Bigger question for Raiders: QB or Offensive Coordinator? | NFL Live
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2024
- Jeff Darlington joins Laura Rutledge, Marcus Spears, Andrew Hawkins and Dan Orlovsky on NFL Live to discuss the Las Vegas Raiders signing WR Michael Gallup to a one-year deal and the team’s chances of success after missing out on a top QB prospect in the draft.
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we dont want dak, f that!!!
DAK would be a great addition to the RAIDERS .. COWBOYS FANS DONT APPTECIATE HIM
He's a better QB than both of them
@rodjulius2745 yeah for 5x the money is marginally better.. if we wanted that we would have kept Derek Carr
Haha exactly, Dak is a rich mans Carr
Don’t pick up Dallas mistakes
“Joe Dirt” Minshew will do fine. With the uptick with their defensive scheme and the offensive firepower, I am glad they didn’t reach for a QB in the draft.
AOC is starting
Agree 💯. Di not forget AOC. Both of these guys are good enough to take the team into the playoffs and win a game this season
@@user-zk3tg1ws4q stop lying to the public. AOC is about as mid as you can get. If they could have found better in the off-season they would have in a heartbeat. He’s average.
you are certainly in for a treat. this will be one of the most middling qb scenarios available in the NFL.
Facts. It's a completely different scenario for AOC and I'm interested in how he will do this season
If Minshew or O'Connell play slightly above average this is a playoff team, assuming the defense doesn't regress
Last year we had great defence hopefully this carry’s in the upcoming season
Minshew is a pretty good QB. He doesn't get enough credit by the talking heads. I'll be rooting for him like I did Baker last year since he's an underdog.
Agree 💯
good luck
The defense definitely won't. Wilkins alone will make this a top 5 defense
They went 8-9 last year with McDaniels for the first 6 games, not sure how he can claim they are only one win better of a team after adding multiple big time pieces and an improvement at QB, even if it may be small.
None of the talking heads ever say the Raiders have improved! And every year they mock draft us a cornerback! 😂
Because it's a tough league. They are not many games better that 8 games, maybe 10 if everything goes perfect
@foxfire1112 How do you know thats the ceiling?
They are still a mid squad and they are in a pretty solid division, 8 wins is lowkey generous
@@foxfire1112 Raiders won 8 and could have had 9 last year with waaaaaay less than perfect occurrences! Crackhead Defensive End, injured 1st rounder, injury prone QB, shitty head coach for 8 games, rookie 4th round QB starting 10 games, Hunter playing his way off the team, regular injuries, Josh Jacobs falling off etc! 😂Based on how imperfect last season was, this year should be 10-11 games easy as long as Max, Davonte, Wilkerson and Jack Jones stay healthy!
Raiders not Drafting a QB, have a lot of confidence in #4 and #15
Raider nation
Aiden O’Connell is the greatest quarterback in the AFC west
@@tripp8833 you must be smoking some good crack AOC ain’t no starter
We have confidence in our sub par QBs?? Really??
There wasn’t a QB to reach for 🤷🏾♂️
It would take Rattler several years to get to where Minshew is right now. There was no point in drafting Rattler.
This team has all the pieces on offense.... and will go as far as Getsy's ability to take advantage of the weapons!
And Minshew is Where Actually?
All the weapons except QB 😒
@@S60Wa little bit better than t law
Getsy is a bad play caller. His two dimensional thinking will be a liability.
@@mrlusk464 AOC overcame doubters all his life.
AOC gonna shock the world ☠️
❤
He gonna shock the world from the bench
From where? The bench? You don't pay 7.5m/yr for a backup bro
We didn't want Fields either
@@jacobc4582High paid backup. Need an insurance plan if AOC don't work out
Bummed out we didn’t land Penix. At least Minshew is a upgrade at QB than Jimmy G
Little do they know, most raider fans don't want dak.
Coach pierce eveb after minshew: "aiden is the guy and its his job to lose"
Espn: so minshew is clearly qb1
ESPN RETARDS
He didn't say that. He said they have to compete for it. Minshew is the better QB. He's just being respectful to AoC and we all know that except the socially inept like you.
ESPN: Minshew is clearly #1 until Dak gets there.
FTFY
Aiden’s literally the starter on the depth chart
@@fernandosantiago1679 out of respect. He's not beating out minshew and you don't pay almost 10m a year for a backup.
What an idiotic comment. AOC and Gardner are both better than Fields
Fields is great . Your tripping. Raiders will regret not getting him
@@knowtheSLOAKLANDfields is trash
@@mymaynee5963that's a lie
No they aren’t 💀
@@knowtheSLOAKLANDwhy would we get a qb and lose assets via trade?? When the offensive coordinator was his previous coach… clearly the bears didn’t workout so why we would adopt that logic makes no sense.
This OC never had weapons like this!!!!! Going to find out real quick what HIS offense is about!!!!
