Wildlife Biologist Explains Australia's Mysterious Monster [Bunyip]
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
- The bunyip is Australia's mysterious amphibian monster, which lurks in swamps and billabongs. Wildlife biologist, Forrest Galante, explains what he thinks the bunyip might actually be.
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I really respect Forrest because he doesn't discount cryptids and instead tries to use the scientific method to figure out what they are while most "scientists" call cryptids BS and write them off as conspiracy theories instead of investigating.
Cryptids are BS , This fraud doesn't discount them because he's found a way to make money out of simpletons like , apparently , yourself
The most dangerous species in Australia are politicians😂
I definitely agree. I can see that because I am an Australian.
Aint that the case everwhere in every country
Facts 👌
The Murdoch is strong with them.
Peter Dutton = Potato Head 😂
Palorchestes. The bunyip is sightings of a remnant population of the marsupial sloth. It had a proboscis, and was omnivorous. Some true sloths even became aquatic and were thought to eat a large variety of aquatic plants and some fish.
Whut
Palorchestes was a marsupial, more akin to wombats, kangaroos and koalas than sloths
Possibly, although it's more likely to be based off the Diprotodon.
Google carnifex
I am assuming it is a very rare and extremely "fast" Sloth? 🤣😆
I highly doubt the bunyip is based off thylacoleo, as thylacoleo was very terrestrial and not aquatic at all. Plus there are still sighting of supposed thylacoleos in australia, and aboriginals have different names for them rather than whatever a bunyip may be. I think it might be a leopard seal.
And leopard seals are vicious!
It's most probably based off Diprotodons. To be fair, Bunyip is only the name of one Aboriginal nation, from Victoria I believe. Other Aboriginal nations, who have different languages, wouldn't have called them by that name.
How do we know it didn’t eat say salmon from rivers like bears maybe nocturnal too.
@@garymaidman625You know your Aboriginal lore... Diprotodon is probably a good candidate, especially when you consider the Wurundjeri people would tell stories of them hanging out in the marshy swamps (where fossils had been discovered later) and that in order to escape one the best course of action was to climb a tree as they couldn't look up.
Obviously in today's day, you're going to hear a hundred different versions of that, but that seemed to be a pretty consistent idea of this mythical beast that the first settlers had described to them and so much of Victoria was made up of land that was perfect "Bunyip territory" if you will. Kinda makes sense.
People like to say they were probably not dangerous to humans, but that sounds ridiculous to me. Have you ever come across a grumpy wombat before? Scale that up to the size of a hippopotamus and take into account the fact that it would get hunted by the indigenous people and it would be very dangerous to people if it felt it needed to be.
@@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 I know a bit of Aboriginal lore as I am from NSW and have a bachelor's in archaeology. I have worked with quite a number of indigenous people and always ask them about their lore. For instance seeing or hearing a kookaburra isn't an indication that rain is going to be coming, it's an indication home is near. Seeing black cockatoos flying is actually the indication that rain is coming.
He need to do one on the ape man in Laos. My people call it Mob Hlub or as what you folks know it as Sasquatch. Legend has it that it’s really fast on flat grounds but if you run up hill it won’t be able to catch you, it has long hair, taller than the average villagers, walks like it has no knee caps, and it knows how to make a fire, create a shelter, and bury its dead. If it catches you on a full moon it’ll eat you.
The bunyip is almost certainly one of if not all of the diprotodontids.
Its anything BUT a thylacoleo.
All of them? Kangaroos are diprotodontids
@@thebotanarium Kangaroos are diprotodonts
Love this channel because all 3 guys have incredible knowledge
That's awesome! I've heard it around growing up but had no idea what it looked like
what a bunyip?
Thylacoleo were arboreal and weren't aquatic in the slightest.
My theory for this is the Thyla used to pounce from trees into or near water to attck aboriginal people that were collecting water and they assumed that it lept from the water.
It only has to happen once or twice
Thylacoleo was a genus rather than a single species. We know of 3 from the fossil record.
@@chrisbrent7487 Fair, its still possible though
@@Jibb3rs There is also a lot of debate about whether they were arboreal, ambush predators and even whether they were hunting carnivores or scavengers filling the role that Hyenas do.
@@chrisbrent7487 They were practically the biggest thing around, they wouldnt need to scavenge.
@@Jibb3rs They also had very short legs so they definitely were not running down prey. Some say they were probably scavengers. T. carniflex was smaller than the other two species that came a long time before it. There were a lot of very big marsupials. Much larger herbivores than them existed. The other argument was that it was an ambush predator and relied on sneaking up on and pouncing on prey as they just aren't built for running fast over distance.
