Tom Keatinge - Sanctions are one of the Best Levers Over Russian Illegality - If we Apply them Fully
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- Tom Keatinge is the founding Director of the Centre for Finance & Security (CFS) at RUSI. According to The Economist, Tom Keatinge is one of a small group of '‘White collar vigilantes and poachers-turned-gamekeepers’. Tom’s research focuses on matters at the intersection of finance and security, including the use of finance as a tool of intelligence and disruption. He has a Master’s in Intelligence and International Security from King’s College London, where his research focused on the effectiveness of the global counter-terror finance regime. Prior to joining RUSI in 2014, he was an investment banker for 20 years at J.P. Morgan.
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Ive stopped watching mainstream news because now i have this great channel please keep up the work
Thanks for this! I am grateful to you, Johnathan, for following this topic, this grave topic, so assiduously. The work you do is so important.
Ditto, and Thanks Johnathan for all your hard work… 💙💛💙
Thanks for bringing in the best of the best guests who actually know what they are talking about 😊
Thanks for this insightful interview.
Curtain! You are only 2000 away from 100k subscribers! All these shared interviews are great, and informs viewers that there are a lot of examples of sites/researchers/commentators with slightly different foci. Congratulations. You deserve it.
Almost there! Thank you.
It's not Ukraine that must must win, but the principle that borders should be established by agreement, not imposed by force. Moscow has agreed several times to the currently recognized borders of Ukraine and has repeatedly violated those agreements. We need to end the age of conquest and that’s worth fighting for .
@@Cchildr102Agreed, but Ukraine must win to help secure this.
Thank you Jonathan for the fantastic conversation with Tom Keatinge . We need more people like him to make our Peremoha closer ! 👍👏❤️✌️✌️✌️💙💛
Thank you, Jonathan and Tom for this interesting talk.
Glory to Ukraine.
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Best interviews on RUclips!
Thanks Jonathon🙏🇺🇦👏💪
Great interview. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦 😊
Excellent guest!!! Bring him back again!!!
How lucky we are to have access to what people of the calibre of Tom Keatinge have to say. Thank you Jonathan
Yes!!! All in, this dilly dallying is costing lives & creating unneeded devasation. "It's not a marathon" sums it up so well.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦💙💛✨🌻✨💛💙🇺🇦
Excellent conversation covering a topic often neglected by mainstream media. Many thanks.
Thanks for the update and views 🇺🇲🇺🇦
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Tom Keatinge was clear headed and well spoken. Good interview.
Another great interview. Thank you so much! ❤️🇺🇦
The notion that Russian assets are somehow protected by international law while Russia breaks every international law up to committing warcrimes is mind boggling.
...and the United States?
That's the problem with terrorism. It isn't good to stoop to the same level to fight it.
Rodrick the Kremlinheart
@@toi_techno it appears that russian money is worth more than Ukrainian lives and must therefore be given protection under international law. Western business assets in russia bypassed international law when they were suddenly 'sold' at knock down prices.
That is called "hypocrisy" frequently used by morally bankrupt cowardly selfish opportunists also known as "bankers".
Great work, as always guys. Great info put together as a whole. Very rare and great quality.
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Excellent, as always.
Thanks for another interesting interview .
Absolutely agree another great show
In regards to the question on the effect of Brexit around 36:00-37:00.
Unfortunately it has only weakened the UK and divided Europe, much to the delight of Putin.
We should start on the path to rejoining the EU with all haste to repair the damage Brexit has done.
Fabulous discussion with Mr Keatinge, I’ll surely need to watch this Silicon Curtain episode a few more times!
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Excellent discussion as always! 🇺🇦✌️
Thank you
Thank you, Jonathan and Tom Keatinge, for this very insightful conversation.
🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦
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Fantastic speaker 👍
We should think a step further. That Putin chosed an economist as an war minister must not mean Russia plans an infinite war. It also could mean the West should think he has endless recources or he simply want somebody without a network in the military to avoid another mutiny.
I think Vlad Vexler is right on this one: It's about Putin's regime security.
Professor Jeffrey Sonnenfeld had a very brief but highly popular appearance on your show and you proposed to invite him back. When will that be?
Giving Ukraine everything it needs to win this war and Ukrainian integration into the EU and NATO is the west’s best self defense.
