Who's In Charge of the Tempo?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 мар 2022
  • Ahead? Behind? Right in the middle?
    Learn how to navigate the time from modern masters Christian McBride & Gregory Hutchinson.
    The video covers what to do when the bass player slows down, the drummer speeds up, and specific techniques McBride and Hutch use that you can implement in your own rhythm section playing today.
    Check out the new Mastering Rhythm course with Melissa Aldana, Christian McBride, Peter Martin and more! - openstudiojazz.link/rhythm
    Unlock your FREE Open Studio trial to become a better player today → osjazz.link/trial
    Part 2 here: "What's Different About Today's Musicians?" - • What's Different About...
    Learn more from Christian McBride - openstudiojazz.link/mcbride-bass
    Learn more from Greg Hutchinson - openstudiojazz.link/hutch-drums
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  • @honeybee4316
    @honeybee4316 2 года назад +206

    No matter what the drummer & bass player play there will always be a horn player complaining about it

    • @joeyollie123
      @joeyollie123 Год назад +13

      Just finding a horn player who will play WITH you and not just noodle around, completely out of time, over the top can be difficult 😂

    • @shawnbruce6934
      @shawnbruce6934 8 месяцев назад +1

      LOL.

    • @CamerOneiric
      @CamerOneiric 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@joeyollie123All while telling you to “stay in time” lol

  • @DarinWilson
    @DarinWilson 2 года назад +366

    This was absolute gold. Hey @openstudio - could we get a whole course of these two just playing and talking?

  • @mtp4430
    @mtp4430 2 года назад +167

    Great video. I'm a bassist who tends to play ahead of the beat at times. I've played with some excellent drummers who would accommodate and beautifully lay back a bit. Then before I knew it, they somehow managed to subtly recalibrate my push. Man, I love excellent drummers. A bass players brother in the groove.

    • @victorparedes4863
      @victorparedes4863 2 года назад +3

      Develop your own inner clock, stop leaning on the drummer. This is endemic in today's players. Check out Miles great quintet with Herbie, Ron and Tony. Nobody leaned on any body else. That's what made this group great.

    • @mtp4430
      @mtp4430 2 года назад +22

      @@victorparedes4863 I never said I didn't have an inner clock. When the adrenaline flows, I tend to push the beat a bit depending on the situation. And I have found that drummers who are great time keepers are able to make the adjustment to snap me right out of it. It goes both ways. I've righted drummers who are either lagging or a bit ahead of the beat also. It's called teamwork. Teammates pick each other up. A coach doesn't tell the player to just work on his end of it and let the rest of the players worry about their end of it. That's not what a team is, and that's not what a band does.

    • @mikekoenig6467
      @mikekoenig6467 3 месяца назад

      Love that!!​@@mtp4430

  • @pdbass
    @pdbass 2 года назад +2

    Yep, yep, yessir. This is gold. Thank you!

  • @michaelmccrary5037
    @michaelmccrary5037 2 года назад +68

    Excellent! See, the groove isn't everybody playing the exact same thing - it's FEELING the same thing. That requires a deep understanding of these small differences in timing. Great discussion by two real pros.

  • @CarlHamilton1914
    @CarlHamilton1914 23 дня назад +1

    As a drummer who’s played with bass players that push, this is absolute gold!

  • @porgie66
    @porgie66 2 года назад +22

    Thanks for the shout Chris!! This was golden. 🥇Chris, you jumped on that Lined!! 😂🔥It's all about listening and responding.

  • @ecaepevolhturt
    @ecaepevolhturt 2 года назад +12

    If Mingus is in the band, everybody follows Mingus. If Art Blakey is in the Band everybody follows Art Blakey.

  • @MrZedhow
    @MrZedhow 3 месяца назад +2

    Awesome insight, could listen to these two all day.

