The Story of Ekrizdis (The Dementor's Creator) - Harry Potter Theory

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  • @HarryPotterTheory
    @HarryPotterTheory  4 года назад +2037

    Though the Ministry of Magic employees who first visited Azkaban never revealed what they saw, they did reveal that Dementor's were the 'least frightening' things within the island fortress. So...What did they find?

    • @beckygould7509
      @beckygould7509 4 года назад +217

      Probably dead and dying sailors ! Many in horrible pain and in grotesque condition.

    • @diamondsword8608
      @diamondsword8608 4 года назад +347

      Homework

    • @sadiesstuff4270
      @sadiesstuff4270 4 года назад +72

      @@diamondsword8608 xD the only explanation

    • @spacequeen1447
      @spacequeen1447 4 года назад +70

      @@diamondsword8608 NNOOOO!!! DON'T MENTION THAT! IT IS THE SCARIEST THING EVER!

    • @dean2656
      @dean2656 4 года назад +91

      Muggles, made almost immortal, in constant torture. Or them turning into the things themselves.

  • @vishwaksenan5035
    @vishwaksenan5035 4 года назад +1839

    "The worst thing about prison was.... was the dementors"
    - Prison Mike.

    • @leeroberts4850
      @leeroberts4850 4 года назад +10

      Thats not really a joke, being in jail feels like their are tormentors on the train

    • @Kweesee
      @Kweesee 4 года назад +57

      They were flying everywhere, and it hoooiiiit!

    • @pubgplayer1720
      @pubgplayer1720 3 года назад +49

      @@leeroberts4850 Props to you for not being able to take an Office joke lmao.

    • @Rizzy313
      @Rizzy313 3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @RogueCentury
      @RogueCentury 3 года назад +2

      Lol :)

  • @xonrob9575
    @xonrob9575 4 года назад +4378

    I feel like Ekrizdis tortured the muggles so harshly that this kind of suffering hasn’t been recreated to date. So their pain, anguish, and despair were so extreme that it took on a symbolic, physical form - a dementor. I think that’s why they’re basically immortal; they’re more of a concept/idea rather than a legitimate beast and the only way to combat them is with another non-physical spell- a happy memory.

    • @noellealexandra726
      @noellealexandra726 4 года назад +303

      Yeah! Peeves the Poltergeist was created out of mischief and pranks in a similar way and there is very little anyone (except the Bloody Baron) can do with him

    • @suvd2483
      @suvd2483 4 года назад +22

      Woooooooooow

    • @alexcavoli6191
      @alexcavoli6191 4 года назад +144

      Yeah I thought similarly, except they turn into the Dementors upon death and new dememntors are made every time someone dies when they are around and the emotional conditions are right.

    • @jackswan3420
      @jackswan3420 4 года назад +20

      @@alexcavoli6191 Interesting theory! My new headcanon

    • @zagorith14
      @zagorith14 4 года назад +12

      Makes sense. Quite like that theory.

  • @jinpachibobochan3532
    @jinpachibobochan3532 4 года назад +652

    My guess is that the guy experimented with soul magic, and the literally tortured his victims until their souls began to crack, like a pearl. Then he enchanted the bodies to act as vessels and used some kind of necromancer magic to make the body undead and immortal, with additional abilities that made the Demetor what it is today. And as for the soul, the damage done to it by the horrific abuse of the victim evokes a drastic urge of hunger and pain in the Dementors, plaguing them with the intense urge to devour souls so they can repair their own. Additionally, the torture twisted their minds into hate-driven shades of their former selves, and they devour positive feelings out of their surroundings by drowning the area with a soul-freezing aura of pure, undiluted malice and hatred.
    Werewolves are most likely a designer product as well that were created by some madman that only wanted to see the world burn. Sure, there are people like Remus Lupin, but most werewolves are of a chaotic and destructive nature.

    • @kevinmacdonald9269
      @kevinmacdonald9269 4 года назад +11

      Fudge specifically says that they breed in book 6. If they were the souls of victims experimented on they wouldn't breed and would be created

    • @GrimRuler
      @GrimRuler 4 года назад +37

      @@kevinmacdonald9269 they don’t exactly “breed”, they’re basically the embodiment of despair, spreading it wherever they go. As more despair spreads through the area, more are “born”/created

    • @TheBrickBuildingEnthusiast
      @TheBrickBuildingEnthusiast 4 года назад +19

      I'm not even gonna call this a theory, this is canon for my liking.

    • @13thmistral
      @13thmistral 3 года назад +23

      @@kevinmacdonald9269 Unless dementors, once in dark places with no happyness and only an aura of despair, end up multiplyin in an act of pure desperation, if they stay there to long. What if they actually try to, in a final way to get rid of their inner hunger for souls, to lose parts of themselves, and that part they get rid off, is actually the seed of an other dementor.
      Seriously, thinking about it in that direction is some serious SCP-level stuff....

    • @notyourproblem474
      @notyourproblem474 3 года назад +5

      @@13thmistral This and the op comment, are canon for me now. This is so dark and brilliant.

  • @ericsilverperson4611
    @ericsilverperson4611 4 года назад +2261

    Do you know how the Dementors first came into being? They were muggles once. Taken by a dark wizard. Tortured and mutilated. A ruined and terrible form of life.

    • @prabhjot1986able
      @prabhjot1986able 4 года назад +190

      Just like Orcs of the Tolkien world

    • @ghosthowl38
      @ghosthowl38 4 года назад +144

      @@TheNinthGeneration1 nazghul were not tortured into creation, they fell to temptation and became cursed.

