It's more than viable because this test is in 1080p and whith an RTX 3080. When you buy an i3 you rarely buy an RTX 3080 So with an 3060 or 3050 there are mutch less CPU bottleneck! In larger resolution too
@@endy123 I'm in Brazil and exchange rates are messed up right now. I'm expecting B660 motherboard prices to be ~USD190, while decent B450 ones are around USD150.
Where I live 10400f : $130 12100f : $115 I can't really decide because 10400f definitely a better deal, but lga 1700 socket for 12100f definitely more future proof.
It's not better deal, in multicore performance, they are the same, but in single core, 12100 is much stronger, which will give you much more pleasant user experience when browsing, working with office programs, etc.
PCIe 4.0 seems to be the dealbreaker for me so I'm going with the new platform, future GPUs seems like they'll be utilising it alot more then previous generations
I wouldn't say LGA 1700 is future proof, you would've been limited to the same gen (which barely makes sense going from an i3-12100F for let's say an i7-12700F) so you would have to change your motherboard anyway. If you're building a PC strictly for gaming and the 12100F + the motherboard you're gonna choose are way cheaper than the 10400F combo, go for the 12100F
Also notice the i5-10400F almost always has the lower usage between the two, so if you do something in parallel while playing games, the i3 is gonna struggle a little more
The i3 12100f shows respectable performance even with the mighty RTX 3080 at 1080p. With just only 4 cores, the 12100f shows even comparable 1% and 0.1% lows compared to the 6 cores 10400f and even beats it on average fps in many games. This clearly proves that quad core cpus aren 't dead as some people thought years ago to justify spending more money for higher core count cpus for the so-called future proofing.
@@MostafaMaher98 I definitely meant quad core cpus aren't dead for gaming since this is gaming channel. For other types of workloads like rendering and video editing more cores yeild more performance but this isn't always true for gaming workload where ipc and memory latency and clock speed are more important than the number of cores.
@@adamfreeman3319 I would’ve liked to see Shadow of The Tomb Raider on this test. My guess, just like with RDR2 and CP77, the advantage of the 10400f having 2 more cores would show on the 1% low figures. These games eat cores for breakfast.
I3 is more than viable for entry level gaming because this test is in 1080p and whith an RTX 3080. When you buy an i3 you rarely buy an RTX 3080 So with an 3060 or 3050 there are mutch less CPU bottleneck! In larger resolution too
@@nocopyrightgameplaystockvi231 not in watch dogs legion or cp 2077 tho, even my r7 2700 struggles with those games and it is impossible for me to hit stable 60 fps
У i5-10400F загрузка процессора 56%, против 73% у i3 12100F. По мимо игры работает Виндовс и антивирус, которые могут начать обновление, которое увеличит нагрузку на процессор и оперативную память, что приведет к микрофризам. Есть еще браузер, который может висеть в фоне. Лучше i5-10400F с меньшей нагрузкой. ------ The i5-10400F has 56% CPU usage, compared to 73% for the i3 12100F. In addition to the game, Windows and antivirus are working, which can start an update that will increase the load on the processor and RAM, which will lead to microFreeze . There is also a browser that can hang in the background. Better i5-10400F with less load.
Ну i3 12th это не просто i7 7th таковым было 10 поколение тут 10нм меньшее потребление энергии и Боллее ровный фрэйтайм да но вы в чем то правы лучше бы добавили +4 энергеэффективных ядра чтобы исключить фризы в супертрудных ситуациях
Я бы всё равно взял 12100, работать за ним будет намного приятнее за счёт значительно более мощных ядер. А микрофризы не факт что они будут, просто настроить винду чтобы там ничего не просыпалось что сильно грузит процессор, это не сложно.
I choose the 12100f because it has a great IPC with strong single-core. And what's more, it's on a platform that in the future you can have a 12700k or 12900k.
По ФПС i3 12100F объективно лучше. А ситуация в стиле "А что если я включу игру, торрент, порнуху и расслабляющий джаз одновременно ? Тогда i5 победит, ведь у него в среднем загруженность на 11-13% меньше !!!" это бред собачий. Ни в одной игре 12100F не упёрся в 100%, зато работал пободрее. + он меньше потребляет, меньше требования к БП и материнке (можно купить самую бюджетную). + i5-10400F соперничает с 12100F только если с i5 разогнать оперативную память (на видео разгон), у i5 она вроде по дефолту выставляется на 2666, какую бы дорогую память ты ни купил. И придётся всё менять в БИОС. А про 12100F я такого не слышал. Для людей боящихся ползать по БИОС это плюс.
@@user-dh1ii2nc7c Если сам не тестировал то не неси херни, у меня в свое время был выбор между intel 4440 ( ядра потока) и amd FX 8300 (8 ядер и 8 потоков), так как они стоили примерно одинаково, я смотрел тесты на RUclips и на тот момент 2014 года по многим тестам выигрывал intel 4440, да плюс у него встройка. Взял intel 4 ядра и так пожалел, у знакомого был как раз FX 8300 и работал он стабильнее, мы играли в GTA Online, дак у меня больше дерганий было, больше микрофризов. Выбор твой, хочешь микрофризы бери урезанку, зато псевдо ФПС там выше
The ultimate confusion now is to choose whether the 4c8t or 6c8t 🙄 because the difference is negligible with a mid range GPU with which these CPUs will be paired.
