Game of Thrones Season 8 Episode 5 'The Bells' Part 2 REACTION!!
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Forces have arrived at Kings Landing for the final battle and Daenerys Targaryen unleashes Drogon on the city. Here's part 1 of our reaction to season 8 episode 5 of Game of Thrones.
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Seeing a ton of comments about the “poor writing” without anything to support why. If your upset with the writing, we’d love to hear why. Could be a good topic of discussion.
Bad writng: Rise and fall of Varys in less than 5 scene... same for Daenerys going mad.... i love where it goes... i just have need at least 10-12 more scene to fully buy the mad queen arc...
I'm just disappointed about the way Cersei died, really thought Arya was gonna get her or Jon
I think this is how it was always meant to go down with Dany, but her journey to becoming 'mad' doesn't seem justified and feels rushed. This is meant to be the woman who has spent seven seasons freeing slaves where ever she goes, but instead of flying to the Red Keep and just burning Cersei (totally what I thought she was going to do) she just decides to burn all those innocent people? For what reason?
I think it's purely D&Ds fault for insisting on only 6 episodes. HBO wanted more but they were adamant on only six for whatever reason. We needed to see her journey to becoming more and more dark not just burning loads of innocent people because of 'lol shes mad'.
Do you believe the things that happened to her warrant that big of a change in that moment? Remember when she locked up her Dragons for killing 1 kid? Now she doesnt just have collateral damage and citizens die in the battle. She actively seeks out surrendering, running away, innocent people and children. Seriously? I dont see it at all. I understand that there is definitely a plot line of her having a descent to being the Mad Queen but this is extremely rushed and is honestly just so disappointing. The writing the last 2 seasons have just been so below everything else. Everything feels rushed. Like we are missing episodes with character development. And Jon is literally a side character now. Arya is now the main character. And I love her. But come on. I could talk about a lot.
Cersei was given a prophecy that she would die by either the hands of tyrion or jamie but a falling brick gets the kill
Arya is definitely gonna kill Cersei
Dany is definitely gonna kill Cersei
Jaime is definitely gonna kill Cersei
Bricks: hold our cement.
😂😂
Well... Dany kinda killed Cersei....
She didn't set the Red Keep on fire and tore it apart just to annoy Cersei....
@@MrFox-xr9cc Technically, Drogon killed Cersei, not Dany.
Same 😉😂🤣😂
it's Jaime killed cersei, if he weren't bring her there, she might be alive, poor cersei.
The awkward moment when you're wearing a Mother of Dragons shirt while Dany is burning the entire city
Lol you notice he's wearing a shirt that says ... it was me
That's what Tyrian told Varys
@@jacerea8683 omg that is funny!
🤔
what's more awkward is that i've only watch the first minute of this knowing what's about to happen and there reaction is about to change. lol how many many people named there kids after dany
That's why I never bought one 😂 I kinda expected that 😂
Euron: I'm the one who killed Jaime lannister
Bricks : Tell Euron it was us
Lmaoo
Bricks: Euron sends his regards
Bricks are the valonqar
RIP Sandor Clegane:
Most brutally honest. and least hypocritical character on the show.
Bronn is that way as well.
@@cthulhucollector no he isn't
The fight he was waiting his entire life for. Its done!
@@ryankueter8396 correct! For enough gold that is!
How is Jon hypocritical?
“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”.
The greatest, most relevant line ever...
All it takes is one bad day...
She was always going to be a villain, only Dany fans couldn't see it.
@@rahulranax- Right? I have been waiting for this episode/event for 2 years now. It was long overdue. Cersei is the real villain and truly evil. Dany did what she had to do to remove Cersei. Civilian casualties are inevitable in realistic war battles, unfortunately.
"Be a dragon"
No it's not. It's a phase from a completely different franchise that doesn't excuse bad character writing
Cercie walks past the hound and the mountain like.. woah I can see you two have beef, I’ll just see myself down the stairs!
Lol! Right😄
Lmfao she’s all “AWKWARD....” and steps away
Danielle right! “Well I’m just gonna hit the dusty trail”
Lol ....yyeeeaaaaaa
Well with imminent death upon you it puts priorities in place. Cersei’s was trying to escape the Clegane brothers its killing each other.
Arya and the Hound relationship is the best thing in the entire show
M B it’s the only good thing left
@Last Earthbender No, neither learned from eachother, while Arya and Sandor learned a lot from eachother.
@@spirittammyk they're brothers they don't have to learn from each other lol
It was actually Jaime and Brienne but cool.
One problem I have with daenerys burning it all down is this. The mad king when he said burn them all still made sense. He was losing anyways and because he was mad wanted to take as many as he could with him. But daenerys was winning. All she had to do was fly up to cersei's window and say dracarys.
it makes a little bit of sense why she lost it. she's a targarian its in her blood. and think about all she lost.
It actually makes sense. Lets not forget she was mad and angry, ever since she heard about whi Jon really is. She ends up proving shes like any other woman. A woman, mad? at something or somebody(especially their man) they will rather watch the world burn than hold theirself accountable. So it makes perfect sense.
Tyrion is officially the tallest Lannister =))))
Mr. Q I think he still might have cousins
Mr. Q 🤣😂👊🏽😂🤣
mr stark "the only lannisters who count"
Invalid Name. Please, Try Again. Good point
lmao shut up
Awwww when Arya called him Sandor 😭😭😭 and thanked him
M G ikr 😭😭😭😭 Hound was one of my favorites :( why did the writers make The Mountain so over-powered :(
Dude...your Olenna Tyrell shirt. “It was me” 😂
Lol Nikki has the same one 😂 I think she wore it during the Spoils of War episode 🤔
I hate her
@@soroushm2498 Haters gonna hate. She was a badass.
@@mememaster8050 agree
Same as Cersei,I loved and rooted for Cersei.everyone has their point of view that's totally valid
@@soroushm2498 Yea there weren't any clear "protagonist" or "antagonist" in GOT. Maybe u can call the white walkers antagonist but that's it. Every house has its own individuals.
That episode is the definition of an emotional roller coaster.
TDFXX pretty much all GoT episodes are. 😂💕
This episode is the definition of shit
Clegane's affection for the Stark sisters is amazing. You did not show it in your cuts, but Arya looks so small and vulnerable when Sandor grabs her head. The assassin suddenly became a young woman again.
Dom Pops when did sandor grab arya by her head?
@@hawthornroot At 7:53 of this video he his holding her head in his hand. The image I am talking about happens 2 seconds after but at this moment we see the reactions and not the show.
Dom Pops oooh. there. i saw it. lol. tnx.
I think she’s going to rethink being a lady and perhaps reconsider Gendry....
cringe, stfu, this show sucks because of arya
No, Cersei didn‘t plant the wildfire. Remember the Mad King, he planted and hid Wildfire throughout King‘s Landing, that were his last deposits blowing up.
it was meant to look like she's finishing what her father started, which she actually did
No, she did plant them. You can see the barrels around the city.
youcef azizou Yeah, it was great symbolism.
