Y'know, given that Ron didn't really use an "incantation" in the typical sense, did he lowkey perform what should have been a perfect nonverbal spell in 2nd year? Like, it totally would have worked if his wand wasn't garbage.
And then they just casually had Grindelwald use the same spell too in the newest movie. And also mention the spell as a healing spell, in year 2 of Hogwarts Mystery (game)
What about the spell that creates inferi? Dying is terrifying enough, but imagine having your body reanimated to be used against your will as someone else's thrall, who can make your corpse do harm onto others? That's terrible for both the living and the dead.
The soul is no longer in the body, so I dont think it would matter that much to the dead. I mean if they know, like if they can look on the world from the afterlife and see that it's being used, it may be disturbing, but they arent inside the body so perhaps not terrifying for them.
@@BladefireA The thought of that happening once you are dead should be enough to make it on the list, the fact that a dark wizard can make an army that isn't affected by poison or magic, only fire, should make it in the top 3.
@@monsterhunter6441 I never thought it shouldn't be on the list, I more think it just wouldnt be terrifying for the dead person because they're not in the body anymore. It's still absolutely horrifying for the living who have to face it, and disgusting and disturbing in general.
@@BladefireA You do make a fair point, but I'd still make it an honourable mention at least. Still though, evil or not, the idea of a magical army of what are essentially zombies sounds badass.
@@munstrumridcully Harry didn’t know what Sectumsempra was. He just wanted to try it out. Little that he know how deadly Sectumsempra can be. In the case of Snape, it was right after he killed Dumbledore.
@@sciencesociety2919 no I get it with snake definitely was Furious about Dumbledore and killed but the ultimate cause of that was Voldemort I just think it's funny that Voldemort is always using Avada Kedavra and Harry is just using either stupefy or most often Expelliarmus which are like beginner spells I just always wondered why they weren't using something a little bit you know with More power, like in the Muggle world it would be like using a 22 against Resident Evil Nemesis instead of a rocket launcher or Magnum or something you know what I mean?
I think harry gets a lot of heat for using sectum sempra on Draco. I feel like harry only used it because it was quoted “for enemies”. At that point harry had already suspected Draco being a death eater which was the very group who served the man bent on killing him. It may have been out of character for harry to use the curse but at least his logic makes sense
Also, when you're in the heat of the moment, you pretty much have to act without thinking. Harry was in the middle of a duel with Malfoy, whom he considered a Death Eater (like you said). Death Eaters are more than capable and willing to commit evil deeds, so holding back against them is dangerous and will likely get you killed. Malfoy also attempted to use the Cruciatus Curse on Harry during that fight, which is a LITERAL Unforgivable Curse. If he had succeeded, Harry would have been completely helpless. So he had to act immediately. Sectumsempra was labelled "For Enemies" and Malfoy in that moment absolutely fit the criteria. And it's like what he said when Hermione questioned why he was defending the HBP: "It just said: For Enemies, it didn't say 'Try this out, it's really good'." There was absolutely no reason to suspect it was so malevolent, especially given how helpful all of the HBP's advice had been throughout the year.
Love the list. The horocrux creation spell is also like a form of self torture. Leaving your soul behind is evil not just for the murder and suffering you inflict on others but also the pain you inflict on yourself by losing a part of your soul. Casting this spell indicates to me that the caster doesn't love themselves just as much as it indicates they hate other people.
Here is some logic. No one truly hates themselves. Over-eater feeds themselves whenever they desire food, would you feed someone you hate? Numb yourself to escape reality with drugs. Who helps someone they hate to escape? The issue comes from a weak view of hatred which our society doesn't like, hate that is, but during WWII hating our enemies was encouraged, propagated and tolerated. No one truly hates themselves, they drink when thirsty and eat when hungry, doesn't sound like true hate to me, does it to you? What the real issue is is that we hate what we do or have become because we have too high a view of ourselves and doing the things we supposedly hate refutes that view. When desire calls though we feed it. It's why alcoholics deny their alcoholism, they're too good a person to be a drunk. We have no discipline like parents who spoil their children.
Im not sure. I get what you mean whit doesnt love himself but at the same time someone whos willing to split his sole just so he doesnt die must rly love himself
Would you burn a building to the ground to destroy a Horcrux? Because that's the dilemma with Fiendfyre. Apart from the fact that Horcruxes are kinda rare, and I'm pretty sure the creator of the spell didn't aim to invent a Horcrux destruction charm.
@@leventebardossy5962 Burn a building to destroy a horcrux? You're damn right I would. Mostly if the Horcrux is actively a threat to the people around it, if it isn't, then I'd simply take it to a more isolated location. Especially as Fiendfyre seems to be the most accessible method of destroying one.
Here are some arguments as to why most of these spells are not inherently evil, and can actually be used for good in certain circumstances: 5. *Sectumsempra* can be used as a surgical cutting spell, as well as for cutting up dead animals for meat. Also, as the counter-curse only heals flesh wounds, you can cut regular objects beyond magical repair, something which may prove useful in certain situations. 4. *Fiendfyre* is a cursebreaker's best friend, as it effectively disenchants any magical object it touches - it can take out dangerous traps in tombs, and destroy wardstones from a safe distance. 3. *Imperio* is a great tool for Mind Healers who want to prevent their patients from harming themselves or others. Aurors could also cast it at criminals to prevent them from fighting or fleeing. A farmer could use it as an alternative to a sheepdog. 2. *Crucio* could be used to try curing paralysis victims by stimulating the nerve endings. That's just conjecture though, otherwise I can't really defend it. 1. I can't really defend the creation of Horcruxes, but I would argue that it's much more likely to be a ritual than a spell, and therefore has no place on this list. Some spells I would argue are equally (if not more) deserving of being in this list are: 1. The Transmogrifian Torture curse, assuming it does what it says on the tin - twisting and permanently altering the shape of the victim to inflict pain upon them. Then again, it follows suit that the counter to this curse would also be the same curse, and therefore it could be used for good. 2. The Entrail-Expelling curse, assuming it actually expels the entrails, and not what's contained within them. However, this curse could be used for processing dead animals, and it may actually just be a bowel-clearing spell (which would make sense, given its inventor was a Healer). 3. Legilimency literally allows you to tear through someone's mind and discover their darkest secrets and their deepest desires. While I do admit it could be used to communicate with mutes, if you need to see someone's memories, just use a pensieve! 4. Obliviation removes memories. Memories make a person who they are. Therefore, obliviation is bad. Super bad. Like, 'should be an Unforgivable curse' bad. Don't use it, not even on Muggles - just teach witches and wizards how to not be idiots in the Muggle world.
I agree with Imperio the most bcz it does have ways of being used for good in its own weird way, but I think Fiendfyre would literally destroy everything in its path including the curse, not only limited to the cursed object you want to disenchant so I have to agree with the videos perspective but really interesting take! I also thought about the Sectum Sempra surgical cuts, but I obvs dont know if you can make the cut less deep then it was portraied in the movies so I would probably not risk it lmao
Obliviation can be used to treat PTSD or to remove the memories of someone who committed terrible things under Imperio , and of course something that allows you to see into someone’s mind would be great for interrogating criminals.
Sorry to say, I completely disagree with your list. 5. There's no way an "invisible sword" can cut with surgical precision. Also, cutting an animal through hemorrhaging is so inhumane. 4. There's no such thing as a "safe distance" as it requires immense skill to control. 3. & 2. Unforgivable curses REQUIRE you to want to seriously maim a person to increase its effectiveness. You literally cannot defend/forgive them... it's in the name. 1. Just because it behaves like a ritual, does not disqualify it as a spell. Think of Draco mending the Vanishing Cabinet. Good intentions but terrible counter-arguments.
I always found the term "Evil spell" funny. Because while some spells can be considered terrible due to their effect, in the wrong hand even some of the simplest of spells can be disgustingly evil. There is the Dark Arts... and then there are the "dark arts" of using normal spells for terrible deeds. James Potter used that cleaning charm or what to almost choke Snape. The fire starting spell can be used to raze homes. Which is more painful, the one shot kill Avada Kedavra or getting wrecked by blasting charm, I wonder... I think most spells are only as evil as the person who uses them. And we also judge spells based on who they are targeted at.
Well, I think the Dark Arts aren't called such just because they are dangerous. Put it this way: using the Killing Curse on someone _literally_ rips your _soul_ apart. Crucio isn't just some pain spell, you have to truly feel hatred, to be motivated not by justice, but a desire to make the other person suffer.
I’m pretty sure the killing curse doesn’t rip your soul, killing itself does, you could kill someone using sectumsempra and it would still count, it’s just that Voldemort uses avada kedavra
Descendo is probably the most brutal spell of all. Avada is great and all, but it's really quick and painless. Imagine your broken bones ripping through the skin as you're forced into the ground at terminal velocity... Descendo.
@@what-xn3lv well harry potter used the crucio curse on bellatrix lestrange when he was chasing her down after she killed Sirius black in the ministry of magic although she was only kicked off of her feet as stated by harry potter theory and in the it was harry potter first time useing that and later on in the series he would use the mind control curse on a grimmgots bank goblin employee to rob bellatrix lestrange bank vault as revenge for what she did to Sirius black
@@dustydurant2746 he didn't Rob the Lestrange bank as revenge for Sirius. He knew there was a horcrux in there due to Bellatrix shouting about being "his most trusted, his most loyal", plus the freaking out about someone having been in her vault and taking something other than the sword. 🙂
I’m glad Avada Kedavra didn’t make this list. Voldemort used to curse for evil but Snape used it at the request of Dumbledore. The killing curse can be used both ways.
