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- Max Kellerman and Dan Orlovsky get into a heated debate about Philadelphia Eagles QB Carson Wentz.
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When Steven A does Mollys job better than her
ESPN really expects this man to do everything smh
y2kpa2001 molly always drops the ball, tf u smoking?
Busiest many in sport
Who's Steven?
They're gonna fight and Stephen A is just gonna sit there with a Stephen A facial expression lol
Flex Washington dan would wash max
Flex Washington I got dan. I believe dan was an athlete. Max just watches boxing. Plus we love to see some1 kick Max’s face in a little
Actually I believe max used to train a bit on boxing with his brother. Dan was a QB. I have no idea if he has ever even attempted to punch someone before. I'll take the guy who knows the mechanics of punching inside and out and trained for it a bit over the guy who was an ok athlete but hasn't done it for years.
Marsonis2ya I’ll take the guy who played sports professionally rather than someone who sits on a chair talking about other professional athletes
And Molly somehow will still interrupt
These two will be debating Carson Wentz until the end of time.
philly_ sports Let’s talk about those overrated Sixers
Ben Mangrum 😂 embiid hand be like
👉🏾🤙🏾
@@benmangrum8626 😂
Dak will have a Super Bowl ring before these two get on a different topic.
Wentz could win 3 Superbowls and Max would argue that Foles would've won 5 with the team
i need to find a girl that defends me like how dan defends wentz
I got me one lol
You should hear how he defends Matthew Stafford.
This aged like milk for Stephan a Smith and Dan Orlovsky. Aged like wine for Max.
After today, wentz picking up up nb his ball and going home (and probably fumbling it).... max looking like nostradamus
Its gonna age well when carson wentz gets traded to the colts and starts averaging 6 tds a game
@@willbrench924 your take aging like milk now
@@Tune_316 that wasn't the point of the comment stupid. it was to say that Carson wentz is gonna do well !s a colt. and so far it looks good
@@willbrench924 nope you couldn’t be more wrong
Y’all sure do get “Heated” a lot
foles or mccown would have went 13-3 at worst this year wentz is a cancer he make the team significantly worse dont forget eagles would have had at least 15 points with mccown if they kicked the filed goals instead of going for it on 4th down and mccown didnt play 4th qaurter foles would have won by 2 scores.
@@RobbieStacks90 Nice Bot
@@RobbieStacks90 😂😂🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂🤣
Zenigundam facts bruh
Anybody else likes when Max pisses off Dan
Dan only comes on this show for this...
THABOMB98126 facts it’s fake and all for ratings
Espn wants the drama.
@Giffond Hall Hes been right for 5 weeks now so
doesn't he have an end zone to run out the back of or somethin
Devin G at least he made it to the nfl could you have?
For one of the first times ever, Stephen A didnt take the conversation over and just facilitated it. Actually liked his role in this one.
He did Molly’s job better then Molly does her job
Yeah can we just delete Molly please
For real I don’t like how Stephen a does it most of the time just takes it over.
once stephen became a producer of his own show he started to change
You see the way Max turned when Orlovsky said "corny", Max was like dont get fooled by this suit and these cameras, 😂😂😂
Lol real rap
Max knows how to scrap. Danny boy don’t want it
You know he can box 😂👍
Molly at 6:02 😅😅
Orlovsky was about to get all the smoke from Max 😂😂😂
Dan really called max corny when the words “oh burned” literally came out his mouth seconds before... 😂😭
angel saldana AHAHAHA bro preach
It's basically two ears of corn arguing
@@TheodoreBrosevelt Dan is a buffoon and Max is Harvard educated
Hahahhahahahhahahahahaa
against what calibre teams?
Dan talks like he didn’t run out of the back of the end zone for a safety before.
bruh 😂😂
Leonardo Cucchiara Jared Allen was laughing hard too lol
Everytime I see that man that's all i picture
Rich Boii me too! But nobody ever brings it up in the comments lol.
Facts
He called Max corny 😂
@Jay Stiles no, he's not wrong.
I just can't take Orlovsky seriously. I just roll my eyes whenever he speaks, LOL
Max cool as white boy
toptenguy1 at least he’s not trying to pander to black people. I love people that are just themselves
I'm sorry but max doesn't come across as authentic to me in all honesty
Seahawks win 7 games in 2010....win the division.
