Dispite negative comments through some of your videos, your ability to deal with them and spin them into a positive is admirable. It was your assembly video that made me reach out to George and place an order... Thanks for your time and efforts. Cheers
Hey Dave, Thank you for your positive comments! You are going to love this grinder to say the least, I use mine all the time on many different projects, it runs and preforms like no other! George is a great guy and I have keep in touch with him since I bought my grinder. Thanks for tuning in and enjoy your new grinder once you get it! Best Regards, Ray
That ledge kit is really cool! I welded mine on. How proud is your platen from the idler wheels at 18:09 ? Is it perfectly in line or proud just a little? I just installed a ceramic glass platen on my 2x72 and it made all the difference. I used 3M tape though. Thanks for your video.
JKeetonKnives I ended up putting a straight edge on the idler wheels and brought the platen flush to the straight edge, so straight in line with the idler wheels.
@@RaysGarage Thanks for adding this update, I was wondering. Also, does your grinder get a lot of use... how many hours per week for example? A very clever modification/improvement!
Hi Ray, what an awesome piece of kit. As you said it's superbly balanced and manufactured, like back in the day when shit was built to last and 'throw away' society was unheard of. Thanks for sharing. Kindest regards. Joe.
Hey Joe, You are spot on man, this is a very well built Ohio, USA made machine by guys that care a lot about the product they are turning out and it shows in both quality and appearance! Thanks for tuning in!
Hey Doug, Northridge Tool has this grinder very well thought out and using the glass also helps the belts run smoother and cooler. Thanks for dropping in!
Nice job Ray! Since glass has a very low friction coefficient that should last you a long time. Hopefully, the edges of the glass plate were rounded so that they won't wear out the belt backing prematurely.
I would say go for it but do your homework like I did first and be sure the grinder you choose fits your needs. Northridge Tool is continually working on accessories for this grinder and another reason why i choose this grinder. Contact George at Northridge Tool, great guy and a wealth of knowledge!
At 17:26 you are mounting the Platen with the new glass on it. It is my understanding that you really want your platen to be roughly 1/16" proud. I think that using a "straight edge" and making it almost 1/16" proud is best. It looks like you just aligned it with a the belt.
Yes, I do move the platen depending on what I working on, a little proud is good but not too much or you will round the top and bottom edges of the glass and/or platen and is a little harder on the back side of the belts.
good improvement, brother ray! i imagine the edges of the glass are shaped in bullnose. the next one is the dust suction funnel, no doubt. thank you for the video, -toly
Hi Toly, Yes the edges are a bit rounded and the belt glide over the glass very smooth, less heat too! The funnel has been on my mind and am coming up with a plan here soon for it. Thanks for dropping in Toly!
I found the best/easiest way to sharpen mower blades is with a air angle grinder with a medium sanding disc then a blue Scotch-Brite disc , if you do it correct you can shave with them after sharpened!
placing my order this morning. I checked every unit out there and even the ones that are more expensive and nothing seems to have the quality of construction or production. you never showed how the horizontal position worked but I guess I will find out myself. thanks for such a informative video.
Thanks Michael, You will be very happy with the NRT Grinder, I use mine all the time and love it, best tool I have bought to date and the tipping stand is awesome! Best Regards, Ray
Not sure what kind of waiting time you had but right now it is 2-3 months. you send them a E-mail and when your date is coming up they will contact you for payment and if you still want it you send them the money and they finish it. I will still wait because there just isn't another that is that good at any price.
Looks very good Ray, im hopping to see the new shop starting up. I hope you can put some info out on the type sizes of turning tools you have found work good on your lathe. My lathe is the same as your the G0709, I love it but need tool buy new turning tools. Thanks for all you do. Scotty Stewart
Hi Scotty, Funny you bring that up and will be doing a few new vids on the G0709. The shop build will be starting soon and am real close to breaking ground. My favorite cutting tool is the WNMG carbide insert, both for facing and for turning. most all my tooling is now carbide, it cuts better and lasts a long time, my parting blade is high quality HSS but would like to upgrade to carbide for that as well. Thanks for tuning in!
Yes, the noise you hear in the seam where the belt is glued together. If you use good quality belts like Norton Blaze the knocking sound will be greatly reduced.
I cannot imagine this machine without a guard covering the top and sides of the belt. I have a Wilton 2X72" belt grinder that has a guard and I'm glad it's there. If you you use you're consumables like I do it's just a matter of time till the belt becomes frayed at an edge.
Hey Ray, I know this is an old video and more than likely not monitored any longer, but on the chance that you do: what are you using in place of the gas shock? Did you make it or purchase it? If purchased, where did you purchase it from? Thanks and great videos!
