I got the delanclip today (jan2020). The kit came with everything needed including a monitor bracket for the camera. Some other review state that they did not get one so i though i would clarify this. Great product. So much so, that i am on every single review of the delanclip on YT and stating this fact. The packing of the product alone will impress you. Get the delanclip....or pay 3 times as much for trackir. Your choice.
Hi Stephen, We had a bit time to watch your review. Would you be able to tell exact weight of each of our units ? Regarding the price of our products, we are more expensive, but nobody mentioning that for the price we sell, people gets outstanding customer service. You should also ask one question: what happens when the unit get broken ? How other will come across that situation ? and yeas, they give only 1 year in warranty with an unknown approach. Where we - we just need a simple evidence, a video or picture. And there is no questions asked, we will post brand new unit with a brand new 2 year warranty. I think people does not realise that. And this is one of the factors which we personally learnt in our lives, "if you buy cheap, you buy twice". Of course, I am not thinking about buying well over priced products like TrackIR, as we cannot compete with such a big brand. All the best and thanks for the video - it is a lesson which we appreciate, thanks to this video, we can work on improving our products as well as the service.
Just found out about you and even though I am using opentrack + a smartphone, I will probably buy your wireless kit as it definitely fixes the limitations I am getting from my current setup. Love the fact that this seems to be a one man company offering a solution to head tracking. Also love the fact that you do not stray away from offering advices even on your own website. Like you are even advising people to try their own webcam if they have one laying around the house, without buying one from you. That right there is marketing done right. Well done, sir. You deserve all the support with your company.
Hey I’m very interested in your product! I wa wondering if you’re wireless track clip is compatible with track ir 5? Yours seems substantially built better than the track ir pro clip
Just finished nodding my old ps3 camera, now I'm gonna get the UTC 2 regular. I tested it and it's working great, it sees nothing but IR, which it sees perfectly. If you're wondering how I did this, I took an old playstation "eye" for ps3 cam I had laying around and opened it up (this was a nightmare, sony REALLY didnt want you getting into the eye camera. Once open I removed the lens and removed the IR filter. Then I reassembled it, and tested it for picture quality by plugging it into a ps3. Then I used a small 25mm hi pass filter from Amazon on the end of the lens to make it see nothing but IR light. Now all I need is one of the clips sony sold to attach it to my monitor, the £3 drivers to work in my pc, a utc2 regular and tracknoIR.
@@Thatonedude90 Well... arguably, a good product doesn't have to be expensive. There's software that matches your face with a digital character on screen. Even expressions you make. VTube Studio on Steam is FREE. And there's that "Disney princess face" app or filter for phones. Head tracking would only need to track the tilt of your head. Not even translate it to a 3D character with expressions. I'm not a programmer. But how hard could it be to just tether an in-game cam to... head tilt software? I dunno... I'm probably missing something.
@@Xsuprio look into AItrack and Opentrack (both needed) and a web cam. thats all you need, there are good instructions out there that explains the process. It's easy to install head track software. I use it for a flgiht sim IL-2
Thanks for the review. This was extremally helpful. I really like the DelanClip Fusion from Delan Engineering but the shipping is outrageous, half of the cost of the item. It is a shame as I am sure they would sell more.
Thanks for the great review. I sit roughly 800mm from my monitor, is this too far for the UTCII? Not even sure if I would be able to get it in SA after the global pandemic calms down.
Right now on Amazon there is one for $180CAD from china and the rest are over $300 . I ordered the $180 one , it came a month early and it's the real deal.
Excellent product survey. Thanks for the work you put into this. Do you have any Delanclip promo coupons you can share? The shipping cost to the U.S. seems a quite absurd 19.99 to 26 pound sterling.
Thank you for the overview, i guess i give the delanclip a go,i play IL-2 for a month or so and need a better solution for looking around in the Cockpit, and track ir is just to much money for playing singleplayer every now and then.
Is there any difference in game software support vs. TrackIR? Do these just appear as additional HID game controller axes as far as software is concerned? I'm a little unclear about where the configuration software comes from.
Not that I have come across. There is no difference regarding the functionality of the two either. Everything that worked with my TrackIR 5, works perfectly with these setups. Games that have TrackIR support often have a setting that needs to be enabled. The actual configuration happens in the software itself, not the game (responsiveness, turning curves etc). Both FacetrackNoir and Opentrack use the Freetrack protocol to emulate the presence of TrackIR, with a dummy TrackIR.exe file. (The option is there for games games that require it), some games work natively with Freetrack without requiring a dummy exe, but most of the games I play require it.
