Is Graham Hancock right about the Olmecs?

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  • Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024

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  • @lukecaverns
    @lukecaverns  2 месяца назад +5

    If you want to see all 17 Olmec heads (+3 more limestone heads that most people have NEVER seen), as well as every major Megalith in Mexico: join my Olmec tour "Megalithic Mexico" (December 2024): www.mayaexploration.org/tour-olmec-Dec2024.php

    • @TheKolizion
      @TheKolizion 2 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/hNRQHMq1Bk8/видео.htmlsi=y082WVrIMVJnZg84

    • @TheKolizion
      @TheKolizion 2 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/ravBFRSOSWg/видео.htmlsi=Slxbz0_buK_cDd_P

    • @OzMate79
      @OzMate79 2 месяца назад

      Don’t believe Graham ever really claims to be ‘right’. He states this is a theory I’m putting forward to all his works. It’s mainstream academics that claim they know and they are right, just because they spent thousands of dollars on an education that may or not be correct. In truth, no one actually knows.

    • @marklyell9309
      @marklyell9309 Месяц назад

      Were you at La Venta recently in February with an American Prof ? I was there and may have met you but I could be totally wrong. What about the bearded figures on some of the monoliths ?
      And maybe something like a winged disk ?

    • @Chris-from-AZ
      @Chris-from-AZ Месяц назад

      Luke
      You need to line the dots up!!!
      If you look into these cultures
      There was a set of Olmec twins that they talked about!!
      What other culture talks about twins that were heroes??
      Maya!!
      The Olmec were Maya people!!
      Just like you said, there was Maya writing on the statues!!
      The ball game was actually a league, they played down south all the way to new Mexico and Arizona

  • @EUSA1776
    @EUSA1776 3 месяца назад +60

    I had the immense privilege of visiting Teotihuacan last week, as well as multiple museums in CDMX, and what I can say is that the Americas still hold untold amounts of historical riches. It is an immensely beautiful and rich tapestry of Stone Age cultures. As for the purposeful building of megalithic sites, I can assure you nothing was without forethought. In Teotihuacan for example, the whole plaza is built so that one can speak to another person from a great distance without raising one’s voice. I had a full on conversation, fully intelligible with my mother from nearly 1000ft away without any loss of audibility or comprehension. It is a truly astounding place. A truly astounding society, regardless of who built it.

    • @Egr-et6ar
      @Egr-et6ar 3 месяца назад +2

      Iron working was introduced to Europe in the late 11th century BC, from the Caucasus, and slowly spread northwards and westwards over the succeeding 500 years. Meanwhile…. The dates show that early Native Americans were among the first people in the world to mine metal and fashion it into tools.

    • @EUSA1776
      @EUSA1776 3 месяца назад

      @@Egr-et6ar Metal was never widely used by Native Americans, they were essentially Stone Age societies. The few metal objects found in pre Hispanic America are mostly ceremonial and status objects.

    • @Egr-et6ar
      @Egr-et6ar 3 месяца назад +3

      @@EUSA1776 While ironworking was introduced to Europe later, Native Americans in the southeastern United States had already been extracting iron ore from local deposits around 1,000 years ago. They used iron to make tools, such as arrowheads and knives.

    • @YochananIbnYosefBey
      @YochananIbnYosefBey 3 месяца назад

      They are Mu'urs DNA 🧬 never lie

    • @Egr-et6ar
      @Egr-et6ar 3 месяца назад +1

      @@YochananIbnYosefBey 100% Native American.

  • @PhilLoneus-qc1rv
    @PhilLoneus-qc1rv 3 месяца назад +21

    That handbag is in all major ancient cultures.

    • @almateenyazid
      @almateenyazid 2 месяца назад

      Purse- SUN.

    • @danielevans3932
      @danielevans3932 7 дней назад +1

      Does it mean the currency you get from growing food for millions of people. Or even a bag of seeds that represents an essential economy for any civilizations survival.🤔

  • @chrisrichardson8988
    @chrisrichardson8988 2 месяца назад +40

    I have a photograph of my 100% Mexican father in law, standing next to an Olmec head. The resemblance is uncanny.

    • @Dwrankoheart
      @Dwrankoheart 2 месяца назад

      Garbage if he resemble Olmec head, he is the decendance of Olmec people who were African, MOTE, popular Mexican American comedian George Lopez dona DNA test and to his surprised that he have almost 20 % African DNA ,the people you are Mexican 100% is true but Mexican of African ancestory

    • @wwkd7921
      @wwkd7921 2 месяца назад +7

      I didn't know the olmec was Spanish!😅😅😅

    • @Dwrankoheart
      @Dwrankoheart 2 месяца назад +13

      @@wwkd7921 People who speak Spanish claim to be everything,the Olmec was there before there was a weird Name Spanish .

    • @LC-xn4dp
      @LC-xn4dp 2 месяца назад +10

      @@wwkd7921mexico is a mestizo country and depending on the individual some have higher indigenous dna while others have more spanish so her comment is valid

    • @LC-xn4dp
      @LC-xn4dp 2 месяца назад

      @@DwrankoheartMexico is a mestizo country who still has a large indigenous population, Mexico has more natives than the US and Canada combined. Mexicans arent spaniards

  • @alexanderren1097
    @alexanderren1097 3 месяца назад +52

    Any archeologists that can look at the serpent shaped shadow crawling down that temple at a very specific and repeated time of year and say “oh that’s accidental. It’s a coincidence. Doesn’t mean anything.” need to have their degrees retracted

    • @gregor299
      @gregor299 3 месяца назад +2

      Which ones said that? I'm trying to get quotes. I haven't found any.

    • @wout123100
      @wout123100 3 месяца назад

      they dont say that at all, why the heck are you people so dang dumb, do some research yourself, and reading hancock is not research, he is a journalist and as admitted in an interview , there is not any proof of an atlantean civilisation sofar.

  • @ian_ford
    @ian_ford 3 месяца назад +36

    While I agree that there is a wide phenotypic range for Native Americans, why does such an assertion only seem to make plausible sense when discussing the phenotypes of the venerated head of an ancient Olmec? A head that is clearly more emblematic of people we’d loosely describe today as “African.” And why, when we discuss Native American history, we do not show images of this phenotype diversity except when it includes more Euro-mixed Native Americans?
    There seems to be a coordinated strike pattern from communities of Geologists and Anthropologists alike against any ancient artifacts that perhaps could be attributed to people resembling Blsck Africans or those phenotypically associated with them. Be it Olmecs or the Sphinx of Giza, with a prognathism only attributed to people we’d call, today, Sub-Saharan. But because the Western stories about them, over the past several centuries, are that they were an unremarkable, less-evolved, sub-species (ergo, SUB-Saharan) of humans with no meaningful contributions towards advanced civilizations… we still hold onto those old Wives-tales.
    Could it be that people we loosely attribute to being “African” today were in fact ALL over the world centuries and millennia ago? And rather than recognize this, we’re quick to find ways to distance them from any possible African origin?

    • @nolimitstrength
      @nolimitstrength 3 месяца назад +3

      Keep it simple. You're saying it's a little racist to say that the Olmecs couldn't have been African. Then you make a bunch of huge leaps of logic that seem to follow from your premise.

    • @ian_ford
      @ian_ford 3 месяца назад +7

      @@nolimitstrength I'm saying the micro conversation of the Olmecs is emblematic of a broader macro narrative, propagated by such communities as Historians, Geologists, Archeologists, and Egyptologists, that seeks to delineate any Afro/African people from any noteworthy civilizations or artifact veneration.

    • @Egr-et6ar
      @Egr-et6ar 3 месяца назад +2

      @@ian_ford The MTDNA taken from ancient Olmec shows they were NATIVE AMERICANS IN ORIGIN.

    • @Egr-et6ar
      @Egr-et6ar 3 месяца назад

      @@ian_fordThey were also Natives that appeared whyte. Probably the most famous quote about the Cloud People comes from the Spnish Pedro Cieza de Leon, he wrote that the Chachapoya were ““the whytest and most handsome of all the people that I have seen, and their wives were so beautiful that because of their gentleness, many of them deserved to be the Incas’ wives and to also be taken to the Sun Temple.” Orellana, another Spnish wrote a similar description, and also stated that the Cloud People were much taller than the Spniards, and had extremely light skin and blonde hair, pointing to the fact that they were of “Eropean” ancestry not “Mediterranean.” These facts continue to puzzle modern day scientists, as there is no evidence of previous Eropean genes being present in this area of the world before the Cloud People.

    • @nolimitstrength
      @nolimitstrength 3 месяца назад

      @ian_ford I guess it depends who you read and listen to.

