@@caseydbriscoe hes about 50% right. Rudolph deserves a suspension for his actions but Garrett's actions could have killed him. Max kept saying hes stronger and bigger, so that only goes against his position.
@@shinsukecorbin425 he made good points but at the same time c'mon bruh. Garrett's the NFLs strongest man and knockouts are no joke. Rudolph already been KOD once l. he should've ripped the helmet off and left it at that
Watch this segment pulling my hair out cause max was the only one talking sense, they were treating the other guy like a delicate flower when he was the one that tried to take the helmet off first
@@juanbanda8052 Doesn't excuse the stupidity of TRYING to rip off a man's helmet, failing to do so and then getting yours ripped off AND YOU STILL CHARGE THAT MAN!! smh
007 bro you bananas with that. Everybody know fight rules. Don’t start none, won’t be none. And if you start it , you should be sure you can finish it.
Max: Myles Garret clearly crossed a big line, they were both fighting and should be suspended/fined appropriately for their own actions. SAS and Woody: Miles Garrett for no reason randomly blindsided and savagely beat Mason Rudolph into a coma
Max wrong in this. The fact that Myles Garret used his helmet to hit someone on the head out of pure anger negates anything else. Who gives a f**k who started what. Throwing hands is one thing. But when you use a potential weapon on someone? Nah. All bets are off. Garrett should be suspended for a season with out pay at minimum.
okjorge 9 no max isn’t wrong. He’s saying yes Myles is wrong and should be punished. He’s saying don’t act like Mason is a victim. He deserves punishment too. Why is this so hard for some ppl to get?
@INTERNETWORK Close to common sense. I will try again for you. 1 don't try and take another man's helmet off 2 don't fail to take another man's helmet and then get YOUR helmet taken from you 3 don't CONTINUE to charge a man to do harm WITHOUT said helmet that the man your charging IS HOLDING!! 4 don't play victim after your agendas failed!! LOGIC......because I would tell my son or loved ones THAT WAS DUMB! Let it marinate!
@@larrysamilton4162 Ironic too. Considering they get mad at police all the time for escalating the situation. Myles Garrett literally did the exact same thing, yet because he's black and not a white cop it's okay.
i think u dnt understand, the man roughed the passer hence is why mason was upset and tussled in trying to get his helmet off in the first place, so he unnecessary roughness which starts the fight, mason tries to get his helmet off but failed too, garrret then rips masons helmet off and has it in his hands, whats mason supposed to do, sit there and say somebody get my helmet from him, no he pursued him to get it back, then which he was hit in the head with his helmet, and ppl like you talking about the rules of engagement, i swear we have some idiotic ppl in the world
@@southside2056 the only idiot is you. There are penalties for roughing the passer. He charged because Garrett wad being held back by Mason's teammates
oh money No he isn’t, Max is making a point that is not concrete. Mason wouldn’t be chasing after Garret if Garret didn’t have his helmet. Also, Max makes a poor fighting analogy that is literally retarded because once again this is NOT a fight. It’s football.
Michael Dodd rudolp started it clearly lol. every qb gets hit n dropped by DE in the league but what QB tries to take a 6’4 270lb DE helmet off. he was too weak to take garrets helmet off so garret took his
Joshua Allen tru he didnt need to take him down but its a game DE take down QB’s all the time but what QB has ever tried to fight a DE lose then go back n try to fight again.
“Myles Garrett is being restrained” EXACTLY, in the streets it’s me against everybody, the Steelers could’ve easily all jumped on him, no he shouldn’t have Done it but to Max’s point, he shouldn’t have been put in that position, and it just so happens when one is under the threat of being jumped, they have to find an equalizer, all involved should be punished.
Dtaune Ingram lol not it’s not and your comparing a street fight to fight in a game. So he could of pulled out a knife and stabbed him since the same rules apply
@@jeffgo5742 he could have...players have items on them that they shouldn't all the time...in a fight you dont know whats gonna happen therefore same rules apply in any unsanctioned fight
Dtaune Ingram wrong in football there’s different consequences on top of criminal ones if rudolph were to press charges. You cant expect people to be on your side after you hold the player after the play ended and try to hold n not let go
I'm not fully on Max's side but he did open up something i didn't think about which is that Rudolph started it. I still think Myles should be gone for the rest of the season because of the danger that swing posed to Mason but I think Mason should be suspended for 2-3 games for keeping the fight going. I also think the o-lineman who was just punching and kicking Myles, Pouncy I think it was, should be suspended a couple games cause that's not how you should handle it especially when one of your teammates is restraining him like that
Zu Max’s point isn’t the issue, Max is making it sound like Rudolph had what was coming to him and in no way is having a helmet slammed in your skull is something Rudolph deserve
Lol max looks at EVERY SINGLE ISSUE through the lens of American racial politics. It's straight up moronic. His analogy with the baseball bats was just dishonest. But he does have to show off how woke he is 😂😂
Max has been one of the ONLY media members I've seen to react to this with logic and not emotion. It's sad to see that people are overreacting so hard to the situation.
@Phuong Its actually not dirty he didn't drive him into the ground and the hit was on time!But the dirty move was whoever called that play with 15 secs left lol its what actually started it...
Because even if Rudolph did start it (which he didn’t) there is NO excuse UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES that you can take the helmet off a player and then hit his uncovered head with that helmet. That is the definition of assault. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Saint Aubyn TFG nah Garrett hit him late after Mason literally three the ball past his face mask and then drove him to the ground knowing full well Mason had thrown the ball and all this when they were up 14 with a few seconds left on the clock that was needless and unnecessary. I would have reacted if I were Mason, Garrett was trying to bully him.
