Those that covered up and lied for Josh are COMPLICIT and GUILTY of endangering children. PERIOD. Jim Bob and Michele will be held accountable one day. They need to get their act together now and actually protect children and the public from their son.
Personally I think that laws need to be implemented to prosecute anyone who knowingly enables and/or protects anyone preying on minors even if the perpetrator is a minor.
As a psychiatrist, I think it's a sign of deeper pathology in Jim Bob Duggar that he knows his son is guilty, but continues to claim he's not. If he truly believed Josh was innocent, at least you could say he's in denial. But to know he's guilty and still insist it was somebody else who committed the crimes? He's lying. And only a special kind of narcissist lies like that.
I agree. God I puked 🤢 when josh was singing to Anna. What two faced liar. I can’t stand people who lie. Terrible example to set for their kids nd others.
Lori, it’s a vital part in growing up, learning right from wrong and being able to take responsibility of their actions. Males (jb & josh don’t deserve to be called ‘men’ )like jb & josh are constantly told they aren’t responsible for their actions, it’s Satan or the devil to blame, even President Biden 🙄. Or it’s girls & women’s fault since they’re always doing things to attract men or boys. How can males like them not be tempted (abusive) by seeing their shin, a shoulder or worse…catch eyes with a male, winking? Omg, that is like throwing themselves at them 😤 A girl laying in her bed sleeping…how could josh resist s**ally abusing them 😤😤😤 They’re disgusting!
If people like Josh could be reformed, I wouldn't have been harmed as a child as I was. The person who hurt me had hurt others previously and been forced into treatment that obviously didn't work for him. I hope J gets all 40 years he is facing.
Any parents that don't help their own daughters that had been abused by their brother should go to jail! They basically allowed the acts and condone it and that is sick! They should be in the cell next to Josh.
I’ve always found it weird and gross how Michelle and JB go out of there way to grope each other in front of the kids and Michelle says we like to show the kids what they aren’t allowed to to until they are married. Seriously wtf is that all about?
I think the parents should help Josh. I guess my problem is their idea of help. Lying, covering up, fake memory loss not the way to help their son. Michelle and Jim Bob are a HORRIBLE example of Christians.
Dee Thompson, SICK does not begin to describe it. I'm just sorry her so-called husband is going to drag a naive girl and seven children down the drain with her.
I will say this .. one of my In-law did a josh ..and I put his ass in jail !! He got out and continues his crimes .. he is despicable He will be back in jail . No remorse !!!!
@ nickie Hines they always repeat and hopefully he’s still being watched and ends up back in jail-forever. To bad these offenders kept safely away from gen pop and jailhouse justice.
Can't help but think Jim Bob & Michelle didn't think there was much wrong with what Josh was doing. More like they were irritated that others thought it was wrong which forced them to do "something" with him.
Yep, they wouldn't have done a thing if they weren't forced to and EVEN after knowing the videos he was watching and everything else, STILL try to minimize what he did. jboob even made some kind of casual comment about how it was a common problem for peoples sons to have. (Only in THEIR community) They are truly gross people and should not be off the hook for this.
@@rebekahdavis5935 it's appalling that they would claim that. How many of us have sons, nephews, close friends with sons? We know the truth. They make me sick.
This has been a horrific situation with so many victims! All the lies and coverups. Nothing about this family surprises me any more. Justice needs to be served! Thanks, Katie for the updates on this AWFUL situation.
What an excellent idea! Wonder if Josh is allowed to receive mail in jail? All of us could send the text and/or music of the loyalty song to him. Just so he knows we have not forgotten about him...
And why are we still being silent about the fact that these guys do NOT care if their victims are male or female!? Most admit it's the power and thrill and gender doesn't matter at all! Look at those brothers! There are a few who were victims, pretty sure! These parents took the fox out of the henhouse and never thought about the poor ducklings they locked him up with! He had free reign over the boys and nobody is talking about that! Really wish FBI and CPS were looking into the fact this guy had free range access to ALL those kids!
Most P's like Josh have a type. Some like both boys and girls but most like just one or the other. A lot of times it's even more specific like blonde hair etc. No matter what, his brothers should have counseling because he has hurt them at least indirectly.
Vagabond Jane, thank you. I know there’s “p’s” that have select victim profiles, however my father suffered at the hands of a “multi-victim profile p” who attacked him, his brother and sisters. The Duggar parents did not ever care about their children, just how they appeared to the public. I’m a victim from my maternal grandfather. All I can do is pray for the victims, of either gender, that they may heal and the pain stops at this generation. 🙏
@@nicolebradford5407 that could very well be! His parents may have kept that completely mum bc I guess it adds a whole nother poopy layer to it all... so effing sad. I hope one day, the kids all wake each other up and run. They don't need their parents. They don't need Josh.
I think the Duggar’s need to sit down and shut up. This is part of why people quit going to church. It happens over and over and over, just not always famous people and it does get swept under the rug.
@@ihearya5228 I’m truly sorry. I had a dirty old man who couldn’t keep his hands to his nasty self at mine, the preacher and deacons didn’t want to do anything, he was an old man. He was able to drive, live by himself without help. He knew what he was doing.
He did disgusting things that were not reported by family prior to this, yet they had there show on tv like nothing was going on with them. No one is perfect, but please be honest. He needed help long ago.They could not make money if it were revealed.