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Comment like and subscribe? Very well! A small price to pay for the best there is..please keep on Master Fink! Chapeau for highlighting with your characteristic insight the deep darkness possessing our enemy..Slava Ukraine! x
Would the Orcs admit defeat if they were pushed out of Moscow. Probably not if Putin was still alive.
It'd be a start
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The yanks gave Moscow eight years of practice after ‘14 with minimal sanctions (while Berlin rewarded moscow) continuing the practice
To my recollection, the American and Western European policy of appeasement towards Moscow goes back longer
Happy Independence Day from across the pond. 😂
I am still laughing that your PM from California called for election on July 4th.
Non governmental assets of oligarchs must far transcend 300 billion in gov assets. Maybe after the first week of November US can tighten legislation further and head in on a trillion or so. I suspect a lot of these assets truly are in Russia. Also, a multi national governmental research and prosecution team with plenary powers and lots of money freezing, seizing and litigating ill gotten gains. Temporarily seizing assets is absolutely a no brainer. Look at WWII. Ukraine is Russia’s Poland, 1939.
Interesting conversation. The Chinese bond issues targeting Russian investment/repayment is speculation I have heard of lately. It fits. I see Xi, the CCP, and other internal interests inflicting a thousand cuts to heal humiliations. Can you say 海參崴 ?
I thought the delivery of more air defence to Ukraine was exactly because to protect the future rebuilding projects. But it seems that i was wrong in thinking that there was a strategy behind this
I'm your broken record....the west does not want to defeat russia. All the discussions in the world will not change this, but its interesting to hear them and they mostly confirm my view - so thank you!
This is true for the USA and most of Western Europe. Not necessarily the rest.
Frontline states? Most certainly not.
@@henriikkak2091 I completely agree with you that the frontline states of central and Eastern Europe don't think this way. They have a similar historical experience with the russians as Ukraine has had and they understand what russians are, how they think and how they behave. It's the USA and western Europe who don't want the russian empire to collapse. For different reasons, Germany falls under this category too, despite having experienced some of the worst russian atrocities (I'm sure many elderly Germans in their late 80s and 90s will remember them).
Looking forward to the EU & UK to adopt and enforce the level of sanctions the United States has imposed to punish Russia for its aggression against the Ukraine!
Quit being so two faced and do the right things!!
Sunak strengths were not fairly explored. Maybe he didn’t think he should explore them? Don’t know. He lost. But he was good at rallying and putting in what we could. Maybe it is too scary for voters to be so committed to helping Ukraine so the politician keep quiet
The UN is a better lever, if the impostor the representatives of an impostor were not being enabled to stop it.
Why not use block chain technology to ensure integrity and accountability in Ukraine (....and elsewhere)?
Wuzup Jonathan. I've got
Lei's Real Talk channel 😊.
She's worried China might go through a civil war
Let's face it, rasputin is the new version of bin laden, the anti Democrat western tyrant of modern age
I always thought it would happen because i plan it,don't wait to get robbed by a stranger,well hell im 53 and im still learning,sometimes you need to change the deck c,,,,not the hand.
This gentleman is talking sense. There's no point in reconstruction unless Ukraine wins. And Ukraine can not win. So, there's no point.
Why are the eu and Britain still buying Russian gas
Not anymore
Only Spain, France and Belgium from Europe are still buying Russian gas in 2024
@@martinlatvian5538its still being sold as lpg by tanker. Through secret routes. Sky did a documentary about it
@@martinlatvian5538 yup, the EU and Britain would rather pay 3 to 4 times more . good luck with that
@@RodrickLionheart wtf You talking about? Gas in Latvia now costs as much as in 2021. :D
Ah good old global community. 1.4 1.3 billion people of the west
Inversely the new axis of isolationist authoritarian regimes, most heavily sanctioned countries, failing economies, population crises, and massive poverty?
@@EEX976236.6 billion remaining people. F 15ex is amazing beast but its headed to democratic saudi arabia not ukraine. The rafales are going to uae
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Agree mostly but here in America any D or R replacement candidate might do better in Swing states and with independent voters or minorities or women voters or Hispanics? I😮I
Thank you, Jonathan. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
We just don’t think we ourselves are at war with Russia. We’re not in a war. Even if Ukraine is
This is one of those videos that will not age well...
