I have experienced several traumatic situations in my life. I am formally educated with a masters in counseling. I just never went ahead to practice. My autonomic nervous system has been activated by an allergic response to my breast implants. Even after removal I continue to be activated by infection or heavy stress. It’s seen as chronic fatigue or dysautonomia. I believe my only route to truly heal is to train my somatic experiencing skills. Thank you for this brilliant conversation.
I stumbled across this video after searching "misattunement" and... honestly, this is the most validating content i have ever come across. I have had ocd, depression and anxiety for most of my life despite having suffered no specific large trauma as a kid and my parents being loving. I'd sometimes have the thought that I'm being right stupid and I have nothing to really worry about and yet I was in constant emotional distress growing up. It was down to ocd mostly, just my own thoughts, nothing external, and i felt bad sometimes for not having anything to blame it on or that would simply explain why I felt the way i felt. Nowadays I'm just tired, like kind of drained, feeling like there's not much life left in me even though I'm only in my mid twenties. This validates the way I feel so much. I don't know the what and the why, somehow I am the way I am and it is worth healing.
There are still tigers! I was hiking through the mountains of North Idaho a few years ago when, in a moment of appreciating the wilderness around me, I turned around and made eye contact with a full grown cougar crouched about 20 ft behind me. And let me tell ya'll, I am not a person who fears death- but I learned some things about my body's deepest instincts that day 😅
There is also the Fawn response, very common in interpersonal trauma and Complex PTSD. The Fawn response is the effort to appease the abuser so that we, the victim, survives. It is also related to Captive Bonding which is as old as humanity, finding a way to survive under the violence of another.
Thank you for posting this. I never heard of this, but experienced it and thought I was odd for "accepting the abuse" because that was what others perceived.
@@b.alyssaacklin2274 you’re welcome, and it sounds like you were doing your best to survive. I’m glad you’re taking steps to expand your knowledge and perspective. It can be hard to advocate for ourselves.
We can't forget that education philosophies that many systems are founded on are based on making individuals best to serve society vs for their own good
At 14:31 mins I was balling my eyes out. Into the discussion and I had "truma" not associated from family or close friends. I don't what it is, but something about what you said legit triggered a couple of memories when I was 2 or younger. I was too little to talk. I have always been afraid of men and mustaches. Used to never look ppl in the eye and was afraid of everything and everyone except ppl who were good to kids. It has taken me years as an adult to meet ppl in the eyes and not be afraid. Having kids helped, but I never knew why or the true depth of this til now. My tigers or activations have been occurring little by little and then bam this just set me off. I also, suffered from the trauma of having "cancer" having a crazy brain tumor in my (brain stem) that I survived and am here to tell the tale. No one survives unless you get the "chance" to do what I did even then it's still hard to survive. I am almost wondering was my cancer linked to my childhood trauma of when I was two? I was seriously looking for something else and this gave me something different that I didn't or wasn't expecting. -I guess the body heals in all kinds of ways when a person is finally ready to let go. I am gonna have to re-watch and keep processing just to digest as suggested. Ty u for sharing. If you have endured true trauma, no matter what it is and how deep it goes or if it's seemly more simplistic like breaking an arm bc of a fall from roller skating or as breaking an arm from physical abuse that is an example. This did help! Mine is not from these things as much as something else . Wishing anyone reviewing this the best. Ty for sharing and slowly allowing ppl to get to root causes to what they need to heal themselves. -I still have a journey ahead, but this was definitely eye opening.
Thank you for this!! The past few days all I've wanted to do is rest and it can be such a struggle not to feel lazy or guilty for it. But I know it's part of the process and I'm thankful I'm learning to listen to my body and give it what it needs.
I loved this👏🏼 Thanks for including pre-verbal trauma and the somatic experiences with that, ect. I’m adopted and I didn’t realize that being separated from my original mother affected my nervous system so much until a few years ago.. Thank you both 🤍
I can’t believe how Irene spelled it out to perfection about the incubator and panic attacks in the subway when it stops in the middle. I was also premature due to parental violence and lived in an incubator... years and years later I feel like fainting when the subway stops and I can’t run away or escape... so crippling
It's a pity no one acknowledges the impact of all the escalating freq-uencies that can alter moods. Plenty of patents on this. Much of our anxiety is likely just induced by e m f s / r f. 4:04 some of us actually ARE basically in that savannah type environment, when we're being hunted by the flying monkeys of the top narcissistic (covert) abusers. But because it's covert abuse few people see it, or realise the extent of it.
From everything I’ve listen to from Irene and others yes that is a possibility root causes are unique to individuals. and yes healing is possible if you do the work what ever that is for you. Keep educating yourself. I’ve found much relief for my self with doing somatic and nervous system work. It takes time and consistency. you are worth it.
This is deep. I can't image if a pregnant women in the middle of a war zone or domestic violence 😔 the poor unborn child would definitely have some infitro trauma 😢.
