WE SOLVED HOW TONY STARK RETURNS AS DR DOOM in AVENGERS DOOMSDAY

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  • @djslav2510
    @djslav2510 Месяц назад +404

    Can't wait for Deadpool to comment on this

    • @Scotty2Hotty1122
      @Scotty2Hotty1122 Месяц назад +13

      “It was me deadpool, I shot youuu” lol Hulk Vs Wolverine

    • @thedashdriver3969
      @thedashdriver3969 Месяц назад +4

      I think there would NEVER be a Deadpool 4
      Even if Deadpool and Wolverine would be awesome
      Though Deadpool may cross-over to the MCU as a cameo and comment about Robert Iron Doom-ney Jr. In "Avengers: Secret Wars".

    • @t13tom13
      @t13tom13 Месяц назад +2

      Dont do me like Johnny

    • @cacti4324
      @cacti4324 Месяц назад +5

      @@thedashdriver3969you think Deadpool and Wolverine was the last Deadpool? I think you’re crazy. There were almost less than zero signs that that was the end of the series. The only possible thing is he could die in secret wars but if not they will definitely continue making Deadpool movies. In fact they literally spent the majority of the movie focused on the fact that Venessa wants him to keep saving the world and we know he isn’t joining the avengers at least not yet. Deadpool 4 is definitely happening. My guess is Deadpool 5 will be the last in like 6 years.

    • @IRONTIMOLIVER
      @IRONTIMOLIVER Месяц назад

      Deadpool’s comments might be the only good thing about this.

  • @memoirsofalegend5472
    @memoirsofalegend5472 Месяц назад +189

    RDJ as Tony Stark variant as Dr. Doom "I'm the dude, playing the dude, that's disguised as another dude"
    Hahahhahahah

    • @YoureAMean1
      @YoureAMean1 Месяц назад +2

      I laughed

    • @memoirsofalegend5472
      @memoirsofalegend5472 Месяц назад

      It originated from me tho 😘​@@Mary_Puppins

    • @EZIEKIEL26
      @EZIEKIEL26 Месяц назад

      Lmao.
      You stole this from me on a prior video. It’s ok, it’s belongs to everyone.
      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @thedashdriver3969
      @thedashdriver3969 Месяц назад +1

      Would be awesome if Dr. Doom is of African descent portrayed by Robert Downey Jr. in "Avengers: Doomsday".

    • @DeadAstronaut75
      @DeadAstronaut75 Месяц назад

      😂😂😂

  • @jlavin5129
    @jlavin5129 Месяц назад +94

    RDJ said he wanted to come back with a challenge not just showing up as another Tony variant. I think he’s actually a Doom from another universe most likely the FF universe and he will also play a Tony variant. Sounds amazing to me.

    • @Whiskey_Tengu
      @Whiskey_Tengu Месяц назад +17

      It's that. So many MCU fans also never read Jonathan Hickman's Secret Wars, that rebooted the 616 Universe after 75yrs of continuity. That was an epic story and an absolute love letter to Marvel Fans, which is what I expect this to be for MCU fans.
      It's poetry really. RDJ birthed the MCU and for him to be able to be the God at the end who says goodbye to it (this version)...is perfect.

    • @IceMetalPunk
      @IceMetalPunk Месяц назад +6

      That's why this is so perfect. He's got the body of a Tony variant, but as an actor, he's *playing* Victor von Doom. It works out perfectly for literally everyone, including RDJ.

    • @MrKbassett17
      @MrKbassett17 Месяц назад +1

      That's what I think aswell

    • @captaindeadpool1640
      @captaindeadpool1640 Месяц назад +1

      Different mask same task.

    • @jovelhamilton601
      @jovelhamilton601 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@MrKbassett17 somebody told me with him playing doom they might bring cruise in as iron man legion or something like that. That cruise was actually suppose to be on the luminati in multi verse of madness but they cut it out for this purpose. Don't know how true it is.

  • @rig-zag
    @rig-zag Месяц назад +74

    I've said it before, the best way to introduce Doom is to have Dr Strange recruit him from the Multiverse to stop Kang in either Dr Strange 3 or Avengers 5. Recast Kang or bring back Jonathan Majors just to have Doom obliterate him and give the villain a fitting ending, then have Doom steal kang's powers and tech, to become the true big bad of Secret Wars.

    • @dnevil2801
      @dnevil2801 Месяц назад +7

      This would have been incredible.

    • @AZsportshut
      @AZsportshut Месяц назад +7

      You mean the Beyonder… who should be played by Keaneau Reeves

    • @Immortal_Liberty
      @Immortal_Liberty Месяц назад +6

      Kang was fully stopped, did you not even watch Loki season 2? He was erased from being, go watch the show again. They refilmed the last 2 episodes of Season 2 and removed him as a threat fully. Loki got rid of him by taking the timelines and leaving free will in tact. You seem clueless, Kang is gone.

    • @kristopherrobin
      @kristopherrobin Месяц назад +5

      @@Immortal_Liberty daddy chill

    • @mr.r.tokens9145
      @mr.r.tokens9145 Месяц назад +1

      Your prediction is a good one!!!!

  • @TyMurphy-oj6sd
    @TyMurphy-oj6sd Месяц назад +6

    I definitely think Tony is a doctor doom variant. In the Loki tv show, Mobius told a story about a variant that fits the description of doctor doom, but when they tried to prune the variant, it was an 8 year old boy. The hunter stalled and the 8 year old boy was "taken care of" by other hunters but I think he escaped using a tempad. Now he can travel through time and dimensions.

