare hands!!?
If you got it use it but don’t use it as a crutch if your using a boat because you can’t cast then learn to cast before you become dependent on the boat but if your perfectly capable of casting but want to use a boat as an edge crack on.
Thinking that way about baiting with the flavours etc isn’t over thinking it bro it’s actually wise I do it a lot and does help out big time ! To catch the carp you have to think like the carp ! Great video man💯👌
I don't think you done much wrong there curly mate,found your spots,rigs made complete sense,I think it was just a case of a no show!!...great to see you back on tho,love the syndicate diary's!!👌👍
There's nothing wrong with baitboats, just another piece of equipment, but plenty wrong with some of the people who use them. Boats are hardly new tech. I've owned a few, beginning 20+ years ago. It gets used when it's needed. Anyway, some anglers can't cope unless they have something to whinge about...
If boats are allowed then there a tool like any other we use in fishing. As you say fishing ain’t all about catching and overnighters are a benefit to your mental state good video 👍🏻🎣🐳
I recently injured my shoulder, Rotator Cuff Tear, making casting almost impossible unless its a 20 yard lob and that is painful. My choice is not fishing or get a bait boat. So, I am awaiting delivery of a bait boat!
I've got a baitboat but it has no feature finding stuff on it so I still have to find the spots with a leading rod, only use it on a couple of venues too I like casting most of the time. however if you wanna cast or use an all singing all dancing rt7 as long as you're happy that's all that matters. I don't think any less of anglers if they use tech
Depends on preservatives. Most gear should be good for 3 days minimum, as long as it’s kept relatively cool. Most liquids and shelfies last for ages, non preserved pellets not so much. You can always freeze it.
I personally think boats are ridiculous but each to their own. I'd not use one for fishing but I'd use it to map a lake out like he's doing here, finding depths etc to note down, same with a drone above the water to see what I could spot.
I agree about using the bait boat although I'm more of a spom and marker guy plus where I fish can get prity weedy so it doesn't come in handy finding holes in the weed it was interesting to see that you're gone back to basics I've just recently done the same thing and guess what after a 7 month blank I managed to get one plus the hook hold was bang in middle of the bottom lip
I use a bait boat every time I go fishing I have ms so by the time I’ve got my stuff to my swim and set up I need a rest or half hour lay down and if I can save time and energy to enjoy going fishing more I always will ,you do get idiots with them though they just need to be used properly and there is always a time and place for them
I use a bait boat with deeper (quest) and it 100% caught me my pb from Swan at Bluebell recently. I found a spot within 10mins first time on a weedy lake and the rod ripped off after an hour and half. I wouldn’t have even finished leading with a marker float by that time given how small the spot was. I can cast but have a torn disc so try not to if at all possible. Frankly I couldn’t care less what the next guy does or thinks (incidentally most were using bait boats)
Bait boats are "fish at all costs" I started carping in 1980 so thats my old man opinion however...., i can see the "edge" they can have with the deeper so i would use one for depth/feature finding but i still wouldnt use it to drop baits. I dont have a problem with drones either. I love pork pies but hate salad so i cant be a total idiot!! Everyone to their own.
Isn't it just awesome just to sit on the bank in your own time just for you, as for the high tech fishing debate.....you aint gunna please all the folk all the time no matter what you do...but you already know that anyway, have you baited up using your drone yet? 👍
I hear people call it cheating but for me the only way it would be cheating is if it was used in an actual competition like the BCAC or the WCC. Using a bait boat for delivering bait to a spot is no different to using a spomb or even using a baiting spoon on a pole. I get that if people are using the sonar to try and find fish rather than checking the make up of the lake bed is taking it a bit far but it is human nature to be curious to see if there are any fish present. It also saves time and the ball ache of having to do laps around the lake like an Olympian just to try and find fish that might not show which means guessing a good spot anyway 🤷♂️
My bait boat is passed it's sell by date, had it for years. This is due to my loving of fishing but have physical problems which make multiple casting difficult. I am lucky and can afford a new one with maybe whatever helps to understand what the bottom is like. Anyone able to recommend a new boat?