Dj Frisby Thanks DJ, The ratchet belt tensioner was a add on option from NRT, I also have the gas shock but like the ratchet better. Thanks for tuning in!
Thanks man! Yup, Red RTV works like a charm and makes it easy to remove without breaking the glass so you can use the other side, two for one! JB Weld hardens like a rock!
Wow, that machine sure is quite $$. The design is great as it's hard to misalign anything being sandwiched between two thick plates. I've been looking at building my own from several treadmills I've picked up my self. Even a sh_ty machine like this is worth the hassle of building. I like finessing with accuracy too though. I really like the logic behind the glass/ceramic plate. I'm wondering how long a regular plat of glass would last or if it would crack with residual heat. May have to try and see, you never know till you try... even if it rubs off I could have ten plates in house ready for replacement. and yes reg. glass is softer than tempered or ceramic infused tempered. Great vid !
Hello Moonolyth, Take a look at the NRT Mod-E Grinder package, it's a very good economy grinder and check out the video i did on it, I think you will like it! So far this piece of glass is over two years old and still going strong!
Curious, why would you use glass. I polished 100's of pieces of glass, on glass with water and grit by hand to make optical facets. I understand perfectly flat. But even a borosilicate glass is fragile. What happens when a particle of 36 silicon carbide or AL oxide stuck to the back of the belt cuts it form edge to edge like a glass cutter. I have so many glass cut scars, even one in my eye. This is very interesting. Also you would get better adhesion if you sandblast the back to give it a tooth this is smooth to a molecule. .... with enough adhesive broken pieces might just stay put? Could be very safe after all, I don't know
From what I understand, This glass is the same glass used in fireplace doors and its wear properties are harder than tool steel. Yes it will break if struck hard but will outlast all steel platens.
I am no expert in this field, but I do have also mixed feelings with this solution. The goal is to have a better Wear Resistance. Hardness plays a role in that besides friction and in a minor degree heat conductivity. As there is no common method to measure hardness from glass and metal, it is difficult to compare them. In my opinion tool steel is harder??? About friction, I would guess glass to win??? About heat conductivity, glass looses for sure. The glass platen will run very hot at the small contact spot, I have no idea what impact that could have in real life to the platen and the belt? Can a belt run too hot??? Does a belt need any platen-cooling??? For the whole there is too many open questions to make a judgement. It would need an equal comparative test to conclude something. And such test could even give a mixed conclusion like: steel is better for rough users, and glass for the fine applications??? A hint for when gluing 2 flat planes together: use a glue comb!
Yes they did, and Northridge Tool is currently working on additional accessories as we speak! Thanks for the info on the Wilton Bullet, I very much appreciate your eyes in the field brother!
Yes, granite would be no better than tool steel. Granite has a hardness of 7 on the revised Mohs scale. Diamond is 15. Various types of ceramic glass are between 12-14 depending on the chemical composition.
grntitan1 I have been using the crap of of the grinder and did clean it up for this video review. Guess I need to start videoing my stuff when it’s dirty because many do not believe I use my stuff!
Hi Anton, I would have never of thought to use RTV , it is working like a charm! I am glad I asked Northridge Tool what to use first before installing the glass! Thanks for tuning in!
Thanks for the compliment! I will be back making stuff and working on a long list of projects once I get moved in and set up in the new shop, I'm sure you have watched my shop build series and know that I am not quite ready yet. Thanks for tuning in!
Dispite negative comments through some of your videos, your ability to deal with them and spin them into a positive is admirable. It was your assembly video that made me reach out to George and place an order... Thanks for your time and efforts. Cheers
Hey Dave, Thank you for your positive comments! You are going to love this grinder to say the least, I use mine all the time on many different projects, it runs and preforms like no other! George is a great guy and I have keep in touch with him since I bought my grinder. Thanks for tuning in and enjoy your new grinder once you get it!
Best Regards,
Ray
That ledge kit is really cool! I welded mine on. How proud is your platen from the idler wheels at 18:09 ? Is it perfectly in line or proud just a little? I just installed a ceramic glass platen on my 2x72 and it made all the difference. I used 3M tape though. Thanks for your video.
JKeetonKnives I ended up putting a straight edge on the idler wheels and brought the platen flush to the straight edge, so straight in line with the idler wheels.
JKeetonKnives Two years of use and it’s still the same piece of glass!
@@RaysGarage 10-4, thanks for the info! And glad it's lasted so long.
@@RaysGarage Thanks for adding this update, I was wondering. Also, does your grinder get a lot of use... how many hours per week for example?
A very clever modification/improvement!
TheOmnipresent12 The Grinder gets used daily but varies on what I’m working on so on an average I would say ten hours a week or so. It’s a work horse!