  • @Scotty2Hotty1122
    @Scotty2Hotty1122 Месяц назад +88

    Between Kang, doom, Beyonder, reed richards, and Tony stark it’s like a battle of “first” lol

    • @Aerems
      @Aerems Месяц назад +3

      Ive been trying to figure out how to articulate this haha

    • @Fincityfresh
      @Fincityfresh Месяц назад

      Then galactic eats them all

    • @rain5823
      @rain5823 Месяц назад

      @@Fincityfresh beyonder is stronger then doom will absorb galactus power and beyonder

    • @cacti4324
      @cacti4324 Месяц назад

      @@rain5823doom will not absorb galactus’s power. He will simply just absorb Prime Kang’s power who will also be taking the role of the Beyonder. There is no way they are going to introduce the beyonder this point. That would be beyond stupid. There’s tons of theories about how secret wars and doomsday will work and they make sense.

    • @cacti4324
      @cacti4324 Месяц назад

      @@rain5823pun intended btw 😉

  • @xxlaumic
    @xxlaumic Месяц назад +239

    Next Chris Evans as Magneto! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @kyloren1014
      @kyloren1014 Месяц назад +1

      That kinda cool 😎

    • @KiddZoo
      @KiddZoo Месяц назад +2

      😂😂😂😂

    • @Reoxys
      @Reoxys Месяц назад +4

      Jessica "Sue Storm" Alba is now trying to get into the MCU. I'm not making this up!

    • @williamj2460
      @williamj2460 Месяц назад +2

      Ikr 😂😅 Westley snipes as blade in the mcu

    • @anonymousd9750
      @anonymousd9750 Месяц назад +6

      Why are you acting like Chris Evans didn’t double dip already with Human Torch and was even recently brought back for D&W.

  • @Valiant_Hermes
    @Valiant_Hermes Месяц назад +136

    I think, given the color scheme of the Avengers Doomsday and Secret Wars logos, that RDJ not only plays Doom but somehow ends up back as Iron Man in Secret Wars.

    • @JordanDilla
      @JordanDilla Месяц назад +16

      Good spot. Like they say the devil is in the details.

    • @VinHussle
      @VinHussle Месяц назад +2

      🎯

    • @jorgej.cruzhernandez9247
      @jorgej.cruzhernandez9247 Месяц назад +7

      Infamous Iron-man

    • @VinHussle
      @VinHussle Месяц назад +3

      @@jorgej.cruzhernandez9247 never got my hands on the graphic novel. Might have too. Not mad at marvels pivot after the kang storyline feel apart.

    • @djbepo01
      @djbepo01 Месяц назад +3

      Same opinion. They before suprise us with stuff so maybe he come back as Iron Man to. Maybe in Doomsday put Tony Stark also eho knows

  • @SaBastian_DeKrabbe
    @SaBastian_DeKrabbe Месяц назад +9

    HOLY COW!!! My mind is absolutely BLOWN!
    Thank you Michael, your theories are always on point!

  • @Angela5213
    @Angela5213 Месяц назад +4

    also do not forget that r.d.j. himself said " different mask. same mission." now i think that is a major hint and clue right there.

  • @GrandAdmiralShanahan
    @GrandAdmiralShanahan Месяц назад +79

    I just imagine RDJ as Doom telling all the villains to kill the Beyonder so they can do whatever they want lol

    • @siddharthsharma780
      @siddharthsharma780 Месяц назад +1

      0:34 0:38 0:45 😂

    • @Z-A-C
      @Z-A-C Месяц назад +1

      @@GrandAdmiralShanahan on the contrary, don’t be surprised to see that Robert Downy is ALSO playing the Beyonder.

    • @Barrythebarnabas
      @Barrythebarnabas Месяц назад

      😂😂 that’s not even possible

  • @AnswerThisForMe
    @AnswerThisForMe Месяц назад +30

    1000% I think this has to do with who ACTUALLY receives the TVA manual next if it’s not Kang

    • @cacti4324
      @cacti4324 Месяц назад +3

      This is a really interesting theory that I haven’t seen anywhere else after searching for hours and hours lmao. Nice thinking. Could be possible.

    • @str8runs
      @str8runs Месяц назад +2

      Sick theory Whats the TVA manual btw?

    • @SteveMND
      @SteveMND Месяц назад +1

      @@str8runs Time Variance Authority, i.e., Marvel's "time/multiverse cops." Had a lot of high-tech engineering schematics in it; the TVA was introduced in the Loki Disney+ series, and is also a pretty key element in the new Deadpool movie.

    • @mccm333
      @mccm333 Месяц назад

      Yes. The original plot I think was that this loop has happened many times, but something was going to change with what Kang did this time by getting the manual. Now, they can let Doom find the TVA loop restarted and go from there

    • @ashleybanks-wm4cg
      @ashleybanks-wm4cg Месяц назад +1

      I wish they had just kept the TVA in Loki series It wasn't needed in Deadpool vs Wolverine it didn't make sense and this whole anchor being concept is stupid This isn't DC there is no anchor being

  • @growupgreg
    @growupgreg Месяц назад +33

    I love this move. It’s almost poetic to think that the greatest hero of the MCU, the one who started it all and sacrificed himself for the entire universe will also be the same face that brings the MCU its impending DOOM. That is exactly how I would play this if I were Marvel. Tony Stark of Earth 616 was special. He was the one who defeated Thanos and saved the universe with a snap of his fingers. Victor Von Doom from another Earth somewhere in the multiverse is also special but in a very different way. He will be the one who will begin plucking heroes from across the multiverse as incursions begin destroying entire universes one by one. He will save them all by relocating them to Battle World where he will rule as God Emperor Doom and Secret Wars will take place. The reason he looks like Tony Stark from Earth 616 is bc they are similar to what was referred to in Deadpool as an anchor being. Not exactly the same thing but they will be a being of great importance to the multiverse. Each with a purpose so strong that they are almost two sides of the same coin. Only Doom has his own agenda and wants to rule all. lol
    I mean I just came up with that in like 2 minutes so I’m sure Marvel will come up with an amazing story and make it all make sense. It’s the freaking multiverse, people can look like someone else from another universe. Johnny Storm in one universe looks exactly like Captain America in the MCU. lol We are talking about the Russo brothers and Stephen McFeely here. I trust between them they will figure out a way to make it work.

