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Episode 15: Is it really that different Homesteading on 1 acre vs. 500 acres
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2023
- This week Al, Ben and Jason talk about their week and what are the differences of farming on 1 acre or 500 acres. Is it all the same? See below for links!
Ben Hollar Butcher Class: bit.ly/3ZFCHiw
Jason's Build Class: sowtheland.squ...
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Homestead Shop Talk is a weekly audio podcast hosted by Jason Contreras (@sowtheland), Ben Hollar (@thehollarhomestead) and Al Lumnah (@lumnahacres). Three dudes with different homesteads talking about homestead life, content creation, growing a homestead and building a life worth living for. Thanks for listening!
I started listening to this podcast only because I watch each of your channels individually. But WOW! I'm learning so much with every podcast. Love the topics.
I harvest microgreens while listening to this podcast every week. It really helps pass the time without thinking about aches and pains and how much more I have to do.
Poo poo
I moved from Holland to Hungary. Holland is so crowded, if you have a very tiny garden you are lucky. Hungary has plenty of space and everybody has a huge garden. In the countryside people are poor and almost non of them grow a vegetable garden, for us that is sad and almost crazy as well.
It sounds like it's time to start teaching what you know to them !
Maybe you could help some of your poor neighbors with some saved seeds and help them with your garden knowledge. Then they could learn to feed themselves. 😊
My grandparents had a farm in Limburg and raised eleven children there. Poverty was their middle name. Growing your own food is one thing but there are plenty of other needs that have to be met!
Your podcast is a must watch. It is awesome to listen to three men that are full time homesteaders on three different size properties. Take care and God Bless 🤗♥️
Good conversion gentelmen. Stuck on the outskirts of a sprawling city. On less then 1/8 of an acre with three structures. Not a lot of ground to utilize. But I do well with chickens quail rabbits raised beds and potted orchards. Not able to grow all of our food but able to put a big dent in it. Enough to keep me out of the grocery stores. I've always wanted land but now at upwards 70s I wonder if I could keep it up by myself.
I'm just starting the podcast - but we homestead on 1/4 acre in an HOA. LOL!! Not our ideal, but we work with what we have. I'm talking lot's of raised beds, fruit trees, bees, eggs layers AND meat birds. Thank goodness we're situated on a hill where our neighbors can't see over our privacy fence🤣(although the yard is beautiful!!)
💯 AGREE
I’m 2/3’s acre. 25 layers, meat birds, 2 pigs, bunny, 2 dogs, bee hive, 25 fruit trees, 4 grape vines, lots of berry bushes, and 1,000 sq ft raised beds. It’s amazing how much you can do!
HOA don’t say to much out loud
You're lucky with an HOA you are able to do any of that.
Ive lived in several HOAs, no bees, no animals (other than dogs & cats) & no garden unless yiu submitted engineered drawings that had to be pre approved & Im talking backyard garden! Front yard, no way. HOAs exist to keep property values up & everyone has to be the same (color schemes, landscaping, fencing, etc).
Regarding Ben's comments..... I look forward to helping my daughter do Anything and Everything when I visit ! ! I am sure Meg's mom feels so.... Included......Needed.....Wanted ! Like to let Al know....those aches and pains become more noticeable as the years pass. I volunteered to help plant a garden for a church community. I am soon to be 75.... after a while, getting up and down became a matter of necessity....without dignity ! Thank You Jason for heading up the Homestead Shop Talk . You are doing a good job !! ❣
I remember Jason used to grow mushrooms by the creek. Interesting stuff!
Right you are. I remember that. With as many creeks and streams on Al's property, I wonder if they could grow mushrooms there.
Love this. More homesteading from the male perspective. I get burned out with all the mommy vlogs in the homesteading space so this is refreshing.
I just wanted to let you three know, I've watched all 15 podcasts and I can feel you all being there for each other. You care about how the others are being received. What a great quality. Continue with making your goals and others just as important. Such good men caring for their families and animals. Thanks, from North Georgia
A local brewery donates their spent grains to a bakery. The bread made with these grains is delicious!! Love local companies working together ❤️
Btw, Ben, I was able to educate someone about Egyptian walking onions bc of your vid. They planted them but didnt kno they can be invasive etc & that they arent allowed in certain areas bc of that. Brewers passionate about brewing like I am about Kombucha, Kefir & other ferments, & homemade yogurt.