Aussie Roberts really? When can you see them in the Episode?
@@pascal6263 It's even in the trailers. Look at the towers
All of Dany's friends and advisors, the people who would normally be capable of changing her mind, are gone. Barristan is dead. Jorah is dead. Missandei is dead. Greyworm is in revenge mode because of Missandei being dead. Varys betrayed her and is now dead. Daario is keeping the seat warm in Essos. Tyrion has fucked up too many times for her to trust his advice.
This kind of "rain indiscriminate hellfire upon my enemies" reaction has always been Danaerys' natural inclination. But until now, it had mostly been kept in check by her advisors.
If Jorah were here, things might have turned out differently.
So from a strategic standpoint it makes perfect sense to instill fear in both your allies and your enemies. You can't rule with no love from any of the people. Usurpers would start plotting against you day 1. They would smile at you while plotting to overthrow you behind your back. You need the iron hand on the iron throne if your dynasty is going to change the world.
Exactly, the only thing that surprised me was how surprised all the fans were lol
And her blood was up from battle
@Jacob Thompson Dany said a lot of good things but her own actions were almost always very different. She got to where she was by raiding and conquering and being utterly brutal and vindictive to her enemies.
i really like this reasoning. this makes the most sense. her "conscience" so to speak have all died.
Can we take a moment and appreciate the amazing acting by Lena Headey over the course of these 8 seasons.
Ofc praise to all others too, but i feel Lena deserves a praise or two as well :)
YES absolutely
Bran saw all this coming and just chillin on that wheelchair
Bran could see past, present and future. He has stated so himself
Bran was watching and I believe warged into that horse to get Arya out of there.
LOL!
Yea, he knew when Jaime came at episode 1 and Jaime is gonna die at episode 2 as they had conversation
He also knew Arya is gonna kill the nightking when he gave her the dagger. You could see his attitude at that moment
The Hound's story arc was consistant from begin to end. He ended up destroying his brother by fire. Just perfect! One of my favorite character. I'm happy he was there almost until the very end.
imagine The Hound suddenly take pity with his brother & decided not to kill him
we all know that Hound is getting softer now. There were hints all the way from the 1st season after he rescued Sansa
expectation subverted!!!
Amazing, He embraced Lord of light at his very end, litterally
Wish he lived in the books too :(
He was the one character arc that didnt get put on fast forward. His was consistent and made sense. They fit 1 or 2 seasons worth of Danys Mad Queen descent in to literally 2 episodes, turned Jon from a leader in to a follower in half a season, Made Jaime betray the new life he built for himself in one episode, etc etc etc.
When Arya climbed atop the "Pale Mare" and rode off I got chills. Especially after the burned child with her mother had a burned horse toy. My exact thoughts were well, Danerys is so dead because that is Death on a Pale Horse riding off.
I think that’s what they want us to believe.. but that isn’t gonna happen
Indeed, or perhaps Arya will try to kill her and Jon will have to do it instead.
I wished they had Jon be the one to kill the Night King and Arya be the one to kill Daenerys. And then Jon is put into exile because he helps Arya escape on the ships.
They kinda forgot about the horse.
Daenerys wasn't triggered by the bells. She decided this after she executed Varys and didn't shared her plan to anyone. When she was talking to Jon after, she kissed him because she thought maybe they can rule together. But he rejected her and then she says "alright, then all I have is fear". At this point she felt betrayed by Varys, Sansa, Jon and also she was jealous of Jon's position in eyes of common people. I wish they've showed much longer path of Daenerys going mad though. Directors of this show sucks. HBO offered them to shoot one more season, but they refused to switched to some other project. And now we have this 6 episodes of speed run.
I think she wanted the city obliterated and Cersei dead. Cersei's army surrendering wasn't enough for her. She wanted completed destruction and no one to live.
I mean....season 8 definitely felt rushed but over the other 7 season daenerys had her hints of "going crazy" moments
the problem is they just showed us one clip where she looked miserable after Missandei's death... which is not enough... everything she did throughout the show, was valid. When she killed the Khals? She was protecting herself and getting an army at the same time... She could have leave with Mormont and her lover but she went back because she wanted the Dothroky army... She didn't kill the innocent people... but this is just crazy! out of nowhere... she was good and then boom burn them all...?
Late reply I know but you’re right. What’s wild is that D+D turned down HBO’s offer of 10 seasons (I think?) because they were writing for Star Wars. They ruined the finale of this show and it’s pacing in seasons 7 and 8 because of this. Kicker is it was for nothing, they were fired from Star Wars
What was Missandei’s last words. “DRACARYS”. The look on Daenerys face after Cersei killed Missandei said it all. Why is anyone shocked she burned Kings Landing down.
Cersei walking away from the Clegane drama lmao.
She YEEET! outta there XD
"Don't mind me. I don't want to get in the way"
love that.
Love that scene, Queen Cersei peace out. Lol...
Would Have rather the Hound just trip her down the stairs and her break her Neck than how she went
Past seasons: You know nothing Jon Snow.
Season 8: You do nothing Jon Snow
Rest in piece Jon snow, you aren't dead but your character basics are
Was or was not that his scorched body with longclaw?
Sansa to Jon, "I told you". Jon broke with House Stark to follow his queen.
Silentchato He’s been such a disappointment to me in s7 and has done NOTHING of note in s8 except silently go along with Dany.
well in the end he will be the one who kills dany and grey worm.but yeah it was like the writers didn't know what to do with him the last 2 seasons. he was just there..
Danny went from 7 seasons locking up her Dragons because one child died and freeing slaves. To burning children within two or three episodes. 😂
Well, moral of the story, don't kill the best friend of a woman who has dragons. And when two bitches are fighting over a throne, it's best to get your peasant ass out of the city and to the country side, ASAP!
She kind of forgot why she locked up her dragons when she returned to Meereen in season 6.
Thank you
She talked about destroying the entire city from day 1! Fan girls fuming over it haha
She was speaking of burning entire cities to the ground for seasons, especially the cities of Slavers Bay.
On the bright side with a million less mouths to feed sansa should be able to gather enough to feed the 10 people left at winterfell😂
The wildlife you see at 6:50 was not from Cersei trying to blow up the city anyways.
It was the hidden deposits of Wildfire from the Mad King, that were rumored to be hidden amongst Kings Landing
Aidan Doran lol. It was no rumor. They were there. Everyone knew about it and they supposedly used the last of the wildfire to blow up innocent people in the Sept or Baelor.
Tim DePaulis what do u mean they used the last of it? Clearly there was still some left over that the dragons fire triggered the explosions of
@@timdepaulis2487 NO ! Not everyone knew about it !!
And they did this to show us that daenerys is truly her father's daughter she completed what he was about to do before he died .
Ragnarok I never said she planned on sacrificing the people. And it was technically a rumor, because it wasn’t confirmed until this episode that the Mad Kings wildfire was still existent in Kings Landing.