  • @Pairofducks
    @Pairofducks Месяц назад +3

    Can't wait for RDJ to play the villan. Such a good actor.

  • @jamesoneavatar8644
    @jamesoneavatar8644 Месяц назад +2

    I'm happy he's back. Will wait for the movies with anticipation

  • @anthonyufert8477
    @anthonyufert8477 Месяц назад +26

    He’s Victor Von Doom from the same universe set in the ‘60s that the new Fantastic Four is coming from. He just happens to look like our Tony Stark from the main MCU.

    • @HaydenHunda-Stan
      @HaydenHunda-Stan Месяц назад +2

      he could also wear prosthetics so he doesn't even look like Tony Stark

    • @mccm333
      @mccm333 Месяц назад

      He will be in F4

    • @sagethealchemist
      @sagethealchemist Месяц назад

      There's a comic line where Tony Stark and Victor Von Doom had their bodies switched

  • @trucoomccoo
    @trucoomccoo Месяц назад +23

    Ah yes, I too just watched the video that Comics Explained just posted covering this comic lol

    • @ndujamz
      @ndujamz Месяц назад +7

      Yeah, they watch Robs content and turned around and pretend to be experts. SHM.

    • @kyzerbatiste2645
      @kyzerbatiste2645 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@ndujamz Facts 😆😆

    • @appl3clap
      @appl3clap Месяц назад +1

      Exactly!

    • @floracash
      @floracash 16 дней назад

      Yup 😂

  • @michaelsilvas16
    @michaelsilvas16 Месяц назад +57

    I’m very optimistic! RDJ is a phenomenal actor, and I trust the Russo’s!

  • @tarantasaurus4177
    @tarantasaurus4177 Месяц назад +1

    I hope he is Doctor Doom in the FF timeline and when they travel to the main MCU everybody is like "Tony?" and Doom just laughs and laughs...

  • @james2346
    @james2346 Месяц назад +7

    After Jonathan Majors was fired as Kang, I thought RDJ could replace him as a new Kang variant.
    But this announcement about RDJ cast as MCU Dr.Doom feels similar to what I was thinking.
    This is exciting!

    • @peterfrknpan6674
      @peterfrknpan6674 Месяц назад

      The hell you did Let’s see a post of that

    • @Vexer70
      @Vexer70 Месяц назад +1

      @@peterfrknpan6674 bro who hurt u

    • @kevjd24
      @kevjd24 Месяц назад

      Yes, we demand that you immediately provide proof that you ever had that thought! Haha. Pete, chill brah.

    • @peterfrknpan6674
      @peterfrknpan6674 Месяц назад

      @@kevjd24 just laughable that these fan theory fan boys always say. “ I said that “. AFTER the fact

    • @kevjd24
      @kevjd24 Месяц назад +1

      @@peterfrknpan6674 Ahh ok I see. Thank you for explaining. Although I don’t agree, I do see your frustration. However, RDJ returning as a Kang Variant was not that unheard of. I believe there were RUclipsrs theorizing it. We were all longing for the Infinity War Marvel to return. Therefore, I surmise it is more likely than not that James did indeed produce the thought of RDJ as a Kang Variant.

  • @HustleWorldEnt1
    @HustleWorldEnt1 Месяц назад +18

    New mask, same task! 😎👍👑 Robert Doomey Jr.

  • @chicagogr81
    @chicagogr81 Месяц назад +8

    The Russo brothers said he was playing Victor Von Doom. If they lied to our faces and it's really a Tony Stark variant and they ruin Doom's perfect origin yet again, there is no hope.

    • @robinarmstrong685
      @robinarmstrong685 Месяц назад

      Not that I'm hoping for this, but it is worth pointing out that the Russo brothers have lied to our faces before in order to cover up plot points.

    • @Immortal_Liberty
      @Immortal_Liberty Месяц назад

      Doom took over his body. read the comics, later avengers saved him and his body got freed.

  • @soulslayer1421
    @soulslayer1421 Месяц назад +7

    I think this is a fantastic adaptation of a mix of the comics. Stark was highly entangled with Mr. Fantastic and dr doom and Kang. So using the MCU adaptation so far, I would definitely say this was a universe where he was born in the van doom family instead of stark and they came up in a similar billionaire way just more gluttonous. And doom was involved with the portal mr fantastic used in MVM and time travel. So having a doom version of stark that got to thrive would make an extraordinary amount of sense in the MCU as it is set up.

  • @allenc1701
    @allenc1701 Месяц назад +1

    So HYPED for Avengers: Doomsday & Avengers: Secret Wars!!!

  • @BowmansWorld
    @BowmansWorld Месяц назад +2

    They arent going to do a body swap that would require half the movie to explain who doom is and his backstory

  • @King9tails
    @King9tails Месяц назад +6

    I think it's a Tony Stark variant but he just had a terrible backstory and he could be adopted into Latveria, and he just is Victor Von Doom. In Secret Wars, we could see an evil Avengers where Captain America is Hydra, Black Widow is bad, Hulk is bad, etc. I think that would be cool and epic.