Getsy did his job in Chicago--to let Justin Fields show whether he could be a franchise QB. The Raiders hired him after looking at game tape and seeing all the open receivers that Fields didn't see, and all the sacks that Fields himself caused while trying to process what was in front of him...at a snail's pace. It's tough to succeed as an OC when you're given responsibility to develop an utterly clueless quarterback.
The Chicago bears roster was terrible compared to the raiders rn. People forget getsys system is the same from Green Bay with Aaron rogers and davante balling out
Crazy. AP already said that AOC was the starter unless Minshew can beat him out. AOC last four games, 8TD 0INT. He took two weeks off at the end of the season but has practically lived at the practice facility since. Watch some tape on him before trying to minimize him. The Raiders went 8-9 last season despite all of the turmoil that happened, and added some great pieces, then you say that might win only 8 games again? All I can do is just shake my head.
You are correct. AOC seems ready to start but Minshew is also a good QB and beat the Raiders twice. I like both QBs and I give the edge to MINSCHEW because he's mobile and seems made for being a Raider QB. THE beard and long hair and charm. He gets my nod but AOC is going to be right there.
@@billlozier5551have you seen AOC mustache lol, seriously tho I think AOC is going to surprise
It’s AOC’s job to lose. I think he’s going to get the first crack at QB1 if he falters, he’s going to the bench.
Dak? Nope. Hard Pass.
No way . He is talented and under-rated..
@@knowtheSLOAKLAND in your dreams
He’s 5 times the QB Minshew will ever be
Everybody go look up Maxx’s podcast where D Adams talks about Getsy. He was the WR’s coach in Green Bay. Adams is 100% on board for Getsy. Chicago just didn’t have the cast to utilize his system. If Adams and AP approve, I’m good with it.
I think they 100% nailed it on their take about the offense. It is going to be up to Getsy and other Off Coordinators to put this talent in positions to be productive, move the chains and score TDs. AOC is being slept on I feel like his label as a "statue" QB will change although I believe Minshew might still beat em out at first but AOC will show improvements.
I think he will play from day1 and have a good season.
Hopefully Getsy can gain some creativity in his play calling because what he did last year was weak. If they can get a high pick in 25 and get a QB, maybe they can get rid of Getsy then and get a real OC.
@@chadwickerman LOL you Bears fans are like broken records, how can a coach have creativity when HE CAN"T RUN HIS OFFENSE because the QB can't handle it. Fields had the same problem in college he can't handle pro offense. Why do you think he ran so many screens? Maybe because the QB can't process and read the defense, or he holds on to the ball because he doesn't know what to do. Talk to any Ohio State fan for gods sake that was his problem there in fact OS already ran an easy QB friendly offense when Fields got there and they had to make it a ONE read offense for Fields. So they had to simplify a simple offense LOL. Not many people can run a pro offense Fields wouldn't be the first + athlete that can't process fast enough the history of the NFL is littered with them. Watch this year the Raiders offense will look nothing like the Bears offense and the Raiders probably don;t have their QB yet but it will still like a modern pro offense. So enough with bashing the coach because he didn't have a QB that could run his offense why do think the Bears traded him for a 6th round pick in NEXT years draft.
@@jameshannagan4256he can't read plays he just plays football IMO AND NOT VOCAL ENOUGH ON THE LINE I BARELY SEE DUDE CHANGE THE PLAY ON BLITZES
speaking for all raider fans - we aint want dak lolol
I've been a raider fan for almost 34 years and I would get a Prescott jersey the day he signed
Yep
You don't speak for all of us
Id trade 2 first for dak any day of the week and twice on sundays
No dak
I promise you , no Raider fan wants Prescott 😂.
I pray we don't
Raiders upgrading every position AROUND a QB so that when they do draft their Future QB it’ll be an easier transition. I would expect them to go after either Carson Beck, Jalen Milroe or Cam Ward for 2025 Draft.
Going after lesser names expecting them to be superstars instead of going after heisman winners or first round picks
@@tanneredge9774 Carson Beck and Ward will be first round picks next year
@@dannygrant639 no they won’t. They’re QBs who are protected by all time great defenses.
@@tanneredge9774 could’ve said the exact same bout JJ and Bo Nix and they went in the top 12…. 😑😑😑😑
@@tanneredge9774 you don’t know ball
no thanks in paying Dak 45 mil
Raiders don’t want Dak. Thank you for the offer. Maybe the browns will take him
We don't need a QB AOC or Minshew
Missing out on a QB hurts but not panicing and getting a weapon obviously is a plus. It's going to be interesting to see the QB play
49ers over the last 5 years
QB wasn't a real need. It was talking head trash. O'Connell was a rookie last season and did great in the last month of last season. He'll just keep improving. Raiders Defense over the last 8 games was #1 in the league for scoring and has just improved with the off season acquisitions. The Raiders are 12 win team if healthy.
