SAR USA P8L Shooting Impressions

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @GBGuns
    @GBGuns  3 года назад +2

    Article: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/sar-usa-p8l

    • @matthewcaughey8898
      @matthewcaughey8898 3 года назад

      A few years back I saw they had a really nice HK USP clone. It was to my own damn fault I didn’t buy it. At the time they were doing the Canik thing and giving you a holster and a mag carrier. Problem was I didn’t know what mags would fit and I didn’t want to be stuck with just 2 ( personal rule is a minimum of 3 ). I also passed on their K2 which I liked but it was chambered in .45ACP and I was staying exclusively with 9mm at the time. Didn’t buy it cause of the mag issue as well ( gun only gave you 1 and I had no idea what fit it only to find out years later it took para ordnance P15 mags (( again not made either now )) ) I’ve been watching Turk made guns do well and still kinda regret selling my original TP9 when I was really hard up for cash in 2018. As of late I’ve been trying to make careful buying choices for guns. I’m not buying anything that I can’t get what I paid at least. I did buy a GX4 however I’ve had no issues chambering a bullet, and I’ve still got my old now laser equipped sig P938 serving as standby. The GX4 and 938 are still my go to guns

    • @todspencer8904
      @todspencer8904 3 года назад

      @@matthewcaughey8898 lolol lol LLC lol

    • @todspencer8904
      @todspencer8904 3 года назад

      @@matthewcaughey8898 p

    • @todspencer8904
      @todspencer8904 3 года назад

      Pp0pl lol plll

    • @kennysanchez3806
      @kennysanchez3806 3 года назад

      Hey does anyone know were in can find a holster for a sar B6C?

  • @winnon992
    @winnon992 9 месяцев назад +5

    I own two Steel framed Sarsilmaz pistols. A 2000 SS and a K 45-45 ACP. They’re both extremely well made pistols. I really like the rubber grips. You can’t find any machining marks anywhere on either one. They give my CZ pistols a good run for the money I know that !

  • @egzonsalihu1451
    @egzonsalihu1451 Год назад +3

    Sarsilmaz P8L is phenomenal pistol. I love it.

  • @gtoexpress8111
    @gtoexpress8111 3 года назад +16

    I got the P8S version i polished the internals and m-carbo spring kit they turned the tool from good to great - This is a beast of a tool !!!

    • @WheeledandWellArmed
      @WheeledandWellArmed 3 года назад +3

      @GTO Express I also want the P8S in SS. Spring kit, polish and Tanfoglio bolo disconnector for a better reset.

    • @37gdog
      @37gdog 2 года назад

      Any problems with light primer strikes?

  • @larry1754
    @larry1754 3 года назад +7

    I just want to say I love your opening disclaimer scroll! Not sure how much weight it would carry in a courtroom, but you seem to have covered the bases adequately! That being said, I love Turkish guns... Sarsilmaz, Canik, Tristar (made by Canik), Girsan, representatives of all are in my gun collection. As for Sarsilmaz, to date I have their CM9 Gen 2, B6C, and a newly purchased P8L. All are rock solid! Sarsilmaz has been making firearms since 1880, they do know what they are doing! :)

    • @37gdog
      @37gdog 2 года назад

      I have the P8S, do you know what trigger spring, if any, fit this gun? I'm wondering about CZ of Tanfoglio kits but I can't seem to verify that.

  • @paulthompson4367
    @paulthompson4367 3 года назад +6

    It was GBGuns that first alerted me to the eastern import (Turkish) pistols coming into the NA market. (I live in Canada) Based on your positive reviews I took a chance on one. It was a P8L exactly like this one, only all black. We shot it for comparison with a CZ-SP-02 just for kicks and were surprised how well the P8L performed. No, it's no SP-02, but it ran like a champ. From 2017 to 2021 it has never hiccuped. A very reliable (high-value to boot) pleasant range gun. Thanks Graham!