They weren't rumoured. Jaime literally says about the wildfire everywhere in the scene with Brienne when hes in the bath/spa thing
i cry like a baby when the Hound died ... and when Aria thank him.
I was always consider the Hound as Aria's second father
Arya
I’ve always thought of Arya and the hound as a father/daughter relationship he was definitely her second father
Thanks you just made me cry for the umpteenth time urgh! lol
Jon snow's radio is stuck at ‘she’s my queen’💀
Meanwhile Sansa is sitting in The North like TOLDJA!
Hate to say but Joffrey was right about worrying about Daenerys in season 3 and Tywin was wrong not to.
"Tell me about the Targaryen girl in the east and her dragons"
Where did you hear about this?
"Is it true?"
Apparently so.
"Don't you think we ought to do something about it?"
When I was Hand of the King under your father's predecessor, the skulls of all the Targaryen dragons were kept in this room. The skull of the last of them was right here. It was the size of an apple.
"And the biggest was the size of a carriage"
Yes, and the creature to whom it belonged died 300 years ago. Curiosities on the far side of the world are no threat to us.
"But how do we know these dragons are just curiosities and not the beasts that brought the whole world to heel?"
wow good point
Joffrey was not an idiot. Cold and calculating, like his mother, and able to play politics. But, he was fatally flawed by being an extreme sadist and sociopath, which is why no one would take him seriously.
"The whoooooooooore is pregnant" - Robert Baratheon
Joffrey the wise! Seriously, if he wasn't such an awful shit he could have been a good ruler.
Joffrey is smirking in the seventh hell
The Hound had the most badass death in the show. Hands down.
How about that cinematography. The sky the broken staircase, the fire, the dragon flying by and these two titans facing off. Just breathtaking!!
his & lyanna mormont’s!
IMO easily the best part of the episode. Cersei deserved a worse death and the closing of Jaime’s arc was trash
He was the only one who chose his exit. every other character was tricked, or ambushed, or deceived, or humiliated before they were killed. Or at the very best they died honourably, but there was no way to leave alive.
The Hound could've lived. But he CHOSE to kill himself because that would kill his brother.
Arya and Sandor Clegane are my favourite characters, separately and together. They loved and respected each other. This episode wrecked me emotionally.
Cheers to the best duo this show had. Rest easy, Sandor. You deserve rest.
Same!! From the very beginning 💯
Question: My biggest problem of the season was how they resolved the bran/NK storyline. Initially after seeing episode three, I thought the only plot purpose of the NK was to weaken danerys's army so the last fight w/ cersei would be fair, and that was a huge disappointment. But even that turned out to be false, the fight wasn't fair at all. So what exactly was the purpose of the NK? The WW's were the first scene in the first episode, and were referred to throughout the entire show as some unstoppable force. Yet they did nothing to impact the story except kill off some side characters. Also, what was the purpose of Bran? He's supposed to be the most powerful being in the universe and his only purpose seemed to be an exposition machine on wheels. I was still holding out hope that he would do something cool this episode but it looks like his story really is over.
Yes exactly. I actually liked this episode. The problem lies in the first four episodes.
You know, I read a lot of fantasy novel. And always we know the end, the grey characters will die, the evil characters will die. Here, the hero is not the hero, the new hero is not able to save the city. Bran is just a child with the knowledge of the world without knowing what to do with it. Jon cannot accept he is the rightful king because he is still the bastard in his head. Sansa learns to play cards with everyone, except the right person. Arya is the assassin with a big heart but losing her focus on what is important. Danyeris is a girl searching love and not finding it. Jaime is persecuted by his father and sister, but need their approval. Tyrion found a purpose to live with the task of the defense of King's Landing but lost it with the perfidy of his lover, after Shea he was never the same. Cercei try to be accepted by her father by doing unbelievable things but failed it. Add the magic, the dragon. This is the best because still one episode left and we do not know what will happen.
Maybe not yet
For real. And what did bran even do. All this prophecy about how bran is the key to defeating the night king and all he was good for was flying inside of a fucking Raven.
Night King: I'm the main villain!
Cersei: Hold my beer!
Daenerys: Hold my Starbucks!
Hahahaha
* Cersei: Hold my wine
PerfectXD
@@anetttorok7512 beat me to it 😭😂
Sam: hold my water bottle
Notice how Arya looks like young Ned when she is filmed from behind with her hair more open.
I thought that too. Ned would have been so proud 💔
And that part with Sandor yelling "LOOK AT ME" did also sound the exact same to when that guy grabbed her to stop her from watching her dad get executed.
I thought she looked like a mini John.
@@whosfelicia5328 That too. They've been matching their hairstyle and clothing style a lot lately.
I was gonna say she looks like young Lyana from bran’s vision!!!
I know many will hate me for saying this but SANSA WAS RIGHT!
Daenerys: He never should have trusted Cersei
Sansa Stark: You never should have, either
Outsome: Cersei outsmarted them
Sansa Stark: Men do stupid things for women. They're easily manipulated
Outcome: Jon was blinded by Dany's "Do you love me?" card
Sansa Stark: The men we have left are exhausted. Many of them are wounded. They'll fight better if they have time to rest and recuperate
Outcome: As Dany forced Rhaegal to fly back south still wounded with torn up wings and all, he was easily killed
Sansa Stark: We don't trust your queen
Outcome: Dany gone Mad Queen Exhibit A
Tyrion: She loves your brother
Sansa: That doesn't make make a good queen
Outcome: Dany gone Mad Queen Exhibit B
Jon: And how should I be smarter? By listening to you?
Sansa Stark: Would that be so terrible?
Outcome: He supported a tyranical genocidal mad queen
Sansa did learn how the world works, the only problem Jon never trust her because of what she was as a child. Sansa and Davos are the only ones who understand how people behave. Sansa did not take the time to befriend Davos, and that is the big mistake. Sansa and Davos have more commons sense. A pity she did not trust him to help her with Jon.
Sansa is literally the best Stark. No surprise I'd say. She learnt from the best after all.
RIP Littlefinger
@@FirdausMTB Sansa went from one of my least favorite character to one of my top ones. Cersei's snide wit, Littlefinger's cunning, Ned's devotion to the north, Cat's devotion to her family. Fortitude to stand firm from overcoming Ramsy. She took the best the people around her had to build from and now I want to see her on the throne in the end.
Assumption: Jon kills Dany to end her mad tyranny, then refuses the throne out of weariness and sorrow. Who comes into the throne? I have two ideas, and both involve Sansa in power in the North, at least. These are fanciful predictions and wishful thinking; I assume there are swiss-cheese-like holes in them.
1) Due to Cersei having been a rightful ruler, and Jon and Dany being out of the picture in this scenario, would the Lannister line be considered the line of succession? If so, Tyrion could be king. He could wed Sansa, and with her as queen, the next generation would have claim to the North in a way the northmen could accept. Problem- Tyrion is not beloved of the people and he was the hand of the queen that burned down KL. Might raise a few issues...