Tough choice, i'd probably take the i5 considering it has more cores and threads. Maybe newer games will benefit from those extra cores. This i3 is great tho
@@xClanPkSx Same here. I'm thinking of getting i5 11400. 12th gen and B660 are way costlier here (like 40+%) which isn't worth it because I am not going to upgrade CPU/Mobo for 4-5 years.
@@redrush-hp9li bro intel used to be anti-consumer before AMD into their market now they need to step up their game because of AMD either way we(consumer) win
It's just a shame that it took so long for AMD to be able to give Intel the kick in the ass that they needed. But anyhoo...now that Intel is back in the game, it's gonna be fun to watch these two companies battle for supremacy.
can't go wrong with any of intel's budget gaming CPUs. Depending on what current motherboard you own, people should just go with their current gen cheapest cpu -- and that's it, barring celerons.
I completely agree. Spending money on second hand AMD or Intel just doesn't make sense with the technology improvements that have been made over the past few years.
Учитывая стоимость сборки на 12-м поколении, лучше остаться пока на 10-м. Тут смотрю и мамка на z -чипсете, показали бы h-чтпсет и память попроще, чтобы сопоставить
если уж переходить на 12 поколение, то минимум на 12400 с мамкой под апгрейд. В киберпанке оба проца под завязку, ой3 даже чуть больше, запаса нет, а сборка на нем стоит дороже чем на 10400, то есть смысла от него уже нет(ну или пока нет по актуальным ценам).
I bought Ryzen 5 2600 as my first AMD cpu and it was a disappoinment. i5 9400f beats it in everything except multitasking. The system was a headache to setup (XMP Profile was a nightmare). I'd go with Intel again next time.
i found ryzen systems to be easier to setup personally also r5 2600 will (and has) age much better than 9400f, plus you can upgrade to 5600X without changing mobo. you made the right choice at the time
sold my old i7 4770k+b85m+8gbx2 ddr3+2tb hdd for $120. got 10400f+b560m+8gbx2 ddr4+2tb nvme gen3 with 3d tlc nand and dram cache for $298 all brand new. not the newest and greatest, but it's the best $178 i've ever spent in PC build. now 10400f is an old tech which the value wont longer drop dramatically like its first 2 years in the market. i could sell the same parts in 2025 which i bought this year for 70% of the price i paid, easily especially with the ad title "...still in warranty". cpu nowadays are efficient and powerful af for average consumers like us. the only thing hold us back are those poorly optimized games and apps.
the i3 has fewer but stronger cores which is great for gaming, the i5 would be good if you do more stuff with it, it would be also interesting to see how both CPUs hold after few years when games start requiring and taking a full advantage of more cores
Perhaps. But when would that be exactly? IIRC, people were claiming 4-cores were dead as far back as 2018. And yet here we are, watching a 4-core processor match or beat a 6-core processor in the newest games. The main point to take away from this is that simply paying higher prices for a couple of extra cores you don't need now but are thinking will give you "future-proof" performance simply because of the extra cores is not very accurate. Equating gaming performance to cores is still too simplistic and flawed. Obviously, this is in relation to gaming performance of modern 4-cores and up.
@@kuyt20 we really can't predict the future remember when core 2 duos were outperforming core 2 quad because games back then weren't using more than two cares but eventually quad cores aged better as for the last decade most games haven't made a real use of more than 4 cores because developing games that takes advantage of 4 cores is easier to do and let's not forget intel monopoly that forced the consumer market to be stuck with quad cores, but that could change soon especially with the new gen games and many people nowadays stream and use communication apps while gaming so they would go for a higher core count CPU because having a stable fps is better than higher but unstable fps, but for the meantime even budget CPUs are much better than before and would do the job for most people
@@joshking8713 I get your point, but the majority of gamers are not rich and are not streamers. Why waste money on a higher core CPU when that money can be saved for something that makes more of a performance difference like adding it to your GPU budget? It makes almost no sense for a budget gamer to try and "future-proof" one's CPU with core count when all of the performance difference between super expensive high-end CPUs and budget lower core processors is still just the cache size and clock speeds.
@@kuyt20 I agree, saving the extra cost and getting a better GPU would be a much wiser thing to do since it's where the most performance uplift comes from
@@kuyt20 this is not exactly a 4 core cpu 4 cores actually died. the people spoke about 4/4 CPUs specifically. no one ever said anything above 4/8s. 4/8s are not pure 4 core CPUs. games really scale well with 6-8 threads nowadays, whether they're logical or physical. above 8 threads, we have yet to see meaningful scaling, hence 6/12 CPUs have yet to shine (and we may never know when they will) you can see most 4/8 CPUs scale as if they have 5-5.5 physical cores, and 6/12 CPUs mostly scales as if they have 6 cores, since games cannot take advantage of that many threads, yet (in a meaningful way) in short, 6/12 and 6/6 CPUs perform very close due to games not being that perfect yet 6/6 CPUs and 4/8 CPUs perform very close due to thread scaling therefore, the gap between 4/8 and 6/12 is not that big as one would expect. spice in some IPC / Single thread improvements and suddenly the little scaling advantage that 10th gen 6/12 diminishes. yet you can still see i3 has visibly worse %1s in cyberpunk and drops frames harder. it would probably choke in battlefield 2042 too
10400F still a better deal from where i live , 10400F + mobo deals at the price of a Ryzen 3600 , this is why AMD dont sell well in 2021 , 1700 mobo still a little too pricey.