  • @alexdarmstaedter454
    @alexdarmstaedter454 3 месяца назад +17

    OK so if you saw a person who looked Olmec recently, It stands to reason that you may, being that Olmecs populated the area in the past, and left their seed in the population, lasting even today.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +11

      Mexico today is home to millions of indigenous people who have been living there for thousands of years. Those facial features are common in Mexico and many other countries south of the border.

    • @alexortiz7446
      @alexortiz7446 3 месяца назад +3

      DUH......dass wha he was ssayinnggg.

    • @alexdarmstaedter454
      @alexdarmstaedter454 3 месяца назад +1

      @@alexortiz7446 yep, I was agreeing with him.

    • @gregwhitenerel7846
      @gregwhitenerel7846 3 месяца назад

      That's a hell of a stretch not knowing that person's lineage.

    • @daviddealba9886
      @daviddealba9886 3 месяца назад +2

      You know now That I think of it . Those Olmec heads kinda remind me of the Hawaii tiki statues . Or maybe im just thirsty for some tiki punch

  • @DrewbattleTheGreat
    @DrewbattleTheGreat 3 месяца назад +33

    Im black but my grandma is indigenous Mexican from Oaxaca I’ve always wanted to go to southern Mexico and see the Pyramids and the Olmec heads. It’s crazy that all this history is suppressed and lost to us

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      Blacks aren’t indigenous to Mexico. Sorry

    • @GardaOrban
      @GardaOrban 3 месяца назад +5

      it's not. you are just lazy to learn and than blame others for your own lazyness

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +11

      @@GardaOrban not to mention. The Olmec culture has nothing to do with his people.

    • @ohioono6636
      @ohioono6636 3 месяца назад

      ​@@YellowCapeInvincibleThe original people of Mexico were black. Cry about it

    • @DrewbattleTheGreat
      @DrewbattleTheGreat 3 месяца назад +5

      @@GardaOrban lmao we don’t even know what language they spoke or what they called themselves. There’s a lot that we don’t know wether I’m lazy or not is irrelevant

  • @chiccngeorge3058
    @chiccngeorge3058 3 месяца назад +46

    I get that “native Americans” have a lot of phenotypes but why wouldn’t they depict each phenotype in each head each head is the same phenotype

    • @ShortSquatch27
      @ShortSquatch27 3 месяца назад +25

      Certain phenotypes tend to be regionally common-thus the Olmec had a specific phenotype amongst themselves

    • @franklopez8
      @franklopez8 3 месяца назад +6

      We don't know why the heads were built in the first place, so asking why they didn't depict the different phenotype in each head is a moot point in my opinion. We should not look at the heads and infer that all the Olmec looked like this. There are hundreds of other artifacts that depict Olmec phenotype such as: Seated Bench Figure holding a baby "El Senor de Las Lima's," Hunchback figure, Ballplayer, Baby figure, Jaded Mask, Baby Face, The Prince, The Wrestler, Tuxtla Statuette.....etc
      People tend to look at the colossal heads and infer that these must not be "Native American," because they don't have the "standard" Native American phenotype.

    • @ishmaelbenn4002
      @ishmaelbenn4002 3 месяца назад +9

      The question to ask is who are these native Americans you are talking about.​@@franklopez8

    • @Bakedea87
      @Bakedea87 3 месяца назад +6

      The heads don't all look the same

    • @brucejonesillustrations8721
      @brucejonesillustrations8721 3 месяца назад +13

      so are we just going to act like more than one olmec heads with afros haven't been discovered ?

  • @dee3368
    @dee3368 3 месяца назад +57

    I really never understood all the hatred towards graham hancock. I Find.
    His theories and research fascinating

    • @thePyiott
      @thePyiott 3 месяца назад +11

      Its BS

    • @matthewvicendese1896
      @matthewvicendese1896 3 месяца назад +9

      It is absolute rubbish ... and his whiny victimhood is so annoying... especially since it is him offending everyone and them just ignoring his rubbish.

    • @Cloudy_Jones
      @Cloudy_Jones 3 месяца назад

      If you believe what he says then humanity hasn’t done anything impressive on their own throughout history and some ancient alien race taught us everything, it takes away everything that makes us special and gives all the credit to a group of people we have no record or evidence of other than myths and legends.

    • @wout123100
      @wout123100 3 месяца назад

      trumpvoter?

    • @thePyiott
      @thePyiott 3 месяца назад

      @@wout123100

  • @lukecaverns
    @lukecaverns  3 месяца назад +23

    If you guys have any other RUclips videos/podcast clips you'd like me to break down/react to: leave a link in this thread! Also, new Olmec lecture-video coming next week + a huge Olmec announcement. Let the year of the Olmecs begin...

    • @CharlesNotXavier
      @CharlesNotXavier 3 месяца назад

      I do.
      Would you mind break down this video from BAM? (Shout out to dubber @funnyoldeworld Jahannah James.)
      I find that those caves in Barabar and Nagarjuni have similar qualities in finishing and accuracy with the Serapeum from Egypt. I'm pro data and objective thinking a la @DeDunking, and it'd be cool if you cover it, since you are far more educated and well connected than me.
      Thanks in advance, Luke.
      ruclips.net/video/iF6qv1CC5_4/видео.htmlsi=jMNSc_Bz3RTBeUgX

    • @CharlesNotXavier
      @CharlesNotXavier 3 месяца назад

      Whoa. My comment is gone. Naughty RUclips.
      I was asking if you could do a breakdown for a video below from B.A.M.
      I find the Barabar-Nagarjuni caves and the Serapeum from Egypt share the similar quality, finishing, and accuracy.
      Since you're far more educated in this subject, I'd be grateful if you could cover it in the future.
      Thanks in advance, Luke. Wish you all the best!
      ruclips.net/video/iF6qv1CC5_4/видео.htmlsi=jMNSc_Bz3RTBeUgX

    • @CharlesNotXavier
      @CharlesNotXavier 3 месяца назад +7

      3rd comment. My previous comments are gone. Naughty RUclips.
      I was asking if you could do a breakdown for a video from B.A.M.
      I find the Barabar-Nagarjuni caves and the Serapeum from Egypt share the similar quality, finishing, and accuracy.
      Since you're far more educated in this subject, I'd be grateful if you could cover it in the future.
      Thanks in advance, Luke. Wish you all the best!

    • @Chris-from-AZ
      @Chris-from-AZ 3 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/yLGeBc80b74/видео.htmlsi=X7ViVrTOizE-p6xG

    • @Chris-from-AZ
      @Chris-from-AZ 3 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/949X0Az37ZA/видео.htmlsi=WlX8LNWENQxsA-or

  • @charlesbryant870
    @charlesbryant870 3 месяца назад +19

    I worked with a guy from Guatemala and he had the Olmec facial features.

    • @cdsred
      @cdsred 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah the definitely have a look about them

    • @natureboy5990
      @natureboy5990 3 месяца назад +6

      That look is common in Africans

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      @@natureboy5990no

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +2

      @@natureboy5990 no

    • @natureboy5990
      @natureboy5990 3 месяца назад +4

      @@YellowCapeInvincible cry about it it's written in stone and it will not go anywhere

  • @forrfuun8470
    @forrfuun8470 3 месяца назад +15

    I haven't read anything detailed about the Olmec, but recently on the Earth Ancient podcast, Edwin Barnhart, an Olmec expert, explained that "they came out of nowhere" is a popular misconception. We observe progress in art and architecture.

    • @chiccngeorge3058
      @chiccngeorge3058 3 месяца назад +3

      Progressed in art and agriculture with a base of what? They are the first civilization in the Americas so what could it have developed from?

    • @williamdenton5716
      @williamdenton5716 3 месяца назад

      ​@chiccngeorge3058 . I would take pause before banking your beliefs on the Olmec being the first North Americans.
      There is likely another 150k years of evidence that is forever lost to geological actions.
      We don't know who the first North Americans were.
      We don't KNOW much of anything about history, and for good reason.
      History, and humanity, is constantly being reset.

    • @forrfuun8470
      @forrfuun8470 3 месяца назад +3

      @@chiccngeorge3058 Being first doesn't prevent of visible line of progression in use technology, what are you trying to say? Check source I was cited.

    • @wout123100
      @wout123100 3 месяца назад

      @@chiccngeorge3058 easily form hunter gatherers like elsewhere, influences form outside maybe possible.

    • @thetruthchannel349
      @thetruthchannel349 2 месяца назад

      There are Peruvian legions that Spanish missionaries recorded that emerge at the same time the Olmecs appear. They didn't come from nowhere. They came from the East by sea.

