Jordan Peterson ~ Why Can't You Let Go Of An Unfair Treatment?
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- Jordan Peterson ~ Why Can't You Let Go Of An Unfair Treatment?
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clean environment and plumbing !! nize suggestion dude !! 4:10
5:40 It is in the interest of Conservative parties wanting to be re-elected, for the masses to be underfed. Very interesting fact.
Orbanist Nazi State Media: You have met Viktor Orban, who is also often maligned by certain media outlets. Do you think what you could have read about him reflects reality?
JBPeterson: Possibly, I can't say for certain. I know that one of the things your PM is trying to do is reinstitute the metaphysical foundations of Hungarian culture. He might be lucky and succeed.
Another the guest of Führer Orban in the Nazi eagle nest, the Führer-Castle of Buda, Father Jim Blount: I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your prime minister. Another name for Jesus is Viktor.
Thank you!
your welcome dearest Getcherd-woman@@getchertified
Orbanist Antisemitic Racist Nazi State Media: You have met Viktor Orbán, who is also often maligned by certain media outlets. Do you think what you could have read about him reflects reality?
Old White Misogynist Person:
"my message to the Hungarians: Do not rebel against your leader! Your leader is trying to restore the metaphysical foundation of the 1000 years old Hungarian empire
I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your PM. Another name for Jesus is Viktor"
"If you avoid conflict to keep the peace, you start a war inside yourself." ~Cheryl Richardson i find this my favourite quote because it is keeping quiet that makes you unable to forgive situations because your mad at yourself for not standing up for what you believe to be right
Viktor Orban's Antisemitic State Media: You have met Viktor Orbán, who is also often maligned by certain media outlets. Do you think what you could have read about him reflects reality?
Old White Misogynist Person:
"my message to the Hungarians: Do not rebel against your Prime Minister. Your Prime Minister is trying to restore the metaphysical foundation of the 1000 years old Hungarian empire
I would like to tell you a secret about Jesus and a secret about your PM. Another name for Jesus is Viktor"
Sometimes the battle is not worth it. Is it worth spending $10k of effort in court to win a $4k payment from a deadbeat client? Maybe it is for the principle. But maybe one might prefer to cut their losses.
No more truer a statement. I have 'keep the peace' fatigue with my family. Everyone strong is gone. I have internalized a lot only to find myself getting angry for not letting them have it! I get tired of fighting my own corner.
I've always thought that War inside yourself is noble,and part of self-actualization. While War with others is ignorant. Filled with righteousness and a failure to take responsibility.
@@barefootarts737 you start a war within yourself because you thought u did not do what was to be done, thats your conscience.
So the reason why you can’t let go of an unfair treatment is because you feel disgusted with yourself for not doing something about it. I had to watch the video a few times to get it
Wow, thanks, I forgot what the video was about by the end
Thanks for clearing that up. I screenshot your summary too to remember the lesson.
Yes!
Beatriz Villacorta thankyou. is true.
I think this is where I’m at. I need to forgive myself for being an ignorant kid & I also need to forgive my parents for their ignorance & not protecting me.
Often when someone says something hurtful or nasty you are shocked and can’t think quickly enough of
something to say in retaliation. You can usually think of something later and this is annoying and
frustrating and takes a while to stop feeling more angry with yourself than with them.
You don't know how much I relate to this.
Most people, whether admitting to themselves or not, have more or less often related to this in life
Yes!
The solution is to have retorts in preparation. Verbal judo and skill in discourse don't just happen. I like to think the best of people and still generally do but if you don't come prepared, that is no one else's fault. Not meant as an insult BTW. Protect yourselves out there.
When someone says something hurtful it triggers your fight or flight and your thinking brain goes offline. That’s why it’s hard to think of a good come back on the spot. Most of us can relate ☹️
I wish Mr. Peterson well and a speedy recovery.
Recovery from what?
Shanes Story Dr*
@@СашаБеленко-в8ж
Benzodiazepine withdrawal
Shanes Story what happened to him
I would like to tell him that he is a very important person. That he always will be. That his work is done, just take care of himself.
The trick is to be more emotionally reactive in situations where you are being used/abused and less cerebral. This is totally counter to what we are taught to do in most other situations, but in a confrontational situation we need to let our inner rage go. If at that moment our rage is suppressed, it becomes unresolved and manifests itself in other ways. There is nothing wrong with exhibiting emotions in certain situations. Don’t condition yourself to become a punching bag for anyone.
Stand up for yourself. I have learned this in life. Don’t let people treat you unfairly because it makes you feel angry, frustrated, and used. Just saying that is wrong and unfair gives you a chance to gather your thoughts so you can respond to an unfair situation. People who criticise, or bully you expect to get away with it because they think they have the upper hand by being on the attack. Retaliate you will feel better in the end and won’t be berating yourself for being a coward or letting the aggressor get away with making you feel bad or small. Always remember they have no right to be cruel or rude to you.
not easy to do if you are at a disadvantage, e.g, alone, weak, tired, intoxicated, confused, lost, vulnerable etc
Exactly. And by not reacting, the other person or people will see that as a green light to continue what they were doing or to do worse.
There's no one way to react. If you react in rage to someone that is unstable it could escalate their behavior and become dangerous. Being cerebral can save a person's life. It all depends on the individual situation.