Hi Ray, what an awesome piece of kit. As you said it's superbly balanced and manufactured, like back in the day when shit was built to last and 'throw away' society was unheard of. Thanks for sharing. Kindest regards. Joe.
Hey Joe, You are spot on man, this is a very well built Ohio, USA made machine by guys that care a lot about the product they are turning out and it shows in both quality and appearance! Thanks for tuning in!
That is a sweet machine. Love the workmanship on every part of it. I want one now
Sweet belt sander Ray, looks very well made! Great idea using wood stove glass, cheers, Doug
Hey Doug, Northridge Tool has this grinder very well thought out and using the glass also helps the belts run smoother and cooler. Thanks for dropping in!
I covet that grinder, it's so nice and smooth. Sweet job Ray
Great piece of kit dude!
Nice job Ray! Since glass has a very low friction coefficient that should last you a long time. Hopefully, the edges of the glass plate were rounded so that they won't wear out the belt backing prematurely.
Yes, you are correct, and the belts do ride smoother across the glass, Thanks and have a good one Jeff!
Sweet grinder. I have been wanting one for a while. I guess I am going to have to break down and spend the money. That thing is sweet.
I would say go for it but do your homework like I did first and be sure the grinder you choose fits your needs. Northridge Tool is continually working on accessories for this grinder and another reason why i choose this grinder. Contact George at Northridge Tool, great guy and a wealth of knowledge!
At 17:26 you are mounting the Platen with the new glass on it. It is my understanding that you really want your platen to be roughly 1/16" proud. I think that using a "straight edge" and making it almost 1/16" proud is best. It looks like you just aligned it with a the belt.
Yes, I do move the platen depending on what I working on, a little proud is good but not too much or you will round the top and bottom edges of the glass and/or platen and is a little harder on the back side of the belts.
good improvement, brother ray!
i imagine the edges of the glass are shaped in bullnose.
the next one is the dust suction funnel, no doubt.
thank you for the video,
-toly
Hi Toly, Yes the edges are a bit rounded and the belt glide over the glass very smooth, less heat too! The funnel has been on my mind and am coming up with a plan here soon for it. Thanks for dropping in Toly!
God job, nice machine Ray
Thanks Terry, I am very happy with this grinder!
Very nice setup.
Thanks Randy, this baby removes material like butter!
Good Information. I never even looked at the Platen on mine. Been using it for a few years now. Might be worn.
Hey Ken, The grinder belts run much smoother and cooler with the glass, throw one on and let me know what you think!
Great video, thank you! Could this sharpen mower blades?
I found the best/easiest way to sharpen mower blades is with a air angle grinder with a medium sanding disc then a blue Scotch-Brite disc , if you do it correct you can shave with them after sharpened!
placing my order this morning. I checked every unit out there and even the ones that are more expensive and nothing seems to have the quality of construction or production. you never showed how the horizontal position worked but I guess I will find out myself. thanks for such a informative video.
Thanks Michael, You will be very happy with the NRT Grinder, I use mine all the time and love it, best tool I have bought to date and the tipping stand is awesome!
Best Regards,
Ray
Not sure what kind of waiting time you had but right now it is 2-3 months. you send them a E-mail and when your date is coming up they will contact you for payment and if you still want it you send them the money and they finish it. I will still wait because there just isn't another that is that good at any price.
Looks very good Ray, im hopping to see the new shop starting up. I hope you can put some info out on the type sizes of turning tools you have found work good on your lathe. My lathe is the same as your the G0709, I love it but need tool buy new turning tools. Thanks for all you do. Scotty Stewart
Hi Scotty, Funny you bring that up and will be doing a few new vids on the G0709. The shop build will be starting soon and am real close to breaking ground. My favorite cutting tool is the WNMG carbide insert, both for facing and for turning. most all my tooling is now carbide, it cuts better and lasts a long time, my parting blade is high quality HSS but would like to upgrade to carbide for that as well. Thanks for tuning in!
nice review, since I'm working in a small shop can you measure the overall size of the main body and individual components?
Thanks.
You bet!
Next item on my wish list.....got seagulls flying!😳
Got my seagull eyes peeled for you buddy!
I really like how quiet the grinder runs. But under a load I hear what sounds like a knocking sound, is that normal?
Yes, the noise you hear in the seam where the belt is glued together. If you use good quality belts like Norton Blaze the knocking sound will be greatly reduced.
I cannot imagine this machine without a guard covering the top and sides of the belt. I have a Wilton 2X72" belt grinder that has a guard and I'm glad it's there. If you you use you're consumables like I do it's just a matter of time till the belt becomes frayed at an edge.