I have the Actor Plus gps and deffo recommend it! I have a mount fitted, so I can use the deeper pro plus 2. The only downside is the gps is only accurate to 1 metre. So if you are fishing a tight spot, it's useless. But now I have the deeper fitted. I barely use the gps. I can't fault the boat in any other department. You can just get the Actor Plus without gps
bait boats have a place in fishing we all no people who try that near impossible cast under a tree or by the side of a over hanging bush only to leave there weights feeder or float in said tree or bush putting birds and small animals at risk my club have some 35 lakes and some river venues but they allow bait boats and you would be pushed to find tackle in any tree or bushes on the waters
Not for me, dont use drones/boats or sonar stuff in my angling but thats just me.... if someone wants to use it, not remotley arsed 😂. How someone else wants to catch carp is upto them, just dont call it angling
People were complaining about Heron bite alarms, the hair rig,bait boats, sonar, so long as they keep their opinions to themselves who gives a f@#k what they think.
Fishing using old school or new tech is highly personal and subjective.. but are both equally valid and enjoyable methods! ...and even though I dont use new tech, cameras, fish finders or bait boats etc ....my only occasional gripe is sometimes these tech boy catch more fish than me, and other times not... like all fishing sessions 😂😂😂
People said the same when reels were invented. Stone age spear fishermen probably whinged about the development of the net. Right now in another dimension, some barely verbal archaic hominid is sulking about 'those tall bald things' rolling things around on wheels.
Needing to use a bait boat for puddle fishing 😂😂😂😂😂. Takes skill to cast and bait accurately. 99% of lakes in this country are small, so why use a bait boat? Most people who use bait boats use them because it ups their catch rate, their not capable of catching consistently without one.
Need to use a bait boat?? Have you ever considered that it’s quite fun to use a bait boat? Fishing is meant to be fun, rods and reels are basically toys for grown ups and so is a bait boat. You obviously think you’re a better fisherman than someone who sometimes likes to have some fun with a bait boat 🤦♂️
Those boats are more and more often forbidden in my country because of peoples who are not serious with them. Fishing in obstacles, on the four corners off the lake… disrecpectfully off the others anglers. That’s a shame because i love it. I’m basicly broken ( 2 shoulders dislocated and clavicule broken, all hold together with screws and plates) and can not realy cast anymore, so those boats help me but i’m very limited on the water i can fish.
yeah if it has fish finders etc starts looking like the channel crossing but i also cant stand the spod all day knobs :/ lets be honest most of these guys are all the gear no idea i can see the benefits for presentation and placement and quiet etc
Baitboats are marmite, you either love or hate them. but like all technology ideas to help the angler they have their place. Most of the so called "celebrity anglers" use them on their own fishing when the cameras are not on them 24/7
Personally I think baitboats are great. They allow me to get under overhanging trees and near snags. But having sonar and cameras to see under the water is a bit over the top.
Nothing wrong with using boats. Better than spomming out load after load of bait and then plonking leads and marker floats into the lake. That would be more annoying than a silent boat cruising the lake. And easy to pop your rig back out at 3am when you’ve had a take. What next? Are bite alarms and receivers cheating? Want to stay up all night watching your bobbins???
fishing should be peacful to a point, bait boats are fine, they kill a bit of the joy of each catch imo, i did own one, drones should be banned, stunning lake/s
I use my drone to create my videos, that being said, if I do see a big group of fish, I wouldn't then ignore it. Perhaps a bit different for those people that have a drone just for fish finding maybe?
When playing golf would it be acceptable for someone to jump into a buggy coast down to the green and drop their ball into the hole? Or maybe use a drone to drop it in there? Fuck the skill side of it eh??
What ever happened to man and rod vs nature. Fishing aint just about putting fish on the bank but the skill of the angler. Technology is destroying that.
I don't mind bait boats to an extent if your fishing tight to far trees and far margins. Last thing you want is landing in a tree and snapping leaving a death trap for birds but I do draw a line at drones - it's not Ukraine FFS.
