The irony of SAS saying that Marcellus crossed the line for supposedly "putting down" another black man, when all SAS does is put down other black men professionally and personally, while screaming and tap dancing on ESPN is absolutely asinine.
Y’all just be saying any bs lol critiquing athletes as a debate analyst isn’t putting other black men down. Nor is critiquing someone’s game anything remotely comparable to saying someone is fearful because they lack intelligence. Y’all can dislike someone without making asinine arguments like this.
@@iceman463864 i don’t watch sports since the whole kaepernick divide. Most people say they dont want politics in their sports. I dont want sports in my politics. I think they’re all trivial. With that being said, I couldn’t care less about his sports critiques. I, myself, am only speaking to when he discusses social issues. Like kaepernick. If you don’t know SAS “be coonin for the camera”, then you’re drinking the kool-aid.
@@iceman463864You be saying anything… so calling players a bust or trash is critique. Calling someone’s decision to not get vaccinated selfish and ignorant which has nothing to do with sports. Say “I don’t do research”, without saying the actual words… furthermore, Marcellus definitely did not attack Smith intelligence.
No. Stephen Ahas tried to allude to the idea that they just weren't on the same level for TV purporses. He said flat out no one came to First take for Max so he thought he was carrying the show by himself cuz he wasn't with someone on his level.
@Atribecalledsuccess Went after Kap's woman. That's when I stopped paying any attention. Many people hate SAS so bad they're ready to put up with Wiley. Wiley knows that & in his clicks chase he's jumping on it.
Not as bad as Dave Meltzer, but yeah he needs an editor. Lol. At least he didn't go all the way back to "building a company in a pandemic". A sweet man though
I've noticed that whenever another "Black Man " criticizes him he runs to the Black Man card while he has consistently trashed other black men thru out his career.
@@Atribecalledsuccess if it was just criticism of said sport that’s cool but when you start making things personal with athletes like kd kyrie kawhi lonzo t.o and so on it crosses the line
He was clearly intimidated by Max intellect, and it showed. He debated Max like a woman, like when you argue with a woman they don't let logic f up their pov 😂
@hikidunm1582 Shannon Sharpe brought the numbers! Sharpe's RUclips show and FS1 fans came with him. That triggered the instant increase. Like SAS said about Kevin Durant's move to Golden State, his choosing Shannon is an equivalent.
It baffles me that Stephen A. made a career out of bashing athletes yet people say "oh that's just his job". But when Marcellus calls him out, all of a sudden it's out of bounds. Well it's Marcellus's job then.
Y'all didn't start saying that until Kwame Brown said it. Gtfoh You niggas bash black men on social media ALL DAY. Look at how much hate LeBron and Drake get. You mfs kill me
Stephen A brought up Wiley? It's like you guys are ignoring that part. Max is a 50 year old man. Let him respond. Wiley wasn't in it. He wasn't at ESPN. It's not high school. There's no riding for your homie here... Especially when neither you nor your homie have a platform large enough to really do any damage.
@@trainerrob1622 first off ain't none of these folk my homies I ain't caping for nobody, I just pointed out That SAS was the one who opened this can of worms. And he has commented on Marcellus Wiley and ESPN layoffs before. But in the context of this specific "beef" SAS is indeed the one with the bigger platform and audience but yet he still REPEATEDLY comments on max kellerman when the man has nothing going on rn.
@@bodegapope Your name is Wiley? I was talking about your homie or Wiley's homie? Max is Wiley's best friend in real life. Max is a 50 year old man who can use his own voice to respond to a situation he was directly involved in. Wiley who's also a 50 year old man is now publicly beefing with another 50+ year old man over his work relationship with a different 50+ year old man. There's no defending that, especially when his friend has a big enough name to publicly address it if he chooses.
What a lame ass take! SAS was loud, wrong, & a hypocrite which is nothing new. Also you must not have any friends because real friends stand up for their friends! @@trainerrob1622
I remember watching a John Oliver episode talking about the NBA Daryl Morey China controversy and he used a SAS clip and described him as someone who is frequently "loud, wrong, and takes pointlessly dramatic pauses". I thought it was a good summation.
@@kirkjoseph16ok, “black men who don’t pull the race card every time they don’t have an argument”. Better now? Easy to tell where you fall in this spectrum
It wasn’t that he said Max was smarter. It was the fact that Max seemingly proved himself to be more knowledgeable on social issues regarding black people than SAS who is black, allegedly. Its like a Mexican that can’t speak spanish or a jewish person who has no knowledge of the holocaust. There is a shame and embarrassment attached to it. I personally believe SAS is a schucker and a jiver and Marcellus exposed that.