Friend of mine made his own clip and used a ps3 eye camera without issues. There should be numerous guides online about making your own clip and what you need to do with the camera. Unfortunately this is an area I know very little about, so I can't be of much help.
Depends on your budget. UTC is the cheaper option, but both are excellent. You can find the links to both in the description box to check prices of the various models. I outlined the prices in the video :)
I don't really care about the cost...what I DO care about is how my TrackIR5 decided to nope tf out on me last night. Unplugged it and plugged it back in and now, no lights, not showing up in Device Manager, not detected by the software...not even the USB "badoop" sound. Nothing. Totally dead. I have no problem paying for good stuff. I DO have a problem paying for junk that self destructs for no apparent reason after very, VERY little use. THAT is unacceptable. I'll NEVER buy or recommend TrackIR to anyone again, ever.
The trackclip pro mounts on the left, I recall these headtrackers recommending left side if you are using a TrackIR camera, but I'm not sure where I saw it now, since its been quite a while since I last checked. Mine is mounted left side, since I will hopefully be getting back my old TrackIR 5 sensor in a few months (currently using a ps3 eye camera).
I have an old TrackIR 3 cam found in my boxes, but no software nor the clip. Could I use Facetracknoir software with a delusion clip? Or what do you advise? And I dind´t understand which camera do you use. thank you.
I'm using the ps3 eye camera. Not sure if TrackIR3 will work with FacetrackNoir. It is possible to mod the camera yourelf, but I'd recommend getting it from Delanclip or Trackhat already modded. As far as the clip itself goes, they all work really well.
As long as the camera can track all the LEDs it should work fine. The rotating should not be an issue unless it rotates while you are actually playing. Otherwise you can use speakers and attach the head unit to a headband.
The link is the description box, but here it is again (forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=159647) , there is an email address you can reach them from. VGD Devices is based in Poland.
@@ParticularPixels It's practically free and doesn't require camera modification: ruclips.net/video/ajoUzwe1bT0/видео.html I was just wondering how it compares and thought that you could give your opinion on it. All I had to do was print out a pattern, paste it on cardboard, mount it to my hat (using magnets) and voila!
I use a high end 55 inch 4k tv with low latency and 120 refresh and all that stuff so i sit around 6 feet from my monitor..is that too far ( around 1650mm to you metric fans)
I got the delanclip today (jan2020). The kit came with everything needed including a monitor bracket for the camera. Some other review state that they did not get one so i though i would clarify this. Great product. So much so, that i am on every single review of the delanclip on YT and stating this fact. The packing of the product alone will impress you. Get the delanclip....or pay 3 times as much for trackir. Your choice.
Hi Stephen,
We had a bit time to watch your review.
Would you be able to tell exact weight of each of our units ?
Regarding the price of our products, we are more expensive, but nobody mentioning that for the price we sell, people gets outstanding customer service.
You should also ask one question: what happens when the unit get broken ? How other will come across that situation ? and yeas, they give only 1 year in warranty with an unknown approach. Where we - we just need a simple evidence, a video or picture. And there is no questions asked, we will post brand new unit with a brand new 2 year warranty. I think people does not realise that. And this is one of the factors which we personally learnt in our lives, "if you buy cheap, you buy twice". Of course, I am not thinking about buying well over priced products like TrackIR, as we cannot compete with such a big brand.
All the best and thanks for the video - it is a lesson which we appreciate, thanks to this video, we can work on improving our products as well as the service.
Thanks for the comment! I've added the weights and battery time into the description box for those interested :)
very good response, If I didn't already have a TrackIR, I would definately go with Delan
Just found out about you and even though I am using opentrack + a smartphone, I will probably buy your wireless kit as it definitely fixes the limitations I am getting from my current setup. Love the fact that this seems to be a one man company offering a solution to head tracking. Also love the fact that you do not stray away from offering advices even on your own website. Like you are even advising people to try their own webcam if they have one laying around the house, without buying one from you. That right there is marketing done right. Well done, sir. You deserve all the support with your company.
@@1ceb0xcfbl Thanks for your feedback! We will be grateful to see you on board!
Hey I’m very interested in your product! I wa wondering if you’re wireless track clip is compatible with track ir 5? Yours seems substantially built better than the track ir pro clip
Just finished nodding my old ps3 camera, now I'm gonna get the UTC 2 regular.