The difference between small amount of acreage is you WANT mor farm animals, and then you get them. We went from 4 to 531. Omg is was work.
Another good podcast. Thank you.
Congratulations on reaching 10,000 followers.
Watching you fellows go through the learning / trial & error process is such a boon for those who are contemplating jumping in.
Being hands on with one's own food these days is a gift we give ourselves... and our community. 🙏
ILOVE THE 3 AMIGOS!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
November 10,11 at Ben's for pig butchering! Only 8 folks so better get signed up folks!! Hands on or just watch! Ben's Best Class yet! Don't Wait!
Ben you are so right. I liove the phase, hobby to job.
Hi everyone!! Please don't forget to hit the Like button 👍👊
Do your states have the requirement that butchered meats have to be USDA-processed? Beer brewing in the old way, old world way, was just as intricate to the farm and homestead as old world meats and preserving because people drank beer versus water. They knew water could harm but didn't know exactly why, so they made beer and ale. Everyone drank that versus water including children.
Yes Ben!!!! The OLD WAYS!!!!!
Really enjoying these!!!
24:00 Here in Missouri our conservation department will have a forester work with you to make a plan for timber harvest and maintaining a healthy tree plan for income. Fourteen acres is enough that if selectively harvested to cover at least the taxes on your place and often enough to improve a lot of it.
I absolutely love shop talk! I look forward to it every week. And shop talk isn't just for the guys. 😊
Keep planning, guys. Rooting for all of you. I'd like to see Ben teaching his boys how to weld. Can't wait to see Al teach his daughter to build a car. Jason has a lot to teach his daughter, too.
Ben did do a vid on teaching his boys and the Rhodes' boys to weld.
boy has Schillings Octoberfest grown since I moved.
Great commentary guys. Interesting to hear perspectives. One big thing to me was the commentary on management. It came down to size didn't matter as much as goals and satisfaction.
Multigenerational living (family and extended family all on the same land) has become as extinct as homesteading. I do see it heading back to folks doing it again. There are still a few around. The so-called modern-day twist on it is businesses selling what they call granny pods or ADU (accessory dwelling unit) for your back yard). As they say, history repeats itself. I agree, homesteading on any size property is pretty much the same. Just on a larger scale with larger properties. Good talk guys!
Best one yet, amazing knowledge between all of you. Even though you are apart you all share the same mind set even though you are on 3 different size`s of land. Excellent podcast i am sure you gave many hope that they too can do it on their land. Comments from some of the viewer`s were great too.
Hi guys I came back to add a comment because I just became aware of a series of books called Foxfire Series which is a compilation of stories, information, recipes, and all kinds of the things that you all are talking about wanting a source for learning! Might open a door for more ways to connect to living people who continue to do these things as their lifestyles! I hope it is inspiring to you all! May be some good reads for the winter!
I just love listening to you guys! While you are talking about the beer brewing....here is a thought. I watched a show called the complete Victorian Farm. Learned Lots! And I believe it was in that show that they talked about how the people changed from drinking water to ale...which is not beer but kinda. The reason being..during the black plague all the water became contaminated. So by fermenting the water, they were able to place it in kegs and preserve it and keep it over time, as well as not drinking water EVER! They TOTALLY switched to ale. The stronger ale was drunk after the evening meal and the weaker ale was drunk throughout the day. And they WORKED HARD!!!! Just a fun fact for ya'all for today! I also learned about the beets that they raised and how they stored them and fed them to ALL their animals with the straw left over from the grain chaff that they saved during their making of the ale. I even purchase an antique chopper just like the one on the show!!!! It wasn't EVER that they fed alfalfa till we (Americans) came and ruined what they had going for years and years! I am going to bring back some of the old ways! So my motto is, "Learn an Old Way TOAY!"