Bro these desktop analysts are failing to realize. Dude tried to rip Miles helmet off and failed. Miles is like: "oh yeah, Mother F***er?!" And then rips his helmet off instead. Then the fool "Mason" attacks him. 90% of human beings would have swung with that helmet in that situation.
thay means their about to lay hands on you so garret is justified for using the helmet because no onw was holding Rudolph back at all. You think hes just going to let him hit him. No. Justified self defense
One of my favorite things Max ever said that points to how he decipher situations is when he stated " I Don't Care if its popular or not I Am Going To Tell You What I See" its blasphemous how society acts and pretend like humans don't register the same emotions when pressure is applied, thus this situation. Youre in the heat of the moment a fight just broke out youre being attacked by 3guys while the first guy who started it is still pursuing you trying to harm you, How can anyone victimize you for acting on impulse to protect yourself. I understand the high road but in the midst of it all how can you blame a guy for reacting to all the variables that took place even after masons helmet is off. At that point it's clear myles is seeing red, especially when that someone else is being the aggressor, the initiator. Honestly both Mason and Myles is responsible like Max has stated but acting like Garret is this despicable man here and that he deserves more than just suspension or that this is all on him is so lopsided that it's ridiculous. Everybody has there POV but how can you be honest with yourself and claim Mason is the victim when all he did was lose the battle he CHOSE !? That's all max is getting at stop ignoring the whole story from beginning to end choosing the moments you want to highlight to make your point thats not even thoroughly valid. Half truths and analysis are still considered false if you wont account for the whole story 🤷🏽♂️. But i know, I'm just part of the minority on these type of things so, just to say i agree with Max which is hardly ever the first time 🤣 He's an acquired taste but his ability to have a standpoint/viewpoint but still is able to see a situation from multiple standpoints rather he agrees with it or not is something a lot of folk lack the ability to do. I guess in other words that empathy. 💯💯💯
It's football not war. Max can't see the forest for the tree. It's debatable if Rudolph started it. But Myles totally lost his humanity and compassion as a person and showed no respect to Rudolph as a living and breathing person. Isn't football just a game???
_Sid_daDrxppa_ 2 it’s a principle I don’t care who does what there’s principle, so if you try to take off a helmet you deserve to possibly die? If I keyed your car you’re gonna get in your car and try run me over?
M Braz no but if u start the fight and pursue the fight, when they go to discipline, you are also at fault. We don’t forget that you did something wrong bc the other person took it too far. This is the forest through the trees. You think that because miles swung a helmet, everything else that happened is mute. Mason deserves punishment for trying to rip off his helmet and then chasing him after the fight had been separated. we can’t ignore that because what followed was worse. If I rear end ur car and u get out and break my window and punch me. U are going to jail for punching me and paying for my window.. I am STILL paying for your back bumper.
there is nothing to listen for when Garrett almost destoryed a man's life. doesn't matter who started, you don't take it that far. THIS IS THE NFL, not a street fight.
@@matthewvaladez8209 Hitting someone with a helmet and hitting someone wearing boxing gloves are totally different things. Max's area of expertise does not apply at all to this incident.
Its like both you and someone else have a gun in a fight. He tried to shoot you but you Jackie Chan-ed and yanked it away like you’re in Rush Hour. He starts charging at you . Do you shoot him with his gun? The rest is up to you . I dont really know where I stand.
misslouisiana made how is he wrong? That’s the definition of assault with a deadly instrument. That’s a felony . Doesn’t matter what was happening as a pro you can’t do that. Stephen is actually right. Doesn’t matter if he was chasing him Myles garret swung with the intention of seriously hurting him.
@@Adeezydadon, helmets are not considered "deadly weapons". That is a false equivalency. Rudolph was the aggressor and instigator of the altercation. He is not innocent. Miles was kicked and punched in the head while defenseless and being held by two of Rudolph's teammates. And, you just attempted to prove "intent to serious injure" with no justifications for it. No court of law agrees with Stephen A. or your abysmal take on what actually transpired. And, a "felony"? You have got to be out of your mind. If, that is the case, both Miles and Maxon should be suspended, as well as the two Steelers players who attacked miles while on the ground. Punching is assault. A two handed shove is "assualt". Swinging a helmet is "assault". Fine. We will see you in court, my dude.
Jamie Pile yes it is assault. There are different classifications of assault. I never said deadly weapon I said deadly instrument. A deadly instrument is anything that you can use as a weapon to cause an individual serious harm or injury. Myles garret intent was to harm him and seriously injure him. It doesn’t matter about all the fight . When you take a item capable of hurting someone seriously and you with purpose try to use that item to do that. It’s assault 2 felony. So yea see you in court the fight they had doesn’t even matter it’s all about the helmet and what his intentions were with it. Also he can be hit with reckless endangerment for swinging the helmet next to another person. So yea let’s go to court. Im pretty sure you will take a plea or lose really bad.
Calling a guy who got hit late by a guy with a history of Injuring QBs on late hits at fault even. After he was laying on him and wrestled him to the ground for no fucking reason...yeah 200 IQ logic fucking browns fans.. get a few commercials and think they have a dynasty 😂😂😂
No he is not!! He's ignoring that Myles hit Mason late and still tried to take him down maso did not start that fight. Only an idiot thinks Mason started that fight!
@@ph1677 Max is the reason I no longer watch this show. Max is cut from the privileged White Man cloth that has this uncontrollable need to defend every black Athlete on the planet, no matter how wrong they are. It has gotten so bad, it's to the point where some black analyst have had to come to the defense of the white athlete because the white privileged analyst never do. And are often the ones that are overly critical of them. Bottom line is, there's a ton of bias in these national sport shows. I never thought I'd see the day when the black voice in the Sports media room is now the more conservative voice. I always thought the term White Privilege was a bunch of bullshit made up by hardcore liberals and the black community. But I'm finally realizing there is white privilege I'm just not one of them. I think the phrase White Privilege is mislabeled. Because it's really for the most part about wealth than anything else. I grew up white and poor. Wealthy privilege is really what it is.
Max is soft as toilet paper. And you can’t be “about that life” between those white lines. This is grown men playing a game for millions of dollars...let’s not act like they are on the front lines.
@you're right agree, they have just justified most police killings with this argument. Per say how about not reaching for something when told not to, how about not running away from the cops, how about not acting in a threatening manner...
Can’t agree more. I swear these analysts are incompetent. In absolutely no way am I excuse what Garrett did but you’re supposed to assess literally every aspect of the situation. If you ever play football and have someone literally grab your facemask they have complete control of your head and neck movement putting great force & hurt on your head and neck. Then when you’re trying to rip someone strapped helmet from off their head it apply more pressure and it hurts a player. Rudolph had the same exact intentions as Garrett. The only reason why he didn’t succeed is because he wasn’t strong enough. And by intentions I just mean taking off the helmet & exposing him for punches. Not actually hitting him with the crown of the helmet.