What makes the killing curse sinister is that it leaves no traces and the corpses looks shocked with open eyes which creates terror in the eyes of witness.
@@headstrongbachelor3152 Not only that but I think it also has to do with its instantaneous nature. With the exception of Harry it’s a spell that absolutely no one has any hope of recovering from if hit. While a spell like Sectumsempra is arguably more evil because of the damage it does to the body, it does at least have a counter and can be survived if treated properly. But with Avada Kedavra there is no hope, and I think that’s why it’s so feared and considered unforgivable when compared to other curses/spells.
@@DarkMaestro88 The killing curse is not only perfect to commit murder but also terrorism. Imagine come home and see the corpses of your family lies down with open eyes and terror in their faces.
The only one I disagree with is the imperius curse. Because you have control over someone doesn't mean you must command them to do something to their own detriment. I can't see it as intrinsically evil just because people use it for evil purposes. One could argue it's amoral, but evil seems a stretch to me. Great content though 👍🏾
Exactly, there are some good ways to use it. For example, you know someone who's seriously considering becoming a Death Eater, so to stop them you use the imperius curse on them and command them not to
I see the argument that taking away someone's free will is evil but lots of spells could be said to do that: I don't want to drop my wand but Expelliarmus forces me to, I don't want to stand still but Petrificus Totalus makes me etc. I agree that it can be used for good purposes: for example, Harry uses it three times getting into Gringotts and McGonagall uses it on Amycus Carrow to make him tie himself and his sister up.
Harry used the spell as a result of instinct, he was reading Half Blood Prince's book everyday and he came across the spell a lot. He wanted to try it out, but wasn't able to. Then when Draco was dueling with Harry, Draco was about to use the Cruciatus Curse on Harry. therefore he, Harry, used the spell.
As for Sectumsempra: Harry could have never predicted what Sectumsempra did. And as Ginny said to Hermione, Harry was defending himself from a potentially Unforgivable Curse in a duel that he didn’t start. Therefore, it’s fair game to fight fire with fire.
Do they not learn about spells in Hogwarts though? Surely there must be a class on word pronouncation and the etymology ( meaning behind the words). I mean when Snape created the spell, surely he didn't pull the words from nowhere, and must have known the meaning behind them ( to cut etc). Harry could have easily looked that up in the library?
@@steveozone4910 they do learn spells at Hogwarts, but not Sectumsempra. They learn about Unforgivables but they’re not taught how to cast them. Draco probably learned how to cast it outside of Hogwarts.
@@steveozone4910 and he could have looked them up, but he had a lot of other stuff on his mind. Like I said, Sectumsempra’s actual purpose was something Harry couldn’t have even imagined.
@@briesullivan883 I wasn't in disagreement with your logic, just how my brain works. The world has to be based on sense and logic, even a fantasy world. I know J.K used Latin words to make her spells. Whether they used Latin within the actual world I do not know. But there must have been some understanding needed to create a spell you know, like the words mean something.
@@steveozone4910 of course it does. I’m just saying that it’s realistic for Harry to miss a few things here and there. Contrary to what most people say, Harry is usually very observant, but he can’t notice everything because no one notices everything around them. We take in the details that are most pertinent to what we are dealing with. If I’m driving to work, I’m not going to notice the bird’s nest in the tree on the side of the road. I’m paying attention to the stop signs, red lights etc. And when we have a lot on our mind like Harry did in the 6th book, we are likely to miss things that are right in front of us.
I also gotta mention that part "it cant be used righteosly". Well, basically there is a way. And it is to destroy a dark wizard's existing horcrux to end his tyranny. Talking about Fiendfyre
A similar case could be argued for imperio. Moreso since imperio was used for that reason deliberately (Gringotts break in), while Fiendfyre was used to kill , with such destruction being unintentional and convenient. Not to say one couldn't use it intentionally for a righteous purpouse, but it'd be a very niche case.
@@ratdude747 Tbh I don't get why Legilimens isn't illegal it's literally a mind probe. Sure there's a way to block it but that doesn't seem to be common knowledge.
@@brolytriplethreat It is literally taught in schools in later years, so yes, it is. The reason why it isn't widely practiced is that Legilimency and Occlumency are complex to practice at all, and very difficult to master. Most people aren't good at it, so they don't tend to use it all that much if at all.
Sectum Sempra is not always dark. Like a gun, it is a tool. It may be used to murder or defend from being murdered. If you are in a fight for your life or the lives of loved ones it is certainly a valid spell to stop the threat.
@@headstrongbachelor3152 theres potions that make you spill all your secrets without even hurting someone. Plus it wont work if you use it like you suggested. It only works if you want to torture someone for the sake of torturing someone
*Godric*: Now we have built the school, we have just enough magic left to protect it from one spell. I propose Avada Kedavra. *Helga*: Oh gosh, I think I'd rather be killed than tortured with the Cruciatus curse! *Rowena*: We must consider the Imperius curse. With it comes much evil. *Salazar*:(casting) _protego disaparatium_
@@anshugarg6353 The anti-apparation wards around Hogwarts. You know, that really inconvenient prevention of any teleportation, which makes it harder to flee if the school is under attack?
Good list, really enjoyed this. The inclusion of the Horcrux spell as #1 was a nice turn, as I felt the video was straying towards the killing curse, only to be pleasantly surprised.
@@BladefireA It's right there. Before the video plays, I can see the top comment. Maybe your peripherals don't reach, but they spoiled for me. You can discuss the video without explicitly naming parts of the video (spells in this case) too, you know. Everyone that has watched it will understand you.
@@MrEpicdary I can see the top comment but I make a conscious effort to not read it if I havent watched the video yet. Usually works. People shouldnt have to tip toe around the discussion to make sure no one gets any spoilers. If someone is worried about spoilers they should make a conscious effort to not read the top comment. Like click the video and then immediately pull up to turn it full screen so you dont even have the chance to see the comment if you cant filter it out otherwise.
Personally, I feel that their are only 3 really pure evil spells in Harry Potter: 1. Horcrux spell. You're have to commit pre-mediated, willful murder of an innocent for your own selfish interests. No defense for that. 2. Crucio. The only justifiable excuse for torture is to get information. But since Imperio exists, torture has no purpose in the HP universe other than to satisfy sadists. 3. Inferi spell: You turn your innocent victims into undead slaves for you. Not justification for that either. Avada Kadavra and Imperio can be used for moral purposes (As seen by Snape and Potter). Meanwhile, Fiendfyre could be uses to destroy a horcrux (which is something good). Sectumsempra can be healed if you want to show mercy.
Pretty sure inferi’s souls are not still within their body, so their chilling in wherever wizards go when they die. I saw a theory about crucio could be used to help paralyzed people, by triggering their nerves or something. I agree, and sectumsempra can be used for other things then attacking humans
True! I never thought of Avada Kedavra as really evil. It’s more evil to stab someone with a knife because the person would feel pain, with Avada Kedavra they just die instantly.
When you think that Harry successfully cast 3 spells on this list (Sectumsempra, Imperio and Crucio). Fair list, however, if the criteria to make it onto the list is that the spells cannot be used in a righteous way, I'd disagree with Imperio and Fiendfyre. Imperio - We see McGonagall use Imperio to prevent the Carrows from interfering when they are preparing the castle's defences for the final battle. We also see Harry use Imperio on the Goblin (Bogrod) and Travers in order to break into a Death Eater controlled Gringotts to steal the horcurx. To me, using the spell in order to get past the defences guarding apart of Voldemort's soul required to be destroyed in order to end the war is a righteous use of the spell. Fiendfyre - In the Horcrux Creation Spell part of the video, the book calls the horcrux the "wickedest of magical inventions". Fiendfyre could be used to destroy a horcrux, and would have been if Hermione was confident that she could control it. This is a righteous use.
Well hermione couldn’t have controlled it, for it requires a very powerful wizard to control it matter of fact I personally think that only wizards like voldy, dumbledore and grindewald could control it completely being confident isn’t enough to control such a spell
Rowling added a degree of balance to the mix. Spells can have recoil, and the darker the spell the darker the effect on the caster. Also I wouldn't consider Sectum Sempra to be a "dark" spell. It doesn't require hate or dark intent nor it is particularly evil.
I just think it's funny that the emo, racist kid that got picked on in school made a "school stabbing" spell. If it were america, the spell would be magical bullets, not slashes I think lol
I have a theory that all things in magic have a balance. Specifically regarding the torture curse. If one was skilled enough one could create a pleasure curse, one so powerful that to live without its effects would be in of itself "torture". Thereby creating a means for a wizards brothel where wizards and witches could go to experience extreme pleasure muted only by a memory potion given after to prevent addiction or the adverse feeling of being tortured when not under the effects of the curse.
I don't think "Vulnera Santentur" is a specific counter-charm to Sectumsempra, as it's just Latin for "wounds are being healed". I think this just works for any cuts/wounds, including those done by Sectumsempra
They know what those spells do and how bad they can be so it's not weird for them to fear it coz the same spells they like to use can be used against them too
Harry got away with cursing Beletrix because it was done in the Minestry of Magic. Not to mention Harry could have claimed a bit of temporary insanity because the one that it was used on killed the casters last magical family member rite in front of him... Sirius... Not to mention attention at the end of that time had went from Harry & Dumbledore to the physical proof of Voldemort by the Minestry.