Thylacoleo had several different types of varying sizes, they were most like a leopard, a ambush predator, some think the cryptid legend of the drop bear that dropped out of trees onto prey was a smaller variety of Thylacoleo. No evidence of a aquatic version but who knows, it was a relative of the wombat that went carnivore, there was also a bison sized wombat, maybe a type of those were hippo like and just as mean.
What if it was like a jaguar
Quinkana would be one of better picks, it’s a Giant terrestrial (maybe amphibious) crocodile of Australia that went extinct wile humans where probably still there.
It was probably based on Diprotodons.
I remember we had an indigenous guy come to school and he told us the bunyip only ate kids and it was scared of parents. Basically a way to stop us from going swimming without supervision. The rivers were so muddy and strong that it wasn't uncommon for kids to drown and never be found again, so even thought you knew it was just a story it was always in the back of your mind when you went for a swim...
The bunyip is a wombat a extinct cousin went bones with dug up and they were shown to aboriginals. They said yep this is the Bunyip
Bunyip is most likely based on diprotodon or some kind of croc, like Quinkana.
Yea coz crocs are hairy
@@mysty0 mythical animals can be a based of a lot of things, I mean, how can anyone explain what many other creatures are based on with just a Single animal? Like griffins, Ahuizotl and windigos to name a few.
Still, behind many creatures, there’s mostly always a „Main inspiration“ for it
@@thelittleal1212 yea like Miinotaurs because the Queen had sex with the sacred bull! Or Mermaids because Sailors had sex with seals! The nightmares of Men are where your Mythical Creatires are born and that's why they are Mythical
Legendary Creatires on the other hand are based on something. Folk Lore preserves their tale
BtW I am Indigenous Australian and another name for Bunyip is The Hairy Man aka Sasquatch or Bigfoot in other regions of the world. The closest anyone comes to explaining it is the documentary here on RUclips called The Missing 411. They are not Giant Apes, they are large hairy men!
The name Bunyip comes from the language of an Aboriginal nation in Victoria, where there would not have been any crocodiles. Diprotodon is the most likely animal.
The Bunyip is actually like an anti santa claus. The idea is to keep kids away from rapids and billabongs without a parent around, and also, the Bunyip hunt primarily at night. Indigenous knowleage ;) Spirit animal. Much love from oz!
Sounds cool!
Made my Tuesday
Which episode is the one where they talk about the "short video" talking about coyotes turning into wolves?
Also great channel.
The only bunyip in Australia is or was at the big banana in coffs harbour
Haha yes, on the monorail ride thingy
Bananyip
I'm from Bengal ( where Bengal tigers come form) . A famous Bengali writer wrote a novel where Bunyip was mentioned.I finished the book in 6 hours in my 4th grade. Ohh the nostalgia 😢
I think it was Quinkana, since it had long legs and the jaws of a croc and was also semi terrestrial and semi aquatic.
Thank you
0:12 Hi time traveler from 1997 here… The internet has WORMHOLES NOW???
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen one toward the nuke plant in Oswego, New York!
Hey, Wild Times boys.
The creature at 3:50 was a cryptid from a bengali (later movie adaptation) from the classic bengali novel "Chander pahar" ( Translation : Mountains of the Moon).
It's a story set in Africa about a hunt for some unique/mythical gemstones but that's not really the main point, it essentially revolves around the adventures of a newbie wildlife enthusiast from India, fascinated with the African wilderness.
It's been a while since i read it but i think it's the immaculate details about traversing the untamed wilds which is the main draw while there's a cryptid lurking.
I'm pretty sure there's an English adaptation of the book or you can watch the movie with subs but it'd be right up Forrest's alley.
I’ll plan a whole dance routine if I get to go bow fishing
Even a town called bunyip
I play lots of ark and thylacoleo was my favorite for a long time. I love their molar teeth, they are like 2 teeth connected into a molar canine tooth pretty sick looking
I think the drop bear was inspired by the Thylacoleo and the bunyip was inspired by the diprotodon
I have lived in the middle of nowhere Australia my whole life while I’m only 19 iv seen some scary and weird shit out here doesn’t help this place once had aboriginals hundreds of years ago with cave paintings of weird shit
We also turned the bunyip into a kids show. Look up 'Alexander Bunyip' one of the weirdest kids characters ever ;)
Bunyip has 8 foot long back legs that are hoofed and a foot like an elephant with short front legs and is the size of a hippo and a thigh of a hippo in shape . Never seen its head as I had to run before it launched out of the water at me. Yowies are real aswell and a few others.
