Great explanation. I'm currently learning this at work and my colleague tech me her method of using scissors to cut the shape of aligners out but I find it difficult on the hands. I think your method is so much easier.
Christiana Marie it must be replaced. I suggest you get digital impression and model made first, from this model mint retainers can be made and will save money in long term
excellent video and a terrific primer on how to fabricate Zendura retainers for any lab tech interested in upping her or his technique for making top-tier retainers.
Savage Cabbage hi I can make you one but I need a model of your teeth, if you have a STL file I. An get a model printed and make you a new retainer of you can send me a stone model, I will convert it to a digital model first then use the stone mode to make the retainer. Email me on denver@fastorthodontics.com.au to discuss further.
Maloney Dental & Cosmetic Hello, I need a new retainer, I have a stone model of my teeth made by an orthodontist, I was wondering if there was any chance you could make me a retainer? thanks
How come you don't put an extra thin layer of block-out resin (sometimes blue color) on the outside of the teeth so there is enough extra space for the whitening material ?
Hi Gung I do it for a couple of reasons which are; the patient has to use less gel and I have found that it has no impact on the whitening result as only a very small amount will diffuse into the tooth enamel as well. I do sometimes place some spacer as a reservoir from the incisal edge down to 2-3mm above the DEJ and mesio-distally confine it to the flat area do not take it beyond the mesial and distal line angles onto the curved surface of these areas. I only do this if the patient needs extra whitening on some teeth, I very rarely do it. For the spacer I use a small flat ended camel hair art brush, to apply a very thin layer of some dental plaster which I mix up as a runny slurry and paint it onto a dry model, works great and is very cost effective. I hope that helps Cheers Denver
Why can't the mould be pre-shaped to the shape in which you are cutting it at later stage? That way the retainers will be thicker and more durable because the material wouldn't stretch out on the whole thing thereby thinning the final product.
Thanks a lot for this video, Doctor! I do have a question tho, the retainers my ortho gave me only cover half of my front teeth, it doesnt go all the way to the gumline. i didnt ask why but does it change anything? have you ever seen it done like that?
I make my own retainers, but occasionally they are slack fitting. I use either 1mm or 1.5mm sheet I am confused as to what I'm doing wrong, they are vaccum form tight around the mould, so in theory these should be tight fitting every time. Any help appreciated.
Do orthodontists keep the molding of a patients teeth? Initially I had the plastic retainers but lost them I thought I could get my original plastic retainers again exactly like the ones I had prior but I was told that the ortho didn’t have my molding of my teeth which was when I initially had my braces taken off.
Always wanted to know how these were made so thanks for showing. Trouble is with these retainers they are so tight on the teeth I have to prize them off and damage my nails. Must be the plastic used.
Doc, if I lost my retainer, can I just bring my molds back to my dentist and have her/him made another plastic retainer from that mold? And then maybe get a discount?
I lost my retainer and I got new ones from another dentist but with this retainer my teeth doesn't fit with the other teeth and it's not precisely shaped aleykumselam my teeth. When I told my dentist that it didn't close good enough he didn't care. Is it a problem? I only wear the upper retainer
Is there another way of melting the plastic that precise way? Had braces for 4years ,got them off and my retainers broke 6mnths ago,was caught up with things and couldn't go so my teeth shifted a bit. My dentist is asking me for 500$. I don't mind but I'm having a jaw surgery somewhere at the end of the year. I just need something to hold my teeth together while i wait. I already have the impression of my teeth. Plus I bought the clear plastic I just can't find a dentist who'll charge me for the use of a machine by plugging it. Lol is there another heating system that can be use?
Unfortunately you not only need heating you also need pressure to mold the plastic. I have a cheap Chinese machine that does apply the heat and uses vacuum to mold the heated plastic but is is not as accurate as pressure forming. The Chinese machine can be purchased through Ebay the details are eBay item number:182128430556 and it is called Dental Lab Vacuum Forming & Molding Former Thermoforming Material Machine JT-18. But you need square plastic blanks and you need to know how to operate it.