FYI: I wrote this post your presentation. You are not the professional I speak of- medical field of self appointed mental giants. Wired Brain on fire fueled by old programs Highly Wired, insomnia, long haul fatigue It didn’t just start It’s been my operating mode From childhood Only at 3 did I think life was sweet. I’m sooooo tired. I want my microscopic cellular world to be freed. I’m exhausted from nagging fear I’m exhausted from faking happiness There’s no payload to dancing as fast as I can. Running as fast as I can worked when I was younger Worked as a single parent. But my twilight years Are cheated on energy Robbed of peace in my heart Palpitations Fluttering indignations Times I just can’t find the air to fill my lungs and safely breathe. Puffer, steroids bring little relief There is no life puffer to clear airways parental abuse groomed with precision stealth ease. Shut up moronic statements From professional, family or friends: “The past is the past, time to grow up and put those PTS memories to bed at last” “Focus on your new life , be grateful, rejoice ask the invisible Jesus he’ll transform your life … Bullshit to that rhetoric choice. Bullshit to Jesus, I knocked on his door, I’ve cried out his name, invisible Jesus offered silence, no answers, no water into wine obedient Christian is essential to a fair shame of mine. Past migrates through every living cell within, it’s not just memories to flitter away, It’s an alternate universe in my body No ends No begins Circular migration like wave sets, Ebb and flow. Good days bad days fueled by insomnia, over eating, over spending. Living toilet flush by flush. Death will be be when it ends at last. What are you crazy? Don’t you think my high intellect would stop this nightmare of bodily functions out of control. Who crowned you bystanders lacking abuse in your soul to think you have answers to my life you haven’t lived? Shut up, you arrogant self appointed blanket answers to my life you will never know.
Ugh I was not expecting the first 20 minutes to already be so triggering. I have ptsd from watching my baby suffer and die in the nicu, so hearing about how scary the isolate is for them, and talking about babies feeling pain was too much.
I have experienced several traumatic situations in my life. I am formally educated with a masters in counseling. I just never went ahead to practice. My autonomic nervous system has been activated by an allergic response to my breast implants. Even after removal I continue to be activated by infection or heavy stress. It’s seen as chronic fatigue or dysautonomia. I believe my only route to truly heal is to train my somatic experiencing skills. Thank you for this brilliant conversation.
I stumbled across this video after searching "misattunement" and... honestly, this is the most validating content i have ever come across. I have had ocd, depression and anxiety for most of my life despite having suffered no specific large trauma as a kid and my parents being loving. I'd sometimes have the thought that I'm being right stupid and I have nothing to really worry about and yet I was in constant emotional distress growing up. It was down to ocd mostly, just my own thoughts, nothing external, and i felt bad sometimes for not having anything to blame it on or that would simply explain why I felt the way i felt. Nowadays I'm just tired, like kind of drained, feeling like there's not much life left in me even though I'm only in my mid twenties. This validates the way I feel so much. I don't know the what and the why, somehow I am the way I am and it is worth healing.
It's probably due to in-womb trauma, like the death of a twin...so you won't consciously remember that event.
Listen to ur body and follow it to heal
@@khansherani yes 🤍🤍 your own body knows the way
There are still tigers! I was hiking through the mountains of North Idaho a few years ago when, in a moment of appreciating the wilderness around me, I turned around and made eye contact with a full grown cougar crouched about 20 ft behind me. And let me tell ya'll, I am not a person who fears death- but I learned some things about my body's deepest instincts that day 😅
There is also the Fawn response, very common in interpersonal trauma and Complex PTSD. The Fawn response is the effort to appease the abuser so that we, the victim, survives. It is also related to Captive Bonding which is as old as humanity, finding a way to survive under the violence of another.
Thank you for posting this. I never heard of this, but experienced it and thought I was odd for "accepting the abuse" because that was what others perceived.
@@b.alyssaacklin2274 you’re welcome, and it sounds like you were doing your best to survive. I’m glad you’re taking steps to expand your knowledge and perspective. It can be hard to advocate for ourselves.
We can't forget that education philosophies that many systems are founded on are based on making individuals best to serve society vs for their own good
At 14:31 mins I was balling my eyes out. Into the discussion and I had "truma" not associated from family or close friends.
I don't what it is, but something about what you said legit triggered a couple of memories when I was 2 or younger. I was too little to talk. I have always been afraid of men and mustaches. Used to never look ppl in the eye and was afraid of everything and everyone except ppl who were good to kids.
It has taken me years as an adult to meet ppl in the eyes and not be afraid. Having kids helped, but I never knew why or the true depth of this til now.
My tigers or activations have been occurring little by little and then bam this just set me off.
I also, suffered from the trauma of having "cancer" having a crazy brain tumor in my (brain stem) that I survived and am here to tell the tale.
No one survives unless you get the "chance" to do what I did even then it's still hard to survive.
I am almost wondering was my cancer linked to my childhood trauma of when I was two?
I was seriously looking for something else and this gave me something different that I didn't or wasn't expecting.
-I guess the body heals in all kinds of ways when a person is finally ready to let go.
I am gonna have to re-watch and keep processing just to digest as suggested.
Ty u for sharing.
If you have endured true trauma, no matter what it is and how deep it goes or if it's seemly more simplistic like breaking an arm bc of a fall from roller skating or as breaking an arm from physical abuse that is an example. This did help! Mine is not from these things as much as something else . Wishing anyone reviewing this the best. Ty for sharing and slowly allowing ppl to get to root causes to what they need to heal themselves.