Panthers win 7 games in 2014....win the division
Max: "Carson Wentz won 9 games in the worst division we've ever seen."
AfroKenny Good point
AfroKenny hawks and panthers had a much much harder schedule the eagles had arguably the easiest schedule In the nfl
2010 Seahawks beat defending Super Bowl champs saints in wildcard game 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
We Hauling it they only had the easiest closing schedule, they still played the pats, bills, hawks, packers, and several other teams that were supposed to be good, he beat over half of those, they only happened to play the bad teams at the end, but every team had a lot of easy games
BigBarda stfu
Carson Wentz 2019 stats.
4,000+ yards, 27 touchdowns, and only 7 interceptions
Right up there with those guys Max mentioned.
Not that impressive in other nfl franchises.
TheJohnnystockman that’s besides the point, look at what he had to work with
@@PrisonMike117 dude look at Wentz played agisnt all teams with losing records. Cowboys was the only qoute on qoute decent team he won agisnt
Mick a packers and bills??
Max look like he wanted to fight after that corny remark😂😂😂
Bruh Molly hates max she always wants him to be wrong 💀💀💀💀
Its becuz max is wrong
@@Bossrah you can't be wrong when it comes to your opinion bruh , it's your opinion
Gerardo Arias what???
@King_SB every debate somebody has their own opinion, otherwise there'd be no debate come on now
She's clearly attracted to him
5:00 Dan called Max CORNY 😂😂😂
lance Pager mad disrespectful 😂😂😂
He ain't lying..
He literally didn't. He said his take was. He says that's so corny. In reference to his take
He for real said 'oooh burned' seconds before he called Max corny, he got some nerve hahaha
05:05 "you're so corny Max" hahahaha
says the guy who said ooh burned
2019 eagles are the most injured team to make the playoffs. Max should stick to boxing.
M C lol come on bruh every team has injuries no excuses bro come on now.
42 different players have started this year...
Jose there were two starters on offense once Wentz left. One was in and out all year may as well been one starter. This isn’t just some injuries this team is decimated. You even aware of how many there were or you just making a blind comment?
M C you know the Seahawks only had few less injuries right?
Johnny Smith list them, birds had 11 people out just on offense. You aren’t considering the IR and the names on that list.
Max was about to square up when he got called corny 😂😂😂😂😂
Never call a New Yorker corny
Kings Throne XX94 dan used the phase “ oh burned” and he out here calling people corny 😂😂😂
@@ryanabbeyseon Dan would piece up Max. Dan is a professional athlete, I don’t think people understand how much more athletic they are then the rest of us. It’s an enormous gap.
Bruh the iconic run by beast mode vs the saints, team was 7-9 and made the playoffs why he keep saying the worst division in NFL history
Because it helps support his shitty talking points.
Ok, 3rd worst lol. The point is he went on this “hot streak” against the easiest possible schedule AFTER losing to the dolphins
@@Bizzybanks24 I never heard nothing like that about the patriots winning their division every year form the past 20 years
BB Banks Max’s whole argument is that Wentz is underachieving, and that the bar shouldn’t be lowered for him.
But what everyone with a brain is saying is YES, it should. No one else is out there succeeding with practice squad offenses. The nfc East is a trash fire, but they’re still nfl teams that are trying to win, and Wentz beat them all and with guys nobody wanted. That does mean something.
When guys were healthy and at the top of their game, Wentz was an MVP. This year he had none of that help and still made it to the playoffs. Think of it like scoring in the olympics. He achieved success this year with a much higher degree of difficulty.
Wilson Destin because the patriots actually use to be good. And the bills there’s usually another good team, for example the bills were actually pretty good last year. The jets made an afc championship game one year, the dolphins made a wild card a couple times. This eagles team was like 4-6 until they had the easiest 5 game stretch in the league, and still managed to lose to the dolphins. And got bailed out because they got to play the giants twice, the cowboys, and the redskins
Wentz had his top three receivers gone, two top linemen gone, his top two backs gone. He was throwing to undrafted rookies this year.
wenzt went 5-7 with all his recievers healthy and his lineman were healthy those games and wnetz went 5-7 dummy mccowin outplayed wentz and mccoen is a trash 40 year old wentz is a cancer
Ignore Danny Woodson, he has no football knowledge and is prob a nick Foles fanboy
@@dannywoodson5049 you just on every eagles video hating like a bonified clown
I love how Dan always has to bring up stuff like this when talking about Wentz. But then he goes and trashes Dak for having similar issues in various games.