  • @johndeere1951a
    @johndeere1951a 3 года назад +12

    1955 Buick Roadmaster (portholes) meets CZ 75 pre B (rubber contour grips)🤣
    Graham, for someone who seems to not care for CZ you certainly like the bevel around the trigger, the heft of the metal chassis and the classic 75 contoured grip in your hand. Teya also liked the vintage rubber CZ grips and heft. Those Czecho's were good engineers 🇨🇿👍
    Good shooting

    • @GBGuns
      @GBGuns  3 года назад +5

      Thanks, and I admire classic CZ designs, they did some creative stuff during the cold war in order to comply with, but be different from the Soviets. CZ of today however is not really the same company.

  • @noahpaul7491
    @noahpaul7491 3 года назад +20

    After having the SAR 9 and now the P8L I’m convinced they will be around for a while! Great pistols, great price.

    • @GBGuns
      @GBGuns  3 года назад +8

      Sarsilmaz has been around over 100 years!

    • @noahpaul7491
      @noahpaul7491 3 года назад +3

      @@GBGuns awesome! I meant in my collection 😂 such quality firearms! I’m in love’

    • @wesleycristman3278
      @wesleycristman3278 2 года назад +3

      How’s the trigger on that P8L? I got the SAR9 and love it!

    • @Iflew727
      @Iflew727 10 месяцев назад +1

      As GBGuns mentioned, they have been around for a good while (144 years actually), and are NATO approved, so yes, they will probably be around for a while.

  • @vincentsullivan9120
    @vincentsullivan9120 2 года назад +4

    I bought my p8L a month ago, I love this gun!

  • @FernandoChaves
    @FernandoChaves 3 года назад +6

    Thank you again for the video! After putting a couple hundred more rounds through mine today I came back to watch this again. Seeing Graham making one ragged hole in the accuracy test, as well as the good results in the trigger control test are consistent with my experience. I think the porting may more than make up for the longer dust cover and longer rails of other SAR models that are more " competition" oriented. I am not sure of that, but I do think this pistol performs beyond the price range. A little trigger work would make is spectacular. The trigger is satisfactory, but definitely could be crisper. I may look into some aftermarket goodies in the trigger department for this, as well as sights. I ended up blacking out the rear sight dots with a sharpie today. Even with my very small hands the grips are great, but I am tempted to try some thin Lok grips anyway. This pistol is more than just a fun gun, it is a serious shooter. EDIT: Teya said it is sexy. Sexy? LOL! Yes it is. The way a 70's Trans Am is sexy with all the graphics. This thing is "showy", very "look at me" with all that is going on with the slide cuts and ports. If the stainless were polished it would be too much, like a cheap hooker with too much makeup. It's sexy more like Frederick's of Hollywood than Victoria's Secret. LOL! The cool thing is that it definitely backs up the flashy looks with performance. If Teya says a pistol is sexy, I gotta take that to the bank.

    • @msfreeman1567
      @msfreeman1567 3 года назад +1

      I love the references, you're not wrong lol it instantly made me think Iroc Z 🤣

  • @shootersresourcechannel642
    @shootersresourcechannel642 3 года назад +4

    I’ve been eyeing these in my local shops, but I haven’t shot one yet. Great job y’all! Keep it up.

  • @Abacab965
    @Abacab965 3 года назад +5

    What a handsome pistol !

  • @curtdorman9213
    @curtdorman9213 11 месяцев назад +2

    my p8l is my favorite pistol to shoot.

  • @user-jetmachinist
    @user-jetmachinist 3 года назад +5

    Very impressive gun , you and Miss Teya have good groupings , close to being a flat shooter and very little recoil . I agree when you said about the purpose of that gun , heavy , no accesory rails but it will serve a purpose. Thanks for the review

  • @Reloadingfromthehotpot
    @Reloadingfromthehotpot 3 года назад +2

    Most excellent review, I am beginning to really look at and like the Sar series of hole punchers.

  • @FernandoChaves
    @FernandoChaves 3 года назад +3

    Sold. Ordered one. Got to love a fun gun.

    • @FernandoChaves
      @FernandoChaves 3 года назад +1

      Have it. Shot it. VERY happy with it! Great grips, and I have small hands. All over the forums people say there are no magazines to be found. I contacted SAR and they have 10, 17, and 21 round mags in stock. And I was told they will have accessories available on their web site in a few weeks.

