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While were at it, the Sergeant could use a Rework. Maybe make him an abnormal Corpus who thinks money should be earned through combat and blood. A sort of twisted version of the Corpus doctrine with some Grineer aspects, a mercenary who fights for the highest bidder
@@geoczeoszkar A Corpus Exo suit and Corpus marines now thats cool. The Sergeant could get a new name and became the leader of most of the Corpus military thats why he will have elite units as bodyguards and we have to eliminate him because the Corpus military is getting stronger and could beat the Grineer if left to grow
@@DGEddieDGEtm DE hasn't forgotten it. They're just trying to work through everything else before making their way there. In the pre Tempestarii stream, Steve was asked about Duviri, and he said New War was first. One thing at a time...
The way they went from Deadlock Protocol introducing Parvos, who casually mentioned the "Entrati secrets," to Heart of Deimos introducing us directly to the Entrati, to discovering their secrets by ranking up, learning about Albrecht's journey meeting the Man in the Wall, then leading to Vala Glarios's crew dying and Vala going to the void and being by Parvos' side, has been really terrific to watch. This community wanted more lore and story and, even if it hasn't been coming in a barrage, what has come has been really great. I'm happy DE has meeting that need.
It probably won't tie into the New War Quest, given how it's generally about all factions. There probably will be a Parvos event in the future though, much like all the introductory events for the characters, like The Defectors from Saturn, the Buried Debts, etc.
Any lore that are not focused on the Tenno is always welcome. It feels like the origin system actually does live without the Tenno. Uncovering the lore behind the Corpus is pretty great.
He's just the charismatic leader of a loan shark pyramid scheme... Like... He literally describes how he made his money in his lore fragments and it's just a pyramid scheme. He made money by selling stolen goods, then gave loans and charged interest, and had others do the same, funneling the profits up towards himself.
I really like the guy. Instead of beheading his sworn sisters, I would like to sit down and have tea with the guy. Maybe even invite Ergo Glast and brainstorm on how to take down the Corpus and establish a stable economy in the Origin System.
@@neitherlink6612 I'd hope Glast wouldn't be pulled in by his nonsense. Granum founded the corpus and everything they became is descended from his teachings, which Glast rebelled against. There's no really significant philosophical difference between Granum and any other Corpus. He just doesn't like them because he considers them lazy and complacent. But I mean, for all we know he could just be trying to rationalize a desire for revenge over being betrayed as something more pragmatic.
@@YumLemmingKebabs Ah... I really thought he was like this farmer guy that made a genuinely good faction that gradually got more and more twisted over millenia. Though him being an MLM archetype makes sense with his huge Pyramid-shaped aesthetics.
@@Devilcakes Jesus Christ... I can cut through his BS image like a hot knife through butter but ask me about visual design and I'll stare at you like you're speaking a language I can't even identify, nevermind understand. Somehow the pyramid thing flew totally over my head even though it's sledgehammer levels of unsubtle symbolism. I totally missed that aspect, until you mentioned it just now. Also your response made me notice I had accidentally said Glast had no big ideological difference with the mainline corpus in my previous comment when I meant to say Granum so thanks again.
Another thing i noticed about vala nd how she gave us a representation of Parvos' side of the corpus by not being idle and actually working to advance, unlike Nef Anyo. I love the corpus since not only I like more technological factions in games, movies, comice, shows, etc but the corpus are very interesting and Parvos could and is already making it a bigger threat.
The only reason why I play this game still is for story. The lore and all this setup is so exciting to play and be apart of. Especially when they focus on the operator and the frames or the orokin. I just wish smaller stories like frame releases could come out often.
I respect anyone who just plays for the story. I say it all the time, the day to day grind isn't for everyone, but the story and quests are WELL worth everyone's time to experience.