-I still have a journey ahead, but this was definitely eye opening.
Thank you for this!! The past few days all I've wanted to do is rest and it can be such a struggle not to feel lazy or guilty for it. But I know it's part of the process and I'm thankful I'm learning to listen to my body and give it what it needs.
Ohmygaaadddd I am SO EXCITED that you did an episode with Irene! Her work has absolutely changed my life. Thank you for doing this.
how so?
Same here! Love Irene and doing her courses has been life changing - and I'm only on my first year of SBSM :)
I loved this👏🏼
Thanks for including pre-verbal trauma and the somatic experiences with that, ect. I’m adopted and I didn’t realize that being separated from my original mother affected my nervous system so much until a few years ago.. Thank you both 🤍
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Always forward, never ever backward!!
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Thank you Queens for this amazing moment! Healing and prosperity was strongly felt during this video. Many blessings and boons to all!
Absolutely the most useful video on this topic I've come across. Thank you.
Sheleena this is a top quality RUclips channel with only the best guests in the field! Amazing!
I can’t believe how Irene spelled it out to perfection about the incubator and panic attacks in the subway when it stops in the middle. I was also premature due to parental violence and lived in an incubator... years and years later I feel like fainting when the subway stops and I can’t run away or escape... so crippling
Thank you very much for this conversation.
It's as simple as this I can't stop drinking alcohol now. I feel powerless to addiction and wish I could stop it.
Great episode! Thank you both! 🙏🙏
I felt extremely terrified and stopped being able to talk during a panic attack I couldn't stop sweating and it took a month before I felt OK.
thank you so much for this discussion, so essential information to share!
Hi Shay!
Could you please write or have conversations around family estrangement specifically choosing to do because of the toxic cycles?
Great interview, thanks for sharing!
It's a pity no one acknowledges the impact of all the escalating freq-uencies that can alter moods. Plenty of patents on this. Much of our anxiety is likely just induced by e m f s / r f.
4:04 some of us actually ARE basically in that savannah type environment, when we're being hunted by the flying monkeys of the top narcissistic (covert) abusers. But because it's covert abuse few people see it, or realise the extent of it.
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I Love this channel so much!
Wow! This was a great interview ✨💪🦋🦋
Serious question! Can suppressed emotions and trauma cause fibromyalgia symptoms? Can this be reversed?
From everything I’ve listen to from Irene and others yes that is a possibility root causes are unique to individuals. and yes healing is possible if you do the work what ever that is for you. Keep educating yourself. I’ve found much relief for my self with doing somatic and nervous system work. It takes time and consistency. you are worth it.
Yes
Thanks for this👍👍
This is deep. I can't image if a pregnant women in the middle of a war zone or domestic violence 😔 the poor unborn child would definitely have some infitro trauma 😢.
FYI: I wrote this post your presentation. You are not the professional I speak of- medical field of self appointed mental giants. Wired
Brain on fire fueled by old programs
Highly Wired,
insomnia, long haul fatigue
It didn’t just start
It’s been my operating mode
From childhood
Only at 3 did I think life was sweet.
I’m sooooo tired.
I want my microscopic cellular world to be freed.
I’m exhausted from nagging fear
I’m exhausted from faking happiness
There’s no payload to dancing as fast as I can.
Running as fast as I can worked when I was younger
Worked as a single parent.
But my twilight years
Are cheated on energy
Robbed of peace in my heart
Palpitations
Fluttering indignations
Times I just can’t find the air to fill my lungs and safely breathe.
Puffer, steroids bring little relief
There is no life puffer to clear airways parental abuse groomed with precision stealth ease.
Shut up moronic statements
From professional, family or friends:
“The past is the past, time to grow up and put those PTS memories to bed at last”
“Focus on your new life , be grateful, rejoice ask the invisible Jesus he’ll transform your life …
Bullshit to that rhetoric choice.
Bullshit to Jesus,
I knocked on his door, I’ve cried out his name,
invisible Jesus offered silence, no answers,
no water into wine
obedient Christian is essential to a fair shame of mine.
Past migrates through every living cell within, it’s not just memories to flitter away,
It’s an alternate universe in my body
No ends
No begins
Circular migration like wave sets,
Ebb and flow. Good days bad days fueled by insomnia, over eating, over spending. Living toilet flush by flush.
Death will be be when it ends at last.
What are you crazy? Don’t you think my high intellect would stop this nightmare of bodily functions out of control.
Who crowned you bystanders lacking abuse in your soul to think you have answers to my life
you haven’t lived?
Shut up, you arrogant self appointed blanket answers to my life you will never know.
I think I had a pretty good childhood but starting school made me so anxious and traumatised.
🙏🏻💕
Was there a chance that your little friend was in shock as well?
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=Healings 2022=
= Me & My biologic mom =
Ugh I was not expecting the first 20 minutes to already be so triggering. I have ptsd from watching my baby suffer and die in the nicu, so hearing about how scary the isolate is for them, and talking about babies feeling pain was too much.