Why are people against bait boats! You will be telling me next that I shouldn’t be using an 80ft gill net to catch carp. What is wrong with people. Fishing is fishing! 🤣😂🤣 If men are allowed to box against women in Olympic boxing, then you should be allowed to use a bait boat!
Hear we go!! “Ave been fishing 99 years these bait boats and flying spaceships” “in my day” no one cares!! Fishing changes you never!! Boats good for certain situations! Turn it in haters!! You will turn up in your modern van and your iphone sowhy not use modern gear?? The phone didn’t bother you to comment on here how long you’ve been carping. Thought so
Still is if you opt not to get involved. That's the joy of it 🤣 purist cyclists probably scoff at Ebikes, but for some, that's the only way to get them on a bike
Am sure you already know this, but smear youtself in Tea tree oil. Puts mossies and other biting bugs right off. Unless they like Tea tree oil 🤣Boats not lazy bro. It's jealousy that gets folk moaning. Thrash the surface with a Spod while 9 other Anglers are doing the same?? Bait boats are ace.
I am capable of casting and have been since I started. Using a boat doesn't necessarily mean you lack skill, just different opinions on priorities and how you want to catch, or blank in my case 🤣
Bait boats Sonar Baiting poles Drones All banned where i fish and thank goodness they are deluding themselves and negating any significant catch ...unfortunately made.. Might as well stay at home and play a video... Oh and by the way ,a family member used to make design and sell baitboats years ago,i still think its cheating ,..because it is ,exactly that lack of skill replaced by tech...
Unfortunately it's getting rarer to see someone cast a rod then it is to see a baitboat go across to the pond. Each to their own, but please stop pretending you have any skill as an angler
@@nuffinbutfishing what are you getting at with that comment? You've literally made a video saying that it's the most hated way to fish, why is that? The fact that people are catching fish/carp from areas they would normally have no chance casting to, is not fishing. Im not the best angler but any carp I catch casting a rig (which normally takes many attempts i will add) is worth far more then any fish caught using a remote control boat.
@shaunfurley8190 you said its getting rarer to see people cast and I disagreed as people cast most places I go. I used a boat in this video but 95% of the time I don't. Wasn't a comment to get your back up mate was just continuing the discussion
@@nuffinbutfishing unfortunately on the waters I fish, I'm seeing it to often and in my opinion its a shame. I appreciate not everyone has the same physical and skill abilities but I honestly think it takes away the essence of fishing. The learning, the practice it takes, the mistakes, the improvement and of course the times all the above pays off. Be honest, on what scale do you think using a remote control boat takes away from the aspects ive just wrote about? A lot! No hard feelings, im obviously thinking about the topic too seriously and should probably let everyone enjoy their hobbies how they like, even if I don't necessarily agree with their approach
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Two rod lengths in a one rod length out on the right hand island there is a lovely clay patch it does fish alot of the time 👍
I have been fishing for carp for 20 years with great pleasure. But that has come to an end this year. The new young Netflix generation has really messed this up here in the Netherlands. With their disgusting behavior with those bait boats and drones. It has become really sickly. Bait boats that sail over your spot, drones that hang above your spot. Have 0.0 respect for other fishermen. Disgusting and it has made me decide to stop my wonderful hobby and focus on fly fishing and pike. Because carp fishing is completely destroyed from within and from social media and RUclips
I love telling bait boat haters that mine also has a camera on a winch so I can see my spots and watch my pva melt. They really don't like me!.
I hope people are sat there on an old deck chair, a Y shaped stick, washing up bottle top as a bite indicator, oh a centre pin reel on a split cane rod… but they won’t, they’ll be sat there on a chair that’s made using lightweight materials, with carbon rods, clutched and geared reels, digital bite alarms on stainless or carbon bank sticks…
I could go on, but you get the idea…
What boat have you got with a camera?
@@Pr0ject2 nd2 with stealth winch cam
@@gavinbryant9699 nice thank you. What's the difference between the ultra and the pro? Website isn't very clear
@@Pr0ject2 the ultra and pro are fish eye cams mine Is the stealth cam. Stealth are the best by far the support and customer service is second to none. Checkout there Facebook page you'll see
nothing wrong with a boat & deeper, helps alot for the pike fishing also
Long distance casting with a fk’d up shoulder or a bait boat?