Can you do a video on what would have happened if Peter Pettigrew didn’t escape at the end of POA and was brought to Fudge? How would Fudge have handled it? Would he have complied with Dumbledore and brought Peter to justice? Would there be mass investigations on those in Azkaban during that time? Or would Peter have still gotten away en route to the Ministry and Azkaban- either on accident or on purpose on Fudge’s part? If the latter, I think Fudge would likely disguise it as an ‘accident’. As far as how it would be rewritten to make it happen(for fanfic purposes) if Peter was truly brought to justice and didn’t escape, I think the story could be reworked to have Barty Crouch Jr fighting off the Imperious Curse sooner, attaining a wand while pretending to be under the Imperious Curse (probably stealing his father’s in the middle of the night), and escaping. However I think Peter Pettigrew likely escapes due to Fudge’s incompetence or he “escapes” because Fudge wants to cover up the truth. Thus the timeline for Voldemort’s return and the Ministry’s reaction stays intact and it could intensify Fudge’s desire to discredit Dumbledore. I think Dumbledore would know what he was dealing with regarding Fudge. Thus I think he would have secured evidence of Sirius’ innocence in case if something like that happened. Dumbledore would be able to prove Sirius’ innocence in a court of law like he did with Harry in the beginning of Book 5, but Fudge would have mobilized the Daily Prophet to stir up enough propaganda about Sirius to make enough of the public doubt Dumbledore. Fudge’s denial about Voldemort at the end of Book 4 and throughout Book 5 and the subsequent propaganda about Dumbledore and Harry in Book 5 happen just like in the OG.
@@aleksaradulovic2481 yes but Fudge would have known about Peter being an animagus, so they’d use magic to prevent Peter from transforming. That said Fudge could “accidentally” undo the magic.
I remember Magic Awakened game feature young students dueling with another using those dark spells, it's so funny to see them use, just as hearing them saying "Avada Kedavra"
The spell to create a living life like portrait of yourself is pretty evil,and from my understand traps the soul of someone inside of,why you think the portraits can freely move around from one portrait to another's at will.. The creation spell of the dementors who literally suck the essence from you living you with your worst terrors unimaginable
The portraits are like moving pictures, the thing that traps the soul, is called a horcrux. If the portraits trapped a part of the soul, no one would need horcruxes. Harry is given pictures of his parents, they move too, despite his parents being dead.
Right when I saw the tittle of the video the first spell that came to my head was fiend fire it just a really powerful spell , and it has nearly no ways to get rid of it, and like you said I can also destroy a horcrux. Love the video!! :)
Slughorn travelled all around. He definitely met Dark wizards. And himself wasn't less than a Dark wizard just difference is he didn't used it for evil works. Therefore he may have met Herpo the Foul, only known Horcrux creator. He maybe alive. As we don't know if his Horcrux is destroyed. Also Dumbledore may too knew Horcrux arts as he was a smart old gangsta. In his youth, he too have been searching for Deathly hallows, could be also knew about Herpo and Horcruxes, just refused to do it. Possibilities are Unlimited.
How can Imperio be seen as worse than Avada Kedavra? I would say the opposite. You said yourself in the beginning of the clip that for a spell to enter this list it had to be entirely evil, not just that it can be used in an evil way while others use it for good. In the books imperio is used multiple times to do good, not evil, while Avada Kedavra is only used to murder. I agree that Avada Kedavra is more merciful than Crucio and Sectumsempra, since they are so much more painful. But murder still ends a life and thereby renders the victim's family and friends in grief, so it's still evil. And the spell is never used for good purposes throughout the books, only for evil.
Imperio **can** be used for good though. If someone wanted to do something horrible to themselves or innocent people, you could instantly stop them by using the imperius curse and ordering them not to do it, and even create an extremely positive impact by giving them a whole bunch of helpful commands that would make them do the opposite of whatever harmful things you forced them not to do. I'd make Death Eaters kill dementors and Voldemort under the imperius curse and make Umbridge undo all the evil laws she created at the Ministry of Magic, then make her do something she'd be fired for so she wouldn't have a position of power anymore after I stopped controlling her. Another cool option would be in the wizarding world entertainment industry, something kinda like a stage hypnotist comedy act but with magic instead, where the caster consensually forces cast members volunteers from the audience to do silly things during the show and releases them as soon as it's over.
Never thought about it but harry all unforgivable curses used on him Avada Kedavra by Voldemort Crucio by Voldemort Imperio by madeye moody (in the books 📚)
Lethal injection isn't painless... They just use an anesthetic so you can move. People who have survived the cocktail say it's like your blood is boiling and everything in the body is screaming. They can't move though so it's not merciful at all. A bullet to the dome is the fastest, cheapest, and most effective way to go. And it's merciful. Out go the lights... unless the gunman decides to be a jerk and "misses" the brain the first time around.
I disagree when you suggest Harry isn't messed uo enough to use Crucio. Hed really is. Let me explain. Firstly he spent mostly all of his childhood being practically tortured and absused by his Dursley family, lived under the stairs, abused, ignored, you get the jist. He had lost his parents to brutal and cruel murder before he was even past his infant years and grew up into a strict, extreme and punishing set of rules and lifestyle. Harry was for the msot part a brillaint person with agood heart sure but good doesn't not equil the intentions to be bad in a sense. he was able to use Sectumsempra a spell virtually no one knows outside of Snape with the intentions to kill Malfoy if he could have done if he did seem worried after using it he hardly didn't not understand its nature as he had the Half Blood Princes book of spells to even learn it in the first place. He watched Bellatrix Le-Strange assassinate his last honourable family member (outside of her and him being related) in cold blood right before his eyes and chased her to fight her and ultimately kill her or torture her if he could to Crucio her. The reason I disagree is simply because. Sure he had a good natured heart, yes he wasn't a legit killer at first hand but- And but. He was a tortured soul who had been throught the depths of hell and back who genuine wanted to destroy Bellatrix there and then if he could have even in the books. It simply came down to the fact that he'd just seen some one he loves be brutally murdered and was in shock, disbelief, scardd, angry, confused- Well he had every emotion running through him at the exact same time all at once which is conflicting. He also had very little if any experience in using such a curse on anyone per say which lead to it faiiling. The fact it didn't backfire and he was albe to even cast it in the first place suggests he did mean it, his wand wasn't holding back and if he had better expoerience using Crucio and had a broarder knowledge of darker magic he'd ave done anumber on her with it if he was older and less conflicted. You should do a video ragarding meaning, spells and why some fail due to emotions rather than intent. :) I strongly believe Harry Potter is more than capible of casting a realistic Crucio under the right cirucumstances rahter than he cannot becuase he's not ill hearted.
Just because he was high on angry emotions, and has a past of being personally abused, doesn’t mean that he personally is a “messed up” enough person to do the spell properly. That’s why it didn’t even work at the peak of his angriest moment. The reason why Death Eaters can do it even if they don’t have a past as bad as Harry’s or aren’t angry at the time, is because they’re genuinely messed up people who love to torture. That’s not who Harry is, and hence the spell didn’t have the full impact. It’s like the patronus charm. You need to be the type of person who can conjure a happy memory. Some Death Eaters can’t do the spell because they don’t have memories like that, but rather see just so messed up that they can kill or torture with the flick of a wand.
As Fiendfyre obviously can be controlled by a skilled witch or wizzard (it seems not only Voldemort could but the Carrows seem to be able too and they seem not to be the brightest either and Dumbledore could stopp Voldemorts) and it can destroy dangerous dark objects it might actually be a quite useful spell for an auror. But one might practice it at a remote place with somebody skilled and powerful there to help and perform Dumbledores fire extinguisher spell in case it goes wrong.
I feel like when Harry used Sectum Sempra on Malfoy without knowing what it even does would've made it stronger. It is reckless just to wave a wand that isn't connected to you but casting a spell you don't know is on a whole different level.
Well I mean malfoy tried to use the crucio on him so I don't think harry did anything wrong in using the sectumsempra in the heat of the moment draco deserved that
I like that Avada Kadava was not on this list. It's like there playing with a bunch of big guns when they shoot those green sparks. Hardly the evilest of things.
Don't forget that "purple spell" that Dolohov uses on Hermione at the Ministry of Magic in Order of the Phoenix. I don't know if it had a name but it was supposedly his specialty and Hermione was very injured by it.
The one thing not mentioned is returning a spell back to the caster. I return this spell to thee. By the laws of 3 times 3. This is a spell that returns a curse or spell back to the caster threefold or three times as strong so depending on which spell curse or charm is used and it's returned back to the caster could probably make it worse than any of the other spells on this list. And the incantation is spoken three times it also has to include thought and intent. I'm surprised that this was never mentioned in the Harry Potter universe. This spell can be performed with or without a wand.
Self-contradiction: fiendfyre does have at least one "righteous" use as you pointed out in the video - to destroy a horcrux. It's possibly the only means readily available to a wizard to do so, as not everyone is going to have access to basilisk venom.
When this video was originally uploaded, I remember being surprised that only two of the Unforgivable Curses were on the list until the Horcrux creation spell came up.