    • @farhanlabib-kc7ud
      @farhanlabib-kc7ud Месяц назад

      Yeah story just blank. But I don't know cause we know that Fantastic 4 was made by 3 times! And they really defeat Victor von doom 2 times one original another was remake. So is marvel gonna say that Victor survived the blast? Or its now like marvel gonna face same as fantastic 4 did. If it is than plot will be same and disappointing. 😅🤡

  • @moviesmusicandmore653
    @moviesmusicandmore653 Месяц назад +7

    They could use make up or something for Victor’s iconic, scarring, and maybe put in a joke about his likeness to Tony Stark.

    • @Kirkshelton
      @Kirkshelton Месяц назад

      lol reconstructive surgery gone wrong. "Good news, the surgery was successful and we removed your scars, bad news, you look just like Tony Stark"

    • @peterfrknpan6674
      @peterfrknpan6674 Месяц назад

      Worst take ever

  • @MediaManiac2000
    @MediaManiac2000 Месяц назад +5

    I was BLOWN AWAY when I first saw this announcement, and now.........I'm 100% all for it!! IF THEY DO IT RIGHT!!!!!!

  • @stephieca
    @stephieca 25 дней назад

    I was so confused about this choice for Dr. Doom but after watching this video and your explanation of the comic story line I now see what they are possibly doing. Thank you for this video.

  • @Yuzer5124
    @Yuzer5124 Месяц назад +2

    Til he’s 90😭
    -DP

  • @alejandromontes7132
    @alejandromontes7132 Месяц назад +5

    This was great. Thanks for the video

  • @JesseOptimist123
    @JesseOptimist123 Месяц назад +4

    RDJ is outstanding!! I’m optimistic to see him in MARVEL again. THANK YOU!!❤

  • @antoinemontmory
    @antoinemontmory Месяц назад +1

    I LOVE this story idea. I can't wait to see how the Directors will create it on screen.

  • @hadjihidalgo9692
    @hadjihidalgo9692 Месяц назад

    Stumbled upon this gem right after my class. Great stuff man. I believe RDJ will do VVD justice. looking forward to this film

  • @veeseee128
    @veeseee128 Месяц назад +4

    If Tony Stark comes back as Victor Von Doom I will never watch another MCU movie again! What a stupid idea since powering down the Hulk, Just Let DOOM BE DOOM!!!!

    • @lemuelchappell7773
      @lemuelchappell7773 Месяц назад +1

      I agree! That is lazy casting. You take perhaps the most popular Avenger and then make him 1 of the most hated villains in marvel universe is lazy and lame casting and directing and my opinion!

    • @veeseee128
      @veeseee128 Месяц назад +1

      @@lemuelchappell7773 They're still trying to make money off Robert Downey's star status. I would have preferred Henry Calvill as Doom.

    • @ryanlamers7494
      @ryanlamers7494 29 дней назад

      Stop lying you will watch every movie to come. lol

  • @danielzeller8694
    @danielzeller8694 Месяц назад +11

    I think this is awesome! The MCU has made a legendary career out making and running with the less obvious choices! If Feige and Co have made this decision, i support it and can't wait for it to play out!

    • @Battlegnome112
      @Battlegnome112 Месяц назад

      You trust the current leadership at Marvel/Disney?
      LOLOL

    • @danielzeller8694
      @danielzeller8694 Месяц назад

      @@Battlegnome112 absolutely. Have you been following the Disney/Marvel drama the last couple of years. One problem after another. I can't even imagine the pressure they have been under to correct course. Truly masterful leadership!

    • @Battlegnome112
      @Battlegnome112 Месяц назад

      @@danielzeller8694 I’ve watched Disney lose millions under terrible direction and leadership

    • @danielzeller8694
      @danielzeller8694 Месяц назад

      @@Battlegnome112 I'm curious to know whose leadership you're speaking of.

    • @BostonRobOHP
      @BostonRobOHP Месяц назад

      @@Battlegnome112​​⁠​⁠I trust RDJ and Feige to put something spectacular together

  • @gunthersmith76
    @gunthersmith76 Месяц назад +13

    Great to see RDJ back in Marvel.
    Went and saw Deadpool and Wolverine yesterday! It was AWESOME!!!!!

  • @cazmel2313
    @cazmel2313 Месяц назад +1

    After doing some research I kinda understand what they’re looking to do.

  • @ModestKnight1
    @ModestKnight1 Месяц назад +1

    Robert Downey Junior pulled a Lord Voldemort 😂❤🗿

  • @Rothbard_is_God8082
    @Rothbard_is_God8082 Месяц назад +7

    Well just remember that Doom never takes off his mask. It's entirely possible that RDJ is never recognized as Tony Stark.

    • @rayfriedrich5224
      @rayfriedrich5224 27 дней назад +1

      No way they wouldn't have bothered getting rdj back just to hide his face.

  • @equilibrium1950
    @equilibrium1950 Месяц назад +14

    I don’t think anyone has any objection about this announcement, but people are still wondering if Kang will be relevant in this saga?