  • @Parabola001
    @Parabola001 3 месяца назад +18

    What you said about the artstyle being fully developed is to me, as someone who has worked in art and design for many years, one of the most mysterious aspects about all of these lost ancient cultures.
    Who originally designed the typical egyptian art style, for example? Who decided that this is the only art style thats going to be used over thousands of years? What art style(s) have they used before they came up with the final style?
    Today we have countless different styles of art, everybody draws uniquely different. Why would they only use this one art style? Were other styles forbidden? Was creativity itself forbidden because only this one style was allowed?

    • @dudeguy8686
      @dudeguy8686 3 месяца назад +2

      I'd guess a large reason for the uniformity is that these cultures used art as a language.
      While we today still do have many symbols that reference certain (or many) things, our written language is so far removed from any reference of our reality, it's tough for us to overlay the two (art and language) into a single piece, where those cultures could as naturally as breathing. Or, reading.

    • @TylerChamb
      @TylerChamb 3 месяца назад +2

      The modern sense of art as this personal kind of superficial hyper-individualistic expression was not shared by the ancients. Art wasn't just a single guy vomiting his feelings up for the whole world to see. For the ancients, art was something far greater and deeper; art was a dedication to the universe and to the gods, a vehicle for the transcendent to enter into material reality, a window for eternity to shine through into time. In accordance with that ethos, a shared language of symbols evolved enabling people to effectively communicate information about that higher transcendent reality, because naturally, the transcendent tends to defy human expression: the shared artistic resources characterizing the homogenous style of a peoples was just the result of people needing to draw from a shared wellspring of symbols, without which experience of the divine and transcendent eluded stable understanding and concrete formulation. But from within that culture, the art did not appear homogenous at all- it only looks "all the same" to you because you do not have the knowledge necessary for decoding their symbols, so you cannot actually pick out the details and differences between one piece of art and another, it all just blurs together indistinguishably.

    • @edfu_text_U_later
      @edfu_text_U_later 3 месяца назад

      This is a great observation and comment, the only time Egypt did depart from the grid style, no artistic license style of art was under Ankhenaten. He seemed to have introduced creative freedom into the culture, allowing experimentation and imagination to flourish for his short reign.

    • @cyber6sapien
      @cyber6sapien 3 месяца назад +2

      Check Jason Breshear's (Archaix's) theory on the nature of reality and how it explains human history.
      It explains how certain civilizations seemingly popped up in history out of nowhere, with their culture and
      traditions fully formed, with no historical precursors that explain how they came to be.

  • @clamsoup
    @clamsoup 3 месяца назад +33

    Hancock never holds an idea. His talent is in considering any and all possibilities. That's what makes him a fun watch. "What if?"

    • @wout123100
      @wout123100 3 месяца назад +3

      he is a clever journalist , making a lot of money that way, cannot be trusted.

    • @marcossealey8612
      @marcossealey8612 2 месяца назад

      Yup U seem to love Bulsht THEORY

    • @outwestbest290tray
      @outwestbest290tray 2 месяца назад +2

      @@marcossealey8612 all theory is fundamentally bs until proven, what’s your point ? 🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @marcossealey8612
      @marcossealey8612 2 месяца назад

      @@outwestbest290tray FACTS OVER THEORY 👍

    • @Ambassador_Gkar
      @Ambassador_Gkar 2 месяца назад

      @@marcossealey8612 What facts 🤨 All mainstream do is to say 'we know the science.' And spout a lot of unsubstantiated trite, using big words, that could be interpreted in more than one fashion. Because they _don't know._
      At least Hancock has an open mind. Unlike your apparent friends in close-minded industries.

  • @StrangeforceSA
    @StrangeforceSA 3 месяца назад +109

    Bro iswear if these statues were presented without knowing where they were found you will say african ...iknow its hard pill 💊 ...

    • @natureboy5990
      @natureboy5990 3 месяца назад +47

      They struggling with admitting the fact that Egyptians were black now Olmecs very tough pill to swallow indeed

    • @StrangeforceSA
      @StrangeforceSA 3 месяца назад +14

      @@natureboy5990 say that again

    • @gerardovillarreal4640
      @gerardovillarreal4640 3 месяца назад

      Olmec DNA exists and you're not it.

    • @gerardovillarreal4640
      @gerardovillarreal4640 3 месяца назад

      DNA testing on ancient Olmec remains in 2018 revealed that the Olmecs were not related to African populations, but instead shared genetic markers with indigenous populations of Mexico and Central America. This disproved the theory of some historians that the Olmecs originated in Africa, based on supposed similarities between African and Olmec art and the facial features of some carved heads. Instead, the DNA study found the presence of mutations in the "A" maternal lineage, one of the five mitochondrial haplogroups most common in indigenous populations of the Americas. This suggests that the Olmecs originated in America, like other native Americans, who may have descended from Asian ancestors who entered North America during the Great Ice Age.

    • @gerardovillarreal4640
      @gerardovillarreal4640 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@StrangeforceSADNA testing on ancient Olmec remains in 2018 revealed that the Olmecs were not related to African populations, but instead shared genetic markers with indigenous populations of Mexico and Central America. This disproved the theory of some historians that the Olmecs originated in Africa, based on supposed similarities between African and Olmec art and the facial features of some carved heads. Instead, the DNA study found the presence of mutations in the "A" maternal lineage, one of the five mitochondrial haplogroups most common in indigenous populations of the Americas. This suggests that the Olmecs originated in America, like other native Americans, who may have descended from Asian ancestors who entered North America during the Great Ice Age.

  • @sethskullsberg7787
    @sethskullsberg7787 3 месяца назад +10

    In the movie Boy Kills The World, the main character is training and uses an olmac head to roll up and down a hill. When I saw it I thought of this channel

  • @bwaynesilva
    @bwaynesilva 3 месяца назад +10

    Great job again. Looking forward to you presentation in two weeks.

  • @Bill_Ross
    @Bill_Ross 3 месяца назад +26

    Maybe not in movies, but don't forget about Legends of the Hidden Temple, the old Nickelodeon show.

    • @ktevans881
      @ktevans881 3 месяца назад +3

      Yep, that's what my mind thinks of when I see the Olmec head

    • @MrJermeyp
      @MrJermeyp 3 месяца назад

      Fkn shrine of the bastard ass silver monkey smh.. ruined many a contestants day. Also temple guards …😂

  • @MAAT33G
    @MAAT33G 3 месяца назад +6

    It’s a big claim at 12:41 lol
    Multiple civilisations have no interaction with each other,
    But all depicted a man in stone with a bag and bringing civilisation.
    Not hard at all, very simple lol

  • @cliffordenglish3039
    @cliffordenglish3039 3 месяца назад +7

    They also have a OLMECS head which have locks going down the back of it.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +3

      That’s not true at all

    • @outwestbest290tray
      @outwestbest290tray 2 месяца назад +1

      @@YellowCapeInvincible I have a receding hairline so not qualified to speak on hair 😂 but braids/locks yes they do. Google is your friend.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 2 месяца назад

      @@outwestbest290tray the Olmecs depicted themselves with straight hair. They didn’t make any artifacts with braids.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 2 месяца назад +2

      @@outwestbest290tray only 17 Olmec heads have been discovered. None of them have hair. Only one Olmec head has that feature that many people claim is braids. They are actually Quetzal feathers.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 2 месяца назад

      @@outwestbest290tray the facial features on the Olmec heads are extremely common in Mexican people. The Olmec heads lack prognathism which is a “negroid trait”. DNA tests have been done on human skeletons found in Olmec territory. Proving to be the same people are modern day indigenous Mexicans. Haplogroup A,B,C,D and X.
      Not black or African at all. Google is your friend as you said.

  • @140theguy
    @140theguy 3 месяца назад +65

    Nearly every ancient culture has a story of a wise person coming from the sea and teaching them advanced knowledge. The fact that modern science still argues whether it happened or not is mind boggling.

    • @josephl9931
      @josephl9931 3 месяца назад

      They don't want it to be true. They prefer to brainwash kids saying we invented everything ourselves and we are the superior race.

    • @williamdenton5716
      @williamdenton5716 3 месяца назад +2

      It happened ?
      Not only did it happen, it's happening right now !!

    • @BangMaster96
      @BangMaster96 3 месяца назад +16

      The 7 Sages, a story found in ancient India, ancient Greece, ancient Mesopotamia, ancient China, and in certain ancient Meso-American Cultures.
      These Cultures are separated by land, seas, and time, there is no way all of them just coincidentally had the same stories.

    • @sanspeur9143
      @sanspeur9143 3 месяца назад +3

      Yes Enlil

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +10

      Africans didn’t even make it to Cape Verde by the 15th century. There is no way they came to Meso america 2000+ years before the Europeans.