@@notenjoying666 You mean AMD increasing 5% performance per year? zen 3 such a failure for its price because they sell cpu with less improvements for 2x price, also the CPU is hot garbage and consume more power in gaming as comparison to Intel Alder Lake.
I can't really decide what to buy, i3-12100f or i5-10400f? in my country i5-10400f is just 20$ more expensive and it's 6c 12 threads which I suppose it's better for multitasking than a 4c 8 threads
Do you play heavy AAA?, whats your resolution ?prices ?? If you want to play higher than 1080p and AAA and 10400f + board are less expensive i would go with 10400. Else if you play at lower resolution and something like CSGO and esports i would get 12100.
Depends on a game and how it's optimized, if it's optimized to use more than 4 cores, Ryzen will give noticeably better FPS, if it's not optimized for more than 4 cores, they will give pretty much same FPS
A 4C/8T CPU with a very high IPC may not be dead, but how gracefully will it age? On the other hand, current game engines doesn't seem to scale much beyond 6 threads and so IPC will be important for years to come.
Can I have some suggestion. I'm about to build pc with RTX 2060 6GB. So which better to choose? The i3 or the i5. I mainly play rpg game such as skyrim, witcher, but also shooter like apex legends and moba like Dota. Thank you and have a nice day
@@rahul-qm9fi More advanced intel processors have powerful cores and small (energy efficient cores), but i3 has only 4 POWERFUL cores, it would be nice to add + 4 small energy efficient cores
@@krspy1337 because processors do not have such sensors.All calculations are performed by programs based on algorithms who lie a lot. For example my 9400f sometimes shows over 200W at no load and never goes over 50W under load.
У меня стоит горячий 11900К и никаких проблем, ограничил в биосе потребление 125 ватт и поставил автоматическое напряжение, этого хватает на все игры, частота не опускается ниже 4800 МГц, кулер средний dark rock 4, выше 70 не нагревается
can anyone tell me why the i3-12100f is currently increasing in terms of price? More people are buying it due to its rising popularity, so doesnt that mean that the price should logically decrease?
Wow this new i3 12series seem like a very good option, although idk how good 4 cores will be for the future, y'all think this i3 is a good option for like gaming and streaming?
У тебя какие то неправильные тесты, мне кажется большинству людей интересно, как процессоры поведут себя в стоке(без разгона памяти), на обычным мат платах. Не все же будут их в мамку на Z чипсете устанавливать
I guess with and below 144hz monitor it won't make a difference and just a slight difference above that... If you have budget, higher is always better as an investment... But I would like to see the test in 3060ti.
Keep in mind that i5 10400F only support DDR4 2666Mhz on cheaper mothetboard (you need Z series for higher memory speed). While i3 12100F support DDR4 3200MHz even on cheap motherboard (higher on Z board) So in reality the gap might even bigger because you can use DDR4 3200Mhz on i3 even on cheap mobo, while i5 you will be on DDR4 2666Mhz which might have impact on gaming performance. Nobody buy expensive motherboard and budget CPU
Core i3 is very cheap and not very expensive if we just buy core i3 10th or 11th or 12th . This is the most suitable choice for everyone without spending a lot of money
Why‘d they make the i3 of this gen a 4 core CPU ? If the i5‘s a 10 core then the i3 should be a 6 core CPU. Maybe there’ll be an i3 k CPU that has 6 cores.
pretty missleading benchmark .. people who want 12100f wont run it with 3080 10GB for sure .. if u have gtx1060 or something similar u get 60 fps less then this tests
If there'll be any i believe it'll be from having to use lower clocked memory on the cheaper motherboards. Other than that the performance difference should be pretty insignificant
@@Spido68_the_spectator no no that's not it the cpu power won't be a think the reason is because higher end board use latest and fastest technology posible but in lower in board they use little older and cheaper items to save unnecessary things Eg. Suppose i3 support only upto ddr5 4800 memory the lower end board will atleast support ddr5 4800mhz and in high end board they support 5200mhz and above So if we use i9 12th gen on lower end board memory speed will be limited to 4800mhz.
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Forza Horizon 5 - 0:21 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 1:30 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Red Dead Redemption 2 - 2:37 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2
Hitman 3 - 3:25 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesHitman3
Death Stranding - 4:25 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesDeathStranding
Call of Duty : Warzone - 5:26
PUBG - 6:20 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesPUBG
Horizon Zero Dawn - 7:47 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesH0D
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 8:42 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesMFS20
The Witcher 3 - 9:49 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesWitcher
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For someone in doubt of the i3, I have a 12100f with a 3060ti and it's rocking a 1440p at high fps without any problems
Try 1080p cuz it is cpu bound
@@shinen5941 Why though? It works for their use case. It's irrelevant whether it works otherwise.
thanks im buying a pc with this i3 and its graphics card is a geforce rtx 3050 do you think that will still be good?
@@shinen5941 why would I? I have an ultrawide 1440p monitor
@@zs4580 yeah, exactly
I3 is starting to be a viable choice for entry level gaming.
It's more than viable because this test is in 1080p and whith an RTX 3080. When you buy an i3 you rarely buy an RTX 3080
So with an 3060 or 3050 there are mutch less CPU bottleneck! In larger resolution too
@@Robson_oklm thats not how testing works
@@Robson_oklm Most of the time the GPU is the bottleneck, not the cpu.
Always has been
It always has been, mate.
The i3 is a beast!
Just hope B660 motherboards get reasonable prices, then I'm getting one.
130$ b660 Russia.
