Joel Salatin on How to Make $100k on Land in Your First Year
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- Legendary regenerative rancher Joel Salatin gets into it with Jaymie from Living the Off-Grid Dream, everything from how to launch a successful startup business on land as quickly as possible, to healing the soil and hard lessons learned along the way.
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I hope everybody is catching the point here. The hard part is selling these chickens. Don't go invest $25,000 when you don't have a single customer yet. Start with one modular chicken tractor and if you sell out in 10 minutes, then scale up. Don't start with a thousand birds and you sell 500. You are stuck feeding 500 birds until you sell them.
Every soul needs food and if the price is right they will always sell no question and no doubt
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Will prevent all food deliveries to town then sell my stock at 500% markup
Agreed
So true and can be very emotionally taxing!!
i have learned that hiring a local excavation guy is cheaper than buying equipment. Everything we need will be done for less than the cost of the equipment, time, and learning curve. It will also be done right, plus I love our guy he just goes with my ideas and says "Well, lets make it work"
I’m 43 and I’m getting into this. I was raised on a very small farm with my grandparents. They did things the old fashioned way and did very well with what they did. I wish I had stayed with the program in my earlier years, but I ran from it. I’ve come to accept that this is what I should have been doing all along. On a positive note, we still have the land, and all the infrastructure is in place to include the tools. I have to get a few things repaired and also a few small upgrades need to be done. I have e already begun the process and I am looking forward to the outcome. Videos like these are encouraging. Thanks for the info.
Epic you have the place to start working.
As a kid, I despised farming, the occupation of both sets of grandparents. Today, I think it’s extremely noble and praiseworthy.
You might do well to check out: 1) Gabe Brown, his book Dirt to Soil, and interviews or talks where he shares what he discovered about Regenerative Ag; 2) Greg Judy; 3) Ray Archuleta; 4) Allen Williams; 5) Will Harris; 6) Jim Gerrish; and many others who use minimal inputs and maximize nutrient dense food per acre and net income VS conventional ag practices. See what is best for your context! Have a blessed day!
Never give up, don’t back down. Full throttle. That song is for you!!! You have the foundation, run with it!
Look into Knf. Or Natural Farming techniques
Awesome 👏 Now you can farm with Grace and a deeper appreciation
Strongest point coming out of this interview: we need people around the city that do things that's good for regenerative agriculture like creating compost or some nice techniques.
Here in the Uk, reported 7000 farm closures in last three years, farming subsidies removed, and more rewilding. Farm sale lots broken up for equestrian use, while we also import half our food.
Sadly, it seems too many people still don't realize that human interaction can be a crucial element of "rewilding," and that those farms can be transitioned to regenerative agriculture models like silvo pasture, etc.
Mass human harvests throughout history just look at holodomor. African is considered 54 countries to uk or us 1 so if agenda 2030, 2050, 2065 seems a little racist it's because they are biased for their benefit. Look at Africa 2050. Look how they are not forced to poke or do the LGBT
Nokia 6g running on lucent technologies and inferno operating systems. Ceo "will be n your body by 2030
Meanwhile China has bought up over 350,000 acres of farmland in the USA
I believe their plan is to create a famine. Then they will control you through the food most likely Bill Gates frankenfood.
Hey Joel, I'm so sorry about your friends passing. Thank you for taking the time to share so much valuable information with viewers.
I pay a little bit extra to local farmers to buy non-GMO fed, pasture raised beef, pork and eggs. I am not an animal rights activist by any means but I eat very little chicken because I refuse to consume obese or otherwise unhealthy factory farmed poultry. Likewise, I won’t buy it on the rare occasion I go out to eat for the same reason and because they often cook it in seed oils. Thank you for this video. It’s hard to get too much Joel on my video diet. 😉 I’m a few weeks away from moving to Tennessee and raising my own food.
You are soooo lucky. I am in Hawaii Oahu and no chance that I'm aware of for doing that.
@@user-lo2rg8qh9l I am very lucky. It’s my superpower.😏
just fyi
chick-fil-a uses peanut oil to deep fry
@@hoperules8874 I got a hold of the ingredients list for Chick-fil-A foods. I stopped eating it when I saw dozens of ingredients and just about everything.
Update: I just bought a Farm in Kentucky! The only thing that would’ve made it better is if it was 300 km further south 😉
New subscriber here! Great interview. "The next 401k plan is living proximate, in relationship with people who know how to grow things, fix things and build things."
I about died when the closed captions made Joel say 'we inject them with Mrna" but instead said "we inject them with marijuana" .... its just funny have a light heart guys.
I am sorry for your loss! Thank you for taking the time to educate us while processing the loss of a friend. God bless you and your wife!
Ya'll I went to the food independence summit in Ohio and he was one of the speakers. It is such an amazing event! It' super fun and you learn so much! Also in a beautiful part of the country!
Where and when is the event fam?