  • @jesseboutdoors
    @jesseboutdoors 3 года назад +6

    It is definitely a great looking gun.

  • @DMRedd08
    @DMRedd08 3 года назад +2

    Look into the Sar k12 sport. It's their version on a cz shadow

  • @protoculture289
    @protoculture289 3 года назад +18

    The Turks are killing it with their high quality low price handguns

  • @backwoodsmaineiac8897
    @backwoodsmaineiac8897 3 года назад +2

    Southpaw army unite! Love my cm9 gen 2, but now your reinforcing my want for a sar p8s.

    • @b13nissan
      @b13nissan 2 года назад

      I would like p8l to add to collection, i have b6, sar9x, cm9 gen2

  • @myronriggs9613
    @myronriggs9613 3 года назад +1

    Great review 😁I really liked the banter and explaining you both provided… great job

  • @westtexas3041
    @westtexas3041 3 года назад +1

    Another great video. I love ‘What’s for dinner’ and the reflections.

    • @GBGuns
      @GBGuns  3 года назад

      Thank you!

  • @katanapr3
    @katanapr3 3 года назад +3

    Excellent video! I have the P8S and love that little thing. I can fit 17 rounds fairly easy in the magazines, also the internals are Tanfoglio compatible. I would also swap the front sight but neither CZ nor Tanfoglio sights would fit without mayor fitting.

    • @GBGuns
      @GBGuns  3 года назад

      Good to know about the sights!

    • @puzer1
      @puzer1 7 месяцев назад

      ...cz sights will fit...shave some off the sides and back...the shape is the same...

  • @hagendas2727
    @hagendas2727 2 года назад +1

    Props to the honesty on second guessing herself on the spinner plate. You could tell she was just a fraction behind on those few misses but probably would have hit if the timing was correct. We can all always improve.

  • @VEGABRICCS
    @VEGABRICCS 3 года назад +4

    For some odd reason, I didn't mind the audio glitch when displaying the ammo idk👍

  • @keithmcconnell3165
    @keithmcconnell3165 3 года назад +4

    As I miss rapidly lol.
    Like metal guns, thank you. Good video

    • @GBGuns
      @GBGuns  3 года назад +3

      Yeah, hitting isn't the intent of that section, but something I attempt to do. We could just be like other channels and use larger targets, but steel is heavy.

    • @johndeere1951a
      @johndeere1951a 3 года назад +1

      .... 🎶🎵🎶.. he's my brother"

  • @duMaurier15
    @duMaurier15 3 года назад +2

    how come they dont make many optic ready versions of hammer-fired handguns? Do optics and hammer-fired handguns not make a good combination? Im shopping for a hammer-firing gun possibly the 1911 or someting like the p8L or PX-9 but want to place an optic on it.

  • @PaulJersey
    @PaulJersey 3 года назад +1

    I believe that CZ stop making the CZ75B stainless model. This looks to be a more competition style version of it?

  • @peterk6982
    @peterk6982 3 года назад +1

    Nice presentation good job !
    I don't know if the vent port do any thing
    an my feel snappy maybe is just me and my little hands 😂

  • @sycodad4483
    @sycodad4483 3 года назад +1

    17 rounds if you use a loader or have a prosthetic thumb. I think the mag spring will ease up. Leave the mags loaded for a while.

  • @edhuber3557
    @edhuber3557 2 года назад

    I'd wonder if front-of-slide ports benefit with muzzle flip (& slight weight reduction) are overbalanced by long-term stress concentration (for cracks) & more tendency to dirt-up.

  • @plantguy100
    @plantguy100 Год назад

    Graham, the P8 comes in both a Long and Short version, whereas they only make the Sar 2000 in a long version. Do you really think the ports and side cuts make a difference in practice? Interestingly, Sar shows the weight on the P8S, P8L and the 2000 as 35.8 oz, 37.9 oz and 35.6oz, which puzzles me a bit. The P8S is perhaps more appropriate in size for carry, though not in weight. These all steel firearms appeal quite a bit, but as you've said, will they be anything more than a collector piece for the range? I also wonder if after 100 rounds or so, the weight will make range sessions unenjoyable. That's how I feel about 1911s. I had an initial negative reaction to "polymer" firearms, though I've definitely come around. As a side note, I tried out a rented CZ-75 SP-01 today at the range and was surprised to find it has a decocker, but no safety. I was also surprised it was never in double action unless I used the decocker. I definitely like the trigger on the CZ-75 better than the slide trigger on a 1911, but I cannot say I found the CZ-75 trigger to be a revelation of any sort. Just me?