It's not always safe either.@@Natashahoneypot
my anger towards the people who morally injured me declines when i fight shame within myself. the shame is about not standing up for myself adequately at the time. due to PTSD and shock. so what he is saying about not getting over being treated unfairly is experientially true for me.
thanks to you I realized something that I kind of didn't before. There was a moment in the past where I was treated extremely disrespectful and not fair by an employer. I sometimes think about it, like once a year it comes back up. I am kind ok with that now, as I try to see the situation with forgiveness...as in that the disrespectful employer probably has loads of problems of his own, and you never know why a person turns up the way they do, because of socialization and many many more factors. Anyway I realized now that the reason why I think about that sometimes is because I didn't stood up for myself in that moment as the way I was treated was so sudden and unexpected, like a sucker punch in the stomach, by a person you thought was a friend or good person, and it's like you said, the shame of not standing up for myself. It makes sense. But I always try to learn from mistakes and see bad situations as something that makes me better in the long run. Trying to earn something useful positive out of a negative situation. Sorry for the long message, cheers and have a nice day stranger on the internet :)
@Helena Bad situations are generally learning experience for similar future situations, ie in order to avoid making the same mistake.
I’m right there with ya, I was exposed to hate crimes directed at me.
@@PG-qn8od, It would be nice to see a collection of ways people got out of awkward, embarrassing situations in the moment. For example: A couple of times I’ve accidentally ended up in the wrong line at the store, causing real anger. The best response when an apology doesn’t work is to say, “Haven’t you ever made a mistake?” People even clapped for me once. I’d love to hear from others.
@@PG-qn8od no one has the right to treat another.human being disrespectful. It will all backfire on them in one form.or another. There's no excuse for it.
This makes sooo much sense. There are 2 men in my past that I feel treated me so unfairly. I never even got the chance to tell them off or stand up for myself because basically they just ran off without listening to me. These two incidents haunt me even now when I think about it. Time has healed and I don't think about them often but when I do, it just stick in my claw. There are other men that I did not like the treatment but I got the chance to defend myself, tell them off and dump them. Those incidents do Not haunt me. Men and women should always, always defend yourself, stand up for yourself because no one else can stand up for you the same way you will. I am just glad that there were on 2 incidents and Not a life time of being trampled on.
I just ended a relationships because I was treated unfairly, but I never addressed it with that person, and I feel disgusted with myself for not standing up for myself at the time. I blocked her off for 2 months now, and I'm still healing from all this, but I was wondering if I would heal a bit faster if I send her one last message to stand up for myself because I was unfairly treated, or should I just let time do its work to heal me?. please know that this is not about "getting her back" or anything of the sort. Thank you.
U were probably annoying and trying to force your opinion on how they should act on them so they viewed u as annoying/disgusting which pushed them away
For me I've been duped, please believe me because it's hard to believe that you can be harassed by ads or people can control your media but it happened. This is what I believe at least. Just minding my own business and they make you see yourself, the world differently. I'm pretty sure they're white supremacist, I guess I'll never know.
@@Beauloqs - If it were a man who posted, you wouldn't be asking that. Get a life and stop being offended on behalf of men you don't even know. They might just be jerks. She might be a survivor, and predatory men target women who come from abusive backgrounds. It's a cycle of abuse.
In future, any time you feel emotional and want to post condescending questions to women, go do it to men. Men are not perfect angels. They are the aggressive, larger, more violent and irrational side of humanity. They commit 98% of violent crimes and 80% of their victims are women. Yes, it is entirely possible that a woman can meet not one, but two abusive men, especially if she came from an abusive background.
Besides, WHY even ask that? You don't know her. It's none of your business.
Worry about being a better person and contributing something positive to the world.
@@thinkingoutloud675 - You speak about yourself.
I can't let go of unfair treatment when i feel like there is no punishment for the offender. People getting away with evil is not just. As a thinking, feeling human i need justice.
You have no control over that. You only have control over yourself. Visualize putting it in a paper lantern, take a match to it, and let it go. Don't give away your happiness ❤
Agree
this right here is so true. I feel like so many people in my life have mistreated me, physical,verbal emotional and sexual abuse, and there was NEVER any justice. Alot of it is because it burns me inside to think about how they got away with it.
@@jk2642 I pray you get justice. This world can be so unfair, but it's temporary. The wicked may enjoy this life, but their end is destruction. Knowing there is a just God who sees everything gives me the hope I need to move on.
@@jk2642 and then its even worse because it bothers you to no end but you know they don't even think about it.
We instinctively know that it is our anger at allowing ourselves to be treated badly that burns inside. But we need to hear this to fully understand.
We have to forgive ourselves for lacking 20:20 vision. For not knowing what we know today.
Even when I stood up to my coworker I still felt the rage inside for a while. Maybe it resolved quicker though and there was the added feeling of vindication and feeling proud of myself.
I do not think it is a one size fits all answer. The injustice can come at such a young age that it is inconceivable to be upset at yourself. But you can be angry at the monsters who hurt you.
@@suras8984That's a good point. I've felt similar where I've stood up to injustice, but injustice is still injustice at the end of the day. I was angry for a week or two, but I got over it. Someone who doesn't stand up for themselves sufficiently enough could be troubled for longer however.
No. You make recepients of abuse to be responsible for their abusers' actions. How mad it is
It is unsettling that the victims of unfair treatment are often told or even pressured into forgive and or to forget. A one time offence is one thing but a lifetime of bad consequences for the victims because of a long history of being unfairly treated is on another whole level.
All but a Saint would persevere trough that challenge.
I wish that wrong doers are encouraged to actually to seek forgiveness out of sincerely or for the sake of the victim.
Well said.
Thank you 🙏🏽 I am such a person, from family, work, school. I surprised I’ve lived so long without bad things happening. Usually divine intervention always prevails over me.
You don't have to forgive someone who did you wrong if you don't want to. It is the wrong doer who needs to ask for forgiveness, and that can only happen when he or she feels remorse. The best thing to do for oneself is to forget, that fades horrible trauma.