Hey Ray, I know this is an old video and more than likely not monitored any longer, but on the chance that you do: what are you using in place of the gas shock? Did you make it or purchase it? If purchased, where did you purchase it from? Thanks and great videos!
Dj Frisby Thanks DJ, The ratchet belt tensioner was a add on option from NRT, I also have the gas shock but like the ratchet better. Thanks for tuning in!
The best steel alloy would be AR400 or AR500 if you can find it in this kind of size affordably. But I'm sure pyroceram is even better.
rtv huh? I've always heard to use jb weld. that Northridge is SWEET
Thanks man! Yup, Red RTV works like a charm and makes it easy to remove without breaking the glass so you can use the other side, two for one! JB Weld hardens like a rock!
Wow, that machine sure is quite $$. The design is great as it's hard to misalign anything being sandwiched between two thick plates. I've been looking at building my own from several treadmills I've picked up my self. Even a sh_ty machine like this is worth the hassle of building. I like finessing with accuracy too though.
I really like the logic behind the glass/ceramic plate. I'm wondering how long a regular plat of glass would last or if it would crack with residual heat. May have to try and see, you never know till you try... even if it rubs off I could have ten plates in house ready for replacement. and yes reg. glass is softer than tempered or ceramic infused tempered. Great vid !
Hello Moonolyth, Take a look at the NRT Mod-E Grinder package, it's a very good economy grinder and check out the video i did on it, I think you will like it! So far this piece of glass is over two years old and still going strong!
@@RaysGarage Will do!
Looking good Ray -- how is the shop progress?
Craig
Hello Craig, I am real close to breaking ground, just working out a few details. Nice score on the Baldor your going to really like that motor!
Curious, why would you use glass. I polished 100's of pieces of glass, on glass with water and grit by hand to make optical facets. I understand perfectly flat. But even a borosilicate glass is fragile. What happens when a particle of 36 silicon carbide or AL oxide stuck to the back of the belt cuts it form edge to edge like a glass cutter. I have so many glass cut scars, even one in my eye.
This is very interesting.
Also you would get better adhesion if you sandblast the back to give it a tooth this is smooth to a molecule. .... with enough adhesive broken pieces might just stay put? Could be very safe after all, I don't know
From what I understand, This glass is the same glass used in fireplace doors and its wear properties are harder than tool steel. Yes it will break if struck hard but will outlast all steel platens.
I am no expert in this field, but I do have also mixed feelings with this solution. The goal is to have a better Wear Resistance. Hardness plays a role in that besides friction and in a minor degree heat conductivity. As there is no common method to measure hardness from glass and metal, it is difficult to compare them. In my opinion tool steel is harder??? About friction, I would guess glass to win??? About heat conductivity, glass looses for sure. The glass platen will run very hot at the small contact spot, I have no idea what impact that could have in real life to the platen and the belt? Can a belt run too hot??? Does a belt need any platen-cooling???
For the whole there is too many open questions to make a judgement. It would need an equal comparative test to conclude something. And such test could even give a mixed conclusion like: steel is better for rough users, and glass for the fine applications??? A hint for when gluing 2 flat planes together: use a glue comb!
Boy they thought of everything on that baby. Sweet.
Yes they did, and Northridge Tool is currently working on additional accessories as we speak! Thanks for the info on the Wilton Bullet, I very much appreciate your eyes in the field brother!
If we find one you like I can always go buy it and bring it to the bash if its close enough to me.
BFD.... obsession
it is better to attach a granite tile
MM Never tried granite but I do believe Pyroceram (Ceramic) glass has better wear properties than granite.
Yes, granite would be no better than tool steel. Granite has a hardness of 7 on the revised Mohs scale. Diamond is 15. Various types of ceramic glass are between 12-14 depending on the chemical composition.
Great info, Thanks for sharing! Best Regards, Ray
Ray, you do realize that grinder is made to get dirty, right? LOL
Yea I know, its just so pretty but will be getting her dirty this weekend! Thanks Matt!
grntitan1 I have been using the crap of of the grinder and did clean it up for this video review. Guess I need to start videoing my stuff when it’s dirty because many do not believe I use my stuff!
WTF=RTV ?
Hi Anton, I would have never of thought to use RTV , it is working like a charm! I am glad I asked Northridge Tool what to use first before installing the glass! Thanks for tuning in!
Anton Sijmons
All of his tools appear to be garage queens. Hell, I've seen dirtier operating rooms...Make Something Mr.!
Thanks for the compliment! I will be back making stuff and working on a long list of projects once I get moved in and set up in the new shop, I'm sure you have watched my shop build series and know that I am not quite ready yet. Thanks for tuning in!
It is not going anywhere....get the grinder dirty
Will do man, I'm on it!