@@KingoftheSouth78 his sports takes sucked, so people would give an eye roll. BUT he was a good at playing devils advocate on any topic cuz he is generally smart
[0:00-12:20] Stephen A Smith's response to Marcellus Wiley [12:21-15:22] MLB playoffs are chaos [15:23-24:42] Preperation for announcing a game Dan & Stugotz in Studio, Chris Cote EP Lucy, Billy, Chris Whittingham, and Jeremy in the Shipping Container
The editing on this was a little confusing…Stugotz references the Bob Costas call at the end of the 1st segment, but it’s not introduced until the beginning of the 2nd segment.
I think we're underestimating Shannon sharp. Stephen A. Capitalized on Shannon's departure from Skip. It was a brilliant move. Shannon was a bigger personality than skip. It's like when KD was a free agent and went to Golden state. They were the number 1 show in the league and but got boosted to invincibility when KD got there.
@@kaofounder Broadcaster? He doesn’t do games. He does minstrel performances daily. He’s also the pioneer of the TV format that RUINED all cable news. SAS literally hurts the country.
@@jeffwilliams2828 1. Are you unaware that the term sports broadcaster doesn't refer solet to people who broadcast during live games? 2. Stephen A was hired at First Take by Skip in 2012. That format had been in news media at least since Crossfire debuted on CNN in 1982. So according to you, Stephen A pioneered a news format that existed 30 years before he ever did it? 😂
I agree with Marcellus’ response. SAS has been on a tour just trashing Max everytime he has an interview. If you didn’t work out with him ok but leave it be. Max hasn’t said a word about this whole thing even tho his character is being assassinated
Yes, but SAS doesn’t need to respond to it (while saying he’s tired of answering the Q) & go out of his way to diss Max. SAS let Max go, why must he pour salt in the wound? B/c Max lives rent-free in SAS’s head b/c he’s intimidated by Max’s intellect. Ironically, SAS is dealing in ‘the soft bigotry of low expectations.’
@@supergold9390 I don’t want to get into a long argument about this, but when he goes on and on that Max isn’t a journalist or an athlete. I’ll give you athlete (but then neither is SAS, at least not a pro or even a well-known college one), but Max discusses and reports on sports news stories on a credible sports channel. That’s a journalist in my book. I don’t care what any J-school professor says. Max was doing the job in the real world. SAS might have a background as a journalist, but now he’s known for loud and overbearing hot takes. He’s basically a sports talk radio host. Even when he’s on TV. It’s popular and he’s good at it. Fine. But why can’t he go on and enjoy his success and quit talking about MK? MK’s not taking the bait. At this point, it’s starting to look like obsession; which is quite ironic.
@@trevorgolding9200 Once again though. Its everyone else that is obsessed with the question. He's not bringing it up. He has his canned answer that he gives every time. The various independent media platforms trying to feed off of the drama are the ones with the obsession. Not SAS. This story would be dead dead if every podcast he goes on doesn't ask about MK. But without fail, every podcast asks.
Sas is and has been out of touch for awhile. He is a caricature of what white people think a black sportscaster would be. That is the disconnect. He hurts black athletes and max due to those facts. He will eventually crash and burn if he don't get real guidance. It's very obvious more than ever.
I don’t understand Dan and the shows obsession with SAS. It’s like a weekly conversation at this point. SAS doesn’t need this platform, too, to get his sound clips out
Came here to see what Dan and crew had to say about the whole Stephen A/Max/Marcellus thing, and left feeling like nobody said anything even remotely interesting or relevant about it. "Oh wow look at how powerful Stephen A is and how he markets and brands himself." Never getting those 10 minutes of fluffy nothingness back...
Nah. It was there.....subtle...and meant for those that know the energy of it to acknowledge that. He just can't say it out loud because of gatekeepers and the fact that the message would be lost in that. Stephen A betrayed the message by pointing it out flagrantly to bolster his argument.
More so, a black man being fearful of being exposed by a white man. He has no connection to his people. Just living for a paycheck. From what I’ve heard, he has insecurities about that (not being black enough). It tracks.
Marcellus was talking about how Max was a MENSA member & that Stephen A's ego was threatened by it. Race had nothing to do with it. It's a shame SA went there.
This the conversation Dan is scared to have..... it's crazy because when Dan touts that he's the one to make the industry uncomfortable his line in the sand is so obvious the blind see it
Can we start a board that keeps track of the days we don't talk about Stephen A Smith?? If I wanted to hear a narcissist gasbag yell nonsense, I would watch First Take. I watch this show to intentionally avoid Stephen A Smith, yet somehow Dan brings him up almost everyday
For a show that constantly criticizes sports pundits and the landscape of sports debate shows, they sure focus on SAS a whole lot. Every episode is literally focused on SAS and Skip. You’re literally doing the same things you’re against…..