    • @ghostrider2698
      @ghostrider2698 Месяц назад +5

      Sadly marvel scraped Kang for maybe next 10 to 15 years. They focusing on X-Men now. Mutants is officially a saga now they have Soo many X-Men movies to get out its gonna be like 20 yrs lol

    • @HonestJohn_01.19
      @HonestJohn_01.19 Месяц назад +2

      ​​@@ghostrider2698X-Men will definitiely be the MAIN focus for the first three phases post-Secret Wars. But there will also most certainly be other IP's thrown into the mix. Kevin Feige finally has the rights and/ or access to every Marvel character/ property. He's not going to wait another twenty years to get them all together properly for the first time.

    • @cacti4324
      @cacti4324 Месяц назад

      @@ghostrider2698that’s completely not true. Yes they sidestepped Kang for Doom but they are literally following through with the same avengers Secret Wars plan but with doom instead of Kang. They aren’t scrapping anything for the X-men. After Secret Wars the X-men will shine. Also most likely we will still see one more Kang appearance in the role of Kang Prime taking over for the comic book character the “Beyonder”.

    • @cacti4324
      @cacti4324 Месяц назад +1

      Many people are speculating that we will see Kang one last time in beginning of doomsday and I completely agree with the theory. The theory is that an unseen as of now Kang Prime will take the place as the all powerful being in the comics “The Beyonder”. Who Doom will destroy and steal the power of at the start of Doomsday. Setting up God Emperor Doom and Secret Wars. As in the Secret Wars build up comics it was “The Beyonder”/“Beyonders” who Doom stole the power of to become the big threat in Secret Wars.

  • @robertsigby4516
    @robertsigby4516 Месяц назад +19

    "You Either Die A Hero Or Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain." I believe Tony Stark died a hero but lived long enough to become the villain, so happy to see RDJ coming back to the MCU again and can't wait to see the movie as well

    • @dustinhettrich7572
      @dustinhettrich7572 Месяц назад +3

      Wow...that's the best I've seen yet. Good on you rembering that quote. Makes you wonder if at some point RDJ did in fact have plans to do this but only expedited due to the unfortunate Johnathan Majors issues. Perhaps RDJs plan was to come back as doom but not till after Kang dynasty but had to move forward quicker.

    • @dustinhettrich7572
      @dustinhettrich7572 Месяц назад +1

      And yes it's from batman but everyone gets their ideas from somewhere

    • @robertsigby4516
      @robertsigby4516 Месяц назад +1

      @@dustinhettrich7572 Yeah I know The Dark Knight, Harvey Dent but I believe this quote suits best for RDJ return back to the MCU after he made the comment "Different Mask but Same Task"😄

  • @garyhooper1609
    @garyhooper1609 Месяц назад +1

    Doom becomes a retcon and Stark’s dead body gets reanimated by a multiverse doom bot swarm and becomes it’s human avatar. Just like they did with the Galactus cloud

  • @loutzenheiser6081
    @loutzenheiser6081 Месяц назад

    Plenty of time ahead to theorise lollll RDJ as Doom is both insane and brilliant!

  • @jakedreher1777
    @jakedreher1777 Месяц назад +9

    He was announced as Victor Von Doom. There is no Ironman correlation.

  • @colincade7163
    @colincade7163 Месяц назад +8

    This is a varient Tony stark that became doctor doom from another universe

  • @rorythenerd
    @rorythenerd Месяц назад +12

    They literally said it's not Tony as Doom! it's RDJ as Victor Von Doom! It's not a Tony variant!!

    • @taahailyas915
      @taahailyas915 Месяц назад +1

      Technically it’s still doom if his mind is transferred to Tony

    • @lionface1364
      @lionface1364 Месяц назад

      He is playing Victor Von Doom....... a variant of Victor Von Doom.

    • @LLCobraCmndr
      @LLCobraCmndr Месяц назад +3

      Yeah it’s not like they ever lied before.

    • @cknick
      @cknick Месяц назад

      It’s RDJ playing Doom in a Stark variant’s body. It’s very obviously what they’re doing.

    • @lionface1364
      @lionface1364 Месяц назад

      @@cknick Agree.....maybe...regardless it's not the real Dr. Doom and that sucks

  • @EusebioBermea
    @EusebioBermea Месяц назад

    I’m here for it!
    I think it’s funny that some fans assume Marvel doesn’t know what they’re doing! 😂

  • @oldahe865
    @oldahe865 Месяц назад +1

    they could just cover RDJ face with prosthetic makeup so hes not recognizable even with mask off. Like The Penguin

  • @wyofett1412
    @wyofett1412 Месяц назад +4

    This is Victor Von Doom. This way RDJ is still honoring the sacrifice that Tony made.

  • @benjaminwelch1584
    @benjaminwelch1584 Месяц назад +6

    I'm so excited for this movie!!!

  • @donovanmartin7946
    @donovanmartin7946 Месяц назад +12

    It was confirmed he will be from the fantastic four universe per collider, I bet so many people have egg on their face after overthinking it and being upset about it

    • @intothezombieapocalypse
      @intothezombieapocalypse Месяц назад +2

      its funny..... collider never wrote that on the collider website. I also just checked their twitter and they literally never tweeted that. All they said was RDJ is back as Doom. Even their Website article states that he is doom in Doomsday and Secret Wars and never said anything about him showing up in F4. I just had this arguement with a guy on Facebook where he said this and I checked... collider never said it. IT was a random scooper twitter account that said it and then said collider said it... but i cant find where collider said it.

  • @user-wz8ip3tk7v
    @user-wz8ip3tk7v Месяц назад +1

    In fantastic four, Doctor Doom would permanently dream walk into tony stark when his universe gets destroyed. Hence, Doom now looks like stark, but it’s Victor.