2) Forget the Lannisters! With the last Targaryens out of the way, it's next Beratheon up. Dany may have gone nuts, but the men of the north witnessed her make Gendry legit prior to her fall. Make him king and he wouldn't fight the northerners' desire to be independent, leaving Lady Stark as the ruler in the north. If Arya decides that she might not be a Lady, but she doesn't want to end up like the Hound either, she might decide that being with Gendry is worth it- after all, when she's queen, who's going to tell her how to act, anyway? North and south united in marriage and a king with ties to and sympathies for the common folk is on the throne (Davos as Hand? Fleabottom represent!)
Any other moderately non-disastrous end seems to me to put Sansa in control in the north. I'm fine with that.
@@@hqueso same. I just hate how incompetent she is before but now she's my favorite. I really like your first theory but like you said, people won't be too happy with a former Hand of the Mad Queen as their King. I think Bran would play an important role in the last episode because so far, he's done nothing outstanding yet.
@@hqueso That would be funny, Gendry and Arya ruling
Steven's take on how different Cersei and Daenarys are; that Cersei is not mad, evil yes but not mad; i 100% agree. Plus points on him :) was saying yes yes the whole time.
Btw the wild fire wasn't cersei it was hidden long ago by the mad king.He but secret stashes of it every where
Oh yeah, that's what I was suspected
Yeah, don't bet on it. Cersei's real motto.......by any means necessary.
@@7pontiff very true but feel like they would have mentioned it
iirc the stashes from the mad king were put to use by tyrion didnt they?
Cersei had wild fire made and stored it all over the place thats what went up
You know. I don't think Daenerys would have turned mad if she just did what I said back then and stayed in Mereen where she WAS a loved ruler and on the continent where she actually grew up.
She should have never gone to Westeros.
Yep, she had many possibilities but that's what makes her so great as a character.
@@blacksesamecandies I agree. And it is totally plausible. Dany was never 100% good. No character in GoT is. All her live choices and what happened to her made her what she is now. Everything was possible at one point. A view changes and Dany might be a completely different character. And that's what makes Game of Thrones special in my oppinion^^
She didnt turn mad in this episode. She turned juvenile. The Mad King was never "mad" with rage. He was "mad" because he thought he could burn himself to be reborn as a dragon.
She should have stayed in her cave
She would have still gone mad...the targaryen geenes
Cersei lost the physical war, Cersei won against Daenerys psychologically . (Destroyers her mind)
Not really..i dont think Cersei wanted her to destroy the whole city💀
so cersei is the joker and denaerys is 2face?
UnluckyGambler lmAO basically
I wouldn't exactly call that a victory, considering... 😅
It got her killed, so…
"Poor writing" because it is. Why is Brandon Stark all the sudden supremely useless. Why build him up for 7 seasons, only to have him do literally nothing more than AFK? What is his purpose? Why would Dany burn the entire city to the ground, after spending years upon years investing time, money, and preparation to take it, and rule it, only to burn the entire thing to the ground, and make literally EVERYONE turn against her and her dragon? Why would, in episode 3, they send all the women and children to the crypts, knowing full-well the Night King RESURRECTS CORPSES to fight for his army? Why was the Night King built up for 7 seasons, to die in a single episode? Why did the Night King persue Bran at all? He didn't show that he had some immense power or anything of the sort. What WAS Bran doing, when the Night King was killing everyone? Why wasn't he using the crows to scout the location of the King to Dany and Jon or something, literally anything? How did Unsullied and Dothraki die by the thousands to the wights, while Samwell Tarly had supreme plot armor on and was laying on a wall of corpses, and when the NK rez'ed them he is somehow still alive? How the fuck did Dany not suspect or rather, even see the Iron Fleet when Rhaegal died? She literally can see the farthest of any person, being half a mile into the sky. How the f was Euron accurate as hell with the shot to Rhaegal, when it was his first shot, from extremely far away? I can go on, and on, and on, pointing out SHITTY writing for this season, but you guys already see this shit. This entire season is basically D&D seeing some super fan figure out the ending, and now they want to "surprise" us, by changing everything, because people saw through their foreshadowing, and now literally nothing makes sense. Why bother to show Nymeria's wolf pack if your not going to bother to use it at all. Why mention that Ghost would have a lot of screen time this season, and then completely lie about it? Why at the end of a recap did one of the producers mention that Dany "forgot" about the Iron Fleet after she spent several episodes and seasons being very concerned about the Iron Fleet. Where the F is Yara, sitting on the Iron Islands? There is so much bullshit with this last season it's incredible.
Oh look, more shitty writing in the last episode. Tyrion tells Jon, go kill Dany so she won't be queen, you can choose to be king. He's a prisoner of treason, but gets to decide suddenly who is the next King. The person he selects, is Bran, who on MULTIPLE OCCASIONS declined LORD of Winterfell, but didn't turn down KING because of his 3-eyed raven bs. Sooooo many inconsistencies. So much disappointment. Also just to say it, D&D were offered an additional TWO MORE SEASONS to write Game of Thrones, as it did so well. They declined, in pursuit of.... fucking star wars... Not that I hate star wars, just "new" star wars. Disney crap. They literally rushed and spoon fed us this bullshit, so they could move on.
Geminei half the shit u said is just shit
KD eeZ way to admit you don’t understand how badly written it is, you are a complete brainlet.
This is ALL true. Oh and if all that wasn't bad enough they left water bottles and Starbucks cups in the fucking shots. That alone is a testament to how little fucks they gave about season 8.
Honestly I think Bran was playing a much bigger game. He was playing the game of throne without anyone really noticing. Those raven he send during the battle with the ww? If you look closely right before Dany turns mad you can see a bunch of raven arriving at the red keep making Dany believe those were send from Varys spilling the secret that she isn't the rightful heir to the throne. But Varys never got to send those raven. So who sent out that many raven at once? It was Bran. Knowing that this would be the last push for Dany to turn mad and leaving her in her eyes no other choice but burning the whole city so nobody would know her secret, making him king in the end. He planned it. And that explains Brans quote towards the end which seemed very random.
Season 7 Daenerys: I'm not here to be queen of the ashes
Season 8 Daenerys: New season, new me
PS: I know it's not a sudden change in her character but this is how it feels because of how they rushed into her becoming mad queen
Season 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and Books "dany": "When my dragons grow up i Will take what is mine and Burn their cities".
@@Matt-fw6rh That's what I say
😂😂
@@Matt-fw6rh I remember all the way back in season 2 when the marchants of Qarth first denied her entrance to their city, the first thing she said is that she would come back when her dragons were fully grown and burn the city to the ground. That impulse was always part of her character.
She is always like this inside if you watched carefully you would've known.
Love the whole Dr. Frankenstein killed by his own creation story with Qyburn and The Mountain.
Yes! That was probably the one thing I imagined for this episode that happened like I pictured it.
I feel so dumb! I totally missed that!
Don't care what anyone says. This episode was freaking AWESOME.
word
I personally didnt like the story behind it but I go give some visual and audio credit. Like fuck, the music when Dany started setting everything on fire...