Forgive them for yourself but dont forget the lessons and dont ever allow them.back into your life
How you are treated, well or unjustly, affects you for the rest of your life. Unjust treatment is never over. It is unreasonable to expect your feelings to change if the adverse circumstances remain.
Shame on every person that trashed this brilliant man.
The treatment of Jordan Peterson opened my eyes to the left and it’s controlling ways. Not by what he said but by what people said about him. They tried to stop him helping people whilst causing a great mind great stress. Shame on you.
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jerrygord3131 *tit
Tbezza 100% correct.
He predicted their violence too and to the year. In 2015 he said they are going to get violent
I thought he became addicted to pills.
This man is such a blessing. He can make sense of a chaotic world.
Absolutely agreed. He speaks in pure gold.
I can’t let go because every one around me watched what happened and tried to normalize it.
Nuremburg must be upheld. Freedom isnt free. Stay strong, your not alone. we together will not give up, we will not be silent, and we will drive until the end of days towards justice for the victims, and prosecution for the perpetrators.
This will be a long battle. Take time to heal, to feed your soul. But never give up.
@@ARouser15 Beautifully said.
I have been traumatised and devastated by loss of an executive career and my home because I chose what NOT to put in my body. The hurt of how I was treated with the employer inverting reality and playing a dirty underhanded game of “performance management” messed with my head and left me frozen and unable to defend myself. I chose to be stoic and hopeful, while they slowly and meticulously dug my grave.
There is no support or recognition in Australia for those impacted this way…apparently it was our choice
This man is a hero. He will be well forever because of his contribution to society. Eternal peace my friend.
I've known a few women who were unable to let go of some terrible treatment for the simple reason that they felt the person who treated them so terribly did not receive the justice that they deserved and were unwilling to forgive.
Replace the whole video with this comment
replace "justice" with "revenge" and you can understand they are destroying themselves.
@@billmoyer3254 there's a fine line between revenge and justice.
justice is agreed upon by an impartial fair judge.
revenge is emotional retaliation and personalized punishment.
and yeah. I never got over women abusing me from 5-26...
and it destroyed me
I took what I felt was the morally right decision over an ethical problem at work and lost my job over it - it’s taken an absolutely massive toll on me! However, I feel so disgusted with my now ex-employer for how they acted, I actually have a visceral wretching and gagging response when I think back to their actions. If I was to go back and know what the future consequences would be, as bad as they’ve been, I’d still make the same decision. No matter the personal cost, always stick by a decision you think is morally right. At the end of the day, you can look at yourself in the mirror and say; “I did the right thing.”
This happened to me with Hand and Stone Spa! I lost weight, sleep, and almost my sanity
@@kristenshea5491 Sorry to hear that, it sucks doesn’t it? Those who won’t stand up for what’s right get to keep their jobs while you do the right thing and just get left to pick up the pieces of your life. I’m trying to take all the negative feelings I have; the anger at the unjustness of it and turn it into fuel for something positive going forward but tbh, it’s really not easy.
I’m glad you did the right thing with what happened in your case though - when it comes right down to it, there are few people who do.
How do you deal with continuous unemployment due to this because even if you want to forgive and forget, the hunt for employment and answers you have give to interviewers will not allow you to forget it.
@@Aratiii06 I’ve had other freelance skills to fall back on but tbh, if I had to go for a job interview I’d just straight out tell the potential employer what happened and see what their reaction is. If they don’t agree that I did the right thing in my situation then I’d know their ethics are lacking so I wouldn’t want to work for them anyway.
It’s been a hard lesson for me to learn but you have to look at an employer the same way you do any other relationship. If you see red flags and they treat other people poorly then find a way to leave before you’re in a situation where you’re reliant on them and they think they can treat you like sh*t. A bad employer is just the same as an abusive partner, you have to extricate yourself from their clutches before they ruin your life.
OMG...I'm goin thru this right now...they want me back but I don't think I'd look at some coworkers same without throwing up in my mouth....
There’s so much more to this. I don’t know what your upbringing was like but i know that all the problems we may carry as adults to some extent truly start at home. And the kicker is when those who teach you about the importance of fairness are not fair with you. It sets you up and not in a positive way. Or at least thats my take on it.
Life is unfair by nature. Who are we to expect anything else?
Hits close to home, pun intended.
"Education" and "knowledge" are simply sets of information one acquires. The usefulness and efficacy of these information will vary accordingly. People with less efficient or faulty information will pass it on, making the behavior (thought processes) of the new little ones less than optimal (to various degrees). It just seems to me those who suffer more, in terms of psychological suffering, are those who are potentially more intelligent and capable, but that get "damaged" by lesser processes (information/education) being forced upon and into them.
Agreed
@@recreant359 Life is fair by nature. Complete chaos. Completely fair. Only in order, can unfairness arise. You're thinking about the fairness of outcomes, which is a perversion/corruption of the meaning of the word, introduced by radical marxists recently. Fairness is supposed to mean that you play by the same rules, not that you end up at the same point as everyone else. Ironically, by buying into this concept of fairness of outcome, people have been chipping at true fairness, because they have to change the rules so that the people who don't deserve to be at the top, rise to the top.
I cant get over it because its wrong and I wouldn't do it to others.
I guess it's a matter of high expectations. Don't expect too much from others, life or even yourself.
maybe look into some of his other content.. the fact is that you could do it to others.. that evil is within you.. even if you have subdued it. Hopefully that helps 🙂
It's good to know, we are not them. Thank God.
Nobody likes injustice.
Its means you are naive.
This is SOOOO true. I am SO disgusted with myself for letting my guard-down, and I can't let it go.
I recently was played/used by my "best friend," who was a female, and SHE manipulated ME into having sex with her. She isn't my type, but I was intimate with her a few times, solely to make her happy. I could tell she needed companionship, she was lonely, etc. So it seemed harmless. After all, this was a person who I had love for, as a person. We spoke every day, hung-out, I was training her daily at her home, I had friendships with her children, ETC ETC.