    • @TheNinthGeneration1
      @TheNinthGeneration1 4 года назад +11

      @@ghosthowl38 semantics, either way they are entities of chaos and death wherever they go

    • @hasinaacter4686
      @hasinaacter4686 4 года назад +71

      @@TheNinthGeneration1 Yes I find the nazgul exceptionally resembling dementors.
      (Except Nazguls are drawn to the ring not happiness )

    • @TheNinthGeneration1
      @TheNinthGeneration1 4 года назад +9

      @@hasinaacter4686 a notable difference

  • @MauriceGucci
    @MauriceGucci 4 года назад +4778

    “think of a dark wizard or witch”
    me: okay I’ll take the most sinister witch of all time - Dolores Umbridge

  • @drwho9319
    @drwho9319 2 года назад +620

    The creator of this video missed 1 important point that really frustrated me. Ekrizdis also made 2 boys on that island to torture the muggles. The 2 boys are fully tatted, outside looking muggle-like, inside, they have the power of the sirens that make songs to lure muggles. They are called the island boys

  • @Hello-cy9er
    @Hello-cy9er 4 года назад +2068

    Long live the Prisoner of Azkaban film, you will be forever remembered for your great cinematography and your importance in the transition of Harry Potter shifting from light to dark. You were not a part of my childhood, you are my childhood.

    • @nemonomen3340
      @nemonomen3340 4 года назад +45

      And screw Mike Newell who was going to follow the same mood until he realized Alfonso Cuaron had already done that and Mike wanted to best him. So we got a teenage rom-com.

    • @DJPurpleOne17
      @DJPurpleOne17 4 года назад +68

      The Prisoner of Azkaban, though it was a PG movie, it was actually kinda dark and tbh it kinda scared me as a kid lol

    • @ekimguneykose8730
      @ekimguneykose8730 4 года назад +34

      @@nemonomen3340 Alfonso Cuaron was the best thing that happened to Harry Potter universe.

    • @zleo7054
      @zleo7054 4 года назад +26

      POA had the best looking Dementors. The ones that followed looked a mess to me

    • @DJPurpleOne17
      @DJPurpleOne17 4 года назад +19

      @@zleo7054 agreed, the Dementors as of Order of the Phoenix look like skeletons

  • @TurnipCart
    @TurnipCart 4 года назад +581

    I'm surprised the investigative team came back alive honestly.

    • @ilovecheetos4098
      @ilovecheetos4098 3 года назад +19

      Same here. They probably just fled.

    • @JoeNathanWhite
      @JoeNathanWhite 3 года назад +43

      @@ilovecheetos4098 Tbh they are probably experienced in facing dark arts, especially artefacts and beasts as its their daily life investigating dark sources of magic, they are probably even better suited then a team of talented aurors.

    • @ilovecheetos4098
      @ilovecheetos4098 3 года назад +23

      @@JoeNathanWhite Sure but back then, the patronus charm (the only way to defend yourself against dementors) wasn't supposed to be a thing.

    • @jacobbailey6134
      @jacobbailey6134 3 года назад +9

      @@ilovecheetos4098 there is a chance the team wasn’t attacked, and didn’t engage the creatures

    • @ilovecheetos4098
      @ilovecheetos4098 3 года назад +3

      @@jacobbailey6134 indeed

  • @DXRKSIDE
    @DXRKSIDE 4 года назад +2560

    I would love to see a dark Harry Potter spin-off focused on evil wizards/witches

  • @aadhityak3322
    @aadhityak3322 3 года назад +98

    Okay here's my take on this. Dementors are created when horcrux creation goes horribly wrong. This actually checks 2 of the most unexplained things in the wizarding world, so why not just correlate them?
    Creating a horcrux involves splitting your soul, so possibly, when its goes wrong, you destroy the soul instead of splitting it, and your body becomes a vessel which contains all human traits(that would explain Lupin's description of a dementor - soulless and evil. The soulless part being its current state and the evil part being the nature of the person who tried to create a horcrux), and this could be how dementors are formed. This would explain how they still have the same traits as humans - feeding, breeding, understanding human language (there are instances where people talk to dementors in the books)
    Now coming to this story, it is clear that dementors existed before the time of ekrizdis. What ekrizdis could have done was, find an uninhabited island - fortify it - lure humans - perform horcrux creation with their souls instead of his, and intentionally mess it up - create an army of dementors. Also the same about how Raczidian got his guards...

    • @Ceu.Noturno
      @Ceu.Noturno 2 года назад

      can you share when does someone talk to a dementor? I don't recall that part

    • @aadhityak3322
      @aadhityak3322 2 года назад +17

      @@Ceu.Noturno I recall just one instance now. In prisoner of azkaban during the dementor intro scene, Lupin tells the dementor "None of us are hiding Sirius Black under our cloaks". Well, there is also the fact that they take orders from the ministry. I don't remember well, but there is also this instance where the dementors tell fudge about Sirius' condition before his escape(the part where sirius finds out pettigrew is at hogwarts)

    • @Luthyycem
      @Luthyycem Год назад +1

      ​@@Ceu.Noturno in Book 3 it is said that the 'guardians of Azkaban told about Black speaking in his dreams'

  • @brendenzielinskitpt2647
    @brendenzielinskitpt2647 4 года назад +632

    This channel has blown up! It’s great to see

  • @kirkdsouza9410
    @kirkdsouza9410 3 года назад +411

    The spin off movies/series we need
    1) The Dark Lord origins (from birth till his final year in hogwarts)
    2) The first 6 horcrux's formation by Voldemort
    3) The origin and story of the Marauders
    4) The Black's History (including regulus turning and stealing the locket)
    5) The first wizarding war

    • @blowmanuts9584
      @blowmanuts9584 3 года назад +13

      The first two could be a series, call it Tom Riddle or the house of Gaunt
      a marauders series could be fantastic too, a black family series could kinda be worked into that series too, considering Sirius would be heavily involved.
      And a first war series would probably be the season two of the Voldemort series. Definitely a natural progression there.
      I'd say they could make a Hogwarts founders series, a quidditch through the ages series and a kind of one shot series that touches on lesser known stories in Harry Potter like the video above or some of the stories from bettle and the bard

    • @thetf8142
      @thetf8142 2 года назад +8

      How about the founding of hogwarts
      Or the first generation of wizards
      Or a movie about the deathly hallows

    • @TinFoilCat90
      @TinFoilCat90 2 года назад +4

      If they came out anything like cursed child then no.