@@dannywoodson5049 his best receiver played one game, i guess you dont know who desean jackson is. The year the eagles one the superbowl, wentz was the frontrunner for mvp and hes the reason they made it to the playoffs and gave foles a chance to succeed.
Orlovsky condescends like we all didn't watch him forget where he was & run out the back of the endzone to help secure a 0-16 season
M. L. What u talking bout dawg
@@kylemiltenberger5279 look at dans highlight....
Not to mention he was 2-10 as a starter with QBR of 58. I guess with that kind of resume you can get a job at ESPN.
KyleAuthentic “highlights” 😂🤣. That’s a good one
@@PHOENIXQ2024 lol not much to look at 😂
Dear ESPN - use this video to evaluate Dan's performance review
Dan Orlovsky is Carson Wentz Girlfriend.
Max: "Carson Wentz is under- achiev-"
Dan: *sceams at the top of his lungs.
Zenigundam Max is more deserving of that than Dan
As a former QB, listening to max’s BS is like nails on a chalkboard to Dan. I can’t blame him for wanting to go fucking apeshit.
@@RobbieStacks90 Nice Bot
@@RobbieStacks90 It doesn't matter that orlovsky was a bad quarterback. He played in the nfl and knows what a quarterback can do, that's why Romo is a good commentator because he played the position
@@RobbieStacks90 I'd put my money on 6'5 230 pound analyst, but good luck bud
Dan feelings hurt 😂😂😂
Daniel Dominguez dan is right
@Austin Madore Silence. You pigeon
@King_SB no max is right Wentz can't stay healthy he litterly only puts up states on horrible teams. They litterly have the worst division in the nfl
@King_SB dude the last 4 games they played look at the teams before u open ur mouth
@@micka3255 Thank you, now I know it is 'litterly', instead of literally. 😂😂😂😂. You can sound so educated but your writing reflects so much ignorance. 😂😂😂😂 'Litterly' 😂😂😂😂
I love when Max and Dan debate each other. They remind me of Odd Couple (Chris & Rob) in a way.
Love the odd couple
It's always one-sided. Dan aint on Max's level, Kellerman too smart.
This aged well
This aged well
Max is the best sports analyst now
Just your casual reminder that dan ran out the back of his own endzone
I think about this every time he starts acting all high and mighty.
The 🐐
He the goat 🐐 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This needs to be brought up on air just for chaos
Yes good one Ben Witzke I remember that this dude is a clown and a fan boy
lmao max got hurt when Orlovsky called his comment corny 5:07 😂😂😂bro squared up lmao
5:08 Max got that look in his eye and body language like he was about to roll. That was some authentic emotion right there.
I agree with Max
max wasnt wrong lmao
Max did sound crazy at the time, but most ppl do when they can see what others cannot.
At least wentz didn’t run into his own endzone
@CH23F G agreed
Oh my god lmfao in hindsight max is a genius
Max was right 🤷🏾♂️😂😂
Since Watson came in the league
Dw- 9716 yards 71 td 29int
Carson-10,403. 81 td 21 int
Ok max 👍🏿
wentz with those stats 7-21 vs teams over 500 stats dont win games teams win games wentz is terrible for chemistry eagles team is much better with foles
Everyone loves him lol but busted old players. Nice try
QB The King that’s since deshun Watson entered the league not Carson career stats I think he like 13000 yards 95 td and 35 int and Carson also had more td than deshun Watson and Patrick Mahomes this yards without players like tyreek hill and Hopkins
Playoff Wins
Deshaun Watson - 1
Carson Wentz - 0
Dak stats is better than those two, so that means dak is better than average
Max is at his best when it gets heated 😶
His delusional arguments suck
Max is way to intelligent to be on this show lol
I agree 100% with kellerman
Would you 2 kiss and make up already over this good God. 😂
I’m with Max on this...The media loves certain guys and loves to make excuses for certain guys...but I can’t lie in all my years of watching football I’ve never seen a player get so many excuses than Wentz...it’s pretty simple he hasn’t lived up to his contract
Im really done defending Wentz and at the point where I just need to to see results.But its kinda hard to live up to a big contract when the entire team is out all year and yet he still carried the Eagles to the playoffs. I really think we win the Seattle game if Clowney dont cheap shot Carson.