Then, out of nowhere, she discarded me.
I am so disgusted with myself for letting myself believe this woman actually VALUED me, when clearly, she did not. She would tell me ALL THE TIME how much my friendship meant to her, how she needed me, etc etc. I replay all the things she told me, and I realize, they were likely all lies, and I HATE myself for being so naive.
Don't hate yourself for believing her lies, we are all guilty at some point of believing in words because we are human, and that's what humans do, they talk. Personally, as i'm getting older, I'm only trusting in others' ACTIONS and my own gut feeling/ instinct for fairness/justice. And also , there's one intangible principle : reciprocity. You can't allow yourself to do more for someone than they do for you.
You are allowed to forgive yourself
sounds like a borderline personality
Don't take this on as your own failing, put this squarely back into your ex friends 'court'. You have seen her for what she is, very manipulative. Learn to say one of the smallest words in the world but is the most difficult- no! I had a similar experience and it took me a while to realise I was wronged and I got my self back together by being good to myself. Go to a movie, hang out with other friends, live, laugh and above all, love again😃
@@emmawilson2837 That was beautiful. Thank you for the words.
What I find the most frustrating and difficult thing for me is that a lot of times I do not recognize it immediately when someone is being cruel and unkind to me. It’s later in the day, after it’s done and the moment long past to where I realize just how I had been slighted or slandered against. And this is what I struggle with most, because by this point I can’t do anything about it but stew in my anger. Am I too obtuse to even see it or have people become so slick in their attacks that it’s not recognizable when it’s happening.
I believe I don't recognise injustice directed towards myself at the time it happens because I don't have that traight in my own self. Same way why I don't recognise narcissism. But.. I am learning that when I do finally recognise it's happened again, I must address it, in some form, in order to value myself, not devalue. It's sad and confronting at the time, but one day, you realise that it's all really not something to bother caring about.
Can you give a couple examples what people have done, for you to realize after the fact?
Same. Some people are so bad faith that even trying to explain to them how their slander is wrong is not worth it. One guy heard a rumour about me that I'd spread rumours about him then treated me as if I was guilty. He misunderstood more than he realized about what I'd said and meant. I was defending him in the conversation with the fellow who he believed. Since he believed that guy and presumed it was accurate without asking me it seemed prejudicial. I was furious as this in part cost me a $200k job. But he wanted his friend to get it, and he did. At about $150k. This is a guy so gutless, his employees make propaganda encouraging violence and he says nothing.
You can give yourself a bit of a break. In order for people to enact their aggression with little to no consequence (which everybody wants, let's be real), they have to be at least somewhat covert about it. A lot of the time you could look at the act (whatever it is) without context and see it as an everyday sort of comment or action. But later when you have time to connect your negative feelings with what happened, you realize what the source was. And then you have to further analyze it to figure out why it was hurtful. By the time you connect all the dots and realize that they were actually being rude, manipulative or unfair, the opportunity to retaliate has passed. I believe it's actually a sign of being open-minded, thoughtful and cautious if it happens to you a lot. In the moment you are busy absorbing your environment and performing your social role. If you acted on the hurt in the moment, you would be acting somewhat blindly because you're not taking into account if you're being fair or what triggered the hurt. But yeah, the downside is that you have to cope with the loss of self-respect later. Eventually through encountering that same type of situation over and over again, you will not need so much time to analyze it, and you can then act "correctly" in the moment. I think the self-disgust motivates you to obsess and therefore learn faster so you can avoid being at a disadvantage too much in the future.
I can relate to what you’re saying. I find it useful to notice the thoughts/beliefs fueling the unpleasant feelings and question whether they’re actually true. For example, in recalling the incident you might be thinking that you were “weak” or “cowardly” or “stupid.” But maybe you were just being cautious, giving the other person the benefit of the doubt, or open-minded, or you simply didn’t notice something. So it’s reframing, but I also find this sort of updated interpretation is almost always more accurate.
The titles of these are always kind of misleading. JP just answered that question in a quick sentence or two in the middle of the video but most of it was about other things. Not complaining though I'll listen to JP talk about anything.
I think that's because the title relates to one comment or point, but the entire video is a clip from a lecture.
Totally. I've clicked on so many of these and the title rarely matches the content.
The title is 'Why can't you let go of an unfair treatment?' and its only quickly tied in the middle of segment however the entire video is about that exact reason: Why you can't let go is because of the psychological immune response feeling of disgust to a perceived breach of social boundaries and here is why that disgust response is so strong and deep rooted. The whole clip is about the title.
@@fortusvictus8297 Ah ok that makes sense
Really well explained, thank you
I can't tell you enough. This guy has changed my life.
I hear tons of people say this and I’m trying to figure out how, trying to make a change myself but don’t understand half of what he says with his big words
@@dl6043 I don't even hear any big words) In fact, most of what he says doesn't work in many places on our planet.
Over all those years, Dr. Jordan Person is one of the most decent, highly intelligent scientists and honourable fighters for humanity . Thank God ... he is back. He is healthy now, he is speaking to the world. God bless you Dr. Peterson.
I'm so grateful to this man for helping people make sense of their lives, yet I can't help but feel sad to see how much happier Jordan was here. He looked like he truly loved what he was doing, enjoying his lectures and all before he blew up and all the stresses of fame, controversy, health issues started weighing down on him hard. I sincerely hope he's doing better now.
I noticed his genuine exuberance being in front of the classroom. That was a different lifetime…everything “pre covid” seems so much lighter.
Imo he’s likely much happier now. The amount of people he’s been able to reach since the days of his lectures is staggering.