I3-12100f 100$ Russia
@@endy123 I'm in Brazil and exchange rates are messed up right now. I'm expecting B660 motherboard prices to be ~USD190, while decent B450 ones are around USD150.
You could always just go for an h610
Find asus h610
@Adrito B no way, 100$ is the price range of h610, normally b660 (with good vrm) usually around 150-200 actually .Real price not msrp im saying
Would be nice to see some more CPU intensive games in these CPU comparisons, maybe CSGO, rainbow six, some other multiplayer games
I don't play those games, so they aren't relevant to me.
@@bradmonk69 no one asked
Since CSGO use like 2 cores, the single core performance of the i3 destroy the i5
@@josecarloslopezpalazzi1698 yeah, i think its more of a cache/ memory intensive game.
@@josecarloslopezpalazzi1698 isn't there multicore rendering that uses more cores than that?
Where I live
10400f : $130
12100f : $115
I can't really decide because 10400f definitely a better deal, but lga 1700 socket for 12100f definitely more future proof.
It's not better deal, in multicore performance, they are the same, but in single core, 12100 is much stronger, which will give you much more pleasant user experience when browsing, working with office programs, etc.
Motherboard prices matter in the end
PCIe 4.0 seems to be the dealbreaker for me so I'm going with the new platform, future GPUs seems like they'll be utilising it alot more then previous generations
I wouldn't say LGA 1700 is future proof, you would've been limited to the same gen (which barely makes sense going from an i3-12100F for let's say an i7-12700F) so you would have to change your motherboard anyway. If you're building a PC strictly for gaming and the 12100F + the motherboard you're gonna choose are way cheaper than the 10400F combo, go for the 12100F
Also notice the i5-10400F almost always has the lower usage between the two, so if you do something in parallel while playing games, the i3 is gonna struggle a little more
I am proud of this new i3 xD it's a beast cpu hiding behind a cheap price
im proud enough if its not crashing
The i3 12100f shows respectable performance even with the mighty RTX 3080 at 1080p. With just only 4 cores, the 12100f shows even comparable 1% and 0.1% lows compared to the 6 cores 10400f and even beats it on average fps in many games. This clearly proves that quad core cpus aren 't dead as some people thought years ago to justify spending more money for higher core count cpus for the so-called future proofing.
except, for work like 3D and video editing, which both of these rely on # of cores
@@MostafaMaher98 I definitely meant quad core cpus aren't dead for gaming since this is gaming channel. For other types of workloads like rendering and video editing more cores yeild more performance but this isn't always true for gaming workload where ipc and memory latency and clock speed are more important than the number of cores.
@@adamfreeman3319 I would’ve liked to see Shadow of The Tomb Raider on this test. My guess, just like with RDR2 and CP77, the advantage of the 10400f having 2 more cores would show on the 1% low figures. These games eat cores for breakfast.
The i3 also has 8 threads now so that probably helps. quad cores arent dead but higher core count certainly has its advantages
@@jebreggie4225 The i3 has 4 cores 8 threads since intel 10th cpu generation.
Just for facts,this i3 might be actually an i7 13700k or i7 14700k if ryzen hasn't show up
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Entry level king...i3 12100
I3 is more than viable for entry level gaming because this test is in 1080p and whith an RTX 3080. When you buy an i3 you rarely buy an RTX 3080
So with an 3060 or 3050 there are mutch less CPU bottleneck! In larger resolution too
9100F was quite enough for 4K60 provided all core clock was 4.0Ghz. 12100F now seems to be viable for large GPUs as well.
this new i3 is fine for any gpu for gaming, even 3090, you won't buy a 3080 to use at 1080p lol, in 1440p it'll have the same performance as an i7
@@HSLPedro the 10100F already matches the 7700K. The 12100F just literally kills of the entire series of Ryzen 3 and 3000 series Ryzen 5.
4k60fps, im running 4770k. 0 problem. my gpu hits 99% before my cpu most of the time
@@nocopyrightgameplaystockvi231 not in watch dogs legion or cp 2077 tho, even my r7 2700 struggles with those games and it is impossible for me to hit stable 60 fps
У i5-10400F загрузка процессора 56%, против 73% у i3 12100F.
По мимо игры работает Виндовс и антивирус, которые могут начать обновление, которое увеличит нагрузку на процессор и оперативную память, что приведет к микрофризам. Есть еще браузер, который может висеть в фоне. Лучше i5-10400F с меньшей нагрузкой.
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The i5-10400F has 56% CPU usage, compared to 73% for the i3 12100F.
In addition to the game, Windows and antivirus are working, which can start an update that will increase the load on the processor and RAM, which will lead to microFreeze . There is also a browser that can hang in the background. Better i5-10400F with less load.
Ну i3 12th это не просто i7 7th таковым было 10 поколение тут 10нм меньшее потребление энергии и Боллее ровный фрэйтайм да но вы в чем то правы лучше бы добавили +4 энергеэффективных ядра чтобы исключить фризы в супертрудных ситуациях
Я бы всё равно взял 12100, работать за ним будет намного приятнее за счёт значительно более мощных ядер. А микрофризы не факт что они будут, просто настроить винду чтобы там ничего не просыпалось что сильно грузит процессор, это не сложно.
I choose the 12100f because it has a great IPC with strong single-core. And what's more, it's on a platform that in the future you can have a 12700k or 12900k.
