I’ve seen the Lock Picking Lawyer piece. It is severely outdated. To clarify my thoughts on this device. I think your gun should be on you all the time while you are awake. A weapon that isn’t in use should be stored in a safe or vault. This isn’t a safe/vault. This is something that sits on your nightstand and secures your gun while you sleep. This is to keep your 3 year old from screwing with it when she has a bad dream and hasn’t woken you with “dad, there is a monster under the bed”. Yet. Don’t mistake me on appropriate use cases. That said. I do like that it is all manual. If you would like me to fill it with candy and let my nieces and nephews try to open it, I will do this thing.
LOL, made the same suggestion with the kids in my own comment - definitely do it as I'm betting they'll get into it inside of ten minutes. Trick is whether or not you'll share the video of your sponsor's child proof lock box being defeated by a child?
If this is the case, then I would like to see both LPL re-reviewing it AND the kids trying to get into it for candy, LEGOs, Amazon gift card, whatever.
In addition to what VSO already said, the lock picking lawyer video. He did not say it’s a retention device. Not a safe. He did not convey the context in which this is meant to be used. It’s like doing a video on a level 4 retention duty holster and saying “look, I figured it out”. The StopBox is design to conceal and prevent easy access to others while your gun is in use. Also, he lied. He was not correct when saying there are only 6 combinations. We literally engineered and manufacture the StopBox ourselves. We know how it works and how many combinations there are, he clearly didn’t. On the original there were 15 interchangeable, or 81 with the expansion pack. And that’s only if you understand how exactly it works. Otherwise there are hundreds of permutations that keep the StopBox locked if you don’t know exactly how it works. There’s also a lid pressure safety he clearly didn’t know about and if he had put something about the thickness of a gun inside. Also, that was our gen 1 product. This is the StopBox Pro and is a completely new product. Fully redesigned. We’ve tried reaching out to him to correct his inaccuracies and misrepresentations with no luck.
That has some nice features but I can't justify paying money for a plastic lockbox with cheap, external plastic hinges. You say it's to keep the kids out and to keep honest people honest but if my daughter wanted in that she would get in it and could probably do it with a knife. Nope.... It's great idea, but the WRONG MATERIAL. If the manufacturer made it out of heavy gauge steel with a mounting bracket I would buy one, maybe two.
60 seconds and a butter knife and I'll get into the inside of anything plastic if it is made of at least two pieces fastened together. It won't be pretty and it wont fit back together again nicely but It's just a matter of leverage. If you don't believe me I could introduce you to a Mr Archimedes and he could explain it to you -albeit in Greek.
I have been looking at one of these to replace my current electronic lock box which as of a couple of weeks ago has had one of the buttons stop functioning. At this point I wont trust electronics for my bedside gun.
Nothing wrong just layin on the counter/nightstand. Then again. It would be hard for the german shepard to get his paws on it. In any kind of useful way 😂
Lock picking lawyer did a video on this. 6 combinations will open it. Might as well just put a sticky note on it saying “don’t touch” Gives a false sense of security that is likely to do more harm.
@@RealJayGriff If it's 4 buttons and a single combination press to open, that's 16 combinations, minus 1 for no buttons pressed. Serial button pressing gives more combinations, but with slower opening.
Had one and it worked great for keeping the firearm away from the grandchildren, but the worsening arthritis in my hands made it impossible for me to use.
5 seconds with a cat's paw or even a big 1/2" straight blade screwdriver -both are on the workbench along with a dozen other tools that would make short work of this toy.
A Brute safe is 3/16" steel and has a 5 button Simplex manual push button lock and can be bolted down, like through the floor of my vehicles trunk. Yeah they're around $400 but that means I still have my gun when I go back to my car. You get what you pay for. 😊
Guessing you can bolt this thing down to a surface as well. Do you think a thief who has time to remove a bolted down stop box with a cutting tool also has time enough to remove the one you mentioned? I also don’t think this thing is marketed as a “car safe” so it’s a moot point?