Is that show on RUclips?
@@meowth900 yes, just type victorian farm in the search box. And after that, tudor monestary farm, edwardian farm, wartime farm and the earliest : tales from the green valley.
@bonniehatcher8198 addition : the boiling of the water made it safe to drink, the alcohol kept it safe to drink while stored.
I'm looking forward to seeing Al & Gina upping the building density on their land. :) I'm just starting with Ben and Jason. I'm interested in knowing if Al & Gina bought the 500 acres because they'd kind of maximized their old place as far as their RUclips channel?
It was a better channel on 8 acres in my opinion. There was more focus on the animals and Al was more down to earth.
@@DukeOOO To each their own I guess. I still really enjoy their channel. I haven't notice a change in them other than their emphasis is on creating their infrastructure.
I'm more interested in the building part of it. They'd outgrown their other place as they wanted more and different kinds of animals. I don't know how much additional space they could've created there but to have more than one or two cows and the other animals plus maybe some sheep and whatever else, they needed more space.
Once they have created space and the buildings to support it, they'll shift their focus back to their garden and the animals. Then I'll be harassing them about the density of their buildings on their land again. :)
@@donclay3511 :)
I thought the same thing ...they bought 500 acres to grow there RUclips channel..
It seems like they bought it because ir was $500 an acre! Too good to miss that opportunity!
I envy you guys and your families. I am way beyond in age to be able to do any of that. But watching and listening to ya all gives me hope for future generations. When my husband and I were your age it never even occured to us to attempt something like homesteading. We were raised to just work for the man and make enough money to support our families and buy a house. I enjoy very much all of your channels, keep up the good work!
Real great job guys.
Great discussion, again, Gentlemen. Thanks so much. Very enlightening. ❤️🌹 NJ
Gosh, if I had 500 acres…I’d probably have some rentals to pump in the cash, and as far as homesteading goes, I’d probably have a big fancy dairy with automation. My sis and bro I law had like 350 acres with a dairy and a feed business and they pulled in like $450k per year. They milked about 300 head of cows twice a day. Got up at like 4am, got the cows up with 3 wheelers back then. After milking, the boys went to school. Most of the kids in my school lived on dairies and if they fell asleep in class, we let them sleep and caught them up later. We won state football championships every year because all our boys were raised on farms and bigger than the others lol. We never called it homesteading, we called it farming. Great topic!
After I get done watching this I'm going to go look at side by sides
Hey Ben - You mentioned that Brett (I think it was Brett) wants to build a hobbit house. I would love to see that process. I came across a youtuber that built a one room hobbit house, which is VERY cute tho I think your son has more of a hobbit mansion in mind! Anyway, its Outdoor Builder - "Embark on an epic journey: from field to dugout, the hobbit's house."
Very interesting video y'all. I always wonder how I would have handled a homestead. We never even grew a garden when I was growing up, and at my late years I have trouble getting anything to grow. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Y'all have a Blessed day.
Awesome podcast as always!
Dude! Al, you are talking about a friend and his really rich soil and him complaining about it. The opposite can also happen. When my husband passed, I was left with a 3.5 acres orchard with 1,000 trees that had been heavily sprayed for 15 years at least! Imagine what that does to the soil, ground water, insect population and just what life or lack there of in the soil! Now 10 years later, I am just now recovering and can grow crops that I feel are healthy and it has taken a long time to recover the land...I just got a water test kit and am getting ready to do another water test....I am a little scared but very hopeful! Chickens, rabbits and goats and sheep and horses working together on the farm have made the farm kinda crazy looking! hahahaha My grasses are old grasses and lots of dandelion and comfrey and plantain and all the herbs I can propagate...Does not look like it fits in the fancy neighborhood I am in...but folks are stopping in again to come and sit and visit. Can't go in the pastures anyone. I have a guard buck named Noah! hahahahaha He is something! It is good. I don't have a dog. Well guys...I spend my time talking to animals...so I guess you get me being very long winded! So nice to listen to you young guys. Learn an old ways every day! Carry on!!!