I feel this comment. He’s honestly the only person I can relate to on this topic. Everyone else is ignoring the fact that mason started it and kept it going.
thats how Max is as an analyst. he always looks at things from multiple sides. sometimes he doesnt make sense to most. you have to really pay attention to what he says and listen to every word.
@@jesussaves1566 i once beat a guy with brass knuckles. He didnt die and in those days i went HAM. It takes a lot to bludgeon a guy to death. It's not like on tv shows
So when it's on you can attempt murder and get away with it basically is what you are saying? Because it easily could have been if the helmet was tilted a little more in either direction.
@@nickolascaldarera7182 We know both guys were wrong but what we're saying is that Stephen A & Damien seem to be missing the point Max is making & make it seem as if Mason was the victim in the situation.
Not really. How many times have you seen players grab another person's helmet in frustration and pull them by the face mask? How many times have you seen a player get knocked down from a late hit or any sort of action they feel was excessive and then retaliate with a shove of their own or an aggressive push into the face? Those things never get punished beyond penalty yards for a reason. Emotions run high during games and it typically doesn't go further than that. Mason wasn't brandishing a helmet as a weapon or even throwing fists in Miles direction. While stupid to rush back into a scrum without a helmet on, he in no way did anything excessive to warrant a suspension much less for another player to feel justified in swinging a helmet at someone's unprotected head. That was full-blown assault, even if done through the blinders of anger because a televised football game with officials and security personnel isn't the streets where anything can happen.
I’m convinced that Max is the only person on this panel that’s been in an actual fight.
THIS IS THE NFL, not a street fight.....
Same
A fight...it was a game. Dude needed to calm down
A street fight with a bunch of nobody’s with nothing to lose. is a lot different than a public fight with money, image and a career on the line.
Same. I think I'll listen to the boxing analyst while these other clowns call helmets deadly weapons
Damien: "Mason Rudolph pursued Garret without a helmet..."
Max: "That's not smart."
**dead**
Max is 💯% correct!!!!
Habitual Line Stepper Max is 100% right this time
@@caseydbriscoe hes about 50% right. Rudolph deserves a suspension for his actions but Garrett's actions could have killed him. Max kept saying hes stronger and bigger, so that only goes against his position.
@@mitchk3338 What you just said was maxs position. He wasnt arguing Rudolph doesnt get a suspension
Pure logic
It’s like Max is the only person whose ever even SEEN a fight on this segment.
Seriously 100% agree
100%
Yep. And it's insane that he is.
Dom Blackwell For real. Max likes boxing and ufc...this isn’t crazy to him lol
I agree
Max hasn't been able to argue with anyone level headed about this topic.
Thats because u agree with him, doesnt mean ur rite. Max is a people pleaser!!
@@blakewatson4192 ut seems everybody agrees with Max its not abput beong a people pkeaser its common sense. To bad 10% of people clearly dont have it.
Max ain’t playing around today 😤
The only time I agree with him he speaking FACTS
@@gordyfreeman2151 he agrees because he's speaking facts. 😐
MAX WANTS ALL SMOKE AND I LOVE IT 💨
Right
Cuz he knows his fan base is gonna back him..Max might talk crazy sometimes but when the REAL topics come up Max keeps it a buck fasure
Yep, today he definitely did. GREAT DEBATE!!
@@shinsukecorbin425 he made good points but at the same time c'mon bruh. Garrett's the NFLs strongest man and knockouts are no joke. Rudolph already been KOD once l. he should've ripped the helmet off and left it at that
@@lawrencemerriman8768 if you're at a club with a bottle in your hand with two people pushing you back and someone runs up what are you doing?
I can only imagine Ryan hollins coming on the show and saying “mason Jarrett”
Got Game 😆
Mister Zuniga tomorrow they will be talking about kaps workout.
Ryan Hollins getting off track real.quick and start talking bout Kap.
😂😂😂
Lol
Max makes a very intelligent argument--and I definitely agree with it.
Of course u do!!
Exactly
Watch this segment pulling my hair out cause max was the only one talking sense, they were treating the other guy like a delicate flower when he was the one that tried to take the helmet off first
MAX KELLERMAN:
THAT'S NOT SMART !!!!!!
ME:
U AIN'T LYING
“ he chased him without a helmet on max!” .... “ that’s not smart “
xDD
Damien got ethered with that line haha
Also not smart to hit a man over the head with a helmet on live tv. is what my reply would have been.
@@juanbanda8052
Doesn't excuse the stupidity of TRYING to rip off a man's helmet, failing to do so and then getting yours ripped off AND YOU STILL CHARGE THAT MAN!! smh
Juan Banda if you go after a dude and get dusted, it’s at least half your fault 🤷♂️ pretty simple really
If it was up to Damien Woody Myles Garret would have life in prison without parole.
😂
Lol but I get Woody point. He could've really hurt that guy with the helmet.
C. Patterson 😂😂😂
C. Patterson I'll take banned for life.
😂😂😂 I’m dying
Max stood his ground. These other two guys have prolly never been in a real fight in their life..smh
Yeah, I'm sure Damien Woody doesn't know about what happens in an NFL game ????? How stupid are you Jack M ?
Max is a whimp
I’ve been rolling my eyes all day. Max is the only one making sense today
Fr
I'm your 100 like today
Y’all really asked the boxing guy “was it too brutal”
Right😂
For real 🤣
The boxing guy cries about Trump🤣😂🤣😂
Steely Mike this has nothing to do with trump
Bingo, i was thinking that Max is used to seeing fights
I’m such a big fan of Max. The only person making sense.
Me too!
Exactly
🙄🙄
The only time this clown consistently made sense was as a boxing analyst. Max is a tool.
007 bro you bananas with that. Everybody know fight rules. Don’t start none, won’t be none. And if you start it , you should be sure you can finish it.
People forget Max is a legend boxing analyst lol he love fighting
he needs to go back to boxing
@@keltoncrew5241 he's still doing it as well as this. Even ringside
When did they start using objects as weapons in boxing? Is this a new change to the sport?