I heard of one, the Entrail Expelling Curse. That one would be painful and EXTREMELY messy. 🤢🤮 I think out of one of the most painful spells, I take the Sectumsempra.
Avada Kedavra is stated to kill instantly and completely painlessly. It's surprisingly 'kind', as far as murder weapons go. Compare it to using spells such as those mentioned above, or others like Bombarda, Confringo, Diffindo, Expulso, Reducto... or the Transmogrifian Torture curse, if it exists.
Technically we don't "know" that murder is "required" for this to work, all we know is that it requires the splitting of ones soul and murder will do that, there may be other ways, we just don't know them.
Legal injection doesn't kill Instantly or painlessly. It actually takes around 20-40 minutes, with the first injection paralyzing and stilling the person, but they can very much hear, feel, think. It then sends a second drug, thus drug is like liquid fire to the nervous system, then the final drug, which hopefully works quickly, this one stops your lungs , it's like a hand that suddenly grabs them and causes them to convulse and stop drawing breath. Legal injection is painless for the viewer, not the person being Injected, this is a common misdirection, it's not messy, loud, or unsettling fir the viewer, but it's not painless or Instant at all, the person just can't move or scream, they can't communicate the agony of this injection. People who have used these drugs beforehand have described them, as does any research into them individually.
I DISAGREE ABOUT SNAPE INVENTING SECTUMSEMPRA! ADDITIONALLY I DON'T THINK IT BELONGS ON THIS LIST AS EVIL!!! Also I don't think Fiendfyre deserves on this list either because it can be used for good.
I don’t know that I would put Imperio on the list. The evil isn’t in the spell but in the intent of the caster. For example Harry used it to get the Huffelpuff cup horcrux. Since it doesn’t intrinsically harm the target I would argue it doesn’t belong on this list.
Crucio is definitely very torturous, but to one can easily get away without a life sentence, Voldemort cast a lightning spell once he took possession of the Elder Wand. If anyone knows that spell, aurors noticed it's not Crucio in nature, but a new one called Force Lightning.
I have a theory regarding horcruxes, and here it is: I think that while horcruxes provide immortality, the cost is far more extreme than ever imaginable. I think that when the owner of a horcrux reaches their age of death (which is predestined by fate), they stay alive, but barely. As they were supposed to die, their body starts to decay, and what remains would be like that little grotesque baby thing in Kings Cross when Harry is hit by Voldemort's killing curse in DH. As Slughorn said, death would be a better option, and it shows how evil you would have to be to make horcruxes. I guess, after you 'die', the only way to restore your body would be to drink some Elixir of Life. Imagine living forever, but being helpless for most of it, barely alive, and physically decayed, your split soul just barely anchoring you to this world. Of course, we have no way of proving that this happened due to only two people ever creating horcruxes either dying too young (Voldemort), or going into hiding forever (Herpo the Foul).
You can use the killing curse to kill an animal that you plan on eating like a chicken pig or corn and it will do so with no pain. It's kinda like a gun if you use it to kill an animal for food that's one thing but if you use it to kill a person that is something completely different. About the only good thing I can think of That Fiend Fire could be used for is to destroy a Horcruxe .
According to an interview with J K Rowling she told her publishing agent the full Horcrux making process including the unknown most unforgivable disturbing bit she's not told many and he was almost sick.
To me, the killing curse is the least extreme of the unforgivable curses simply because it could even be used in a merciful way. Let's say, especially in the war, you have someone near you in excruciating pain and there is no way to save them. They will die and they will die slowly and in agony. I would argue it would be more merciful to cast the killing curse than to leave them suffering. I know I would rather a person do that to me. It could also be used, if the person consents to it and is of sound mind to make the decision, as a form of euthanasia for those suffering long-term and knowing they will die with no chance of survival. They may choose to have it performed on them to save them from a far worse death. I know this is an opinion many may disagree with. But to me, the killing curse doesn't HAVE to be wholly evil. The cruciatus curse is, in my opinion, the spell that is truly evil. One could even argue that the imperious curse could be used for good - a loose example being using it on someone who is about to cause serious harm. I'm aware there would be other measures, but I'm talking if nothing else works.
Unless I'm missing something I never really saw the killing curse as evil depending on the person who casts it and why its possibly even more humane then most spells in life and death situations even a spell that could set something on fire could be a worse way to go out.
Avada Kadavra could be merciful. What if someone is in so much pain that they are at the point of no return? You could put someone out of their misery.
Him: They can't be used for good- Also him: Imperio Golden trio: Using imperio for a good cause Eat slugs has no good causes unless its for- nah it isnt efficient
I whole heartedly disagree with your judgment of the unforgivable curses. you say fiend fiery is evil because it can only destroy, but avid kedavra can only kill an is somehow less evil? meanwhile imperio is the only curse that harry and friends actually use and its a rather tame situation compared to anything that would have warranted cruxio
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#1 must be "Eat Slugs!"
Y'know, given that Ron didn't really use an "incantation" in the typical sense, did he lowkey perform what should have been a perfect nonverbal spell in 2nd year? Like, it totally would have worked if his wand wasn't garbage.
I mean making your opponent puke for hours would be pretty effective in a duel
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I think the fact that Snape is probably the only one to know the counter curse for sectum sempra makes it even more dangerous
@@-scarlettmorgana I am aware of that yeah
Well no one else in the Order knew it or they would have used it on George's ear which probably would have helped.
I think it’s vulnera senentur
@@fatamuft1 yeah you're right
And then they just casually had Grindelwald use the same spell too in the newest movie. And also mention the spell as a healing spell, in year 2 of Hogwarts Mystery (game)
They feared Rons broken wand the most because it will send Dark Wizards to the hospital wing in a match box.
A truly terrifying wand.
Lol
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Real strongest wand
What about the spell that creates inferi? Dying is terrifying enough, but imagine having your body reanimated to be used against your will as someone else's thrall, who can make your corpse do harm onto others? That's terrible for both the living and the dead.
The soul is no longer in the body, so I dont think it would matter that much to the dead. I mean if they know, like if they can look on the world from the afterlife and see that it's being used, it may be disturbing, but they arent inside the body so perhaps not terrifying for them.
@@BladefireA The thought of that happening once you are dead should be enough to make it on the list, the fact that a dark wizard can make an army that isn't affected by poison or magic, only fire, should make it in the top 3.
@@monsterhunter6441 I never thought it shouldn't be on the list, I more think it just wouldnt be terrifying for the dead person because they're not in the body anymore. It's still absolutely horrifying for the living who have to face it, and disgusting and disturbing in general.
@@BladefireA You do make a fair point, but I'd still make it an honourable mention at least. Still though, evil or not, the idea of a magical army of what are essentially zombies sounds badass.
@@theredguy8746 oh absolutely. Terrifying and badass and evil all in one package.
Harry vs Voldemort : Expelliarmus!
Harry vs Draco: SECTUMSEMPRA!
very true lol
Shows us who Harry _really_ hates most, lol. He also tried it on Snape...but Voldy gets the Dueling 101 aattack
@@munstrumridcully Harry didn’t know what Sectumsempra was. He just wanted to try it out. Little that he know how deadly Sectumsempra can be. In the case of Snape, it was right after he killed Dumbledore.
@@sciencesociety2919 no I get it with snake definitely was Furious about Dumbledore and killed but the ultimate cause of that was Voldemort I just think it's funny that Voldemort is always using Avada Kedavra and Harry is just using either stupefy or most often Expelliarmus which are like beginner spells I just always wondered why they weren't using something a little bit you know with More power, like in the Muggle world it would be like using a 22 against Resident Evil Nemesis instead of a rocket launcher or Magnum or something you know what I mean?
@@munstrumridcully The irony here is that he uses a spell on his mortal enemy that was created and intended for his father.
I think harry gets a lot of heat for using sectum sempra on Draco. I feel like harry only used it because it was quoted “for enemies”. At that point harry had already suspected Draco being a death eater which was the very group who served the man bent on killing him. It may have been out of character for harry to use the curse but at least his logic makes sense
Also, when you're in the heat of the moment, you pretty much have to act without thinking.
Harry was in the middle of a duel with Malfoy, whom he considered a Death Eater (like you said). Death Eaters are more than capable and willing to commit evil deeds, so holding back against them is dangerous and will likely get you killed.
Malfoy also attempted to use the Cruciatus Curse on Harry during that fight, which is a LITERAL Unforgivable Curse. If he had succeeded, Harry would have been completely helpless.
So he had to act immediately. Sectumsempra was labelled "For Enemies" and Malfoy in that moment absolutely fit the criteria. And it's like what he said when Hermione questioned why he was defending the HBP: "It just said: For Enemies, it didn't say 'Try this out, it's really good'." There was absolutely no reason to suspect it was so malevolent, especially given how helpful all of the HBP's advice had been throughout the year.
I will also argue that Draco was going to use Crucio on Harry
I actually like the fact that Harry used Sectumsempra, Imperio and Crucio, as it is a way to show the readers that his character is not without flaws.
@@Maneru5978 yes not like a too goody goody who can't kill bad people I like he used the spell too
I might also add that he did not know the effects of the spell at that time, and that this incident showed him the effects of the spell
Love the list. The horocrux creation spell is also like a form of self torture. Leaving your soul behind is evil not just for the murder and suffering you inflict on others but also the pain you inflict on yourself by losing a part of your soul. Casting this spell indicates to me that the caster doesn't love themselves just as much as it indicates they hate other people.
