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I've never cheated on a woman, ever. I've been with my wife for ten years, and she is my lover, my best friend and my teammate. Together, we are strong, and we have conquered everything.
Find a spouse and build a foundation with them. Be loyal to your union, and you'll be showered with riches.
Exactly. I am kinda broke, but my girlfriend is very very supportive of my purpose. You can find a woman that will stay by you in your hard times, it's just that social media is twisting what we think is reality.
You can find a good and loyal woman, but many men just don't know how to vet a woman properly. And many men also kinda overlook them.
The future is going to be riddled with depressed single parents crawling in and out of each others bed’s never really finding anything more than superficial pleasure.
Yep oh well let them do it they will learn when it’s to late and we can laugh
@@concernedcitizen6676 why you so butthurt?
Does it really matter anyways? Only got one life to live 🤓
@@Haha20.02 well it does it you want that life to be a good one
@@gordianknot6867 Depend on what one defines as a good life to them, but that’s true
I actually know of some situations where husbands are fathering children that they think belong to them
That is so sad. One simple way to avoid this from the beginning is to NEVER date or get in a relationship with single moms.
@@lol6434I don’t know if you saw what I said. Married women are cheating on their husbands, and they just give the baby to the husband, even when the baby belongs to the secret lover.
@@lol6434 that’s not going to stop a man raising children that don’t belong to them. His wife can have an affair and birth another man’s baby while convincing her husband that it belongs to him. It happens a lot more often than we acknowledge.
@@charlyb9194 and its disgusting. We birthed souls now were birthing biological carriers because you want to have an affair or he wants a mistress. May God take away all aspects of this degenerative society and restore order in humanity.
@@lol6434 or make DNA test mandatory at birth. Idk why this isn’t normal in 2023.
I love that he pointed out the fact about women. He’s being factual. If women have multiple men, why is it so taboo to talk about? It’s a fact that we need to face.
It doesn’t work the same
@@OmarOsman98 a lot of people state this without a real explanation but everyone has their opinion. The truth is that men and women cheat, even though we like to pretend that men are only capable of polyamory/polygamy.
@@OmarOsman98 there’s literally no difference between a man having multiple wives and a woman having multiple husbands. Both are shit things to do. Simple.
One man can impregnate many women at once but a woman can only bear the child(ren) of one man in a 9 month period. Considering marriage has historically been about reproduction, it makes more sense for a man to have multiple women from the standpoint of efficient child production a.k.a. our primary biological function as living organisms.
Beta males are born to satisfy whores. Other men choose good wives, yes plural.
We tilt toward monogamy because it's simply more stable.
Monogamy has been a thing for a millennium.
True, third world countries are third world for a reason.
Is it more stable? Monogamy has not equal stability actually.
@@greatnesspersonified9676if you look at anthropological data, you will see that monomgy does help civilize populations of people.
@avapilsen America shows monogamy does not equate to stability. What is the solution to women who cannot find a man?
There are not enough men to give to one woman.
@@greatnesspersonified9676 okay because your opinion is correct and scientific evidence is not
These guys who are defending polygamy so badly are probably the same guys who are quick to go buy some milk as soon as child support is getting on their case
The creator allows polygyny.
@@ottom.3094but the creator is lyi ng there is no adam and womn fk more then men
@@jusibalkari the world’s science priest is lying - you can’t leave the earth. You’re stuck here. Your globe they taught you in school is a lie. Musk is a liar. Your politicians are liars. Your teachers are liars.
I'd raise all my kids and i aint against it but i see more benfits for monogamy
@@7hinkable There’s benefits too - always a mother home raising the children, instead of daycare. More hands on deck - one wife can cook while the other does laundry. More children - which means they protect each other. Jacob had 12 sons and they literally went to war and conquered after their sister was raped. I promise you they think twice before raping a daughter from Jacob’s family.