Timo Cruz literally irrelevant
@@June-hl8ec i thought it was figuratively irrelevant
Max: Myles Garret clearly crossed a big line, they were both fighting and should be suspended/fined appropriately for their own actions.
SAS and Woody: Miles Garrett for no reason randomly blindsided and savagely beat Mason Rudolph into a coma
Damien: Max all I'm hearing from you is what ifs.
Also Damien: What if, what if, what if what if.
😂😂😂. Exactly
Lol yep trash
Attempted murder is still bad
What if he got hurt or worst died
Max comes from a fight sport. That's why he understands situation as a whole.
Damien: He pursued him without a helmet on
Max: Yeah he did ... That’s not smart
I’m sorry but Max has def grown on me 😂 2:15
Mgriff 7 max a idiot
@ how dumb white dude wanted that smoke
anybody else completely understand what max means
@@gblair7622 Dumb black dude tackled white dude well after the ball was thrown
@@f1ves961 that happens all the time in football, its called roughing the passer, all Mason had to do is walk away but he wanted smoke.
Burfect was at home like: Yooooo i guess ill be coming back soon
M DUB SPORTS nah he was prolly jealous it was Garrett and not him😂😂😂
@@CalvoHavin ouch😅
Y’all crazy 😂
Max wrong in this. The fact that Myles Garret used his helmet to hit someone on the head out of pure anger negates anything else. Who gives a f**k who started what. Throwing hands is one thing. But when you use a potential weapon on someone? Nah. All bets are off. Garrett should be suspended for a season with out pay at minimum.
okjorge 9 no max isn’t wrong. He’s saying yes Myles is wrong and should be punished. He’s saying don’t act like Mason is a victim. He deserves punishment too. Why is this so hard for some ppl to get?
Mason Rudolph the type to start a fight, get beat up then call the police on the other guy
He said he would look into taking legal action🤦🏽♂️ We'll see how that goes🙄
Damion Woody and Stephen A got their tap shoes on for this one.
Mars - No they don't.
Mars Vee Why? Because their opinions differ?! C’mon man, it doesn’t diminish them being black.
BIG TIME!
Butter biscuit season
Patent leather ones at that Shiny as heck.....lol....
Max is using logic and it's pissing everyone off lol
Logic would be not hitting another man with a helmet, this situation is revealing a lot of morons
@@jakeirby4505 can't hit wats not in range
@@jakeirby4505 I couldn't agree more. What kinda "moron" goes at a man with full pads when you don't even have a helmet on...... fucking morons right?
@@jakeirby4505
You completely missed everything AGAIN! Smh
@INTERNETWORK
Close to common sense. I will try again for you. 1 don't try and take another man's helmet off 2 don't fail to take another man's helmet and then get YOUR helmet taken from you 3 don't CONTINUE to charge a man to do harm WITHOUT said helmet that the man your charging IS HOLDING!! 4 don't play victim after your agendas failed!! LOGIC......because I would tell my son or loved ones THAT WAS DUMB! Let it marinate!
He didn’t roll his eyes. Max was trynna see what Damien was looking at.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Luis Herrera bruh 😂
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂😭😭😭😭😭
😢😂
😂😂😂😂
Max is 100 percent Spot on they’re trippin tryna take what he’s saying out of context
Kevin Starrs 100 percent right!!!
He would have never been hit if he wouldn't have charged him
Humble servant still doesn’t give you the right, if I key your car are you gonna run me over?
@@humbleservant4163 lol STFU e thug.
Sorry dude...you can’t shoot a person for keying your car. You lose that battle in court every time.
@ go away gay dude
@@Superman32211 I am not a dude idiot
I’m rolling with Max on this
I NEVER SEEN SO MANY BLACK PROCECUTORS IN MY LIFE.
@@larrysamilton4162 Ironic too. Considering they get mad at police all the time for escalating the situation. Myles Garrett literally did the exact same thing, yet because he's black and not a white cop it's okay.
Damion dont understand rules of engagement
he does he just saw lil stevie get a check by selling out so now he's trying to get his check
On the Streets Yes, they don’t apply on a Football Field. They can take it away from U at Any Time🙄🙄🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️!!!
This ain’t the streets fam....
i think u dnt understand, the man roughed the passer hence is why mason was upset and tussled in trying to get his helmet off in the first place, so he unnecessary roughness which starts the fight, mason tries to get his helmet off but failed too, garrret then rips masons helmet off and has it in his hands, whats mason supposed to do, sit there and say somebody get my helmet from him, no he pursued him to get it back, then which he was hit in the head with his helmet, and ppl like you talking about the rules of engagement, i swear we have some idiotic ppl in the world
@@southside2056 the only idiot is you. There are penalties for roughing the passer. He charged because Garrett wad being held back by Mason's teammates
MAX DESERVES A RAISE. HE'S A REAL ONE!
Facto
oh money Yup he’s a real one ✡️
oh money No he isn’t, Max is making a point that is not concrete. Mason wouldn’t be chasing after Garret if Garret didn’t have his helmet. Also, Max makes a poor fighting analogy that is literally retarded because once again this is NOT a fight. It’s football.
Yeah real douchebag
Max knows fighting
Great point Max. Stand your ground, Articulate the facts. Both sides are wrong but Garrett was provoked 100%
Rudolph was all about it til the helmet hit his noodle then he raised his hands and was looking for help😂
Parker Rowe 😂😂😂😂💯
Punks jump up to get beat down lol
That is soooo true!!
@Jay ReMine lol garret clearly didnt go all out.
Parker Rowe 😂😂
Nobody:
Damien Woody: HE COULD HAVE KILLED HIM!!
Danny Batres haha white boi
Perfect propaganda words
Everybody: He could have killed him
Max kellerman: So
@@mitchk3338 😂😂
😄
Mason Rudolph jus learned a lesson in when keeping it real goes wrong
Jeff Barker 😭😭😂
🤣🤣🤣
Both of em really but ya Rudolph poked the Bear
Garret got swarmed after he did that so I bet Rudolph no doubt would do it again lol.
Just watched that Chapelle show yesterday lol
Thanks Max for actually seeing what happened and being brave enough to point it out. Stephen and Damien you are part of the problem.