Stephen A ripped up a young Kwame' Brown, actively mentioned that owners shouldn't sign Kyrie to a long term contract and dirtied up Kevin Durant for making a career move that he was free to do. So Marcellus giving him the business, is a welcomes experience.
Correct that SAS was scared of Max's intellect? The same Max ego says Andre Iguodola is better than Steph Curry? The same Max that declared Tom Brady's career over 7 years ago? I just think SAS didn't like Max, it's as simple as that. The idea he was scared of him is silly.
Question? When did sports commentaries commenting on each other, become the new hotness. Dan Patrick would comment on it every now and then, in passing, for 3 minutes tops, not a full 30 minutes. This has been getting weird.
Lol. SAS instead of being introspective why another black man called Max more black than him, pulls a race card on Marcellus because he is speaking the truth. The way SAS handled Max during his show, getting him fired and taking shots at him years after he is gone shows how he is still insecure. While Max does have some insane head scratching hot takes which is good for TV, on many important issues including black issues he is more empathetic and knowledgeable than SAS. Instead of opening up and learning those things, he closed down, got insecure and being biitter at Max.
FWIW, a lot of McAfee fans watch/listen to him on RUclips still, and not in the way they might watch a 30 seconds FT clip on YT. The average viewer watches McAfee for 45 minutes on RUclips, which is a huge number.
I hope Shannon realizes Judis will always smile in your face. I never thought he should have mixed himself up with SAS & honestly Molly is starting to irk me. She’s now thinking she’s a moderator & debater. Now they have to give her time for her thoughts. Really?
Marcellus does a great job of covering behind the scenes in sports media and would be a great addition to Meadowlark. I don’t necessarily see the point in Dan continuing these Stephen A topics. It’s interesting but it’s a bit excessive at this point.
Not so fast my friend... that's cuz he has BOSSES on ESPN that don't ALLOW him to talk about it. Riddle me this... Why is SAS CONSTANTLY talking about Lebatard, Bayless, Wiley, etc. on his RUclips?? For the same reason that Lebatard, Bayless, Wiley, etc. are constantly talking about him on RUclips.... SPONSORS/AD REVENUE. These fools are the sports media version of Joe Budden, Charlemagne, and DJ Akademiks. 💯
@Atribecalledsuccess Ain't that the point of the content business? Getting views? And while we're pocket watching... don't forget to mention the fact that Wiley is pretty much running a one-man, daily show over there (i.e. - he sees the LION share of ad rev AND sponsors) and Lebatard is running a NETWORK... completely different convo. SAS is an employee... one of the BEST... but nonetheless, an EMPLOYEE allowed to have a platform on RUclips that is just as beholden to VIEWS as the network where he is employed. A network that wants NO PART of the foolishness.... which is why he addresses the bullshit on his own platform (to drum up views for ad rev) and leaves it alone on the platform where he is employed (because it actually pays the bills). I ain't hating on his side hustle... it's VERY lucrative.... but let's not act like he's not playing the same game as every other creator.
What does wiley saying sas was afraid of maxs intellect have to do with race? I am so tired of sas an both his ego and antics, its so played out.. playing the race card here was cringe
If I was SAS I would not have wanted Max on the show either as Max is way smarter than him and it was apparent. For SAS to call out Wiley for stating the facts and questioning how a black man can say a white man is smarter than SAS is crazy... I never liked Max because he always sided with blacks on the BLM and other racial issues and did not give the white perspective that SAS was looking for. SAS was right to get rid of him because it is his show, he needs no other reason than that but he looks like a clown now for not just stating the obvious, it was a business decision.
Big ups to Jeremy on dropping "Navel Gazing". Hadn't heard that turn of phrase before. Going to try to add to my lexicon. Practice makes purpose, gotta say it at least a few times per day to get it to stick.
Steven A is foul for saying he got a Max off the show. That should have been between him and the espn. Steven A thought it was a flex but it really made him look bad and karma is gonna caught up. If this was vice versa ppl would be calling Max a raciest.
Comparing the TV viewership #’s of First Take to Pat McAfee is wildly out of touch. No one’s watching Pat on cable television. People are watching him on RUclips like they always have. His clips easily rack up 1 million+ views a day. So yeah, Pats for sure doing those numbers and then some.
It’s pretty simple: when you have a strong fanbase and a strong platform,that fanbase will take in whatever content you put out. At that point,they are invested in YOU. They are invested in your personality. That’s why this is happening. He has cornered the market of morning sports media
I was a junior in high-school in 2003 &back then there was no DVR; not even sure about TiVo. ESPN was on all day every day, maybe we switched the channel to watch HBO but then it was right back to ESPN
Not trying to be malicious, but First Take is becoming stale. The show, even with Shannon is vulnerable to losing viewers. Also, losing Irvin hurts the program.