  • @stantomas
    @stantomas 2 года назад +18

    great discussion on "time". being a drummer i've heard too many times how I am the sole time keeper, but i see it more as the band is the time, everyone a touch ahead, behind or on the beat...then the bass and drums in their zone so the other layers can flow on top...thats what makes esp live music so cool....when the band is locked...thats when magic happens....

    • @darwinsaye
      @darwinsaye 2 года назад

      Exactly how I feel about it. If any of the other players lose the plot if the drums stop, they need to either up their game or be replaced. Everyone in the band should be able to retain the time in their head.

  • @clancywiggam
    @clancywiggam 2 года назад +21

    I wish I could find a drummer as good as this guy. He is so subtle, everything sounds beautiful. The amount of times I have to ask a drummer to tone it down on gigs. Do they not understand they play a LOUD instrument and that being a good drummer is not only about technique but also about control. Choosing the drums is like choosing a pit bull as a pet, not a bad thing per se, but if you don't train it properly it is going to f*** up the picnic!

    • @AndreasDelleske
      @AndreasDelleske 2 года назад +1

      This. Especially as a singer, your overtones (the sound quality) often get blocked by drummers playing too much rides or at the wrong moments. We and the audience need the high frequencies above singing range to always recalibrate not only the pitch (that should work on its own) but the expression too and we're only able to do that when the drummer leaves enough space. I don't care much what other instruments do (they can come in whenever they want) but I follow the base most and the drummer should listen to me, maybe even know my text and phrasing but also be in dialogue, pulling / pushing with the base. Leave some space goddammit :) If you can pull it off, you're awesome with brushes, hihat and snare alone :) you need the rides to control the lagging brass but not me :)

    • @webstercat
      @webstercat Год назад +2

      For a drummer the control comes with learning how to play at ppp. Just learning to touch the instrument.

    • @markjohnson9485
      @markjohnson9485 Год назад +1

      I feel you, a good drummer is definitely hard to find, for sure

  • @billyjleva
    @billyjleva 2 года назад +141

    This was great. I got Greg's fundamentals class. I highly recommend it whether you're a novice or advanced. Just to hear from a pro. Also I want to say, the sound recording/mix on this video is stellar.

    • @robertpowell9618
      @robertpowell9618 2 года назад +2

      Yes those dynamite engineers! It is the open studio man come on

  • @acme.videos
    @acme.videos 2 года назад +6

    Excellent demonstration for all musicians. Thank you!!

  • @tigerscott2966
    @tigerscott2966 2 года назад

    That is really cool. Nothing can replace a classic. 2 guys. A drum set and a bass. A treat for the ears. Thanks.

  • @jonathanhorvath3689
    @jonathanhorvath3689 2 года назад +12

    Incredible video, could watch these two for hours

  • @jonunderscore
    @jonunderscore 2 года назад +2

    Thank you so much for putting these great teachers together and making them available to us. You are doing something important for the next generations of music

  • @DILLiF
    @DILLiF 2 года назад +24

    The production of this video is great! From the film quality to the animations that go along with the content. Great stuff!

  • @gimbrere
    @gimbrere 2 года назад +5

    Such a great insight into the magic of making Music together. Great stuff.

  • @waynematthews8165
    @waynematthews8165 2 года назад +5

    Such a great conversation and demonstration of real DnB!

  • @justinnelsonmusic6848
    @justinnelsonmusic6848 2 года назад +10

    Great content in this video, and an even greater attention to detail and production value by Open Studio. Keep this level of excellence and you'll...well...the sky will be the limit. A true pleasure.

  • @elkeoverton6001
    @elkeoverton6001 2 года назад +1

    I love his explanation of the concept or need to "recalibrate". That's a great way to explain the interplay and connection that needs to happen between them. Great video!

  • @Thecovebandatx
    @Thecovebandatx 2 года назад +1

    just gorgeous playing by both guys!