I just got my braces off last week and went to the ortho to make an extra retainer cost me $259 for extra upper, but I found this company that does it for more than half the price less. I wished I found them before, I could have had four made for the price I paid for the extra upper. :( Here is there website: www.clearretain.com/
Hi Charlotte Thanks for the link there are so many things that can go wrong with impressions, I would be dubious about getting this done, best bet is to find someone to take a digital scan of your teeth or better still get your orthodontic dentist to scan your teeth and provide you with the soft copy file. You could send to me and I could can get it printed and make the retainer for you, the first one will cost $150 AUD plus shipping, but after that I can make more retainers at a cost of $60 plus shipping for each retainer. Thanks Dr Maloney
My retainer snapped in half will the dentist still have a mound of my teeth it's only been 1 or 2 years I believe.and I didn't wear my retainer much I've been wearing them for the past 2 to 3 months so they have nearly came back to place.or can they take a mound of my current retainer.
My retainers broke so I got some new ones last week. It’s been a week and I’ve just realised my dentist cut my retainers and the top bit of the retainer is too low therefore the top of my tooth is covered with the retainer. Is this okay or would I need to go back? I’m so worried.
Hello I have a question. Is it normal for a dental clinic not to give their patients a retainer for 10 days after taking their braces off. Mine took 10 days and in that time my teeth shifted quite a lot, there’re literally gaps between my bottom front teeth and my retainers don’t even fit. What should i do?
Do you block out excessive undercuts in the model before making the retainer? My retainer was digging into my gums and causing blanching so I had my orthodontist re-do it and block out some of those areas but it still does this (although not as bad as before).
I have a retainer for applying fluoride gel that I also use for at-home bleaching. I am thinking about getting Invisalign (or equal clear aligners). Could I use the aligners for both these purposes and could I just keep the last aligner to use as a bleaching tray after the treatnent? Because by then obviously the tray/retainer I have now obviously won't fit anymore. Alternatively: The one I have now is made of a flexible thermoplast. Could I give it to someone to have it reformed to the new position of my teeth?
I have a question. I just got my braces off yesterday and since my flight to my hometown was 3 hours after they told me they will post it instead. So I'm free of retainer since yesterday and today. The retainer probably would arrive a week or more. Would my teeth shift even slightest bit within those week? I'm scared because I'm loving my new smile.
Hi, I recently lost my upper set of teeth retainer after only recently started wearing again after a few months of not. And right now my top front tooth is protruding out a little from the symmetrical circular shape. Can I request my dentist to adjust the model of my teeth to the symmetrical circular shape before hardening the model and fitting the retainer so that it can get back to its original position? Or can I ask to make minor adjustments to the retainers like filing the front part to make it even out etc? Thank you, C.Y.
Your dentist should have a mold of your teeth when they were straightened perfectly. So he can make u that perfect mouthguard and you should b able to then straighten up that small tooth movement
Thanks for your video question 🙋♀️ what number blank did you used ? Because the number I have try to used is to flimsy and when are you uploading more videos ?
Hi Luisana. I would use block-out material to remove undercuts on the wire and composite bonding pads, plus use block-out material to create an approximately 0.25 mm space over the wire and bonding pads. The objective is to not allow the removable retainer material to exert any direct force on the wire or bonding pads. I hope that helps!
Great question; when using stone models, the answer is yes, as the model breaks when taking the retainer off the model. However, I use the process now to get a digital impression and save it to the patient file. When my patient needs a new retainer, I send the digital model to be printed and then make the replacement retainer on the printed model. The fantastic news is, the printed model does not break when removing the newly formed retainer, so I can make many retainers using a printed model. I do the scans at no additional charge to the patient. I then charge $60 to get the model printed and $60 to make a retainer using the printed model. I hope that helps with your inquiry. Regards, Denver
Can I ask why it does cost sooo much? Is it just mostly the offset for the price of the machine? All I have is a physical mold of my teeth and no extra $200+.
The cost is a function of cost recovery plus profit. The cost of running a average dental practice would be a min of around $250-$300 per hour before the dentist starts to take money home for his/her family.