The irony of SAS saying that Marcellus crossed the line for supposedly "putting down" another black man, when all SAS does is put down other black men professionally and personally, while screaming and tap dancing on ESPN is absolutely asinine.
He is an industry plant. Placed to give a black voice to agenda talking points. Poison in the pudding.
Y’all just be saying any bs lol critiquing athletes as a debate analyst isn’t putting other black men down. Nor is critiquing someone’s game anything remotely comparable to saying someone is fearful because they lack intelligence. Y’all can dislike someone without making asinine arguments like this.
@@iceman463864 i don’t watch sports since the whole kaepernick divide. Most people say they dont want politics in their sports. I dont want sports in my politics. I think they’re all trivial. With that being said, I couldn’t care less about his sports critiques. I, myself, am only speaking to when he discusses social issues. Like kaepernick. If you don’t know SAS “be coonin for the camera”, then you’re drinking the kool-aid.
just another racist "victim"
@@iceman463864You be saying anything… so calling players a bust or trash is critique. Calling someone’s decision to not get vaccinated selfish and ignorant which has nothing to do with sports. Say “I don’t do research”, without saying the actual words… furthermore, Marcellus definitely did not attack Smith intelligence.
Stephen A. still doesn't realize he is the only person who crossed the line for how he talked about Max 😂😂😂
What did he say about Max?
He always has positive things to say about max that’s bs.
No. Stephen Ahas tried to allude to the idea that they just weren't on the same level for TV purporses. He said flat out no one came to First take for Max so he thought he was carrying the show by himself cuz he wasn't with someone on his level.
@@MidtownMeezusthat’s true. Max may have better takes on certain topics but he’s not entertaining like Stephen A not close
@@MidtownMeezusThank you.
SAS saying someone "crossed the line" is the very definition of irony.
Facts!
No one has ever broken down SAS like Wiley did. No one dared do so. Gotta love Wiley😊
Wiley like his brother Jason Whitlock did all that for clicks - nothing to do with principles!!!
@@hikidunm1582ppl forget how bad Wiley talked about kap
@Atribecalledsuccess Went after Kap's woman. That's when I stopped paying any attention.
Many people hate SAS so bad they're ready to put up with Wiley. Wiley knows that & in his clicks chase he's jumping on it.
No one dared to jump into a topic they had nothing to do with, just to demonize SAS for speaking his perspective?
@@kaofounder Wiley & Whitlock's agenda is controversial reactions to get response from the subject. Click chasers
Sports commentators are becoming bigger divas than superstar athletes.
It's all a work to increase their views and subscriptions.
Dan will tell you the entire history of the universe before he gets to his question/point.
Not as bad as Dave Meltzer, but yeah he needs an editor. Lol. At least he didn't go all the way back to "building a company in a pandemic". A sweet man though
Twice
He’ll tell you the history of the universe twice in slightly different ways before he get to the point. 😂
I love Dan. This is my favorite show. BUT you are 100% correct. 🤣
😂😂😂. “ wrap it up B”
For a number of reasons…
I've noticed that whenever another "Black Man " criticizes him he runs to the Black Man card while he has consistently trashed other black men thru out his career.
You noticed that too, huh? 😂 It's easy for him to do that because when he does, he knows that no one on the show (his show) will question him.
Criticizing someone’s game isn’t trashing someone
@@Atribecalledsuccess if it was just criticism of said sport that’s cool but when you start making things personal with athletes like kd kyrie kawhi lonzo t.o and so on it crosses the line
@@treyvonjackson9293 be specific most of them he was talking about injuries which is apart of the game
like when he called Lamar Odom a "crackhead" on live TV. It doesn't get more personal than that. Lowlife and classless....but that's Stephen A.
Stephen A very eloquently completely avoided the question and instead turned it into “I was attacked”. He’s a true clown.
He was clearly intimidated by Max intellect, and it showed. He debated Max like a woman, like when you argue with a woman they don't let logic f up their pov 😂
In every sense of the word
@@Ysoserious1 Stfu with that stupid 'like a woman' bs 🙄 Enough to say it's obvious & SAS is an ass.
@@Ysoserious1 The evidence doesn't support that. He as Exec producer said the numbers weren't moving - Max leaves & numbers shoot up.
@hikidunm1582 Shannon Sharpe brought the numbers! Sharpe's RUclips show and FS1 fans came with him. That triggered the instant increase. Like SAS said about Kevin Durant's move to Golden State, his choosing Shannon is an equivalent.
It baffles me that Stephen A. made a career out of bashing athletes yet people say "oh that's just his job". But when Marcellus calls him out, all of a sudden it's out of bounds. Well it's Marcellus's job then.
Y'all didn't start saying that until Kwame Brown said it. Gtfoh
You niggas bash black men on social media ALL DAY. Look at how much hate LeBron and Drake get. You mfs kill me
Yurp!