@@StopBoxUSA Thank you for responding. My reasoning, with all due respect, is that this is a plastic box made of lesser quality than a plastic pelican case, which costs less. The alternative top selling boxes similar to yours cost $75-$180 for a steel box too. Don't get me wrong, I see the purpose and job it fulfills. It's a very nice case but $200.00 is simply too much for a quick access box, let alone safe. Maybe I cannot appreciate the product's quality over yt. At $99.99 I'd buy it tomorrow. Black Friday is coming up... You can make me eat my words in public. lol Have a nice day!
This is much better than the first version of this, but you should still talk about the nice of possible combinations. My 7 y/o, if left unsupervised, would have sat at this trying different combinations until it opened. Two small hands will work in place of one large hand.
it’s a retention device. Not a safe. He did not convey the context in which this is meant to be used. It’s like doing a video on a level 4 retention duty holster and saying “look, I figured it out”. The StopBox is design to conceal and prevent easy access to others while your gun is in use. Also, he lied. He was not correct when saying there are only 6 combinations. We literally engineered and manufacture the StopBox ourselves. We know how it works and how many combinations there are, he clearly didn’t. On the original there were 15 interchangeable, or 81 with the expansion pack. And that’s only if you understand how exactly it works. Otherwise there are hundreds of permutations that keep the StopBox locked if you don’t know exactly how it works. There’s also a lid pressure safety he clearly didn’t know about and if he had put something about the thickness of a gun inside. Also, that was our gen 1 product. This is the StopBox Pro and is a completely new product. Fully redesigned. We’ve tried reaching out to him to correct his inaccuracies and misrepresentations with no luck.
If you have smaller than adult sized hands you can't do the finger combo and the thumb...unless you've got two hands, thus allowing you to use one hand for the finger combos and the other to push the thumb button. What about small handed and short fingered wives trying to access this thing as I've found that most child proof things are normally only wife proof? If you want to do an honest review, give it to your nieces and nephews to play with and see if they can get into it - put a few bucks or some candy inside and tell them they've got twenty minutes to get into it - with how limited the combinations are, I'm betting it might last ten minutes. Holy crap - just looked it up and that piece of plastic runs $120 from their website - might as well buy a real one for that kind of money.
If they make it in metal, this may be a viable option for me. Plastic is a no-go for me with curious children. Also, my government overlords won't "approve" it as an authorized "required" 2A lock box. - from behind enemy lines in CA
I really don't think this is enough security to keep it out of the hands of kids. Check out the lock picking lawer vidoe on it. Vline and fort knox made great lock boxes made out of steel with simplex mechanical locks.
The key question they'll consider is how much it delays the lawful user from accessing the contents in the event of a home invasion. "Press the right combination of buttons and it opens" is far too fast for tyrants trying to protect home invaders.
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I’ve seen the Lock Picking Lawyer piece. It is severely outdated.
To clarify my thoughts on this device. I think your gun should be on you all the time while you are awake. A weapon that isn’t in use should be stored in a safe or vault. This isn’t a safe/vault. This is something that sits on your nightstand and secures your gun while you sleep. This is to keep your 3 year old from screwing with it when she has a bad dream and hasn’t woken you with “dad, there is a monster under the bed”. Yet. Don’t mistake me on appropriate use cases. That said. I do like that it is all manual.
If you would like me to fill it with candy and let my nieces and nephews try to open it, I will do this thing.
@@VSO_Gun_Channel
Perhaps he needs to review,
"New Hotness" vs "Old and Busted".
What kind of candy? I'm in.
LOL, made the same suggestion with the kids in my own comment - definitely do it as I'm betting they'll get into it inside of ten minutes.
Trick is whether or not you'll share the video of your sponsor's child proof lock box being defeated by a child?
If this is the case, then I would like to see both LPL re-reviewing it AND the kids trying to get into it for candy, LEGOs, Amazon gift card, whatever.