Don_Julio I don’t agree it was a cheap shot but I do agree you guys had a better chance and maybe could’ve won if he had played the full game...I think wentz is an amazing talent he has the athletic intangibles but he just has simply not lived up to them...I put a lot of blame on the media though...if they hadn’t hyped him up to be the next John Elway like they did to Andrew Luck I feel as though he would’ve developed into his potential by now...he had a great few games that year when he was in the MVP discussion but so has a lot of other QBs that the league hasn’t seen in the beginning...I think the media put a target on him to become this amazing QB right out the gate and him having that flash of greatness that one year I wish they would all just give these young guys time to really come into there own...
6:03 Orlovsky looks like he's going to cry. LOL
just talk about his career as a 3rd string QB and he'd cry even harder
swiftslick he’s an ignorant hot head that can’t sit through a whole segment without name calling they should keep him off the show honestly
Dan Orlovsky was the QB for an 0-16 which he didn’t start and when he did conceded a abysmal safety , he is the last person to be judging QB good or bad .
I’m not a Max guy but his position aged well.
When is the honeymoon for these two?
Only Dan Orlovsky can make Max Kellerman look like he knows what he is talking about when it comes to QB's. The guy had the greatest physical specimen to ever play the game at receiver in Detroit and he threw the ball up blindly a few times and got some TD's and somehow that causes him to present himself like he is some kind of expert on QB's.
Lmao I love coming back and seeing how dumb Dan Orlovsky sounded during this time. Smh he just comes on tv to defend QBs and it’s actually disgusting.
I’ll say again 19 td and 0 int in the red zone in 2019 ! Carson wentz being in that game in the red zone would have been a game changer
That's not really all that impressive. Winston, the turnover machine, didn't turn the ball over in the redzone until his 4th season.
Tainted Knives that’s not the point the point is wentz would’ve been better then McCown in red zone
I’m a Giants fan, who is winning with that practice squad team Wentz had? He took them to the playoffs.Only thing you can talk about is his injury history.
Floyd Samuels Na he’s just not a winner .. not a good qb .. his team don’t want to play for him it seems like .. but they did for foles
Derek Freeman that maybe the case. He looks for Ertz May too much imo. Foles shared the ball more.
I like how during this segment that Max said McCown did well without their starting RT and RG in Lane Johnson and Brandon Brooks yet when Stephen A brought up that Lane Johnson was out the first time against Seattle and Brandon Brooks only played one series his response was basically "yeah so". Like tf. Bruh you brought it up.
Max to his credit was right about Carson!
I hate listening to Dan because he always sounds like he’s about to cry if you don’t agree with him, I can’t believe this man was a pro athlete lol
Max was right all along about wentz. Sas and Dan look stupid
Lost his job as a result...talking bout Max
The bigger question is why does Dan defend Wentz so much???? I'm confused. Carson is overrated, plain and simple.
Because Dan was a mediocre QB when he played so it makes sense that the he defends all mediocrity even if Wentz was a decent/good QB before the string of injuries.
Davonte O'Neal We went 0-16 😂😂😂😂😂
@@benmangrum8626 And he was a 3rd stringer on that 0-16 Lions squad lol
How is Wentz overrated?
Movie matics he had is his 2 all pro o line men and top 3 wr out and STILL made the playoffs, NO EXCUSES he did it!
These two debating Carson Wentz is straight entertainment 😂😂😂
“How important is Carson Wentz to the Eagles?”
They survived so many injuries to fakes the season alive. The one they couldn’t? Carson Wentz. All that really needs to be said.
P.S wentz’s numbers destroy McNabb’s, despite McNabb frequently having a Top 10 defense. Just a note.
Thank you for sticking to the question. That's the main reason why I can't watch this show anymore. 🥴💀
No they don’t lol and Carson plays in a much more pass prolific league
yea n the 1 year McNabb had a weapon they went to the super bowl
Sheeesh this is a hard watch. How did y’all get through it. They all literally ganged up on Max and he was right! Carson Wentz is out of the league at 30!