I tested it and it's working great, it sees nothing but IR, which it sees perfectly.
If you're wondering how I did this, I took an old playstation "eye" for ps3 cam I had laying around and opened it up (this was a nightmare, sony REALLY didnt want you getting into the eye camera. Once open I removed the lens and removed the IR filter. Then I reassembled it, and tested it for picture quality by plugging it into a ps3. Then I used a small 25mm hi pass filter from Amazon on the end of the lens to make it see nothing but IR light.
Now all I need is one of the clips sony sold to attach it to my monitor, the £3 drivers to work in my pc, a utc2 regular and tracknoIR.
I shattered the lens in my ps3 eye while doing this because there are different models of ps3 eye that I did not realize at the time.
@@konari88 oof, I didnr know that. Guess I got lucky in that the old ps3 camera I had in my closet was the right version.
Good video, surprisingly not popular. Keep up!
Thank you :)
I'm really quite surprised this is still so pricey and kinda hard to get.
For real, I guess it is a good product
@@Thatonedude90
Well... arguably, a good product doesn't have to be expensive. There's software that matches your face with a digital character on screen. Even expressions you make. VTube Studio on Steam is FREE. And there's that "Disney princess face" app or filter for phones.
Head tracking would only need to track the tilt of your head. Not even translate it to a 3D character with expressions. I'm not a programmer. But how hard could it be to just tether an in-game cam to... head tilt software?
I dunno... I'm probably missing something.
@@Xsuprio
look into AItrack and Opentrack (both needed) and a web cam. thats all you need, there are good instructions out there that explains the process. It's easy to install head track software. I use it for a flgiht sim IL-2
Thanks for the review. This was extremally helpful. I really like the DelanClip Fusion from Delan Engineering but the shipping is outrageous, half of the cost of the item. It is a shame as I am sure they would sell more.
Thanks. Glad you found it helpful :)
Really useful. Thanks for taking the time.
Thanks for the feedback. Glad you found it helpful :)
Thanks for the great review. I sit roughly 800mm from my monitor, is this too far for the UTCII? Not even sure if I would be able to get it in SA after the global pandemic calms down.
Thanks for the comment. It will work fine, I just tested it now to make sure there were not any issues :)
Global Plandemic
@@torbrand5536 ffs stfu
Right now on Amazon there is one for $180CAD from china and the rest are over $300 . I ordered the $180 one , it came a month early and it's the real deal.
nice video didn't hear some spaces because of the music. good work though.
Thank you, will make sure I tune the music more in future videos :)
Great great video! Thanks, you helped me a lot!
Cheers, glad you found it helpful :)
Excellent product survey. Thanks for the work you put into this. Do you have any Delanclip promo coupons you can share? The shipping cost to the U.S. seems a quite absurd 19.99 to 26 pound sterling.
Thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately I do not have any promo coupons, sorry :(
I bought a G7 Gyro Air Mouse and fastened it to the top of my headset. VOILA! Instant head tracking for $12.
Less cpu taxing, but what about the battery life?
Where did you get it at
@@taylorhamby4793 cheap remote control with gyro works well too, but probably best to use rechargeable batteries.
Thank you for the overview, i guess i give the delanclip a go,i play IL-2 for a month or so and need a better solution for looking around in the Cockpit, and track ir is just to much money for playing singleplayer every now and then.
Hope you found it helpful :)
Great video, thanks for sharing!!.....
Glad you found it helpful :)
Is there any difference in game software support vs. TrackIR? Do these just appear as additional HID game controller axes as far as software is concerned? I'm a little unclear about where the configuration software comes from.
Not that I have come across. There is no difference regarding the functionality of the two either. Everything that worked with my TrackIR 5, works perfectly with these setups. Games that have TrackIR support often have a setting that needs to be enabled. The actual configuration happens in the software itself, not the game (responsiveness, turning curves etc).
Both FacetrackNoir and Opentrack use the Freetrack protocol to emulate the presence of TrackIR, with a dummy TrackIR.exe file. (The option is there for games games that require it), some games work natively with Freetrack without requiring a dummy exe, but most of the games I play require it.
What's the first flightsim in this video with the canvas plane and the carrier please? Looks great!
It's Warthunder
Is there a sensitivity option? Like to control how far you turn your head so you don't have to turn as far around?