So growing up with my mom’s family, her having five sisters and mom and dad we had family on my grandma’s block that she lived on two other daughters of hers lived on the same block so when we went to go visit my grandmother, we could jump around from house to house my mother choosing not to live in that area went to the other side of town had all of us children which is three boys and myself and then mom and dad six so I was blessed that when my mom had passed away that she left me all the property .,so in the turnaround I have been fortunate enough to sell to my children the houses on my block so across the street is one son and less than a mile is another son and my older son God willing when everything goes well. I will leave him this house but I do love that the children are just nearby walking distance, one right across the street..♥️💜
I live in a subdivision that was a large farm and the company that developed it scrapped all the good soil off and sold it. We ended up with yard of clay.
Starlink was a game changer for us being 20 miles outside of town 👍
I’m with ya Al beer to me… just not my thing but the craftsmanship and passion of those that do it is commendable
Hey there three dudes,
Jon here from CRAZYDAYSHOMESTEAD. Couple things I wanted to chime in on. I have 73 acres, about 30 of it is pasture. Now the last 4-5 years I e raised a litter of hogs, a sow, out on pasture. Next year I'm not doing it. Just going to raise a couple feeders. Not enough room here to get into all of that. I've been raising beef cows and they are by far the easiest. I have a bunch of layers. Have not done meat birds yet. Again not enough room here to get into all that. I think my main comment is if you want to raise ruminants you need land. You can feed them hay but it is soo much easier with land/pasture. And I will also say the more land you have the more work it is. In one way or another things need done. And to top it all off someone abandoned 2 very small lab pippies out in the middle of nowhere. Luckily my son found them and we are taking very good care of them. I do not believe in coincidence. Everything happens in your life for a reason. God bless
That’s the way it is here in west Tennessee. People have 5+ acres and all they do is mow a Huge lawn
Or petting zoo 😅
i used to cook liver and onions years ago. then i found out i have gout, so organ meats arent allowed in my diet now. i had a friend make me deer liver one time when i was eating it. he added a can of beer to his liver and onions as it simmered on the stove. the beer gave it an amazing flavor, while i was still eating it. i havent had any for 20yrs
home,land is home no matter how big land is..i think everyone should have their own land,for home sweet home.blessings guys.stay strong out there.jesus love you.s.....hugs.....
Starlink changed my life. It rocks.
My hubby’s “hobby” is raising cattle. I say hobby loosely because he has over 300 (Moms, calves, bulls). He will sell the 154 feeder calves next month and Mom’s will be calving again this winter. I raise 7 steers for beef for friends & family each year. I basically break even (very small profit) so I may only raise a couple next year. It’s a lot of work.
You guys are great ! Love this !!!!!
I enjoy yours perspective of homesteading
Great Job Guys! Thank you!!! Blessing to YOU!!
We have a nonprofit that is currently using an acre of land that everything grown is given away to food banks. We have another 6 that we will use to graze some animals. Teaching farm as well. We have no off farm income as we both left our corporate jobs. Developing orchards to help the native families. Start small and perfect that then you can grow from there.
Great video boys keep them coming 🙌
Thanks so much guys for sharing with a audience your homestead experience, perspectives, and visions of the future. I'm wishing all of you the best in this endeavor and hoping that the podcast becomes a huge success! I may choose to watch some of the older segments but even if I don't. This was a interesting topic for the podcast 👍🏾
You guys I have been watch each of you for the time you all started
Good day Ben, Jason and Al. Something I have noticed in the past half decade here in central Maine is much of older farmland is being put into SOLAR FARMS !! Younger people no longer want to farm, but they have inharited them, so they lease the land for solar farms. These people still keep the land and get an income ! Do either of you three see this in your area ? Very good podcast guys !!
Its awesome to listen to you 3 talk about life n how to do things
Al, You can have the guys up this winter when you have a foot of snow and you can let them plow snow....😂
I just love watching you guys
Love the podcasts, but they NEED to be an hour long ❤❤❤❤
Great chat, as always, guys! It's so good to hear all your different perspectives and ideas every week. For me, starting with a small property has turned out to be really good in learning how to lay things out well, taking captive every space, even if some of the spaces temporarily escaped captivity... 😁 I'm so keen for a bigger property but so glad we started here.