Most misanthropes are secretly self loathing, and they tend to project their own bad qualities onto others.
Here is some logic. No one truly hates themselves. Over-eater feeds themselves whenever they desire food, would you feed someone you hate? Numb yourself to escape reality with drugs. Who helps someone they hate to escape?
The issue comes from a weak view of hatred which our society doesn't like, hate that is, but during WWII hating our enemies was encouraged, propagated and tolerated.
No one truly hates themselves, they drink when thirsty and eat when hungry, doesn't sound like true hate to me, does it to you? What the real issue is is that we hate what we do or have become because we have too high a view of ourselves and doing the things we supposedly hate refutes that view. When desire calls though we feed it. It's why alcoholics deny their alcoholism, they're too good a person to be a drunk. We have no discipline like parents who spoil their children.
Imagine reversing the spell. You have to feel true remorse and the pain in doing so.... most prefer death
Awful choices. I can easily think five more evil spells that are way more fearsome.
Im not sure. I get what you mean whit doesnt love himself but at the same time someone whos willing to split his sole just so he doesnt die must rly love himself
“Fiend fire can’t be used righteously” really because destroying horcrux seems pretty righteous to me!
Would you burn a building to the ground to destroy a Horcrux? Because that's the dilemma with Fiendfyre. Apart from the fact that Horcruxes are kinda rare, and I'm pretty sure the creator of the spell didn't aim to invent a Horcrux destruction charm.
@@leventebardossy5962 yep
@@leventebardossy5962 What if the building IS the horcrux?
@@beelzebubfangirl Might need a big chunk of soul for that one O.o
@@leventebardossy5962 Burn a building to destroy a horcrux? You're damn right I would. Mostly if the Horcrux is actively a threat to the people around it, if it isn't, then I'd simply take it to a more isolated location. Especially as Fiendfyre seems to be the most accessible method of destroying one.
Here are some arguments as to why most of these spells are not inherently evil, and can actually be used for good in certain circumstances:
5. *Sectumsempra* can be used as a surgical cutting spell, as well as for cutting up dead animals for meat. Also, as the counter-curse only heals flesh wounds, you can cut regular objects beyond magical repair, something which may prove useful in certain situations.
4. *Fiendfyre* is a cursebreaker's best friend, as it effectively disenchants any magical object it touches - it can take out dangerous traps in tombs, and destroy wardstones from a safe distance.
3. *Imperio* is a great tool for Mind Healers who want to prevent their patients from harming themselves or others. Aurors could also cast it at criminals to prevent them from fighting or fleeing. A farmer could use it as an alternative to a sheepdog.
2. *Crucio* could be used to try curing paralysis victims by stimulating the nerve endings. That's just conjecture though, otherwise I can't really defend it.
1. I can't really defend the creation of Horcruxes, but I would argue that it's much more likely to be a ritual than a spell, and therefore has no place on this list.
Some spells I would argue are equally (if not more) deserving of being in this list are:
1. The Transmogrifian Torture curse, assuming it does what it says on the tin - twisting and permanently altering the shape of the victim to inflict pain upon them. Then again, it follows suit that the counter to this curse would also be the same curse, and therefore it could be used for good.
2. The Entrail-Expelling curse, assuming it actually expels the entrails, and not what's contained within them. However, this curse could be used for processing dead animals, and it may actually just be a bowel-clearing spell (which would make sense, given its inventor was a Healer).
3. Legilimency literally allows you to tear through someone's mind and discover their darkest secrets and their deepest desires. While I do admit it could be used to communicate with mutes, if you need to see someone's memories, just use a pensieve!
4. Obliviation removes memories. Memories make a person who they are. Therefore, obliviation is bad. Super bad. Like, 'should be an Unforgivable curse' bad. Don't use it, not even on Muggles - just teach witches and wizards how to not be idiots in the Muggle world.
I like your way of thinking.
I agree with Imperio the most bcz it does have ways of being used for good in its own weird way, but I think Fiendfyre would literally destroy everything in its path including the curse, not only limited to the cursed object you want to disenchant so I have to agree with the videos perspective but really interesting take! I also thought about the Sectum Sempra surgical cuts, but I obvs dont know if you can make the cut less deep then it was portraied in the movies so I would probably not risk it lmao
Obliviation can be used to treat PTSD or to remove the memories of someone who committed terrible things under Imperio , and of course something that allows you to see into someone’s mind would be great for interrogating criminals.
@@egekazkayas8968 don't they have literal truth serum
Sorry to say, I completely disagree with your list.
5. There's no way an "invisible sword" can cut with surgical precision. Also, cutting an animal through hemorrhaging is so inhumane.
4. There's no such thing as a "safe distance" as it requires immense skill to control.
3. & 2. Unforgivable curses REQUIRE you to want to seriously maim a person to increase its effectiveness. You literally cannot defend/forgive them... it's in the name.
1. Just because it behaves like a ritual, does not disqualify it as a spell. Think of Draco mending the Vanishing Cabinet.
Good intentions but terrible counter-arguments.
I always found the term "Evil spell" funny. Because while some spells can be considered terrible due to their effect, in the wrong hand even some of the simplest of spells can be disgustingly evil.
There is the Dark Arts... and then there are the "dark arts" of using normal spells for terrible deeds. James Potter used that cleaning charm or what to almost choke Snape. The fire starting spell can be used to raze homes. Which is more painful, the one shot kill Avada Kedavra or getting wrecked by blasting charm, I wonder...
I think most spells are only as evil as the person who uses them. And we also judge spells based on who they are targeted at.
Well, I think the Dark Arts aren't called such just because they are dangerous. Put it this way: using the Killing Curse on someone _literally_ rips your _soul_ apart. Crucio isn't just some pain spell, you have to truly feel hatred, to be motivated not by justice, but a desire to make the other person suffer.
I’m pretty sure the killing curse doesn’t rip your soul, killing itself does, you could kill someone using sectumsempra and it would still count, it’s just that Voldemort uses avada kedavra
Descendo is probably the most brutal spell of all. Avada is great and all, but it's really quick and painless. Imagine your broken bones ripping through the skin as you're forced into the ground at terminal velocity... Descendo.
Fun fact about the unforgivable curses in harry potter harry used 2 out of 3 of them that being the torture curse and the mind control curse
when?
@@louis6063 I was confused with the crucio attempt
@@what-xn3lv well harry potter used the crucio curse on bellatrix lestrange when he was chasing her down after she killed Sirius black in the ministry of magic although she was only kicked off of her feet as stated by harry potter theory and in the it was harry potter first time useing that and later on in the series he would use the mind control curse on a grimmgots bank goblin employee to rob bellatrix lestrange bank vault as revenge for what she did to Sirius black
@@dustydurant2746 he didn't Rob the Lestrange bank as revenge for Sirius. He knew there was a horcrux in there due to Bellatrix shouting about being "his most trusted, his most loyal", plus the freaking out about someone having been in her vault and taking something other than the sword. 🙂
He used imperio to get into Gringotts and crucio twice once on Bellatrix (a failed atemt) and then on Carow as retaliation when he spat on McGonnagal.
I’m glad Avada Kedavra didn’t make this list. Voldemort used to curse for evil but Snape used it at the request of Dumbledore. The killing curse can be used both ways.
What makes the killing curse sinister is that it leaves no traces and the corpses looks shocked with open eyes which creates terror in the eyes of witness.
@@headstrongbachelor3152 Not only that but I think it also has to do with its instantaneous nature. With the exception of Harry it’s a spell that absolutely no one has any hope of recovering from if hit. While a spell like Sectumsempra is arguably more evil because of the damage it does to the body, it does at least have a counter and can be survived if treated properly. But with Avada Kedavra there is no hope, and I think that’s why it’s so feared and considered unforgivable when compared to other curses/spells.
@@DarkMaestro88 The killing curse is not only perfect to commit murder but also terrorism. Imagine come home and see the corpses of your family lies down with open eyes and terror in their faces.
The only one I disagree with is the imperius curse. Because you have control over someone doesn't mean you must command them to do something to their own detriment. I can't see it as intrinsically evil just because people use it for evil purposes. One could argue it's amoral, but evil seems a stretch to me. Great content though 👍🏾
Exactly, there are some good ways to use it. For example, you know someone who's seriously considering becoming a Death Eater, so to stop them you use the imperius curse on them and command them not to
you take others' free will. that's evil enough for me.
Maybe. The real trick in fighting the Imperius Curse is to recognize that it is in effect.
I see the argument that taking away someone's free will is evil but lots of spells could be said to do that: I don't want to drop my wand but Expelliarmus forces me to, I don't want to stand still but Petrificus Totalus makes me etc.
I agree that it can be used for good purposes: for example, Harry uses it three times getting into Gringotts and McGonagall uses it on Amycus Carrow to make him tie himself and his sister up.
This I can definitely see .
Harry used the spell as a result of instinct, he was reading Half Blood Prince's book everyday and he came across the spell a lot. He wanted to try it out, but wasn't able to. Then when Draco was dueling with Harry, Draco was about to use the Cruciatus Curse on Harry. therefore he, Harry, used the spell.
As for Sectumsempra: Harry could have never predicted what Sectumsempra did. And as Ginny said to Hermione, Harry was defending himself from a potentially Unforgivable Curse in a duel that he didn’t start. Therefore, it’s fair game to fight fire with fire.