  • @Icecream-edible
    @Icecream-edible 3 года назад +2

    Pretty slick

  • @ratagris21
    @ratagris21 3 года назад +2

    Great looking pistol. Excellent shooting and with some tweeking and upgrades if need be you're good to go. ♠️🎩☯️

  • @skiphayes1795
    @skiphayes1795 2 года назад

    I have this gun and the grip feels great and the trigger equals my Beretta 92FS. My only complaint, at least on the one I have , is having to adjust the sight for both side to side and elevation. Other than that great gun. I've used Braser ammo and even Winchester white box along with Federal. All shot just great.

    • @zagortenay33
      @zagortenay33 Год назад

      "having to adjust the sight for both side to side and elevation." They generally come uncalibrated out of the box. I wonder why it is so hard to adjust that in the factory.

  • @t.k.morris
    @t.k.morris 3 года назад +1

    I am interested in this SAR P8L but also would like to ask, what other hammer fired pistol should I consider under $500 to purchase?

  • @rparker1562
    @rparker1562 2 года назад

    just a heads up. SARUSA wont warranty my 2 week old K245. THAT the lock up is so off it cant be sigthed in

  • @kyanderson2461
    @kyanderson2461 3 года назад +1

    great work ! thank you.

  • @RH2957
    @RH2957 2 года назад +1

    What type of ammo is recommended, that won't jam?

  • @justinlance4174
    @justinlance4174 3 года назад

    I know what you mean about the trigger. I have an xd9 and i swear i can feel a shock go into my finger from the trigger. Is like a slap feeling. Thought it was just me. It might be trigger slap but i have never experienced it only with the xd.

    • @Rumpleskin
      @Rumpleskin 3 года назад

      Never had a xd or xdm or xds trigger slap. But I did have a Sar cz clone that hurt

  • @boss94ways51
    @boss94ways51 3 года назад

    Im still looking for the sar cm9 gen2 you did a review on i cant find one anywhere...i got the sar9...its like thats all thats out there...DID THEY STOP MAKING THE CM9 GEN2????

  • @mauricebrister6080
    @mauricebrister6080 2 года назад

    What's the difference between a Mega 2000 And that 1

  • @wilf6384
    @wilf6384 3 года назад +1

    I always enjoy your content here at GB and Tia is always a nice addition with her soft and "sexy" brand of humor. She said this gun and the ammo was sexy thus the joke :)

  • @kingofcapp
    @kingofcapp Год назад

    How did I know I would find a review on this channel? Thanks!

    • @GBGuns
      @GBGuns  Год назад

      Haha! If others haven't covered something, chances are we have. If others covered it, chances are we covered it before it was cool.

  • @DannyLay-l6z
    @DannyLay-l6z Год назад

    How much do the Sar a8 cost I would like to have one

    • @GBGuns
      @GBGuns  Год назад

      We don't sell firearms

  • @franknapolitano9144
    @franknapolitano9144 3 года назад +2

    If I add Battle Born Grease to the rails and fixed barrel on my HK P-7, I bet RUclips would consider that "illegal" action as : "Modifying the Gun to Operate Faster "

  • @hagendas2727
    @hagendas2727 2 года назад

    Does this gun have an upgrade trigger option? Only downfall on the Sar b6p I had years ago was I couldn't find any upgrades for it.

    • @GBGuns
      @GBGuns  2 года назад

      Did you need upgrades?

    • @hagendas2727
      @hagendas2727 2 года назад

      @@GBGuns unfortunately I don't own the b6p anymore, but I was looking at the p8l this morning and was curious because of the issues with finding upgrades for my previous sar pistol.

    • @puzer1
      @puzer1 Год назад

      @@hagendas2727 it's a small frame Tanfoglio...

