This has been a great night watching you and Tia talk and send rounds 🎯💯💯... looks like Grand Power has another super fan 💪‼️.... wanted to grab this one with the K100D but currently out of stock at global ordnance... added it to my wishlist 👌 ... thanks again Graham this is what RUclips is for
~We Firearm/Ammo Nerds enjoy watching you shoot. Growing up in Small Towns in the 50s & 60s, we didn't have all the different weapons or ammo available we have today. What you and the Mrs do is exciting. ~What is all the snap,crackle & pop at the end of the video? Rain? Sounds like big fat drops of rain.
I'll watch pretty much anything Stribog related. When I'm not shooting mine, I'll watch other people shoot theirs. What kind of sight are you using on the suppressed gun?
Is the newer Stribog the version with the single op rod or dual op rod on the bolt? Hoping the single op rod version runs those HPs as the one you demonstrated.
Re mags, I noticed MAC was loading the 30 round mags with 32 rounds. Maybe that contributed to some of his problems. Another possibility is that Grand Power may have put in stiffer springs on the most recent mags? When I first get any gun I always don't try to fill the mag right to the top until the mags get broken in a little. I noticed HIckok 45 says he does the same in several videos. No question that these Stribog mags would be better with metal lips but mine have been fine though the first 1200 rounds or so through my US gen2 gun. Also I noticed you can load the stribog mags with the round all the way to the back or you can load the round to the front with 2mm or whatever space behind the round. I don't know if that makes any difference or not. Many gun mags are this way and I always make sure the bullet is seated all the way to the back in the mag (on any gun). Re version of the gun, does the newer one in this video have the "2 rod" buffer setup or the 1 rod buffer setup? MAC's second video where the gun was running without any issues is a 2-rod version, while his first video where he was having issues was the new 1-rod version. Mine is a 2-rod and no issues so far (1200 rounds or so).
Hi Mike. You can now get Gen3 steel-lipped Stribog mags, from several sites. They sell out quick. Jury is still out re: reliability using them in Gen 1 or 2 Stribogs: I've tested them successfully with Blazer bulk target ammo, but VERY poor results when shooting (supposedly high quality) Sig 124gr. HP ammo. Good luck!
@@GBGuns I think MAC's Gen.2 gun was just a lemon. (He did a 2nd video w/ his Gen. 1. And the Gen 1 had no problems.) His Gen. 2 mags had issues with a full mag of syntec rounds.
@@GBGuns it's also indicative of a too strong recoil spring or using lighter powder loads. It's a complete system and could not just be magazine related
@@GBGuns meh....I shoot NATO ball and have zero issues with the same magazines....its weak ammo short stroking the bolt...I should also have mentioned the FTE results in a stove pipe
Graham Baates I’m assuming you have a dual rod and a single rod version? Any more issues with 1 vs the other regarding ftf or fte? I just bought a gen 2 and am now worried with regard to if I just bought something that isn’t going to work right... I haven’t shot it yet, so I suppose that will be the only way to tell.
I had terrible problems running Sig 124gr. HP ammo with steel-tipped mags through a Gen2 (blowback, non-reciprocating) Stribog. Led to gun damage, sending it into GO today for repairs. No problems when I ran the cheaper 115gr. bulk ammo through the same combo. I also had durability issues with the original poly mags: they would crack at the feed lips if not handled gently. Let me know which combinations have worked well for you.
@@GBGuns Hi Graham. My careful clearing of a few ugly stovepipes somehow led to the bolt catch spring being damaged. Leading in turn to a service ship back to G.O. for repair. I'm a pretty careful guy, I never drop mags to the ground, keep the guns clean, protect from scratches, etc. I purchased the Sig ammo at very high cost (>$1/rd), just to have some extra "quality" carry ammo in this shortage. My son reported that he thought it "messed up" in his nearly new CZ scorpion the week before, and was "acting weird" in his friend's FN pistol, so we were at the indoor range basically doing what you're doing in this video: cross-checking under sandbag conditions with same mag/different ammo. We had no problems with any other ammo, from cheap bulk, to Federal, to Magtech, to S/V, both 115 and 124 gr. My G19 shot the Sig ammo fine, but it's not a finicky gun. The Stribog is DEFINITELY a finicky gun IMO. Maybe my favorite to shoot, but seems to always have a mag or ammo issue. Some others on the internet have reported the same thing. I'm not giving up on it, but would love to have 2-3 consecutive range days with no malfunctions to build my confidence. For the time being, home invaders will have to settle for 00 Buckshot, served up hot from a very reliable Mossberg. BTW thanks for this video!