Moral of the story...
Offer the judge as much delicious food as you can
@Politely Correct I´m a teacher, they keep giving me chocolates and now I know why.
Or make sure you don't stand infront of one your all life, lol ! !
A fruit perfume maybe?
Never trust someone who is placed in a position to judge you.
@@erdftzgh You may not have a choice. Today " believe all women"
Yeah. Right. Women never lie! Lolololol
Be well Dr. Peterson! Prayers are up and continue. You’ve got this, I’m confident.
Get well soon Dr. Jordan Peterson. I am praying for you and your family.
Saddened to hear of his many personal challenges. Godspeed his recovery!
What happened
@@lenahuerta100 dependence on anxiety treatment along with the inverse effect of it
DJ Harps in the UK?
I feel like he and I could have a never ending conversation. From sociology to philosophy, political to spiritual, the depth and range of topics would just keep evolving indefinitely.
Such a brilliant mind.
Jay Chapman. Yes, I would like a conversation with him also, but I fear I haven’t got any where near his
intellect unfortunately.
@@gailcrowe727 oh absolutely. I am pretty intelligent but the opportunity to enjoy conversation with someone more knowledgeable, experienced, and brilliant is the whole allure for me. I doubt very seriously that he would benefit whatsoever from the conversation. However I would immensely. Lol
@@jaychapman2045great minds benefit even from the mind of a fool or a child
@@greenjupiter very true and wise statement.
@@greenjupiter True, but only when that person is actually interested in learning and not challenging you just for the sake of it, or to stay right.
This is actually the version of Jordan that I dearly respect. Hope he comes back
It might be cleaner and safer at the top, but I promise you it's also one of the most stressful places to be and you always have a lot of pressure on your back. You definitely feel that as you get older and realize that being on the top is just not that important anymore, especially with all the judgment, envy, and resentment from others you have to deal with as well. Getting to the top is more important when you're young and hungry and have a lot to prove. Once you get older, you realize nobody cares either way so you should only prove things for yourself, not others.
@@-.-Rob-.-XY What a wonderful comment. I bet that made you happy. Have a nice day sir and take care :)
@@Nicefail87 100% agree. That's why I started my own businesses, became a full-time investor, and pursue financial freedom every single day.
When you have "fuck you money", nobody can touch you :D
Reminds me of high school. The jealousy is on a different level, and that's when you're broke. It only gets worse from there and you can't even be in proximity to bottom feeders.
@@javascriptkiddie2718 Fuck em all ;-)
Modesty is the best policy towards greatness😉
Prayers for your quick healing, recovery and return to complete health Dr. Peterson! 🙏🙏🙏
I follow the Aspie rule aka the Platinum Rule: Treat Others how you'd Expect to be Treated without also expecting any Reciprocity Whatsoever.
We was all taught treat people how wanna be treated in kindergarten. You would think we would all know but no
@@MelodiousMelodies7 And before it was taught in kindergarten or an aspie rule, it was in the Bible :
Do to others as you would have them do to you.
“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Luke 6:31-35
Great way to signal how wonderfully virtuous you are.
@@mouseyman lol. Believers in a manic imaginary being always try to coopt or take credit for morals. Do you think the buy Bull was the first place this idea came up? No. It was not. Morals and ethics evolved as a way to help insure survival of the tribe or group. Since there is better survival in numbers rather than alone.
It was my understanding that treating others how they would prefer to be treated is “the platinum rule”. Treating others how *you would prefer to be treated is “the golden rule”. The Bible advocates the golden rule. In modern times we’ve moved beyond that, realizing that not everyone prefers to be treated the same way, necessarily.
We need Professor Peterson now more than ever in the US
It’s usually considered an ego issue if you can’t let something go but this is a good point. I feel like I am avoiding a proper response to being wronged due to not wanting to get in trouble for something I want to do.
Or if the person who wronged you is a narcissist they will seize the moment you react and label you the crazy one.
Doesn’t sound like the proper response… for you will hurt yourself more should you choose to hurt another (even in revenge).
Through personal experience, I came to understand that excessively worrying about a certain situation or person or having nightmares (such as in trauma triggers or c-PTSD), was my brain's way of trying to prevent bad things from happening again in the future. And the fix is surprisingly simple. Make a plan. Use the information from the event or nightmares to figure out what you would do in that situation. Then, expand to include other possibilities.
After doing this and having to face the people who triggered the trauma (and other inner work), my brain finally decided that the nightmares weren't as necessary anymore. I still get them, but it's more of an inconvenience/annoyance than anxiety-inducing.
Thank you for sharing this ❤️
Wow. Thank you so much for sharing 🙏🏻❤️
But what if u don't have control over other's actions if they still being disrespectful?
@@amy2434 You never have control over others -- you only have control over yourself. I recommend using the method "When x happens, I feel x." Usually people will offer a solution, but if they don't, make your request here. You can follow that up with "Otherwise, I will x." And this should be something like removing yourself from the situation or ending the conversation. You can also research boundaries and assertiveness.
You're right. The brain keeps doing that because it ( yet ) didn't understand what happened and what to do in similar situations.
Understanding the hit you took, your vulnerabilities that made it possible will materialize the change you need to do to prevent similar experiences.
My 4year old would announce ‘false accusement’ when he considered himself unfairly dealt with😂😂😂
Haha! I know that one
I need to remember that one XD
Cute.
Please come back we need you in this time !!!
What's happened to him?.
@@You_can_do_itt ik im late as hell but seriously people need to figure out how to do a 2 second long google search. i mean it makes no sense what people do whatsoever; you ask others questions to which you could find an answer to in 2 minutes, and then at the same time (obviously so) expect the answer from the person that you ask to come in a relatively LONG ASS TIME
"Cleanliness is next to Godliness" wow!
also..