  • @solenkeks
    @solenkeks 2 года назад +6

    I could watch an hour long version of this!
    Their chemistry and playing are both gold

  • @crieverytim
    @crieverytim 2 года назад +9

    Thank you for including examples. Makes watching this a pleasure instead of having to interupt this and look the clip up myself

  • @spikeklein270
    @spikeklein270 2 года назад +32

    I loved every second of this video. These two guys are amazing. Did you notice how casual and cool they sound while discussing truly profound timekeeping concepts? Masters!

  • @robbes7rh
    @robbes7rh 2 года назад +10

    I know a gold nugget when I see one, and this one is a keeper I’ll be coming back to again and again. Invaluable insight is what I take away. The musicianship skills these two guys bring to the table is where it’s at.

  • @almendratlilkouatl
    @almendratlilkouatl 2 года назад

    Guys, for real it's the third time I subscribe to your channel, and I don't remember ever unsubscribing at all

  • @marvinparadroid
    @marvinparadroid 2 года назад +4

    What a beautiful lesson

  • @carlosnovaes6993
    @carlosnovaes6993 2 года назад

    Superb Duo!! God Bless You!!

  • @Manjusri54
    @Manjusri54 2 года назад +4

    Priceless. I LOVE this.

  • @fabriziobarisano1795
    @fabriziobarisano1795 Год назад

    Great lesson from 2 masters. Understanding the dynamics in jazz music is the key

  • @Bati_
    @Bati_ 2 года назад

    This is the best teaser trailer I've ever seen in my life! I'm extremely hyped about this one!

  • @johnsayre2038
    @johnsayre2038 2 года назад +2

    Master craftsmen at work. Brilliant.

  • @kw0103
    @kw0103 2 года назад +5

    Great conversation!

  • @pitibiribas
    @pitibiribas Год назад

    i keep coming back to this. so much precious info

  • @markjohnson9485
    @markjohnson9485 Год назад +1

    I was taught by a former big band drummer that the Bass always carries the tempo. I used that knowledge to form a trio of 2 guitars and a bass and it works well. Great post

  • @jerryramosbass7913
    @jerryramosbass7913 2 года назад +1

    This was great!! More please!🎼🎵👍💪

  • @fattmusiek5452
    @fattmusiek5452 2 года назад +15

    that drum kit LOOKS like it sounds amazing. Beautiful kit and more importantly, these massive players. love this

  • @jgd65
    @jgd65 2 года назад

    I could listen to you fellas all day!

  • @BFJC1
    @BFJC1 2 года назад

    An extremely helpful video! Thanks!

  • @chicagospots
    @chicagospots 2 года назад

    This was fantastic! Thanks, guys!

  • @deborahdavis6320
    @deborahdavis6320 4 месяца назад +1

    I LOVE Both Y'ALL. And you know I do. I'm desperately trying to teach this all over the world. Musicians looking at me crazy when I explain I need y'all to play RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. Period because I'm phrasing around the TEMPO. Now days I just send them these type RUclips Clips. Thanks for this one. I'm all up on here looking for teaching tools. I don't play base or drums, but I sung with BOTH you guys so I know what tempo spoze to be like. LOL

  • @ralphhumphrey445
    @ralphhumphrey445 2 года назад

    Once again, you guys are telling it like it is. Thanks.

  • @sid5537
    @sid5537 2 года назад

    Amazing video. Thanks guys

  • @CWBella
    @CWBella 2 года назад

    Great discussion! Great to keep in mind no matter what instrument you play: channel your inner McBride and Hutch.

  • @maxibeyer7989
    @maxibeyer7989 2 года назад +1

    GREAT, WE WANT MORE! Thank you!

  • @TH-bk5hj
    @TH-bk5hj 2 года назад +1

    Hutch is a top notch instructor and drummer. World class

  • @kylebarnett350
    @kylebarnett350 2 года назад

    this is incredible! Thank you!!