3:29 "Revenge is a dangerous thing" absolutely spot on Steven.
The Mountain was more scary and harder to kill then the night king ever was
Now I want to see The Mountain vs The Night King
that’s coz the hound didnt have catspaw! lol
@@darkeninjx5619 Mountain Night haha
Did you notice his SITH eyes?
@@darkeninjx5619 Night king throw a few ice lance on the mountain. Pinning him down 3-4 times with huge lance. The mountain can't do shit. Night king win.
Cinematography: 10/10
Directing: 10/10
Effects: 10/10
Action: 10/10
Music: 10/10
Writing: -873/10
Is that an ‘Ideas of Ice and Fire’ reference? If so, love it.
Facts.
what makes the writing poor?
What was so bad about this episode???
I think the writing has improved. People are just to caught up in what the want to happen, so as soon as something happens that doesn't fit their picture they call it trash.
I think Arya has a new name on her list.
Yeah exactly
With a Valyrian dagger next to it.
Shes always wanted to kill the queen 😌
There are a lot of upset reactors/Dany fans out there today. I know because I have watched most of them. The one thing that came to my mind in watching this episode is that, throughout the course of the series, Daenerys has had the best of intentions but has relied on her advisers to keep her worst instincts in check. Now that half her advisers are dead and she does not trust Jon or Tyrion anymore she no longer has anyone to balance things out. I think when the Bells rang she just thought to herself that she had not made them pay enough for what they had taken from her. That by surrendering, Cersei and the city were depriving her of the vengeance she was determined to inflict on them.
And I know you have been saying Jon needs to take her out but I say look out for Arya. It is hard for me to believe that she will be able to let go of what she saw happening inside those walls.
Still doesn't explain why Dany chose to slaughter the innocents rather than go to Red Keep. Remember the time when Dany chained her two "babies" because they roasted a child?
Arya and the blue eyes... dany has blue eyes right?
@@robertselagon4277 I dont understand how people cant understand simple human psychology. During war, even good people lose their minds. You can find many stuff about this. Just check out WW2 - here are many memories about people who were good, but during war, during long years of war - they just became insane.
because no human is truly evil. You can't just "snapped" without any other factors that contributed to it. Yes Dany has lost her BFF, dragons & advisers and were legit reasons for her to go insane but the fault is the way they framed that into the narrative. We all expected she would go into Mad Queen route but not at this rushed pace. All 7 seasons Dany has been the "breaker of chains". She killed her enemies & not innocents. The writers rushed this development just to advance the plot and left us hanging with no explanation of why she suddenly decided to massacre half the population. They could've moved the dragon killing from last episode to this episode and that would've made much more sense
@@robertselagon4277 Do you read my comment?
When Dany told Greyworm you will know when to attack. I believe she knew that Greyworm would not stop until he had his revenge
him tossing Missandei's collar to the fire could be a sing to Deanerys to just let it burn or more accurately to burn Them all.
How is killing innocent people helping getting his revenge thou?
I think grey worm would have followed his queens orders to the letter no matter what that ment. Of all the deaths in game of thrones, people should be complaining about his the most. Because he is without question super dead. And Danny without question burned him alive without a second thought. Or a first one for that matter.
D4rk Inside it’s not, people are just trying to defend the God awful writing this season
You guys are such pussies lol, his only reason for living now is Dany and he’s gonna follow her to the end no matter what. I’m glad we gotta see innocent people getting killed in a horrible manner, you usually never see women and children getting killed lol it’s usually just soldiers and men. Here we see death all around and I enjoyed it. This is revenge cause missandei herself told them to basically burn them all. She finally became a dragon
"When a Targaryen is born, the Gods Flip A Coin" looks like we know what side it landed on.
Malcolm Purple heads or wut?
and jon is also a targaryen who’s dad is an incest baby yet Varys(nor anyone) questions him lol
And we can't act like no one contributed to her "insanity" by isolating her in a foreign land when she literally has sacrifised the most for the good of the realm yet everyone abandons her cause Jon is true heir yet he doesnt want it but ok abandon her anyway.....not saying i agree but it wasn't a coin flip, it was drug out of her
Nevi1097 maybe because he doesn’t burn innocents alive. Jon has proved himself time and time again, uniting the wildlings, dying for his own people, retaking winter fell, etc... dany literally has a slave army, which were “set free” yet all they know is fighting and brutality so why would they leave her side. Oh yeah and her other army is filled with a bunch of people who are rapists and murderers. So yeah, it’s obvious why people like Jon over dany
Because Jon isn’t JUST targ like Dany. He’s also stark and therefore has the stark honour and values.
I love you, Daenerys Targaryen, the Mother of Dragons, The Queen of Seven Kingdoms, the last Pure-blooded Targaryen. Such a MASSIVELY and Dramatically TRAGIC and BEAUTIFUL-Beyond-Words character!
Am ok with everything she did btw. Igaf! They all betrayed her and she was obviously the strongest with dragons, unsullied and dothraki by her side. Idk why ppl feel that Jon Snow should be king just bc he is male. So where are equal rights now. Hotd happened before GOT so it means queens could lead. The same way ppl ship for Rhaenyra they should have been on Dany's side . She was Queen material unlike Jon Snow who was obviously a follower. He could lead but he still always needed guidance from a greater powerful figure. That was clear for everyone to see. Even Varys said she was too strong for him. Ppl just wanted Dany to submit to Jon which would have been stupid and completely idiotic for her character. We all followed her from season 1 with hopes she would finally ascend the Iron Throne. It was always the endgame for her but suddenly bc some characters have been grown a little bit, ppl have forgotten and picked favorites. Even f*cking Cersei is suddenly celebrated and mourned just bc she died while pregnant forgetting what an awful horrible human being she was. What about her war crimes? All forgotten. What happened here was a common case of victim mentality. Suddenly it doesn't matter how many ppl Dany and her dragons saved. Which is basically everyone in the world. It's about her reaction over being betrayed by literally everyone she had remained with after everyone that really loved her was dead. Having said that, I don't really think Jon Snow ever loved Dany. He just loved the idea of her. When things got a little bit sticky he was always ready to betray her. I say burn em all Queen Daenerys of House Targaryen. First of her name. Queen of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First men. Rightful heir to the Iron Throne. Protector of the realm. Mother of dragons and breaker of chains !!🔥
"Jon doesn't agree with this shit".... LMAO
Dany stopped eating and drinking to avoid being poisoned
For 2weeks I'm sure. Tyrion said in ep4 "it'll take John a fortnight to arrive to Dragonstone"
@@ka5h95 It's not impossible to survive 2 weeks without food, only drinking water. And the first scene with Varys implies that he WAS trying to assassinate her with one of his "little birds" working in the kitchen.
Tbh, her deteriorated mind state after two weeks without food could've contributed to her going "mad".
True
Saddest part is- Robert Baratheon was right all along!
There's a war coming, Ned...