It’s excruciating to want to stay for the children but being abused, cheated on and degraded on a weekly basis.
I mean why why why people go for more than one husband or wifes . Man be happy with one . Do everything you want to do with one . For me I will never think of any other women in my whole life . The person that I love is everything for me and whatever I want to do, I do with that person . I don't understand why some people choose to be pologamy . For sex , I mean I have heard some people on comments saying it's boring to have sex with same patner and they go and have sex with multiple partners including their partners also . It sucks . Become a men and a women . Not some machine .
Come on we all know any man on this earth would collect as many women as he could, i’m not insulting anyone nor it should be insulting, it’s just the truth we have to deal with.
@Sapphire stone i don’t want that either i despise it, but it’s there and i don’t want to pretend that it doesn’t and live on on lies so that’s that. I’m a woman btw
@@ker_at6814 But that's not the case with me .Even i am a boy . You know I hate to have a lot of women's in my life . It's like to be a machine and to work for everyone . And this goes to women also even they are not some machine that they will go for every man . No i hate that thing . It's sucks . I mean how people be happy with lot of partners . And the thing that man would collect as many women on this earth is sucks . Not every man thinks like that . Because I never thought that thing in my life and i will never do it . Because I want only one person in my life to be with me till my end of the life journey . With full trust , respect , caring , understanding each other , so much happy with each other and the most important to be loving each other . And she will be everything for me . Only me and she and no one else that's it and that's suppose to be in my life . I don't know about others . But for me i want that person in my life . Only one .i choose to be in monogamous relationships .
@@41_fybbi_yuvraj that’s cool man, you seem young and majority of men out there think other wise. I mean a huge proportion of men.
@@ker_at6814 yeah i know that there are men who want such things in their life and i don't know why . Why they are not happy being with one . But there are also men who want only one . They want to spend their whole life with that one person rather than many . If there is positive, there is negative also . And in this world , everything have negative and positive side . If there is God , there is evil also . And you yourself in this world have to fight with negativity to achieve positive things in your life . The only thing in your life and even my life stops us from having what we want is a good mindset . If you think there are men out there who wants to be with a lot of women , you will find it . And i know that there are these types of men who want that thing . But if you keep faith that there is possibility . Then you will have it . Fear and faith they both requires you to believe in something you can't see . Why not choose faith . Latch on to what you want , deliberately picture it and carefully examine that picture and then trust the creative process . Believe it , believe it , just beleive it . Play the game of belief . Only you can do it .
If you cant do the honor of choosing ONE and doing right by that one person and giving all your love and undivided attention because you love and wanna make that person happy, if you cant do that your a terrible lover its not real love its a selfish empty feast where no one is truely deeply fed, so you dont deserve that person. OR anyone.
Absolutely Correct. 💯
Loser talk. Don’t judge others or knock things you haven’t tried.
1 Kings 11:3 saving someone’s life. Ecclesiastes 12:13 and Matthew 6:24
Not because you have a children with high status profile it means that you assure that your child will be more intelligent or successful in life, actually you highly risking that kid and exposed to be rejected by your husband causing a lot damage of somebody genetic superior then your owns and make him been maybe bad person or redirect his skills.
It's mainly recently that men find out or go for a DNA test. Men are very naive and trustful when it comes to women. Statistically, around 30% of children are "miss" fathered.
Depends where you're from. Some would ask- at a time, others- over a lifetime?
poly is such a twisted fantasy…
Awkward situation if somebody can’t love one person for who they are and it’s not true that
Why do you assume that we are designed to fall in love with one person? Your view is very ethnocentric and your concept of love is seemingly narrow. Polygamy can determine the quality of children produced and the self-preservation of a community/tribe. You can have multiple women and love/admire them respectively. We are not ordained to all fall in love with one partner let alone find happiness.
@@jaybrood9 do you let your woman do the same to you?
@@jaybrood9 1 soul can only love another soul of the opposite gender. You can only love one of them and others become side chicks.