  • @fronf
    @fronf 5 дней назад +2

    If you wana see an aztec, mayan, incan or olmec looking person go to your nearest mexican neighborhood and see for yourself or better yet go to mexico or guatemala or the jungles of south america.. they are still living there today and are barely holding onto thier traditions if not already forgotten. Many of them look just like the maya,inca,olmec and aztec statues. I assure you they are NOT black,NOT polynesian, NOT asian and NOT caucasian at all. if your lucky you will find some elders who still speak Mayan and Nahuatl language also.

  • @stevesanders1905
    @stevesanders1905 3 месяца назад +12

    There are people living in the same area today that look exactly like those heads. They claim to be descendants of the Olmec, Toltec, and the Maya. I don't doubt them a bit. But I don't put any belief in much of what Hancock says.

  • @fennynough6962
    @fennynough6962 3 месяца назад +14

    The absence of any D.N.A. or skeletal remains for the Olmecs does not reveal a Time of occupation. Some Heads were uncovered from underneath 25 feet of Sedimentary dust. This puts them in the 100,000 year old strata.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/yLGeBc80b74/видео.htmlsi=apwqD6JifDgr7mBE

    • @tboned70
      @tboned70 3 месяца назад +3

      Two Olmec Ancient Graves were excavated and the DNA came back Haplogroup A, Native American,......the Smithsonian has an article on that,.......

    • @dachande1797
      @dachande1797 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@tboned70I bet they do.

    • @bobwilson7684
      @bobwilson7684 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tboned70 the most unreliable study ever done.

    • @tboned70
      @tboned70 3 месяца назад

      @@bobwilson7684 its jus more proof,......wat do you prefer to your liking,.....?

  • @arthurp.2413
    @arthurp.2413 3 месяца назад +33

    They Certainly look like a black phenotype to me.. Also it has a Olmec stone head without the helmet and it has an afro with a black phenotype..

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      They only look like that to you because you want to believe the lie that they are African.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +2

      If you go to Mexico you will see millions of people who look identical to those heads.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +5

      You can’t remove the helmet of a giant stone Boulder. There is no Afro on the heads or any visible hair carved on them. The only Olmec artifacts with hair depict people with straight hair.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      The prognathism of Africans is contradictory to the Olmec heads.

    • @ScorpioMojo
      @ScorpioMojo 3 месяца назад

      @YellowCapeInvincible - lol, you seem overly invested in denying what our "lying eyes" see. Cheddar Man in England and indigenous Australians are just more evidence of original 100% humans = no Neanderthug DNA 👹

  • @bajitshiams
    @bajitshiams 3 месяца назад +17

    All the arguments just to exclude African phenotypes?? Why? But they could be 90% sure that they are extra terrestrial with their future

    • @marleyboy4455
      @marleyboy4455 3 месяца назад +7

      Yes the anti-blackness is ridiculous.

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 3 месяца назад

      @@marleyboy4455 they're not african. check out African Origins of Olmec Civilization - Debunked

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      @@marleyboy4455 the untrue narrative of Olmecs being black is anti-native racism. You guys don’t see the irony.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      @@marleyboy4455 the untrue narrative of Olmecs being black is anti native racism. You guys don’t see the irony.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      Because Olmecs were NOT black you clowns

  • @noodlesmetal
    @noodlesmetal 3 месяца назад +2

    Milo and Miano will be very disappointed. Your not allowed to mention Graham unless it's to attack and discredit him. Bad Luke! Your name has been removed from the door at club Graham haters.

  • @Thehabanero_
    @Thehabanero_ 3 месяца назад +9

    The descendants are still alive.
    Most of us from Veracruz region resemble the Olmec heads.

    • @Egr-et6ar
      @Egr-et6ar 3 месяца назад +2

      That’s cause Eropeans are still a small group in Mx but the “Mxican” media, novela media being pushed would like to paint otherwise.

    • @Thehabanero_
      @Thehabanero_ 3 месяца назад

      @@Egr-et6ar exactly. If you go to the small unknown towns in Mexico you’ll see a lot the media doesn’t show you lol

  • @Egr-et6ar
    @Egr-et6ar 3 месяца назад +1

    To see different people from åfröcentrist to eurocentrist to even Chinese making theories to claim the people had influences on Olmecs/and or were the Olmec people - shows really how great the people were/are.

  • @rayray9865
    @rayray9865 3 месяца назад +3

    You’re completely right that not everyone that originated in the Americas looks the same for example, my father is a Otomi descent. He has a round face fat nose. Big lips and a dark complexion, and if he were to let his hair grow out, it would be almost thick straight My point is he doesn’t look like he’s of any African descent. He has those attributes, but you could tell the difference.

    • @massdisruption3437
      @massdisruption3437 Месяц назад

      They have straight hair blacks in Africa and around the world.

  • @richardbernard6845
    @richardbernard6845 3 месяца назад +1

    Luke - you did a fine job intuitively covering many of the questions I had about the Olmecs and it was useful listening to Graham Hancock add his dimension and perspective.
    RB

  • @DianeCee57
    @DianeCee57 3 месяца назад +5

    Stoked for the Olmec book.

  • @PedroFerreira-ze5yp
    @PedroFerreira-ze5yp 3 месяца назад +2

    I've always been so curious about the Olmecs. Highly appreciated video!

  • @rolandolveda9117
    @rolandolveda9117 3 месяца назад +4

    The Road to El Dorado is the only time I've seen an Olmec head in a movie

  • @alejandromayr1357
    @alejandromayr1357 3 месяца назад +2

    I loved this episode ! great job !

  • @govinasimpson170
    @govinasimpson170 3 месяца назад +24

    Even the people who work at the museum where these statues are, say they think they are of African descent...plus they are wearing braids..under those helmets their hair is braided..ive never, ever, ever seen a messican in braids..

    • @nubiannile4606
      @nubiannile4606 3 месяца назад +1

      Exactly right and since they have on helmets they were most likely warriors.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +2

      There is no hair carved on any of the heads.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +1

      The only Olmec artifacts that depict hair depict people with naturally straight hair

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      Go down to Mexico and you will see millions of people who have faces identical to those heads.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +6

      It’s mind boggling how ignorant people are

  • @YellowCapeInvincible
    @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +16

    It’s really asinine that so many people disrespect the Olmecs and their descendants today. The indigenous people of Mexico by claiming they were Africans, Polynesians or anything others than American Indian.

    • @natureboy5990
      @natureboy5990 3 месяца назад +5

      Remember modern day Mexicans are a mix of multiple races due to colonization so they are more similar to each other than the Olmecs.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +9

      @@natureboy5990 there are still millions of indigenous people living in Mexico and almost every other country who never mixed Spaniards. The idea that all people living in Mexico are mixed native with Spanish is completely untrue.

    • @natureboy5990
      @natureboy5990 3 месяца назад

      @@YellowCapeInvincible where are they.?

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +5

      @@natureboy5990 in Mexico. Where else ? 🙄

    • @natureboy5990
      @natureboy5990 3 месяца назад +6

      @@YellowCapeInvincible there's black people in Mexican too.

  • @natethevoicemusic6085
    @natethevoicemusic6085 3 месяца назад +7

    Referring to the hand bag and serpent image. I think a lot of times we project our modern technology onto ancient people. We like to assume it’s an image of a person riding in a vehicle, because that’s the sitting position when riding in a plane, a car, etc. I think we can all agree they didn’t have cars or planes so I would assume they didn’t even have a concept of that. It seems to me more like it would represent the image of a child sitting in someone’s lap. Almost representing someone sitting in the lap of a wise leader or a God and passing down the knowledge within the hand bag. At least that’s what I see.

    • @lukecaverns
      @lukecaverns  3 месяца назад +4

      Great comment. I really like this perspective. It’s almost impossible for us to imagine how exactly they would have interpreted these works

    • @LuisRamirez-vv4dk
      @LuisRamirez-vv4dk 3 месяца назад

      Yea and comparing to other cultures in far away places is a major reach. It's actually ridiculous to suggest they have anything to do with each other.

    • @outwestbest290tray
      @outwestbest290tray 2 месяца назад +2

      @@LuisRamirez-vv4dk nothing ridiculous about it. Our arrogance in assuming these people couldn’t have been in contact or hadn’t devised the means of transportation over vast distances despite such glaring similarities in their cultures is profoundly obtuse .

    • @LuisRamirez-vv4dk
      @LuisRamirez-vv4dk 2 месяца назад

      @@outwestbest290tray There is no glaring similarities. You are the one being obtuse here. It is totally ridiculous. The burden of proof i on you idiots and you're not doing a good job.

  • @djsnyder001
    @djsnyder001 3 месяца назад +2

    It is not a hand bag referenced in time stamp 26:10, it is a representation of state authority concerning weight standards for commerce through out the kingdom. What gets me is the same type of symbiology is used in many different cultures from many differing time periods though out the world.