@@JCV666 for a 8 months treatment I paid around 263 usd .. and paid seprate 20 odd usd for the retainers. . . You could mail them your mould. I'm going to visit my dentist Tomorrow. Il check if he's hesitant to give me a mould . . But the dentist never shares where he gets the retainer made from .. That's someone I need to find out on my own.. I'm sure it's even cheaper to directly contact the guy..
Thanks sir I need training for 3 months can you help me sir I am from Morocco, I graduated in 2008 and until now I have not been able to obtain training or work in my field of specialization
Yeah unfortunately these flimsy things are 300$ and break after 5 to 7 months. Definitely not worth it. The NBA players have these type of mouth guard but they are 3 times thicker and stronger and last over 2 yrs if u use them at night. Where do we order those mouthguards from?
The disc is called a wheel-saw; I buy them from Bourke Dental, located in Bentleigh, Victoria, Australia. I hope that helps. When I get back to the practice later today, I will look at the packaging and tell you the actual brand. Cheers, Denver
Tell me how tf am I even supposed to do this at home I don’t even know what tf I’m doin so why da hell im gone do it at home I ain’t even got the equipment😂😂😂
Omg I love that the intro cover was literally a piece of paper 😂😂😂
Yeah... I know I did not put too much effort into the production, my apologies.
Regards, Denver
@@FastOrthodontics no need to apologize dr u did a great job on the video
Thanks for making this video I have always wondered how my retainers are made
You are most welcome 🙏
Great explanation. I'm currently learning this at work and my colleague tech me her method of using scissors to cut the shape of aligners out but I find it difficult on the hands. I think your method is so much easier.
good video, good information of the retainer. Thanks Dr. Now i know how they made it. highly appreciated.
My retainer has a slight crack is it able to be fixed? Or must be replaced
Christiana Marie it must be replaced. I suggest you get digital impression and model made first, from this model mint retainers can be made and will save money in long term
Mine had a chip in it and I got it fixed without buying a new one I depends what ortho u have
excellent video and a terrific primer on how to fabricate Zendura retainers for any lab tech interested in upping her or his technique for making top-tier retainers.
Hi Chip, thanks for the feedback, so sorry for the belated reply; I hope you get notified.
Best wishes, Denver
You guys are from Albury, it's a wonderful place. Must say it was very interesting the process of making retainers.
is their a chance you can make me one or show a video how to fix a cracked one? it will help so much
Savage Cabbage hi I can make you one but I need a model of your teeth, if you have a STL file I. An get a model printed and make you a new retainer of you can send me a stone model, I will convert it to a digital model first then use the stone mode to make the retainer. Email me on denver@fastorthodontics.com.au to discuss further.
thank you so much
Maloney Dental & Cosmetic Hello, I need a new retainer, I have a stone model of my teeth made by an orthodontist, I was wondering if there was any chance you could make me a retainer? thanks
Viviano did he ever made you one?
Viviano you can t fix if is damage for 100%.you must make new one, i was ask my orthodont and she told me .
Thank you for this. Very interesting. No cleaning or sterilization happens then.
How come you don't put an extra thin layer of block-out resin (sometimes blue color) on the outside of the teeth so there is enough extra space for the whitening material ?
because this is a retainer to keep teeth still in place after bracing, some dentist may like it "perfect fit" :)
Then it would not be for teeth bleaching, which I was referring to.
Hi Gung
I do it for a couple of reasons which are; the patient has to use less gel and I have found that it has no impact on the whitening result as only a very small amount will diffuse into the tooth enamel as well.
I do sometimes place some spacer as a reservoir from the incisal edge down to 2-3mm above the DEJ and mesio-distally confine it to the flat area do not take it beyond the mesial and distal line angles onto the curved surface of these areas. I only do this if the patient needs extra whitening on some teeth, I very rarely do it.
For the spacer I use a small flat ended camel hair art brush, to apply a very thin layer of some dental plaster which I mix up as a runny slurry and paint it onto a dry model, works great and is very cost effective.
I hope that helps
Cheers Denver
Kevin L
This are retainers not bleaching trays
Why can't the mould be pre-shaped to the shape in which you are cutting it at later stage? That way the retainers will be thicker and more durable because the material wouldn't stretch out on the whole thing thereby thinning the final product.