  • @bobbysands6923
    @bobbysands6923 Месяц назад +1

    As a drummer--for 55 years--the first place anyone in the band looks for a time issue is the drummer. This is in rock, jazz, any genre. But when playing jazz, I always tried to lock-in with bass player by placing the ride cymbals pattern a nano-second behind the bass player's "walk'. I was taught this is what creates that great swing tension. Been doing that since I learned it and it was a revelation. But I will struggle playing something like Jeep's Blues, which is so behind the beat it is like from last week...:) Great site, great job, great post. Thanks!

  • @paulkennedy4920
    @paulkennedy4920 2 года назад +9

    I need a lot more of these two talking and playing. Pure gold.

  • @chowchichang2922
    @chowchichang2922 2 года назад

    Wow ! Hutchinson on the drums and McBride on the bass !!! Rhythm section Royalty right here !!!

  • @tonyscherr
    @tonyscherr 2 года назад

    This is beautiful!

  • @jungleninja8415
    @jungleninja8415 2 года назад

    What a gem of a drummer one we all one day hope and dream to find like the level of awareness and consideration of this man in music is where its at

  • @gerrycappuccio4186
    @gerrycappuccio4186 8 месяцев назад

    Wonderful information !

  • @fanfancheung3759
    @fanfancheung3759 2 года назад +6

    Such a helpful video! The point is drummer should keep feel, not exactly keep time like a metronome. More kind of this videos please!!

  • @marcelosilveira.guitar
    @marcelosilveira.guitar 2 года назад

    This is the best jazz channel on RUclips. Period.

  • @MG-vo7is
    @MG-vo7is 2 года назад

    This was great. Thank you.

  • @MarcoMalfario
    @MarcoMalfario 2 года назад

    we need more content like this!

  • @dogmart
    @dogmart 2 года назад

    Awesome lesson/video!!!!

  • @TheAnonymou5
    @TheAnonymou5 2 года назад

    Yeah, this good right here. Damn good! Thanks y’all! ❤️🔥✊

  • @tatesherman8273
    @tatesherman8273 2 года назад +34

    I would love to hear Christian talk about the difference between playing with Hutch and playing with Brian

  • @timgreen918
    @timgreen918 2 года назад

    Legendary Episode!

  • @TheTash66
    @TheTash66 2 года назад

    I need more of this!

  • @elambi
    @elambi Год назад

    You guys are great!

  • @Mich2kDrums
    @Mich2kDrums 2 года назад

    What a great video!

  • @daniellucian2993
    @daniellucian2993 Год назад

    A treat to the soul ! Flawless …

  • @jesham7627
    @jesham7627 2 года назад

    Greg has always been a serious and well-rounded force behind the kit not just swing rhythms, but his hip-hop approach played a major part in today's drumming low-key

  • @ryandirkse4374
    @ryandirkse4374 Год назад

    Just gold!!!!

  • @garysmith3173
    @garysmith3173 2 года назад

    Just beautiful.

  • @bassfacekillah
    @bassfacekillah 9 месяцев назад

    This is a delight. Bottom line is there are many different ways to groove between drums and bass (or different rhythm section configurations) the most important thing is to get on the same page with whomever you're playing with; sometimes that means literally talking thru it, and analyzing your groove together. You also have to have an awareness of your own feel in relation to the metronome.

  • @amusicment4829
    @amusicment4829 2 года назад +1

    Great…learned a lot, thank you!

  • @thechangeups
    @thechangeups 2 года назад +5

    two masters!

  • @jamesrichardson3322
    @jamesrichardson3322 Год назад

    Greg Hutchinson I hope do more videos with Christian McBride, because it helps me as a bass player how to play with a drummer. You Christian go through the great duos like Paul Chambers and Philly Jones, and etc.

  • @markop.1994
    @markop.1994 2 года назад

    So what im getting from this... it seems that the bass is more dictating the subdivisions and how much swing there is as opposed to the actual downbeat.
    Great vid by the way! Love the way you guys play.
    I saw a vid recently of a producer talking about the wave forms of drum and bass sounds and how different producer line them up different ways on the millisecond level. Its like wether or not to line up the beginning of the sound or its first volume peak with the other instruments in the mix in relation to the down beat. Either way i think the subtle discrepancies of perfect-imperfect rhythm are super important for all musicians and seldom talked about.
    Great job again!