  • @mattbealllimitless
    @mattbealllimitless 3 месяца назад +7

    Really enjoyed this Luke. Olmecs are fascinating. I asked you about this on our podcast too but it would be super interesting to explore the possibility that they are much older than we currently think. It’s weird that the earliest stuff is the best stuff, they appeared out of no where, all the heads were buried, and the mystery and lack of data surrounding their civilization in general. This is a huge topic that’s been largely unexplored so I’m excited it’s your first book and look forward to reading it! Keep up the great work

  • @shae3755
    @shae3755 3 месяца назад +2

    Bro Ur Ancestors said "They Don't Know Who Built the Pyramids down there, They say the Gods did it and it was there when They Got There.

  • @jackwilliamson1929
    @jackwilliamson1929 3 месяца назад +3

    It's my understanding thar the heads like the massive stone balls that are also found in the area are impossible to date. The dates are derived from the organic material and depth of soil around the heads. These have nothing to do with the dates the carvings were made only when they were abandoned to the jungle

  • @RMF-h6w
    @RMF-h6w 2 месяца назад +1

    Number one~ the Olmec people are still in the area.
    Not in La Venta but in areas close by.
    And are in court suing whom every try’s to move or take anymore of their artifacts.
    The Olmec whom still live there are fighting for their culture and way of life.
    They want to be left alone.
    The Caucasians whom go there act as if they do not still exist.
    Telling the public they are extinct and asking who were they and where did they go?
    And yes they are black people indigenous American Indians.
    And want it to stop.
    Link:
    ruclips.net/user/liveUKnRYuhqYLk?si=JcmPKkeZJ3pGddi-

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 2 месяца назад

      the word "black" just confuses people who are obsessed with skin colour. the olmecs were native american. there were no african people in the americas until the 1500s.

  • @MW66VB
    @MW66VB 3 месяца назад +11

    To me the Olmecs based on the giant heads and some of their art, look black to me. Not polynesian or hispanic. the features are a clue.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      Of course they are not Hispanic. They are not black either. They represent indigenous Americans. Mexico today is home to millions of indigenous people who never mixed with Spaniards. Mexico today is home to millions of people who look identical to those heads.
      Black people have prognathism. A negroid trait that does not exist in Olmec art.

    • @tboned70
      @tboned70 3 месяца назад

      Features are not a clue but an indication of Environment,.......

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +1

      This is something blk ppl seem to not understand. HISPANIC Mexicans and INDIGENOUS Mexicans are two different people. Hispanic means people from Spain. Most people who live in Mexico are not Hispanic. People of Spanish descent only make up about 20% of the population in Mexico. Most Mexicans today are indigenous people. Yes they speak Spanish but Mexico today is also home to over 360 languages that date back thousands of years.
      The facial features you see on the Olmec heads are extremely common in indigenous Mexican people. Obviously people from Spain are not related to the Olmecs.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      Thick lips and wide noses are not exclusive to black people. The prognathism of Africans is contradictory to the artwork of the Olmecs. The Olmecs also depicted themselves with straight hair and the bowl hair cut. Black people do not have Straight hair. You guys can’t have bowl cuts.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      Black people will see a girl from Mexico who has darker skin than them and will still call her “spanish girl” 😂😂😂😂

  • @oakhardt
    @oakhardt Месяц назад

    You should do a talk with Graham Hancock, that would be good to watch!
    Great episode!

  • @ritcha02
    @ritcha02 3 месяца назад +4

    Loved this format. I just watched Flint Dibble on the Gnostic Informant channel. That would be a good one to comment on.

  • @acorn355
    @acorn355 3 месяца назад +2

    Africans are indigenous to all continents. Egyptian crowns weren't found because it as their styled hair, with wraps.

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 3 месяца назад

      well... we're all african i guess. otherwise no.

    • @NONANTI
      @NONANTI 3 месяца назад

      "Africans are indigenous to all continents" you do realize that's two contradictory statements, right? oxy moron.

    • @acorn355
      @acorn355 3 месяца назад +1

      @eeeaten I guess, but only Africans have existed for over 400k years as the oldest homo sapian sapian. Also the only group with coarse hair for dreads, twist, and braids that still wear the same hair styles to the present day. Due rags and bonnets are modern-day head dress, like the ancient Egyptians' crowns.

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 3 месяца назад

      @@acorn355 bluh bluh bloo bluh? No.

    • @acorn355
      @acorn355 3 месяца назад +1

      @@eeeaten go read a book

  • @Bikernewscanada
    @Bikernewscanada 3 месяца назад +6

    And THEY say that it was all done with hand tools 😂. Ask ANY stone mason today if they could do this with current hand tools and they would all say, NFW

    • @MBD-ec8wn
      @MBD-ec8wn 3 месяца назад

      Carved with sound waves with various levels of intensity...

  • @21hatwell
    @21hatwell 3 месяца назад

    Demko just gets it! Give the people what they want and offer it in different versions and price points so everyone can get in on the fun. You can tell when someone is passionate about what they do. I'm stoked to get my hands on these.

  • @cptr
    @cptr 3 месяца назад +3

    Cmon. Handbags? It’s such a no brainer that you make a carrying bag to carry shit in without having to learn it from someone else.

  • @LuisRamirez-vv4dk
    @LuisRamirez-vv4dk 3 месяца назад +1

    This is pure pseudoscience and racist against real native americans. What he says about Native genetics is not true. WHile there is a range of looks among Native phenotypes, Mesoamerican DNA is pretty clear. Many Natives in Veracruz do look like other mesoamericans, You are exaggerating about their looks. Many of the natives of Veracruz that are there now are though to have moved into Verca cruz later. Specially nahuas. There are several heads, they do not look the same. Far from it. The average height in Veracruz is between 160-165. With natives being the shortest. The Brazilian skull theory has been debunked. You guys are wrong about pretty much everything you said. Of course you would defend hancock.

  • @brockmarquis8511
    @brockmarquis8511 3 месяца назад +8

    Also have to take into deep consideration the amount of Europeans in Spanish bloodline stats came down and mixed with these populations change the time of the Olmac and Toltec

    • @Egr-et6ar
      @Egr-et6ar 3 месяца назад +3

      Yes a small group of people definitely managed to mix up the majority. Logically impossible.
      Federico Navarrete, Historian, Anthropologist UNAM. Between 1821 and 1910: 3.5 million Indigenous people were categorized as Mestizo. •By the time the Mexican census of 1930 took place: 30% of the entire Mexican population who has been categorized as Indigenous, was now categorized as “Mestizo.” Historians argue that this was also done to repress “Casta Wars” and erase the power of the Indigenous population. The white elites feared that they would lose power. •Mestizaje was not a racial reality but rather a “massive linguistic displacement.” Indigenous people were whiten through language and culture markers, not racial.
      For more info that further debunks Mėstízo myth, Sėė 📚➡️
      The Mestizo Concept: A Product of European Imperialism
      by UC Davis Professor Jack D. Forbes
      MESTIZAJE AND SELF-HATE
      By Victor Mejia

  • @Hoopy-67
    @Hoopy-67 3 месяца назад +1

    Luke i hope one day maybe you could get graham on the show and talk about these things? Very interesting, i get people views on graham but its people like him who have got me into all this. Another great video 👍

  • @MJIZZEL
    @MJIZZEL 3 месяца назад +3

    There is a statue of an Olmec baby who also has that helmet on.

  • @kungfumaster12
    @kungfumaster12 17 дней назад +1

    It's just kang variants. The ancient humans worshipped them as God's

  • @chiccngeorge3058
    @chiccngeorge3058 3 месяца назад +5

    Wouldn’t it make sense that these different native Americans began to change in phenotypes later as they became mixed with other populations like European and Asian and Polynesian? The base population would be the Olmecs which were clearly one phenotype as the depicted one phenotype. We have to stop thinking the world has always looked as it looks today im sorry to say it but everyone Europeans included all go back to native Kenyans so to think that they mutated THEN left Africa then started setting up civilizations elsewhere is inherently racist. let’s just call a spade a spade the Olmec were black Africans (as was the base population around the world). You trying to compare someone in Veracruz today after all the Spanish French Irish Italian Dutch and Chinese mixing is beyoooooond me lol. We are all one so I don’t see why it’s so hard to admit these things. Google cheddar man in Britain. You’ll find it’s a black man with blue eyes and curly hair no matter where you look the first people were black then mutated probably from environmental changes but to think they were Neanderthal types until they muted then began building civilization is the racist thought that keeps us locked in this cycle. I’m not saying black people built every civilization in the world I’m not afrocentric but in this specific context of who carved these heads and the people they represent let’s call a spade a f-ing spade

    • @williamdenton5716
      @williamdenton5716 3 месяца назад

      As you so clearly and accurately stated, we must stop envisioning the world of the past as looking like the world of the present.
      Thus your assertion of historic black africans is equally guilty of such transference.
      It's most likely that their was no Africa. At least not in the way that we know it today.
      The truth is that our weakest quality, and this applies to every single one of us, is our inability to see humanity, and in extension life, as one.
      I'm in you and you are in me and we would be wise to embrace the concept enthusiastically.
      I'll guarantee that the opposition to a unified thinking will present their hate and condemnation with a robust level of virility.

