Skiing With Better Edging | Using the Retraction Extension Drill
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- Learning to ski with more lateral movement is not easy. It takes practice and knowing what to be feeling and how to recreate those movements using drills. The restriction extension drill is one of my favourites to use and I always ski better after working on it at slow speeds and then building up the terrain and speed. This video is a preview of me using variations of the retraction extension drill in a snow plow and parallel stance. I have a full progression on www.bigpictureskiing.com as well as a real life lesson where I teach skiers just like yourself how to do it and correct their common mistakes. The details are where you will find your breakthrough with this drill and I’ll emphasise again it is not easy to master. It is actually a task I had to do to obtain my Level 4 APSI instructor certificate and its a task many instructors fail as the movements and timing can be so different to how you normally ski. If you feel like trying something new in your skiing and learning how to ski with higher edge angles and utilise the ski design to its full potential check out www.bigpictureskiing.com for full breakdowns on this.
Otherwise use the demos in this video to help your skiing progress. Thanks for watching.
Tom Gellie
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You are at Sun Peaks! I was there Dec 13-17th, 2021 practicing this method on the same piste after 14 months recovering from AML (acute myeloid leukemia). I was looking for you as a matter of fact as I know you frequent this area in the early season. I use this technique all the time. It is absolutely superior to extensions. I find this technique for easier on my hips hip joints. The flow is amazing from turn to turn. Very smooth feeling. It is fun to feel the buildup and release of pressure. I had not been on skis since Feb 2020 when COVID hit. I was diagnosed with acute myeloid leukemia (AML) on Aug 7th 2020 and missed the 2020/21 season. I will be 75 on April 11th. Your drills are amazing. I look forward to seeing more videos. Keep up the great work. Thanks.
Thanks Wayne. Wonderful you are back to skiing again that alone must feel so good!
The other added benefit of this video is that I’ve now added that song to my playlist. Good tune 👍🏼
Watching this video makes me love skiing even more, if that's possible lol. Love the music choice and the vibe, cheers mate! Josh C.
Keep in mind he's on a pretty narrow carving ski that is designed to keep the edges hooked up. Looks like a fun drill though! My skiing has improved leaps and bounds because of Tom's videos so will definitely give this drill a try.
I can absolutely see you feelin your turns 😌
Nicely done my friend.
Predivno, prelijepo, precizno, super! Pozdrav iz Hrvatske.
you need some nice ice patches to show how you deal with them. I live in Sun Valley and thats what I've had to deal with most of the year.
Well done and appreciated, Tom,
Looking forward to the new videos!
Thx 4 great videos. 👍
Very cool❤
Upper body is quiet. I am working on that.
Feet , ankles.( where the magic happens ) tipping inside foot and leg to start the turn.( Wedge is not needed )
I prefer up & forward styl
You should check out Revel Stoke.
I have skied there a few times already but several years ago. Love it
I can't find the full video on BPS. Is it up yet?
Being edited as we speak
Retraction turns are really fun (I've been doing them for years), but they seem to tire my quads quickly. I'm back, obviously, but don't you kind of have to be?
Tom, what exactly is the difference between the the retraction/extension “drill” versus actual skiing? Is it merely that in the drill you’re supposed to stay more compact and minimize the retraction and extension movements versus being more dynamic when actually skiing?
The drill is meant to exaggerate what you feel in normal turns. That’s all. Main reason you use drills is to exaggerate a certain move or feeling
@@Bigpictureskiing IMHO what Tom is showing is the most common technique used by World Cup slalom skiers. Find some videos of Marcel Herscher in the slalom. Look at his flexed (or retracted) legs and butt between turns (unweighting). His outside leg extends from a flexed position to an extended condition controlling the pressure under the outside ski. Inside leg is still flexed with knee driving forward (long leg/short leg). If done correctly the feeling in each turn is amazing. The flow from turn to turn is amazing not matter the size of the turn shape. Alert - Don't get on your heels at transition.
The difference is that rather than extending (standing up) to initiate a turn, you do the opposite and retract (bend knees). Retracting unweights the skiis, making them snappier in the turn. To learn this, start with tight radius turns down the fall line with a little more crouch, then exaggerate your crouch at start of turn. The feel you are looking for is having the skis whip from left to right under you.