These two love arguing when it comes about Carson Wentz
Wentz beats the Giants, Redskins, and Cowboys. McCown loses to Seattle in the playoffs...
Dan Orlovsky “Nobody can win with this team other than Carson Wentz”
🥴
Yung Rasta McCown lost to the hawks, with no practice, and played better than wentz did against the same team
Packers in Green Bay tho
@@isaiahusher7845 Wentz wouldve won that game. Hes one of the best in the red zone and wouldve scored all 3 times they made it there
@@codyjackson245 would've should've could've. Dude hasn't played 1 quarter of playoff football. Playoffs are different from the regular season.
Harrison Nguyen dude will be fine - he’s an elite talent. He catches so much hate for absolutely no reason I’ll never understand.
I'm on Max side here. Not sure why Dan is such on Carson Wentz bandwagon.
Bendji Nzau because Wentz is good dummie
SAS is out here trying to take Molly's job lol. Great job moderating 👏
If only Dan O was good at QBing as he is at running his mouth
This aged well Dan 😭
Since Wentz has been in the league, he’s played 56 out of 64 regular season games & y’all making it seem like hes spent his career on Injury Reserve
Yet he faced the worst teams in the NFL
Giffond Hall how?
Elaine Carnella O'Rourke he’s beat the best & worse teams in the league so whats your point?
Dan Orlovsky has fewer career yards than Carson Wentz has in 1 season.
What have you done in your life again 😅
A55tech coming from a nobody
You’re mad freak show
Regular people: (greet each other in the morning)
Max Kellerman & Dan Orlovsky: Hold my beer
I actually agree with max😂
Amazing how everyone defends these qbs but when Vick had no help, nobody said nothing...
Wentz playing with the high school jv squad
Max: Wentz isn’t playing up to his potential
mccown the trash 40 year old outplayed wentz with same jv squad dummy
danny woodson you have a low IQ
Master Of The Craft very LOW 😭 you can tell the ones who know the game of football & the ones who just repeat what tv analyst say
danny woodson GO HOME Daniel 💀
@@dannywoodson5049 How? They didn't score a TD despite being in the red zone like 4 times. McCown didn't play poorly but c'mon.
Dak beat those teams in the beginning of the season and was considered an MVP candidate with a full healthy roster I
Wentz beats them with Scrubs and it’s whatever
He’s suppose to beat them and he did
If he would’ve lost then Max has a point but he won
And when he lost to Miami
He put up 31 defense gave up 37
Dave Huynh beating y’all wasn’t what made Dak an early MVP candidate. That’s a different conversation.
dak was never an mvp candidate. the narrative was, "if he continues to play like this, he will be considered an mvp candidate, but he hasnt played anyone yet. lets see what happens."
@@poppaDehorn after those 1st 4 games yea he was an MVP candidate. Were you under a rock the 1st half of the season??
@@atate23 no. everyone acknowledged his big numbers but they wanted to see dallas play a team with wins before crowning him...
poppaDehorn let me correct myself. He was a “dark horse” mvp candidate but, if we’re going to get into semantics what makes somebody an early MVP candidate? The media. Narratives about the MVP race are all here-say and opinions. If you’re in the conversation for mvp by multiple media outlets, you’re an MVP candidate.
Max got a strong point on this one he’s getting paid top-tier money but for the past couple seasons hasn’t been a top-tier quarterback
He was ninth in yards and fifth in passing TDs how has he not played like a top-tier Quarterback
But is the one and only QBs in NFL history with 4000 passing yards with wrs under 500 yrds
@@kyj060792 Jameis Winston was 1st in Yards with 30 TDs.....is he a top tier Quarterback? Yeah...didn't think so.
He said “ouuu burned”😂😂 3:03
Max doesn’t know anything about football though. I’m going to take an ex-NFL QB’s opinion about an NFL QB over some random “journalist”.
Lol you ever see the clip of Dan running out the end zone ? 😂 let’s get Mark Sanchez on here 2
This is the same guy that ran out the back of the endzone for a safety on the way to the first ever 0-16 season.
i like dan but it's like enough already dude
needsalt tell Max that please
It’s Max not him
@@aisxery19 max is right. and actually his point is reasonable. the fawning is undeserved so far.