Hi my retainers are broken in half. Will my dentist fix it or will they insist me to buy a new one?
can't fix it, you may need a new one
It depends on what ortho you have mine broke in half and they only charged $30 to fix it no buy
Kevin Luc how much are they?
how do you break a retainer in half
Hai
Thanks a lot for this video, Doctor! I do have a question tho, the retainers my ortho gave me only cover half of my front teeth, it doesnt go all the way to the gumline. i didnt ask why but does it change anything? have you ever seen it done like that?
I make my own retainers, but occasionally they are slack fitting. I use either 1mm or 1.5mm sheet I am confused as to what I'm doing wrong, they are vaccum form tight around the mould, so in theory these should be tight fitting every time. Any help appreciated.
What would happen if you accidentally trimmed a tooth? (My guess is that you would ask the patient for another impression)
Do orthodontists keep the molding of a patients teeth? Initially I had the plastic retainers but lost them I thought I could get my original plastic retainers again exactly like the ones I had prior but I was told that the ortho didn’t have my molding of my teeth which was when I initially had my braces taken off.
Hi ! I'm wearing braces and wondering that ppl with braces have to wear retainer forever of just a certain amount of time ?
Why aren't they cleaned first, with a sanitizing solution, being that they are handled with bare hands and only rinsed with water. Seem unhygienic
Always wanted to know how these were made so thanks for showing. Trouble is with these retainers they are so tight on the teeth I have to prize them off and damage my nails. Must be the plastic used.
Doc, if I lost my retainer, can I just bring my molds back to my dentist and have her/him made another plastic retainer from that mold? And then maybe get a discount?
I lost my retainer and I got new ones from another dentist but with this retainer my teeth doesn't fit with the other teeth and it's not precisely shaped aleykumselam my teeth. When I told my dentist that it didn't close good enough he didn't care. Is it a problem? I only wear the upper retainer
Hi im a dental assistant and learning new things from your videos...please..what cutting bur are you using? Thanks
I wonder y my retainer had so much extra ..so difficult to remove. What can i do please advice how to cut it
Hi Alzina, if possible go back to the dentist that made it for adjustment. It should be done at no charger.
Is there another way of melting the plastic that precise way? Had braces for 4years ,got them off and my retainers broke 6mnths ago,was caught up with things and couldn't go so my teeth shifted a bit. My dentist is asking me for 500$. I don't mind but I'm having a jaw surgery somewhere at the end of the year. I just need something to hold my teeth together while i wait. I already have the impression of my teeth. Plus I bought the clear plastic I just can't find a dentist who'll charge me for the use of a machine by plugging it. Lol is there another heating system that can be use?
Unfortunately you not only need heating you also need pressure to mold the plastic. I have a cheap Chinese machine that does apply the heat and uses vacuum to mold the heated plastic but is is not as accurate as pressure forming. The Chinese machine can be purchased through Ebay the details are eBay item number:182128430556 and it is called Dental Lab Vacuum Forming & Molding Former Thermoforming Material Machine JT-18. But you need square plastic blanks and you need to know how to operate it.
I just got my braces off last week and went to the ortho to make an extra retainer cost me $259 for extra upper, but I found this company that does it for more than half the price less. I wished I found them before, I could have had four made for the price I paid for the extra upper. :(
Here is there website: www.clearretain.com/
Hi Charlotte
Thanks for the link there are so many things that can go wrong with impressions, I would be dubious about getting this done, best bet is to find someone to take a digital scan of your teeth or better still get your orthodontic dentist to scan your teeth and provide you with the soft copy file. You could send to me and I could can get it printed and make the retainer for you, the first one will cost $150 AUD plus shipping, but after that I can make more retainers at a cost of $60 plus shipping for each retainer.
Thanks
Dr Maloney
My retainer snapped in half will the dentist still have a mound of my teeth it's only been 1 or 2 years I believe.and I didn't wear my retainer much I've been wearing them for the past 2 to 3 months so they have nearly came back to place.or can they take a mound of my current retainer.