  • @jokerjalpa
    @jokerjalpa 3 года назад

    I looking for holster for SAR USA P8L anybody know were i can find one?

    • @RH2957
      @RH2957 2 года назад

      ebay, I just bought one

  • @sourjoraichowdhury9350
    @sourjoraichowdhury9350 3 года назад +2

    Turkish cz-75

  • @urfatdemirbas5632
    @urfatdemirbas5632 2 года назад

    🙏🏼

  • @anthonycarabajal7575
    @anthonycarabajal7575 3 года назад +1

    You didn't miss anything all I heard was ding ding ding ding ding ding ding ding😜😜😜😜😜

  • @karapusat4002
    @karapusat4002 3 года назад +2

    🦅🔫🦅

  • @AkrimalJukuy-x7z
    @AkrimalJukuy-x7z Год назад

    Magkano kaya sar usa

  • @sammyprestwood3182
    @sammyprestwood3182 3 года назад +2

    Sar needs to put a decocker on those guns they also need to build them where you can carry them with the hammer down without worrying about blowing your foot off

    • @bjhall3394
      @bjhall3394 Год назад +1

      Or people could be safe and smart with their guns

    • @puzer1
      @puzer1 7 месяцев назад +1

      ...if you can't figure out that these are carried half cocked you probably shouldn't carry it...

  • @someguy936
    @someguy936 3 года назад

    Looks like a redesigned 1911 to me

  • @popsncracks9108
    @popsncracks9108 3 года назад +1

    steal gun for 550bucks

  • @WV591
    @WV591 Год назад

    too bad impossible to find at a reasonable price

    • @puzer1
      @puzer1 Год назад +1

      ...a welldone stainless CZ75/Tanfoglio clone for under $450 is not reasonable?...you can buy the black version for $330 if you can't swing 4 bills for stainless...

  • @kimballscarr
    @kimballscarr 3 года назад +1

    Proper gun and nice video presentation... see all metal is not bad. Sort of sucky Graham would need a safety and slide conversion kit converting to a CZ85 configuration. I think the CZ parts will fit. But you forgot two important aspects: (1) Can you fire it by pressing on the trigger finger while on safe and round in chamber, cocked and locked, and only using the safety to fire the pistol, and (2) How far can you push back the slide and still have it fire... for contact firing on the target? Maybe be best to try without a round in the chamber. My CZs will "safety fire" if the trigger is pulled and the safety is then disengaged to fire the pistol while keeping pressure on the trigger. And, will fire with the slide held back to the disassembly marks!

    • @GBGuns
      @GBGuns  3 года назад +2

      Good ol' Soviet-era "safety"!