Stephen A on the breakfast club like he's a victim 😂
And quick to accuse others of being a victim when he attacks them.
Stephen A on the View like he's a victim.
Marcellus Wiley would have never commented on it if SAS didn't bring it up
MARCELLUS GOT HIM!!!!
Stephen A brought up Wiley? It's like you guys are ignoring that part. Max is a 50 year old man. Let him respond. Wiley wasn't in it. He wasn't at ESPN. It's not high school. There's no riding for your homie here... Especially when neither you nor your homie have a platform large enough to really do any damage.
@@trainerrob1622 first off ain't none of these folk my homies I ain't caping for nobody, I just pointed out That SAS was the one who opened this can of worms. And he has commented on Marcellus Wiley and ESPN layoffs before. But in the context of this specific "beef" SAS is indeed the one with the bigger platform and audience but yet he still REPEATEDLY comments on max kellerman when the man has nothing going on rn.
@@bodegapope Your name is Wiley? I was talking about your homie or Wiley's homie? Max is Wiley's best friend in real life. Max is a 50 year old man who can use his own voice to respond to a situation he was directly involved in. Wiley who's also a 50 year old man is now publicly beefing with another 50+ year old man over his work relationship with a different 50+ year old man. There's no defending that, especially when his friend has a big enough name to publicly address it if he chooses.
What a lame ass take! SAS was loud, wrong, & a hypocrite which is nothing new. Also you must not have any friends because real friends stand up for their friends! @@trainerrob1622
I remember watching a John Oliver episode talking about the NBA Daryl Morey China controversy and he used a SAS clip and described him as someone who is frequently "loud, wrong, and takes pointlessly dramatic pauses". I thought it was a good summation.
Hahaha
@@limitlesspursuitLoud ignorance is considered "entertaining" today.
So true lol
Everytime Stephen says I'm a black man. Every black person starts rolling their eyes
WRONG!! I’m a black man and I and I know others who do not feel that way! Stop CAPPING and speak for yourself!
🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
I’m a black man too and my eyes roll every time Carlton I meant Steven A is on my TV.
Every time he says that it follows with some shit most of Black America would not co-sign. That’s why TO said what he said
@@kirkjoseph16ok, “black men who don’t pull the race card every time they don’t have an argument”. Better now? Easy to tell where you fall in this spectrum
SAS literally puts on a Goofy hat and dances on the show and he wonders why people think of him as a clown
Maybe not literally, but you definitely make your point!
When max and marcellus create their own podcast together i think they are going to do very well
Facts!
SAS trying to make it a race thing when Marcellus essentially just said Max is smarter… which he is.
Max is not smarter than Stephen A. Absolutely not on sports. If he was he would’ve been more atractive after being fired.
@@jimmysexson164I agree! I don’t understand this Max love all of a sudden. It seems like most people hated Max when he was on First Take
It wasn’t that he said Max was smarter. It was the fact that Max seemingly proved himself to be more knowledgeable on social issues regarding black people than SAS who is black, allegedly. Its like a Mexican that can’t speak spanish or a jewish person who has no knowledge of the holocaust. There is a shame and embarrassment attached to it. I personally believe SAS is a schucker and a jiver and Marcellus exposed that.
@@elark123FACTS!
@@KingoftheSouth78 his sports takes sucked, so people would give an eye roll. BUT he was a good at playing devils advocate on any topic cuz he is generally smart
Dan randomly shouting “Stugotz!” In the middle of a point is always hilarious
its great because he'll make fun of other peoples verbal crutches as well
I never noticed it until you said it. But now I can't unhear every single time he does it which is A LOT.
[0:00-12:20] Stephen A Smith's response to Marcellus Wiley
[12:21-15:22] MLB playoffs are chaos
[15:23-24:42] Preperation for announcing a game
Dan & Stugotz in Studio, Chris Cote EP
Lucy, Billy, Chris Whittingham, and Jeremy in the Shipping Container
The editing on this was a little confusing…Stugotz references the Bob Costas call at the end of the 1st segment, but it’s not introduced until the beginning of the 2nd segment.
Appreciate the timestamps @IrishWeegee
Much appreciated good sir
Time Stamps are off today.
Also WE Appreciate you & all your work. Irish
I think we're underestimating Shannon sharp. Stephen A. Capitalized on Shannon's departure from Skip. It was a brilliant move. Shannon was a bigger personality than skip. It's like when KD was a free agent and went to Golden state. They were the number 1 show in the league and but got boosted to invincibility when KD got there.
And just like KD after he left he has floundered
For Stephen to decide after 2 years he "has nothing else to say" is rich. He hasnt stopped talking about it since he ran Max off. 😂
Stephen A a legend in his own mind😂
…And Golden Gloves boxer
And??? You gotta believe in yourself before anyone else will.