    • @vollgereat
      @vollgereat 2 года назад +6

      @@TinFoilCat90 the cursed child isnt canon. nothing you or rowling say will make me believe that THAT should be canon. i refuse. and lets be honest: forgetting this part of the harry potter franchise is the best we can do

    • @juggernautnation369
      @juggernautnation369 2 года назад +1

      What about Ilvermorny? I would love to see the American counterpart to Hogwarts as well as more American Wizarding Lore.

  • @psychedesireeeencastillo9405
    @psychedesireeeencastillo9405 3 года назад +87

    Dementors as per Rowling, were a materialization and metaphor for depression - which by those who have felt it is a lot like a dementor getting rid of all happy memories disabling you.

  • @tommyz4715
    @tommyz4715 4 года назад +225

    I started watching this guys like a week ago now I’m hooked

  • @indy_go_blue6048
    @indy_go_blue6048 3 года назад +56

    I think that JOR, who suffered from bouts of deep depression in her own life, gave one of the best descriptions ever of what it feels like to be seriously depressed. A cold darkness in which one's blood is frozen to the marrow; deepest despair in which one will never feel happiness again and in which one's deepest nightmare dwells forever.

    • @TheSMR1969
      @TheSMR1969 Год назад +3

      First world problems

    • @damonrobus-clarke533
      @damonrobus-clarke533 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheSMR1969not if you’ve ever been depressed.

    • @TheSMR1969
      @TheSMR1969 11 месяцев назад

      @@damonrobus-clarke533 first world problem

  • @MrPoem-rq7pz
    @MrPoem-rq7pz 4 года назад +12

    Woke up at 3:30am and was sweating and scorching. Couldn’t sleep whatever I did. Tried scrolling through my phone, didn’t work. Looked in my RUclips feed and saw your vid. Switched it on and fell asleep in 5 mins.
    I know it’s random but I want you to know it helped cause I’ve got a busy day ahead of me and I really needed that extra sleep. Thanks a lot!

    • @dan9590
      @dan9590 4 года назад +1

      The video wasn't that bad...

    • @MrPoem-rq7pz
      @MrPoem-rq7pz 4 года назад +1

      Dan95 bad?

    • @dan9590
      @dan9590 4 года назад

      @@MrPoem-rq7pz I was joking that if it sent you to sleep it must have been a bad video. :)

  • @IrishCoffey76
    @IrishCoffey76 4 года назад +58

    I don't think anyone intentionally created them, I've always thought of them as coming into existence like a poltergeist; an amalgam of dark, negative energy that gains sentience and then feeds on misery and grows from there. I like the 'fungus' theory, too, because most creatures that breed the old fashioned way, have at least a little bit of a positive attitude toward it (one would hope) and as we all know, that's the dementors' kryptonite. I do think that once Ekrizdis discovered them, he simply found a way to help them multiply. Once one became powerful enough, it could split itself like an amoeba, or something along those lines.

    • @nolanthedude
      @nolanthedude Год назад +1

      This is my favorite explanation. Because they have an otherworldly, unstoppable feeling to them, I feel it would be an injustice to their concept for them to be anything other than despair and misery incarnate. Having them be somebody’s creation doesn’t have the same impact as “there was so much suffering and misery that it literally manifested as a sentient creature”. Has a nice ring to it.

  • @jessejamesmanfred6319
    @jessejamesmanfred6319 4 года назад +199

    i always imagined the first dementors were captured squib sailors that were tortured to the point they lost all hope for happiness, desprate for happiness they started to try to steal the emotions of others and by doing so mutaited into dementors feeding off others happiness

  • @brandonzhang760
    @brandonzhang760 4 года назад +27

    I think ekrizdis turned the sailors into the first demetors. He took their souls and their life, and left their rotting corpses and bodies, in their tattered clothes. I think the amount of dark magic on the island or maybe the dark magic that ekrizdis used made them live without actually living, and eventually they were able to reproduce

  • @erisisthename
    @erisisthename 4 года назад +303

    I’d wonder where lethefolds come from. They’re supposedly a relative of the dementors. The patronus charm is the only defense against them, as well. Did they come first? Were they what was in the forest of Raczidian and the noun changed? Are dementors somehow a crossbreed of magical creature; lethefold and something else? I’m not usually into “dark” Harry Potter stuff, but this idea fascinated me. Never gave much thought to Azkaban before the prison, but now my mind is reeling! Thanks for an awesome, thought provoking video.

    • @HarryPotterTheory
      @HarryPotterTheory  4 года назад +56

      Thanks for the kind words! Check out my video 'Lethifolds: The Dementor's Ugly Cousin - Harry Potter Explained' if you want to learn a little more about Lethifolds

    • @darthknightwingphoenix2081
      @darthknightwingphoenix2081 4 года назад +32

      Harry Potter Theory hold on - how are lethifolds the “ugly” cousins? That’s implying that the dementors are good looking...

    • @AlexTheDonut
      @AlexTheDonut 4 года назад +4

      Darth Knightwing Phoenix yea

    • @MountainFisher
      @MountainFisher 4 года назад +13

      @@darthknightwingphoenix2081 No not really, just uglier.

    • @butterkyx757
      @butterkyx757 4 года назад +7

      You : Crossbreed
      Me : Wonders how dark creatures make babies :"

  • @trifled6219
    @trifled6219 4 года назад +24

    My theory is that every muggle he lured to the island he tried to turn into a Dementor, and his failure was driving him mad. Once he finally succeeded, he wanted to make more. He continued to make Dementors until death.

  • @KnightsRealm98
    @KnightsRealm98 4 года назад +57

    Dementors are similar to wraiths in many ways, and not just the Nazgûl. The black, almost shadowy robes, the skeletal appearance, the thriving in darkness of both mind and reality, and the ability to consume souls are all things wraiths in stories and myths do. The origins of wraiths vary as well, as sometimes they are cursed spirits of the deceased and other times they are primordial forces of evil and despair that feast on humans and other races. And sometimes, a wraith is just another word for ghost.