It's nice to see someone reacting _positively_ to the new stuff for a change. Also, seeing as you're a lore guy, I'd like to see your take on the Quest/Event Order. ---Recently, we got a Codex UI upgrade to filter main quests and side quests. And now, on the Wiki, you can find that the Main Quests are broken into three distinct arcs (so far), these being Tenno Awakening (consisting of the Awakening cutscene, Vor's Prise, Once Awake, The Archwing, Stolen Dreams, The New Strange, & Natah), Zariman Ten Zero (The Second Dream, The War Within, Chains of Harrow, Apostasy Prologue, & The Sacrifice), and The New War (which is just the cutscenes Chimera Prologue, Erra, & The Maker). ---Everything else is a Side Quest, but they _do_ happen. Additionally, all the old Operations and Trials _did_ happen within the game's lore, regardless of whether or not a player's character participated. So, as a video idea, I'd like to see your take on when these events take place within the story of the game; be that in release order or some other form of organization. And if anyone wants to chip in on this post, here's a reminder of all the Side Quests, Operations, the two Trials, and Nightwave. All of these can be copy-pasta'd to the Wiki search bar if you need a refresher. *Side Quests* Howl of the Kubrow | A Man of Few Words | Hidden Messages | The Limbo Theorem | Patient Zero | The Jordas Precept | Sands of Inaros | The Silver Grove | The Glast Gambit | Octavia's Anthem | Saya's Vigil | Mask of the Revenant | Vox Solaris | Rising Tide | The Deadlock Protocol | Heart of Deimos | Call of the Tempestarii *Operations (Events)* ---Fusion MOA Event | Artifact Defense Event | Informant Event | Operation: Sling-Stone | Operation: Arid Fear | Survival Weekend Event | The Gradivus Dilemma | The Hunt for Alad V ---A Favor for Darvo | The Cicero Crisis | Operation: Oxium Espionage | Ties that Bind | Tethra's Doom | Specters of Liberty | Suspicious Shipments | Operation: Breeding Grounds ---Avalanche Offensive | Operation: Cryotic Front | Back to School Special Alert Week (likely non-canon) | Operation: Gate Crash | Halloween 2014 Alert (likely non-canon event) ---Operation: Mutalist Incursions | Operation: Eyes of Blight | Operation: False Prophet | Operation: Tubemen of Regor | Infested Nightmares Bonus Weekend ---The Proxy Rebellion Bonus Weekend | Operation: Shadow Debt | Operation: Rathuum | The Proxy Retribution Bonus Weekend | Infested Summer | The Corpus Bust Alerts ---The Index Preview | Operation: The Pacifism Defect | Operation: Ambulas Reborn | Operation: Plague Star (Rarely Recurring) | The Pyrus Project ---Operation: Buried Debts (Frequently Recurring) | Operation: Hostile Mergers | Operation: Scarlet Spear | Nights of Naberus (Hopefully Recurring) | Operation: Orphix Venom ---Star Days (Hopefully Recurring) *8-Tenno Trials (called Raids, not to be confused with the removed Raid mission type)* ---The Law of Retribution | The Jordas Verdict *Nightwave* ---The Wolf of Saturn Six | The Emissary | Glassmaker My thoughts: ---All those one-time events need either an abridged side quest version or an Ordis-narrated/Nora-narrated fragment that you automatically get when you reach a certain Mastery Rank. ---I think it's obvious that Jordas Verdict comes after TJP. It even says so in the recap. ---Like SmoughTown, I feel that Vox Solaris, the Profit-Taker Bounty series, Buried Debts, Deadlock, & Tempestarii are a chain of quests intended to give more depth to the Corpus; seeing as the Grineer rather dominated the main quests up until TWW. ---It's also rather obvious that Alad V had a huge chain of both quests and one-time events (and the lion's share of Corpus development). Sling-Stone & Arid Fear; Gradivus Dilemma, The Hunt for Alad V, the Zanuka boss fight, & the subsequent introduction of the Zanuka Hunters; Suspicious Shipments, Breeding Grounds, Mutalist Incursions, Patient Zero, & Tubemen; Natah, The Second Dream, & Shadow Debt; his connection with the Loan Reclamation Division Index team; and Wolf of Saturn Six & Jovian Concord (Hostile Mergers + Partnership Fragments + Ropalolyst boss fight).
Former Waframe player here, 2015-2017. Quit playing and deleted my account. What I loved about Warframe was that it was a game that wasn't built around lore, but the lore was built around the game, and I believe that makes it so much more in depth and captivating. You were playing this awesome 'space ninja' faction that had so much enigma surrounding them, and it drew you in so much, and kept you guessing. This is a game that practically has infinite potential for lore and creativity.
@@seedstun4581 I just decided to move on really, and also it was a bit distracting to some things I needed to accomplish in real life. The game was awesome, but I needed to close the door permanently, so that I had nothing to return to. I still watch other people play from time to time.
My problem with the lore at the moment is that too many characters seem to know the big secret about the Tenno/Warframes and that it doesn't seem like a big deal anymore and that now with parvos and co there seems to be a lot of characters that were around during the time of the orokin, taking away a lot of the mysteries around them. It also implies that it wasn't that long ago that the orokin empire fell (maybe 600ish years ago) unlike how it was implied earlier in the lore that it was more like 1000s of years ago.