Bunyips really exist, I have personally had encountered 3 different types, these are real undiscovered creatures, you can find them in and around the Bremer River in Ipswich Queensland between midnight and 4am in the morning, use a green torch for the big black dog looking type, and for the other two types a white light
lol
@@ChimeraWingz wasn't kidding, scariest thing I have ever seen
After they bring back the marsupial lion, can we bring back that Malagasy drawf hippo he found bones of that one time?? I need 3 of those in my backyard yesterday.
In Tasmania, there used to be a Tasmanian Tiger
The "Bunyip song" from "Dot and the Kangaroo" gave me nightmares as a kid.
There are people who believe they still exist, along with yowies and other cryptids. There used to be a LOT of giant marsupials and reptiles that went extinct after the first people showed up.
Bro, same. Dot and the Kangaroo was some straight up demonic shit.
Thylacoleo:0 Humans:1. Who’s the scarier monster?
Pretty good guess Forrest and it was a beast for sure , it's jaws and front limbs were crazy powerful and believed to ambush .
Very likely not thylacoleo as they were not aquatic at all.
@@mdpriest8550 Don't need to be , cats today hunt around water holes and they swim, drink.
I think diprotodon is a closer match to the bunyip disruption
Interesting take.
One time at school, We all had to do an assignment on myths and legends etc. The whole classroom did greek gods, I did the bunyip...Lets just say...My first stand up gig. Classroom loved it
There's an awesome diary of an escaped convict who ended up being the only white man on mainland for 35 years! He lived with aboriginals, and mentioned bunyip a a few times that he'd seen.
It's in the name bunyip, in english it's evil spirit.
It's impossible to see them in physical world.
In the 1950s, my father and his family were all sitting at the table having lunch in the kitchen but his sister was outside playing near a swamp.
Then they heard her screaming they thought she was just playing untill the screams got further and further away so they quickly got up, and ran to where the screams were coming from.
When they got there she was being dragged into the swamp by something that they couldn't see so
as she was getting dragged into the swamp by nothing😅
my grandfather pulled her out just in time.
They asked her what happened? she replied
I was being dragged by something that she couldn't see.
That was seventy years ago in New Zealand in the north island and also New Zealand broke off of Australia long ago due to tectonic plates.
Look in terms of spirituality.
-someone
My Theory is the Visual and most likely perception of the Bunyip was likely thought up years after actual incidents of Children going missing while in the Waters of the Murray River which is where it is said to of lived. I believe over years of children going missing after swimming in the river etc they came up with images / drawings of what they thought it could look like But to me the Logical explanation of Children disappearing while swimming in the River is more likely to be From being taken by Very Large Murray Cod which are well know for eating large birds on the surface among other things. If one was to have a go at a small child swimming and managed to get the child by the Leg and swallowed past it's Gill rakers which have small Teeth facing one direction which is to hold on to prey and only allow it to go one way which is down and into it's stomach they can find it hard to dislodge the child's foot. A large 100 pound Cod would have no problems & very capable in dragging a small 3-5 year old child under water to it's Snag where it hides waiting to ambush prey, therefore the Child simply drowns and is underwater nowhere to be seen as the water is quite murky at depth. I thoroughly believe this is where the Child eating Bunyip stories came from.
If memory serves me correctly don't the American Eskimos have a "mythical" creature very similar to this? I think the English conversion is "Otter Man"...
I love the Aussie stuff more yowie next
First we need to clarify what we are talking about. Bunyip has become a generic term for any dangerous creature described by Aborigines that has not been scientifically identified. Australia is quite big, Aborigines have been here a very long time. Different tribes in different parts of the continent would have experienced a range of megafauna now considered extinct and no doubt that would be part of their lore handed down, especially if remnant populations survived in environmental niches. So the word Bunyip has generalised to cover many different creatures
In the South Gippsland region of Victoria there is a town called Bunyip and a town called Tooradin which has the same meaning. Bunyip is on the northern edge of the old Koo Wee Rup Swamp, Tooradin on the southern edge. The Koo Wee Rup Swamp, before it was drained for agriculture covered about 400 sq km. Descriptions of the Bunyip from the Boonwurrong people are that it lived in deep water holes in the Koo Wee Rup Swamp and dragged people into the depths. There is a sketch of a Bunyip by an Aboriginal man that looks in profile more or less like a legless emu in the proportions of body and neck. It would have to have been quite large to drag adults down and consume them. I think the sketch is in William Thomas' diary. The Koo Wee Rup Swamp would have been the perfect environment for a remnant population of such a creature to survive while not being known beyond that environment. The Koo Wee Rup Swamp was never really explored by settlers, it appears on early maps with descriptions like 'impassable morass'. Once drained the peat soils dried and much was burnt, so unlikely to find any fossils
I have heard from someone I believed that they witnessed a Yowie/Bigfoot type creature in southern NSW. They were camping with others, heard loud noises and saw a very large heavy set creature walking upright. It hung around for a while but didn't get too close, she presumed it was because of the campfire and they all stayed by the fire all night, terrified
I think that there is a continent (plus Tassie) full of plausible remnants of megafauna/species unknown to science. Calling them all Bunyip leads to confusion, I think Bunyip specifically refers to aquatic ambush predators from Victoria, other places have other creatures, all are worthy of enquiry and study imo
Forest should give a tip to bio life sciences or whatever to bring back the Thylacoleo gotta be one the top ten most interesting extinct species
Should check out feather foot easily the scariest one lol
I always thought the Bunyip was a small population of lone hairy hippo. Like a ancient hippo.