По ФПС i3 12100F объективно лучше. А ситуация в стиле "А что если я включу игру, торрент, порнуху и расслабляющий джаз одновременно ? Тогда i5 победит, ведь у него в среднем загруженность на 11-13% меньше !!!" это бред собачий. Ни в одной игре 12100F не упёрся в 100%, зато работал пободрее. + он меньше потребляет, меньше требования к БП и материнке (можно купить самую бюджетную). + i5-10400F соперничает с 12100F только если с i5 разогнать оперативную память (на видео разгон), у i5 она вроде по дефолту выставляется на 2666, какую бы дорогую память ты ни купил. И придётся всё менять в БИОС. А про 12100F я такого не слышал. Для людей боящихся ползать по БИОС это плюс.
@@user-dh1ii2nc7c Если сам не тестировал то не неси херни, у меня в свое время был выбор между intel 4440 ( ядра потока) и amd FX 8300 (8 ядер и 8 потоков), так как они стоили примерно одинаково, я смотрел тесты на RUclips и на тот момент 2014 года по многим тестам выигрывал intel 4440, да плюс у него встройка. Взял intel 4 ядра и так пожалел, у знакомого был как раз FX 8300 и работал он стабильнее, мы играли в GTA Online, дак у меня больше дерганий было, больше микрофризов.
Выбор твой, хочешь микрофризы бери урезанку, зато псевдо ФПС там выше
The ultimate confusion now is to choose whether the 4c8t or 6c8t 🙄 because the difference is negligible with a mid range GPU with which these CPUs will be paired.
Tough choice, i'd probably take the i5 considering it has more cores and threads. Maybe newer games will benefit from those extra cores.
This i3 is great tho
@@xClanPkSx Same here. I'm thinking of getting i5 11400. 12th gen and B660 are way costlier here (like 40+%) which isn't worth it because I am not going to upgrade CPU/Mobo for 4-5 years.
If they have the same single core performance, go for 6c12t, if 4c8t gives stronger single core performance, go for 4c
@@angumech13 you just need to wait for budget mobos, and you can go for 12th gen
@@user-mb4xy2cz3t Yes, waiting for that
damn, intel, you're good!
Thanks to AMD made intel be like this 😍
Completely agree!!!! waiting for ryzen7000 though
Thanks to Intel to Made AMD be Like this
Thanks to linus fard tips
@@redrush-hp9li bro intel used to be anti-consumer before AMD into their market now they need to step up their game because of AMD either way we(consumer) win
It's just a shame that it took so long for AMD to be able to give Intel the kick in the ass that they needed. But anyhoo...now that Intel is back in the game, it's gonna be fun to watch these two companies battle for supremacy.
can't go wrong with any of intel's budget gaming CPUs. Depending on what current motherboard you own, people should just go with their current gen cheapest cpu -- and that's it, barring celerons.
Leave Celerons alone
I completely agree. Spending money on second hand AMD or Intel just doesn't make sense with the technology improvements that have been made over the past few years.
Учитывая стоимость сборки на 12-м поколении, лучше остаться пока на 10-м. Тут смотрю и мамка на z -чипсете, показали бы h-чтпсет и память попроще, чтобы сопоставить
Тут у обоих память ддр 4 и мамка на z чипсете роли не играет для i3
@@noyneim436 я вижу, но вряд-ли кто-то берет i3 и мамку на z) поэтому хочется видеть тесты приближенные к реальности, с оперативкой к примеру 3200
B660 top
если уж переходить на 12 поколение, то минимум на 12400 с мамкой под апгрейд. В киберпанке оба проца под завязку, ой3 даже чуть больше, запаса нет, а сборка на нем стоит дороже чем на 10400, то есть смысла от него уже нет(ну или пока нет по актуальным ценам).
@@donmillion8740 ну в днсе уже есть мамки на h и b чипсетах, цены конечно так себе)
i3 12100F
1:47 BOTTLENECK!
Bro he is using rtx 3080 for such 4 core cpu definitely it will bottleneck. For that we should use 3060 of Rx 6600 kind of gpu
@@karan8354 Yes, however bottleneck is very bad sign, it has bad multithread performance, very limited.
@@wolker213 yeah
Its i3 afterall
@@aryanmehra7486 It costs 172 euro, not 100~
Core i5 10400F vs Core i5 12400F next please?
it goes to show you, core count is important but if your cpu has MUCH faster cores it doesnt matter as much as you would think
true
No that only count in games. But in productivity and work loads more cores is better.
dev been dilligently optimizing games for every setup situation so props to them, amd nvidia intel too
they can be lazy and your i5 3330 wont even able to run the game
The i3 does it at a lower power consumption as well
A decent 12 gen mobo costs more than the CPU itself.
At 2k resolution and GPU like rtx 3060ti, i3 12100 is quite viable.
i5 10400f
CPU: 30% usage
152 fps
i3 12100f
CPU: 38% usage
162 fps
The same gpu
does it make sense to you?
So a bit of bottleneck?
Benchmark core i3 12100 with rtx 3060 ti at 1080p
That´s some nasty 45% increase in price for a decrease in gaming performance. 12100f is already a legend lol.
Got my 10400f for 90 at Microcenter.
I bought Ryzen 5 2600 as my first AMD cpu and it was a disappoinment. i5 9400f beats it in everything except multitasking. The system was a headache to setup (XMP Profile was a nightmare). I'd go with Intel again next time.