@@GBGuns THANKS, brother..... That explains it all. Thanks for your content too, I am a loyal watcher! Thank you for turning me onto Stribog. I got a gen 2 and an A3 after watching your videos! Can you review the Stribog with the drum magazine? I purchased one but haven't had the time to break it in. Thanks.
Why did Grand Power not use the rotating barrel lock up of their pistols rather than blow back??? That is a mystery. Why is there would be: a) less mass of the weapon b) less volume of the weapon c) less recoil transmitted d) significantly less powder fouling running suppressed Why I am concerned about mass and volume of the weapon is that thing is the size of an AR... so what is the advantage to something like the Extar? The Extar weighs 1/2 as much. The Extar has less recoil transmitted as well as better trigger. And, the Extar costs much less money, effectively 1/2 price with brace/stock At the end of the video... what is that sound popcorn?
@@p331083 Noting I can see. Perhaps the Extar might be better being effectively 1/2 the price, and having an excellent trigger pull compared to the Scorpion. Perhaps the style of the Scorpion is sexier, I don't know, as that is so important these days. As to any military use, all I can say is soldiers in the ranks have no say in the matter and use what they are issued.
Worth watching for that last round.... MMM yes that was quiet.
This has been a great night watching you and Tia talk and send rounds 🎯💯💯... looks like Grand Power has another super fan 💪‼️.... wanted to grab this one with the K100D but currently out of stock at global ordnance... added it to my wishlist 👌 ... thanks again Graham this is what RUclips is for
~We Firearm/Ammo Nerds enjoy watching you shoot. Growing up in Small Towns in the 50s & 60s, we didn't have all the different weapons or ammo available we have today. What you and the Mrs do is exciting.
~What is all the snap,crackle & pop at the end of the video? Rain? Sounds like big fat drops of rain.
It was starting to rain.
Liked and subscribed. Thank you for doing this video. Time to stock up on ammo with sales around the corner.
I'll watch pretty much anything Stribog related. When I'm not shooting mine, I'll watch other people shoot theirs. What kind of sight are you using on the suppressed gun?
Nikon Spur
love it thanks guys!!!!
Is the newer Stribog the version with the single op rod or dual op rod on the bolt? Hoping the single op rod version runs those HPs as the one you demonstrated.
Nice effort. Nice guns. 👍😎
Re mags, I noticed MAC was loading the 30 round mags with 32 rounds. Maybe that contributed to some of his problems. Another possibility is that Grand Power may have put in stiffer springs on the most recent mags? When I first get any gun I always don't try to fill the mag right to the top until the mags get broken in a little. I noticed HIckok 45 says he does the same in several videos. No question that these Stribog mags would be better with metal lips but mine have been fine though the first 1200 rounds or so through my US gen2 gun. Also I noticed you can load the stribog mags with the round all the way to the back or you can load the round to the front with 2mm or whatever space behind the round. I don't know if that makes any difference or not. Many gun mags are this way and I always make sure the bullet is seated all the way to the back in the mag (on any gun).
Re version of the gun, does the newer one in this video have the "2 rod" buffer setup or the 1 rod buffer setup? MAC's second video where the gun was running without any issues is a 2-rod version, while his first video where he was having issues was the new 1-rod version. Mine is a 2-rod and no issues so far (1200 rounds or so).
Hi Mike. You can now get Gen3 steel-lipped Stribog mags, from several sites. They sell out quick. Jury is still out re: reliability using them in Gen 1 or 2 Stribogs: I've tested them successfully with Blazer bulk target ammo, but VERY poor results when shooting (supposedly high quality) Sig 124gr. HP ammo. Good luck!
Should of had a full magazine loaded with fmj before the 3 testing loads to simulate a full mag spring tension.
We've done full mag testing and loading more that the three would have prevented bolt lock
Awesome !! Where to find and i need ammo .
The Military Arms Channel had issues with syntech ammo and magazine problems. But the Stribog is a cool little gun.
We tried three different types of Syntech in this video.
We tried three different types of Syntech in this video.
@@GBGuns I think MAC's Gen.2 gun was just a lemon. (He did a 2nd video w/ his Gen. 1. And the Gen 1 had no problems.) His Gen. 2 mags had issues with a full mag of syntec rounds.
Well, its good ta know there will be no failures in the last 3 rounds of the magazines😉. Mine happens in the first 3 to 4 rounds of a full mag. FTE
Yeah that's probably a upward spring pressure from the mag onto the bolt carrier slowing it down.
Exactly. That's a magazine issue. We tested load compatibility.