There is a pretty good movie about it called Devil Beneath
The ABC in Australia captured a Bunyip and kept in captivity from 1978 to 1988.
It was trained for tv and the show was Alexander Bunyip's Billabong.
I have no idea where they released to, but hopefully it still roams free
There doesn't appear to be any records to back up what you are saying. Surely the ABC would have some footage? When I googled the TV show it shows a man in a pink outfit pretending to be the mythical creature.
Too good.
@@almac9203 yep thats the Bunyip, thats how they lure you in, unless you train them, which the ABC did 😉
😂😂😂
Hey, I'm from aus and the bunyip is a ancestor of what is know the modern fur seal, this is due to the geology of the bass straight 35,000 years ago prior to the land bridge flooding, most anthropologists and entomologist are in belife that due to this movement the ancestor of the fur seal was able to travel inland and the climate was much colder because it was still during the ice age....I'm no expert I just happen to work closely with these people
Everyone calls it the marsupial lion, but I feel like it has more of a resemblance to a leopard.
Correct, its habits based on its physical aspects, were likely almost identical to a Leopard....
No mentions of the Yowie?
If younger me came across this video he would have been very confused cause he thought that bunyips were the Australian big foot so a giant primate as in my local area, I am guessing at least that Europeans have miss labelled the bunyip or something cause everyone I know in this area thinks its the Aussie big foot
Bunyips are general monsterous creatures in aboriginals folk lore. Depending on which aboriginal group you talk to , its described differently.
What are you doing about the thylacine photos ?Did you talk with Nick Mooney? Is anyone is going to the spot? Has Zack sent you the photos with the metabata? Are the locals going to investigate or know anything about it? Are they going to put trailcams in the area and take eDNA of the ponds and rivers in that spot? What are you doing with those photos to check if they are real? Have you talked with Zack´s dad?
That was fake bro
Forest we had pig dog called BUNYIP. He stood high as your bellybutton weighed 55Kg and ran at 45 kilometres per hour most dogs we had swim with their head on the top of the water when he swam his neck was completely out of the water his head a good 1/2 foot above the water. The boys would say BUNYIP BY NAME BUNYIP BY NATURE
I've heard of a Bunion, and they are terrifying. Right at the base of the big toe. 😂😂😂😂😂
😁😁
The Bunyip is an aboriginal dreamtime legend...although I've heard of people out in South Gippsland who claim they saw it way back in the day. I was extremely sceptical of these stories...to me it always sounded like piss talk...
Meanwhile the designers who sketched those cartoons
I've seen one with my dad and uncle
Always thought it was prob a diprotodon species.
Giant wombat with poor eye sight, hippo attitude and liked swamp lands.
G'day Ty.
"Oh you know about this? Yeah, I know it doesn't exist."
I believe the bunyip was a crocodile cause when they say it was powerful enough to pull a bull in the water sounds like a Crocodile cause there's been rare cases of animals like elephant seals, whales and sharks found lost in freshwater rivers.
The Thylacoleo Carnifex is the Mirriyuula a ancient aboriginal word that means DOG Clever but it also means Demon Dog.
The Mirriyuula is the Thylacoleo Carnifex because pre-colonisation there was no aboriginal concept of cats n dogs we had our own terms Mirri=DOG
Buudgie=Cat
Imagine seeing a Huge elephant seals lost in a river you wouldn't know what it is.