I can't help but wonder about the other victim from the report saying it was a babysitter or family friend. I wonder if that family was paid off to stay silent.
Jim Bob and Michelle will never take responsibility when it all started because it shows they weren't and didn't raised their children right. The failed. The way they choose to handle it was wrong and now they are paying the price by Josh going to JAIL. Sad thing is Josh hurt many other people in his path that are left dealing with their traumas. Jim Bob and Michelle had a chance to nip it in the bud and failed. I'm sorry there is more things they have failed at that we don't know. But one man does and they will have to answer for all their wrong doings as we all do.
I believe he was born that way Completely messed up! I don’t think there’s anything that can be done to help him. Keep him away from society. I think there’s a lot of secrets in that big house. Sick secrets.
John David said the hardest thing he has ever had to do was tell his big brother that he once looked up to him and wanted to be like him, but he can't do that anymore.
I think Josh parents didn't understand how bad this was. Their hope was it would just go away and Josh would get better after taking a wife. This is such a deep illness not sure he will ever be OK.
The desire may never go away but people can abstain from partaking in cp and sa activities. If it was truly something that they have no control over they could get out of being charged in court. They couldn’t be held accountable. These people make the decision to be involved in those activities every single time they break the law. They’re not powerless they’re just disgusting.
Jim Bob and Michelle is a big liar I believe that just did that to his sister's and who else he did that to they need to own up and take responsibility
One thing that pisses me off about the fundamentalist Christian culture is that they consult people like Bill Gothard and Michael Pearl for advice instead of getting advice from professional experts. To day that they are irresponsible doesn't begin to cover it.
You know, after everything Josh has pulled, I wonder what his reaction would have been if someone had used his kids, his girls for serial exploitation? If his brother or someone else abused them?
idk knowin the little i know about these sort of people… he has a hard time with empathy. so i would not expect he would on the surface be fake about the whole thing. Inside, mayb would not be able to connect to their trauma.
He's broken. Narcissists are very good at mimicking emotions like empathy and crying on cue, but they lack empathy and they are fundamentally broken. Any sociopath who can prey on children/infants is fundamentally broken.
For all any one knows: Accessing the level of what Josh downloading; reciprocating new upload material expected if not demanded. Perverse way of insuring the participant Not LEO.
JimBob, Michelle, who touched Josh? Are you protecting him now because you didn’t protect him back then? People don’t wake up one day and do the things Josh has done without first being victimized! If you would have got him help back then he may not be in the situation he’s currently in.
Funny (seeing pic of JB and Michelle here) that they are so very strict about the girls dress but they all wear make up!?!? Misdirection, deceit, confusion and out and out lies. This is a real Christian way to conduct your lives and grow your family, grrr 🤢
The more I learn about JB and Michelle, the less respect I have for them. The fact that they kept the whole ugly mess with Josh's awful behavior was kept from Anna and her parents is unforgivable. However, the truth is coming and that is always a blessing. Thanks again for your amazing reporting, Katie!
I feel like they forced their children to adult other children while being a child. I don't feel like Josh should be a surprise. He is the product of their creation/cult thinking.
I think Jim deep down believes boys will be boys and is so proud of Josh. Josh is prevy, and in part I do believe Jim is a sexist and prevy towards Michelle. It doesn't surprise me that they lie.
Like when b Jim and Michelle went on a vacation yrs ago when an interviewer asked on tv what they were doing and he said "working on another one"Michelle slapped his leg,she was so embarrassed!!I think that was pervy comment
@@amandastilwell5352 I heard it more in his voice myself. It's like he's just saying words without any true emotion or feeling to them. Some of the other family members do that sometimes, but Josh did it every time.
Not surprised at all. I still think that Jim Bob needs to be held accountable. If he had stepped up at the beginning less people would have been hurt. Given all these new tips that have come to light, is there no way the authorities could go after Jim Bob?
I remember watching a Duggar special in the very early days and they mentioned that their “oldest child” was away and that they hoped he would come back to join the family. It was clear it was like a behavioral issue. I wish I could hunt down this clip!
I always got bad vibes from Josh. He always came across as so sanctimonious and holier than thou. I was not surprised when the dirt came out about him but was so sad for his sisters. Jim Bob has always been about appearances and seemed only interested in money. It’s a sad situation all around.
That intro with Josh singing that “loyalty” song makes me want to puke 🤮 he’s the most disgusting hypocrite alive. If cringe is in the dictionary now, it has a pic of that moment 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
My best April Fool's joke was bringing a box of donuts into my office and leaving them out with a sign that said Happy April Fool's Day! It was hilarious 💖
I can see where parents would be discreet when dealing with their children. Unfortunately, the Duggars agreed to a reality show that put their children on display to the entire world and the parents were pretty much professing perfection. What’s the expression? “Pride cometh before the fall.”
Not at all surprised. I still feel like someone may have done something to him as a child cause many child abusers have that in their past. I would not even be surprised to find out that Jim Bob maybe did something to him early on.
WTF??? Josh was struggling…poor Josh he was struggling but the girl’s weren’t….REALLY??? it’s friggin INSANE!!! EVERYTHING is absolutely Josh and it pisses me off!!!
Hmmm, seems like JD's comments about loyalty in marriage aged as well as leftover potato salad from the 4th of July left out on the picnic table until the 7th during a heatwave in Arizona.