Do they not learn about spells in Hogwarts though? Surely there must be a class on word pronouncation and the etymology ( meaning behind the words).
I mean when Snape created the spell, surely he didn't pull the words from nowhere, and must have known the meaning behind them ( to cut etc). Harry could have easily looked that up in the library?
@@steveozone4910 they do learn spells at Hogwarts, but not Sectumsempra. They learn about Unforgivables but they’re not taught how to cast them. Draco probably learned how to cast it outside of Hogwarts.
@@steveozone4910 and he could have looked them up, but he had a lot of other stuff on his mind. Like I said, Sectumsempra’s actual purpose was something Harry couldn’t have even imagined.
@@briesullivan883 I wasn't in disagreement with your logic, just how my brain works. The world has to be based on sense and logic, even a fantasy world.
I know J.K used Latin words to make her spells. Whether they used Latin within the actual world I do not know. But there must have been some understanding needed to create a spell you know, like the words mean something.
@@steveozone4910 of course it does. I’m just saying that it’s realistic for Harry to miss a few things here and there. Contrary to what most people say, Harry is usually very observant, but he can’t notice everything because no one notices everything around them. We take in the details that are most pertinent to what we are dealing with. If I’m driving to work, I’m not going to notice the bird’s nest in the tree on the side of the road. I’m paying attention to the stop signs, red lights etc. And when we have a lot on our mind like Harry did in the 6th book, we are likely to miss things that are right in front of us.
I also gotta mention that part "it cant be used righteosly". Well, basically there is a way. And it is to destroy a dark wizard's existing horcrux to end his tyranny.
Talking about Fiendfyre
A similar case could be argued for imperio. Moreso since imperio was used for that reason deliberately (Gringotts break in), while Fiendfyre was used to kill , with such destruction being unintentional and convenient. Not to say one couldn't use it intentionally for a righteous purpouse, but it'd be a very niche case.
@@ratdude747 Tbh I don't get why Legilimens isn't illegal it's literally a mind probe. Sure there's a way to block it but that doesn't seem to be common knowledge.
Sectumempra too - Snape used it to fool the death eaters without killing anyone
@@BlackangelKatakuri is it legal? Doesn't seem like it is very widely practiced if it is.
@@brolytriplethreat It is literally taught in schools in later years, so yes, it is. The reason why it isn't widely practiced is that Legilimency and Occlumency are complex to practice at all, and very difficult to master. Most people aren't good at it, so they don't tend to use it all that much if at all.
Your Hp videos are the best out there! Really! Your voice paired with how you organize each topic - top tier!!
Sectum Sempra is not always dark. Like a gun, it is a tool. It may be used to murder or defend from being murdered.
If you are in a fight for your life or the lives of loved ones it is certainly a valid spell to stop the threat.
I thought it was dope and malfoy had it coming.
So is Avada Kadavra. If you are fighting for your life or defending loved ones. Nothing is off the table. B
Plus it has a countercurse.
@@michaelsamu7082 i think its more because it is so easy to acctualy cast the spell.
Is a gun 'evil'?
Interesting list. I have to agree about #1, the killing curse is used for battle (evil, of course) but a horcrux creation is death to the innocent
And tears apart the user's soul.
Also the killing curse can be used for mercy killing so in a way its righteous aswell
@@adamwoollin7068 And the tortur curse can also be used for good such as forcing evil terrorists to reveal information that can save human lives...
killing curse is prob the most safest way to die.
no pain no suffering
@@headstrongbachelor3152 theres potions that make you spill all your secrets without even hurting someone. Plus it wont work if you use it like you suggested. It only works if you want to torture someone for the sake of torturing someone
*Godric*: Now we have built the school, we have just enough magic left to protect it from one spell. I propose Avada Kedavra.
*Helga*: Oh gosh, I think I'd rather be killed than tortured with the Cruciatus curse!
*Rowena*: We must consider the Imperius curse. With it comes much evil.
*Salazar*:(casting) _protego disaparatium_
'disaparatium' is not a Latin word
@@verylostdoommarauder Neither are a fair portion of the spells in Harry Potter.
I don't get it
@@anshugarg6353 The anti-apparation wards around Hogwarts. You know, that really inconvenient prevention of any teleportation, which makes it harder to flee if the school is under attack?
@@khajiitimanus7432
Oh yeah
I forgot about that
The love potion (though it is a potion) it did create Voldemort after all
Good list, really enjoyed this. The inclusion of the Horcrux spell as #1 was a nice turn, as I felt the video was straying towards the killing curse, only to be pleasantly surprised.
Nice spoiler. Luckily it was pretty a obvious #1 as only 2 wizards have ever succeeded as far as we know.
@@MrEpicdary if you dont want a spoiler watch the video before reading the comments lol this is where people discuss the video's content.
@@BladefireA It's right there. Before the video plays, I can see the top comment. Maybe your peripherals don't reach, but they spoiled for me.
You can discuss the video without explicitly naming parts of the video (spells in this case) too, you know. Everyone that has watched it will understand you.
@@MrEpicdary I can see the top comment but I make a conscious effort to not read it if I havent watched the video yet. Usually works.
People shouldnt have to tip toe around the discussion to make sure no one gets any spoilers. If someone is worried about spoilers they should make a conscious effort to not read the top comment. Like click the video and then immediately pull up to turn it full screen so you dont even have the chance to see the comment if you cant filter it out otherwise.
Personally, I feel that their are only 3 really pure evil spells in Harry Potter:
1. Horcrux spell. You're have to commit pre-mediated, willful murder of an innocent for your own selfish interests. No defense for that.
2. Crucio. The only justifiable excuse for torture is to get information. But since Imperio exists, torture has no purpose in the HP universe other than to satisfy sadists.
3. Inferi spell: You turn your innocent victims into undead slaves for you. Not justification for that either.
Avada Kadavra and Imperio can be used for moral purposes (As seen by Snape and Potter). Meanwhile, Fiendfyre could be uses to destroy a horcrux (which is something good).
Sectumsempra can be healed if you want to show mercy.
Pretty sure inferi’s souls are not still within their body, so their chilling in wherever wizards go when they die. I saw a theory about crucio could be used to help paralyzed people, by triggering their nerves or something. I agree, and sectumsempra can be used for other things then attacking humans
@@az1202 But still though, using a dead person’s body as basically a servant for you is entirely evil
@@dewuster8885 true
"The only justifiable excuse for torture is to get information"
What?
@@der_sebbl I think against someone evil, like a death eater
True! I never thought of Avada Kedavra as really evil. It’s more evil to stab someone with a knife because the person would feel pain, with Avada Kedavra they just die instantly.
Avada kedavra could also be used with good intentions.
Like killing game for food mercifully and could be argued for as a self defense spell.
@@Gokkee the problem is don't the Unforgivable Curses require genuine hatred behind them? I remember that Cruciatus at least does
@@brolytriplethreat that is something i cannot answer ^^
@@brolytriplethreat crucio and avada kedavra do, imperiato just needs strong intent
Luckily I'm highly pain tolerant. 😏
When you think that Harry successfully cast 3 spells on this list (Sectumsempra, Imperio and Crucio).
Fair list, however, if the criteria to make it onto the list is that the spells cannot be used in a righteous way, I'd disagree with Imperio and Fiendfyre.
Imperio - We see McGonagall use Imperio to prevent the Carrows from interfering when they are preparing the castle's defences for the final battle. We also see Harry use Imperio on the Goblin (Bogrod) and Travers in order to break into a Death Eater controlled Gringotts to steal the horcurx. To me, using the spell in order to get past the defences guarding apart of Voldemort's soul required to be destroyed in order to end the war is a righteous use of the spell.
Fiendfyre - In the Horcrux Creation Spell part of the video, the book calls the horcrux the "wickedest of magical inventions". Fiendfyre could be used to destroy a horcrux, and would have been if Hermione was confident that she could control it. This is a righteous use.
Well, doing bad things to reach good results doesn't make the things you did not bad, it just means they were necessary evils
Well hermione couldn’t have controlled it, for it requires a very powerful wizard to control it matter of fact I personally think that only wizards like voldy, dumbledore and grindewald could control it completely being confident isn’t enough to control such a spell
Rowling added a degree of balance to the mix. Spells can have recoil, and the darker the spell the darker the effect on the caster.
Also I wouldn't consider Sectum Sempra to be a "dark" spell. It doesn't require hate or dark intent nor it is particularly evil.
That recoil depends on the individual and their skill mostly
True...look at Bella. Her favourite spell is the cruciatas and it's literally drove her insane
@@adamwoollin7068 are you sure you don't have that backwards? That it is her favorite spell _because_ she's a psychopath?)
@@brolytriplethreat could be a feedback loop.
I just think it's funny that the emo, racist kid that got picked on in school made a "school stabbing" spell.
If it were america, the spell would be magical bullets, not slashes I think lol
I know this spell wasn't used in any of the HP films but "Protego Diabolica" used in Fantastic beasts by Grindelwald was exceptionally powerful too
I have a theory that all things in magic have a balance. Specifically regarding the torture curse. If one was skilled enough one could create a pleasure curse, one so powerful that to live without its effects would be in of itself "torture". Thereby creating a means for a wizards brothel where wizards and witches could go to experience extreme pleasure muted only by a memory potion given after to prevent addiction or the adverse feeling of being tortured when not under the effects of the curse.