    • @reaperoftalon7865
      @reaperoftalon7865 4 года назад +8

      Yet the Nazgûl are made, as far as is known, vastly different. They were King of Men, who desired power above all else and were changed into the Nazgûl, who still had their own version of the Rings of Power and were raised through the acts of Necromancy. My theory is that the Dementors are the tortured souls and/or remnants of the sailors, twisted and shaped by Necromancy as well. This is, of course, speculation, but in my opinion a plausibel one.
      Yet the difference here is that the Nazgûl, while still controlled by Sauron, are highly intelligent, especially the Witch King. Dementors are, so far as I've seen, acting on a primal instinct. They are mostly drawn to those who felt true despair while the Nazgûl use cooperation and tactics to get their victims.

    • @KnightsRealm98
      @KnightsRealm98 4 года назад +1

      @@reaperoftalon7865 Nazgul are a more traditional Wraith, a cursed soul

  • @Lizz_and_her_guitar
    @Lizz_and_her_guitar 4 года назад +35

    "think of a dark wizard or wich"
    Honestly I thaught about Bellatrix, she was the first who came into my mind

  • @thunder7breaker
    @thunder7breaker 4 года назад +317

    What if Dementors came from one wizard like Voldemort? Someone who made so many Horxruxes that his soul was beyond saving and eventually lost. Thus making him an immortal soulless creature that was always hungry for the happiness and the soul it was missing.

    • @tommoore2012
      @tommoore2012 4 года назад +18

      @@K4neki_CNTP Problem with it being Ekrizdis is his curse hiding the island. If he were still alive it never would have faded.

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 4 года назад +31

      I suspect that a Dementor is kind of Poltergeist created out of depression and despair. Peeves is a Poltergeist created from the mischievous nature of the students of Hogwarts. He also perpetuates that mischievousness. In the same way, Dementors perpetuate despair and depression. There are some issues with this theory. If they are just poltergeists, they shouldn't have been able to survive for so long without people to generate the emotions that cause them to manifest. I suspect they started out as poltergeists and Ekrizdis performed dark magic experiments on them that made them functionally immortal

    • @lepimond4605
      @lepimond4605 4 года назад +19

      @@tommoore2012 I don't really think being a dementor could be considered still being alive. The body of Ekrizdis must have long been rotten, so he's technically dead.
      It's the same as with all of the Voldemort's curses lifting when he got temporarily killed in Potters' house. The body has died, the magic with it.

    • @thunder7breaker
      @thunder7breaker 4 года назад +13

      @@12jswilson That's very likely. My issue is how did they come to possess bodies. Dementors are not like Peeves who is like a ghost. They have bodies and they can also understand human language. Also, they seem to know at some level who is around them. So, there must be some part of intelligence in them. They could be humans before and somehow became corrupted, like the Nazgul from LOTR.

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 4 года назад +9

      @@thunder7breaker Peeves is not a ghost. He can interact with things like all the things he drops. Ghosts are the imprint of a departed soul left on the material world. Poltergeists are manifestations of emotions shared by many people.

  • @tristinmcclain9102
    @tristinmcclain9102 4 года назад +48

    I believe dementors are the souls of failed horcruxs, although Voldemort was able to successfully make seven, they never tell us what happens if a horcrux fails, I believe ekrizdis split his would many times, and due to his insanity and the complexity of the process of horcruxs he failed a good amount of those times, I believe that’s how the dementors are made, or at least the original ones

  • @robertthe19th
    @robertthe19th 4 года назад +424

    *plot* *twist* dementors only take happiness because they want to feel happiness.
    T H A N K Y O U F O R 3 0 0 L I K E S

    • @Fluffy._.Doggo.123
      @Fluffy._.Doggo.123 4 года назад +25

      "sad demeanor noises*

    • @clementsiow176
      @clementsiow176 4 года назад +20

      Aww poor dementors

    • @pastaslut
      @pastaslut 4 года назад +9

      aw that’s sad 😭

    • @saitama6040
      @saitama6040 4 года назад +18

      Aww, poor malicious impoverished beasts who desire to suck out your soul.. :(

    • @saitama6040
      @saitama6040 4 года назад +10

      @The Poop Nah you'd have to pull some Dumbledore level BS to do that

  • @Limxuv
    @Limxuv 3 года назад +22

    I imagine that dementors have always been a part of the world but were much rarer creatures until dark wizards like Ekrizdis, being intrigued by their existence, intentionally created circumstances that would allow them to proliferate.

  • @bennygotthard6641
    @bennygotthard6641 4 года назад +53

    Me: reads Title
    Think of a dark wizard or witch.
    Also me: Ekrizdis.

  • @JamesSmith-gk8sz
    @JamesSmith-gk8sz 4 года назад +6

    I for one am in the camp that Dementors were human once, but broken and warped to the point where they had no mental resistance left to fight. At that point Ekrizdis (looks up to video description to spell name) probably opened their minds and bodies to be possessed and then assimilated with that of dark spirits/demons/creatures....maybe even a part of his own insane consciousness.
    As in most universes where beings like this exist, the need for an undead/wraith thing to feed on happiness and life is pretty standard fare for most stories. They seek the one thing they lack, and are never satisfied with it even when obtained. So they forever roam the Earth, feeding off the occasional victim but staying within areas of desolation and pain and torment to continue "bottom feeding" through absorption or something.

  • @amitir22
    @amitir22 4 года назад +41

    theory: i think Azkaban is a tomb built upon whatever is feeding the dementors. probably something ancient or a trapped obscuros(?)

    • @PortalJay
      @PortalJay 3 года назад +1

      That... is a horrifying but intriguing idea

  • @giobon2559
    @giobon2559 4 года назад +8

    I see your videos each day it is like a daily routine

  • @Γιώργος-ΕυγένιοςΤζωρτζίνης

    A possibility is that Ekrizdis placed his captives under a constant functioning source of the cruciatus curse, perhaps a magical machine, while preventing them from fainting, desensitizing or going mad the way the Longbottoms did, and so Dementors were created.