I completely agree with Max don’t start a flight that u can’t win, period
Would have had a better chance of winning if Garret wouldn't have weaponized his helmet.
Lady Wolf how did Rudolph start the fight he got droven to the ground on the last play of the game then garret was holding him down
Michael Dodd rudolp started it clearly lol. every qb gets hit n dropped by DE in the league but what QB tries to take a 6’4 270lb DE helmet off. he was too weak to take garrets helmet off so garret took his
Myles doesn’t need to take him to the ground
Joshua Allen tru he didnt need to take him down but its a game DE take down QB’s all the time but what QB has ever tried to fight a DE lose then go back n try to fight again.
Damien Woody about to hit Max with a Helmet 😂😂
Lol Max is too intellectual for these guys he’s a legit debater
@@Acewilson. Facts!
Ace Wilson 100% agreed
Well news is out garrett suspended for the rest of the season pouncey three games n dude that pushed Rudolph one game
Wow... Stephen A shows respect to Max AFTER Charles woodson chimes in
I noticed that as well... 🤣😂🤣 that got his attention
Sergio Muñiz yea that’s crazy. But that’s what max been saying, look at both sides and the root of the situation.
“Myles Garrett is being restrained” EXACTLY, in the streets it’s me against everybody, the Steelers could’ve easily all jumped on him, no he shouldn’t have Done it but to Max’s point, he shouldn’t have been put in that position, and it just so happens when one is under the threat of being jumped, they have to find an equalizer, all involved should be punished.
This isn’t a street fight it’s a football field big difference
@@jeffgo5742 yet its still a fight and the same rules apply
Dtaune Ingram lol not it’s not and your comparing a street fight to fight in a game. So he could of pulled out a knife and stabbed him since the same rules apply
@@jeffgo5742 he could have...players have items on them that they shouldn't all the time...in a fight you dont know whats gonna happen therefore same rules apply in any unsanctioned fight
Dtaune Ingram wrong in football there’s different consequences on top of criminal ones if rudolph were to press charges. You cant expect people to be on your side after you hold the player after the play ended and try to hold n not let go
Long story short : DONT HIT SOMEONE IF YOU DONT WANT TO GET HIT BACK 🤷🏽♂️💯💯
that rule doesn't apply to women and ummm you know what types of QBs
MikeBNumba6 cmon bro that’s dumb af
Literally put his hands up and cried to the refs like a toddler.
David Montgomery Mason initiated the fight by trying to take off his helmet if you don't want nothing don't start nothing
Rudolph didnt hit nobody
I can't believe I am 100% on Max side on this one.
Mercenary 1914 bro same here
Many of of us either can't believe you that ignorant to hate on Rudolph for not being pissed. I be trying to get at him to
Me too! 10000000%
Why
I'm not fully on Max's side but he did open up something i didn't think about which is that Rudolph started it. I still think Myles should be gone for the rest of the season because of the danger that swing posed to Mason but I think Mason should be suspended for 2-3 games for keeping the fight going. I also think the o-lineman who was just punching and kicking Myles, Pouncy I think it was, should be suspended a couple games cause that's not how you should handle it especially when one of your teammates is restraining him like that
I don’t get why these dudes don’t get Max’s point. Mason Rudolph should be suspended too
Ya for a game. At most two, the bigger story is Garrett should be out for the season plus an extra 6 next season
Cause they thought the Steelers would beat the Browns instead got a Beatdown in C-town!😂😂😅
Zu Max’s point isn’t the issue, Max is making it sound like Rudolph had what was coming to him and in no way is having a helmet slammed in your skull is something Rudolph deserve
@@Luchoveli you're on some serious drugs that your parents had told you to stay away from
@@MrSlashblade when did he make it sound like that? Was it while he was condemning Myles Garrett or are you speaking about a different video
Yall too emotional about this, dont to talk about fights to a man that been covering boxing his hall careeer, teammax for this one
Covering boxing and someone getting beat with a football helmet are 2 different things lol.
Still he was completely right on his stance
Yeah & this isn't boxing. & max is just a spectator
Ephie Hymer yeah but seeing that brutality up close like max has for years he has a valid opinion
Nihilus 17 nah he’s not at all. Totally wrong
Max's common sense intellect bothers these guys some times lol
James Anthony lol right. They run on emotion, optics, and popular public opinions
I guarantee if Mason Rudolph wasn't a white QB Max wouldn't have this position.
He's a social justice warrior, and pathetic
Pretty sure he's defending the black guy dummy
@@Saiiiyan My bad I wrote it wrong, if Mason wasnt white, Max wouldnt have this nonsensical position.
Lol max looks at EVERY SINGLE ISSUE through the lens of American racial politics. It's straight up moronic. His analogy with the baseball bats was just dishonest. But he does have to show off how woke he is 😂😂
Max has been one of the ONLY media members I've seen to react to this with logic and not emotion. It's sad to see that people are overreacting so hard to the situation.
Max is absolutely right on this one
Max has definitely used a weapon in a fight before. Lol
Jose Hernandez he has some street in him
@Scouts Honor Found the racist.
Scouts Honor oh gtfo here
Max: “I agree you can’t do that and he should be suspended.
Race-baiting snowflake “Jewish man bad”
Well dam when was this smfh🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
“No one is ignoring what Rudolph did” that’s exactly what they’re doing.
shawn0336 right lol
Yup
Str8 up
Yep
@Phuong Its actually not dirty he didn't drive him into the ground and the hit was on time!But the dirty move was whoever called that play with 15 secs left lol its what actually started it...
Everyone: “this isn’t right...!”
Max: “but did he die...?”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
LOL
Lol
I'm dead AF
well did he?
Lesson is don't start a fight then be the victim when you get beat up. Simple.
Exactly
Lol. Dude u need to tryout for dumb and dumber 3!!!
@Dj Hergert can't run up on a man trying to fight then be called "defenseless".
@Dj Hergert then the 2 pittsburgh offensive linemans shouldn't been grabing him when he got up..since it should be a fair fight
I’m on max side with this one
YES I AM ALSO ON MAX SIDE TELL SHARP DON T ACT LIKE HE NEVER BEEN IN TROUBLE BEFORE
He wasn't trying to hurt him, he was just trying to put the helmet back on Rudolph's head.