  • @alexzuniga5208
    @alexzuniga5208 Месяц назад +1

    My only issue is that I wish it was a new actor. I know he is a talented actor, but I would like to see a new face for Doom

  • @xxPenjoxx
    @xxPenjoxx Месяц назад +15

    I'm all in for RDJ as Doom 💚

  • @SirsasthNigam.
    @SirsasthNigam. Месяц назад +3

    My headcannon is This Doom is from same Earth as MCU F4 and stole that Earth's Iron Man 's face after seeing him as Reed's rival
    MCU F4 Earth Iron Man - You took over my Industry?
    MCU F4 Earth Doom - No , i made it better All employees are satisfied
    and now i will have your face so no one know about this
    Someone on MCU F4 Earth : Why is Mr Stark into Green these days?

  • @Wikinomad
    @Wikinomad Месяц назад +8

    A variant of Tony with the middle name victor. Instead of coming out of the cave iron man, he comes out as victor/ doom. Solved the problem

    • @HonestJohn_01.19
      @HonestJohn_01.19 Месяц назад

      Kevin Fiege referring to Robert Downey Jr. as Victor Von Doom rather than, "Dr. Doom" could be a semantic misdirect, in order to keep fan speculation going, and prevent them from knowing that he's actually a variant of Tony Stark too soon.
      It's that simple.

    • @cacti4324
      @cacti4324 Месяц назад

      Would ruin the character completely. Your “solution” would be the entire problem. The multiversal part isn’t even the worst part. Having a version of Tony stark be doom isn’t THAT terrible. But he NEEDS to act like doom. One of the biggest most important characteristics of doom is that he like magneto had a rough childhood. He worked very insanely hard to get out and to make something of himself. He didn’t have daddy’s money or resources and that is why if it is a version of Tony stark it can not be anything close to Tony’s original origin story. If it is they will have officially ruined the character COMPLETELY. It would be the equivalent of a Captain America who was a bully. The exact opposite of everything the character stands for and is. At most this Doom could have Howard Stark or Tony’s mom as his parent in his universe who dies extremely early on and then he goes by the name Victor Von doom from then on and continues to have to work hard and make a name for himself.

    • @gizmotv9320
      @gizmotv9320 Месяц назад

      That's what I'm thinking as well

  • @aopaul
    @aopaul Месяц назад +1

    All this announcement did was remind me of the old days of comics and the bat- crazy things Marvel would do with characters. Now it's time to start counting all the crazy theories until this film comes out!!!

  • @wuigiman
    @wuigiman Месяц назад

    This is an incredible opportunity in Marvel studios!! Let’s go!

  • @austinrosado1938
    @austinrosado1938 Месяц назад +13

    Marvel should've of stuck with Kang and finished his story

  • @aimanhakim3304
    @aimanhakim3304 Месяц назад +5

    Or perhaps... He was always Dr. doom. Doom used infinity stone to change our memory of Tony stark as him from the start of the mcu... a perfect opportunity to recast iron man. I don't know, that's the best my brain can fantasize...

  • @scottvertelle286
    @scottvertelle286 Месяц назад +16

    I don't know how I feel about this. I was hoping he would be back as iron man. Why pay him big dollars to play doom? Plus aren't Reed and him supposed to be similar age? RDJ is 30 years older than Pedro Pascal. I can think of 10 people to play doom off the top of my head. I don't get it. I mean I am glad RDJ is back. I am really happy Doom is coming. But this doesn't make sense to me.

    • @SayAhh
      @SayAhh Месяц назад

      Wait to see if it was a good call.

    • @scottvertelle286
      @scottvertelle286 Месяц назад

      @SayAhh that's a long wait for me to have too adjust from RDJ as Iron man and then play Doom. It will be confusing in the mind. I am not even a big fan of variants. Especially variants that look like a other big character like iron man. So we won't have iron man for secret wars?

    • @hamsterrwrld6767
      @hamsterrwrld6767 Месяц назад +1

      Whos to say he ISN'T coming back as Tony as well? We literally know absolutely nothing and you people are quite literally jumping the gun, we have 2 whole years, plus if they decide to build him up between F4 and Doomsday/Secret Wars. Dude said it best, they wouldn't be doing this without a actual way forward, especially with the Russos involved?

    • @DarthZora
      @DarthZora Месяц назад +1

      Wait wait wait, lol
      Pedro Pascal is Reed Richards !?? Hahahaha no offense but they better turn up the volume or add subtitles when he talks .-.

    • @culchiefilms1791
      @culchiefilms1791 Месяц назад +3

      RDJ is 10 years older. Why lie? There will be a new Doom after the Multiverse Saga. What's the point of bringing in a new actor to play the role for only a year before the likely reboot

  • @stancartmankenny
    @stancartmankenny Месяц назад

    I have been suggesting this for a long time. Dr. Doom could simply be what would have happened to Tony if, say, his father decided to work with Hydra instead of the good guys, and so Hydra ended up winning ww2 and conquering the world. Or just more generally another world where Tony's upbringing was darker (and he happened to be named Victor), so that he became evil. But, I imagine, once crossing into the main timeline, and seeing his family, this will give him a touch of the feels, and make him start to slowly turn toward being good.

  • @yashabreslove8276
    @yashabreslove8276 Месяц назад

    It’s going to be interesting to see how they do this: either Doom is somehow connected to Tony Stark (the way Kang’s connected to Reed Richards perhaps), whether by multiversal variant or some other relation, or it’s the ultimate acting challenge for RDJ to differentiate himself and solidify a distinct role as a totally different character within a cinematic franchise that he iconically jumpstarted.