@@noconsentgiven This year, it will be held at the same place. Walnut Creek Ohio. It's a two day event, the 19th and 20th of June. I believe tickets for it are still being sold.
@@changed7226 Ok thank you👍❤️!
Wow. Epic conversation.
I have a 0.6 acre pond that was very low at the beginning of January. Then we had over 13" of rainfall in January, plus more over February and March and my pond is now overflowing. I estimate that the siphon system pulled out 7 million liters of water in that period of time into my field, and every time I think of it I want to cry at the fact that if I had a pond in the field, I could have saved so much water. Unfortunately, I cannot afford to build another pond right now.
Dang. Maybe soon you can get that extra pond dug.
Raise your organic matter in the soil and it will retain a large amount of the rain water for you. But I hear your concerns.
@@AaronDashing I am working on it, but I must say that to my surprise, I have very little pooling of water. Most of it soaked in very quickly.
I will say there would probably be be a lot more farmers if the government and the rich people have made it too costly to buy land and farm. Look what they are doing to Amos Miller.
The just passes an rfid cattle tags bill too
Data science people need to get on board to legalize raw milk and producer to consumer direct marketing
Until we all just stop going along with stupidity the govt will keep pushing the bar. Build local networks, support local networks and they will lose all power. The Amos Miller case is a bellwether to maybe shift the trajectory to a positive direction. If you havent followed that I would recommend getting up to speed. If the govt can control your food completely there is nothing left
The government and rich people don’t make land more expensive. They make you poorer through taxation, regulation, and purposefully inflating currency while impeding wage growth.
@@nickschaps4022Actually they do make it more expensive, but are technically making you poorer and stealing your buying power via the printing of money and subsequent inflation as you referenced. So they aren’t entirely incorrect in their sentiments, as on the surface people just see prices increasing.
Inflation, especially since the U.S. went off the gold standard under Nixon, has historically increased land and house prices significantly, and is happening at a much faster rate today in the U.S. because they have nearly doubled the money supply in a matter of 6 years, thus also doubling the cost of land.
The chicken numbers around 32 minutes leave off feed and other costs. That is a big deal. "I'm a big believer in you should plant some fruit trees yesterday." Totally agree!
Ive had bad experiences so far with leasing, hand shake deals so far that ended abruptly without explanation. Finding an actual contract lease hasnt been something ive found yet with my 3 years of experience and high competition for leases in the area between waco and Austin tx
I’d give anything to start a farm but I only have 30k and it’s a pipe dream. I grow what I can in my yard tho:)
Maybe you might look at free leasing as Joel mentioned, where you raise chickens on land a farmer doesn’t use & the chicken manure improves his soil for him to use later. Sounds like a good idea that may suit both parties.
That's enough for a down-payment near the Panhandle if you have steady income!
My husband does home loans
Thanks for sharing this awesome conversation with a hero to many. The discussion truly put things into perspective and the need to take action in a thoughtful and scalable manner.
Wonderful interview and great points offered!
So glad to see Joel on your channel, Thank you.
Where you finding acres for 7000 ? an acre is 20k nowadays, I have 100 acres and I am holding on tight.
In the southeast US you can find land all day for 7k/acre or less depending on how large the tract is. I bought 46 18 months ago for 3100 an acre and I’m 15 min from Walmart and all town amenities. It was clear cut 2 years prior and had started growing up I had about 10 acres cleared and cleaned up.
@@joemay1200maybe if you are buying 100plus acre tracts but anything under 50acres is going for 20k per
It depends where you live obviously, in my area it’s about 2k an acre. 20k seems way overpriced if it’s outside of town and not on a beach or something though no matter where you live
We bought our land over 5 years ago, just before land prices in the area went NUTS. The reason we bought here was cost of living and my husband was forced to retire. Love where we are! Have been trying to make the property profitable. Right now I am raising chickens (layers), and meat goats. The land is (was) full of brush and in a holler, ideal for goats. I have great ideas, some I have implemented, some I am waiting on my husband to be willing to finance. I know my ideas are good because I have had people here who have more experience than I in farming and they were visibly impressed (took pictures even), and agreed my further plans were good ones. Unfortunately, my husband hates spending money.
Aloha everyone from Lanai Hawaii, great interview so good to hear what you’re saying. It gives me hope that it’s possible!
Oh man all those old cane fields that are turning into dust bowls would make great food forests Maui love.
How many people would buy a chicken for $20??
They're going by pounds, a full grown chicken is 3-4 lbs when processed, and it sells for $6 a lb. It's an avarage but you have to think wholesale or be ready to spend a lot of time on marketing your products.
This was great what a wealth of information
Our first 3 calves were free from local farmers. They dont want to bottle feed them. So, if something goes wrong.. be on their list of people to call. This means always have a calf bucket ready to go. Clean bottles, nipples, calf milk, colustrum, bactrum, electrolytes and a feeder tube if you cant get them to suck. Enjoy folks! Ps... the first one lived in the house for a week. Lol
I’m commenting before watching whole video so I apologize if it’s answered later.