In addition to what VSO already said, the lock picking lawyer video. He did not say it’s a retention device. Not a safe. He did not convey the context in which this is meant to be used. It’s like doing a video on a level 4 retention duty holster and saying “look, I figured it out”. The StopBox is design to conceal and prevent easy access to others while your gun is in use. Also, he lied. He was not correct when saying there are only 6 combinations. We literally engineered and manufacture the StopBox ourselves. We know how it works and how many combinations there are, he clearly didn’t. On the original there were 15 interchangeable, or 81 with the expansion pack. And that’s only if you understand how exactly it works. Otherwise there are hundreds of permutations that keep the StopBox locked if you don’t know exactly how it works. There’s also a lid pressure safety he clearly didn’t know about and if he had put something about the thickness of a gun inside. Also, that was our gen 1 product. This is the StopBox Pro and is a completely new product. Fully redesigned. We’ve tried reaching out to him to correct his inaccuracies and misrepresentations with no luck.
That has some nice features but I can't justify paying money for a plastic lockbox with cheap, external plastic hinges. You say it's to keep the kids out and to keep honest people honest but if my daughter wanted in that she would get in it and could probably do it with a knife. Nope.... It's great idea, but the WRONG MATERIAL. If the manufacturer made it out of heavy gauge steel with a mounting bracket I would buy one, maybe two.
60 seconds and a butter knife and I'll get into the inside of anything plastic if it is made of at least two pieces fastened together. It won't be pretty and it wont fit back together again nicely but It's just a matter of leverage. If you don't believe me I could introduce you to a Mr Archimedes and he could explain it to you -albeit in Greek.
@@svbarryduckworth628hey reply to this comment when you’ve uploaded a video of you doing that 👌
@hikeskool I've uploaded a video on another x rated video site of me busting into your m. BTW she says hi.
I have been looking at one of these to replace my current electronic lock box which as of a couple of weeks ago has had one of the buttons stop functioning. At this point I wont trust electronics for my bedside gun.
I have some of those! I enjoy them and their chamber lock.
Nothing wrong just layin on the counter/nightstand.
Then again. It would be hard for the german shepard to get his paws on it. In any kind of useful way 😂
Unless you have the hybrid GS with thumbs!😮
Lock picking lawyer did a video on this. 6 combinations will open it. Might as well just put a sticky note on it saying “don’t touch”
Gives a false sense of security that is likely to do more harm.
Lpl is one of the few sources I will actually take lock purchasing advice from.
Answers the top question I had about this box.
The new version of it has a ton more possible combinations.
@@RealJayGriff If it's 4 buttons and a single combination press to open, that's 16 combinations, minus 1 for no buttons pressed. Serial button pressing gives more combinations, but with slower opening.
I was about to say check with LPL before you endorse a single damn thing that involves locks lol
Had one and it worked great for keeping the firearm away from the grandchildren, but the worsening arthritis in my hands made it impossible for me to use.
I own several and have used them for years. The pro version is even better than the OG. They're great for keeping firearms away from kids.
Good video 🤛, how's wombat and the guys from your early vso vids😊
i have 2 i hate its a right handed only contraption. i tossed mine into the basement its still there on the floor
Lefty's use our product just fine, just takes sometime to practice. Don't neglect safety
Can it fit a Glock G40 with a flux defense kit, 4 port compensator from Carver Customs, and a Vortex venom?
Yag
I wonder how many of the founding era gunowners had gun safes or lockboxes for their firearms?
I picked up two of these a couple months back for my EDC guns. Quick access without being accessible to my small children.
I am pretty sure my 13 year old could defeat that lock box in 5 minutes with the tools in our garage. Plastic box = nope.
5 seconds with a cat's paw or even a big 1/2" straight blade screwdriver -both are on the workbench along with a dozen other tools that would make short work of this toy.
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Love ya Curt, but these boxes are all a joke, regardless of maker, model, etc. In my opinion these boxes promote complacency.