Spiritual cleanliness
social cleanliness
mental cleanliness
Cleanliness is next to managerliness. - SpongeBob.
That is a line from HINDU scriptures which was made famous by Mahatma Gandhi.
It is very sad that Peterson NEVER credits his talks or that of his gurus to HINDU vedic scriptures. If u dig deep into any western philosopher, they all learnt their wisdom from HINDU scriptures.
And retribution is an act of cleansing
between this man and Alan Watts (of course many more), have helped change my view on this world years ago
I hope he comes back soon. Such a brilliant and nice man. Get well soon Mr. Peterson.
My sense of justice and understanding of love has been at an high level since birth !
Should women have the right to end the lives of their babies in utero?
Miss him so much. 😔
The second part of this video makes me think of the political effects on a public constantly menaced with fears of disease outbreaks.
I believe this is true, but why would you think that public and speaker belong to different groups?
As in, who's doing the fearmongering? They're the same, as they both contribute to the gestalt and influence each other, but there's consolidation on the Big Media end in most countries, just due to infrastructure and licensing. This is lessening as platforms emerge to collate public perspectives, which is demonstrating that the two zeitgeists have value differences. Hope that came across better.
@@Sokofeather Again, this is true, yet media works on rating money... It is as you say a complex system as every democratic republic.
MSM is like a bad trip for conservatives.
Decorated Kobold I know EXACTLY what you mean , but the brainwashing continues unchallenged , so many believe all they see on tv and msm
This made me realise what I've been doing wrong all my 40 years, I've been making disgust faces at people way way too often, one of the last remaining vestiges of autism spectrum/Asperger's syndrome.
On the other hand I also have made extremely open loving appreciative faces to those I like, which has garnered me lifelong friendships amazingly quickly, so that may well be worth the trouble the former may have caused as long as I can retain the latter. 💜
I love Jordan Peterson. I listen to at least one of his videos everyday. God bless him.❤️🙏
I swear these videos keep coming at the perfect time. I was literally just pissed off at how somebody reacted (disgusted) to something I did and this answered everything. I was not pissed off at the person but at myself for not responding how I would've liked. It clicked so perfectly and this isn't the first time that one of his videos have done this.
02:00 this is why personal hygiene and sharing meals is so important. Even if you are homeless trying to clean and well presented should be a priority, it affects how others will treat you and be the difference between getting help or being ignored.
This is 100% true. I went to this restaurant wearing raggedy clothes and messy hair to pick up food and the staff treated me like shit. I went back again after work wearing my dress clothes and a badge and they rushed over to me to help and were extremely kind.
Although if you're a clean and well-dressed homeless person people might think you're not really homeless but a scammer.
@@leozzz4213 It is not fair, but that's reality. It's sad.
@@leozzz4213ahahahha I never believed this until it happened to me.
I was wearing something not so cool with me hair tied and covered and face covered with mask and ordinary shoes and bag and went to some outlets at a mall and some offices and I was subtly looked at and treated as if I was a shop lifter or something. Felt so yucky surprising and annoying but it was new to me coz when I'm in my usual get up I get treated like a respectable person and most of the time get special treatment which is also not so comfortable for me, but damn the difference really opened my eyes and a bad thing that happened is that I lost respect for people in general. I feel like I've been overrating humans in general when in reality they are mostly superficial n are only kind and respectful when they consider someone influential in any way yikes
I wish this man a long future... why don’t we have more men like this...... Drugs, alcohol, social media and grandiose ideas of the new generations replacing of the old
But he does already a book, kids what other legacy?
In my experience, it was the unfair treatment by my father when I was a child, so I don't think I am disgusted with myself for not doing anything about it because there was absolutely nothing that I could've done about it.
In fact, I hate victim mentality and victim culture; because I always think that the "victim" could've done better to protect themselves, although, sometimes, that's still not enough, sometimes the dragon of chaos is just too big and we have to accept that. I think this is the whole key to forgiveness and overcoming unfair treatment in my case, but I'm still finding it hard to accept because I'm still living through it, but I have been doing better. Maybe in a year or two from now, once I've learnt to deal with, or once I overcome, all or most of the mental illnesses left I'm left with; once I fully achieve the "I'm the master of my own destiny" then I'll be ready to let go and forgive.
I know that I'm just repeating myself, but for some reason I felt it was necessary. Also, I'm looking for a therapist too now because (I'm going to repeat myself again) I am aware that overcoming that unfair treatment now would help me get to that point where I can embody "I am the master of my own destiny" in a many ways. I just hope that I find a good therapist.
Focus on how to improve the issues it caused you and forgive him internally. He played a huge part in making it extra hard for you, but more difficult is simply in need of more attention. You know what happened, and that's the biggest battle but most issues are also part of the person to take accountability accurately so if it was 80% your father make sure you're taking that 20% you because it's probably a pie of different things and sometimes the cure is something simple. For me, my stresses and trauma gave me enough tension to warp my body in a closed tight way, which gave me unreal problems, and focusing on the mental was good but the physical, symmetry weight ratio, body support, diet all were 10× more important to healing this trauma then sort of getting over how others hurt me and made it easier to hurt myself. When you get to the point where most things don't fluster you, the traumas that occur don't feel that bad when the symptoms are healed. And. they. can. be. healed.
Hey- it's been a year! 🙌 How you holding up? Did you ever find a good therapist?
Love his humor here, seems so lively and invigorated.
I really like this version of JP. He seems relaxed and funny. Whilst giving a serious talk
His lectures always blow my mind
Hello Dr and Tammy:I wish you
Both are bearing up during
Your recovery. My prayers are
With you both, My Hope is that
Your recovery will be complete.