@@pepetheiii6866 That is view which the Greeks had initially expressed most notably in books like the Symposium -- By Plato. It is one of many views, but even then the Greeks themselves who praised monogamy were relatively polygamous.
@@pepetheiii6866well you said so so it must be true! Because...logic! Durrrrrr
If you can just get as much as u want share equal love to those wifes that trusted you its like if you have the capability and whats in your mind just do it ❤❤
I knew a great guy that was fathered by the neighbor. At the first year, he was taken to the neighbor man and his wife and left with the bio father. When this father died when he was 14, the wife ie, step mom, booted him out with his mother’s address.
I see tribal women choose this life style. It maybe that there is a lack of men in the tribe. Similar to societies that have huge differences in male deaths in that society, from higher risky behaviour, higher use of alcohol or decades of internal or external conflicts.
Tribal women choose what lifestyle??.
Look at black women today, are the tribal? They are banking every pookie and Titus that can make a dollar. Same with white girls. They are backing it up for the same guy their bff did yesterday. Are they tribal? I think that we already live with it.
I'm not playing that game, thank you. This is why we all need to get back together with God and His Son Christ.
is polygamy marriages are allowed in America?
In Utah state only
The trick to having multiple spouses is, you have to marry Identicals. this way everyone thinks you just have the one spouse. Twins, triplets and if you have a lot of money quadruplets.
Always the damn women and their schemes…. Yikes..
Jesus Jones, why does Joe Rogan constantly ask his guests about polyamorous relationships? He's got a literal "my wife's daughter," and I don't know how many more clips of guests telling him polygamy is stupid he can take before going full Supreme Gentleman.
Monogamous relationship is a Christian western concept
I agree, because I am a man. I'm only attracted to woman and I am trying to get a pokémon or 2.
More catholic then Christian, cuz God is ok with polygamy in the Bible
@@jamalmassey918 when?
@@jamalmassey918 how is that even Catholic? The oriental orthodox churches, who have never been calcedonic or niceean promote monogamy. Plus polygamy is looked down upon in the Bible, it happens there, but is never promoted, quite the opposite
@@ilietudor6878 how is polygamy looked down upon when numerous biblical figures had multiple wives including Moses with 2?
Did you know virginity is better than being married? Its about spirituality
It's really disgusting honestly.
Also when you take more than one wife at the time it just shows you have no respect for your first wife, you don't love any of the wemen you want to marry on the side (side chicks) or the One that you already have. One is not enough for you apparently and let's be honest the excuse of helping by marrying more wemen just because their poor that is not helping because any man having more than one wife doesn't do it to help they gain side chicks, if they wanted to help they would find them a job and make them autonomous.
And also takes all the meaning of marriage away, since marriage is between to half which complete one another and gives each other full devotion for life which is the promise during the ceremony till death do them part. The ring signifies that promise.
And reality is that your only wife is the first one you are married to and the rest are just side chicks / concubines.
Unless you have divorced the first one or the first one has died.
Lastly if you want to have multiple concubines aside from your true and only real wife there is not difference in you cheating on her or playing around it is the same thing. Playing around or taking multiple concubines is the same.
Not to speak about the fact that if you as a husband ho sleep with a woman that is not legally married to you apart from you so called concubines or wife and catch a disease. You will give that STD to all of your concubines and actual wife1.
At least be in a relationship with one person at the time, this is why poliandry marriages donttlast at all. And there is also the emotional side to this, knowing your with your kid and your husband is going to be with another woman other than you that night and then he will come to you. Even more disgusting.
This applies to Poliandry too.
The answer is one partner at the time untill you find the right one. And that is it.
I don’t agree with you because of the word “love” what is love? Love is a very strong feeling of affection towards someone who you are care about. We love our parents, friends, siblings and most importantly your god not only that when you become a father of three kids that doesn’t mean you love some of your kids like in some cases rather you love them equally
And most importantly wives are not that important in life when you compare to other things that is my perception
The important thing is to treat them equally with love.