I was planning to buy used ryzen 5 3600 but deymn intel i3 12100 beat it pretty well! And new 12100 is same price as used 3600 in my country 😐
i found ryzen systems to be easier to setup personally
also r5 2600 will (and has) age much better than 9400f, plus you can upgrade to 5600X without changing mobo. you made the right choice at the time
What is better i3 12100f vs i5 10400f?
sold my old i7 4770k+b85m+8gbx2 ddr3+2tb hdd for $120. got 10400f+b560m+8gbx2 ddr4+2tb nvme gen3 with 3d tlc nand and dram cache for $298 all brand new. not the newest and greatest, but it's the best $178 i've ever spent in PC build.
now 10400f is an old tech which the value wont longer drop dramatically like its first 2 years in the market. i could sell the same parts in 2025 which i bought this year for 70% of the price i paid, easily especially with the ad title "...still in warranty".
cpu nowadays are efficient and powerful af for average consumers like us. the only thing hold us back are those poorly optimized games and apps.
the i3 has fewer but stronger cores which is great for gaming, the i5 would be good if you do more stuff with it,
it would be also interesting to see how both CPUs hold after few years when games start requiring and taking a full advantage of more cores
Perhaps. But when would that be exactly? IIRC, people were claiming 4-cores were dead as far back as 2018. And yet here we are, watching a 4-core processor match or beat a 6-core processor in the newest games.
The main point to take away from this is that simply paying higher prices for a couple of extra cores you don't need now but are thinking will give you "future-proof" performance simply because of the extra cores is not very accurate. Equating gaming performance to cores is still too simplistic and flawed. Obviously, this is in relation to gaming performance of modern 4-cores and up.
@@kuyt20 we really can't predict the future
remember when core 2 duos were outperforming core 2 quad because games back then weren't using more than two cares but eventually quad cores aged better
as for the last decade most games haven't made a real use of more than 4 cores because developing games that takes advantage of 4 cores is easier to do and let's not forget intel monopoly that forced the consumer market to be stuck with quad cores, but that could change soon especially with the new gen games and many people nowadays stream and use communication apps while gaming so they would go for a higher core count CPU because having a stable fps is better than higher but unstable fps, but for the meantime even budget CPUs are much better than before and would do the job for most people
@@joshking8713 I get your point, but the majority of gamers are not rich and are not streamers. Why waste money on a higher core CPU when that money can be saved for something that makes more of a performance difference like adding it to your GPU budget? It makes almost no sense for a budget gamer to try and "future-proof" one's CPU with core count when all of the performance difference between super expensive high-end CPUs and budget lower core processors is still just the cache size and clock speeds.
@@kuyt20 I agree, saving the extra cost and getting a better GPU would be a much wiser thing to do since it's where the most performance uplift comes from
@@kuyt20 this is not exactly a 4 core cpu
4 cores actually died. the people spoke about 4/4 CPUs specifically. no one ever said anything above 4/8s. 4/8s are not pure 4 core CPUs. games really scale well with 6-8 threads nowadays, whether they're logical or physical. above 8 threads, we have yet to see meaningful scaling, hence 6/12 CPUs have yet to shine (and we may never know when they will)
you can see most 4/8 CPUs scale as if they have 5-5.5 physical cores,
and 6/12 CPUs mostly scales as if they have 6 cores, since games cannot take advantage of that many threads, yet (in a meaningful way)
in short,
6/12 and 6/6 CPUs perform very close due to games not being that perfect yet
6/6 CPUs and 4/8 CPUs perform very close due to thread scaling
therefore, the gap between 4/8 and 6/12 is not that big as one would expect. spice in some IPC / Single thread improvements and suddenly the little scaling advantage that 10th gen 6/12 diminishes.
yet you can still see i3 has visibly worse %1s in cyberpunk and drops frames harder. it would probably choke in battlefield 2042 too
so, taking into consideration b660 mobo prices and the prediction that soon games may need six cores, is the i5 10400f a better choice???
No, i5 12th gen better
of course, check 1% lows on multicore games, 10400f is a better option
10400F still a better deal from where i live , 10400F + mobo deals at the price of a Ryzen 3600 , this is why AMD dont sell well in 2021 , 1700 mobo still a little too pricey.
same here, i could get i5 10400f + mobo for 240$ which is the price of a ryzen 5 3600 cpu only
Was waiting for this wanted to see how my 6 moths old processor performs 🥲
6 months??? Nothing
Not only in gaming, 12100f beats 10400f in multicore workloads too.
It’s always better to spend a little more and get the i5 . It will be worth it I promise.
Like what ? Multitask you mean ?
Not in brazil this shit is like twice and more the price
think I made a right choice buying a 10600kf in 2023 , the cpu and motherboard cost significantly less than 12100f yet probably has better performance
Next maybe i3 10th gen vs this 12th gen?
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My opinion : better get i3 gen 12, get ddr5 4800, tdp low than i5 and yound generation
so if this trend continues the i3 13100f can easily beat i5 12400f in gaming..
@@notenjoying666 im comparing an i3 processor with i5
see the performance increase between i5 11400f & 12400f, its about 30-40% better
@@notenjoying666 remember it's i3
AMD Fanboy high on copium alert
@@notenjoying666 You mean AMD increasing 5% performance per year? zen 3 such a failure for its price because they sell cpu with less improvements for 2x price, also the CPU is hot garbage and consume more power in gaming as comparison to Intel Alder Lake.