A Brute safe is 3/16" steel and has a 5 button Simplex manual push button lock and can be bolted down, like through the floor of my vehicles trunk. Yeah they're around $400 but that means I still have my gun when I go back to my car. You get what you pay for. 😊
If your car is still where you left it 😬
Guessing you can bolt this thing down to a surface as well. Do you think a thief who has time to remove a bolted down stop box with a cutting tool also has time enough to remove the one you mentioned?
I also don’t think this thing is marketed as a “car safe” so it’s a moot point?
What's with the bots in the comments?
You mean those girls arent real ??
$200.00 DOLLARS?????!!!!!!!! Um, no.
God forbid but is $200 not worth your families and those around you safety?
@@StopBoxUSA Thank you for responding. My reasoning, with all due respect, is that this is a plastic box made of lesser quality than a plastic pelican case, which costs less. The alternative top selling boxes similar to yours cost $75-$180 for a steel box too. Don't get me wrong, I see the purpose and job it fulfills. It's a very nice case but $200.00 is simply too much for a quick access box, let alone safe. Maybe I cannot appreciate the product's quality over yt. At $99.99 I'd buy it tomorrow. Black Friday is coming up... You can make me eat my words in public. lol Have a nice day!
@@StopBoxUSAthese people are out of control. Nothing is good enough for them. You guys have very thick skin👌
@@hikeskool Thank you thick skin is growing thicker and thicker everyday haha
This is much better than the first version of this, but you should still talk about the nice of possible combinations. My 7 y/o, if left unsupervised, would have sat at this trying different combinations until it opened. Two small hands will work in place of one large hand.
Hope you didn’t leave your keys laying in the dirt there.
Hello,
I'm the Lock Picking Lawyer and today...
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it’s a retention device. Not a safe. He did not convey the context in which this is meant to be used. It’s like doing a video on a level 4 retention duty holster and saying “look, I figured it out”. The StopBox is design to conceal and prevent easy access to others while your gun is in use. Also, he lied. He was not correct when saying there are only 6 combinations. We literally engineered and manufacture the StopBox ourselves. We know how it works and how many combinations there are, he clearly didn’t. On the original there were 15 interchangeable, or 81 with the expansion pack. And that’s only if you understand how exactly it works. Otherwise there are hundreds of permutations that keep the StopBox locked if you don’t know exactly how it works. There’s also a lid pressure safety he clearly didn’t know about and if he had put something about the thickness of a gun inside. Also, that was our gen 1 product. This is the StopBox Pro and is a completely new product. Fully redesigned. We’ve tried reaching out to him to correct his inaccuracies and misrepresentations with no luck.
@@StopBoxUSA do you still need to press 2 of the 4 buttons?
If you have smaller than adult sized hands you can't do the finger combo and the thumb...unless you've got two hands, thus allowing you to use one hand for the finger combos and the other to push the thumb button.
What about small handed and short fingered wives trying to access this thing as I've found that most child proof things are normally only wife proof?
If you want to do an honest review, give it to your nieces and nephews to play with and see if they can get into it - put a few bucks or some candy inside and tell them they've got twenty minutes to get into it - with how limited the combinations are, I'm betting it might last ten minutes.
Holy crap - just looked it up and that piece of plastic runs $120 from their website - might as well buy a real one for that kind of money.
If they make it in metal, this may be a viable option for me. Plastic is a no-go for me with curious children. Also, my government overlords won't "approve" it as an authorized "required" 2A lock box.
- from behind enemy lines in CA
Plastic
I really don't think this is enough security to keep it out of the hands of kids. Check out the lock picking lawer vidoe on it. Vline and fort knox made great lock boxes made out of steel with simplex mechanical locks.
😐 Gavin Nuisance California just passed a safe storage law. You have to use a [ California approved ] safe locking device
Gee, I bet there won't be any backdoor deals with those lock box manufacturers involving money.
The key question they'll consider is how much it delays the lawful user from accessing the contents in the event of a home invasion. "Press the right combination of buttons and it opens" is far too fast for tyrants trying to protect home invaders.