@@crazymusicchick , indeed. The hottest recorded temperature in Phoenix, Arizona was in June of 1990 when it reached 50 degrees Celsius (122 degrees Fahrenheit). Occasionally it will get close to the record, though.
@@TheJleliot yes that's where they've screwed up BIG time. Secret sins ALWAYS come to light. The reason sooo many people are angry is because of the hypocrisy!
I feel bad for the duggar kids!Jimmy boy and Shelley pooh should be ashamed of themselves!!! Christians DO NOT lie and deceive and raise their family behind the name of Jesus Christ! Poor parenting and again,the duggar kids didnt know any different and believed the misdirection of their parents!!
I hope they start to see the truth over the coming years and start forging their own paths forward. You can have a HEALTHY relationship with God, without all those man-made "rules"!
I feel like he did because the way he told her was so weird. Like years later he told bobye way more details that he didn’t need to tell her and called a sister a snitch in a negative tone so it was obvious he wasn’t telling her out of remorse and it makes me wonder why he told her ? Did he get off on that? Sick
Anna, and her family, knew she wasn’t going to get a better opportunity to find a husband. She brought little to the table, other than being a willing and submissive broodmare. I doubt that there were any dudes knocking at the door wanting to date her, so in comes big-headed Josh, and they all jump on that chance. Josh gets his powerless, dutiful, and long-suffering baby incubator and Anna gets welcomed into the cult. The whole cult is disgusting and they deserve each other.
How to turn a few positive behaviours into the world of Duggar Consistent =consistent liars Confident = confident no one will find out what really happened Christian = hides a cult behind a religion I could go on but most of us are all already totally aware of what these people are like.
The county should have redacted the minor victims names. They are still having to pay and they did nothing wrong. They sadly will carry this burden for the rest of their lives. Jill, through her very supportive husband, has gotten real counseling and may someday feel whole again. I am so happy for her and Derrick. Are there any more major courtship news. Jason, James, Jackson... do the Duggar boys have to do the 165 questionnaire ?
One thing I’ve always wondered about…..not much has ever been said about JB’s father, or their relationship. I thought somewhere I heard or read that he was not a very nice man. Maybe things were done to JB by his dad, that were covered up and lied about. Maybe JB perpetrated those same things with Josh, and again silenced, and thus the chain of secrecy was passed down among the generations. IF this is true, let us hope it never reached Josh’s Sons. Just something I’d be curious to know, not anything I have facts about.
KATIE: So how old was Josh the first time he went away and what was it for? The family friend was about 7 so was Josh roughly 10? Was he sent away at that young of an age for molesting his sisters? This is fascinating, disturbing and insane, if it goes *that* far back! I can't wait for the documentary & I really hope they're thorough & dig into ALL of this!!!
you know whats really really sad? him confessing to people out of the family means he was asking for help. Help he never ever got. None of those kids got any help for any of this. He's right where he belongs now. However its possible he could have had a different life, had he gotten help as a child.
At this point, it’s not likely that he can stop this now. The recidivism (repeat) rate of this happening again is almost 100%. The recovery rate is less than 1%. Had he been helped as a child, he might not be where he is today…
Our family loves to laugh, joke, and have fun but no pranks, just not our thing. I can say it would have taken every bit of restraint with my crew not to bust out laughing during that Loyalty Song. I wonder if Josh had gotten proper help when he was young through out his years if he could have been helped…could his life had turned out differently? I don’t know the answer.
I’m not surprised. My brother molested me and I asked my family to keep it private. The only people who know of my history is the police, my parents, my siblings and I think my siblings’ spouses.
@@dagmarde1101 He did. He went to a special school for boys(not far thankfully) who have those issues and he took his help very seriously. Since he wasn’t far, we were able to work together as a family on our issues and then he also served in the Air Force. So I personally feel in my heart that he has redeemed himself and I have forgiven him and told him that. He is much older than me and I really look up to him. He has kids now so I visit them often to spoil them :)
I remember seeing a random forum in 2008/2009 where someone shared that the Duggars had been invited to Oprah but someone had called her team with an anonymous tip about Josh’s behavior. I never saw it anywhere else but when the InTouch article came out and everyone was shocked, I remember feeling that whatever forum that was (couldn’t tell you and definitely couldn’t find it now) was right.
I really HATE JOSH AND WHAT HE DID! But in what world does it make sense that the Duggars would tell everyone what Josh did to his sisters? I don't blame them for not telling the whole world, but they should have never been hypothetical and appeared on TV portraying something else.
Of course some people were told about Josh's sins and others weren't. No family goes around blabbing about their problems to everyone in sight. No family is an open book. While I don't like Jim and Michelle's actions or decisions, I do understand that many people do things to try and protect their family's reputation.
I grew up homeschooled with an introvert mother and mentally I’ll and abusive father. (My mom was exhausted just trying to play damage control from my dad). So in my family, if something horrible happened only our family knew! The rest of the world was far far far away!! With my experience I’m kind of surprised that friends or family of the Duggars knew things were going on! I guess I didn’t really realize that…
Josh was(is) a media hound who wants to be a spokesperson and JB and M, knowing what he had done, allowed this to continue. Anna craves the media attention as well and knew what she was getting into.
And hanks to the judge it's going to go over his year arrest mark before he gets sentences. Totally tried of Josh getting told yes all the time. Wasn't the judge who said he didn't went this dragged out?