And you Dr Peterson will return
Too the lectures where no one
Is your equal. Mary Wilkerson
This lecture had more to do with disgust and pathogens than letting go of unfair treatment.
The point about being disgusted with yourself for tolerating injustice was minor.
A former boss rose to the top of a small office because 25 years prior there was an employment bottleneck where it was only him and one other guy in the office for a few months and someone had to be the boss. The office was repopulated in the following years with him as the boss due to precedent. After that, everyone was nicer to my boss than what he deserved because he was the boss. He had no idea that was the case and literally thought he was a genius and always right or something. But instead it was simply an historic accident. So, the top of hierarchies is also where the delusion about self can be.
Awesome insight
Now imagine the delusion when you're in the top of government for decades...looking at you Biden.
That is so interesting! I’m learning so much from you Professor Peterson.
I have become hugely self aware and less agreeable( thereby less resentful ). I have also become way more courageous since I started watching your videos . Stay strong 💪
I love this mans enthusiasm if only all students had such a professor teaching them keep healthy dear man your family and fans need you🌹
We all experience unfair treatment, it may take sometime, but let go and live your life. You lose if you don't let go.
Quote from the new Tylor, the Creator album: "I don't know what's harder, letting go or just being okay with it."
100% true,
you can let go, right after inflicting consequences on the wrong doer!
@@foome36 Well i don't think just being okay with it is the antidote.
If you don't let go then its still in your mind. If its still in your mind then your view is affected by it.
I may have to hear these videos two or three times to really get them, but it is worth the treasure it brings. - ❤
Treat people in the way they treated you that's for me is a definition of the fairness
I understand my brother. But when we act like them. We lose, my brother.
Respect yourself for the tolerance you’ve shown and get them out of your life.
You know. I grew up in a orthodox christian home and family. I never understood all of the questions in my head about the legitimacy of the lifestyle where of any worth. Only after realizing i had lost my childhood and adolescense to grief and guilt did I become ashamed of not giving my doubts more urgency.
I am now trying to learn to live with the fact that I failed myself in a big way and that those that loved me the wrong way, did so in the name of something they themselceves struggle to fully believe.
It’s hard to let go if it’s still going on. It’s most insidious if there’s gaslighting that it’s not going on and you should “heal” because it’s “ over” when in reality it’s not
The meaningful information conveyed here, the deductions and combination of different important fields of science make this like gold.
Peterson is maybe the best at what he does.
I can't let go because what they did and how I was treated wasn't right. I want it to never have happened. I want to have been treated fairly and appropriately. I'll never get those moments back and that's why I can't let go, so I have to not only forgive them, but also myself for not meeting my current expectations of myself when it happened because that's me not treating myself fairly. Isn't it. Forgive yourself. Let go of the hurt.
Seeing someone like you mirror these empty words makes any truth behind them impossible to accept, after all, you're here and why would I want to be among the weak? You're like a chicken soup for the soul book in human form, a sign that the entire idea of being helped is so played out and parasitized I might as well just stop trying
Yes we have to have compassion for our past selves who didn’t know any better.
Hope he continues to enlighten humans on their conditions of existing
Watching Jordan Peterson I realize the key too success is knowing onesself
Young people- because they are innocent- clamor for justice. Those of us who have more years/experience, while we understand the importance of justice, also tend to look for understanding and forgiveness... 🙂
We love you! You’re a genius! 😇🤍🥰
My feelings are just pure disgust and hatred. But I also understand that holding onto it isn’t going to do me any favors in life. Betrayal is nothing new to me at all, peoples behavior makes me physically sick. It can be difficult to let go of, truly. It leaves you wishing that you could turn the clock back and run in the opposite direction. I have that in a few different situations. Sometimes you can’t help what happens to you, who you’ve crossed paths with or truly know that someone doesn’t have good intentions, maybe even from the start. You might feel it but you stupidly keep giving the benefit of the doubt.
Never miss red flags. No human being has the super power of maintaining the fascade in behavior and actions at all times. Even the best of the best players consciously or subconsciously give themselves away, so look out for red flags and when u see one, take note. Be observant but objective.
The more you observe the more you will be confident in figuring out your own ways of knowing someone's character.
For instance. I became acquaintanted with a person who was very mild mannered, submissive and smiley type, she and I ended up living together and started a business.
One day she and I went to a business meeting and on our way back, she saw a familiar person and asked me to wait for a minute and went to chat with them. I decided to buy some sweets at the shop where she left me and when I turned around she was gone - - - with that person. It enraged me. On the surface it was a small thing but in my long observation of people I made the judgement that she was actually an opportunist, she was a non committed self centered person who will never be sincere or even honest with anybody she enters any type of relationship or agreement with, she is a user who hides behind a friendly fascade.
Fast forward 2 years... She broke off all agreements we ever had and personal commitments as well acted like a stranger and all the time we were together and invested in stuff and took risks while having each other's backs. (she had been keeping many options on the side without my knowledge) she already had her exit plan in hand while I was 100 pct committed to the projects and personal connection with her.
Result :I knew her type the day she left me on the road like that.
All the business and personal agreements she abandoned became huge loss for her because I had kept all the legal matters in my control whereas this was her weakest point.
When she took off the mask and hit at at my weakest I was still able to come out stronger. She held few cards but the whole game was in my hand and she only realised it after she abandoned our joint ship and jumped in another very small weak boat. A total idiot and true loser
Had she kept her end of the bargain she'd have had more than she could ever dream of, but when she proved to me what I had concluded 2 years ago, I was prepared and she walked away as a stupid sh*t with no coins no respect and lost a great supportive friend. On the other hand if I was oblivious to all the clues she'd been unconsciously giving me about her true self I would have been dumbfounded and crashed and burned when she betrayed me. After the first red flag, countless others were out along the way, I kept record of all till the time she took off the sheep clothing and strike me.