  • @saitama6040
    @saitama6040 4 года назад +530

    Did Ekrizdis' parents sneeze when they decided his name?
    *THANK YOU FOR THE LIKES :)*

    • @ziq1450
      @ziq1450 4 года назад +43

      probably they were like
      "lets name him e- *sneezes* KRIZSIS"
      doctor then wrote it down and then thats how he got his name

    • @leiziefy
      @leiziefy 4 года назад +1

      @@ziq1450 lmao

    • @saitama6040
      @saitama6040 4 года назад +1

      @@ziq1450 straight fax, i'm talking opposite of james charles fax (too far maybe..?)

    • @cityman2312
      @cityman2312 4 года назад +8

      More likely he gave it to himself. Voldemort's mum did not name him 'Voldemort.'

    • @torkeevr6536
      @torkeevr6536 4 года назад +5

      Thats the sound when you try to hold in a sneeze XD

  • @tj5416
    @tj5416 4 года назад

    This channel is the reason that I love Harry Potter that much more you add so much depth to this series and after every episode it always makes me think of my own theory on the subject. It brings out the imagination inside me and for that I will like to say thanks your this amazing content.

  • @akhmadali1855
    @akhmadali1855 4 года назад +157

    Theory: dementors are the souls of the killed sailors who suck happiness fir revenge

    • @Leviticus_Prime
      @Leviticus_Prime 4 года назад +10

      Dementors already existed. They are the physical embodiments of despair. They are not alive so they can't be.
      The reason the patronus works against them is because the patronus is based around a person's happiest memories.

  • @MokuTheMagi
    @MokuTheMagi 3 года назад +8

    If I had to guess, like horcruxes, dementors need an environment of extreme evil to form. Rather than murder I think a soul must be subject to utter hopelessness and depression in the presence of powerful dark magic. Even the removal of a soul may play a part in the first creation of a dementor.

  • @doublea1591
    @doublea1591 4 года назад +4

    I know it don’t really matter, but in case the creator sees this, I love all these videos and I think this channel deserves more love, views, and likes

  • @nikolascoffey6453
    @nikolascoffey6453 4 года назад +6

    My guess is ekrizdis wanted to become immortal without needing a servant to bring him back. So he experimented with soul magic to basically turn into a lich. However his test subjects that'd become dementors ate him.

  • @hunterandre6360
    @hunterandre6360 4 года назад +49

    Would you consider doing a video on The Story of Merlin the most powerful wizard to be in the Harry Potter universe

    • @HarryPotterTheory
      @HarryPotterTheory  4 года назад +6

      Planning on doing this at some point!

    • @PauloAnnunaki
      @PauloAnnunaki 4 года назад

      He was?

    • @phoenix15_
      @phoenix15_ 4 года назад +1

      Yeah he was. Merlins beard

    • @Phoenix-King-ozai
      @Phoenix-King-ozai 4 года назад +2

      He was popular, no mention of his power or that he was better than any of the founders
      He was a slytherin too
      He was very popular, but we don’t know if he was ever more powerful than Dumbledore and Voldemort
      He could be, but only Rowling knows

  • @roncrimmins3497
    @roncrimmins3497 2 года назад +17

    Reminds me of what Morgoth did to elves in LOTR. twisted and corrupted them into becoming evil creatures.

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner Год назад

      Thats just one of three (if i remember correctly) theories about how orcs came to be. Tolkien himself never gave a definitive answer.

  • @mnxspiderx3831
    @mnxspiderx3831 4 года назад +15

    I just came up with a theory :
    Considering what you said and the fact that people disappear during Voldemorts rise and the fact more dementia appeared suddenly,
    do you think maybe Voldemort learnd himself how to create dementors?

    • @chandanss4918
      @chandanss4918 3 года назад +1

      The dementors feared the dark lord. They joined his side during the war.

  • @trapboxgaming6949
    @trapboxgaming6949 4 года назад +4

    these are so good he makes them sound like real history

  • @GogiRegion
    @GogiRegion 4 года назад +7

    I think that it could make sense that multiple dark wizards could have created the dementors. As far as I know, it never says how they’re created, but it could be something along the lines of a basilisk where you do a sequence of steps that could be independently discovered, likely something to do with torture and despair. Maybe creating a dementor could be something along the lines of destroying or trapping someone’s soul for the purposes of certain dark magic like horcruxes.

    • @SuperGardenator
      @SuperGardenator 3 года назад

      So, dementors were possibly created in convergence? Multiple people discovering the same thing independently is not uncommon.

  • @BookofGates
    @BookofGates 10 дней назад

    Star wars and potter theory is some of the best content on youtube

  • @364carrollst
    @364carrollst 2 года назад +4

    I like to think that Ekrizdis kept separating parts of the sailors soul like the hoarcrux spell, but each part was then tortured and twisted into a monster. The ministry doesn't really go into what the other monsters on the island were and I like the idea that a demeantor is no longer a person but an impulse or hunger.

  • @thepiemessiah6720
    @thepiemessiah6720 Год назад

    I love that halfway through the video, starwars theory takes over the voice over! 😂 Two of my favorite channels! I can't believe I never noticed this before! 😆

  • @katmaresparkles9578
    @katmaresparkles9578 4 года назад +23

    Dementors would be associated with soul magic and necromancy. Just like inferi and horcruxes are. Ekridis and Raczidian sound like Russian or Ukrainian names.

    • @Alice-gr1kb
      @Alice-gr1kb 4 года назад +1

      Raczidian sounds more Polish i think. Not the way the narrator said it but the writing

    • @polina6347
      @polina6347 4 года назад

      😆no, they not

    • @vercettii
      @vercettii 4 года назад

      That sounds nothing like russian

    • @gatgatgatgat2839
      @gatgatgatgat2839 3 года назад

      Any Russian here, stfu

  • @EphisethCriegsheir
    @EphisethCriegsheir 3 года назад +4

    I think that what makes Grindelwald so scary was his charisma, he was a bastard, but a sympathetic one, people tended to listen to him and think "you know what? He's right"

  • @janodefenua4603
    @janodefenua4603 4 года назад +15

    I think he experimented with soul magic, he twisted and tormented souls to such extend it corrupted them to the form what is called dementor.