When indepth Corpus? I always found the Corpus interesting, but the origins may be less interesting then "Slave people who freed themselves became the thing they swore to destroy"
The thing about Granum that a lot of people don't seem to realize is that the difference between himself and Nef is primarily cosmetic. They're both generic capitalists who've built their fortunes on the backs of other people's work. They simply have different marketing. Nef's a prosperity preacher who promises explicitly supernatural rewards for giving him money. Granum is the leader of a cult of personality and pyramid scheme who promises money in exchange for giving him money and expects you to believe based on faith in him alone that this is "building your own fortune". Granum leverages his history as the original founder of the Corpus to give his side more credibility, but the conflict isn't actually one of pragmatism versus excess, but of a better conman who failed once and learned from his mistakes versus a complacent but more established conman who never expected his authority to be challenged. Also... calling Vala pragmatic... She tried to directly attack a Tenno out of a fanatical desire for revenge...
People can criticize DE for not releasing more gameplay or modes or rewards or more often, but their biggest strength has proven to be their writing and story and lore. Their writing in particular is so dense with development. Each line helps develop characters, there's very little filler, and each character feels like they have a unique voice.
eh kinda i think in some ways the recent lore and story stuff has tuned me off in terms of lore, i for one really hate it when characters make references to the real world that only make sense in from our perspective.
Is anyone hoping that the new war gonna gonna introduced a tenno npc that has the exclusive excal prime and his exclusive weapons? It like a slap to the face saying that that tenno has something the majority of us will never have. As for the tenno it could be the girl in the trailer. Either way i want som tenno npc as new allies on the upcoming war instead of random faction like we are not the only tenno in the solar system but somehow we have to take all the burden of the up coming war...
yeah tenno npc's would be really cool, especially if they are not portrayed as childish or just funny and instead play more of a serious role (being a child scared by the horrors it has seen on the battlefield) or maybe a tenno that has been mentally scared by the memories of one of their warframes
@@faber7507 yeah like really just any tenno that IS alive and will help out with the new war. I like your idea of a tenno that is scared of a warframe. My idea is that i really want them to introduce excal prime as an npc like it is exclusive to that npc and veterans player.
Who's supposed to be the socialist in this situation? Nef Anyo is a prosperity gospel cult leader who takes people's money in exchange for the promise of explicitly supernatural rewards from "The Void." Parvos Granum is a loan shark who leveraged a successful pyramid scheme into a cult of personality. They're both capitalists and con men, just in slightly different flavors.
I think the lore is great but the writing is weak as hell, they keep changing canon and ideas, and to me that says that there is no over arching plot. New stuff is just written/rewritten for each quest/ trailer
No offense but the games story has been on hold for 2+ years all the latest updates have been poorly released, and for these past couple years it's been unfulfilled promises.
Disagree. The old arc ended when The New War dropped, all updates are obviously setting the grounds for a new, larger story without it being an unfounded mess, introducing new chars within larger factions, new named enemies, and adding in lore threads at every turn.
@@forresthunt9573 man I've been playing since the game became available for consoles I'm familiar with every ounce of lore including all the operations that never seem to turn up anymore. They are building tiny infinitesimal pieces of several stories each update but we don't get updates but, 2 times a year, maybe 3.
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While were at it, the Sergeant could use a Rework. Maybe make him an abnormal Corpus who thinks money should be earned through combat and blood. A sort of twisted version of the Corpus doctrine with some Grineer aspects, a mercenary who fights for the highest bidder
And give him some Corpus marine that have heavy armor and better guns not just a bunch Crewmen
@@wertaiman4216 no. Give him a giant fucking mech-suit
@@geoczeoszkar A Corpus Exo suit and Corpus marines now thats cool. The Sergeant could get a new name and became the leader of most of the Corpus military thats why he will have elite units as bodyguards and we have to eliminate him because the Corpus military is getting stronger and could beat the Grineer if left to grow
What are you guys talking about don’t you all known that the sargent is Nef Anyo
@@joaopedrothinassi4072 i thought that lore is retcon
Let’s hope the current Parvos / Corpus lore arc perfectly segways into the New War or Duviri even
I see there is another man of culture who remembers the Duviri Paradox trailer
@@DGEddieDGEtm DE hasn't forgotten it. They're just trying to work through everything else before making their way there. In the pre Tempestarii stream, Steve was asked about Duviri, and he said New War was first. One thing at a time...