@@GuitarsNAmmo We won a game that he didn't throw a completion for 3 quaters. We lost to the vikings 0-3. That's not great by any means. It's hard to find many teams with a weaker QB room right now
@@foxfire1112 Facts
What are they talking about, Dak is sorry.
I agree with this! I'm not even worried about the quarterback situation, or the offense, I'm worried about Getsy If I spell his name correctly, play calling. People from Chicago surely don't miss him. What was they record again? He was so bad, they paid him to leave!
Some team will end up giving Dak the big contract, happens every year. As a Cowboys fan, I hope it's not Dallas.
Great Convo Panel. Go Raiders!
This is the most pumped up I’ve been
I remember 40 years ago when we won the last superbowl trophy we have.
We had several seasons since then that we had great teams and legit chances.
But last 20 years we keep getting new coaches that add ball handler skills like adding HP to the engine. But we keep trying to run the race with two or more flat tires- Our oline can’t block good enough plain and simple. Loose the trenches = loose the season. If we had a top 5 Oline DC4 could have done amazing things. Having an average offensive line with an average QB will bring you average results.
Mahomeless is the best qb in the league right now- pay attention to their wins/losses and how it is affected by their offensive line.
Our defense is our only hope right now.
Defense will be a top 5 unit, idk about the offense. But I do like the TE BB!
Gallup is a decent pickup. But I feel like Raiders are notoriously known for picking up veteran WR mid career that are in the low mid caliber but end up cutting them by week 1. We’ll see how he performs.
How are they set at wr? They had 3 and the rest are min contracts.
I hope we can get Drew Allar in next years draft🏴☠️🏴☠️
RaiderFan since 1967... We have a GM. We have Our HC. WE PLAY WITH WHO WE HAVE. Next season we picking 17-19 in the 1st round. Yesss OC Getsy gotta have a good plan, we have weapons. The Defense will be on point. I would love to see Dak in Silver n Black
I think drafting a QB is Hard for the Raiders picking from the 17-20 spot next Season. Telesco did a Great Job for the Raiders
I remember a back up quarterback from Kansas City that came over to the raiders. He did pretty good even though these type of media outlets Said he wouldn't because he was just a backup quarterback in kansas city and had been in the league forever. Don't listen to these fools. Watch what happens on the grass.
Look at all the offensive draft pics Indy just got for Richardson in the draft, Raiders got a tight end
They're taking the Shanahan approach, they have Soo many weapons now on Offense that they don't need Superman at QB to be successful
That’s a good perspective. I can see that. The QB just needs to not turn the ball over and get the ball to the play makers. No need to try and put the game on their shoulders.
@@yungpuppz 💯💯
Best defense last 8 to 10 games of last season that’s our bread and butter now
We will find out a lot about Getsy and Minshew this season. Neither have had much to work with last year and the jury is still out on if Fields is an NFL QB.
they didn’t argue getsy in GB when adams had some of his best seasons
Rather have O’Connell than Minshew or Dak.. Aiden is gonna take a HUGE step forward in year 2
Aidan is gonna shock people like he has done at EVERY level. 30 tds 12 picks
Why does it seem like everyone is talking about AOC like he's been knocked down to 3rd sting and is close to not making the team? He's been working in the building with other players all off-season. He did well with his situation last year. Minshew is there to compete, but he wasn't hired to just be given the job.
“When you look around the division there at best 3, maybe even 4.” But they were second in the division last year..
Minshew was built for Getsy's style of west coast. Raiders are in trouble if he goes down though.
the new offensive caller and GM being both thought of as avg or worse is biggest problem in Las Vegas
Luke Getsy is a question mark but it also comes down to personnel. If the QB can't run his system then they both fail obviously. We will see who was truly to blame later this year. I think Fields is not as bad as people say and same goes for Luke Getsy it was just not a good fit.
As a Raiders fan I don't blame them for not drafting a QB. All the good ones were gone. I'm riding with AOC as QB1 next season. 🏴☠️
Minshew is gonna win the camp battle and start. If he sucks or gets injured, then AOC will step in.
Menshew will be starting for us , #Raider Nation let's go..
DA supported Luke. His former OC. DA said the talent in Chi couldn’t run the system
One thing I will say minshew never had weapons like he has now
Thank you Hawk.. everybody talking about our qbs, the narrative Is exactly on the cordinator because the oline Is stacked now. It’s on Luke getsky you got what you got it’s on him now!
Don't sleep on Aidan O'Connell. He is nowhere near his ceiling.
Minshew has an actual chance in Vegas, this is his year to prove that he is that dude. If not, okay we do what we gotta do for our WB in the draft.
I'm rooting for him. Hopefully he can have a season like Baker Mayfield did last year.