Seeing red flags and taking them seriously can truly make all the difference when dealing with people
Sorry for the long story. This was a small incident of the fact that people ALWAYS reveal themselves in small things, always pay attention.
Why do I find this so funny. I mean it's true, but it's just so damning of us all as a bunch of animals that are hardly aware of the physiological underpinnings of our so-called intelligence.
some of us are aware, and correctly think there are way too damn many people allowed into the Agora, let alone to vote. I am of the opinion an individual should have the equivalent of an undergrad neuroscience/psyche degree understanding of what they are, before being allowed to participate in the Agora. Worth mentioning there are many graduates of such programs who still do not have that understanding.
Hows this strike you; Just as you are a community of living things, biologically speaking, your psyche is composed of many sentient consciousnesses and you, the one that believes it is the only consciousness and the boss, is a puppet late to even what you think are spontaneous choices. You are run by executive committee and your personality is told what to believe including the illusion you are the boss of your Self. This is not conjecture.
As I said, way too damn many people allowed into the Agora.
@Jacek Nowotnik Reasonable suggestion. If I may make one in return, stop trying so hard. Gets in the way of your efficacy. The process of individuation would be a better use of your energy. Your personality ("ego") is trying to be smart and you would grow significantly by understanding why
Michael Cherrington yes but what about the agora ?
Same with Malcolm Gladwells book
Welcome to reality lmao
Jordan is the Messiah of this planet. People, Listen, never have any doubts on him, Jordan speaks the Truth, how much ever bitter & harsh it might sound to your personal opinions and psyche, at any point in Time, he is a highly reliable person, has got you covered in his wings and he will protect you to live a wholesome life.
I’d agree with tolerance to inequality because life isn’t fair. I’ve been dealing with it all my life. Understand it, because you can’t always fight it.
These things / decisions based on narrow focus and judgment will continue to happen till we find the truth within that is unshakable regardless of external circumstances. God bless❤
God Bless this man. 🙏
Jordan ..the man who knows everything ..
Pretty sure I've been insulting people for a long time, by making a disgusted face at opinions I dont understand or agree with.
Don't play poker! You'll lose your shirt!
Hahaha! Me too.
Wise self-observation.
I never cease to be amazed by JP. Try not to stay hungry. 😂
This could also be applied to road rage as well. It all comes down to insecurity and inability to cope with feeling disgusted and to just let it go
Jordan Peterson true hero
It is interesting that human sense of justice is influenced significantly by a bitter drink. It reminds me of Jesus on the cross when he was offered a bitter drink. Yet, He stayed there. I never considered the bitter drink as intensifying His suffering.
That makes sense, I think a lot of my anger and resentment was towards myself for not fighting back, even if I lost, I should've still stood up for myself. But I've changed that now.
Get well soon doc.
There are times that one is a double-bind and they choose to try to minimize the damage.
It may also be because we are disgusted with those we trusted in who didn’t respond properly to the injustice .
And our trust was betrayed therefore making it hard to let go and trust again those we trusted in.
Just a thought from my own experience.
I love and miss this man!!
we had an art teacher that would grade based off his mood, so wait til hes happy before getting your work graded
Hit the nail on the head.
Treaty of Versailles' aftermath: Hunger, poverty, misery and eventually, the arise of a guy with great speech abilities.
Revealing.
34 Ummmmm. What the fuck is the correlation to this Gift From God??!! Response prediction: Absolute Generalized Dog Shit. 😁
Yup.
I really like how he uses his hands to display what he means.
4:00 very very interesting point of view.
Peterson is a father I never had. But he's just my age😂
Thank you sir, great man. God bless. Depending on how much investment is involved. Because of too much emotional pain, love and attachment. Also because of shame and fear of being rejected, vulnerable and lonely. All part of the the human psyche, human weakness. May the Lord God help us all.
My sister is helping me with royalties, i am very grateful and happy for her, I love my brother and my sister.
My personality demands justice.
Lol
Did you ever do a mistake or Hurt another person? Yes you die.!
Then you should give Justice to The Other person
WE all fail many Times, even every day, Orten WE dont even realize IT.
Jesus Christ IS The judge. WE all will BE judged one day.
I relay on Grace ✝️
Don't suffer too long for that.
Same! No justice no peace!
@@manuelag2128 look, i love Jesus! But not everyone the same, some must resort standing up for on self or fight back in order to gain ones peace.
We are disgusted with ourselves for not doing something about it ? What about NOT being ABLE to do something about. When the wrong doer denies you your voice by disappearing or trying to shut you down or an employer has done an injustice.. What then ? You got no outlet, no recourse.
I have a huge problem with unfair treatment of myself and others.... it like this intense feeling of frustration when there is injustice.... like someone gets away with stealing because they are rich while a poor person gets sent to jail. Or when everyone is doing something and they take one person and use them as example giving out a harsh person to one. Or when a person is rewarded for something that they didn’t earn and weren’t qualified for. Or hypocrisy! OMG! The Hypocrisy! Do what I say but not what I do!!
Wow.2021.Where are we at?...amazing,who knew the world would be here .
Living in California I am developing a consistant feeling of utter discust.
Yea I'm with you
Yeah. I agree. I'm probably going to end up being a hermit. It's easier to do so these days.
Same here. In texas. I plan to leave the country soon
@@rorytennes8576 Where are you going to go? Most countries are socialist now.
I'm not even in California but I understand what you mean! P.S. I'm not sure how I came to this video either! but the utter disgust comment you made is how I feel about London. I'm London born and raised.