Couldn’t give a rats cuss what people think, my bait boat is a god send and no more painful casts. Winner 😁
I must be a heathen , I would use a bait boat while using my cane rod’s , with no shame 😂
😂 good man
Heresy indeed 😅
Bait boats, baiting poles, deeper all cheating for muppets or rich kids. I've fished for carp for 64yrs without them, is nothing sacred in carp fishing anymore?
i'm up to 40 years carp fishing and have to admit i havent got any of the gear i started with back in the 80's. Equipment has evolved with the times. Nothing wrong with using whats available to everybody. Gone are the days of spending hour upon hour leading around for a spot, then another 2-3 hours spodding bait to said spots. i go now to relax and enjoy myself, using a baitboat is heaven nowdays. No more going home and aching for 2 days from constant spodding.
I've been specimen Carp hunting for 40 years. I have a Bait boat that i use on occasion. When i use it , it's used with the upmost respect and awarness for other Anglers. Am no muppet pal but i have a bit of cash. Maybe that's it eh? Green eyes.
Hero
I'm not rich but your description has labeled me a muppet 🤣
@@nuffinbutfishing 🤣🤣🤣
Don't like bait boats because they tempt the user to fish out of their water and often into stupid areas, there's enough stroke pulling goes on without all that, having said that I'd rather have a sensible bait boat user near me who discreetly puts his traps out than someone who comes up at bite time and leads all over the area then spombs the granny out of the place. As a short session guy that doesn't fish nights this happens to me all the time. These days if you turn up to fish early morning you have absolutely no idea of where others are fishing because of bait boats fishing to ludicrous places, sheer desprateness, there they all are bivvy zipped down sleeping off the last nights ale and weed. Bushwhackers are OK by me nice and stealthy, but all you bait boat boys don't kid yourself that it's your angling ability that is the edge. Rant over.
Love my bushwacker and it does feel more rewarding getting a bite from the spoon compared to a bait boat yet they are fundamentally doing the same thing
Look , I have one of theses Deeper sonar balls & there a great thing to have , especially when the fishing gets slow & they can provide details about the pond or lake your fishing & thats key to fishing & they can provide things about the species of fish your fishing for ,there’s nothing wrong about using something like this , hell here in the states , Pro Bass fishermen use sonar on their boats all the time especially in the Bass Master Classic . This is a game changer when it comes down to bank fishing & it beats sitting around all day just waiting for the fish to bite when you can look for them & put the bait right in front of them . These things tell you a lot about were your fishing & when it comes down to plastic baits l crank baits & such , it’s just picking the right color for the fish to hit them & that’s all to have to find out , color , appearance & how you make the bait work & this Deeper sonar are a combination you can’t beat .
Definitely great for learning about the lakes quickly
Anglers on most club lakes hate boats as they hate bushwhackers & drones......quality watch as always joe onto the next adventure tightlines look forward to the next video 🎣 👊
I fish a 100 acre lake so a bait boat is a must can understand if fishing a small lake but it's the way technology is going 👍plus it has its plus when trying to get rigs back out in the night I use the Nd auto pilot absolutely brilliant push a or b job done and what with all the new updates to there app top boat 👍
I think people should be able to do what they like, as long as it’s not detrimental to the fish, fishery, or other anglers. Otherwise, where do you draw’s the line, split cane? Spears? Jumping in and grabbing bream with your bare hands!!?
I'm opd school. If I can't cast to a spit I don't fish it, but I don't mind other anglers using boats as long as it stays well out of my swim
@kevinhall7347 nice and rational then 😁
If you got it use it but don’t use it as a crutch if your using a boat because you can’t cast then learn to cast before you become dependent on the boat but if your perfectly capable of casting but want to use a boat as an edge crack on.