  • @samuelcavender4693
    @samuelcavender4693 4 года назад +13

    I personally prescribe to the theory that they are made through reattaching an Obscurus to a new host
    Both entities have similar properties, and looking back into the tale of Ariana Dumbledore, she could have been an Obscurus, thus explaining Grindelwald's interest in her.

    • @bipinnambiar
      @bipinnambiar Год назад

      It was canon she was though, at least in the movies.

  • @pogboom-mm
    @pogboom-mm 4 года назад +9

    4:33
    The lunatic who created Horcruxes be like: *Am I a joke to you?*

  • @LambentLark
    @LambentLark 4 года назад +16

    "Most evil witch or wizard?"
    My brain screamed out, "Umbridge!"

  • @HitEmWithAFlow
    @HitEmWithAFlow 4 года назад +33

    If dementors have no soul, and Voldemort had only a little piece of his, then if Voldemort would create more horcruxes, and then his soul would be gone. Does it mean that Voldemort could become a dementor? and if so, then he could complete his purpose of gaining immortality, because dementors are not possible to kill.

    • @TheSpy149
      @TheSpy149 3 года назад +1

      But he would lose more than moritality... he would lose what he had of his remaining humanity, no longer being able to speak and stuff

    • @steventsui3662
      @steventsui3662 3 года назад

      Take can speak

    • @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08
      @MMAisTHEbestSPORT08 2 года назад +3

      But he'd never be able to see his victory in immortality simply because by then he would be a mute 🤐 and soulless person and wouldn't be able to feel the victory.

    • @Ceu.Noturno
      @Ceu.Noturno 2 года назад

      losing the soul means that there's no person inside. The soul is the person. He couldn't be immortal as a dementor, because losing his soul he wouldn't exist anymore.

  • @rbimastro9772
    @rbimastro9772 4 года назад

    Happy to watch your videos. Please don’t start adding 5 minutes of ads on every 10 minute video like some of the other Potter channels. Keep up the good work

  • @Misanthropolis
    @Misanthropolis 4 года назад +6

    Dementors could easily be the insanity of the tortured Muggles physically manifested OR maybe they're physical manifestations of Ekrizdis' insanity? It could also be the result of the curses he put on Muggles. Maybe there was an Unforgivable Curse that lets you steal souls?

    • @G4nd4lf
      @G4nd4lf 2 года назад +2

      I actually like the concept of 4th unforgivable curse that was forgotten. It is a really interesting concept.

    • @Misanthropolis
      @Misanthropolis 2 года назад

      @@G4nd4lf Ikr? The fact that the Ministry sort of controls the Dementors in Azkaban, I would like to believe that the Dementors have a more PERSONAL reason to keep Dark Wizards captured - hatred and vengeance for what Ekrizdis did. And since Ekrizdis was a Dark Wizard, Dementors see every Dark Wizard as Ekrizdis.
      If you think about it, there really is no rule that states that there are only 3 Unforgivable Curses, there could easily be more but nobody has used them on screen or in the books we have right now?
      I had an idea for a spell called Imperius Diabolica (the same suffix that Protego Diabolica has), which not only takes control of a person, but also traps their soul somewhere and in some form.

  • @whitlocktherevanchist5236
    @whitlocktherevanchist5236 2 года назад

    I know that voice narrorating this video. You voice star wars theory too. I love HP but am a huge star wars Canon and EU fan, especially star wars novels. I love the star wars channel and can never get enough star wars, but I'm sure that if I love that channel I'll love this one. Keep doing what you do

  • @spacegun8540
    @spacegun8540 2 года назад +8

    I always loved how dark the atmosphere of harry potter is the world can fit vampires and many dark creatures its a shame the creator has never pursued them

    • @rhaegal5650
      @rhaegal5650 Год назад

      Vampires exist in the Harry Potter universe

    • @spacegun8540
      @spacegun8540 Год назад +1

      @@rhaegal5650 yeah but play no role in it and i think its dumb considering most of them would be dark wizards

  • @Polar333Bear
    @Polar333Bear Год назад +2

    Sounds like a perfect HP horror movie. A group from the Ministry sent to investigate the island, learn of all the wicked things that happened there and of the creatures that linger throughout the halls. I'm thinking elements of Shutter Island meets Ghost Ship meets The Descent.

  • @IdioticPlatypus
    @IdioticPlatypus 4 года назад +3

    In a similar manner to Lily's love escaping her and attaching itself to Harry, the suffering of the muggles' escaped the first victims and attached itself to the next ones. Through torture and murder, Ekrizdis multiplied the suffering with each victim it until all of them were dead. The suffering, without a mortal end, without a master, no longer attached to the people it inhabited, has only one purpose: punish the wizards.

  • @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
    @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus 3 года назад +2

    1:40 Interesting pick. That's Olsztyn Castle ruins :D

  • @zerrierslizer1
    @zerrierslizer1 3 года назад +3

    i made a fan story involving Dementors and they'r connection to the Arch, or "The Gateway to Death" as some call it, including myself.
    and in that story, i described what Dementors are, or rather, could possibly be. i named the story "Azkaban: the Cold Embrace at Death's Door"
    and i Quote: "Dementors... they are not some guard dog to be put on a leash and told to stay. they are not some creature made to scare or to deal with unwanted Wizards and Witches of any origin. in fact, they were not made, but spawned. they guard Death's Door. they are *The Servants Of Death.* " which in short means they are the servants of Death itself, marking the last day of life, removing all hope, happiness and good memories as they take your soul to Death's door, thus completing the circle of Life, embracing you with the cold hands of the innevitable fate that is, *Death.*
    that is how the character in the story i made, called "The Guardian of Azkaban" described Dementors, as he has been on the Island Prison longer than the Prison has been exactly that, a Prison.
    a quote from the story about him goes as follows: ""he was not hired because he was a trusted member of the Ministry or a formidable Wizard. no, we found him there. sitting in an office as old as the stone the island itself was made of, and talking to his "Master" as if he was still around, telling him to keep the work flowing smoothly, saying "yes sir. i will keep this river of death running in your name until my dying breath." his voice, strained and dry, whispered to us, warning us about the death that "they" may bring if "he" does not accept they'r pressence. not long after we settled in and secured the office area from the Dementors, he told us that "his honor has accepted your pressence and is curious to see what you might bring to this place." and Miriam, our highest trained Battle Mage asked him "who has accepted us?" and he answered with a dark and rough tone, "oh, my master of course, yes, yes! he is looking forward to seeing your work!" and as we closed ourselves off from his quarters, we could hear him whispering to the walls, telling his "master" that he will take great care of his guests.""
    i spent over 4 years on the story and i am still working on it to this day! i will publish it when i am finnished with it. :D