The english pronunciation of THYLACOLEO fried my brain. I had no idea what he is talking about till he said marsupial lion. It has literally LEO at the end. Seriously english speakers are clueless how to read latin/greek scientific names.😅 Still respect for the work this guy is doing.
Forrest my man, your knowledge and experience just baffles me sometimes. I already knew about the bunyip, but not Thylacoleo... holy. lol Thank you.
Hes wrong in this case however as bunyips do not fit any of the ecological criteria to be remotely related to thylacoleo. Thylacoleos are not aquatic at all
Play ark bro.
@@mdpriest8550 I imagine that was probably added to the story over time as a fear factor. Kinda like what people have done with other folk lore around the world. Always got to make it a tad scarier. It'll jump out of the water to get yuh. Oh no.
The bane of the Redwoods!
You drink enough Datura, you will see all kinds of things.
I want to believe
Forest and all should look into gary opits work
Bunyip is a Thylacoleo I asked a few blokes to show me a body.
Thylacoleo was not a single species. It was a genus with 3 species that we know of. Thylacoleo carniflex went extinct around 40,000 years ago according to the fossil record. Well after aboriginal settlement. Interestingly the Thylacoleo carniflex type specimen was found in South Western Victoria. The name is originated with aboriginal people who lived in North Western and South Western Victoria. The hypothesis that it originated from oral stories handed down over thousands of years of Thylacoleo sp. probably T. carniflex is quite reasonable really.
what a shame that thing isnt still around
Australia: Nar wear good
A moss cover megalania
A friend seen a Bunyip come out of swamp grab a kangaroo and go back in the water, said it looked back at them while carrying the roo underarm and was big ugly an had a scorpion like tail
In Australia??
Yes in Tenterfield Australia,
I've seen two yowies, my Barney , wappa dam, I've seen a creature that has 3 finger claws and hoove like feet approximately 5ft tall wearing a hooded cloak that had invisibility design, this creature also had telescopic limbs
As an Aussie..
This is major cringe material.
Depending on the region of Australia, a Bunyip can be used to describe many different Australian animals back in the late 1800's .
Yowies * Australian Bigfoot type creatures were also called Bunyip, when they were seen in or around bodies of water such as Billabongs .
So it's just slang or a form of lingo meant to describe animals??
@@JACKAL98
More a catch-all term for a 'Cryptids' particularly if sighted near water.
It ain't a serious discussion until they do a deep dive into drop-bears....
Yowies are different, we have lots up here, and feather foot and min min, bunyip is Victorian and it means evil spirit or devil
As an Australian, we have enough stuff to kill us. We don't need an apex land predator. It's the one thing we avoided, I assume all the snake and spider evolved to kill thay thing! 🇦🇺 #wecomefromthelanddownunder
Bunyip is a native word for bigfoot -fetherfoot- yowie- caditchiman
Personally my money says that this mammal that comes out of the water is a mammal that comes out of the water.
Given how those jaws and faces are drawn it's probably just some dude misidentifying a seal.
🏹🐟!!
I think the bunyip was a leopard seal
Settlers literally shitpants at night to the sounds of devils...
This galante guy is just taking wild shots now and expecting us all to take it seriously
Thylacoleo
What does a bunyop say when he stubs his toe?
Yoweeee
I thought the Bunyip was another tribal name for the Yowie or Sasquatch ? that what we were taught in school lmfao
Give me a break, how many thylocolia come up out of the water at you? More than 40 percent of Australia, an area the size of India, remains untouched by humans, meaning Thylocolia and Bunyip could still exist with the Yowi Big Foot.
I seen thr bunyip at murray bridge forrest you can see it on youtube😭😂
Bunyip = Thylacoleo
Yeti = Uncontacted Denisovans
Unicorn = Elasmotherium
Orang Pendek = Homo floresiensis
It's fascinating how some long some stories survive
No. Bunyip is definitely not based off of thylacoleo. The “drop bears” are the most likely cryptid that fits the thylacoleo’s description
Idk man it’s probably just a kangaroo half submerged in a billabong
Water buffalo
Funny the lion has been spotted also as the tiger
For where my peoples are from it’s a tall big foot animal
1.8 meters is 5.9 feet or you might as well say 6 FEET LONG... Big enough all things considered!
The thylocolio could be a partially aquatic hunter, kangaroos def be drownin foos so we know marsupials ain’t above that kinda thing… tsk tsk tsk drownin a dang dawg…. Smh
I've seen bunnies that's not a bunny
Diprotodont
Australian indigenous folk apparently date back 65,000 years Soooo that means for 50,000 years they lived with megafauna so all the animals were really big and bitey