Is anyone really surprised..they lied .lied and lied again..they unleashed an animal in his younger sisters..and who knows who else that didn't ever tell from shame .or was friends with the Duggers and didn't want to be accused of defrauding him..because they played hide and seek..or some childish game .so not surprised..they do that well .lie..and protect Josh .
After hearing this, it baffles me that Anna could know some of these things & STILL be intimate with him. I hope she comes out of the spell some day lest she be counted as guilty & complicit as Josh.
Childhood is tough. Please tell him he can make his adulthood better. For the next few years, create a different way to celebrate that you are so glad he was born and so glad he is in your life and that he is valuable to this world.
I’m so sorry for him. In your childhood your birthday should always be special. Unfortunately his whole life he will have that one “friend” who will think it’s funny to make fun of his April 1 birthday.
The “loyalty song” sung by one of the most disloyal immoral men. What an amazing display of irony and hypocrisy.
That loyalty was just words to Josh and nothing else
SICKENING!!!!
How does a person send his 'loyalty song' to the judge on his case?
@@lisag4967 total.y agree
@@lisag4967 sounds like a good Idea
Those that covered up and lied for Josh are COMPLICIT and GUILTY of endangering children. PERIOD. Jim Bob and Michele will be held accountable one day. They need to get their act together now and actually protect children and the public from their son.
Who’s going to hold them accountable?
Personally I think that laws need to be implemented to prosecute anyone who knowingly enables and/or protects anyone preying on minors even if the perpetrator is a minor.
As a psychiatrist, I think it's a sign of deeper pathology in Jim Bob Duggar that he knows his son is guilty, but continues to claim he's not. If he truly believed Josh was innocent, at least you could say he's in denial. But to know he's guilty and still insist it was somebody else who committed the crimes? He's lying. And only a special kind of narcissist lies like that.
Absolutely!!
OR Someone with their own issues. Was Josh abused when he was little?
I have no words to express my disdain for these people. I live my kids, but I haven't covered up their mistakes. Your choices have consequences.
You did the right thing IMHO.
I agree. God I puked 🤢 when josh was singing to Anna. What two faced liar. I can’t stand people who lie. Terrible example to set for their kids nd others.
Lori, it’s a vital part in growing up, learning right from wrong and being able to take responsibility of their actions. Males (jb & josh don’t deserve to be called ‘men’ )like jb & josh are constantly told they aren’t responsible for their actions, it’s Satan or the devil to blame, even President Biden 🙄. Or it’s girls & women’s fault since they’re always doing things to attract men or boys. How can males like them not be tempted (abusive) by seeing their shin, a shoulder or worse…catch eyes with a male, winking? Omg, that is like throwing themselves at them 😤
A girl laying in her bed sleeping…how could josh resist s**ally abusing them 😤😤😤
They’re disgusting!
@@sharonbrown6595 he will get his one day. You reap what you sow.
@@jonibrown4427 yes, but you can do a lot of damage & suffering in the meantime! The sooner the better!
Jim Bob AND Michelle are disgusting! I feel SO bad for the girls that the parents protected Josh over them!!! They deserved MUCH better!!! 😢
They are beyond disgusting!
Jim Bob's nose is beyond the place where it can be surgically docked!🙄🙄
I agree with you Tammy
If people like Josh could be reformed, I wouldn't have been harmed as a child as I was. The person who hurt me had hurt others previously and been forced into treatment that obviously didn't work for him. I hope J gets all 40 years he is facing.
I'm very sorry that you were hurt as a child.
Sending healing prayers and hugs.
I am SO sorry!!! 😞
Thanks for your kind words. The person was in prison finally.
I'm very sorry for your experience. I wish you love and healing light.
Michelle and Jimbob are responsible for Josh's behavior and should be in prison with him. He hurt so many people including hi sisters!!!
Any parents that don't help their own daughters that had been abused by their brother should go to jail! They basically allowed the acts and condone it and that is sick! They should be in the cell next to Josh.
Agree. My mom and her family, protect ed her brother, until she died at 65.
Josh is such a narcissist! He had to have all eyes on him at the wedding so he sang a song of loyalty???? The LEAST loyal Duggar!!!
THAT WAS JOSH SINGING, TO ANNA??
@@foofookachoo1136 Yes. That was Josh singing to Anna! 🤪😂🤪😂
I’ve always found it weird and gross how Michelle and JB go out of there way to grope each other in front of the kids and Michelle says we like to show the kids what they aren’t allowed to to until they are married. Seriously wtf is that all about?
👀 It's about they're crazy.
Not a good example for the children
There were people not connected to the Duggars who knew about it! The grandmother of the other victim told people!
His parents are still trying to help him. Sick. Let him face his consequences
I think the parents should help Josh. I guess my problem is their idea of help. Lying, covering up, fake memory loss not the way to help their son. Michelle and Jim Bob are a HORRIBLE example of Christians.
Dee Thompson, SICK does not begin to describe it. I'm just sorry her so-called husband is going to drag a naive girl and seven children down the drain with her.
He is a damaged human being . I don’t think he should ever be set free . As it’s not treatable.
Gggggoooddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I totally agree
He is not treatable they are set in their sick behavior no empathy
It’s inhuman like
I will say this .. one of my
In-law did a josh ..and I put his ass in jail !!