  • @KyleFromSouthPark1995
    @KyleFromSouthPark1995 Месяц назад +4

    RDJ is going to play Dr Doom with everything he has and it's going to be amazing

    • @Mary_Puppins
      @Mary_Puppins Месяц назад

      No, this casting sucks actually

    • @KyleFromSouthPark1995
      @KyleFromSouthPark1995 Месяц назад +3

      @@Mary_Puppins see you in theatres when the movies are released. Cry some more 😂

    • @Mary_Puppins
      @Mary_Puppins Месяц назад

      @@KyleFromSouthPark1995 I won't be there

    • @KyleFromSouthPark1995
      @KyleFromSouthPark1995 Месяц назад

      @@Mary_Puppins I'm sure 😂🤣

  • @gonz0r3turns93
    @gonz0r3turns93 Месяц назад +7

    Disney and Hollywood are so scared of the imminent failure they are not only refusing to try ne IPs, they are entirely reliant on the same few actors.

    • @timsloan9675
      @timsloan9675 Месяц назад +5

      Did you not see Deadpool?? Did that movie look scared? Lol quit crying watch something else let people have fun.

  • @uzi_2.057
    @uzi_2.057 Месяц назад +7

    SMH marvel marvel why just whyyyy

    • @Mary_Puppins
      @Mary_Puppins Месяц назад +2

      Bc everything after Endgame was a miss, No Way Home is just Sony properties nostalgia and Deadpool & Wolverine is 20th Century Fox nostalgia so those don't even count

    • @Rico_Carny
      @Rico_Carny Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Mary_PuppinsEverything after endgame a miss, completely wrong.

    • @jonathanmonkey9086
      @jonathanmonkey9086 Месяц назад +2

      @@Mary_PuppinsI wouldn’t say everything, we had the great story of gtg3 and Loki season 1 and 2, that’s about it, as well as Deadpool and Wolverine now

    • @Mary_Puppins
      @Mary_Puppins Месяц назад

      @@jonathanmonkey9086 James Gunn left the MCU and Gtg3 was the conclusion of a trilogy, so the MCU is still on a decline since there won't be another

    • @jonathanmonkey9086
      @jonathanmonkey9086 Месяц назад

      @@Mary_Puppins yea that is true but specifically speaking about movies that came out after endgame in this multiverse saga, gtg3 was a great movie to come out and while it didn’t really bring back marvel it did really well and was a great movie

  • @Tdoggyloc
    @Tdoggyloc 29 дней назад

    I appreciate the thorough breakdown. Great content

  • @TroyNaumu808
    @TroyNaumu808 Месяц назад +1

    I'm not confused. It's the Multiverse. There is precedent in the Marvel Comics Universe. The Kevin knows the answers and the way forward. It was meticulously planned especially with RDJ on board.

  • @McCheeseincakes
    @McCheeseincakes Месяц назад +1

    Just like Galactus, this will give audiences a taste of what this villain is about and what they're capable of so that when there is that soft reboot right after Secret Wars, the 616 timeline can get ready to deal with their own version of Galactus and Victor Von Doom.

    • @takerhulk3163
      @takerhulk3163 Месяц назад

      Excited to see how they do Galactus and if were still getting a silver surfer show or special

  • @alexthefish9999
    @alexthefish9999 Месяц назад

    My theory is that in whichever universe this Doom is from, a young Tony Stark was travelling through Latveria with his parents on a business trip, when the Winter Soldier strikes and kills his parents. He spares Tony, as he was not meant to be there and was not part of the mission. Young Tony flees into the forest and is rescued by a Romani couple, and raised as Victor Von Doom. His story then plays out in a traditional Dr Doom way, with Tony forgetting his previous life, until Doomsday, when an incursion brings him into contact with the 616 Avengers who keep referring to him as Tony Stark. This starts an identity crisis where he discovers his lost past and the life of 616 Tony which eventually leads to him re-joining the Avengers in Secret Wars as Infamous Iron Man.

  • @jeremybrown5899
    @jeremybrown5899 Месяц назад

    It's Dark avengers/siege. We've seen the secret invasion, Captain Marvel already introduced the skrulls to the MCU, Osborne is out there. A new Venom movie, Daredevil reintroduced bullseye in season 4, sentry is coming into the fold, and in that story Tony Stark introduces his own degenerative brain disease to put himself into a coma so Osborne can't get the tech. Enter Doom, working with Loki and osborne, bringing in his own iron man suit to fight the dark avengers.

  • @matthewbishop1211
    @matthewbishop1211 Месяц назад

    This video makes some good points. They wouldnt take a risk this big with such a iconic actor.

  • @MultiAbstrak
    @MultiAbstrak Месяц назад

    I haven't watched your video yet. But one of the theories i have is that Doom exists in the FF4's time line as DR. Doom, but when they eventually travel to the future Tony is the Son of Doom.

  • @jesusguillermo
    @jesusguillermo Месяц назад

    This is epic! Multi-universe for sure… multi-tony sparks. Awesome!!

  • @Lusterlordlink
    @Lusterlordlink Месяц назад

    When Chris showed up I was like no way and then “flame on” 😂

  • @kingcancer927
    @kingcancer927 Месяц назад

    Marvel Studios got us good with this one… I’m so happy!!!

  • @ssilent8202
    @ssilent8202 22 дня назад +1

    Relegating doom to just a tont variant is simply creativity bankrupt

  • @Justin_W
    @Justin_W Месяц назад

    This seems crazy, but I am definitely intrigued! I think your theory seems plausible for sure!

  • @kevinwhite1671
    @kevinwhite1671 Месяц назад

    "I'll come back as Tony Stark if you allow me to be Dr. Doom as well. You did it with Josh Brolin..."