How was he right all along? He claimed Rhaegar Targaryen kidnapped and rapped Lyanna Stark as a reason to start up a rebellion against the mad king, while Lyanna was actually in love with RT and ran away together. And that basically leads to the start of this whole story. Not his fault though
@@jellymandy about a war coming, about the Dothraki being led to rape and pillage innocents, about wiping out the Targeryens than risk what happened. His rebellion was not started then- the starks sent Neds brother and father to KL to speak with the king: it was only when the mad king executed them and asked Jon Arryn to turn over his squires Ned & Robert for execution that his rebellion against the crown started, with the support of the Vale.
There's a chance history is going to repeat here with Sansa having the support of the north, the Vale, her uncle Tully with riverrun- with possibly the Dornish switching due to Varys letter. The only issue is Jon is Targaryen so he may have to abdicate and head north beyond the wall as the realm may be unwilling to have the Targaryen dynasty and the mad gene ever ruling again..
@@ShahedHussain1 I have to laugh at the fact that it were northerners raping women. But sure Robert was right all along
Joffrey was also right, when he talked to Tywin in the throne room. Joffrey was thinking about putting an end to Daenarys when she was in Essos and her dragons were young but Tywin told him "curiosities on the other side of the world are no threat to us." Boy was he wrong.
Jaime - his death was quite metaphoric really. Addicts die everyday with a needle in their arms and so too did Jaime Lannister. It shows it doesn’t matter how rich powerful you think you are, this demon is hard to overcome. Cersei was his drug, his demon, and in the end his demise.
Cersei - her world came crumbling down around her, figuratively and literally. Some people felt bad for her but not I. She got more then she deserved….she died knowing she was truly loved.
Sandor - we all knew this day was coming. The who, what, when, how. It’s just a shame Sandor doesn’t read or he would have known that revenge is a dish served COLD!!!
D&D - by giving Arya the GoT cheat codes for Invincibility, Super Jump and all the Bonus pickups ruined the show for me. I also hope Arya enjoyed the Unicorn her two daddy's gave her at the end of this episode.
Euron - upset he didn't catch on fire by Drogon so we all could have shouted "YO EURON FIRE"!!! (see what I did there)
That fucking ending with the horse was just stupid artistic padding. Arya rides out of the city and next episode, she's with Jon at the Red Keep, lmao. What was the point of it?
I feel when John couldnt give her the love that she so despartly wanted and needed from him. Thats why when he pulled back from the last kiss she said, "very well, let it be fear." If John couldve given her the love she wanted this probably wouldve turned out differently. She was then all alone in the world with to much hurt in her soul to control.
Yep. 2 of her 3 children dead, her 2 closest companions in Jorah and Missandei also dead, all 4 dying brutally in front of her
@@cheesepie72 Arya went through much worse , don't justify her action .
Oh boohoo poor Daenerys didn’t get Jon’s love so she burned KL..... do even heard yourself? This has been foreshadowed since season 1! Jon didn’t love Daenerys, hell when said it, it was after her execution of Varys, threatening Sansa and a rant at how no one in Westeros loves her, but they do love him. He’s terrified of her and what she’ll do to his family. It was never love for him. He never acted in love. Don’t blame Jon for her actions. He’s been through shit too, but you don’t see him burning a city full of innocents to the ground!
@@kazetoame You might want to learn the difference between being sympathetic of someones past and agreeing with someones actions. Because you've obviously confused the two as one of the same.
Yup, they turned Danaerys Targaryen, Breaker of Chains and Mother of Dragons into a fucking incel. Fabulous writing. Emilia Clarke and the character deserved so much better than this bullshit.
Arya - “I’m going to kill Cersei”
Bricks - “Hold my cement!”
This deserves more upvotes.
BNS Mark It’s a copy&Paste comment
Mortar would be more accurate
As the architects say, earthquakes don't kill people, buildings kill people.
I laughed at this more than I should.
Arya and the Hound's final scene was very emotional. The Hound and the Mountain fight was awesome. And Lena Headey did an amazing job in actually getting me to to feel sorry for Cersei in the end.
Cersei has always been sympathetic to me, I'm sure largely because of Lena Headey. Even though she was deplorable most of the time as a person, she did have a sympathetic story.
I had as much sympathy for Cersei as I had for Janos Slynt in his final moments.
Mayhemm007 which should be zero
childofthorn omg right! I felt so sad for her
Christina Gmiterko been a bit since I read the books but I’m sure she’s a more sympathetic character in the show. I mean you just need to look at some of the shit she’s been through. Married to Robert Baratheon, Joffrey as a kid, a father like Tywin, two of her kids murdered with the other basically signing her death warrant and finally being dragged through the streets naked with piss and shit thrown all over you. It’s no wonder she’s insane or near enough.
I like that you guys acknowledge that people should've seen this coming from Daenerys. Rewatching all her scenes leading up to this, the madness had always been with her and it reached a breaking point.
Um no. This was the worst writhing decision in the history of media. Even worse than Luke in tlj
@@bryce____1114 Right? The worst. Also, I wouldn't call Danny mad, it's just that at the end, she changed her ideology based on the life changing events, her views were extreme, but I won't call it "madness".
Exactly. She has shown signs of being insane leading up to this. I'm not surprised at all that the show culminated to this end. Her mindset was Iron Throne or nothing the whole show and wiping out a million innocents was not seen as a problem because in her mind, her being in power was the ultimate good for the world. She snapped when Missandei was murdered and her second dragon was speared. She had this entitled and arrogant attitude the whole show and glared at people who criticized her as though she would flame them for questioning her authority.
@@asantesamuel13 Foreshadowing =/= development
nah dude I don't agree at all. you could call Arya mad with the same logic. her actions all throughout the series could be considered insane too.
RIP to two forgotten characters. Ellaria Sand who was forced to watch her daughter die and Septa Unella who never got to see Cersei's face one more time before she died
Yeah…though to be fair I’m not crying over those two. They kinda deserved what they got.
Agreed. I loved Ellaria with Oberyn but hated what she became. Oberyn would never have condoned what she did. @@jjh2456
7 years ago, Season 2, Episode "Valar Morghulis" in the House of the Undying, the shot of Dany standing in the Iron Throne room in the Red Keep, with the roof torn off and ashes everywhere, such a long wait it has been.
Zerofever it was snow. there was icicles on the ceiling and pillars. poorly written final season
oh yes i remember
@@Glupshitto911 it is snowing next episode
Remember winter is here
@@Glupshitto911 it was not snow go back and watch it again !!!
Garrett Woodin yeah yeah yeah lol
An absolutely insane episode. And the death that made me cry the most was Sandor Clegan :( RIP The Hound .....he fought his way into my heart ♥♥♥
The wildfire exploding wasnt cersei. It was the wildfire caches the mad king had placed around the city, the ones he ordered to be exploded when robert had won
When I watched Arya at the end, I thought of this verse: And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.
same
Revelations
That quote, Revelations 6:2 is a bit different in my French bible
"And I saw, and beheld a white horse: and upon it sat he who held a bow, and hellfire followed him."
