The BEST ITB Setup for BEAMS 3SGE? Compare 4AGE 20V ITBs to Panic Made 52MM ITBS!!

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  • Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024

Комментарии • 38

  • @johnrussakoff
    @johnrussakoff 2 года назад +12

    To confirm, the 4ag throttles you have are silver top. The blacktop have an oblong port shape, the silver top are just round.

  • @seancnln
    @seancnln 2 года назад +2

    Been waiting for this comparison video.. beams engines are the best kept "secret" in the JDM scene

  • @jonathanjefferson5091
    @jonathanjefferson5091 2 года назад

    sweet man my hatch is almost done got a silvertop in already just doing the wiring

  • @Adolcysf
    @Adolcysf 2 года назад +1

    Also the blacktop itbs have a divit in the ports on blacktop throttlee

  • @nunuland69
    @nunuland69 2 года назад

    Awesome comparison video! Panic does it right!

  • @vincesiciliano1979
    @vincesiciliano1979 2 года назад +2

    Just a quick question regarding the dyno numbers. Do you know if that car has any other mods?
    Panic itbs definitely produce better numbers with bigger exhaust headers.
    I wonder what power that engine would be with stock manifold. Considering stock manifold is built very well
    Thanks for the video comparison 👌

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  2 года назад

      Good question! This was with the stock exhaust manifold.

    • @gaborlazar4646
      @gaborlazar4646 Год назад

      I read there is a restriction in the stock exhaust manifold, where the pipes are joined on the inside. Can somebody confirm it? I read it can be corrected and it makes a difference.@@DoctoredGarage

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  Год назад

      I've heard the same thing, but I haven't been able to confirm it.

  • @KrashKan
    @KrashKan Год назад

    How tall is the whole ITB assembly for the panic made? I bought a blacktop beams for my mr2 and I need to know firewall clearance.
    like from the flange to the velocity stack opening

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  Год назад

      From the panic adapter flange to the tip of the velocity stack - just under 6". Measuring straight out from the head to the tip of the stack - the furthest is about 7"

    • @KrashKan
      @KrashKan Год назад

      @@DoctoredGarage thanks man! These should fit alright without having to cut a hole in my firewall. What options are there for filtration for these?

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  Год назад

      No prob! Open stacks ftw! Lol. Last I heard, Panic Made was working on a solution for filtration with them

  • @davegt27
    @davegt27 2 года назад +2

    the size is determined by the size of the actual throttle plate

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  2 года назад

      Well, the Panics are 52mm. No idea what actual size the 4AGE ones are because they neck down ha

  • @Lukefink
    @Lukefink 2 года назад

    Ohhh i need

  • @Chris-fj9ir
    @Chris-fj9ir 2 года назад

    How would this work on a non beams 3sge in an sw20 1990? Thanks... great videos btw

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  2 года назад

      Thanks! I don't think it would. The adapter plate is specific to the blacktop beams intake/head. I'm not sure if there is a similar product for a non beams 3sge.

    • @taykartal6664
      @taykartal6664 Год назад

      hello I have this Panic ITB kit in my sw20, but on a Redtop beams (totally plug and play for this engine) but on a classic 3sge it will not work

  • @murcotguy7804
    @murcotguy7804 2 года назад

    Hey good day what part of the world are you I'm in Jamaica I have a question are you selling the ITB from the 4AGE

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  2 года назад

      I'm in the USA, I'm not currently selling the 4AGE ITBs.

  • @inaNis_
    @inaNis_ Год назад

    I bet a lot of the mid range torque loss is due to the longer stacks on the 4age ITBS. If you could figure out a way to lengthen the stacks on the panic throttles, you would bring back some of that torque in the midrange.

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  Год назад

      I've thought about that too. I don't know much about tuning velocity stack lengths, but it's something I've wanted to try.

    • @inaNis_
      @inaNis_ Год назад

      @@DoctoredGarage basically, shorter = higher RPM torque peak

    • @alexscott9195
      @alexscott9195 Год назад

      Panic is currently developing upgrade stacks + filter kit I believe!

  • @mr.cangieter8758
    @mr.cangieter8758 2 года назад

    If I remember correctly, silvertop are indeed 45mm.
    Blacktop are 48mm.
    Great video and review.

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  2 года назад

      Thanks!

    • @ayyoob16v
      @ayyoob16v 2 года назад +2

      Correct but also incorrect , because one always refers to the throttle blade side size when measuring itbs, so the silvertops are 43mm and the blacktops are 45mm 🤙

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  2 года назад

      What I found is that it depends on who you're talking to lol. The main takeaway that I hope everybody gets is that regardless of what/where you're measuring on the 4AGE ITBs - the panic made ones are larger.

    • @mr.cangieter8758
      @mr.cangieter8758 2 года назад

      @@ayyoob16v agreed.

  • @mrb0bd0balina
    @mrb0bd0balina Год назад +1

    What about the toda itbs?

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  Год назад +1

      That's a good question. They're so rare/expensive that I don't know if they're worth it. I haven't been able to find a single person that runs them.

    • @mrb0bd0balina
      @mrb0bd0balina Год назад

      @@DoctoredGarage Yeah, I don't know anyone either. I guess some people in Japan must be running them. Anyway thanks for the great content! Hoping to get an itb setup in the future.😁

  • @perrybrown32322
    @perrybrown32322 Год назад

    same intro song as Zeke's channel 😂

    • @DoctoredGarage
      @DoctoredGarage  Год назад

      Great minds think alike! What's Zeke's channel?

    • @perrybrown32322
      @perrybrown32322 Год назад

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