    • @dasha-minecraft
      @dasha-minecraft 2 года назад

      ok this sounds dope as hell, please continue writing! I'm assuming you'll post it on Archive Of Our Own when you're done? In any case, i'm intrigued

  • @alberthogg49
    @alberthogg49 4 года назад +1

    I quite like the theory that they act like a mold or a fungus, it would make sense as to why they showed up in dark castles where supposedly large quantities of people were being experimented on and disposed of. I don’t know why but the idea of them actually growing and manifesting from the evil and decay just seems to fit for me.

  • @lasandumaduranga7463
    @lasandumaduranga7463 4 года назад +23

    what will happen if someone gather all dementors and put them in a cage and cast patronus charm upon them?🙄 just curious😁😁

  • @joatmon0087
    @joatmon0087 4 месяца назад +1

    Theory 1: Ezkirdis tried to resurrect a loved one using dark magic & all he managed was create the first dementor
    Theory 2: the first dementor is a dark wizard's soul that was created as a horcrux.
    Theory 3: The dementor was once a muggle who was tortured so much.

  • @yubeda-k6k-s2r
    @yubeda-k6k-s2r 2 года назад +5

    Theory: Dark wizards created them by consuming the souls of their victims. In turn, they search endlessly, ravenously, and in vain for their humanity; they hate all creatures with souls, and in their enraged envy seek to destroy them the way they were.

  • @stitchxstitch
    @stitchxstitch Год назад

    The idea of the Dementors breeding as if they were a fungus, i.e the cordyceps fungus, is an intriguing and horrifying theory that I already love.

  • @markuhler2664
    @markuhler2664 Год назад +4

    My favorite dark wizard - Dumbledore. He practically admits it. Yes, he fought against Voldy but that doesn't make him good. And yes, he stayed away from direct control of the wizarding world. He did hold the headmaster position however, able to mold children into the adults he desired.
    He kept Harry in an abusive household. When he had mind-altering spells to ensure Harry would be properly treated. Or if that's too dark as well, which I do think it is, he could have placed a caretaker in the home as well, or forced them to move to where he could protect Harry better. Or he could have just trusted his strength and the strength of those around him to protect Harry despite his mother's sacrifice. He set Harry up to be killed with no guarantee that Harry could, or would want to, return to life. He manipulated Harry into wanting this. He never forgave, or really even cared, about Snape, manipulating him for all of his life after Lily's death. He maintained the Sorting/Housing system despite knowing how destructive it was for the children.
    He was a sociopath. He had enough of a conscience to recognize that what he was doing was wrong but in the end it never stopped his actions.
    And finally, he ensured he would live on forever as a hero despite his actions. Rita Skeeter never learned of the worst things he did and he instilled enough loyalty into Harry that he would never reveal anything.
    That's my hot take.

  • @marcosdeharo9371
    @marcosdeharo9371 4 года назад

    BRILLIANTLY written! loved every minute. well done!

  • @tasbita_shafiq
    @tasbita_shafiq 3 года назад +5

    this scares me so much, like my insides hurt because of fear, i dont know why, but it just does

    • @PortalJay
      @PortalJay 3 года назад

      Same

    • @MelancoliaI
      @MelancoliaI 3 года назад +1

      The hideous, horrible evil of Ekrizdis is beyond belief

  • @hartleyshandcrafted
    @hartleyshandcrafted 4 года назад +2

    ive always pontificated that dementors are actually creations of muggles through acts of war and ongoing human atrocity. they are a manifestation of the evil of men or perhaps even evil spirits. the entities that muggles call demons or malevolent spirits are actually dementors. adds up since we cant see them but magical beings can.

  • @2077market1
    @2077market1 4 года назад +5

    absolutely awesome vid! can you do a video on what would happen if draco defied the voldemort and helped the order?

  • @koksigermajority991
    @koksigermajority991 4 года назад +1

    After watching that (great video btw), I think that dementors are simply wizards or human beings whose soul was sucked out by Ekrizdis. Now they’ll live on forever doing what Ekrizdis himself did- torturing, destroying happy and good things. Imo that’s how they were created.

  • @miriam3848
    @miriam3848 4 года назад +17

    What the frack?! Someone CREATED them?! That’s so screwed up

  • @Ryan-pz4dh
    @Ryan-pz4dh Год назад +2

    Maybe Dementors are human beings that have been tortured, twisted and corrupted with dark magic. Like the Orcs in LOTR which are corrupted Elves.

  • @Kreln1221
    @Kreln1221 4 года назад +4

    (...girlish giggle...)
    *"Hold my Butter Beer..."*
    Delores Umbridge

  • @SpinX522
    @SpinX522 2 года назад +1

    Given what we know about dementors, and possibly poltergeists as well, I have a theory that they are actually some sort of tulpa(thought form), and the reason they exist is because the witches and wizards believe they exist. This is also why dementors can’t be killed, because those that believe in them believe they can’t be killed. So if my theory is true if those that believe dementors exist stopped believing in them, they might just stop existing.

  • @Ritziey
    @Ritziey 4 года назад +6

    i must be having the company of a dementor in my life

  • @jadeblack5586
    @jadeblack5586 Год назад

    Well done, I enjoyed this video, and I'll look at your other stuff. Thanks!

  • @saajiddaya2152
    @saajiddaya2152 4 года назад +4

    You should read Edinbild's story, BASILISK BORN. It's an AMAZING story, the lore is very well done and intricate. It also explains Ekrizdis' origin.