Injecto Heroinicus
@@hevy6 Masturo baturo
I don't think "Vulnera Santentur" is a specific counter-charm to Sectumsempra, as it's just Latin for "wounds are being healed". I think this just works for any cuts/wounds, including those done by Sectumsempra
Love the video an always love when you use this background music
HPT: “No-go.”
Subtitles: “Go-to.”
Weird for dark wizards to be scared of these curses, even though they use them constantly.
They know what those spells do and how bad they can be so it's not weird for them to fear it coz the same spells they like to use can be used against them too
The entrails expelling curse should be on this list
For me, nothing tops Crucio. The effect on the longbottoms is genuinely stomach turning, a fate far worse than death.
Harry got away with cursing Beletrix because it was done in the Minestry of Magic. Not to mention Harry could have claimed a bit of temporary insanity because the one that it was used on killed the casters last magical family member rite in front of him... Sirius... Not to mention attention at the end of that time had went from Harry & Dumbledore to the physical proof of Voldemort by the Minestry.
I mean it was used on death eaters so i don't think that it would be Punshiable
Can you do a video on what would have happened if Peter Pettigrew didn’t escape at the end of POA and was brought to Fudge? How would Fudge have handled it? Would he have complied with Dumbledore and brought Peter to justice? Would there be mass investigations on those in Azkaban during that time? Or would Peter have still gotten away en route to the Ministry and Azkaban- either on accident or on purpose on Fudge’s part? If the latter, I think Fudge would likely disguise it as an ‘accident’.
As far as how it would be rewritten to make it happen(for fanfic purposes) if Peter was truly brought to justice and didn’t escape, I think the story could be reworked to have Barty Crouch Jr fighting off the Imperious Curse sooner, attaining a wand while pretending to be under the Imperious Curse (probably stealing his father’s in the middle of the night), and escaping.
However I think Peter Pettigrew likely escapes due to Fudge’s incompetence or he “escapes” because Fudge wants to cover up the truth. Thus the timeline for Voldemort’s return and the Ministry’s reaction stays intact and it could intensify Fudge’s desire to discredit Dumbledore.
I think Dumbledore would know what he was dealing with regarding Fudge. Thus I think he would have secured evidence of Sirius’ innocence in case if something like that happened. Dumbledore would be able to prove Sirius’ innocence in a court of law like he did with Harry in the beginning of Book 5, but Fudge would have mobilized the Daily Prophet to stir up enough propaganda about Sirius to make enough of the public doubt Dumbledore. Fudge’s denial about Voldemort at the end of Book 4 and throughout Book 5 and the subsequent propaganda about Dumbledore and Harry in Book 5 happen just like in the OG.
Or Peter could escape because he is an animagus just like Sirius so the story would continue as the original.
@@aleksaradulovic2481 yes but Fudge would have known about Peter being an animagus, so they’d use magic to prevent Peter from transforming. That said Fudge could “accidentally” undo the magic.
I have been waiting for this
I'd put that dark spell dolohov used on Hermione in book 5. Always thought that one was really powerful
8:55. No. Lethal injection is actually said to have the ability to be quite painful. In some cases when it fails. It’s very painful.
I remember Magic Awakened game feature young students dueling with another using those dark spells, it's so funny to see them use, just as hearing them saying "Avada Kedavra"
Amazing job on the video as always. I was pleasantly surprised by no1.🧙♂️
The spell to create a living life like portrait of yourself is pretty evil,and from my understand traps the soul of someone inside of,why you think the portraits can freely move around from one portrait to another's at will..
The creation spell of the dementors who literally suck the essence from you living you with your worst terrors unimaginable
The portraits are like moving pictures, the thing that traps the soul, is called a horcrux. If the portraits trapped a part of the soul, no one would need horcruxes. Harry is given pictures of his parents, they move too, despite his parents being dead.
Right when I saw the tittle of the video the first spell that came to my head was fiend fire it just a really powerful spell , and it has nearly no ways to get rid of it, and like you said I can also destroy a horcrux. Love the video!! :)
You gotta wonder how Slughorn even knows about horcruxes though...
And Regulus Black at the age of 18!
Slughorn travelled all around.
He definitely met Dark wizards.
And himself wasn't less than a Dark wizard just difference is he didn't used it for evil works.
Therefore he may have met Herpo the Foul, only known Horcrux creator.
He maybe alive.
As we don't know if his Horcrux is destroyed.
Also Dumbledore may too knew Horcrux arts as he was a smart old gangsta.
In his youth, he too have been searching for Deathly hallows, could be also knew about Herpo and Horcruxes, just refused to do it.
Possibilities are Unlimited.
How can Imperio be seen as worse than Avada Kedavra? I would say the opposite. You said yourself in the beginning of the clip that for a spell to enter this list it had to be entirely evil, not just that it can be used in an evil way while others use it for good. In the books imperio is used multiple times to do good, not evil, while Avada Kedavra is only used to murder. I agree that Avada Kedavra is more merciful than Crucio and Sectumsempra, since they are so much more painful. But murder still ends a life and thereby renders the victim's family and friends in grief, so it's still evil. And the spell is never used for good purposes throughout the books, only for evil.
Imperio **can** be used for good though. If someone wanted to do something horrible to themselves or innocent people, you could instantly stop them by using the imperius curse and ordering them not to do it, and even create an extremely positive impact by giving them a whole bunch of helpful commands that would make them do the opposite of whatever harmful things you forced them not to do. I'd make Death Eaters kill dementors and Voldemort under the imperius curse and make Umbridge undo all the evil laws she created at the Ministry of Magic, then make her do something she'd be fired for so she wouldn't have a position of power anymore after I stopped controlling her. Another cool option would be in the wizarding world entertainment industry, something kinda like a stage hypnotist comedy act but with magic instead, where the caster consensually forces cast members volunteers from the audience to do silly things during the show and releases them as soon as it's over.
5:07 Oh cool Invisible Curses! the enemy will never see them coming!
Never thought about it but harry all unforgivable curses used on him
Avada Kedavra by Voldemort
Crucio by Voldemort
Imperio by madeye moody (in the books 📚)
Actually, Voldemort has cast Imperio on him too. In the graveyard in the fourth book.
@@filipaleksandermoen7125 oh I gotta go back and read that part thought he only used crucio and avada kedavra
Great video. I would love to finally hear how to create a horcrux. All acedimc Professor. 🐍
Before watching: If you put Avada Kadavra on the top spot, that's kind of cheating. Besides, Crucio is worse
After watching: Ok
Lethal Injection doesn't kill instantly. I have no idea where you got that idea.
You forgot the Transmogrifian Torture Curse, which is pretty much like the muggle rack, but magic.
Lethal injection isn't painless...
They just use an anesthetic so you can move. People who have survived the cocktail say it's like your blood is boiling and everything in the body is screaming. They can't move though so it's not merciful at all. A bullet to the dome is the fastest, cheapest, and most effective way to go. And it's merciful. Out go the lights... unless the gunman decides to be a jerk and "misses" the brain the first time around.
Great video!
For me the list would go like this...
#1 creating the Inferi
#2 making a horcrux
#3 the imperius/cruciatus curse
#4 Protego Diabolica
#5 Fiendfyre
Avatar Kedavra: Am I joke to you😂
I don't see how you can say Fiendfyre has no noble application after just explaining that it's a way to destroy horcruxes. Sounds pretty noble to me.
I disagree when you suggest Harry isn't messed uo enough to use Crucio. Hed really is. Let me explain. Firstly he spent mostly all of his childhood being practically tortured and absused by his Dursley family, lived under the stairs, abused, ignored, you get the jist. He had lost his parents to brutal and cruel murder before he was even past his infant years and grew up into a strict, extreme and punishing set of rules and lifestyle. Harry was for the msot part a brillaint person with agood heart sure but good doesn't not equil the intentions to be bad in a sense. he was able to use Sectumsempra a spell virtually no one knows outside of Snape with the intentions to kill Malfoy if he could have done if he did seem worried after using it he hardly didn't not understand its nature as he had the Half Blood Princes book of spells to even learn it in the first place. He watched Bellatrix Le-Strange assassinate his last honourable family member (outside of her and him being related) in cold blood right before his eyes and chased her to fight her and ultimately kill her or torture her if he could to Crucio her. The reason I disagree is simply because. Sure he had a good natured heart, yes he wasn't a legit killer at first hand but- And but. He was a tortured soul who had been throught the depths of hell and back who genuine wanted to destroy Bellatrix there and then if he could have even in the books. It simply came down to the fact that he'd just seen some one he loves be brutally murdered and was in shock, disbelief, scardd, angry, confused- Well he had every emotion running through him at the exact same time all at once which is conflicting. He also had very little if any experience in using such a curse on anyone per say which lead to it faiiling. The fact it didn't backfire and he was albe to even cast it in the first place suggests he did mean it, his wand wasn't holding back and if he had better expoerience using Crucio and had a broarder knowledge of darker magic he'd ave done anumber on her with it if he was older and less conflicted. You should do a video ragarding meaning, spells and why some fail due to emotions rather than intent. :)
I strongly believe Harry Potter is more than capible of casting a realistic Crucio under the right cirucumstances rahter than he cannot becuase he's not ill hearted.