❤❤❤❤❤❤
Well, I assure you that I can love more 2 or 3 women than you can love one woman
@@SynthersizerX thats not love, you're a male hooker. cope
@@PaperrCuttttA man can love multiple women, just like a parent can love multiple children
Being married and having an affair is not monogamy. So how can you claim that monogamy is the tilt?
Polygamy doesn’t work..if it did we would have never switched to monogamy.
You know if the world started off with monogamy, one deadly disease would have wiped out our civilization. Polygamy populated the world at a faster pace.
Newsflash, monogamy doesn’t work by that logic either. Not only that it’s pointless, it’s a total failure too. Most of the divorce/separation rates happens in monogamy. If a man gets with an average woman today, she got kids already. If not, she not only she already lost her v-card anyway, and she’s already been sexually active with a man or men.
Smart man
Women want yo become breading mares.
Yes, BOTH men and women would like multiple partners. Not just men. AND it is self-destrucitve and destructive for the relationship and society as a whole. BOTH men and women should have self-control with their desires.
😂Women by nature are meant to have one husband men by nature are meant have multiple wives
@@Egg-wt1pk
Really?
I'll take that challenge.
First question:
Do men or women have more of a capacity for s e x?
@@Egg-wt1pk my response was deleted. Challenge accepted. Answer me these questions. I'll give you one at a time, allowing you to explain:
@@Egg-wt1pk who has a higher capacity for coitus?
Yeah. It keeps deleting me. Ugh.
I don't know about this one .. I usually agree with most of the things I hear JP say but THIS???
"A Purely Factual and Biological Claim?" UHmmmm... "How WOMEN Gerrymander the system?" Ohhhh noooo he didn't..
He just cant help himself ,he always goes of on a tangent about "women "and what they apparently do wrong.
Woman is not suppose to have more men..
We do, we women love men too!
@@dontbeasecondwife5549 the best thing that can happen in the world is to be a second wife...
@@abriesteyn6055 the best thing that can happen in the world is to be a second Husband....
@@xsride447 hahahahahahahha
@@xsride447 the best thing that can happen is becoming a boywife for ur husband and wife
Its more common for men in marriages to cheat outside the marriage. Hopefully Jordan gets to talk about that next time
Its almost equal. Its 28% to 24%. And they know woman were more likely to have lied about infidelity more than men so they suspect its high for women. The study has been done already
@@everythingupkins8957 I still have doubts on that since its very easy to make the statistics lie to say what you want them to say by changing the parameters and demographics of the study.
Link it anyway
@@BlueEyesWhiteDragonStanthen what makes you think it’s more common for men in marriages to cheat outside of marriage.
@@BlueEyesWhiteDragonStan Clown only wants to believe the stats that favours her side. All stats matter, and the stats say men and women cheat at roughly the same rate.
The problem is not cheating itself, but duty and responsibility.
- When men cheat, they are less likely to cheat as a replacement to their wives i.e less likely to abandon their duty. Women cheat, and you can almost smell the ink on the divorce while the climax is happening.
- When men's cheating results in a child, the man is very very likely to take on the responsibility of the mistake. Imagine how rare it is to hear of a man who gets a child out of wedlock, forcing or even asking his wife to bear the responsibility of parent
- however, when women cheat, they can't take the damn responsibility but will hide and force their husbands to bear the responsibility of parenthood.
In short, men and women cheat at the same rate, but men unfortunately have more honour in their mistakes.
@@BlueEyesWhiteDragonStanNo, because the cheatinf statistic is self reported.
Women are more likely to lie in those statistics because of social pressure.
I would suggest women cheat equally becaus of how easy is for them to get sex.