My retainers broke so I got some new ones last week. It’s been a week and I’ve just realised my dentist cut my retainers and the top bit of the retainer is too low therefore the top of my tooth is covered with the retainer. Is this okay or would I need to go back? I’m so worried.
Hello I have a question. Is it normal for a dental clinic not to give their patients a retainer for 10 days after taking their braces off. Mine took 10 days and in that time my teeth shifted quite a lot, there’re literally gaps between my bottom front teeth and my retainers don’t even fit. What should i do?
Do you block out excessive undercuts in the model before making the retainer? My retainer was digging into my gums and causing blanching so I had my orthodontist re-do it and block out some of those areas but it still does this (although not as bad as before).
Is there a way to make the edges of the plastic retainers smoother after I’ve worn them? They rub against my tongue and it can be very bothersome
Before I got my braces off they did my register molds with the braces still on, is that what they usually do?
*Can you make an exact copy of an old one?*
Great tutorial thanks!
Thank you so much. Very informative
4:44 oh God I'm having Vietnam flashbacks😩😩
I have a retainer for applying fluoride gel that I also use for at-home bleaching. I am thinking about getting Invisalign (or equal clear aligners). Could I use the aligners for both these purposes and could I just keep the last aligner to use as a bleaching tray after the treatnent? Because by then obviously the tray/retainer I have now obviously won't fit anymore. Alternatively: The one I have now is made of a flexible thermoplast. Could I give it to someone to have it reformed to the new position of my teeth?
I just got my retainer today. It won't stay on the back teeth. What does that mean?
Thanks for sharing... tomorrow i will going to fabricate my first night guard
Would have been good to actually show us the final result!
thank you for so much detailed guide video!
🙏
How can I ordered that retainer maker?
What does this do? Is it designing for clear aligner treatments (clear orthodontic appliances)?
Have you ever broken one of the clay teeth models
Did this in college .Fun training
Interesting and What may I ask is your profession?
Do we have options for having clear retainers or a regular traditional retainer, I’m getting my top brackets off next month.
May I ask what type of material retainer you use and its thickness? TYIA!
What credentials does one need to make and sale these?
I have a mold of my teeth, is it possible to get a retainer made?
Wait omg I’ve used of those pressure machines before when I was like 11 for making a tray for my planter box lol.
I have a question. I just got my braces off yesterday and since my flight to my hometown was 3 hours after they told me they will post it instead. So I'm free of retainer since yesterday and today. The retainer probably would arrive a week or more. Would my teeth shift even slightest bit within those week? I'm scared because I'm loving my new smile.
Love ur video
I m dentist but found ur video really interesting
Is this the same process for making invisalign braces?
Hi, I recently lost my upper set of teeth retainer after only recently started wearing again after a few months of not. And right now my top front tooth is protruding out a little from the symmetrical circular shape. Can I request my dentist to adjust the model of my teeth to the symmetrical circular shape before hardening the model and fitting the retainer so that it can get back to its original position?
Or can I ask to make minor adjustments to the retainers like filing the front part to make it even out etc?
Thank you,
C.Y.
Your dentist should have a mold of your teeth when they were straightened perfectly. So he can make u that perfect mouthguard and you should b able to then straighten up that small tooth movement
how thick are those Zendura splints?
WOW THAT'S SOOOOOOO COOL!!!!!!!
Thanks for your video question 🙋♀️ what number blank did you used ?
Because the number I have try to used is to flimsy and when are you uploading more videos ?
How come something simple to make is so expensive
Which type of dental stone did you use?
Wich is better, plastic or traditional?
any tips for making retainers when there is already an lingual wire fixed? or is it all the same?
Hi Luisana. I would use block-out material to remove undercuts on the wire and composite bonding pads, plus use block-out material to create an approximately 0.25 mm space over the wire and bonding pads. The objective is to not allow the removable retainer material to exert any direct force on the wire or bonding pads.
I hope that helps!
im getting my retainers tomorrow!