Thinking that way about baiting with the flavours etc isn’t over thinking it bro it’s actually wise I do it a lot and does help out big time ! To catch the carp you have to think like the carp ! Great video man💯👌
Cheers for watching. 😁
I don't think you done much wrong there curly mate,found your spots,rigs made complete sense,I think it was just a case of a no show!!...great to see you back on tho,love the syndicate diary's!!👌👍
Cheers Jason and thanks for watching
There's nothing wrong with baitboats, just another piece of equipment, but plenty wrong with some of the people who use them. Boats are hardly new tech. I've owned a few, beginning 20+ years ago. It gets used when it's needed. Anyway, some anglers can't cope unless they have something to whinge about...
If boats are allowed then there a tool like any other we use in fishing. As you say fishing ain’t all about catching and overnighters are a benefit to your mental state good video 👍🏻🎣🐳
I recently injured my shoulder, Rotator Cuff Tear, making casting almost impossible unless its a 20 yard lob and that is painful. My choice is not fishing or get a bait boat. So, I am awaiting delivery of a bait boat!
Enjoy your bait boat!
I've got a baitboat but it has no feature finding stuff on it so I still have to find the spots with a leading rod, only use it on a couple of venues too I like casting most of the time. however if you wanna cast or use an all singing all dancing rt7 as long as you're happy that's all that matters. I don't think any less of anglers if they use tech
Say you didn’t use the mix if you took it back with you how long would it keep do you think?
Depends on preservatives. Most gear should be good for 3 days minimum, as long as it’s kept relatively cool. Most liquids and shelfies last for ages, non preserved pellets not so much. You can always freeze it.
@@tomwinterfishing9065 ahh freezing is a good idea! Thanks!
I personally think boats are ridiculous but each to their own. I'd not use one for fishing but I'd use it to map a lake out like he's doing here, finding depths etc to note down, same with a drone above the water to see what I could spot.
All about finding a balance for yourself
I agree about using the bait boat although I'm more of a spom and marker guy plus where I fish can get prity weedy so it doesn't come in handy finding holes in the weed it was interesting to see that you're gone back to basics I've just recently done the same thing and guess what after a 7 month blank I managed to get one plus the hook hold was bang in middle of the bottom lip
Simple is best 👌🏻
Yes it is I've had abuse for using a bait boat but I will still use it
I use a bait boat every time I go fishing I have ms so by the time I’ve got my stuff to my swim and set up I need a rest or half hour lay down and if I can save time and energy to enjoy going fishing more I always will ,you do get idiots with them though they just need to be used properly and there is always a time and place for them
All down to personal preference 😁
I use a bait boat with deeper (quest) and it 100% caught me my pb from Swan at Bluebell recently. I found a spot within 10mins first time on a weedy lake and the rod ripped off after an hour and half. I wouldn’t have even finished leading with a marker float by that time given how small the spot was. I can cast but have a torn disc so try not to if at all possible. Frankly I couldn’t care less what the next guy does or thinks (incidentally most were using bait boats)
There's a time and place for tech in fishing, what you've described being one of them.
Congrats on the personal best!
Bait boats are "fish at all costs" I started carping in 1980 so thats my old man opinion however...., i can see the "edge" they can have with the deeper so i would use one for depth/feature finding but i still wouldnt use it to drop baits. I dont have a problem with drones either. I love pork pies but hate salad so i cant be a total idiot!! Everyone to their own.
Isn't it just awesome just to sit on the bank in your own time just for you, as for the high tech fishing debate.....you aint gunna please all the folk all the time no matter what you do...but you already know that anyway, have you baited up using your drone yet? 👍
What hook patterns do you find work better in barbless?
The lock from omc are good
Pallatrax do a new thing called gripz a whole new technology
@imdaprophet never thought pallatrax , would that get around the barbless ban
@@stumpyfishermen6991some lakes ban pallatrax, the lock is a great barbless pattern
Been tempted a few times but still not purchased carp angling's devil's lettuce.
I hear people call it cheating but for me the only way it would be cheating is if it was used in an actual competition like the BCAC or the WCC.
Using a bait boat for delivering bait to a spot is no different to using a spomb or even using a baiting spoon on a pole.