@@GBGuns it's also indicative of a too strong recoil spring or using lighter powder loads. It's a complete system and could not just be magazine related
@@GBGuns meh....I shoot NATO ball and have zero issues with the same magazines....its weak ammo short stroking the bolt...I should also have mentioned the FTE results in a stove pipe
Thanks!
since u have both if you had one to chose. stribog or fx9 ?
have you tried the psa gen4 ar9?
The FX9 if you like the AR style, Stribog for a gun intended to be a SMG. Have not tried the PSA
What is the recommended ammo from the manufacturer? I heard it was 124 grain NATO.
That's what they were designed around, but as you see in this videos with the A1 models it doesn't really matter.
I wonder if you load full mag and same problems like MAC
Let as know
I've done plenty of full-mag tests with these guns in other videos. All that tests is the magazine, not the gun.
Tim did a second video and the replacement gun ran everything he put through it with no malfunctions
@@GBGuns Not completely accurate. That gun he had was having issues unrelated to the mags.
Do you know when the A3s will be available?
I don't, but I've shot them and they're worth the wait!
Does the stribog support +P rounds?
i run 9mm nato thru mine which is essentially 9mm +p
How do y’all like the stribogs as a whole ?
Love em!
Graham Baates I’m assuming you have a dual rod and a single rod version? Any more issues with 1 vs the other regarding ftf or fte? I just bought a gen 2 and am now worried with regard to if I just bought something that isn’t going to work right... I haven’t shot it yet, so I suppose that will be the only way to tell.
Love the gun, but tons of magazine/ammo issues. Would love to use as primary HD gun, but not nearly reliable enough.
I have been finding that the WOLF ammo and the new steel-tipped Stribog mags don't work and play well together. Anybody else notice that?
The steel lacks the lubricate to move well in the magazine. It happens with some hi-cap mags and uncoated steel cases.
I had terrible problems running Sig 124gr. HP ammo with steel-tipped mags through a Gen2 (blowback, non-reciprocating) Stribog. Led to gun damage, sending it into GO today for repairs. No problems when I ran the cheaper 115gr. bulk ammo through the same combo. I also had durability issues with the original poly mags: they would crack at the feed lips if not handled gently. Let me know which combinations have worked well for you.
@@mikestevens2053 How did it lead to damage of the firearm?
@@GBGuns Hi Graham. My careful clearing of a few ugly stovepipes somehow led to the bolt catch spring being damaged. Leading in turn to a service ship back to G.O. for repair. I'm a pretty careful guy, I never drop mags to the ground, keep the guns clean, protect from scratches, etc. I purchased the Sig ammo at very high cost (>$1/rd), just to have some extra "quality" carry ammo in this shortage. My son reported that he thought it "messed up" in his nearly new CZ scorpion the week before, and was "acting weird" in his friend's FN pistol, so we were at the indoor range basically doing what you're doing in this video: cross-checking under sandbag conditions with same mag/different ammo. We had no problems with any other ammo, from cheap bulk, to Federal, to Magtech, to S/V, both 115 and 124 gr. My G19 shot the Sig ammo fine, but it's not a finicky gun. The Stribog is DEFINITELY a finicky gun IMO. Maybe my favorite to shoot, but seems to always have a mag or ammo issue. Some others on the internet have reported the same thing. I'm not giving up on it, but would love to have 2-3 consecutive range days with no malfunctions to build my confidence. For the time being, home invaders will have to settle for 00 Buckshot, served up hot from a very reliable Mossberg. BTW thanks for this video!
@@GBGuns THANKS, brother..... That explains it all. Thanks for your content too, I am a loyal watcher! Thank you for turning me onto Stribog. I got a gen 2 and an A3 after watching your videos! Can you review the Stribog with the drum magazine? I purchased one but haven't had the time to break it in. Thanks.
Didn't see any cheap shit like tula or aluminum...
We do that in our regular reviews.
Why did Grand Power not use the rotating barrel lock up of their pistols rather than blow back???
That is a mystery. Why is there would be:
a) less mass of the weapon
b) less volume of the weapon
c) less recoil transmitted
d) significantly less powder fouling running suppressed
Why I am concerned about mass and volume of the weapon is that thing is the size of an AR... so what is the advantage to something like the Extar? The Extar weighs 1/2 as much. The Extar has less recoil transmitted as well as better trigger. And, the Extar costs much less money, effectively 1/2 price with brace/stock
At the end of the video... what is that sound popcorn?
Thats like saying what does a Scorpion have over a Extar.
@@p331083 Noting I can see. Perhaps the Extar might be better being effectively 1/2 the price, and having an excellent trigger pull compared to the Scorpion. Perhaps the style of the Scorpion is sexier, I don't know, as that is so important these days. As to any military use, all I can say is soldiers in the ranks have no say in the matter and use what they are issued.