I am really glad to hear you guys talk about having a market somewhere (online?) to recoup your costs. If Ben could cultivate his blueberries opening to the public as U-pick and then maybe offer fruit trees for sale. Even with a small local market it might be worth it. One of your sons could be your business manager!
Ok Al it tastes like charcoal with a hint of ash! I’ll stick with my favorite coffee and enjoy the morning.
Last year, we had a 40 lb. turkey, we sold for $100!!
You guys are brilliant! 👏👏👏
I wild ferment my wine but, pitch yeast, for my all grain beer - chickens love the spent mash - distill some of both for medicinal purposes
I think for RUclips homesteading having at least 5 acres is helpful. It’s enough space to working different types of projects.
At first, i thought Ben had a shirt on that said “Ben, Al & Jason” 😅
You guys are solid gold thanks for sharing.
Good morning you hard working guys 😀
Great topic, guys! Have a good week!
Great videos as usual! Love the tips and advice on making your homestead more efficient, and learning to plan ahead for what you want out of it. Would any of you guys know where I could get plans for a simple and small smokehouse?
Listened to y'all on Spotify today as I drove. Love your program, keep putting them out and I'll keep listening.
I didn't know about this podcast until just now SO COOL I've watched all you for years on a regular bases & now your all 3 in one place = thank you it's way cool & this topic helps me make better choices cuz the exstra information from first hand exspereance 👍
Always a great chinwag.Cheers.
Hey Gang 👋 Allways nice to see the Three Musketeers, you're allways keeping busy with your homesteads,
Ben, MIL is visiting, would she consider moving closer to you guys? I'm sure the grandchildren would be a BLESSING and Meg and her can start their own cooking podcasts, just a thought 😊
Al, you are building a MEGA HOMESTEADERS DREAM
Jason, you're working the hardest trying to recover horse corals into gardening beds,
Guys, keep up the great work love U guys, you're an inspiration and motivater for other God's Good Blessings to you and your beautiful family's, keep up the good work.
Jason, you're absolutely right about growing more food, The Farmer's Market is very profitable 👍
90% of the 500 acres is swamp land and rocks. That's why Al paid less for the 500 acres than Jason paid for his 14 acres. Al has the burden/cost of trying to maintain a 1/2 mile+ driveway in the flood plain just to access his buildings, not to mention maintaining the rest of the property. Al needs to hope that "youTube doesn't go away"...which was the theme of last weeks podcast.
I don't agree with that , there is VERY little swamp on that 500 acres, yes there are rocks and boulders on that land but there is a lot of timber to harvest ! cattle, goats sheep and pigs can all live around rocks !!!@@DukeOOO
@@davidgetchell3633 You tell me how many acres you believe are in wetlands/floodplain. I actually know.
Great conversation, I tend to agree with you more land is really about figuring out how to best use it over time! Still working on that myself as a a couple getting ready to retire! We were too busy working when we first bought our property and now we have to decide how much we can physically do with it for the future! Blessings on you all and your families! 🤗
As always, great info - very helpful.
Thanks, guys!
("Changing the world, one pig at a time!" - awesome!)
One pig and 25 chickens, 2 pigs and 75 chickens !!!!
That's great that you have done this 15 times! That is cute that Meg has put her mom to work. Cool Jason, Starlink internet. I bet it takes time to draw up the chicken tractor plans. The white turkeys do grow pretty fast and they have nice big breast meat. You'll like how easy it is to butcher them because they are so big. Doing the rebar for the slab has to take a lot of time Al. I like how Jason is talking with more property means more stuff to help you take care of it. More expense. That is another consideration too when you get a larger piece of land does it have trees you can harvest to help you with the costs? Al brings up a good point. You can "grow" into the land as you explore it. It's nice that you can have kids build houses on the land too. As you have all scaled I notice that some type of farm vehicle to get around is something you have all done. Not having to be near neighbors is great. Having a quiet place to be is wonderful in this crazy hustle bustle time of life. It makes sense that it takes a lot of time to work on the land. I just think that going to producing for other people it's more of a risk when things don't go well. My friend wanted to provide eggs for a restaurant and each time she tried something would happen that made that impossible. You can't count on it before you do it. She would get the contract first and then try to meet it and it didn't work. Predators broke in and another time her brooder lost power from a storm and she lost her entire flock. There is more risk in farming. She has milk and meat cows now. I like the Fall meat birds too! It sounds like the expansion to a larger piece of land doesn't make a lot of difference. Cool! Thanks for this guys!