He's been a #1 rated sports broadcaster for 12 years at ESPN after being a local journalist. If he's not a legend, who is?
@@kaofounder Broadcaster? He doesn’t do games. He does minstrel performances daily. He’s also the pioneer of the TV format that RUINED all cable news. SAS literally hurts the country.
@@jeffwilliams2828 1. Are you unaware that the term sports broadcaster doesn't refer solet to people who broadcast during live games?
2. Stephen A was hired at First Take by Skip in 2012. That format had been in news media at least since Crossfire debuted on CNN in 1982. So according to you, Stephen A pioneered a news format that existed 30 years before he ever did it? 😂
I agree with Marcellus’ response. SAS has been on a tour just trashing Max everytime he has an interview. If you didn’t work out with him ok but leave it be. Max hasn’t said a word about this whole thing even tho his character is being assassinated
The thing is that most of the time when he’s discussing max it is other media platforms trying to get the sound bite and profit from the drama.
Yes, but SAS doesn’t need to respond to it (while saying he’s tired of answering the Q) & go out of his way to diss Max. SAS let Max go, why must he pour salt in the wound? B/c Max lives rent-free in SAS’s head b/c he’s intimidated by Max’s intellect. Ironically, SAS is dealing in ‘the soft bigotry of low expectations.’
@@trevorgolding9200 where does he go out of his way to diss Max? I have not seen him diss Max at all.
@@supergold9390 I don’t want to get into a long argument about this, but when he goes on and on that Max isn’t a journalist or an athlete. I’ll give you athlete (but then neither is SAS, at least not a pro or even a well-known college one), but Max discusses and reports on sports news stories on a credible sports channel. That’s a journalist in my book. I don’t care what any J-school professor says. Max was doing the job in the real world. SAS might have a background as a journalist, but now he’s known for loud and overbearing hot takes. He’s basically a sports talk radio host. Even when he’s on TV. It’s popular and he’s good at it. Fine. But why can’t he go on and enjoy his success and quit talking about MK? MK’s not taking the bait. At this point, it’s starting to look like obsession; which is quite ironic.
@@trevorgolding9200 Once again though. Its everyone else that is obsessed with the question. He's not bringing it up. He has his canned answer that he gives every time. The various independent media platforms trying to feed off of the drama are the ones with the obsession. Not SAS. This story would be dead dead if every podcast he goes on doesn't ask about MK. But without fail, every podcast asks.
SAS repeatedly proves himself wrong and wrong again especially when it comes to black culture
I was like “this comment better be coming from a black man” then I saw you name… lol
Hell yeah or he’ll try to make it about race when it’s really unnecessarily
I wonder if there are any white davontaes..
@@SolidMikePit’s funny I had the same thought. But who knows with names these days.
Sas is and has been out of touch for awhile. He is a caricature of what white people think a black sportscaster would be. That is the disconnect. He hurts black athletes and max due to those facts. He will eventually crash and burn if he don't get real guidance. It's very obvious more than ever.
I don’t understand Dan and the shows obsession with SAS. It’s like a weekly conversation at this point. SAS doesn’t need this platform, too, to get his sound clips out
Stephen A is doing to ESPN what Rob Dyrdek did to MTV
“Max is blacker than you Stephen A.” 😂
T.O. a GOAT 🐐 for that.😅
Stephen A had his intelligence questioned and turned it into a race issue. Judge a man, not by the color of his skin, but the content of his character
It was a cop out
for what it's worth, you guys are #1 in my viewership and in my heart!
SAS clearly intimidated and Marcellus is not wrong to call a spade a spade.
Came here to see what Dan and crew had to say about the whole Stephen A/Max/Marcellus thing, and left feeling like nobody said anything even remotely interesting or relevant about it. "Oh wow look at how powerful Stephen A is and how he markets and brands himself." Never getting those 10 minutes of fluffy nothingness back...
This is like a little TMZ sports gossip episode. You go girl!
Man I missed Witty ❤
Of course race. How about he said one MAN is afraid of another MANS intelligence. I didn’t think race at all in Wiley’s comment.
Nah. It was there.....subtle...and meant for those that know the energy of it to acknowledge that. He just can't say it out loud because of gatekeepers and the fact that the message would be lost in that. Stephen A betrayed the message by pointing it out flagrantly to bolster his argument.
More so, a black man being fearful of being exposed by a white man. He has no connection to his people. Just living for a paycheck. From what I’ve heard, he has insecurities about that (not being black enough). It tracks.
@@ricardomayorga9352 well said!
Marcellus was talking about how Max was a MENSA member & that Stephen A's ego was threatened by it. Race had nothing to do with it. It's a shame SA went there.