Brandon Brooks and Lane Johnson was out both Seattle Seahawks games when the Eagles played them. Max is dead wrong on that.
Max was spittin😂😂
real talk, max was about to swing at dan after he called him corny hahahahahahahaha
Max would always tell the uncomfortable truth.
It's nice to see Dennis from it's always sunny argue with an actual sport's analyst, look I'm an eagles fan but Dennis needs to shut that loud tone with a guy his own size mouth of his cause if Stephen A or Marcus Spears or shannon sharpe were saying what max was saying Dan/Dennis would not even say a fucking word let alone get loud or sarcastic with them they'd slap him live on tv🤣
Love how Max Clifferman uses "hypothesis" as if his job relates to science...and not gossip
Max will always hate Carson Wentz!!!!
SydlikGamingandComedy 2 he actually said that he was going to be better then Dak during their rookie year but has changed his stance following all of the injuries.
Because Wentz sucks !!!!
facts arent hate wentz is a disease
“The worst division in NFL history” has won the most super bowls and has represented the nfc far more than any division google it.
Party Penguin_Games1229 he means this year the nfc east was terrible😑
Ok thx
he talking about dis year dog..
YnF Rolla is that why he said “historically”? yeah he definitely meant this year lol
YnF Rolla True he means this year, but the Giants went 9-7 in 2011 & won the NFC East & it was called the worst division ever that year... then the Giants win the Super Bowl. Can it still be the worst division if the winner wins it all? I don’t know, it’s subjective, just rambling
At this point, I'm convinced that Dan is in love with Carson Wentz. Either that or they're just best friends. How is it controversial to say that Wentz hasn't lived up to his potential? Yes, they made the playoffs. The only reason they made the playoffs is because the Cowboys sucked, plain and simple.
Flash Forward 2023 NFL Season. And neither Nick nor Carson are with the Eagles.
Can we set up the boxing match for charity between these two 🤔🤣
Would LOVE to see it
that boy got mad he got called corny 😭
Max is finally right 🤦♂️🤣
Sure is
What was he right about?
He’s wrong
I remember when Dan Orlovsky ran out of the back of the end zone lmaooo 😂
Pat mahomes- throwing to tyreek hill Kelsey and Watkins
Watson - throwing all pro Hopkins
Lamar Jackson - will weapons all over the field.
Max you just a hater. Judge the play with all his weapons. Wentz is a great young player. Get the hate out your heart homie.
Max should stick to boxing and he’s not even good at that half the time
5:55 “So he threw for 4000 yards in 4 weeks”...pretty sure that equals 1000 a game my guy😂dan is so dumb
I think he meant he threw for the 4,000 yards within those for weeks. Not that he threw 1,000 yards in 4wks.
Not if there is a bye
That joke went right over your head
@@lethaltalon2493 but he didn't throw for 4000 yards during that time
He was making the point that he didn’t throw for all of his yards in the last 4 weeks, that he actually has to play other teams besides the weak division
Dan Orlovsky is a QB expert? 😂
More of an expert than rapper and boxing fan Max
hes prolly the best QB expert since jon Gruden
of course he was a starter won playoff games didn’t he ?
I'll do you one better. Elway can't find a qb to save his life. But he was a great QB. Stfu
Josh eagles suck
I love how Dan is the one who immediately gets SOOOOO fucking heated while max's composure is so chill, and it's not like Max hates Carson he's just bringing up facts that are not connecting with Dan (guy from its always sunny), Max I feel is the only person that Dan will talk with a loud and sarcastic tone ever in his life
Dan is been wrong for years😂😂😂
They going to ignore that Wentz didn't even get them into the playoffs last year??😂 Foles had to win out after Wentz went out.
I don't get what that has to do with this season
@@donnellbrown4575 CC's saying that Dan goes on and on about how great Wentz is, but he doesn't play in the playoffs and has been bailed out by Foles two of three seasons.
@@donnellbrown4575 Wentz isn't that guy period
@@JoshLewis please tell us what foles done this last year? An if it was not for Wentz in the season they won they would not had won. Because Wentz got them the first seed.
@@eugenerollins985 how can you say he ain't that guy? What proof do you have?