Yes, you can use the curves in FacetrackNoIR/Opentrack etc to change it to your personal preference.
is usable an Ir DIY CLIP with every webcam? i had evrey day problem with ps3eye with thei driver and often can utilize them :(
Friend of mine made his own clip and used a ps3 eye camera without issues. There should be numerous guides online about making your own clip and what you need to do with the camera. Unfortunately this is an area I know very little about, so I can't be of much help.
Where can i buy this one? There is a need for something else? EG a webcam or something else not included? How can I configure it?
The video covers the setup information and what you'll need. You'll find the links to buy them in the description :)
What about TrackNP5? I’ve seen videos of that working just as well for a way lower price. It appears to use the TIR5 software.
Have not tried it, so I can't really comment on that.
so what should i order and how much its it?
I want to use it for my American Truck Simulator.
Depends on your budget. UTC is the cheaper option, but both are excellent. You can find the links to both in the description box to check prices of the various models. I outlined the prices in the video :)
I don't really care about the cost...what I DO care about is how my TrackIR5 decided to nope tf out on me last night. Unplugged it and plugged it back in and now, no lights, not showing up in Device Manager, not detected by the software...not even the USB "badoop" sound. Nothing. Totally dead.
I have no problem paying for good stuff. I DO have a problem paying for junk that self destructs for no apparent reason after very, VERY little use. THAT is unacceptable. I'll NEVER buy or recommend TrackIR to anyone again, ever.
Same thing happened to me. Track IR is not so good I think.
I've the Track IR 5 Sensor. Does it matter which side of the headphones the LED's should be mounted on?
The trackclip pro mounts on the left, I recall these headtrackers recommending left side if you are using a TrackIR camera, but I'm not sure where I saw it now, since its been quite a while since I last checked. Mine is mounted left side, since I will hopefully be getting back my old TrackIR 5 sensor in a few months (currently using a ps3 eye camera).
@@ParticularPixels 👍
Is it possible to use Delanclip Fusion while connected to a loading cable?
Yes, both are usable when connected via usb while charging.
I have an old TrackIR 3 cam found in my boxes, but no software nor the clip. Could I use Facetracknoir software with a delusion clip? Or what do you advise? And I dind´t understand which camera do you use. thank you.
I'm using the ps3 eye camera. Not sure if TrackIR3 will work with FacetrackNoir. It is possible to mod the camera yourelf, but I'd recommend getting it from Delanclip or Trackhat already modded. As far as the clip itself goes, they all work really well.
is this compatible for my logitech g433 headset because idk where to put it as the side of my headset rotates
As long as the camera can track all the LEDs it should work fine. The rotating should not be an issue unless it rotates while you are actually playing. Otherwise you can use speakers and attach the head unit to a headband.
@@ParticularPixels I plan to get the hat version will it be different compare to the one with the velcro
@@jeager7623 A Trackhat? (www.trackhat.org/trackhat)
one more thing, in dcs the trackir allows the user to zoom in the cockpit iby moving closer to the screen is it possible to do it with this?
www.trackhat.org/product-page/trackhat-head-tracking-kit trackhat
I'm having a hard time finding the UTCII. I'm probably going to need a link.
EDIT: Oh they don't have a website... where do I get these then?
The link is the description box, but here it is again (forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=159647) , there is an email address you can reach them from. VGD Devices is based in Poland.
This can works in the dark?
Yes
@@ParticularPixels thank you so much.
@@cajamanual6713 No problem. It's infra red so lighting does not affect it :)
can you lean forward with these?
Yes you can :)
@@ParticularPixels nice, thanks for responding
Work everyone for DCS world?
EDIT: Yes they both work.
Can you please compare this to using aruco?
I've never used Aruco, and probably won't have a chance to do a comparison unfortunately.
@@ParticularPixels It's practically free and doesn't require camera modification: ruclips.net/video/ajoUzwe1bT0/видео.html I was just wondering how it compares and thought that you could give your opinion on it. All I had to do was print out a pattern, paste it on cardboard, mount it to my hat (using magnets) and voila!
We are alternative :)
Hi, do any of these work with Xbox One?
As far as I know they only work on PC.
@@ParticularPixels Okay, thanks for the reply.
Please built a own it's simple you need a little bit of a electronic knowledge
tracknp is a chinese knock off that works as good as trackir 5
I use a high end 55 inch 4k tv with low latency and 120 refresh and all that stuff so i sit around 6 feet from my monitor..is that too far ( around 1650mm to you metric fans)