  • @marklyell9309
    @marklyell9309 3 месяца назад +1

    Nice summary of the Olmecs ! I have also been investigating them and been to quite a few of the sites. But what about questioning the age of some of these monuments ? Some of them could be much older than the official dates. Also other Olmec artifacts show a wide variety of styles. How can we be sure than they are all from a single culture and that there weren't different cultures or outside influences ?

  • @johnmaccallum7935
    @johnmaccallum7935 3 месяца назад +33

    You can't be a legitimate scientist and have Mr. Hancock on your podcast as he's the greatest threat to civilization known to man. I'm kidding, bravo.

    • @alexanderm8880
      @alexanderm8880 3 месяца назад +6

      You had me in the first half, lol. I thought Dibble was commenting.

    • @03stmlax
      @03stmlax 3 месяца назад

      Uhh known to woman too, sexist pig

    • @Nocturnal2010
      @Nocturnal2010 3 месяца назад +2

      Idk how to explain what I was starting feel...then relief 🤣👍🏾

    • @GeorgeLucas1138
      @GeorgeLucas1138 3 месяца назад +1

      You had me in the first half not
      Gonna lie

    • @larkljc
      @larkljc 3 месяца назад +2

      Dude! I was about to pounce!! 😅

  • @Cshaman-if5qf
    @Cshaman-if5qf Месяц назад

    The Olmecs were E.T.'s. The feather serpent carvings etc were not made by some hammer and chisel type tools. They were made with advanced technology. The helmets were to protect themselves from our sun. Their sun is not like ours. They came and stayed for a time, then left.

  • @chrisper7527
    @chrisper7527 3 месяца назад +5

    I met a Native American from Maine who told me that his people were trading with African travelers thousands of years ago, and that these African traveled up and down the Americas as skilled sailors, artisans, and spiritualists.

    • @mozz11
      @mozz11 3 месяца назад +5

      nah. no evidence!

    • @IndigoChyld
      @IndigoChyld 3 месяца назад +1

      Yes that is correct. They have found artifacts from Africa in South America. According to European journals they documented seeing black people in the America's prior to the slave trade. Also many fail to credit the travels of the Oceania tribes to the America's as well.

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 3 месяца назад +1

      @@IndigoChyld no they haven't. also polynesians did not reach the americas until within the last 1000 years.

    • @IndigoChyld
      @IndigoChyld 3 месяца назад

      @@eeeaten yes they have. You just need to do your research. The Smithsonians all ready proved it and it would be easier for the Polynesians to make it to the Americas than the Mongolians. You can't possibly believe 2 continents was completely empty and the Natives didn't see nobody. We need to study what made them leave Mongolia.

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 3 месяца назад

      @@IndigoChyld when do you think polynesians reached america? there were no polynesians until within the last 3000 years.

  • @govinasimpson170
    @govinasimpson170 3 месяца назад +1

    Even the curators at the museum where these statues are say they believe they are of African descent..and under those helmets they are wearing braids..

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 3 месяца назад

      nope.

    • @jr.solaris253
      @jr.solaris253 3 месяца назад +2

      They aren’t of African descent. Natives had braids as well.

    • @crazyliljoe
      @crazyliljoe 2 месяца назад +2

      Stop lying and spreading false rumors to make you feel better. Stop trying to steal our history 😡

  • @DixonYachin199
    @DixonYachin199 3 месяца назад +7

    Definitely got some Elizabeth Warren vibes from you when ya were describing your facial features. Lol. I joke. See ya at CS24!!! Hail the 199!! Let's gooooo!!!!

    • @lukecaverns
      @lukecaverns  3 месяца назад +2

      Hahahaha, I have something around 4-6% Yucatec in me from my mom’s side. If you look at Stucco images of Maya people, I have some similarities in my nose/cheekbones & chin.
      And yes! See you soon!

    • @DixonYachin199
      @DixonYachin199 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@lukecaverns Awesome! I have some questions specifically(fairly long form) for ya. This year is going to be great.

  • @shinkisaragi4369
    @shinkisaragi4369 2 месяца назад +1

    If you go to the state of Veracruz, you find plenty of people that still have those Olmec phenotypes i’ve personally worked with a few people from that region who are the splitting image of the Olmec faces

  • @imo1933
    @imo1933 3 месяца назад +9

    *Those Olmecs heads look like they have African features, but that seems to be the problem, Africans in the America's first is always going to be a problem for a certain group of people so they need to now look like Polynesians. The story of Mana Musa brother coming to New World and never returning back to Africa is one that doesn't get any consideration by Westerners because they can't fathom Africans as explorers of the world or Africans as anything at all. Go visit Mali, they will tell you a tale of who landed in the Americas 100 years before Europeans. Africans Have Their Own History That They Have Passed Among Themselves For Generations.*

    • @natureboy5990
      @natureboy5990 3 месяца назад +3

      They'd rather be Aliens before they agree with them being African but the further they dig the darker it gets

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +2

      @@natureboy5990Africans have nothing to do with Olmecs.

    • @corybrown416
      @corybrown416 3 месяца назад

      @@YellowCapeInvincible How do you know that definitively?

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      @@corybrown416 genuine unbiased scientific evidence

    • @corybrown416
      @corybrown416 3 месяца назад +1

      @@YellowCapeInvincibleNothing you’ve said is either unbiased or science based!

  • @PneumanaBreathwork
    @PneumanaBreathwork 3 месяца назад +2

    I agree with the hypothesis that these shared ideas could have culminated through similar use of psychedelics in ceremony settings around the world.

  • @East10Outpost
    @East10Outpost 3 месяца назад +3

    Great video luke, I love Graham. Still curious to know what you think about magnetic poles being Incorporated in the Olmec potbelly statues 🧐

  • @jayleo4554
    @jayleo4554 3 месяца назад +1

    It’s clear those Olmec heads depict mainly African features, this is getting a bit ridiculous now lol.
    Africanoids have been in the Americas as long as any other race, most African Americans never arrived from slavery, they we’re already there and classed as Indians there plenty of artist depictions that clearly show the natives were copper skinned negroes.
    So the guy you saw with negroid features probably had black heritage that makes more sense than to say the Olmecs weren’t black lol. He could’ve been 25% aftican for all you know
    We all know certain black features are unique to the African race and it’s the specific type that’s shown on those Olmec heads. To say they were the same race as the aztecs etc is beyond a reach

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 3 месяца назад

      it's "clear" because you said so? the first african people in the americas arrived in the 1500s. this is shown by dna including analysis of ALL the earliest human remains. the olmecs were native american. accept it and move on to another conspiracy theory.

  • @toshokanneko
    @toshokanneko 3 месяца назад +3

    Can't wait to see you across from Joe. We all know that it's just a matter of time 😄

  • @RickSuaz
    @RickSuaz 2 месяца назад +1

    Some Mayans have very pronounced facial features with very straight hair. Today, many are mixed

  • @dudeguy8686
    @dudeguy8686 3 месяца назад +7

    Another interesting question connected to the age of civilization in the Americas: who built all the earthwork mounds?

    • @MAAT33G
      @MAAT33G 3 месяца назад +2

      They don’t like to talk about it lol

    • @dudeguy8686
      @dudeguy8686 3 месяца назад +1

      @@MAAT33G
      To be fair, it is a bit of a rough and obscure topic.
      So many of the mounds have been worn down, the evidence so fleeting, and most of the research is over a century old..
      Although, what evidence we do have is so incredible.. Definitely a rabbit hole worth exploring for anyone else reading this who hasn't yet.

    • @dankmansalley417
      @dankmansalley417 3 месяца назад +1

      @@dudeguy8686giants built them

    • @dudeguy8686
      @dudeguy8686 3 месяца назад

      @@dankmansalley417 I'm not against the idea, it'd help explain much of the scale we see, with many of those ancient sites.
      Giant people, or giant-scale technology, both are equally impressive, imo

    • @dankmansalley417
      @dankmansalley417 3 месяца назад

      @@dudeguy8686 watch mr.mythos giants in old America

  • @ZaharaFranklin
    @ZaharaFranklin 3 месяца назад +2

    Definitely a group who perished during the catastrophic floods.

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 3 месяца назад

      hahahahahahhah no.

  • @osbaldolopez2895
    @osbaldolopez2895 3 месяца назад +5

    Olmecs look like kang from quantamania antman and wasp same facial and headgear

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +1

      They look like native Mexicans and Central Americans more. Kang I believe is a imitation of the heads.