The way they went from Deadlock Protocol introducing Parvos, who casually mentioned the "Entrati secrets," to Heart of Deimos introducing us directly to the Entrati, to discovering their secrets by ranking up, learning about Albrecht's journey meeting the Man in the Wall, then leading to Vala Glarios's crew dying and Vala going to the void and being by Parvos' side, has been really terrific to watch. This community wanted more lore and story and, even if it hasn't been coming in a barrage, what has come has been really great. I'm happy DE has meeting that need.
And you are correct sir. New war is now on the horizon now we wait for what it reveals.
It probably won't tie into the New War Quest, given how it's generally about all factions. There probably will be a Parvos event in the future though, much like all the introductory events for the characters, like The Defectors from Saturn, the Buried Debts, etc.
Any lore that are not focused on the Tenno is always welcome. It feels like the origin system actually does live without the Tenno. Uncovering the lore behind the Corpus is pretty great.
Couldn't agree more. Parvos character has such a cool concept
He's just the charismatic leader of a loan shark pyramid scheme... Like... He literally describes how he made his money in his lore fragments and it's just a pyramid scheme. He made money by selling stolen goods, then gave loans and charged interest, and had others do the same, funneling the profits up towards himself.
I really like the guy. Instead of beheading his sworn sisters, I would like to sit down and have tea with the guy. Maybe even invite Ergo Glast and brainstorm on how to take down the Corpus and establish a stable economy in the Origin System.
@@neitherlink6612 I'd hope Glast wouldn't be pulled in by his nonsense. Granum founded the corpus and everything they became is descended from his teachings, which Glast rebelled against. There's no really significant philosophical difference between Granum and any other Corpus. He just doesn't like them because he considers them lazy and complacent. But I mean, for all we know he could just be trying to rationalize a desire for revenge over being betrayed as something more pragmatic.
@@YumLemmingKebabs Ah... I really thought he was like this farmer guy that made a genuinely good faction that gradually got more and more twisted over millenia. Though him being an MLM archetype makes sense with his huge Pyramid-shaped aesthetics.
@@Devilcakes Jesus Christ... I can cut through his BS image like a hot knife through butter but ask me about visual design and I'll stare at you like you're speaking a language I can't even identify, nevermind understand. Somehow the pyramid thing flew totally over my head even though it's sledgehammer levels of unsubtle symbolism. I totally missed that aspect, until you mentioned it just now. Also your response made me notice I had accidentally said Glast had no big ideological difference with the mainline corpus in my previous comment when I meant to say Granum so thanks again.
Another thing i noticed about vala nd how she gave us a representation of Parvos' side of the corpus by not being idle and actually working to advance, unlike Nef Anyo. I love the corpus since not only I like more technological factions in games, movies, comice, shows, etc but the corpus are very interesting and Parvos could and is already making it a bigger threat.
The only reason why I play this game still is for story. The lore and all this setup is so exciting to play and be apart of. Especially when they focus on the operator and the frames or the orokin. I just wish smaller stories like frame releases could come out often.
I respect anyone who just plays for the story. I say it all the time, the day to day grind isn't for everyone, but the story and quests are WELL worth everyone's time to experience.
yeah literally only came back because of the lore and stuff
Awesome video, just one thing, i think u have not seen the ordis lore, he get alot of development
It's nice to see someone reacting _positively_ to the new stuff for a change. Also, seeing as you're a lore guy, I'd like to see your take on the Quest/Event Order.
---Recently, we got a Codex UI upgrade to filter main quests and side quests. And now, on the Wiki, you can find that the Main Quests are broken into three distinct arcs (so far), these being Tenno Awakening (consisting of the Awakening cutscene, Vor's Prise, Once Awake, The Archwing, Stolen Dreams, The New Strange, & Natah), Zariman Ten Zero (The Second Dream, The War Within, Chains of Harrow, Apostasy Prologue, & The Sacrifice), and The New War (which is just the cutscenes Chimera Prologue, Erra, & The Maker).
---Everything else is a Side Quest, but they _do_ happen. Additionally, all the old Operations and Trials _did_ happen within the game's lore, regardless of whether or not a player's character participated. So, as a video idea, I'd like to see your take on when these events take place within the story of the game; be that in release order or some other form of organization. And if anyone wants to chip in on this post, here's a reminder of all the Side Quests, Operations, the two Trials, and Nightwave. All of these can be copy-pasta'd to the Wiki search bar if you need a refresher.