He got out and continues his crimes .. he is despicable
He will be back in jail .
No remorse !!!!
@ nickie Hines they always repeat and hopefully he’s still being watched and ends up back in jail-forever. To bad these offenders kept safely away from gen pop and jailhouse justice.
Can't help but think Jim Bob & Michelle didn't think there was much wrong with what Josh was doing.
More like they were irritated that others thought it was wrong which forced them to do "something" with him.
Exactly! Covering up for Joshy boy and lying for Joshy gives the impression Michelle and old Jimbo don't think Josh did anything wrong. IMO
My thoughts exactly...
Yep, they wouldn't have done a thing if they weren't forced to and EVEN after knowing the videos he was watching and everything else, STILL try to minimize what he did. jboob even made some kind of casual comment about how it was a common problem for peoples sons to have. (Only in THEIR community) They are truly gross people and should not be off the hook for this.
@@rebekahdavis5935 it's appalling that they would claim that. How many of us have sons, nephews, close friends with sons? We know the truth. They make me sick.
This has been a horrific situation with so many victims! All the lies and coverups. Nothing about this family surprises me any more. Justice needs to be served! Thanks, Katie for the updates on this AWFUL situation.
Glad to have you back. Family always comes first, but you were missed.
I never missed you .very annoying
Josh should be forced to listen to that “loyalty” song 24 hours a day for the next 20 years! That song makes my skin crawl. 😖
I had to fast forward through it.
Only if it's his stupid voice singing it on his wedding day! Barf!
What is the name of the loyalty song. Just want to look it up for research.
no he should be forced to sing it to bubba!
What an excellent idea! Wonder if Josh is allowed to receive mail in jail? All of us could send the text and/or music of the loyalty song to him. Just so he knows we have not forgotten about him...
And why are we still being silent about the fact that these guys do NOT care if their victims are male or female!? Most admit it's the power and thrill and gender doesn't matter at all! Look at those brothers! There are a few who were victims, pretty sure! These parents took the fox out of the henhouse and never thought about the poor ducklings they locked him up with! He had free reign over the boys and nobody is talking about that! Really wish FBI and CPS were looking into the fact this guy had free range access to ALL those kids!
Most P's like Josh have a type. Some like both boys and girls but most like just one or the other. A lot of times it's even more specific like blonde hair etc. No matter what, his brothers should have counseling because he has hurt them at least indirectly.
Vagabond Jane, thank you. I know there’s “p’s” that have select victim profiles, however my father suffered at the hands of a “multi-victim profile p” who attacked him, his brother and sisters. The Duggar parents did not ever care about their children, just how they appeared to the public. I’m a victim from my maternal grandfather. All I can do is pray for the victims, of either gender, that they may heal and the pain stops at this generation. 🙏
If I recall correctly, some of the "content" he had in his possession had boys too. I'm with you.
😳wonder if maybe boys were better at being silenced than the girls?
@@nicolebradford5407 that could very well be! His parents may have kept that completely mum bc I guess it adds a whole nother poopy layer to it all... so effing sad. I hope one day, the kids all wake each other up and run. They don't need their parents. They don't need Josh.
I think the Duggar’s need to sit down and shut up. This is part of why people quit going to church. It happens over and over and over, just not always famous people and it does get swept under the rug.
Oh no honey never that don't happen at my little church they're all saints
....please same little church I was taken advantage of by a decon
@@ihearya5228 I’m truly sorry. I had a dirty old man who couldn’t keep his hands to his nasty self at mine, the preacher and deacons didn’t want to do anything, he was an old man. He was able to drive, live by himself without help. He knew what he was doing.
Makes me wonder what else they are hiding. Did any of the other kids get into trouble and it was “covered up”.
He did disgusting things that were not reported by family prior to this, yet they had there show on tv like nothing was going on with them. No one is perfect, but please be honest. He needed help long ago.They could not make money if it were revealed.
What else are the parents covering up about the other kids
I can't help but wonder about the other victim from the report saying it was a babysitter or family friend. I wonder if that family was paid off to stay silent.
Oh the Loyalty Song. That never gets old.
My poor ears will never un hear that 😭
Best April fools ever 💖🙌💎😆
😂😂
Almost like pedo was warning her.
@@micheleengel3428 😂😂😂
Not sure what's worse: The sight of the Duggar Doughboy, or the sound of the Duggar Doughboy? Either way gag me with a TATER-TOT.
"gag me with a tater-tot" LOLL perfect
I wonder what all josh has done that he hasn’t been caught for?!? Smdh
How'd that Loyalty Song work out for you, Josh!??
🤭
Great. She's still loyal and believing his lies.
Josh looks stoned in his mugshot. That’s a shame the two baby makers let that happened to their daughters.
Stoned and smug.
Jim Bob and Michelle will never take responsibility when it all started because it shows they weren't and didn't raised their children right. The failed. The way they choose to handle it was wrong and now they are paying the price by Josh going to JAIL. Sad thing is Josh hurt many other people in his path that are left dealing with their traumas. Jim Bob and Michelle had a chance to nip it in the bud and failed. I'm sorry there is more things they have failed at that we don't know. But one man does and they will have to answer for all their wrong doings as we all do.
Hope your little one is feeling better. Sending lots of hugs and well wishes.
He needed true counseling. Those others could help, not alone. None of them thought of the girls and helping them.