This the conversation Dan is scared to have..... it's crazy because when Dan touts that he's the one to make the industry uncomfortable his line in the sand is so obvious the blind see it
Marcellus brings up how Max wouldn't play the dumb white guy but SAS is who bought up race... ok
SAS will "as a black man" us to death 😂
He basically didn’t even deny that he disrespected Max and backstabbed him
Can only hope the trajectory of SAS is something like: the higher they climb...
I spit my coffee out when Stugotz replied "The Miners!"
Can we start a board that keeps track of the days we don't talk about Stephen A Smith?? If I wanted to hear a narcissist gasbag yell nonsense, I would watch First Take. I watch this show to intentionally avoid Stephen A Smith, yet somehow Dan brings him up almost everyday
Lebatard taking notice because that’s the treatment he wanted from ESPN.
Steven A always gotta bring in race
For a show that constantly criticizes sports pundits and the landscape of sports debate shows, they sure focus on SAS a whole lot. Every episode is literally focused on SAS and Skip. You’re literally doing the same things you’re against…..
Stephen A ripped up a young Kwame' Brown, actively mentioned that owners shouldn't sign Kyrie to a long term contract and dirtied up Kevin Durant for making a career move that he was free to do. So Marcellus giving him the business, is a welcomes experience.
I’m glad the media members are going at it!
First Things First in a morning schedule would be a bigger challenge to First Take than Undisputed
Him playing the race card is hilarious 😂😂😂
Great show fam yessir keep it honest
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Stephen A isn't used to being called out and corrected.he is a bully who can dish it out but can't take it. Marcellus is 100 percent correct.
Correct that SAS was scared of Max's intellect? The same Max ego says Andre Iguodola is better than Steph Curry? The same Max that declared Tom Brady's career over 7 years ago?
I just think SAS didn't like Max, it's as simple as that. The idea he was scared of him is silly.
Question? When did sports commentaries commenting on each other, become the new hotness. Dan Patrick would comment on it every now and then, in passing, for 3 minutes tops, not a full 30 minutes. This has been getting weird.
It's the negativity cycle and the need to create content
Thanks for commenting on it
Stern and Imus did it to each others. It’s always been done.
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The only thing worse that "sports media" is "political media"..also funny that SAS says someone crossed the line...SAS does that daily.
Dan was spot on about Skip missing Shannon! I don't watch him anymore. Skip and his insults made sure of that!
Wiley responded to Smiths response and Wiley son’d him again
What a surprise Stephan A brought up race 🙄
Lol. SAS instead of being introspective why another black man called Max more black than him, pulls a race card on Marcellus because he is speaking the truth. The way SAS handled Max during his show, getting him fired and taking shots at him years after he is gone shows how he is still insecure. While Max does have some insane head scratching hot takes which is good for TV, on many important issues including black issues he is more empathetic and knowledgeable than SAS. Instead of opening up and learning those things, he closed down, got insecure and being biitter at Max.
Expert in football and basketball, the knowledge is mind boggling, well done Stephen A !!!
SAS on his on podcast be lettin it fly, it’s the only thing that made me halfway like him again. Well halfway is a big of an overstatement lol
I have to admit the same.
I gave him a second or third or fourth chance and then he starts up some serious nonsense talk
FWIW, a lot of McAfee fans watch/listen to him on RUclips still, and not in the way they might watch a 30 seconds FT clip on YT. The average viewer watches McAfee for 45 minutes on RUclips, which is a huge number.
8m in as he is talking is when i realized that Chris Wittyingham was in studio.
No one screams louder than the guilty. Max did trigger a little insecurity in SAS.
Good to see Witty on today.
The OG
Stephen A Smith is keeping THIS show and all of the people who throw rocks at his throne alive!! Y'all owe him some $
We need a board for "Days without talking about Stephen A Smith or sports media". Dear Lord!
I got so excited to hear Chris' voice...thought I was watching Serie A soccer for a sec🎉🎉🎉
I have to say that it's cool to see Witty back in the box.
No, it isn’t.
Fire Amin
Wiley wasn’t wrong.
FYI, both the Sooners and the Longhorns, along with UCF, have Spanish broadcasts for their football games.
Don't agree with Wiley on a lot but dude was on point 💯
If you take a poll of people who watch First Take, they'll tell you, they aren't watching for SAS. It's ESPN, just about sports.
Wiley a real one everyone knows that
I hope Shannon realizes Judis will always smile in your face. I never thought he should have mixed himself up with SAS & honestly Molly is starting to irk me. She’s now thinking she’s a moderator & debater. Now they have to give her time for her thoughts. Really?
Ayyyyyooo, a Witty sighting! This makes me happy 😁. I miss the fancy lad!
Marcellus does a great job of covering behind the scenes in sports media and would be a great addition to Meadowlark. I don’t necessarily see the point in Dan continuing these Stephen A topics. It’s interesting but it’s a bit excessive at this point.