  • @halfdbsr3454
    @halfdbsr3454 Месяц назад +1

    I believe RDJ is just playing Dr. Doom and he happens to look like Iron Man

    • @user-yl2pe9dm7j
      @user-yl2pe9dm7j Месяц назад

      That would be disappointing and lazy though, no?

  • @jeanineevereux
    @jeanineevereux Месяц назад

    This is a fascinating theory! The idea of Doom resenting Tony's privilege and going to the extent of a body swap to claim it for himself is a compelling plotline. It would be thrilling to see how Tony, even as a mind-wiped commoner, rises again because of his inherent genius. And the possibility of them eventually switching back, and maybe bringing Robert Downey Jr. back as Iron Man. I'm curious to see where this is going.

  • @kingcreado
    @kingcreado Месяц назад

    "No RUclipsr will EVER charge you for shipping"... I feel secure here!

  • @Thebeardedwonder1985
    @Thebeardedwonder1985 Месяц назад +1

    Looking forward to seeing how they pull this off. Love the videos!

  • @joelhorta2587
    @joelhorta2587 Месяц назад

    I love your theory. There is a reason RDJ is back. I feel like he knows what a great script and only took the job because of the script they pitched to him. He did an amazing job as Iron man and he will do an amazing job as Dr. Doom!

  • @riosvalex
    @riosvalex Месяц назад

    Can not believe the FOMO felt from missing the Xmen97 finale however so ready for further tales with my fave characters.

  • @govindarajangeetha
    @govindarajangeetha Месяц назад

    I believe that Robert Downey Jr. (Tony Stark) and Cillian Murphy (Victor Von Doom) will switch roles after a memory swap. This means Cillian Murphy will portray Iron Man, while Robert Downey Jr. will take on the role of Doctor Doom until the Avengers: Doomsday War. After this event, they will switch back, with Robert Downey Jr. returning as Iron Man and Cillian Murphy resuming his role as Doctor Doom in Secret War. This way, we get to see both actors as Iron Man and Doctor Doom.

  • @derichfurrer3197
    @derichfurrer3197 Месяц назад

    RDJ not being a Tony Stark variant now just makes me more curious on how this plays out. Time will tell!

  • @montaviouswilson9507
    @montaviouswilson9507 Месяц назад

    Saw it Sunday. Laws yes we needed this movie. 😂😂

  • @Undici
    @Undici Месяц назад +1

    RDJ coming back as Doom is probably the biggest curve ball Marvel has thrown us in recent memory, I just wonder how they're going to transition from Kang to him in just a few movies before Avengers Doomsday. Definitely excited to see how this develops!

  • @FamOfLe
    @FamOfLe Месяц назад

    It will be like the “What If” series. Different reality and such. And multiverses. Exciting

  • @Dcat75thunder
    @Dcat75thunder Месяц назад

    I love that take and there is nothing better then when the bad guy turns good!!

  • @Thomason81
    @Thomason81 Месяц назад

    I think he’s a Tony Stark variant. I agree that Marvel meticulously plans for every detail down to this announcement. That being said, RDJ is on stage with the Dr. Doom mask and then puts on a pair of what looks like Tony Stark style sunglasses that look awfully similar to what he wore in the Marvel movies he’s appeared in. Anybody here wanna to go through that footage and post a side by side?

  • @Zenfulcreationz
    @Zenfulcreationz Месяц назад

    This is mind blowing 😮. This is the twist the MCU needs

  • @TheHomieQuani
    @TheHomieQuani Месяц назад

    Tony Stark becoming Victor Von Doom could be an very enticing move!!!!! I'm for it.

  • @saelannanavan
    @saelannanavan Месяц назад

    Cannot stop watching that clip of the RDJ reveal!

  • @johnnyboy0912
    @johnnyboy0912 Месяц назад

    i am definitely looking forward to seeing how Dr Doom is introduced to the MCU and what the back story is.

  • @edthekoreanbrit92
    @edthekoreanbrit92 Месяц назад

    My MCU RDJ Dr. Doom Theory: Through body switching or another plot mechanism, Viktor is inhabiting the body of a Tony Stark variant from another universe. As a last resort after realizing that it’s the only way (Consulting Dr. Strange on all potential future outcomes)….They agree to do what was sworn never to be done(A detail we’ll soon learn of, potentially even with foreshadowing in upcoming releases): The Avengers download Tony’s “saved state” consciousness from F.R.I.D.A.Y. By means of either a spell being cast or in some way more analogue, they manage force Victor back into his own body by integrating Tony’s consciousness into his alter. This climatically peaks with the return of Iron Man joining the team to defeat Doom, perfectly wrapping up the multiverse saga in a velvet bow and inevitably given a soft reboot following down the road.
    - I also see a potential for them to declare OG Tony the anchor as a partial justification for The Avengers to make the tough choice.
    - I’m still on the fence as to how much of the source material will be applied regarding Reed Richards.

  • @sbaldis
    @sbaldis Месяц назад

    They would never recast him just because he's a amazing actor. He's 100% going to be some variation of Tony Stark whether alternate universe, clone, whatever. Having said that the What-If storyline requires too much explanation, I really doubt it's that.

  • @Hu3vosGr4nd3s
    @Hu3vosGr4nd3s Месяц назад

    I initially heard about this story on Comics Explained’s channel, and it actually got me from skeptical to excited. And since there are rumors about a reboot after secret wars, maybe they figure they can just throw RDJ in the role for now, then recast a long term Dr Doom in the reboot.