Counseling won’t help. It never does. It is what it is!
Josh needs a psychiatrist
I believe he was born that way Completely messed up! I don’t think there’s anything that can be done to help him. Keep him away from society. I think there’s a lot of secrets in that big house. Sick secrets.
Does anyone else cringe when a Duggar uses the word special? Now that Josh was found guilty, I hear him say it and my skin crawls!
John David said the hardest thing he has ever had to do was tell his big brother that he once looked up to him and wanted to be like him, but he can't do that anymore.
Eww yesss lol
I think Josh parents didn't understand how bad this was. Their hope was it would just go away and Josh would get better after taking a wife. This is such a deep illness not sure he will ever be OK.
I think you may be right.
This CAN'T be cured.
The desire may never go away but people can abstain from partaking in cp and sa activities. If it was truly something that they have no control over they could get out of being charged in court. They couldn’t be held accountable. These people make the decision to be involved in those activities every single time they break the law. They’re not powerless they’re just disgusting.
I agree!! I think they just thought, and prayed that it would most likely go away!!
Jim Bob and Michelle is a big liar I believe that just did that to his sister's and who else he did that to they need to own up and take responsibility
We probably don't even don't know how many girls he SA'd
As a follow-up, I wonder how many people they paid off for their silence.
There are other SAs we don't know about, and from other creepers within that family, for sure!
One thing that pisses me off about the fundamentalist Christian culture is that they consult people like Bill Gothard and Michael Pearl for advice instead of getting advice from professional experts. To day that they are irresponsible doesn't begin to cover it.
You know, after everything Josh has pulled, I wonder what his reaction would have been if someone had used his kids, his girls for serial exploitation? If his brother or someone else abused them?
idk knowin the little i know about these sort of people… he has a hard time with empathy. so i would not expect he would on the surface be fake about the whole thing. Inside, mayb would not be able to connect to their trauma.
He's broken. Narcissists are very good at mimicking emotions like empathy and crying on cue, but they lack empathy and they are fundamentally broken. Any sociopath who can prey on children/infants is fundamentally broken.
For all any one knows: Accessing the level of what Josh downloading; reciprocating new upload material expected if not demanded. Perverse way of insuring the participant Not LEO.
JimBob, Michelle, who touched Josh? Are you protecting him now because you didn’t protect him back then? People don’t wake up one day and do the things Josh has done without first being victimized! If you would have got him help back then he may not be in the situation he’s currently in.
Hope your little boy is doing better. Happy Friday and have a great weekend
Funny (seeing pic of JB and Michelle here) that they are so very strict about the girls dress but they all wear make up!?!?
Misdirection, deceit, confusion and out and out lies. This is a real Christian way to conduct your lives and grow your family, grrr 🤢
The Duggars, and their ilk, give REAL CHRISTIANS a bad name.
I thought the same thing!
The more I learn about JB and Michelle, the less respect I have for them.
The fact that they kept the whole ugly mess with Josh's awful behavior was kept from Anna and her parents is unforgivable.
However, the truth is coming and that is always a blessing.
Thanks again for your amazing reporting, Katie!
I feel like they forced their children to adult other children while being a child. I don't feel like Josh should be a surprise. He is the product of their creation/cult thinking.
🤣 -i’m sorry - I had to stop the video LOL just to comment “ 🎶 “ things may seem hopeless…” 🎶 🤣 😂
-OK back to the video-
I think Jim deep down believes boys will be boys and is so proud of Josh. Josh is prevy, and in part I do believe Jim is a sexist and prevy towards Michelle. It doesn't surprise me that they lie.
Josh is very PERVY.
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Jim and Michelle went on a vacation yrs ago when an interviewer asked on tv what they were doing and he said "working on another one"Michelle slapped his leg,she was so embarrassed!!I think that was pervy comment
I remember thinking how insincere Josh came across way back when. Sure enough, he was just saying words that really meant nothing to him. 🤮
I think it's his dead eyes. Seems like the kind of person who is one way for the public/cameras, and completely different otherwise.
@@amandastilwell5352 I heard it more in his voice myself. It's like he's just saying words without any true emotion or feeling to them. Some of the other family members do that sometimes, but Josh did it every time.
I remember feeling the same and wanted to throw up even though we didn’t know about him yet. Just cringy.
@@VioletJoy Yes, I think you are right!
The stuff coming out about the sisters is what I call that Devine intervention, God works in mysterious ways
Boy that line “Things may seem hopeless…” is kinda coming to fruition. 😬
Not surprised at all. I still think that Jim Bob needs to be held accountable. If he had stepped up at the beginning less people would have been hurt. Given all these new tips that have come to light, is there no way the authorities could go after Jim Bob?
I remember watching a Duggar special in the very early days and they mentioned that their “oldest child” was away and that they hoped he would come back to join the family. It was clear it was like a behavioral issue. I wish I could hunt down this clip!
That was 14 Children and Pregnant Again. Look up that first show.
@@christinan.6117 Thank you 🙂
Aw😩katie love you but you just made us listen to josh sing again. Had to mute. 😂
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I always got bad vibes from Josh. He always came across as so sanctimonious and holier than thou. I was not surprised when the dirt came out about him but was so sad for his sisters. Jim Bob has always been about appearances and seemed only interested in money. It’s a sad situation all around.