AMD fanboy high on copium alert
What I'm getting is that it's all in the gpu
I can't really decide what to buy, i3-12100f or i5-10400f? in my country i5-10400f is just 20$ more expensive and it's 6c 12 threads which I suppose it's better for multitasking than a 4c 8 threads
Do you play heavy AAA?, whats your resolution ?prices ??
If you want to play higher than 1080p and AAA and 10400f + board are less expensive i would go with 10400.
Else if you play at lower resolution and something like CSGO and esports i would get 12100.
I would go from 12100F+B660M, would you be prepared for an easier upgrade in the near future to a 12400F, 12600K, 12700K... Which are great!
@@TheOdsystem For only gaming you wouldnt upgrade to a better i5 or i7, especially if you get a 12400. Isnt worth it.
@@TheOdsystem If you want 12400f its better to buy 12400f. Buy 12100f and then buy 12400f is waste of money.
The biggest difference is power consumption. In almost every game the 12100f is consuming 25-50% less power.
and that 25-50% is like 5-10 watts lmao
We need i3 12100f vs R5 5600x 😏
Depends on a game and how it's optimized, if it's optimized to use more than 4 cores, Ryzen will give noticeably better FPS, if it's not optimized for more than 4 cores, they will give pretty much same FPS
Can you compare 11400f vs 12400f you’re the only one real tester out there, almost all others are fake
А ничего, что новый i3 12100f, дороже i5 10400f, Автор видео, где Вы собирали, и с чем сравнили?
i3 12100 made me realize quad cores are not dead, and honestly look pretty darn good for 1080p gaming. Might have to upgrade my i5 9400f to a 12100f
Might aswell sell the 9400f and get a 12th gen i5 they are crazy good
A 4C/8T CPU with a very high IPC may not be dead, but how gracefully will it age? On the other hand, current game engines doesn't seem to scale much beyond 6 threads and so IPC will be important for years to come.
@@GamerYogi. 14100 2 fps more than 13100 but 13100=12100 no reason to spend money
Oh my god i didn't know rtx 3080 could handle 10800p resolution
*10800p*
Can I have some suggestion. I'm about to build pc with RTX 2060 6GB. So which better to choose? The i3 or the i5. I mainly play rpg game such as skyrim, witcher, but also shooter like apex legends and moba like Dota.
Thank you and have a nice day
it all depends on motherboard prices where you are , if the b560 board is decently priced get the I5 if not get i3 if the supported boards are cheaper
I'm still gonna wait for Raptor Lake...but I'm starting to like what I'm seeing from Intel.
Please test 8E cores vs i3 12100(F/non F)
I3 12100f overclocked here and this needs b660m mobo . And b660m is expensive than h610m .
4103MHz it's stok
4 vs 6 cores doesn't affect the i3?
It does looking at the load. 6 cores still is the min you should buy with ideally 8
oh i see ty for the support bros 👍
The older I get the more I am interested in lower power consumption. Funny. That 3080's power consumption I find ugly.
Time to upgrade to the 12100 from my 2700x :D
Im not sure that's much of an upgrade, maybe go for the i5 12400 instead, check for more information just in case
What upgrading from 2700x to 12100 ? Lmao I am going to use my 3600 for at least 5 years
@@thewickedgoblin5573 3600 is a great cpu. I ended up flashing my bios and upgrading to a 5600
@@Grant_S_M ohk
Is it good to get the i5 10400f for long term use?
it is, still can be upgraded to 10700k, which still considered highend cpu
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2 gerações depois e o i3 está se saindo muito bem.
Yeah it will based on 3nm that will be awesome 😍😍😍😍
158 dólares. aqui a gente paga 1.300 reais... Pátria Amada Brasil!
Eu odeio o Bostil
Perigoso ser mais viável comprar um i5 dado o preço que os lojistas vão querer nesse i3, o problema é vender o i5 depois
@@AnonimoAnonimo-du3gz Na real o i3 tá 100 dólares só, mas só esperar um tempo que o preço baixa pra uns 700 reais aqui no Brasil no mínimo.
It barely even matters when you have the rtx 3080 lol
Can i live stream VALORANT at 100+ fps with gtx 1650 + i5 10400f
@Furious iconic okay thanks
the i3 being a 100 dollar cpu casually having 30% more fps than my 130 dollar cpu
Are 4 cores enough for future ?
Really no point in the i3. If you needed an upgrade you’d opt for the i5 12400. But yeah still too early. The i5 10400 still doing fine 2 years later.
Urgently give i3 12100 + 4 E cores and it will be a masterpiece!
what do you mean?
@@rahul-qm9fi More advanced intel processors have powerful cores and small (energy efficient cores), but i3 has only 4 POWERFUL cores, it would be nice to add + 4 small energy efficient cores
@@zonelore thank you!
core i3 12th gen vs core i5 10th + mx 130. Which will win for all rounder
😎👍 Core i3 12100F
İ3 12100 might as well be a laptop cpu with that power consumption lol.
These are fake indicators. CPU's do not have power sensors.
@@user-of3ir6no3i how not? who did tell u that?
@@krspy1337 because processors do not have such sensors.All calculations are performed by programs based on algorithms who lie a lot. For example my 9400f sometimes shows over 200W at no load and never goes over 50W under load.
@@user-of3ir6no3i ofc the miscalculations are going to be here, but they are showing the possible temperature that is having, thats what i mean
true though most are innacurate, use wattmeter
i5 1040 is value for money
Интел встает с колен. Наконец-то холодные и производительные процессоры!