The junkyard dogs keep barking and the wagon keeps rolling 😂
“Russia doesn’t care about international law & norms”. 😂😂😂 The emperor is naked. Look in the mirror.
Are you fit and kit ready or will the Russian Orks use your basement
a comment section full of mindless automatons...
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Silicon curtain. Why don’t you do Israel?
Maybe because this is a blog about Ukraine.
Keep ignoring BRICS+
It’s a loose collection of collapsing economies.
Not one of them have an internationally tradable currency.
Only India 🇮🇳 is on positive economic footing. India 🇮🇳 & China 🇨🇳 are mortal enemies.
Don’t keep your hopes up about BRICS +.
Just like the non aligned movement before BRICS 😅.
poachers-turned-gamekeepers is too British a phrase for your audience, most of whom are aren't British.
I am Canadian, but I know what it means, as my grandfather was a gamekeeper.
Just as expected, this speaker didn’t recognize the fact that the sanctions have failed, but instead called for doubling down on said failing sanctions.
If you want to know about why they failed, listen to Chichvarkin (Russian businessman who fled to London 15 years ago). But in a nutshell:
1. These sanctions are the first in history which didn’t target the country’s exports, but instead targeted imports. Case in point, when they sanctioned Iraq and Iran, they banned all oil exports. Meanwhile, Russia is free to export as much oil, gas, grain, fertilizer, and timber, as people are willing to buy. And people are willing to buy them, including westerners. Needless to say, the Russian government is making bank. Enough bank for them to buy whatever they need.
2. Sanctioning imports to Russia. You wouldn’t need to do this if you would have put an embargo on their exports, as they wouldn’t have any money to buy foreign goods.
3. Barring Russians from the west. Chichvarkin puts a LOT of emphasis on this. But this guy here totally misses the point. The fact that various Londongrads existed actually hurt Putin, because the drivers of the Russian economy could park their money away from his control. Now, that has gone out of the window, and capital flight from Russia almost impossible. Meaning that money made in Russia, stays in Russia, and works towards the war effort. Compounding this is the fact that it is nearly impossible for Russians to immigrate to the west, transferring their capital. Take a successful businessman, engineer, IT professional, etc. A lot of them wanted to move to the west after the war started. However, they have difficulties getting visas, registering businesses, opening bank accounts, etc. If they want to move to the west, their only option is to leave everything in Russia, flee as a refugee, and start from scratch somewhere in Europe, working odd jobs just to barely get buy. In fact, a lot of them went through this and decided to move back. Imagine going from making $150k+/year to bagging groceries at a Walmart. The result? Most of them ended up staying or returning to Russia, and they are now contributing to the Russian economy, either directly or indirectly fueling the war effort. Therefore, it is the western sanctions that prevented a capital flight as well as a brain drain.
Why am I so fixated on Chichvarkin? There is a quote he made, “The West basically put up an iron curtain, preventing anything from leaving Russia and coming to the west, while at the same time throwing large sums of money over that curtain”. On top of that, he noted that apart from the occasional lip service, the west rarely engages with the Russian opposition. For example, they didn’t facilitate the creation of a government-in-exile. This is why he, as am I, are convinced that the west not only wants to keep an open door with Putin, but they would prefer to deal with him than anyone else on matters regarding Russia. And this makes sense as for 22 years, they have been reliably doing business with him. They don’t care about “democracy” or “freedom”. All western leaders have ever cared about is a reliable flow of goods and capital. Saudi Arabia is another good example of this. They can turn their opposition into minced meat (literally), but as long as the oil flows for a good price, nobody cares.
Furthermore, and you can hate on me all you want, I am 99% sure that Russia will win this war. Not because they are powerful or anything, but because judging by their actions, the leaders of the west don’t want a Ukrainian victory. Nor is the western public for that matter. The speaker brought up secondary sanctions. And yes, combined with an embargo on exports from Russia, it will probably work. But nobody is going to do that because it will tank the western economies. Nobody in power is going to sign off on such a thing, as it means losing the next elections.
I do tend to think these are valid points, and I do indeed listen to some of chichvarkin’s interviews.
Horse waste.
Not failed but they working over several years.
@@SiliconCurtaindid he hit the text limit??