I get that if people are using the sonar to try and find fish rather than checking the make up of the lake bed is taking it a bit far but it is human nature to be curious to see if there are any fish present.
It also saves time and the ball ache of having to do laps around the lake like an Olympian just to try and find fish that might not show which means guessing a good spot anyway 🤷♂️
I can't see it ever being allowed in competitions for sure 👌🏻
My bait boat is passed it's sell by date, had it for years. This is due to my loving of fishing but have physical problems which make multiple casting difficult.
I am lucky and can afford a new one with maybe whatever helps to understand what the bottom is like. Anyone able to recommend a new boat?
I have the Actor Plus gps and deffo recommend it! I have a mount fitted, so I can use the deeper pro plus 2. The only downside is the gps is only accurate to 1 metre. So if you are fishing a tight spot, it's useless. But now I have the deeper fitted. I barely use the gps. I can't fault the boat in any other department. You can just get the Actor Plus without gps
I like casting but I’m getting older like a lot of people 😊I will need a bait boat soon to continue fishing 😊
Go for it 😁
bait boats have a place in fishing we all no people who try that near impossible cast under a tree or by the side of a over hanging bush only to leave there weights feeder or float in said tree or bush putting birds and small animals at risk my club have some 35 lakes and some river venues but they allow bait boats and you would be pushed to find tackle in any tree or bushes on the waters
Agree with that as long as it's used sensible and not burying a boat in a snag!
I don't use a bait boat deffintly don't hate those who do wouldn't mind ago tbh 😅
What happened to the solid bags!
“The other idiots will eat the salad” 😂😂😂😂😂
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Not for me, dont use drones/boats or sonar stuff in my angling but thats just me.... if someone wants to use it, not remotley arsed 😂. How someone else wants to catch carp is upto them, just dont call it angling
How are you getting with Avid Exo bivvy?
People were complaining about Heron bite alarms, the hair rig,bait boats, sonar, so long as they keep their opinions to themselves who gives a f@#k what they think.
I use an Inflatable Boat when necessary. Cast a lot too. nothing wrong with Bait Boats - Drones - No.
Nice 👌🏻
Fishing using old school or new tech is highly personal and subjective.. but are both equally valid and enjoyable methods!
...and even though I dont use new tech, cameras, fish finders or bait boats etc ....my only occasional gripe is sometimes these tech boy catch more fish than me, and other times not... like all fishing sessions 😂😂😂
Here is the core issue, everyone has an opinion 🤣
People said the same when reels were invented.
Stone age spear fishermen probably whinged about the development of the net.
Right now in another dimension, some barely verbal archaic hominid is sulking about 'those tall bald things' rolling things around on wheels.
🤣🤣🤣
Needing to use a bait boat for puddle fishing 😂😂😂😂😂. Takes skill to cast and bait accurately. 99% of lakes in this country are small, so why use a bait boat? Most people who use bait boats use them because it ups their catch rate, their not capable of catching consistently without one.
Need to use a bait boat?? Have you ever considered that it’s quite fun to use a bait boat? Fishing is meant to be fun, rods and reels are basically toys for grown ups and so is a bait boat. You obviously think you’re a better fisherman than someone who sometimes likes to have some fun with a bait boat 🤦♂️
My catch rate hasn't changed using one but it has made me more efficient in certain situations
Nothing wrong in using a boat….. it’s the future lol😅
carp anglers are a breed of there own .let them carry on in there tackel tart ways
We love it though 🤣
Nothing wrong with bait biats when used sensibly
100% 👌🏻
Those boats are more and more often forbidden in my country because of peoples who are not serious with them. Fishing in obstacles, on the four corners off the lake… disrecpectfully off the others anglers. That’s a shame because i love it. I’m basicly broken ( 2 shoulders dislocated and clavicule broken, all hold together with screws and plates) and can not realy cast anymore, so those boats help me but i’m very limited on the water i can fish.
Quite a few venues in the UK only allow baitboats when used sensibly too
UTG!