Great podcast as usual, can’t wait to see what’s discussed next. Love what you guys are doing.
Al should see if he can get that brewery to sell beer for his RUclips audience. I think they’d buy it lol
I want land to build houses for my siblings and me, my brother’s kids as well as my daughter. I want to be able to grow enough food for all of us and the odd neighbor that may need some as well.
hey guys 10,000 woohoo
Jason, you can feed your animals the food you grow. That will keep your feed cost down.
On Jason's slow growing turkeys, I'm wondering if Ben has plans for his pigs carcasses... or if Jason could score them for his turkeys to pick clean... . If Ben doesn't need em for his own poultry. Or/similarly, if deer hunting season starts down there now/soon, too ( I'm in WI and bow season has already started). If Jason could let neighbors know that he'll come get their deer carcasses and trimmings. Wondering if the extra fat, & the animal protein etc., esp. as the weather turns colder, would help them fill out faster, (or at least not slow down more !).
Fantastic guys great knowledge!!!
I think most homesteaders who have planned before their land purchase are doing a bit at a time no matter how many acres they have.
Great therapy!
I’m sure it’s awkward to sit in front of a phone and talk. I think it’s just a difference in personalities coming through. Plus he’s backed up against a wall that makes him look rigid.
I love this topic. I grew up on a dairy farm of around maybe 400 acres at the time and I'm not sure if that counted rented acres/fields and pastures owned by neighbors ( I think it did). Then, we briefly were completely off the farm for 1.5 years, on a 3 acre place with a garden and milk cow. Since being married, we've lived on as small as 1.2 acres. Part of that flooded badly every time it rained much, the 2 years we lived there, incl. half the garden area and much of the best ( best otherwise) places to have the chickens. Not the reason we sold it tho. . My opinion is that it's a very good experience to have a small acreage, to learn how to really utilize it well, manage well, and maximize what you can do close to your house ( always gunna be zone 1, & get your most/best attn. on average. Be easiest to keep managed, esp. when injured or sick or low staffed ! ). But it's really nice to have had previous experience with larger acreage living too, even if just through working for someone like a farmer. And just generally be somewhat in shape and used to/not overwhelmed by longer walks incl. while carrying something. I grew up without 4 wheelers or anything on our farm yet and except for times Dad used the loader tractor to take hay and water out to a sick cow who couldn't get up out in the pasture, or being in a baby calf, we did ( and I, a gangly girl, did ) a LOT, a LOT of that just by hand/on foot. Looking for cows, moving heifers from one pasture to another down the road a ways, etc. . My husband and I have usually had a lawn tractor, other tractor or pick-up to use but I like having those past experiences to compare to when I need to make my spoiled self just have to walk it for whatever reason.
Anyway, I definitely liked seeing the different sized properties in Justin Rhodes great American farm tour, one of my favorite things about it.
PS: My parents farm is super hilly, too !
Jason, could you raise cattle grass fed cattle to sell for people who want an half of a cow 🐄! I used to buy one from my uncle!😊
For sure Jason can do that legally.
Always such a great job
Have u guys considered growing the animals out to improve your pastures then selling the live animals at kill point to recoup your funds. Keep that cycle going and it's a win win for all. U get great soil and others get organic food.
I would buy ……!
Great perception
Enjoyed this out look, I m on a acre and grow some food, have hens an guard geese
Mankind always craves MORE! Ben, what are your dreams for the land? I’m assuming you all have land taxes to pay, you have the need for other items than just sustenance! How do you purchase those!