    • @osbaldolopez2895
      @osbaldolopez2895 3 месяца назад +1

      @YellowCapeInvincible I agree with you 💯.bro movies be telling us truths that .. they play them as fantasy or in our kids' stories. were too naive to see

    • @Egr-et6ar
      @Egr-et6ar 3 месяца назад

      To see different people from åfröcentrist to eurocentrist to even Chinese making theories to claim the people had influences on Olmecs/and or were the Olmec people - shows really how great the people were/are but some of the people still have self hate….

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      ruclips.net/video/vJVjpvpMBiY/видео.htmlsi=CEGIR0sg76X5NKRb

    • @brucejonesillustrations8721
      @brucejonesillustrations8721 3 месяца назад

      @@YellowCapeInvincible they look a lot more black than they do native mexicans
      but olmec head sculptures were already found with afros on them so those native mexicans you mention got those features from the ancient africans

  • @williamdenton5716
    @williamdenton5716 3 месяца назад +1

    It feels like you dismiss the civilization bringers theory as unlikely due to the large period of time between visits to a variety of cultures.
    I say, " They were here 20,000 years ago and they're here right now."
    Theyre in our oceans, in some lava tube littered volcanos, they're under ice sheets north and south.

  • @shaolindreams
    @shaolindreams 3 месяца назад +6

    Could we piece this together with genetics, specifically YDNA. As far as i know there only two major YDNA haplogroups in the Americas... Q and C. Which are quite far apart on the phylogenetic tree, C is closer to African haplogroups and Q is close to lighter people. I wonder who was there first, if at all maybe they came together but as there are varied features maybe it could be explained by this.

    • @tboned70
      @tboned70 3 месяца назад

      Haplogroup A is Native American and that is wat as found,.....

    • @shaolindreams
      @shaolindreams 3 месяца назад

      @@tboned70 First time i've heard that.. Do you have a source for this information?

    • @CeeXXL
      @CeeXXL 2 месяца назад

      ​@@tboned70 Haplogroup A is found in alot of Africans, South Africans to be specific.

  • @JimMcHugsU
    @JimMcHugsU 2 месяца назад

    The Egyptian bowling pin hats are dope.

  • @joearchuleta7538
    @joearchuleta7538 3 месяца назад +7

    Luke There is a book by a Mayan Day keeper Humbutz Men, called The 8 calendrers of the Maya. In that book they tell of the Maya from central America went to Africa, Asia and Europe 12,500 bc. went they went home they brought back DNA mixed with African, Asia and European Blood. I'm Mexican I have Europe, Asian and African DNA. GO FIGURE!!!
    You could problem fine this book at the library.
    This books is filled with facts about the Pyramids and so much more, you need to see it for yourself.

    • @wout123100
      @wout123100 3 месяца назад

      fake facts yes

    • @AndreaHernandez-7722
      @AndreaHernandez-7722 3 месяца назад

      How do brown little people went to travelled a big ship were maded NEVER EXISTED.

  • @marcelawakeham5061
    @marcelawakeham5061 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for reclaiming back the Olmec civilisation as Mexican I always feel that the studies of anthropologists try to dismiss all credibility from our ancestors and bring again and again the Eurocentric view point to the spotlight.

    • @yolandatownsend1934
      @yolandatownsend1934 2 месяца назад

      The Olmecs DO NOT have descendants. The Olmecs were a pre-flood people who perished during the global flood.

  • @albertsmith1934
    @albertsmith1934 3 месяца назад +4

    This young guy sounds like he doesnt want them to be African. Comes off weird. So what if they were Africans. It would just be that.

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 3 месяца назад +1

      they're not african. check out African Origins of Olmec Civilization - Debunked

    •  2 месяца назад

      Maybe the Olmecs were simply Black people?
      Who says that Black people cant be Indigenous to this Henisphere, being that Black people are the oldest race? THERE ARE Black people all over this planet. Wouldn’t it make sense that we are / were everywhere first, being Indigenous to the planet?
      Why is that so hard to admit?
      If the Aztec and Mayan got their calendar and civilization from the Black race, THEY GOT EVERYTHING FROM THE BLACK RACE. Doesn’t that make logical sense?
      My eyes aren’t lying to me and they aren’t lying to these so called scholars. They are suffering from cognitive dissonance.based on their race based miseducation.

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 2 месяца назад

      "black people" is not a meaningful grouping of people. the first people of the americas were various shades of native american people, there's no such thing as "the black race".

  • @stanleynife3608
    @stanleynife3608 3 месяца назад +1

    WHy couldn’t he just say “the back of the head” lol or “a wide nose” theres always bitterness and a lack of respect

  • @MrKoenanem
    @MrKoenanem 3 месяца назад +9

    Brother olmec are african😂 i dont no what proof you want

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +2

      No evidence of that

    • @MrKoenanem
      @MrKoenanem 3 месяца назад

      What proof do you want, you never believed the Dogons culture abt gods who came from Stars. You are a diveluator culture

    • @LuisRamirez-vv4dk
      @LuisRamirez-vv4dk 3 месяца назад

      Not a shred of evidence to support this claim.

    • @MrKoenanem
      @MrKoenanem 3 месяца назад

      How r u going to believe us, if your people colonized us and burned our books. Atleast revelation 13:09 give us hope that your people will be punished for what they did to us.

    • @ARvsAK
      @ARvsAK 3 месяца назад

      Easy to see that African people look like Olmecs. I bet that Mesoamerica is the origin of African people.

  • @jtg408
    @jtg408 3 месяца назад

    Ivan van Sertima wrote a book called , they came before Columbus. I am surprised no one is quoting this man who was obviously a brilliant man. He argues that the olmecs were African. Period.

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 3 месяца назад +1

      he argues it, and that's your evidence? debunked.

  • @steveblomefield9513
    @steveblomefield9513 3 месяца назад +4

    The simplest explanation [Ockham's razor] is that Africans came from Egypt to west Africa to central America. When they came to central America they has an already formed culture. Sure enough the cosmology of some west African tribes and their dating system is the same as the Olmecs. That guy you met at the museum was a descendant if the Olmecs obviously.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +1

      You call that Ockhams razor?
      Mexico today is still home to millions of indigenous people who look identical to the Olmec heads. The facial features you see on their artwork is extremely common in Mexican people. The Olmec civilization has absolutely nothing to do with Africans.
      There has never been skeletons of Africans found in Olmec territory. Human remains found in Olmec territory have been proven to be 100% Native American. Haplogroup A,B,C,D and X.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +1

      Mexico today is home to over 60 Native American communities. The Nahua people of are the direct descendants of the Aztecs. They are the people who gave the Olmecs their name. Olmecatl means “rubber people” in Nahuatl. The Aztec language. The Mixe Zoque are the direct descendants of the Olmecs.

    • @ARvsAK
      @ARvsAK 3 месяца назад

      An equally simple explanation is that Mesoamerica is the origin of African people.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      @@ARvsAK that’s 100% false and makes no sense LMAO 😂

    • @carlosm.3426
      @carlosm.3426 2 месяца назад

      Old world diseases would've wiped out the native american population 😂😂😂 small pox doesn't ring a bell??? That originated in Africa among numerous other diseases and viruses smh

  • @PointmanOps
    @PointmanOps 3 месяца назад

    Alone the fact that the so called "expert" didn't know where the Olmec lived just goes to show how reliable his theories are. Read a book called, Maya to Aztec: Ancient Mesoamerica Revealed. You will get a more fact-based explanation of everything Olmec and other Mesoamerican civilizations.

  • @steffonblack7675
    @steffonblack7675 3 месяца назад +11

    The Olmecs were people of African descent who came to the Americas from Western Africa on long boats. Just, look at the Lips, Noses, and Hairstyles on the human heads. The Africans were in the Americas Thousands of Years before the Europeans.

    • @colinchampollion4420
      @colinchampollion4420 3 месяца назад +1

      Read the comments ~▪︎Afro-Centrics

    • @colinchampollion4420
      @colinchampollion4420 3 месяца назад +4

      The Olmecas facial features are common among modern-day Mexicans ~ people are still alive with these Mexican- Indigenous features ~ with NO ~West Coas t Sub-Saharan-Africans blood-lines 😂🎉! Read the comments 😮

    • @ninchiedunn
      @ninchiedunn 3 месяца назад

      Lol west africans couldnt even build a seafaring ship to get out the bay😂😂😂 negrocentrics are the definition of uneducated

    • @natureboy5990
      @natureboy5990 3 месяца назад

      ​@@colinchampollion4420the reason they have those features is caused they are mixed. Mexican isn't a race.