@@saskcarp mind the gap
Looks nice place where are you m8
On my syndicate on the Somerset levels 👌🏻
It really pees me off when u look up a lake and on the rules say no bait boats. Just why
Because they’re often used by noddies
It’s a slippery slope.
Are drones acceptable? What about a drag net or even electro netting?
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It is indeed, but as long as it doesn't impact others, I don't see an issue with how other people choose to fish 👌🏻
yeah if it has fish finders etc starts looking like the channel crossing but i also cant stand the spod all day knobs :/ lets be honest most of these guys are all the gear no idea i can see the benefits for presentation and placement and quiet etc
Baitboats are marmite, you either love or hate them. but like all technology ideas to help the angler they have their place. Most of the so called "celebrity anglers" use them on their own fishing when the cameras are not on them 24/7
Quite. sweeping statement with likely little evidence on all known anglers? But yes, I'm sure they are used more than seen
Personally I think baitboats are great. They allow me to get under overhanging trees and near snags. But having sonar and cameras to see under the water is a bit over the top.
I think sonars are fine. Especially if you are going under tree and close to snags. Minimises the risk of dropping on branches and unseen snags
Fishing is meant to be fun, If someone finds using a bait boat fun and they use it responsibly then whats the problem.
100%
Nothing wrong with using boats. Better than spomming out load after load of bait and then plonking leads and marker floats into the lake. That would be more annoying than a silent boat cruising the lake. And easy to pop your rig back out at 3am when you’ve had a take. What next? Are bite alarms and receivers cheating? Want to stay up all night watching your bobbins???
Definitely seems to be a big divide on opinions on here but I'm with you
fishing should be peacful to a point, bait boats are fine, they kill a bit of the joy of each catch imo, i did own one, drones should be banned, stunning lake/s
I use my drone to create my videos, that being said, if I do see a big group of fish, I wouldn't then ignore it. Perhaps a bit different for those people that have a drone just for fish finding maybe?
When playing golf would it be acceptable for someone to jump into a buggy coast down to the green and drop their ball into the hole? Or maybe use a drone to drop it in there? Fuck the skill side of it eh??
@@Ericcartman666 I might take up golf if you could. 🤣
@nuffinbutfishing well yeah 💪
Only people that are rubbing there hands is the manufacturers laughing there ass off what a rip off. I’m not a hater just don’t class it as fishing.
Don't think there is much in fishing where manufacturers don't rub their hands with glee to be fair. It's an expensive hobby!
i dont use a baitboat any more its not fishing casting is fishing no drone no boat no deeper
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What ever happened to man and rod vs nature. Fishing aint just about putting fish on the bank but the skill of the angler. Technology is destroying that.
All about balance in my eyes. I wouldn't use one every trip but only when I choose to. All down to the individual and noone is forced to use them 👌🏻
What bivvy is that mate
Avid Exo+ 👌🏻
I don't mind bait boats to an extent if your fishing tight to far trees and far margins. Last thing you want is landing in a tree and snapping leaving a death trap for birds but I do draw a line at drones - it's not Ukraine FFS.
My drone is for filming purposes for you guys to watch. Having said that, if I then see fish, I'm not going to ignore it!
Carp fishing is the laziest easiest way of fishing that is if you can call it fishing,
Love it 😊
There's no skill in carp fishing fishing nowadays ,no great challenges anymore .
There are if you choose to make a challenge for yourself. All up to the individual
Why are people against bait boats! You will be telling me next that I shouldn’t be using an 80ft gill net to catch carp. What is wrong with people. Fishing is fishing! 🤣😂🤣
If men are allowed to box against women in Olympic boxing, then you should be allowed to use a bait boat!
Let's not get into a gender debate please 🤣
Hear we go!! “Ave been fishing 99 years these bait boats and flying spaceships” “in my day” no one cares!! Fishing changes you never!! Boats good for certain situations! Turn it in haters!! You will turn up in your modern van and your iphone sowhy not use modern gear?? The phone didn’t bother you to comment on here how long you’ve been carping. Thought so
It was bound to get a variety of opinions 🤣
I'm not fond of modern fishing techniques at all. Carp fishing has gone completely stupid and has overcomplicated what should be a peaceful pass-time.