@@chadwickerman I love the idea of a team full of dawgs… teams like that don’t need a superstar QB to carry them. They all ride and grind. Hopefully the chemistry is on point.
Marcus got it right
Raiders need another slot WR to fill that void of Renfrows role and put Adams on the WR1 routes he’s known for.
I am more worried about their Offensive coordinator
Luke Getsy was held back in Chicago by Eberflus.
Better than the last few years
Brady is going to pull a Mario Lemieux😂
Get over it
Brady is coming to the Raiders 😂😂😂. Get Ready.....
U being Fr or nah?
As a partial owner...
As a minority owner that is it he won't be able to play then no matter what
Ownership hasn’t been approved yet - he can still suit up
That would be an insane story if he came in mid-season and made some noise in the playoffs
Davante, Jacobi, and Tre is stacked?
No Dak !
All raider quarterbacks will excell.Better everything.sweet it going to be oh so much better.
Thing is Derek Carr isn’t there anymore for players to reignite their careers
As a Raider fan, the trust in a guy who couldn’t throw for 70 yards against the best team in our division blows my mind 😅
AOC without a full pre season as a starter plus all the mess with mcdaniels, he did very good. He must be good enough if the coaching stuff trusts him.
I’d feel much better trading for the best QB next years draft (probably Shedeur Sanders) than throwing Dak Prescott all that money. The team is set for a rookie QB to come in and thrive
This Raider team may have the most talent Minshew has played with
I think Minshew will surprise people he’s shown that if you give him weapons he can win you games and this receiving core is 100% better than what he had in Indy
The Raiders staff really likes AOC. If he was picked in the 1st or 2nd, i guarantee the media would have even come up with this topic.
Lets not forget how many back up qbs won Superbowls 😮🤔
Davantae has confidence in Gettsy I have confidence in Gettsy ! He’s never had so many weapons !
The way AOC played the last 5 games. He would've been the first player in the draft this year.
Dak can stay in Dallas. We have a young team when just need a Qb that knows how to handle the heat 🏈. #RaiderNation4Life
Aoc was the second best rookie qb in the league last year look it up cj was number 1
No on Dak
Minshew can be Ken Stabler 2.0 and that's the how Autumn Wind goes
Why do yall just assume Minshew wins the job?
minshew is a baller!!!
Consider this, prior to the start of last season, coming off a season where Jacobs led the league in rushing, Everyone said the offense was going to be great. The offense stunk. the improvement to the offense is JPJ and Bowers and suddenly people saying the offense is going to be great again? I dont buy it. The QB play cant be any better as they still have sitting ducks at QB. Hopefully the oline is way better and QB will have better time. I dont think Bowers makes much difference, as Adams is first option and when he isn't getting catches, they start forcing it to him which does no one any good. Neither RB has break away speed, so in the event raiders have lead in 4th quarter, great can run clock out. Should have drafted Guerendo in 4th round to get that lightning guy. Can only bare to watch rb's running into brick walls for so long. Im predicting Raiders offense to struggle to start the year, so hopefully im wrong!!!!
We need to go for tannihill
As much as Im NOT a dak fan, the raiders would have a team ready for a QB1 to step in & have sucess right away. The oline & dline are strengths & the WRS room is 2nd to none right now.
I been saying this with Justin fields not having his 5th yr option picked up he will be relatively cheap and we could get him depending on how this season plays out
We going to the Playoffs this year
Qb is still gonna be issue
You don’t think Aiden will get better? They were already winning with him
Agree
No it won't he beat us an we had a top 5 defense an at QB what weapons did he have in Indy lol
@@kingme2378 so again like last year we had a defense but not with solidify qb we ain’t doing nothing AOC just a back up and minshew love dog fight but he ain’t a starter which they will put him in
Maybe, maybe not it would be nice to have a crystal ball but no one does so you don't have a clue. I think AOC will beat out Minshew and have a good season but I think so, I don't know. You shouldn't make statements like you know what's going to happen AOC has talent if he came out his junior year he would have been a 1st rd pick. I'm sure you didn't know that or watched him play in college. People just judge guys by their draft slot and pontificate from their rectums.
It's fine they have Brock Bowers
So why didn’t any of these “great football minds” bring up Green Bay when Luke Gatsey was the offensive coordinator there hmmm 🤔
We are not stacked at wr , we ok now , but saying stacked was stupid
They got a lil better
AOC is our guy. Minshew can be a backup
Dak chokes when he's in big gms that would be a horrible decision
Joe dirt will be fine, he’s got that old school raider vibe and he was weapons to throw to!
He'll no pass on dak
The OC needs to study and run NE sheme with Gronk & Hernandez, just sayin
Getsy got Way more weapons than he had in Chicago
Justin Fields is terrible. Cant throw or progress through reads correctly
Tell me a rookie qb that played better than Oconnel not named Stroud! Illl wait