    • @demetriusmixon4141
      @demetriusmixon4141 3 месяца назад +1

      The Original people were on every part of the Earth, while those known today as Europeans were mostly in the area of the Caucasus. You know that line... thus the term "Indo-European."

  • @user-fu5ws7sn2b
    @user-fu5ws7sn2b Месяц назад

    I'm a Mexican man and I will tell you that I have uncles in my family with those exact facial features and they are not black men.notice the art work on the helmets their not African in style there's nothing like that in Africa it's different.vlacks are not native to the Americas.its got similarities to Asian type of design to it.the olmecs had straight hair and they were shorter in stature.

  • @andymccracken4046
    @andymccracken4046 3 месяца назад +7

    The "handbag" symbol at Golbeki Tepe appears to be a symbol for sunrise, an equinox symbol. The guy holding one might be "the man who knows the calendar".

  • @daviddealba9886
    @daviddealba9886 3 месяца назад +2

    I know why the Olmec have those chubby features .its because the figures are of athletic participates of the ball game .you can use no hands and that rubber ball is heavy .well I figure that their faces are swollen from getting hit in the face with the ball .my opinion

  • @gerardovillarreal4640
    @gerardovillarreal4640 3 месяца назад +8

    The Olmec and the Maya existed at the same time

    • @alexortiz7446
      @alexortiz7446 3 месяца назад

      did they fight each other is the question

    • @tacossouls392
      @tacossouls392 3 месяца назад +1

      The Inca too & their empire lasted til conquest

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад +2

      @@alexortiz7446 no, the maya came 1000 years after the Olmecs. They did not exist at the same time.

    • @YellowCapeInvincible
      @YellowCapeInvincible 3 месяца назад

      @@alexortiz7446 the direct descendants of the Olmecs today are the Mixe Zoque people of Mexico.

    • @AndreaHernandez-7722
      @AndreaHernandez-7722 3 месяца назад

      ​@@alexortiz7446so what they were natural way fight each other alike brothers and sisters used with arrow and bow without a poison toxically weapon old world health care issues an cancer ect but not here back to the futured zero

  • @malcolmhendrix9567
    @malcolmhendrix9567 Месяц назад

    Graham knows they were African. He says he can't remember what they looked like with no helmets in that interview. He said that because this destroys the "Mystery." Thor Hyerdahl did show that the rafts in Peru are exact copies of the ones found in Egypt. Even the reeds are harvested the same time of year. The currents in the oceans are conveyor belts that connect all the continents!

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 13 дней назад

      none of that nonsense is true

  • @eastafrika728
    @eastafrika728 3 месяца назад +6

    The Olmecs are Afrikan Ancient Egyptians via west Afrika, around Ghana and Nigeria. They extracted rubber from the rubber tree Funtumia elastica, which is native to that region of west Afrika. They then transported the trees to South America, where they are now considered native trees. Olmec refers to their rubber processing abilities.

    • @eeeaten
      @eeeaten 3 месяца назад +10

      absolutely not. the first africans in the americas arrived in the 1500s. the rubber tree in the americas is Pará (Havea brasiliensis), native to the amazon. 99% of the world's rubber comes from Pará rubber trees. genetics shows ALL the oldest human remains in the americas are native american, not african.

    • @DavidSyed-ne9ix
      @DavidSyed-ne9ix 3 месяца назад

      Has any DNA ever been extracted from any ancient north or south American skeleton that shows African origin?

    • @lordpizza4391
      @lordpizza4391 3 месяца назад

      They developed everything everywhere except in subsaharan Africa, where they developed nothing.​@@eeeaten

    • @CHAZZ08
      @CHAZZ08 2 месяца назад +1

      This would make sense i did a 23 and me and I have mesoamerican blood Nigerian and Ghanaian blood

    • @CHAZZ08
      @CHAZZ08 2 месяца назад

      ​@@eeeatenyou do know people from the Amazon have african blood too right?

  • @troyelam8978
    @troyelam8978 3 месяца назад +1

    The dude on this video is trying his best to cope with the fact the Olmecs were most likely black. He’s bringing up one dude he saw in a museum in Veracruz. Well, hell, I’m sure you did see some folks in Veracruz with black features. Why do people tend to forget Mexico was a slave colony! people act as if Spain came to the New World in order to develop new nations. All of these nations of the Americas, from North to south, were simply meant as plantation farms/slave colonies to support and enrich the Mother nations in Europe! People have black features, and Veracruz, because they’re mixed with black slave blood, like 80% of every other Mexican!
    What this guy also leaves out is the way the Olmec heads are placed along the beach. They’re literally facing Africa! He conveniently left that part out.
    I’m not even sure why Hispanics have a problem admitting some of their ancestors were black. It’s not like they’re some sort of high end mighty race. They’re more broke and ragged than we are!

    • @lukecaverns
      @lukecaverns  3 месяца назад +1

      Lol not a single Olmec head was placed along the beach facing Africa. In fact, 3 of them at La Venta were facing west… away from Africa.
      Where did you get the made up facts?

    • @troyelam8978
      @troyelam8978 3 месяца назад +1

      @@lukecaverns so are you suggesting those heads are just representations of the regular indigenous Indian people? Are we going to pretend there’s any tribes or people that aren’t mixed with Black that live in those areas? You do realize half of Mexico already lives in the US, so we know what they look like. they are what they look like. Representations of Black people.

    • @sebastianbenitez948
      @sebastianbenitez948 2 месяца назад

      @@troyelam8978 lmfao holy hell, you want to be us so bad

    • @sebastianbenitez948
      @sebastianbenitez948 2 месяца назад

      your people are the most homeless, no one wants to be yall, yall want to be us, so called hispanics also own more businesses than blacks, youre interested in our history/culture, we dont care about yours

    • @troyelam8978
      @troyelam8978 2 месяца назад

      @@sebastianbenitez948 I want to be a Mexican?🤣 why the hell would I want to be Mexican, when Mexican girls want Blacks? Sorry, try again.

  • @leftfield123
    @leftfield123 3 месяца назад +3

    Hancock has to be the most quoted and least proven person in archeology.

  • @Kayessee
    @Kayessee 3 месяца назад

    Your Veracruz argument has holes... Discounting the fact that a lot of African people were taken to the Americas and interbreed with the population. Looks like an Olmec might just mean that an African interbreeding has happened. Don't discount and disrespect.

  • @MrKoenanem
    @MrKoenanem 3 месяца назад +2

    Adam pyramid in south africa is the oldest pyramid in the world going back to around 75000years old. Olmec are still kids in african excellence

    • @joearchuleta7538
      @joearchuleta7538 3 месяца назад

      that is not a pyramid, Please provide me a link to this 75thousand year old pyramid, if you have one, and if you don't then we know what that means.

    • @MrKoenanem
      @MrKoenanem 3 месяца назад

      I dont understand you how you think, you are already telling me its me its not a pyramid, you dont no what im talking about, you see you are the devil the bible speak of.[ devaluator], your 4father were angry abt a black excellence. South africa has solomon mine and 4get about any link. Please dont respond devil

  • @art1muz13
    @art1muz13 3 месяца назад +1

    11:43 what if there weren't generations of artists that learned to carve? What if the creators of these and every stelae, totem or whatever, were ''natural'' at making these? What if the could manipulate atoms, molecules and any and all manner of any substance in a way that we would understand, if we saw these creations beings created. Luke, please do a deep dive on ''Tartessos''
    Coordinates: 37.0000°N 6.2000°W
    Tartessos (Spanish: Tartesos) is, as defined by archaeological discoveries,[1] a historical civilization settled in the southern Iberian Peninsula characterized by its mixture of local Paleohispanic and Phoenician traits. It had a writing system, identified as Tartessian, that includes some 97 inscriptions in a Tartessian language. ACADEMIA SAYS WHAT HAS JUST BEEN WRITTEN. LUKE SHOW US THE TRUTH>

  • @kwanedouglas3773
    @kwanedouglas3773 3 месяца назад +3

    Olmec head paper weight in the bacc ground on the movie higher learning with ice cube

  • @AfkaSound
    @AfkaSound 3 месяца назад

    The “ plumed serpent” looks more like a Harpy eagle to me that we already “know” is the olmec “bird monster god”, god of the sun and sky and also kingship. Perhaps the olmecs adding snake features is what became the plumbed serpent but isnt directly one and the same?

  • @reverefilms14
    @reverefilms14 3 месяца назад +7

    So I guess It’s taboo to be African outside of Africa before the 1600s lol

    • @mathewchandler2565
      @mathewchandler2565 2 месяца назад

      Africans aren't the only blacks with those features

  • @williambock1821
    @williambock1821 3 месяца назад

    That sucks the Olmecs are being talked about by grifters . It’s actually an interesting topic.