Do you have to get new impressions done every time you need a new retainer? Thanks
Great question; when using stone models, the answer is yes, as the model breaks when taking the retainer off the model. However, I use the process now to get a digital impression and save it to the patient file. When my patient needs a new retainer, I send the digital model to be printed and then make the replacement retainer on the printed model. The fantastic news is, the printed model does not break when removing the newly formed retainer, so I can make many retainers using a printed model.
I do the scans at no additional charge to the patient. I then charge $60 to get the model printed and $60 to make a retainer using the printed model.
I hope that helps with your inquiry.
Regards, Denver
@@FastOrthodontics thank you so much! 😁
can we have it colored so it would look like a mouthguard?
Why do these cost so darn much?
Can I ask why it does cost sooo much? Is it just mostly the offset for the price of the machine? All I have is a physical mold of my teeth and no extra $200+.
The cost is a function of cost recovery plus profit. The cost of running a average dental practice would be a min of around $250-$300 per hour before the dentist starts to take money home for his/her family.
I just paid 20 usd aproxx to get the clear retainers.. in India
@@andrearozario8075 Well snap. Maybe I should mail them my molds. :I
@@JCV666 for a 8 months treatment I paid around 263 usd .. and paid seprate 20 odd usd for the retainers. . . You could mail them your mould. I'm going to visit my dentist Tomorrow. Il check if he's hesitant to give me a mould . .
But the dentist never shares where he gets the retainer made from ..
That's someone I need to find out on my own..
I'm sure it's even cheaper to directly contact the guy..
Do orthodontic assistants do this as well?
Thanks sir I need training for 3 months can you help me sir I am from Morocco, I graduated in 2008 and until now I have not been able to obtain training or work in my field of specialization
Hi Hanane, my practice is in Albury NSW, if you live in this town I may be able to help you?
How are the metal retainers made
This looks so easy but ridiculously expensive
Is there away you can make me an invisible retainer with fangs?
does that plastic have power to retain our teeth i doubt though
Thanks ,very helpful
is that plastic than isn't its harmful for health
I got amazed
Is this plastic bad for body??
Hi Soni, there are no known human toxicity issues with this material. Thanks for asking its a great question. Regards Dr Denver Maloney
The process is so simple yet why do plastic retainers cost like 300 dollars ???
And my orthodontist charges me $150 for each of these??!?!
How much do these cost?
Yeah unfortunately these flimsy things are 300$ and break after 5 to 7 months. Definitely not worth it. The NBA players have these type of mouth guard but they are 3 times thicker and stronger and last over 2 yrs if u use them at night. Where do we order those mouthguards from?
Awesome vidddd
What's the thickness ?
So interesting! Who actually does the work to create the retainer? Is it the orthodontist himself or do the assistants do it?
Assistants 100%
Wow I never knew being a dentist/orthodontist is this hard lmao
I used the 0.76 mm blanks.
Prefect work! I have a question! I am looking for disc when you cut i-retainer! Could I know disc name or which place you get it?
The disc is called a wheel-saw; I buy them from Bourke Dental, located in Bentleigh, Victoria, Australia.
I hope that helps. When I get back to the practice later today, I will look at the packaging and tell you the actual brand.
Cheers, Denver
@@FastOrthodontics Thank you for your reply!
So they just essentially vaccum form you retainers
I wonder if this is how my orthodontist will make my essix retainers when I get my braces off in 2 weeks and 2 days
مع ان الفيديو تصويره مخيس وواضح انهم ما اهتموا للتصوير، الا ان الفيديو ممتع مره
Can You Please Make Me A Bottom One?😭I Lost Mine Yesterday
I’m getting my braces off sooner then my orthodontist originally planned and I just wanted to learn how they make retainers
Thank u for this vid
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Is it just me or why is he in such a hurry lol
Tell me how tf am I even supposed to do this at home I don’t even know what tf I’m doin so why da hell im gone do it at home I ain’t even got the equipment😂😂😂
You would get fussed at if you were in my lab. Hahahaha Always always rinse the trimmer immediately after every use.
Why don’t you sterilize?
so youre telling me it’s 200$ for plastic?
So, this is how they make invisalign too?
Yes
Cost?
It’s embarrassing that these cost more than $100 a piece.
Just got my retainers a week ago there on my teeth right now
Interesting!