Interesting to see the differences in languages. I'd argue the French one is more accurate, but that's just my bias.
@@evanvera22 *Revelation
@@TsarofScars There are several different versions, I think I used the King James version.
Dany in S7: I’m not here to be queen of the ashes.
Dany in S8: oh, wait. Nevermind.
D&D: I bet you weren't expecting that!
Congratulations to Dany. Burn them all.
Westeros is pure shit.
Firstly she wanted to burn KL to the ground, but Tyrion convinced her not to do that. And now after all this loses she just did what she planned to do.
Littlefinger jealous.
@@sweetserieskiller she wanted to burn it to win the throne. She already had won when she started this massacre
Steven: "I gotta feeling Jon and Grey Worm are gonna fight". ME TOO!! Did you see how Grey Worm looked at Jon? They are totally going toe to toe next episode.
*Sorry to disappoint you.*
@@starhunter9085 they disappointed everyone
Aerys in Hell "That is my daughter!"
😭😭😭😭😭
BYE
Moments that made me cry:
- When Tyrion held Varys' arm before his death
- Jaime and Tyrio's goodbye
- When the hound held the back of Arya's head.
- And then just the crush of humanity was a constant emotional knot in my throat.
And Jaime's death and Sandor's death:(
And those soldiers that surrendered
And all those fucking innocent people like wtf
Saddest part: Cercei dying
@@tooiiiootbunny5800 ikr, that made me sad aswell
R.I.P. To Sandor The Hound Clegane one of the most badass characters in GoT
I think the not eating was because she knew she had a traitor in her camp. I think Varys was trying to poison her, then she felt everyone betrayed her and the bells tolling was a reminder that Tyrion kept saying if you hear the bells toll call off the fight. Maybe Dany thought that Tyrion made some deal with Cersei and felt she couldn’t trust Tyrion or the plan. The show is going to make us have to choose between these two beloved characters Jon and Dany . We have been cheering these two on from the beginning. And now we will have to choose. 😩
Dany is now the villain. Anyone who burns thousands of innocent children alive is evil.
dany did the right thing I don't care, everyone underestimated her from day one and now she showed them that's never gonna happen again... especially because she's dead but anyway
I obviously in the hardcore Daenerys fan but I too want to hear from her I want to know exactly what she was thinking in this moment. I'm fine with revenge by the way I mean they took everything from her
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Well she destroyed the wheel... Queen of the Ashes
jon to dany in 7x3: "you'll be ruling over a graveyard"
Dany is a war machine! Maybe she killed everyone since she realized she lost jon and she'd not get throne, so just for whom the bell tolls, kill em' all
She became the wheel, rolling over the guilty and innocent alike, crushing them under the weight of the Iron Throne. Madness.
Gentle hearted Dany: “I’m not here to be queen of the ashes.”
Mother of Dragons: “LOL”
The wheel are all noble houses, the political system itself. So she didn't destroy anything really. She would if she took over and then slowly stripped them of power consolidating it for herself through reforms and then eventually stepped down, if the new order was established and stable [could be some elective form of governance, or a council of elders, like she did in Slaver's Bay].
If anything, she fractured the wheel into many small wheels. With the capitol burned, it's likely that after she's dead [and she's just made enough enemies to be as good as dead] Westeros will devolve back into smaller warring kingdoms with their own internal conflicts reignited as well.
She knew that she wasn't followed by love and affection jon was. So she burned to city to make them follow her by fear. That's what I got from it at least
And witnessing the city abandon an unloved queen was what clenched it for her.
Dread creates rebellion.
@Eru Ilúvatar When has she not been? Her stance has always been that the people will have freedom, provided it is the freedom supplied by her and under her rule. Those that disagree will burn.
Allow me to describe a scene: The monarch stands before the lord that challenged their rule- and failed in that challenge. Mercy has been advised by one of the monarch's most respected counselors. That counselor learned at the foot of their father, Tywin Lannister. Tywin never held to mercy for its own stake. On the rare occasions he used it, it was for control. This was no soft-hearted plea, but a rational view of how the monarch could strengthen their own position. But the monarch rejects the advice. They give a self-serving proclamation that their actions are in support of justice, and give the order to their favorite executioner to kill the lord.
Is this Joffrey executing Ned Stark, or Dany executing Lord Tarly? In one case we hate the monarch and love the lord, in the other we love the monarch and hate the lord. But both find it easy to execute those that defy them. Both monarchs even have their sanity cast into doubt due to being the result of incestuous parentage. The only thing keeping Dany in the dubious role of Benevolent Tyrant was being loved. When that went away, she became just a tyrant. And I've been expecting it for most of the series. I felt that once she realized Westeros didn't think of her as their "Mhysa," they'd awaken the dragon.
A Targaryan alone in the world is a terrible thing. As in "terrible: likely to cause terror."
She DESTROYED the city, who's left to "fear" her? This episode was complete and total bullshit. Anyone not killed outright is going to hate her, the country is going to hate her. Danaerys Targaryen, who locked up her dragons when Drogon possibly burned one child, would not have done this. D&D completely character assassinated her, this wasn't earned at all. Two episodes ago Dany waa fighting for the survival of mankind, now she's committing mass murder? No, not my Danaerys Targaryen.
@Google User cuz you’re simple minded fam
Stark 'thank you' = your death
Also: the editing during "Clegane Bowl" was award worthy.
Also Also: Building on your T-shirt, we need a "It's not you - It was me" graphic.
Thanos: "You should've gone for the head"
The mountain: "Lol thats cute"
everyone: Jamie's not that dumb he's going to kill Cersei
showrunners: wait what?
He did though...he didn't put a knife through her back, but he brought her down to a collapsible area. He got her killed, and as far as prophecies go, there's really no difference.
@@mahockey3 she was gonna die either way, so he didn't do anything
@@lucamaddox4403
Maybe not if she just went out by the front door...
It has nothing to do with being dumb. It has everything to do with Jamie being a unique character who's morals were never set in stone.
He loves cercei
Dany has said she would burn cities to the ground in the past.
After she had been mocked by a ruler of Qarth and leaved outside the city to die.
Everyone after S8E4: Burn it all!!!!
Everyone after S8E5: OMG!! WHAT IS SHE DOING?!?!?!
Dany had that look in her eye. (btw major props to Emilia Clarke who has been SENSATIONAL in s8!! Give this girl and Emmy!)
She already has one
Re3Ns Sadly, you are wrong.
Good thing the Golden Company was there to do absolutely nothing.
They're now known as The Golden Kindling.
🤣👀
Maybe if they had had Elephants, who knows? :P
But the elephants are okay at least!
Vidal Chavez I know! After all the gold the Lannister’s had in their bank! I’d be demanding refunds!