У меня стоит горячий 11900К и никаких проблем, ограничил в биосе потребление 125 ватт и поставил автоматическое напряжение, этого хватает на все игры, частота не опускается ниже 4800 МГц, кулер средний dark rock 4, выше 70 не нагревается
@@user-mv2wn4iy7h а 12 поколение можно поставить, ни в чём ему не отказывать и оно будет выдавать свою заявленную производительность
Will H610 with 3200MHZ Ram give same results for 12100?
0:27 Please can someone tell me the name of this background music??
11400 vs 12400?
can anyone tell me why the i3-12100f is currently increasing in terms of price? More people are buying it due to its rising popularity, so doesnt that mean that the price should logically decrease?
Law of supply and demand. The higher the demand, the lower the supply will be and hence price increase.
@@twicejeans ah thanks. I dont possess a lot of knowledge about this kind of stuff : D
Does ram speed make much of a difference on the 12th gen chips, or is it similar to previous generations?
No, not much. Just go for 3600 cl 16 or 3200 cl 14/16.
Ddr4 tight timings runs even better in most game than ddr5.
I got my 10400 free and a z490 for 70€ so can't complain.
What timings are you using on the ram at 3600?
Wow this new i3 12series seem like a very good option, although idk how good 4 cores will be for the future, y'all think this i3 is a good option for like gaming and streaming?
Only for gaming, not for both, you will need an i5 or r5 if you want to stream too
@@inigosusaetaherrera4230 thanks i think I'll go with the i5 10400 since its rather cheap rn.
Can we play gta v in Midum setting with almost 70/80 fPS at this processor
У тебя какие то неправильные тесты, мне кажется большинству людей интересно, как процессоры поведут себя в стоке(без разгона памяти), на обычным мат платах. Не все же будут их в мамку на Z чипсете устанавливать
14th gen Intel
Core i9 9900k: 120fps
Core i3 14100: 140fps
How is a i3 with 4 cores and 8 threads beating a cpu double that number
Faster ipc. i3 12100f trade blows with Ryzen 5 5600x in STP. i3 12100f > R5 5600x > R3 3300x
new tech platform called ipc
i3 12300F at 130€ VS Ryzen 5 4600 at 250€
And Intel wins XD
Same video in Both side 😂😂 he making us fool
I guess with and below 144hz monitor it won't make a difference and just a slight difference above that... If you have budget, higher is always better as an investment... But I would like to see the test in 3060ti.
i have 3060 ti 11400f, which games do you wanna know
@@3169 fc6
@@amlanmaity2538 i dont play fc series
@@3169 even you didn't play fc3?!!!!
@@amlanmaity2538 my old pc couldn't handle it and didn't have time on my new pc
Did you test it with the stock cooler?
competition is beautiful...the pocket loves it to death
I3 12100 rtx 3060 ti
Bottleneck?
No
even 3090 wont bottleneck if you game at 4k
of course it will, at least you play at 1440p
Keep in mind that i5 10400F only support DDR4 2666Mhz on cheaper mothetboard (you need Z series for higher memory speed). While i3 12100F support DDR4 3200MHz even on cheap motherboard (higher on Z board)
So in reality the gap might even bigger because you can use DDR4 3200Mhz on i3 even on cheap mobo, while i5 you will be on DDR4 2666Mhz which might have impact on gaming performance. Nobody buy expensive motherboard and budget CPU
You can put 10400f on b560 and the you can have ram with higher frequency like 3600mhz
you don't need z series you can put it on b560, they are cheap
And the i3 also support pcie4 & ddr5 4800
I give a draw point as both performs almost as similar and better depending on the games
Core i3 is very cheap and not very expensive if we just buy core i3 10th or 11th or 12th . This is the most suitable choice for everyone without spending a lot of money
R.I.P i7 9700, R5 3600, R7 3700X, 10400...
Why‘d they make the i3 of this gen a 4 core CPU ? If the i5‘s a 10 core then the i3 should be a 6 core CPU. Maybe there’ll be an i3 k CPU that has 6 cores.
Would i3-12100F bottleneck with gtx 1080, and if he would which card i should take instead?
i think it won't bottleneck
pretty missleading benchmark .. people who want 12100f wont run it with 3080 10GB for sure .. if u have gtx1060 or something similar u get 60 fps less then this tests
for stream is better i5 10400f?
Stream using nvenc
10400f cause multitasking
My 10400 😂
😂😂😂😂 in just 1.5 years 😂😂😂
Have you compared 10400 vs 12400?
anyone knows if there will there a big performance loss with the lower end motherboards ?
If there'll be any i believe it'll be from having to use lower clocked memory on the cheaper motherboards. Other than that the performance difference should be pretty insignificant
Yes if you use i7 or i9 (high end cpu) in lower end motherboard
It will hapeen IF the maximum power they can deliver to the CPU is lower than the max TDP
@@naoton201 not if the board is able to deliver the power needed
@@Spido68_the_spectator no no that's not it the cpu power won't be a think the reason is because higher end board use latest and fastest technology posible but in lower in board they use little older and cheaper items to save unnecessary things
Eg. Suppose i3 support only upto ddr5 4800 memory the lower end board will atleast support ddr5 4800mhz and in high end board they support 5200mhz and above
So if we use i9 12th gen on lower end board memory speed will be limited to 4800mhz.
12100f master race
this should be interesting launch,,
but Miner and Scalper still rampant
Which one do you think works better with an Rtx 3050?
crysis still struggling lol haha
One question, the i3 is working with ddr5 or ddr4