That intro with Josh singing that “loyalty” song makes me want to puke 🤮 he’s the most disgusting hypocrite alive. If cringe is in the dictionary now, it has a pic of that moment 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
My best April Fool's joke was bringing a box of donuts into my office and leaving them out with a sign that said Happy April Fool's Day!
It was hilarious 💖
I don’t get it, were there donuts in the box? Or was it empty?
I missing something where a Afraid to eat them family
Ha! That's hilarious! There's a lady here that took her church youth group caroling to senior citizens.
Because it made people afraidTo eat them
I can see where parents would be discreet when dealing with their children. Unfortunately, the Duggars agreed to a reality show that put their children on display to the entire world and the parents were pretty much professing perfection. What’s the expression? “Pride cometh before the fall.”
What a creep
I absolutely don't do April foolish..
Not at all surprised. I still feel like someone may have done something to him as a child cause many child abusers have that in their past. I would not even be surprised to find out that Jim Bob maybe did something to him early on.
WTF??? Josh was struggling…poor Josh he was struggling but the girl’s weren’t….REALLY??? it’s friggin INSANE!!!
EVERYTHING is absolutely Josh and it pisses me off!!!
Omg if the person I was marrying sang to me like that during the ceremony. I'd be stuck on the floor laughing 🤣
Hmmm, seems like JD's comments about loyalty in marriage aged as well as leftover potato salad from the 4th of July left out on the picnic table until the 7th during a heatwave in Arizona.
🤣 I'm guessing Arizona theat wave are similar to my Aussie summer
@@crazymusicchick , indeed. The hottest recorded temperature in Phoenix, Arizona was in June of 1990 when it reached 50 degrees Celsius (122 degrees Fahrenheit). Occasionally it will get close to the record, though.
@@ladyv5655 yep this summer north of were I am got to 49.9 c lol were I am got to 44c Xmas day so pretty close
Bottom line is Christians should not ever have this many "secrets" in one family like this 😢.
It will never be a secret because God See's everything. One day they'll have to explain themselves
@@TheJleliot yes that's where they've screwed up BIG time. Secret sins ALWAYS come to light. The reason sooo many people are angry is because of the hypocrisy!
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@@NaseriFamJam huh?
My dad would call them Sunday Christians but Saturday sinners... they loudly profess their purity and holiness but in reality are quite filthy.
I feel bad for the duggar kids!Jimmy boy and Shelley pooh should be ashamed of themselves!!! Christians DO NOT lie and deceive and raise their family behind the name of Jesus Christ! Poor parenting and again,the duggar kids didnt know any different and believed the misdirection of their parents!!
I hope they start to see the truth over the coming years and start forging their own paths forward. You can have a HEALTHY relationship with God, without all those man-made "rules"!
Yes the Duggar kids need to break the abusive behavior that they were brought up with.
Sitting by himself in a room all by himself...perfect...he can only 'touch' himself
Gag
We all know how smug Josh is. I’ve wondered if he actually enjoyed “confessing” to Bobbye Holt.
I feel like he did because the way he told her was so weird. Like years later he told bobye way more details that he didn’t need to tell her and called a sister a snitch in a negative tone so it was obvious he wasn’t telling her out of remorse and it makes me wonder why he told her ? Did he get off on that? Sick
There were rumors of Joshy's misuse of his sisters all over the Internet. Television Without Pity has had that rumor for years and years.
Anna, and her family, knew she wasn’t going to get a better opportunity to find a husband. She brought little to the table, other than being a willing and submissive broodmare. I doubt that there were any dudes knocking at the door wanting to date her, so in comes big-headed Josh, and they all jump on that chance. Josh gets his powerless, dutiful, and long-suffering baby incubator and Anna gets welcomed into the cult. The whole cult is disgusting and they deserve each other.
Candy, I couldn't have said it better!
How to turn a few positive behaviours into the world of Duggar
Consistent =consistent liars
Confident = confident no one will find out what really happened
Christian = hides a cult behind a religion
I could go on but most of us are all already totally aware of what these people are like.
The county should have redacted the minor victims names. They are still having to pay and they did nothing wrong. They sadly will carry this burden for the rest of their lives. Jill, through her very supportive husband, has gotten real counseling and may someday feel whole again. I am so happy for her and Derrick. Are there any more major courtship news. Jason, James, Jackson... do the Duggar boys have to do the 165 questionnaire ?
there were no minor victims names in the report
I’m wondering how much the Bates knew?
Oh I think Gil
and Kelly Jo knew enough to keep their girls away from him. Is this why Joseph and Carlin did not work out?
One thing I’ve always wondered about…..not much has ever been said about JB’s father, or their relationship. I thought somewhere I heard or read that he was not a very nice man. Maybe things were done to JB by his dad, that were covered up and lied about. Maybe JB perpetrated those same things with Josh, and again silenced, and thus the chain of secrecy was passed down among the generations. IF this is true, let us hope it never reached Josh’s Sons. Just something I’d be curious to know, not anything I have facts about.
How do we arrange for Josh’s rendition of the “loyalty song” to be played on repeat in his cell?
KATIE: So how old was Josh the first time he went away and what was it for? The family friend was about 7 so was Josh roughly 10? Was he sent away at that young of an age for molesting his sisters? This is fascinating, disturbing and insane, if it goes *that* far back! I can't wait for the documentary & I really hope they're thorough & dig into ALL of this!!!