Just because he was high on angry emotions, and has a past of being personally abused, doesn’t mean that he personally is a “messed up” enough person to do the spell properly. That’s why it didn’t even work at the peak of his angriest moment.
The reason why Death Eaters can do it even if they don’t have a past as bad as Harry’s or aren’t angry at the time, is because they’re genuinely messed up people who love to torture. That’s not who Harry is, and hence the spell didn’t have the full impact.
It’s like the patronus charm. You need to be the type of person who can conjure a happy memory. Some Death Eaters can’t do the spell because they don’t have memories like that, but rather see just so messed up that they can kill or torture with the flick of a wand.
He uses it on Carrow in the books.
As Fiendfyre obviously can be controlled by a skilled witch or wizzard (it seems not only Voldemort could but the Carrows seem to be able too and they seem not to be the brightest either and Dumbledore could stopp Voldemorts) and it can destroy dangerous dark objects it might actually be a quite useful spell for an auror. But one might practice it at a remote place with somebody skilled and powerful there to help and perform Dumbledores fire extinguisher spell in case it goes wrong.
I feel like when Harry used Sectum Sempra on Malfoy without knowing what it even does would've made it stronger. It is reckless just to wave a wand that isn't connected to you but casting a spell you don't know is on a whole different level.
Well I mean malfoy tried to use the crucio on him so I don't think harry did anything wrong in using the sectumsempra in the heat of the moment draco deserved that
I like that Avada Kadava was not on this list.
It's like there playing with a bunch of big guns when they shoot those green sparks.
Hardly the evilest of things.
Don't forget that "purple spell" that Dolohov uses on Hermione at the Ministry of Magic in Order of the Phoenix. I don't know if it had a name but it was supposedly his specialty and Hermione was very injured by it.
It was never named unfortunately but yeah that curse us bad juju
The one thing not mentioned is returning a spell back to the caster. I return this spell to thee. By the laws of 3 times 3. This is a spell that returns a curse or spell back to the caster threefold or three times as strong so depending on which spell curse or charm is used and it's returned back to the caster could probably make it worse than any of the other spells on this list. And the incantation is spoken three times it also has to include thought and intent. I'm surprised that this was never mentioned in the Harry Potter universe. This spell can be performed with or without a wand.
Self-contradiction: fiendfyre does have at least one "righteous" use as you pointed out in the video - to destroy a horcrux. It's possibly the only means readily available to a wizard to do so, as not everyone is going to have access to basilisk venom.
Something tells me Avada Kedavra could also be used to destroy a horcrux.
@@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets I think Hermoine says so in Deathly Hallows, but she would never, even if was to destroy a horcrux, think of using it.
Personally I never understood why Avadakedavra was considered as "unforgivable". To me, it's far more merciful than Imperio or Crucio.
When this video was originally uploaded, I remember being surprised that only two of the Unforgivable Curses were on the list until the Horcrux creation spell came up.
Most be some really WICKED spells. Someone should make some songs about these evil villains
I like how Severus snape was the one who made a spell that *severs* human limbs, also isn’t sectumsempra just a buffed diffindo?
I’d think that transfiguration torture would be at least on the list,or the entrails expelling curse.
Avada Kadavra kills instantly
I always thought it cuts the connection between soul and body.
Wow love that quote at the end was that Dumbledore?
I heard of one, the Entrail Expelling Curse. That one would be painful and EXTREMELY messy. 🤢🤮
I think out of one of the most painful spells, I take the Sectumsempra.
9:00 Arvada kedavera is actually painless. So if one were killed by it at least it would be with no Pain
I would love to learn Fiend fire
Avada Kedavra is stated to kill instantly and completely painlessly. It's surprisingly 'kind', as far as murder weapons go.
Compare it to using spells such as those mentioned above, or others like Bombarda, Confringo, Diffindo, Expulso, Reducto... or the Transmogrifian Torture curse, if it exists.
Technically we don't "know" that murder is "required" for this to work, all we know is that it requires the splitting of ones soul and murder will do that, there may be other ways, we just don't know them.
Legal injection doesn't kill Instantly or painlessly. It actually takes around 20-40 minutes, with the first injection paralyzing and stilling the person, but they can very much hear, feel, think. It then sends a second drug, thus drug is like liquid fire to the nervous system, then the final drug, which hopefully works quickly, this one stops your lungs , it's like a hand that suddenly grabs them and causes them to convulse and stop drawing breath. Legal injection is painless for the viewer, not the person being Injected, this is a common misdirection, it's not messy, loud, or unsettling fir the viewer, but it's not painless or Instant at all, the person just can't move or scream, they can't communicate the agony of this injection. People who have used these drugs beforehand have described them, as does any research into them individually.
What is the music?
I DISAGREE ABOUT SNAPE INVENTING SECTUMSEMPRA! ADDITIONALLY I DON'T THINK IT BELONGS ON THIS LIST AS EVIL!!! Also I don't think Fiendfyre deserves on this list either because it can be used for good.
I don’t know that I would put Imperio on the list. The evil isn’t in the spell but in the intent of the caster. For example Harry used it to get the Huffelpuff cup horcrux. Since it doesn’t intrinsically harm the target I would argue it doesn’t belong on this list.
Crucio is definitely very torturous, but to one can easily get away without a life sentence, Voldemort cast a lightning spell once he took possession of the Elder Wand. If anyone knows that spell, aurors noticed it's not Crucio in nature, but a new one called Force Lightning.
I have a theory regarding horcruxes, and here it is:
I think that while horcruxes provide immortality, the cost is far more extreme than ever imaginable. I think that when the owner of a horcrux reaches their age of death (which is predestined by fate), they stay alive, but barely. As they were supposed to die, their body starts to decay, and what remains would be like that little grotesque baby thing in Kings Cross when Harry is hit by Voldemort's killing curse in DH. As Slughorn said, death would be a better option, and it shows how evil you would have to be to make horcruxes. I guess, after you 'die', the only way to restore your body would be to drink some Elixir of Life. Imagine living forever, but being helpless for most of it, barely alive, and physically decayed, your split soul just barely anchoring you to this world.
Of course, we have no way of proving that this happened due to only two people ever creating horcruxes either dying too young (Voldemort), or going into hiding forever (Herpo the Foul).
You are a great RUclipsr!
I think that making a Horcrux *might* involve unicorn blood, but this is also just a theory...
I disagree on Imperio. Like you said in the beginning it matters HOW you use it. Harry and McGonnagal used it for better causes
So "Sectumsempra" should be the 4th unforgivable curse, a step above "Crucio".
Snape used Imperio to charm that dude into coming up with the idea for 7 potters. Not a totally evil spell
Can you make a video about all the times Harry used unforgivable curses and why he was never punished?
You can use the killing curse to kill an animal that you plan on eating like a chicken pig or corn and it will do so with no pain. It's kinda like a gun if you use it to kill an animal for food that's one thing but if you use it to kill a person that is something completely different.
About the only good thing I can think of That Fiend Fire could be used for is to destroy a Horcruxe .
If you know Latin, you don't need to memorize spells. You could just say what you want to happen in Latin and it will automatically work.
i would put crucio above avadakedavra. Desiring to cause pain for pains sake is worse than instant painless death.
According to an interview with J K Rowling she told her publishing agent the full Horcrux making process including the unknown most unforgivable disturbing bit she's not told many and he was almost sick.
Ah yes the “killing curse” isn’t even on this list when it called the “killing” curse which literally sends you to heaven
To me, the killing curse is the least extreme of the unforgivable curses simply because it could even be used in a merciful way. Let's say, especially in the war, you have someone near you in excruciating pain and there is no way to save them. They will die and they will die slowly and in agony. I would argue it would be more merciful to cast the killing curse than to leave them suffering. I know I would rather a person do that to me. It could also be used, if the person consents to it and is of sound mind to make the decision, as a form of euthanasia for those suffering long-term and knowing they will die with no chance of survival. They may choose to have it performed on them to save them from a far worse death. I know this is an opinion many may disagree with. But to me, the killing curse doesn't HAVE to be wholly evil.
The cruciatus curse is, in my opinion, the spell that is truly evil.
One could even argue that the imperious curse could be used for good - a loose example being using it on someone who is about to cause serious harm. I'm aware there would be other measures, but I'm talking if nothing else works.
I can’t believe u didn’t include
⭐️Protego Diabolica⭐️
Unless I'm missing something I never really saw the killing curse as evil depending on the person who casts it and why its possibly even more humane then most spells in life and death situations even a spell that could set something on fire could be a worse way to go out.
Avada Kadavra could be merciful. What if someone is in so much pain that they are at the point of no return? You could put someone out of their misery.
I feel like imperio shouldn’t be on the list because it can be used for „good“ things. I would’ve put the entrail expelling curse on the list though
How about selcharmed Slug-Vomiting Charm (Slugulus Eructo), or as would Ron say: "Eat slugs!" 😂😂😂
Him: They can't be used for good-
Also him: Imperio
Golden trio: Using imperio for a good cause
Eat slugs has no good causes unless its for- nah it isnt efficient
I whole heartedly disagree with your judgment of the unforgivable curses.
you say fiend fiery is evil because it can only destroy, but avid kedavra can only kill an is somehow less evil?
meanwhile imperio is the only curse that harry and friends actually use and its a rather tame situation compared to anything that would have warranted cruxio