That's what I saw 🤣🤣
Sylvester Crowley,
That was probably the funniest comment that I read about thIs whole situation.
😭😭😭 brooooo
Woody: Mason Rudolph pursued Myles Garrett without a helmet on
Max: Yeah he did
Also Max: That’s not smart
I’m crying 😭😂 Max is hilarious
If the quarterback would have been black would all of this B said
Alex May Probably not.
The QB shouldn’t have chased him, he was pursuing Myles... they both should be punished
If Mason Rudolph didn't want to get killed why did he try to fight Miles Garrett
Facts
Why is everyone but Max choosing to ignore that Mason Rudolph started all of this?
Frfr. Max is right
Saint Aubyn TFG you are unintelligent. Garrett brought Rudolph down well after the ball was gone to start this whole thing. It was all Garrett.
Red Hood yeah, you committed assault also and will be charged too 🤷🏾♂️
Because even if Rudolph did start it (which he didn’t) there is NO excuse UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES that you can take the helmet off a player and then hit his uncovered head with that helmet. That is the definition of assault. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
Saint Aubyn TFG nah Garrett hit him late after Mason literally three the ball past his face mask and then drove him to the ground knowing full well Mason had thrown the ball and all this when they were up 14 with a few seconds left on the clock that was needless and unnecessary. I would have reacted if I were Mason, Garrett was trying to bully him.
Shout out to Max for being the first to speak on this from that perspective
i agree. The reaction to this has been completely over the top. Like pretty much everything these days.
You and max are both dumb asf
No one thinks mason is innocent, but he's still the victim.
Y’all are crazy! I’m with max,you want smoke come get it lol
Oh you tried to take my helmet, well I took yours, now take it back. That's what I saw.😂😂😂
Yeah!!!!!
I saw a shitty game😆
MrPcoz exactly 😂😂😂
Maxx is the only one pointing out the fact that Mason was grabbing dude's helmet on the ground
Max didn't bring up that Mason kicked him in the nuts
@@MikeBNumba6 lol that never happened
And Garrett did the unesserary tackle but let's leave that out to try to defend Garrett's actions
You're crazy if you're equating both the things...one thing is infinitely worse then the other...you guess which is which
Yeah bc Miles was still driving Rudolph into the ground well after the whistle.
Who told old boy to run up with no helmet 😂😂😂
“Run up get done up”
@angelo belcher so how did he get close enough to get hit...HE RAN UP
Bro these desktop analysts are failing to realize. Dude tried to rip Miles helmet off and failed. Miles is like: "oh yeah, Mother F***er?!" And then rips his helmet off instead. Then the fool "Mason" attacks him. 90% of human beings would have swung with that helmet in that situation.
thay means their about to lay hands on you so garret is justified for using the helmet because no onw was holding Rudolph back at all. You think hes just going to let him hit him. No. Justified self defense
@angelo belcher clearly u didn't watch the clip...Mason ran up on him,Myles finished what he started....point blank....
One of my favorite things Max ever said that points to how he decipher situations is when he stated " I Don't Care if its popular or not I Am Going To Tell You What I See" its blasphemous how society acts and pretend like humans don't register the same emotions when pressure is applied, thus this situation. Youre in the heat of the moment a fight just broke out youre being attacked by 3guys while the first guy who started it is still pursuing you trying to harm you, How can anyone victimize you for acting on impulse to protect yourself. I understand the high road but in the midst of it all how can you blame a guy for reacting to all the variables that took place even after masons helmet is off. At that point it's clear myles is seeing red, especially when that someone else is being the aggressor, the initiator. Honestly both Mason and Myles is responsible like Max has stated but acting like Garret is this despicable man here and that he deserves more than just suspension or that this is all on him is so lopsided that it's ridiculous. Everybody has there POV but how can you be honest with yourself and claim Mason is the victim when all he did was lose the battle he CHOSE !? That's all max is getting at stop ignoring the whole story from beginning to end choosing the moments you want to highlight to make your point thats not even thoroughly valid. Half truths and analysis are still considered false if you wont account for the whole story 🤷🏽♂️. But i know, I'm just part of the minority on these type of things so, just to say i agree with Max which is hardly ever the first time 🤣 He's an acquired taste but his ability to have a standpoint/viewpoint but still is able to see a situation from multiple standpoints rather he agrees with it or not is something a lot of folk lack the ability to do. I guess in other words that empathy. 💯💯💯
max is the only one that’s looks at the big picture
It's football not war. Max can't see the forest for the tree. It's debatable if Rudolph started it. But Myles totally lost his humanity and compassion as a person and showed no respect to Rudolph as a living and breathing person. Isn't football just a game???
_Sid_daDrxppa_ 2 it’s a principle I don’t care who does what there’s principle, so if you try to take off a helmet you deserve to possibly die? If I keyed your car you’re gonna get in your car and try run me over?
M Braz no but if u start the fight and pursue the fight, when they go to discipline, you are also at fault. We don’t forget that you did something wrong bc the other person took it too far.
This is the forest through the trees. You think that because miles swung a helmet, everything else that happened is mute. Mason deserves punishment for trying to rip off his helmet and then chasing him after the fight had been separated. we can’t ignore that because what followed was worse.
If I rear end ur car and u get out and break my window and punch me. U are going to jail for punching me and paying for my window.. I am STILL paying for your back bumper.
This Damien guy doesn’t listen 😂
there is nothing to listen for when Garrett almost destoryed a man's life. doesn't matter who started, you don't take it that far. THIS IS THE NFL, not a street fight.
Damien clearly is just trying to be right and the more he talks the more stupid he sounds lol
@@steviesoprano But it's ok when they brawl out in baseball or Hockey Right
He got his mind made up already, he didn't want to debate
@@steviesoprano All Max is saying is: " If you poke a giant with a stick, don't be surprised when he knocks your head off!" Period.
Max only one speaking logically and he’s right. The rest just speaking on follow by follow emotion
Your logic trash then
It's like Max has an IQ of like 200 and everyone else's is like 0.200
Wow.
Max is such a moron.
Max knows more about fighting than Stephan A and this Damian guy put together
@@matthewvaladez8209 Hitting someone with a helmet and hitting someone wearing boxing gloves are totally different things. Max's area of expertise does not apply at all to this incident.