  • @bobbymiller8739
    @bobbymiller8739 2 года назад

    Excellent!

  • @butacos1388
    @butacos1388 2 года назад

    I am not English native but this video both conversation and music is so interesting to me. It looks n sounds indicating something very much important . Great video!

  • @Jenskiii
    @Jenskiii 6 месяцев назад

    Good combination👍

  • @genez429
    @genez429 19 дней назад

    Whoah! That was nice!

  • @PeterMosley
    @PeterMosley Год назад

    Couldn't possibly love anything more.

  • @ChipTheMusicMan
    @ChipTheMusicMan 2 года назад

    Next level stuff, guys 😄

  • @Sweendog
    @Sweendog 2 года назад

    Such a Gem!

  • @StompL7
    @StompL7 2 года назад

    incredible stuff right here, what a privilege

  • @ciaranocraobhach
    @ciaranocraobhach 2 года назад +3

    "We're not talking about drill music, I'm talking real swing here" - classic.

  • @kennytrezza9930
    @kennytrezza9930 2 года назад

    Guys are awesome !

  • @ronglennproductions5416
    @ronglennproductions5416 2 года назад

    Next level!

  • @oli2768
    @oli2768 2 года назад

    Very interesting topic for a drummer 👍

  • @kentosalazar
    @kentosalazar 2 года назад

    this is beautiful talk

  • @OSCILLATR
    @OSCILLATR 2 года назад

    wonderful!

  • @udomatthiasdrums5322
    @udomatthiasdrums5322 2 года назад

    love it!!

  • @xo_ectophylla_alba_xo
    @xo_ectophylla_alba_xo Год назад

    The point at 4:00 is phenomenal, and important to understand. When the drummer does that rapid walk with the high hats, it makes the bassist accelerate, sometimes to the point where the bass remains awkwardly ahead of the drums, and you end up with 1.5 rhythm sections, instead of exactly 1.0 rhythm section. Philosophically, I believe in having only one rhythm section, but that’s just me, because there’s no way to confuse the soloist. Giving me a fresh breath with crash cymbal, and centering me, is exactly what I want my drummer doing.

  • @srklgk
    @srklgk 2 года назад

    Awesome👏🏻

  • @zachlightcap2179
    @zachlightcap2179 2 года назад

    Has to be the sweetest thing I've heard today.. Maybe ever!! -zl, pno..

  • @xylosforkids5357
    @xylosforkids5357 2 года назад +1

    I can't believe almost 10 min went by that quick! These cats are great to listen too!

  • @harryg6013
    @harryg6013 10 месяцев назад

    So nice and professional! Gregory is even in "Generation S" ❤

  • @PaoloZucchetti
    @PaoloZucchetti 2 года назад

    love it!

  • @tapeexperiments
    @tapeexperiments 4 месяца назад

    Great questions. Hopefully everyone had good time.

  • @pauloluisdemoraespereirape9484
    @pauloluisdemoraespereirape9484 2 года назад

    Sensacional!!!

  • @IsaiahLove777
    @IsaiahLove777 9 месяцев назад

    Great minds

  • @imsum1now
    @imsum1now 2 года назад

    Amazing to be right at genius. What a time.

  • @buhiriko5303
    @buhiriko5303 2 года назад

    Acoustic Sound !!
    The bass, which is not overly electrically amplified, naturally decays the sound produced by the air vibrations inside its wooden body.
    The drums, which are not excessively muted, spread not only the attack sound of hitting head but also the sustaining sound into the space.
    Many drummers these days play with large drum sets with an excessive number of tom-toms, but for me, this simple 3-piece set is just enough and there is nothing short of it.