Gets called out, pulls the "card", and no one wants to speak on it lol.
Dan, you Stephen A.'s biggest fan dawg. I guarantee you that you and your show are NEVER mentioned on 1st Take. Ever!
Not so fast my friend... that's cuz he has BOSSES on ESPN that don't ALLOW him to talk about it. Riddle me this... Why is SAS CONSTANTLY talking about Lebatard, Bayless, Wiley, etc. on his RUclips?? For the same reason that Lebatard, Bayless, Wiley, etc. are constantly talking about him on RUclips.... SPONSORS/AD REVENUE. These fools are the sports media version of Joe Budden, Charlemagne, and DJ Akademiks. 💯
@@smokekliffproductions5020 he brings them up when they say something and he responds
@@Atribecalledsuccess Right... for ad revenue. Why does he not respond on ESPN?? 🤔 Cuz he ain't tryna fumble the REAL bag.
@@smokekliffproductions5020 wrong cause enough ppl don’t care Wiley and Dan need the views
@Atribecalledsuccess Ain't that the point of the content business? Getting views? And while we're pocket watching... don't forget to mention the fact that Wiley is pretty much running a one-man, daily show over there (i.e. - he sees the LION share of ad rev AND sponsors) and Lebatard is running a NETWORK... completely different convo. SAS is an employee... one of the BEST... but nonetheless, an EMPLOYEE allowed to have a platform on RUclips that is just as beholden to VIEWS as the network where he is employed. A network that wants NO PART of the foolishness.... which is why he addresses the bullshit on his own platform (to drum up views for ad rev) and leaves it alone on the platform where he is employed (because it actually pays the bills). I ain't hating on his side hustle... it's VERY lucrative.... but let's not act like he's not playing the same game as every other creator.
What does wiley saying sas was afraid of maxs intellect have to do with race? I am so tired of sas an both his ego and antics, its so played out.. playing the race card here was cringe
If I was SAS I would not have wanted Max on the show either as Max is way smarter than him and it was apparent. For SAS to call out Wiley for stating the facts and questioning how a black man can say a white man is smarter than SAS is crazy... I never liked Max because he always sided with blacks on the BLM and other racial issues and did not give the white perspective that SAS was looking for. SAS was right to get rid of him because it is his show, he needs no other reason than that but he looks like a clown now for not just stating the obvious, it was a business decision.
Big ups to Jeremy on dropping "Navel Gazing". Hadn't heard that turn of phrase before. Going to try to add to my lexicon. Practice makes purpose, gotta say it at least a few times per day to get it to stick.
Steven A is foul for saying he got a Max off the show. That should have been between him and the espn. Steven A thought it was a flex but it really made him look bad and karma is gonna caught up. If this was vice versa ppl would be calling Max a raciest.
Max just out there chilling. Hilarious he's the only one NOT talking about his own situation
Am I the only one thrilled to have Witty back??
Nobody:
SAS: You don’t wanna make an enemy out of me. 😐
Comparing the TV viewership #’s of First Take to Pat McAfee is wildly out of touch. No one’s watching Pat on cable television. People are watching him on RUclips like they always have. His clips easily rack up 1 million+ views a day. So yeah, Pats for sure doing those numbers and then some.
Walked out of the room and came back to Jeremy in the penalty box 😂
Views going up!!! Viewing it!!! That kind of thing. 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
It was Pipo in the radio background
lol the original breakfast club imaging
It’s pretty simple: when you have a strong fanbase and a strong platform,that fanbase will take in whatever content you put out. At that point,they are invested in YOU. They are invested in your personality. That’s why this is happening. He has cornered the market of morning sports media
Stephen A, Keep doing what you are doing bro. They all chasing you. Great Job!!
Facts
In 2022 Undispited averaged only 122,000 viewers. They have neither lost nor gained viewers. It's on FS1 they are happy with thier numbers.
Its espn. Any dr office or office at that just turn espn on
Airports, hotels, bars…
Rather hear Lucy talk about college football then ESPN/Stephen a smith talk for the 1000x
I was a junior in high-school in 2003 &back then there was no DVR; not even sure about TiVo. ESPN was on all day every day, maybe we switched the channel to watch HBO but then it was right back to ESPN
Be clear: Dan is helping to boost Stephen A's numbers
Monday was a holiday, so students had the TV on ESPN while doing tik toks, probably.
Omg Dan aint no better then Stephen A at this point 😂 lets talk bout Dan for once tf...
Not trying to be malicious, but First Take is becoming stale. The show, even with Shannon is vulnerable to losing viewers. Also, losing Irvin hurts the program.
Is it possible that Marcellus Wiley made the comment he did because he thinks it's true and doesn't feel the need to bring race into everything?
Lebatard is right about Mondays, it's because of Shannon💯
What up Milwaukee....