Still is if you opt not to get involved. That's the joy of it 🤣 purist cyclists probably scoff at Ebikes, but for some, that's the only way to get them on a bike
This is nOt angling. This is cheating.
Couldn't even catch whilst "cheating" so i'm out of luck
Bait boats are pathetic . I fully expect to see Carp fisherman adopting Scuba diving gear as the norm going forward.
Sounds like a good video idea. Cheers
Am sure you already know this, but smear youtself in Tea tree oil. Puts mossies and other biting bugs right off. Unless they like Tea tree oil 🤣Boats not lazy bro. It's jealousy that gets folk moaning. Thrash the surface with a Spod while 9 other Anglers are doing the same?? Bait boats are ace.
I've heard Avon skin so soft is the one!
@@nuffinbutfishing I'll try that 🙏✌️
I find the people that moan about bait boats are the ones that cant afford one 😂each to there own i say plus i dont care wot people say or think
Could well be the case 👀🤣
Not cricket really is it
Don't even get this comment 🤣
@@nuffinbutfishing it means bait boats etc take a lot of the skill out of water craft, casting an bait application so there your now educated
@user-kf3nd9qd9g Thank you, and* you're* now educated too. 🤪
If you have no skill or confidence then go with a bait boat make all the excuses you just lack the skills
I am capable of casting and have been since I started. Using a boat doesn't necessarily mean you lack skill, just different opinions on priorities and how you want to catch, or blank in my case 🤣
What bivvy is that
Yeah it's hated coz it's kinda cheating takes the skill from fishing 🎣
I'll admit I was lazy in this video, but they can be an edge in situations where genuinely needed
If you’re not disabled, it’s cheating.
Wrong…..if it’s against the rules it’s cheating. Period.
Yes and no. People using them on tiny lakes are bellends. Snaggy, large waters.....i can see why people use them.
I wouldn't tho.
That makes me a bell end then 🤣
Bait boats
Sonar
Baiting poles
Drones
All banned where i fish and thank goodness they are deluding themselves and negating any significant catch ...unfortunately made..
Might as well stay at home and play a video...
Oh and by the way ,a family member used to make design and sell baitboats years ago,i still think its cheating ,..because it is ,exactly that lack of skill replaced by tech...
Love my baiting pole 😝
Drones by far the worst
I only use mine for filming purposes but if I see fish held up somewhere in the process I would be stupid to ignore it
Unfortunately it's getting rarer to see someone cast a rod then it is to see a baitboat go across to the pond. Each to their own, but please stop pretending you have any skill as an angler
Don't know where you fish but it's quite rare to see a boat where I go 🤔
@@nuffinbutfishing what are you getting at with that comment? You've literally made a video saying that it's the most hated way to fish, why is that? The fact that people are catching fish/carp from areas they would normally have no chance casting to, is not fishing. Im not the best angler but any carp I catch casting a rig (which normally takes many attempts i will add) is worth far more then any fish caught using a remote control boat.
@shaunfurley8190 you said its getting rarer to see people cast and I disagreed as people cast most places I go. I used a boat in this video but 95% of the time I don't. Wasn't a comment to get your back up mate was just continuing the discussion
@@nuffinbutfishing unfortunately on the waters I fish, I'm seeing it to often and in my opinion its a shame. I appreciate not everyone has the same physical and skill abilities but I honestly think it takes away the essence of fishing. The learning, the practice it takes, the mistakes, the improvement and of course the times all the above pays off. Be honest, on what scale do you think using a remote control boat takes away from the aspects ive just wrote about? A lot! No hard feelings, im obviously thinking about the topic too seriously and should probably let everyone enjoy their hobbies how they like, even if I don't necessarily agree with their approach
i watched till the bait boat came out not impressed good bye
Adios! Lol
Bait boat tossers
Thanks for watching
You should fish to your casting ability I've seen baitboaters setting there rigs in some stupid places where the fish get snagged and damaged