*Side Quests*
Howl of the Kubrow | A Man of Few Words | Hidden Messages | The Limbo Theorem | Patient Zero | The Jordas Precept | Sands of Inaros | The Silver Grove | The Glast Gambit | Octavia's Anthem | Saya's Vigil | Mask of the Revenant | Vox Solaris | Rising Tide | The Deadlock Protocol | Heart of Deimos | Call of the Tempestarii
*Operations (Events)*
---Fusion MOA Event | Artifact Defense Event | Informant Event | Operation: Sling-Stone | Operation: Arid Fear | Survival Weekend Event | The Gradivus Dilemma | The Hunt for Alad V
---A Favor for Darvo | The Cicero Crisis | Operation: Oxium Espionage | Ties that Bind | Tethra's Doom | Specters of Liberty | Suspicious Shipments | Operation: Breeding Grounds
---Avalanche Offensive | Operation: Cryotic Front | Back to School Special Alert Week (likely non-canon) | Operation: Gate Crash | Halloween 2014 Alert (likely non-canon event)
---Operation: Mutalist Incursions | Operation: Eyes of Blight | Operation: False Prophet | Operation: Tubemen of Regor | Infested Nightmares Bonus Weekend
---The Proxy Rebellion Bonus Weekend | Operation: Shadow Debt | Operation: Rathuum | The Proxy Retribution Bonus Weekend | Infested Summer | The Corpus Bust Alerts
---The Index Preview | Operation: The Pacifism Defect | Operation: Ambulas Reborn | Operation: Plague Star (Rarely Recurring) | The Pyrus Project
---Operation: Buried Debts (Frequently Recurring) | Operation: Hostile Mergers | Operation: Scarlet Spear | Nights of Naberus (Hopefully Recurring) | Operation: Orphix Venom
---Star Days (Hopefully Recurring)
*8-Tenno Trials (called Raids, not to be confused with the removed Raid mission type)*
---The Law of Retribution | The Jordas Verdict
*Nightwave*
---The Wolf of Saturn Six | The Emissary | Glassmaker
My thoughts:
---All those one-time events need either an abridged side quest version or an Ordis-narrated/Nora-narrated fragment that you automatically get when you reach a certain Mastery Rank.
---I think it's obvious that Jordas Verdict comes after TJP. It even says so in the recap.
---Like SmoughTown, I feel that Vox Solaris, the Profit-Taker Bounty series, Buried Debts, Deadlock, & Tempestarii are a chain of quests intended to give more depth to the Corpus; seeing as the Grineer rather dominated the main quests up until TWW.
---It's also rather obvious that Alad V had a huge chain of both quests and one-time events (and the lion's share of Corpus development). Sling-Stone & Arid Fear; Gradivus Dilemma, The Hunt for Alad V, the Zanuka boss fight, & the subsequent introduction of the Zanuka Hunters; Suspicious Shipments, Breeding Grounds, Mutalist Incursions, Patient Zero, & Tubemen; Natah, The Second Dream, & Shadow Debt; his connection with the Loan Reclamation Division Index team; and Wolf of Saturn Six & Jovian Concord (Hostile Mergers + Partnership Fragments + Ropalolyst boss fight).
Former Waframe player here, 2015-2017. Quit playing and deleted my account.
What I loved about Warframe was that it was a game that wasn't built around lore, but the lore was built around the game, and I believe that makes it so much more in depth and captivating. You were playing this awesome 'space ninja' faction that had so much enigma surrounding them, and it drew you in so much, and kept you guessing. This is a game that practically has infinite potential for lore and creativity.
Out of curiosity, why did you quit?
@@seedstun4581 I just decided to move on really, and also it was a bit distracting to some things I needed to accomplish in real life. The game was awesome, but I needed to close the door permanently, so that I had nothing to return to. I still watch other people play from time to time.
Your prediction was 1oo% spot on!
Absolutely delighted!
My problem with the lore at the moment is that too many characters seem to know the big secret about the Tenno/Warframes and that it doesn't seem like a big deal anymore and that now with parvos and co there seems to be a lot of characters that were around during the time of the orokin, taking away a lot of the mysteries around them. It also implies that it wasn't that long ago that the orokin empire fell (maybe 600ish years ago) unlike how it was implied earlier in the lore that it was more like 1000s of years ago.
I found your Grineer lore video and Cant wait for more lore videos of the quality the Grineer one was. Corpus next!!! Already subbed!!