I’ve only followed you for several months but Jim Bob & Michelle lying is not new. As someone else said, what else are they lying about?
That loyalty song has scarred me for life ever since I heard it watching that episode 🤣🤣🤣
Can you possibly interviewed Kaleb Williams to tell his side of the story. I would be so upset if someone was trying to ruin my reputation.
you know whats really really sad? him confessing to people out of the family means he was asking for help. Help he never ever got. None of those kids got any help for any of this. He's right where he belongs now. However its possible he could have had a different life, had he gotten help as a child.
At this point, it’s not likely that he can stop this now. The recidivism (repeat) rate of this happening again is almost 100%. The recovery rate is less than 1%. Had he been helped as a child, he might not be where he is today…
@@boething exactly!
Our family loves to laugh, joke, and have fun but no pranks, just not our thing. I can say it would have taken every bit of restraint with my crew not to bust out laughing during that Loyalty Song.
I wonder if Josh had gotten proper help when he was young through out his years if he could have been helped…could his life had turned out differently? I don’t know the answer.
I think I remember hearing that yes, if he'd had actual therapy this could have been prevented. Not sure but maybe Katey has said this?
Pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated.
I’m not surprised. My brother molested me and I asked my family to keep it private. The only people who know of my history is the police, my parents, my siblings and I think my siblings’ spouses.
I hope he has to lay the consequences.
@@dagmarde1101 He did. He went to a special school for boys(not far thankfully) who have those issues and he took his help very seriously. Since he wasn’t far, we were able to work together as a family on our issues and then he also served in the Air Force. So I personally feel in my heart that he has redeemed himself and I have forgiven him and told him that. He is much older than me and I really look up to him. He has kids now so I visit them often to spoil them :)
“Things may seem hopeless…” - truer words…
I remember seeing a random forum in 2008/2009 where someone shared that the Duggars had been invited to Oprah but someone had called her team with an anonymous tip about Josh’s behavior. I never saw it anywhere else but when the InTouch article came out and everyone was shocked, I remember feeling that whatever forum that was (couldn’t tell you and definitely couldn’t find it now) was right.
Probably should not have started eating before watching this - felt my stomach sickly churning when Josh was talking about "loyalty in marriage".
I really HATE JOSH AND WHAT HE DID! But in what world does it make sense that the Duggars would tell everyone what Josh did to his sisters?
I don't blame them for not telling the whole world, but they should have never been hypothetical and appeared on TV portraying something else.
Michael Pearl actually got something right.
I disagree that you don't know if pedos really have that attraction until their 30s.
Him talking and singing about being loyal 🤢🤢 so cringy
Hey Katie, it's time for you to check Josh's phone records again.
Yes! Katie, please do so!
Of course some people were told about Josh's sins and others weren't. No family goes around blabbing about their problems to everyone in sight. No family is an open book. While I don't like Jim and Michelle's actions or decisions, I do understand that many people do things to try and protect their family's reputation.
Nothing about this family surprises me anymore.
Ana needs to write a book, get paid, and get out!
I grew up homeschooled with an introvert mother and mentally I’ll and abusive father. (My mom was exhausted just trying to play damage control from my dad). So in my family, if something horrible happened only our family knew! The rest of the world was far far far away!! With my experience I’m kind of surprised that friends or family of the Duggars knew things were going on! I guess I didn’t really realize that…
Josh was(is) a media hound who wants to be a spokesperson and JB and M, knowing what he had done, allowed this to continue. Anna craves the media attention as well and knew what she was getting into.
And hanks to the judge it's going to go over his year arrest mark before he gets sentences. Totally tried of Josh getting told yes all the time. Wasn't the judge who said he didn't went this dragged out?
The Indianapolis Training Center was the subject of Tom Cochran's award-winning documentary/news coverage. OH Joshy! And NO ONE called CPS!
can Mr Williams sue Josh Duggar for these false accusations ?????
That would be awesome if Caleb would do that!
just plain sickos.🤮👿
Is anyone really surprised..they lied .lied and lied again..they unleashed an animal in his younger sisters..and who knows who else that didn't ever tell from shame .or was friends with the Duggers and didn't want to be accused of defrauding him..because they played hide and seek..or some childish game .so not surprised..they do that well .lie..and protect Josh .
After hearing this, it baffles me that Anna could know some of these things & STILL be intimate with him. I hope she comes out of the spell some day lest she be counted as guilty & complicit as Josh.
She has been conditioned to believe that she has no choice about whether to be intimate with her husband.
Can you tell us about Michelle Duggars side of the family. I never heard about any of them through the years being involved with family get togethers.
It’s my son’s birthday and growing up, his friends made it unpleasant so he won’t celebrate it.
Wow that's so sad. I'm sorry for your son 😢.
They don’t sound like “friends”.
Childhood is tough. Please tell him he can make his adulthood better. For the next few years, create a different way to celebrate that you are so glad he was born and so glad he is in your life and that he is valuable to this world.
I’m so sorry for him. In your childhood your birthday should always be special. Unfortunately his whole life he will have that one “friend” who will think it’s funny to make fun of his April 1 birthday.
It's just nasty upon more Duggar nasty. Time for sentencing then forgetting Duggar bull hit.
Well that loyalty song aged like milk...
Hearing josh talk about loyalty makes me sick. And he's so smug when he says it.
enable captioning please.... thank you.