*not me just crying while watching this at 5am like im watching it for the first time*
The CLEGANE BOWL brings to an end a chapter in SANDOR's life that changed him for the better, his relationship with Arya... . . And also for ARYA, because this relationship allow her to regain her humanity at the end
She has accepted that she can't inspire loyalty from her own people. Not like how Jon can. That and the fact that her claim to the Throne isn't as strong as Jon's and everyone is slowly turning towards Jon as the King. Her control is slipping and if her closest advisers start turning on her then everyone else will too eventually. Which is why she decided on fear. And what better way to instill fear than melting an entire capital down in minutes. Funny how the power you root for at the beginning of the episode is the same power you revile by the end of it.
Her killing innocent people is still pretty stupid writing though. At worst she would've just become a depressed queen after the battle whom the Westerosi dont care about and she spends her days in dragonstone. The writers just gotta hammer in the idea that apparently she's always been mad, even though she never was and ignore here character development
Creepy Closet Her character development has only descended into madness ever since she bought the Unsullied and burned Astapor.
Seeing this made me wish Stannis ruled Kings Landing.
Nah. He deserved to die, for burning his child alive .
@@briancromartie3149 except he didn't kill his daughter in the books, that was just another case of D&D butchering the source material for some shock value
@@briancromartie3149 I mean they are both bad but look at what Dany just did.
Big Boss yeah Melisandre had Stannis thinking he was the second coming of Jesus which is why he ended up doing what he did. He’s a pretty good example of a tragic hero but it was executed horribly in the show.
If Robert was alive non of all this BS would’ve happened he wanted to kill Danny while she was a child cuz he knew this will happen
And this is why I love this show.. because In last weeks episode after Rheagal and Missendie death , we were ALL saying burn it down. And even at the beginning of this fight we are cheering her on! Yeah! Take that! And with one turn of a moment we are seeing all this horror unfold in front of us , in disbelief. This is the realities of war, when the hero’s can become the bad guy, when someone has been pushed to the point of no return. How do we know where that line is ? How do we push someone just enough to make them go to war , but be able to pull them back from crossing that line. It is such a wide gray space. I think these nuances of the show get so over looked and are the most underrated parts of the show. They get lost on most fans over plots and story arcs or what we as fan think should happen then we get upset when it didn’t go like we want. People start yelling the show sucks or bad writing . When in reality they are truly missing the best of the show. Which is how it can take from routing burn it down , to omg she is burning it down!
A dragon is not a pet. It's a weapon of mass destruction.
Dany was doing what Greyworms girlfriend said before dying. Burn them all
That's what I gathered. Missandei's "DRACARYS" was "ordering" her queen to burn the city down.
dracarys means dragon fire
John Smith they didn’t do anything wrong I actually love this scene because both her children died and her bestfriend as well to by the hands of Cersei and everything she did was for revenge and I partially agree with it as well if they found out Jon snow is the true heir they won’t side with her but with fear they will
@John Smith Oh I know what "dracarys" means, I'm saying that Missandei was telegraphing a message to her queen. There was more to read into her shout, the rage in her tone. Dany's been threatening to burn cities to the ground since the early books and on the show.
''Greyworms girlfriend'' has a name, you know
Honestly the ends dont justify the means. She has become everything she hated.
It appears to be the ending they're going for with most characters. Sansa is essentially Cersei and Littlefinger. Bran is more or less Hodor, having lost himself in exchange for his powers. Until this episode, Arya was on the road to being an unrepentant killer. It appears Jon is destined to turn against the woman he loves yet again. The Starks will end up on top, but at what cost?
Gabriel Celeste Thanos agrees
That's not even the end justify the means situation, because they've already surrendered, so, the main goal was achieved, what happened after that was just a plain massacre for no reason at all.
I'm for the ends justify the means when it actually applies and no other way to avoid it. What she did was just ruthlessness with no political nor strategic goal in mind.
@@malifex9922 maybe the show's ultimate message is that wealth and power aren't the ultimate goals in life,especially if you have to lose loved ones one the way.i mean if stanis had the throne,would he have been happy then after losing his family? will daenerys feel satisfied ruling in ashes after losing husband ,kid,dragons,bff,daario,jorah,ser barristan?
@TheNorth Remembers She intentionally betrayed Jon in order to turn Jon's supporters against Dany's supporters, knowing full well that one of them will have to fall, which is a pretty big gamble that Jon isn't the one that falls to Dany. She's an oathbreaker to her king. If Jon had any sense in these scripts, he would have stripped her of Warden of the North for outright treason, but she's going to get away with it because we've run out of screen time.
This episode was vintage GoT! Reminds me of Shakespeare, with so much tragedy. This is what was always going to happen.
LOL! are you drunk?
It's ok. But they needed a season to made Dany like that.
They did between episodes. That's the problem.
vintage game of thrones always displayed how bad things resulted from natural circumstances. There is nothing natural about Dany committing genocide 2 episodes after she commits to fighting the night king and after 7 and a half seasons of her devoting her life to freeing slaves
This shit is ass man wdym
That's just lazy writing
The scene with the bell ringing and Dany angry face that would make the scene even better if they had included flashbacks about Dany reseeing in her mind all the things she lost and who turned her evil.
The writers had to remind us that war is not a glorious thing, and that civilians bare the brunt of the consequences of those with power.
Good point, especially considering George RR Martin is very anti-war and has related dragons to nuclear weapons.
War crimes are a real thing. Just imagine modern day airplanes dropping bombs (dragon fire is the same)! Innocents die everyday!! War is an ugly thing and so is revenge. She is angry that Cersei surrendered so easily expecting mercy, but Cersei didn’t give Dany any mercy when she asked. Dany made it personal. The ends justified her means. She chose fear and that requires brute force, especially in a foreign country. A lot of Machiavellian ideologies here. Diplomacy will maybe follow?? Just a thought.
umm. hes not anti war. he would go fight nazis in ww2 he said. but if you show war, hes wants to show the bad, the ugly along with the good..
@@CrimsonRayne Being anti-war and being a pacifist are two different things. I'm anti-war and if I were alive then I would've supported WW2 as well, because I'm not a total pacifist and I can see the then-present need for it despite my general moral objection.
Ethan L That is not why I f.....g watched this show
King Aerys II must be proud Dad to Danny 😅😑
Dany season 2: "i will take my throne with fire and blood"
Audience: "hell yes, can't wait!"
Dany seaon 8: *takes her throne with fire and blood*
Audience: *surprised pikachu face!*
Like…how can people say it was sudden
I hope if Arya has a kid she’ll name him Sandor
the hound finally got his revenge by pushing the mountain into the fire 🙌🏽
Ive literally been refreshing for half an hour😂😂😂😂
same XD
Same here. I can't believe that Nikki and Steve didn't comment on how poor Jaime and Cersie's death scene was. That was so disappointing
Me too ahaha for the last hour .. Thanks Nikki and Steve! You guys are awesome!!!
@@RJR1787 did they die? I mean is it confirmed?
Everyone's acting in this episode is incredible, that's undeniable, and so are the effects.
In all commnets of any reactions theres people that say
"If you're unhappy or unsatisfied with the writing does not mean is bad..."
Well, if you're happy and satisfied doesn't make it good either