    • @kimballscarr
      @kimballscarr 3 года назад

      @@GBGuns Actually some Polish gun had the same feature and it proved handy in WW2.
      I tried to post in your blog on Teya's keeping warm article, thing but do not have membership in FB or the other site like. So please pass this on...
      Teya,
      It's in the breathing. I found out this myself that if one rapidly breathed deeply in, you he or she could warm themselves up. Wearing too light of cloths for the conditions and being caught out, I found my body did this. When I was going to university seeking a degree in physical anthropology, now called bio-anthropology or evolutionary anthropology I can remember most primitive peoples have this trait. But we did not fully understand the mechanism despite that field being considered a Pre-Med degree. Years later I found some things on RUclips... and Wim Hof a Dutch guy that that became upset, and suicidal after his wife's death. As apparently he tried to kill himself by being caught out in the cold (story from his son). No matter here are some links those words Wim Hof is talking about the cold ruclips.net/video/IU1WqemH1LA/видео.html , and ruclips.net/video/woxjutWVuj4/видео.html . What it is... the stimulation of the autonomic nervous system.
      How it works... luckily here is a very good explanation. Here are a couple videos bio-physically explaining the training. Physical or Bio-Anthropology is the field of study of this, and secondarily sports medicine. First it’s true you can do impossible feats like running a marathon or being able to do that in an extreme environment after learning the Wim Hot breathing method and a little of the cold training. First bio-physical explaining, ruclips.net/video/EWHRumILOOk/видео.html the explanation is exactly what your body will naturally do in extreme stress such as exercising in extreme cold in a life or death struggle... such as being badly injured, you will do the same breathing and hold and then exhale at a certain point. This is another video .... explaining the breathing a little better... ruclips.net/video/OpTG02x6w5o/видео.html This is another video explaining breathing ruclips.net/video/wgwxn9mRpAY/видео.html . And, ruclips.net/video/mBqGS-vEIs0/видео.html .
      Hope this helps. I found the field of Anthropology very interesting but one cannot make a living of it unless you get a phD. So I went on to also do electrical engineering and physics which were of little practical value. I think you might also find this interesting also... same interviewer as a couple of the other videos, basically when Amber is explaining that is a typical bio-anthropologist way of looking at things. ruclips.net/video/YarHSFIUOeY/видео.html
      As to gun stuff your may find this interesting, ruclips.net/video/7qBo3KadNro/видео.html . I wrote a post on how it works but they took it down, here is the explanation... post... with footnotes of explanations from simplistic to more detailed. I suggest they be studied a little.
      Is it even patentable? I don't know the concept of using magnetism to dampen movement or even an electrical circuit courses.lumenlearning.com/physics/chapter/23-4-eddy-currents-and-magnetic-damping/
      What is it? It is a demonstration(1)(2) of a physical phenomenon of Lenz's law. Non-magnetic conductors have interesting interactions with magnets. What is going on is as the magnet moves in relation to the tube the combination of electromagnetic induction interaction of the conductor (tube), the magnetic field (magnet), and movement (interaction) between the two induce (electro-magnetic induction) eddy currents in the conductor tube, the eddy currents create another magnetic field that opposes the moving moving field producing what is called counter electro-magnetic force "EMF" to the original moving magnet(6). However, the eddy current circulation do produce heat(7 see first)(6) in the conductor (non-magnetic conductor). This electro-magnetic force produces a strong dampening force, that also levitates the object within the counter EMF opposing field (7).
      Now let's explain in terms of relativity(3) as that is the physics explanation that really goes with what is going on... and gets real interesting due to equivalence, and "Maxwell’s equations hold in all inertial frames and are the first equations of physics which are consistent with the laws of special relativity. Ultimately, it was by studying the Maxwell equations that Lorentz was able to determine the form of the Lorentz transformations which subsequently laid the foundation for Einstein’s vision of space and time."(4) When applied to a conductive non ferritic material tube like copper or aluminum in an external magnetic field (a magnet that does not use the copper or aluminum tube to create the external field, then: "This effect is (ultra)relativistic, being of order v2/c2, where v is the speed of the conductor and c is the speed of light in vacuum. While such relativistic effects are generally small for “ordinary” velocities, the eddy current density obeys J = σE, where the conductivity σ for good conductors approaches c2/v2 when measured in Gaussian units, such that eddy-current braking is a rare example of an important (ultra)relativistic correction at low velocities."(5) 

      Another interesting phenomena is the eddy currents are evenly distributed over the conductors surface (8 surface of the tube) but more importantly this is why the magnet is suspended evenly balanced in the center of the tube, or vice versa(6) magnet surrounding a conductor. This effectively is greatly increased inversely by the square of the distance or the gap between the magnet and conductive tube. Note this works for flat plates of conductive non-magnetic materials.
      (1) ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=magnets+and+copper+tube
      (2) ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=magnets+and+aluminum+tube
      (3) ruclips.net/video/XRr1kaXKBsU/видео.html (relativity)
      (4) www.damtp.cam.ac.uk/user/tong/em/el4.pdf (Electromagnetism and Relativity)
      (5) www.physics.princeton.edu/~mcdonald/examples/eddy.pdf
      (6) ruclips.net/video/l8PxXZoHTVU/видео.html (heat production with only magnets, conductor, and movement (provided by engine flywheel)
      (7) ruclips.net/video/8i2OVqWo9s0/видео.html (heat production creating the magnetic field from an electromagnet)
      (8) opentextbc.ca/universityphysicsv2openstax/chapter/conductors-in-electrostatic-equilibrium/