Dennis Bembenek he also never said it was ok for him to do that.
He would have never lost his Equipment if he didn’t try to take Myles G helmet off
Hold'on.....why are u rolling ur eyes at me??
Its like both you and someone else have a gun in a fight. He tried to shoot you but you Jackie Chan-ed and yanked it away like you’re in Rush Hour. He starts charging at you . Do you shoot him with his gun? The rest is up to you . I dont really know where I stand.
So Rudolph took his own helmet off and got himself with it?
@@SpriteChan good example
Exactly
Stephen A: "I already said you’re wrong. I’m right again, here’s why"
Stephen is wrong in my opinion
misslouisiana made how is he wrong? That’s the definition of assault with a deadly instrument. That’s a felony . Doesn’t matter what was happening as a pro you can’t do that. Stephen is actually right. Doesn’t matter if he was chasing him Myles garret swung with the intention of seriously hurting him.
misslouisiana made
You are a moron
@@Adeezydadon, helmets are not considered "deadly weapons". That is a false equivalency.
Rudolph was the aggressor and instigator of the altercation. He is not innocent.
Miles was kicked and punched in the head while defenseless and being held by two of Rudolph's teammates.
And, you just attempted to prove "intent to serious injure" with no justifications for it. No court of law agrees with Stephen A. or your abysmal take on what actually transpired.
And, a "felony"?
You have got to be out of your mind. If, that is the case, both Miles and Maxon should be suspended, as well as the two Steelers players who attacked miles while on the ground.
Punching is assault. A two handed shove is "assualt". Swinging a helmet is "assault". Fine.
We will see you in court, my dude.
Jamie Pile yes it is assault. There are different classifications of assault. I never said deadly weapon I said deadly instrument. A deadly instrument is anything that you can use as a weapon to cause an individual serious harm or injury. Myles garret intent was to harm him and seriously injure him. It doesn’t matter about all the fight . When you take a item capable of hurting someone seriously and you with purpose try to use that item to do that. It’s assault 2 felony.
So yea see you in court the fight they had doesn’t even matter it’s all about the helmet and what his intentions were with it.
Also he can be hit with reckless endangerment for swinging the helmet next to another person. So yea let’s go to court. Im pretty sure you will take a plea or lose really bad.
Damian just channel his inner black women attitude "why did you roll your eyes at me"
Comment underrated af 😂
If they were in the same room with each other Max would have got a shoe chucked at his head!
🤣🤣
@@dreadbull5039 I bet he has those George Bush reflex tho
People pls vote for this comment lol. I laughed so hard.
Max is the only one thinking logically. I respect Max going forward.
Calling a guy who got hit late by a guy with a history of Injuring QBs on late hits at fault even. After he was laying on him and wrestled him to the ground for no fucking reason...yeah 200 IQ logic fucking browns fans.. get a few commercials and think they have a dynasty 😂😂😂
No he is not!! He's ignoring that Myles hit Mason late and still tried to take him down maso did not start that fight. Only an idiot thinks Mason started that fight!
fr nobody has a brain expect max
"Punks jump up to get beat down " Brand Nubian.
princetopher18 Martin Lawrence said that too 😂😂 when he fought Tommy Herns
Yeaaaaaaah
@@yojaleel ion wanna fight no mo Gina ion wanna fight no mo😂😂
JDotSams 😂😂😂
A punk is the guy who needs to swing a football helmet at someone's head.
0:23 Max should have said Why are your eyes looking in two different direction 💀
Lol
Disrespectful! 😂😂
I don't think Max wants those issues with Woody.
🤯🤦🏾♂️
LMAFO I didnt even notice till I saw this comment fucking dying
One of the few times when everyone is wrong except max
Izzy Dixon exactly all the black folks tryna not lose they job max the real G lol
Dizzy Iixon You and Kax Mellerman must be democrats.
True
Well the NFL sees it a different way 😂😂😂😂😭😭
@@Eastsidee817 If you get into a fight at work and they are breaking it up ..and u stab someone with a pencil will u still have a job???😭😭😭
Max just being real. All these dudes tryna get a full time job with espn
LeafVillage UchihaClan yeah Max is about that life
LeafVillage UchihaClan facts bro
Nah, he’s just trying to see his wife banged by a bunch of black homies
Max being the only man among some simps ! 😑😑😑
LeafVillage UchihaClan you right Max is right and I can’t believe an ex NFL player is being this freaking soft on national television
Max is the only "about that life" person on the show.
Max watched too many boxing matches...boy gives 0 Fs about a helmet swing
max the only one who sounds really stupid to be honest
@@trentonwhitmill7156 not only that, Max used to be a boxer I believe.
@@ph1677 Max is the reason I no longer watch this show. Max is cut from the privileged White Man cloth that has this uncontrollable need to defend every black Athlete on the planet, no matter how wrong they are. It has gotten so bad, it's to the point where some black analyst have had to come to the defense of the white athlete because the white privileged analyst never do. And are often the ones that are overly critical of them.
Bottom line is, there's a ton of bias in these national sport shows. I never thought I'd see the day when the black voice in the Sports media room is now the more conservative voice. I always thought the term White Privilege was a bunch of bullshit made up by hardcore liberals and the black community. But I'm finally realizing there is white privilege I'm just not one of them. I think the phrase White Privilege is mislabeled. Because it's really for the most part about wealth than anything else. I grew up white and poor. Wealthy privilege is really what it is.
Max is soft as toilet paper. And you can’t be “about that life” between those white lines. This is grown men playing a game for millions of dollars...let’s not act like they are on the front lines.
If it comes to fighting I’m going with max all day no cap
So you take a helmet off and you're no longer a threat. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤦🏾♂️ exactly. That’s like if you take you shirt off in a fight you’re not a threat anymore
Guess Andre Johnson wasn't a threat
Or like when you take of a condom,
Mason Rudolph isn't a threat to Myles. Myles is no DB, he's a big DL
Ya that’s exactly right, whoever doesn’t have a helmet on while on the field is more vulnerable by far, and that’s common sense. 😏
How about not charging at a man with your helmet off ?