Polygamy is of the devil. Evolution has primed humans to be competitive. This competitive drive inspires envy, greed and selfishness towards resources, be they of sexual or financial nature. Now, imagine yourself with 2 partners. They may have been friends at one point. As soon as the focus of the husband shifts towards one woman, all of this is going to start cooking. You're basically asking for trouble.
The Damn for these 🦫!!!
Societies now tilt towards monogamy previously you had a single male and multiple females you had harems slaves you had wives princesses multiple queens mistresses and in tribes and societies in Egypt in every culture also the vikings and the Muslims and pre Islamic Arabs and Christian Jews like you name it it was a polygamist society and Africa native America Europe Russia the Turk lands india Persia anywhere you had massive polygamist systems there could be a wife but then there were slaves it is now that things have settled down our social structures have changed way of life has changed priorities have changed less wars more educated research based humans like now you can’t find cases except the isolated tribes especially that one in India…
Like you can’t base everything on today my guy previously we had polygamy commonly like during my great grandparents even no it’s like Oh looked down upon distanced away by avoided by men and women and societies like our brought ups our education our propaganda our life style and idealism of a nuclear family is different…
In fact we are going even beyond trying to change our own very nature oh we identify as so and so…and this has gone so bad that people have poured acid into their eyes as the women felt she is blind I don’t remember the last time people giving a damn who is from where and who is from which colour race cast now it’s like an issue now it’s like an issue now it’s a pain you can’t even go out with men safely or women like it’s weird and messed up but regardless
Polygamy was in fact the basis and essence of human society and animals as well so yeah
You are only mentioning kings and high status men of the past. It's the majority that sets the 'common' practice.
Look at the third world nations that allow polygyny. 🤔. Hmm, it seems that advancing in the world may or may not correlate with it? Since men get more 'satisfied' with multiple wives and or get occupied.
Polygamy was meant for war times. Men used to die a lot. So, to balance out the population polygamy was practiced. We are not living in the war times anymore. So the only reason for polygamy is cheating.
Polygamy can be a perfect matrimony for many people IF they have strong faith in Him and His word. If not, I believe it would not work.
It doesn't work either way. And if you're referring to the God of the Bible, he says a man should be the husband of ONE wife.
@@JBerry-ec7ck You are very ill-informed. There are many polygamist families that have successful marriages, without divorce. They raise their children in the home together. Fortunately , in the US we have freedom to choose our religion, belief system, etc.
@@billiehummel Not biblical. Read the bible again before you talk about its God like that.
@@JBerry-ec7ck Relax, Kyle. I find it laughable that you claim to know His word whenever you can’t even comprehend my simple 2 sentence comment.
Taliban
It's important to say that polygamy is not the same as polyamory. And people CAN cheat inside polyamorous relationships.
not true, Islam is polygamous, only problem with polygamy is that you need a lot of resources to make it working, so it only works well under certain conditions
most of Asia was polygamous until recently. It's the west that has been monogamous for a long time, thanks to Roman and Greek traditions and much more particularly thanks to the fall of the Western Roman Empire and the need that arose at that time of a unifying cultural mechanism for protecting the falling society
The wester model has been copied throughout the world simply because Western society resulted as the most successful in the later periods, so you tend to copy what is successful.
But between the 5th and the 18th, when Islam was successful, most cultures remain polygamous, just as Islam is
in fact now, due to the fact that women have been very successful in the last 50 years and hypergamy, the model is moving towards polygamy yet again, simply because the: we need no men psychology needs a higher status male to attach to
I agree however it's polygany strictly
@@canemcave😂That's where you are wrong. West was polgmous like everything in the world. Manogmy become part in almost simairly time around the world. It came to India by itself. It came to west by itself
Not all guys are incels, but all guys who like this video are incels.
not all of the women are whores, but the ones who comment shit like the ones you do are whores.
incels don't exist. just people shooting higher than what they are capable of. Lemme guess you smashed a 3 and now you think you're top shit? 🤣🤣
Would you mind explaining why, exactly?