When indepth Corpus? I always found the Corpus interesting, but the origins may be less interesting then "Slave people who freed themselves became the thing they swore to destroy"
The thing about Granum that a lot of people don't seem to realize is that the difference between himself and Nef is primarily cosmetic. They're both generic capitalists who've built their fortunes on the backs of other people's work. They simply have different marketing. Nef's a prosperity preacher who promises explicitly supernatural rewards for giving him money. Granum is the leader of a cult of personality and pyramid scheme who promises money in exchange for giving him money and expects you to believe based on faith in him alone that this is "building your own fortune". Granum leverages his history as the original founder of the Corpus to give his side more credibility, but the conflict isn't actually one of pragmatism versus excess, but of a better conman who failed once and learned from his mistakes versus a complacent but more established conman who never expected his authority to be challenged. Also... calling Vala pragmatic... She tried to directly attack a Tenno out of a fanatical desire for revenge...
The more I play the more I feel like we are no heros the Tenno are probably the closest to be the villains in this current era!
that idea used to be part of the lore but over the years it has became pretty clear that we are just the good guys
@@faber7507 if that’s true then thatd be pretty lame
I like coming back to the type of videos after "The New War" to see how things went
The word of the day is "Pragmatic"
People can criticize DE for not releasing more gameplay or modes or rewards or more often, but their biggest strength has proven to be their writing and story and lore. Their writing in particular is so dense with development. Each line helps develop characters, there's very little filler, and each character feels like they have a unique voice.
eh kinda i think in some ways the recent lore and story stuff has tuned me off in terms of lore, i for one really hate it when characters make references to the real world that only make sense in from our perspective.
What’s the song that plays during the outro? Anyone know?
I just wanna know whats up with the Stalker and Hunhow
Hmmm gold glove , Thanos???
Is anyone hoping that the new war gonna gonna introduced a tenno npc that has the exclusive excal prime and his exclusive weapons? It like a slap to the face saying that that tenno has something the majority of us will never have. As for the tenno it could be the girl in the trailer. Either way i want som tenno npc as new allies on the upcoming war instead of random faction like we are not the only tenno in the solar system but somehow we have to take all the burden of the up coming war...
yeah tenno npc's would be really cool, especially if they are not portrayed as childish or just funny and instead play more of a serious role (being a child scared by the horrors it has seen on the battlefield) or maybe a tenno that has been mentally scared by the memories of one of their warframes
@@faber7507 yeah like really just any tenno that IS alive and will help out with the new war. I like your idea of a tenno that is scared of a warframe. My idea is that i really want them to introduce excal prime as an npc like it is exclusive to that npc and veterans player.
someone stole my NY Taxi poster! (I have the same ^^)
Or this is a very well developed character way more than cephalon cye the problem is they haven't touched on his storyline in a long time
Spoiler Alert: it got even better.
If u say pragmatic one more time I’m gonna go insane
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In regards to the title. That’s not saying much….
Too much -world-, not enough story right now.
Corpus has better character development than the grineer.
Bro something about your gain or normalizing needs to change. Your whistles are hitting hot.
Sooooo evil space capitalist vs evil space socialist?
More like space corporatist vs. space capitalist. Parvos is still all about getting profit. He's just a more "work for your own fortune" type.
@@samiamtheman7379 Ever better.....or worse.
Who's supposed to be the socialist in this situation? Nef Anyo is a prosperity gospel cult leader who takes people's money in exchange for the promise of explicitly supernatural rewards from "The Void." Parvos Granum is a loan shark who leveraged a successful pyramid scheme into a cult of personality. They're both capitalists and con men, just in slightly different flavors.
How long have we've been on this filler arc?
Well, I guess you are easily entertained.
I think the lore is great but the writing is weak as hell, they keep changing canon and ideas, and to me that says that there is no over arching plot. New stuff is just written/rewritten for each quest/ trailer
No offense but the games story has been on hold for 2+ years all the latest updates have been poorly released, and for these past couple years it's been unfulfilled promises.
Disagree. The old arc ended when The New War dropped, all updates are obviously setting the grounds for a new, larger story without it being an unfounded mess, introducing new chars within larger factions, new named enemies, and adding in lore threads at every turn.
@@forresthunt9573 man I've been playing since the game became available for consoles I'm familiar with every ounce of lore including all the operations that never seem to turn up anymore. They are building tiny infinitesimal pieces of several stories each update but we don't get updates but, 2 times a year, maybe 3.
Lore has always been bad and continues to be bad.