Well I tried to find the video on BPS, but it isnt there? Does it need to be uploaded still?
Being edited this week Dave. Been excited to share this new video so check back on the weekend
@@Bigpictureskiing Great, seems I am too impatient :) And seems you are very fast, it's online today already :)
I'll be in the snow for the next 3 weeks, so I am looking at all your material at Big Picture Skiing to find drills that I think will help me further in my development. I've set out to learn skiing from scratch when I turned 40 in 2019, and although the last 2 years we werent able to ski, it's now full on training to see some progression :) I am curious how far your online training will get me... so far I've discovered a couple of gems I think. Thanks for all your efforts, it's greatly appreciated!
Could you do this, the short turns in this video, on an icy/steep slope? and by icy I mean East Coast icy or man-made snow after few days of freezing temps/similar to race course like conditions. How can the edges carve and bite/dig in and lock on icy steep slopes in a consistent manner, do any of these apply there or should it be modified in some ways?
I have never skied east coast America but Nz and Australia get similar met freeze cycles that create very slick snow. Icy or very firm snow is no different it’s just very good at making your tiny mistakes look huge. And most people don’t realize how much equipment is the biggest factor in skiing in hard snow. I couldnT believe the difference the day I tried a FIS type race ski on icy snow in Solden Austria. I could get so much better grip than my regular carving skis. The construction materials, torsional stiffness, binding plate, binding, boots and ski tune are the most important things you need right to ski ice. This technique would just allow you to rip even bigger angles on that ice just as we see on the WC
@@Bigpictureskiing
Yup, good (and torsionally stiff) SL ski and sharp edges are wonders on ice.
Take a hand tuner, and you may even sharpen half way through the day on the hill.
Torsional stiff stops the edge angle weakening off at tips and tails giving consistent grip along the entire ski.
Stiff longitudinally distributes your weight evenly along the ski ... not just gripping the centre region.
Makes every single part of the edge grip more equally distributing the load and cutting the peak local load.
I love skiing like this, but I'm always afraid traversing this much will lead to a collision with someone coming down fast behind me. It may be their fault but that's small comfort if I'm injured.
I only do this when conditions and the resort are ideal. Quiet and plenty of room. I know we can’t always have that but notice in this video I hardly have anyone else around. In busy places I ski more short turns or go skiing off piste
That’s why Sun Peaks is so great. Awesome terrain and no crowds. 😊
Lot of instructors talking about getting the outside leg out there. Something to fool with.
So what is the retraction-extension drill?
As a side note ... can we get more ski attire that accentuates angulation and inclination in our body movements? Back in the 80's I'd watch these ski videos and the pants legs had bright colored arrows on the shins and sometimes the thighs. So when you angulated, it really popped on video. Tom's car camouflage outfit in this video sort of does it. But I want it bolder, brighter, more angles.
A drill that teaches the movements you will need to use in more dynamic ski turns with more energy.
@@Bigpictureskiing - so do you explain the drill in the video? Or is that explanation on the website?
@@strathoundyes in the full length video on the website. I actually have two videos on this drill. One where I also teach two students the progression and help them through the common problems
@@Bigpictureskiing - ok, will check that out.
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Keep it coming!!! Your content deserves a service like P r o m o S M!!!
HUBERT FINK is rolling into his tomb.
Tom you never started out on 207sl or 215 GS skiis. You learned on Short shaped skies for carving. You never learned to shape your turn by drifting, then applying a short carved a
I actually started out on cross country skis with leather boots.
@@Bigpictureskiing were you CARVING big arc turns with those leather boots and cross country skiis
This is to static for a video.
I did not learn ANYTHING from that video. Waste of time.
Applying a short carved arc. I dont know HOW you breezed through the CSIA to level 3, but something is not right. DONT USE OTHER peoples ideas as your OWN, this is called plagiarism.
Whose idea was it?
@@paulrudd9609 it wasnt Tom the fraud Gellie, he didn't grow up on 205 sl skis, he started on 175, shaped skis and thinks he's some kind of hero.
Way over contrived! Static! Over edged. Don"t need to do that much.
Yep should look that way. The title is
Retraction extension “Drill”
Drills are designed to over do and exaggerate a specific movement or feeling.
Over contrived is in the eye of the beholder. I say it is great technical skiing.