I'd also like to see his *data* to prove his point,@@lookwhatyoudidtomyfish4453 .
@@bodiesbydefinition a very reasonable question, although most people like him rarely have sources so i would be shocked if he did
All cultures at one time had polygamy and it was to protect women. Also, the man is not a second mother when children are born. The other wives would help with the chores and raising children. Men would start teaching their sons at around 6 years old.
And why is polygamy not a thing now if it worked out so well? Oh right it didn’t anyway if it were to become a thing again which is basically has just not on an very soft level where all these women only date tall rich attractive men it would be like that but way more extreme with even more men single and sexless can you believe that lol? How can they be more men single and sexless but that’s what would happen women are emotional they would never be okay with cheating even in cultures where it’s normal there’s still lots of jealousy and violence surrounding that , I’ve spoken to people who have grown up in those households and that’s the recurring theme it just doesn’t work so if they can’t get a loyal partner they will just go for all the superficial things like what women are doing now just on a way less extreme level but if you are attractive tall confident got money then I guess you have nothing to worry about you won’t be one of the left over men but the fact you’re defending polygamy I’m a comment section tells me you’re not
It’s easier to cleanup after yourself than a bunch of people. A bunch of stds running around
Monogamy weakens the breed - think about it for ten seconds. It may even be the reason why civilizations collapse over time. Anarchy allows for polygamy to reassert itself which creates strong men who build up civilization again. And on the cycle goes.
Are you sure? What about the stability monogamy provides? Isn't creating a stable family, one without people being out of wedlock, a building block for society? Raising children like a proper family should? Isn't the family the smallest unit of society itself? So a strong family means a strong society, which means civilization right?
@ themonrovian8441 keep sh1tting non-sense
Polygamy has literally kept the wealthiest families thriving but that gets ignored
@@randylin1871polygamy doesn’t mean kids out of wetlock
@@randylin1871Thats why men should be allowed to be polgmous not Women
It was a waste of time listening to this man
People are brainwashed to think one person can supply them with everything they need and that's simply ridiculous and highly unlikely in one's lifetime. Personally, seeing the same person everyday for 1-2 years kills my sex drive. im pretty sure Im not alone. Now, that is not necessarily important in a marriage but why would you say bye to your sex life? That is why an open relationship can work for some if it is done the right way. It can keep a solid relationship alive, long term. People are not all suited to one type of relationship and I think we should be more open to alternatives to the one man-one woman pattern.
Bro a hornball control yourself kings don’t deal with multiple women
That’s because ur relationship is solely based on SEX
but not everyone is like you. sex isn't everything in life. we also have alot of other works to do for living.
@@KingzCODM You're a degenerate and I feel bad for your man if you really feel this way. There's loads of ways to improve your sex life and your first call is to go to someone else? What sort of idiot are you lol.
If you really care this much about sex it's kinda sad. There's so much more to life. Raise a child (although he might not know who his dad is), adopt some pets, go travelling. Shit like sex is good and a deep individual connection but these memories like travelling and raising children are more beautiful and can only be experienced once.
Is not brainwash , plus if u can deal with person , how can u deal with two , that’s such a mess
You know nothing about creation. Human history is not only hundred years, it's million years.
So married men is not high hi status? Please you talk nonsens.
Polygamy is wrong, end of story
polygyny is the way
To be sexless and wifeless if you aren’t tall handsome confident and rich
For gorillas
Total Hog- Wash and
Not of God!
Man Proposes ideas.
God disposes of them.
Be humble and not Greedy and Possessive. So selfish and animalistic. We are on Earth to learn to be kind, submissive to God and we will be HELD ACCOUNTABLE for our Errors.
Just a little perspective for you.
I have ALWAYS been true and faithful to my Wife of 33 years .
She helps me to be a better person than I already was. I’m now 72 and we are SO HAPPY!!