  • @relentless873
    @relentless873 6 месяцев назад +1

    If the dementors were created from muggles
    , it means every dementors we saw were once a human, they had once woken up to alarm clocks, dressed up to go to school/work, played sports, loved someone, and celebrated their birthdays (up until the day they reached the island).
    think about it!

  • @thelostgirl101
    @thelostgirl101 4 года назад +4

    I don't think the dementors were created on the island, I think they were drawn to it with all the dark magic experiments and torture that Ekrizdis was doing. Then when Azkaban became offical, they continued to stay there, drawn by the dark wizards etc.

    • @cedriceric9730
      @cedriceric9730 3 года назад +1

      I thought the same but I think they are results of ugly wizard experiments on muggle prisoners
      Makes better sense to me, they don't seem natural to magic
      They are related to inferi
      There has to be some branch of dark magic for such stuff
      Seeing how patronuses repel them , it was some type of reverse patronus spell like expecto depression!!( I'm disgusted to invent that)
      But engineered to multiply
      Wizards can create life even in inanimate objects( Ron's car became like a dog)
      That evil wizard chose to perform the spell in such an environment of depression that it was powerful enough to form the creatures.
      i guess they need an environment of negativity to breed
      Their physical forms may be like diary riddle building it self by sucking life out of others instead of physical reproduction
      That dark wizard was likely the first to die by the dementors ( some good news at last:):)as it takes someone who thinks along completely different lines to repel them.
      Plus they also overran the place and became dominant species

  • @Volnas97
    @Volnas97 3 года назад

    I have a theory. Ekrizdis was trying to understand death and to wake up dead, not as zombies, but as normal people as they were before, but since his experiments were unethical, he had to make them outside of any jurisdiction.
    He was trapping sailors who washed on the shores of his island, killing them and then trying to resurrect them and from these attempts were born Dementors, Zombies and others. That's why I think, that he was trying to bring someone he loved back to life.
    I also assume, that he hid his island not only so no one would find him, but also so none of his creatures would escape to the world, volutarily becoming first prisioner of Azkaban.
    Also, Raczidian (where the CZ is read like CH in chair because Polish) could've create Dementors and Ekrizdis was just using his research or maybe they were the same person.

  • @xeniamartin5297
    @xeniamartin5297 4 года назад +4

    What a wonderful idea. Take already evil, twisted minded wizards like Bellatrix and even just plain murderers and lock them away to a plave of horror, misery, and pain. Surely they wont got more mad.

  • @mrillusionist8402
    @mrillusionist8402 2 года назад +1

    Could be possible that Ekrizdis performed a sort of horcrux type experimentation on those he lured to the island. But instead of splitting just their souls he split their very spirit. To strip someone's very being down into anguish and pain is beyond any physical torture. Its hell incarnate a complete destruction of a spirit. Perhaps dementors are the resulting effect the ashes of the very spirits Ekrizdis destroyed.

  • @helios3217
    @helios3217 4 года назад +4

    I’m very interested in watching this! :o

  • @ilovecheetos4098
    @ilovecheetos4098 3 года назад +1

    Nice video! Also, a little trivia for those who are interested, the plural form of "patronus" is "patroni".

  • @callydonna
    @callydonna 4 года назад +3

    Dementors are actually similar to mimikyu since they wear similiar clothes and are both terrifying

  • @chm1701
    @chm1701 3 года назад

    Literally just realised that SW Theory is part of this. Good to know. Subbed.

  • @bradleyfang
    @bradleyfang 3 года назад +4

    Is it just me or did his voice switch in the middle of the video?

    • @le_Malicieux
      @le_Malicieux 8 месяцев назад

      Me too

    • @_N4F
      @_N4F 6 месяцев назад +1

      2nd one sounds like Star Wars theory

  • @slenderman1251
    @slenderman1251 3 года назад

    Great video, very fascinating!

  • @danielarthur2950
    @danielarthur2950 2 года назад +7

    Why did you change voices half way through?

  • @malmal3003
    @malmal3003 3 месяца назад +1

    What if Ekrizdis IS the first Dementor? Maybe it was a failed experiment to gain immortality, he became one and the only way to stay "alive" is to feed off the life force of others. Eventually, after the Dementors kiss, the victim is so drained that they become Dementors, and it's a vicious cycle. When they don't have souls to feed off, they feed off the residue on each other and animals who are unfortunate enough to cross their path. In all, Ekrizdis is still "alive" hoping to gain the life force from enough people to be made whole again. It could be why they followed Voldemort. He was very good at uncovering ancient knowledge/secrets and could've figured out that Ekrizdis was a dementor. He struck a deal to allow them to roam the world, feeding off of humanity. I can imagine the the ministry knew this secret and was how they were able to turn Azkaban into a prison with the process of a consistent flow of victims to feed Ekrizdis and he legion but it was never enough, hence joining with Voldy. That's what makes sense to me, but there could be better ideas out there.

  • @Zayn__bored
    @Zayn__bored 4 года назад +9

    Yes finely an answer to the question I asked

  • @ShubhamAggarwal295
    @ShubhamAggarwal295 4 года назад

    U rock bro, just loved it

  • @koendos3
    @koendos3 3 года назад +3

    What if you put your horcrux into an invincible dementor, would you really be immortal?

  • @youdontneedtoreadthis
    @youdontneedtoreadthis 2 года назад

    I shivered so many times while listening to this

  • @ugonnavibe
    @ugonnavibe 2 года назад +4

    Star Wars theory is on this crazy

    • @professional_cynic98
      @professional_cynic98 2 года назад +2

      Bro ngl I’m stoned out of my brain and just realised that

  • @peterjonsson8129
    @peterjonsson8129 3 года назад

    I think the ministry made up that story, the real person who made the patronus was the Evil wizard himself.
    He found so much joy, hope and happiness in torturing that he invented the spell the unintended / or intended side effects was it being a dementor repellant.
    Maybe that's why the dementors never tried to kill him, he was like a walking patronus.
    But they couldn't tell students that so they made a story up.

  • @ThisFatFunnyLife
    @ThisFatFunnyLife 4 года назад +4

    You know it's bad when no nationality wants to say you belong to them.. "idk is he British?" Brits: "Nah definitely not British"