Darnell Lyons exactly
Darnell Lyons how about not charging a man stronger and bigger than you 😂. He was asking for it
This needed to be said
you're right he is literally defending a black guy soooo?🤔
@you're right agree, they have just justified most police killings with this argument. Per say how about not reaching for something when told not to, how about not running away from the cops, how about not acting in a threatening manner...
2:22 that “Ohhh” max let out was too funny😂
Think I’m starting to agree with Max on this issue. Rudolph should’ve gotten a suspension.
Rudolph should've gotten 2 games I would say.... wouldn't hurt the steeelrs in any way tho lol, he sucked last night. But don't defend Garrett lol
Jack Weiser I don't believe suspensions have been issued yet. Mason will be suspended when all is said and done. To agree with Max is asinine tho
Before the OP comment smh
Can’t agree more. I swear these analysts are incompetent. In absolutely no way am I excuse what Garrett did but you’re supposed to assess literally every aspect of the situation. If you ever play football and have someone literally grab your facemask they have complete control of your head and neck movement putting great force & hurt on your head and neck. Then when you’re trying to rip someone strapped helmet from off their head it apply more pressure and it hurts a player. Rudolph had the same exact intentions as Garrett. The only reason why he didn’t succeed is because he wasn’t strong enough. And by intentions I just mean taking off the helmet & exposing him for punches. Not actually hitting him with the crown of the helmet.
Nobody ever got suspended for pulling a helmet off ever. It's a fine. Myles it's getting suspended for the hit wth the helmet not taking it off him
Max Kellerman is an acquired taste but he’s starting to win me over
Same he's the only one looking at the situation from both sides.Everyone is is just letting emotion take over
I feel this comment. He’s honestly the only person I can relate to on this topic. Everyone else is ignoring the fact that mason started it and kept it going.
thats how Max is as an analyst. he always looks at things from multiple sides. sometimes he doesnt make sense to most. you have to really pay attention to what he says and listen to every word.
Yeah, nuance is his curse. You can't have a measured perspective in a conversation with people who just want to yell.
RenaldoSeguin you’re obviously a Steelers fan
Max is right. When it's on, it's on. QB shouldnt have run up.
Period ....
No u don’t try to kill the dude
@@jesussaves1566 i once beat a guy with brass knuckles. He didnt die and in those days i went HAM. It takes a lot to bludgeon a guy to death. It's not like on tv shows
@@andrecannon8559 And the punishment for Garrett should fit the suspension which Max seem to not agree with.
So when it's on you can attempt murder and get away with it basically is what you are saying? Because it easily could have been if the helmet was tilted a little more in either direction.
No rules in fighting once it’s on it’s on 🤷🏽♂️💯
Damien and Stephen A. irritated me in this. I can only imagine how annoyed Max was arguing with them over this.
Right. I saw exactly where Max was coming from & it just went right over their heads. Smdh
Both guys were wrong. Myles went way too far. It’s up to Mason and Myles to grow from this situation. Time will tell.
FAAAAAAACCCCCTTTSSSSS
@@nickolascaldarera7182 We know both guys were wrong but what we're saying is that Stephen A & Damien seem to be missing the point Max is making & make it seem as if Mason was the victim in the situation.
Ghost10 you are right. Agree completely.
I’ve heard the names Myles Garrett and Mason Rudolph so much at this point, I actually forget who’s who
Mason Garret and Myles Rudolph.
more like Shawn Michaels vs Undertaker at wrestle mania
😆😆😆😆😆😆ita crazy how Mny people are on both sides but listen imo Myles wasn't wrong yeah I said it
the NFL reminded you whos the white guy by not suspending him.
Lol so did Damian are one point
I love how everyone is trying to convince one person that he was wrong.
The whole argument should be over after what Max says starting at 1:21
Imagine if he hit him with the helmet and his head went back in the into the helmet. How funny would that be🤣🤣🤣
No suspension
No fine
Just a bunch or funny memes 😂😂😂
Mason probably wouldn't have ears after that 😂😂
That comment literally made me LOL
This was funny
Tbh mfs would of been lauging
Bruh I can’t stand Damien woody
I can't stand Bladder either
you mean the guy making sense?
Steven Damian was flossing over the fat that Mason tried to pull his helmet off and chased after him without his helmet
I'm not feeling him either
On God bruh he might as well spread his cheeks if he’s not already for who signs his checks at this point
Max is sooooo right.. I don't see people fighting bears.. in this situation Myles was the bear
Max is the voice of reason in this. The wonders never cease.
“Please tell me” while I continue to talk and talk and talk
Finally. A sports analyst who sees that Mason Rudolph isn't an angel in all of this.
MAX CAN COME TO ALL MY FAMILY FUNCTION!!!!!!!!
Every last one of them
Why
DEADASS
Like Max said Mason did it first and failed.. Then played victim..
Nobody:
SAS: Myles Jarrett
Stale copycat comment.
Nobody comments lame af
C’monnn now! This man Damien Woody look like Flats from SpongeBob!! 😭😭😭
kaleb Goodemoot 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Bruh!😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Flats from spongebob ahaha you are so wrong for this one funniest comments yet😂😂😂
hahahaha
I can't believe im saying this but Max actually has a point smh
You a moron like Max.
Just one of the few W’s he found in a pile of L’s.
Max is usually always right even tho it sounds crazy he has a point 🤷🏾♂️
Not really. How many times have you seen players grab another person's helmet in frustration and pull them by the face mask? How many times have you seen a player get knocked down from a late hit or any sort of action they feel was excessive and then retaliate with a shove of their own or an aggressive push into the face? Those things never get punished beyond penalty yards for a reason. Emotions run high during games and it typically doesn't go further than that. Mason wasn't brandishing a helmet as a weapon or even throwing fists in Miles direction.
While stupid to rush back into a scrum without a helmet on, he in no way did anything excessive to warrant a suspension much less for another player to feel justified in swinging a helmet at someone's unprotected head. That was full-blown assault, even if done through the blinders of anger because a televised football game with officials and security personnel isn't the streets where anything can happen.
Is Max the only person on this show who isn't insane today
Yes
Who let biggie on first take
Lol im dead
R.i.p. tho
Jerry disrespectful 🤦♂️
Yalll chilll it’s a joke biggie one of the greatest to ever do it.
😂😂😂