These are the 16ah cells used in the condor/metro bus. They’re actually rated for quite a bit more current than the 25ah cells the same size that the seller probably thought they had. Most of these sub packs are 12s2p regardless of which cells were used, but they are modular and bolt together. If you wanted to get a higher voltage you would have to ditch or modify the white metal case it came in, but you can just bolt in more cell groups for whatever series connection/voltage you want.
I was able to modify the controller to accept a lower voltage before cutting out. The bms I added takes care of the high low voltage cutoffs now. It still is not a 2.2kw pack as advertised with the 12s2p config it's in. I bought it for the metal case. It works for my use and how I use it. If I could buy more I would but for no more than 200$ because I can build bigger packs at that price point.
Right on. Yeah, being the 16ah cells it would only be the 1.4kwh pack(16ahx2x44.4v nominal). Honestly though, the ones like you have are harder to find. I’d trade you a new 2.2kwh with the 25ah cells for your 1.4 with the 16ah cells of you were close. With what those cells in yours are rated for, you can pull 500amps from that module for 10 seconds and still be complying with the cell ratings.
@@JakeGlore-eu1ci I have the datasheet on this pack. Yes they are very impressive for how much they can deliver. I want to say it said it could sustain 300+ amps for 2-4 seconds. The way I use it I am pulling 2-3 amps only per hour, occasionally I'll run it up to 10a for a min or so. Right now I get 12-16 hours of use with a 4 hour charge time. So it works, works so well I have put my gas kicker motor up for sale.
50Ah 12s2p49.2v is the nominal voltage stated. you can charge the pack to 4.2 per cell 50.4v with no effects the 4.1v is for longevity. i want it now. 300 cycles now no issues. using with ebike 1000w hub motor this battery is sweet. outlasted my original battery pack with increased range.
@@ISeeDeadGamers I will say I does what I need. The metal case is heavy and overkill. The BMS is doing a good job of managing over and under voltage for me. I'm using a 50v power supply to charge at 10a takes a good 4 hours from 35v to 49v
I did not. Was conformal Coated really well. Trying to remove it would have destroyed it. I used a 12s lipo bms wires to a header that went into existing ribbon. Works great, pinned out the cells bms is 32v-49.5 range I get 1.5kw out of it. I'd buy another
@@terminalrecluse don't know yet. I am testing in tank. It is a trolling motor first. Trolling guessing initially it will run for 5-6 hours at 1-2 mph Medium speed it will run for 90 min on a smaller boat expect it to run 12-15mph for 1 hour. Battery capacity dictates everything. I can charge battery up in 3-4 hours.
i took apart the large enerdel 400v battery modules that weigh 370 pounds they have 4 module packs with each pack containing 2 of these 12s packs the battery is 50% SOC & has 44v, 49.2 v is fully charged. Cell Configuration:12s2p Max Voltage: 49.2V Nom Voltage: 43.2V Min Voltage: 30V Cell Voltage spec: - Max: 4.1V - Nom: 3.6V - Min: 2.5V
These are the 16ah cells used in the condor/metro bus. They’re actually rated for quite a bit more current than the 25ah cells the same size that the seller probably thought they had. Most of these sub packs are 12s2p regardless of which cells were used, but they are modular and bolt together. If you wanted to get a higher voltage you would have to ditch or modify the white metal case it came in, but you can just bolt in more cell groups for whatever series connection/voltage you want.
I was able to modify the controller to accept a lower voltage before cutting out. The bms I added takes care of the high low voltage cutoffs now. It still is not a 2.2kw pack as advertised with the 12s2p config it's in. I bought it for the metal case. It works for my use and how I use it. If I could buy more I would but for no more than 200$ because I can build bigger packs at that price point.
Right on. Yeah, being the 16ah cells it would only be the 1.4kwh pack(16ahx2x44.4v nominal). Honestly though, the ones like you have are harder to find. I’d trade you a new 2.2kwh with the 25ah cells for your 1.4 with the 16ah cells of you were close. With what those cells in yours are rated for, you can pull 500amps from that module for 10 seconds and still be complying with the cell ratings.
@@JakeGlore-eu1ci I have the datasheet on this pack. Yes they are very impressive for how much they can deliver. I want to say it said it could sustain 300+ amps for 2-4 seconds.
The way I use it I am pulling 2-3 amps only per hour, occasionally I'll run it up to 10a for a min or so. Right now I get 12-16 hours of use with a 4 hour charge time.
So it works, works so well I have put my gas kicker motor up for sale.
50Ah 12s2p49.2v is the nominal voltage stated. you can charge the pack to 4.2 per cell 50.4v with no effects the 4.1v is for longevity. i want it now. 300 cycles now no issues. using with ebike 1000w hub motor this battery is sweet. outlasted my original battery pack with increased range.
@@ISeeDeadGamers I will say I does what I need. The metal case is heavy and overkill. The BMS is doing a good job of managing over and under voltage for me. I'm using a 50v power supply to charge at 10a takes a good 4 hours from 35v to 49v
Omie, thanks for the video. You mentioned that Enerdel doesn't make the balance board. Do you happen to know who actually makes it?
I did not. Was conformal Coated really well. Trying to remove it would have destroyed it. I used a 12s lipo bms wires to a header that went into existing ribbon. Works great, pinned out the cells bms is 32v-49.5 range I get 1.5kw out of it. I'd buy another
marty cooking up a new powersupply for the racks BatChest watch out xqc!
How much did you pay?
I have 100$ in battery and 200$ in motor and wiring. The old motor I was given free as it was dead
@@omieyouknowme how far can you get on the battery with the motor in a boat? Is it measured in runtime hours or distance?
@@terminalrecluse don't know yet. I am testing in tank. It is a trolling motor first.
Trolling guessing initially it will run for 5-6 hours at 1-2 mph
Medium speed it will run for 90 min on a smaller boat expect it to run 12-15mph for 1 hour. Battery capacity dictates everything. I can charge battery up in 3-4 hours.
Too many locations to get electrocuted my man haha
I am safer playing with electricity than walking thru downtown Denver or any Metro area.
i took apart the large enerdel 400v battery modules that weigh 370 pounds they have 4 module packs with each pack containing 2 of these 12s packs the battery is 50% SOC & has 44v, 49.2 v is fully charged.
Cell Configuration:12s2p
Max Voltage: 49.2V
Nom Voltage: 43.2V
Min Voltage: 30V
Cell Voltage spec:
- Max: 4.1V
- Nom: 3.6V
- Min: 2.5V
Yo Omie first comment haha I win