If we don’t want to do the processing of broilers ourselves, what’s the avg cost to have that done?
I love Joel Salatin, I have so many of his books we are currently reading and crash course-ing our way into farm (he writes even better than he speaks) my husband and I find him just delightful, down to earth, and humorous throughout. 😊
In Mifflinburg, PA there is a place called Reiff's Poultry Processing. Back i early 2011, i had 99 dual purpose birds done there. It took Eli and his 2 helpers 90 minutes from start to finish. No idea of current prices.
Me too on Joel Salatin. My husband laughs because when I tell a story about regenerative agricultural he always knows who I'm quoting without me saying😂😂
I’d like to know too. Can’t seem to find any where near me that’ll do it
Thank you❤
So what is the $100k based off of? The broilers? Or just working backward from anything basing it off of a 30% profit?
Yeah I didn't quite follow that myself either... (?)
“I’m just doing my job” with the Nazi illustration of pushing the button at Auschwitz. That will forever stick in my brain!
Good point Joel 👍🏻
Math might be a bit off. Currently $580 for one chicken tractor. He doesn’t include cost to buy the chickens. $1,064. Cost to feed very cheap feed about $1,420. Add in waterers feeding equipment etc.
Off the bat I doubt it. I’m listening. Prove me wrong.
Anyone in here in Michigan?
Me:)
Me!
PREACH JOEL!
Can a single farmer butcher or process 75 birds 5 days a week? That’s what it would take to have 9000 in six months and not work 7 days a week. I have done 60 plus in a day with friends and family but we couldn’t package them until the following day because we ran out of light. Maybe I’m just too slow but I don’t see how I could do 75.
Dude, you HAVE to include the entire $25,000 upfront cost in the first year. This will break most people from starting the business the way you stated.
Anyone from Arkansas here?
Texas!
22:59 my biggest 3 things for RV is water..fuel & grain.. …electricity is a thing but so far I’m able to 2x my input electricity vs output..my goal for that is 5-10x my electric input vs output….water is my main focus including acquiring as well as using it as power & thermal sources from water…I like mullet so far as my best yet grain and hopefully both sugar cane and beet as food.
My advice what a new self sustainable living person would need is the things that are most basic needs…food..water..transport..lodging…power…fuel..etc. ..know what’s the toughest overall and most necessary and focus improvement of that necessity.
Plus100, thank you!
Amen! ...to the Ford Bronco!!
Do you have a contact for this 70 year old starting a farm in Arizona? I lost my homestead after losing my husband to cancer, and have been doing farmhand/ranchhand work. I need a new place to stay in Arizona to start over until I can start my own again.
Check out the Savory Institute or the Land Stewardship project.
Best wishes to you.
Oh to have 31 inches of rain a year 😮
I have 9-12 inches per year and that’s snow pack here in high desert mountains of Idaho… really hard to create a regenerative environment- not impossible but…
Where do you sell the meat
In the U.S what kind of business or license do you need to sell chicken or pork privately. Asking from Florida
Also, if you process chickens yourself, can you sell them lawfully?
I lost the battle with the civil service, no matter what creative work arounds I tried, but I had to deal with Germans. They don't care whether you think they are human or not, they are the boss and for them you are just the not highly educated Dutch farmer who has to listen. That is my experience, I don't sell anything edible anymore.
Government is the plague of the earth.
Australia may be a completely different system, not sure. But how do you make a profit off broilers and rabbit from remote USA? I feel that I need to know this because I’m in regional, almost remote Australia and it is such huge distances to travel with stock of that nature that it makes it unviable to buy the trucks and cages and travel to steggles etc. to make any profit off broilers, and rabbits… I don’t even know of a market for them. I’d love to expand that way. I sell layer pullets in regenerative agriculture system with chicken tractors and also do Aussie whites, vegetables and Angus grass fed. But chickens are my fav. The amount of phosphorus they feed into the poor Australian soils really brings this landscape to life. So if there’s a way to add broilers to my operation, I’d love to. Any advice on how to do it, or more info on how you do it?
Where do you find these chicken modules?
Brutal. He says he's going to the funeral home and you say, "have a nice rest of your day." Ice cold.
Yeah I caught that. Said... Good. I'm sure his nerves were tight and he probably kicked himself in the butt on playback.
Just out of curiosity how did you spend 30k on a garden😮? We grow absolutely loads of produce for a minimal amount of money output. The items we did buy will be used for a lifetime. Just curious 😊
I felt the same about that comment .😂 maybe a tiller/tractor style? Heard him say hire someone. It's funny. We work full time jobs and garden plus livestock. May to September cooking and cleaning.. is a nope.. gotta work outside til dark. Hello Ozark from the bottom of AR.
Market gardens may need some infrastructure
If you think Tyson buys their own barns and is upside down on ratios you need to talk to the farmers who raise their chickens. Nothing is straight forward or how it seems. It would be a great follow video
He was referring to the cost to the farmer to raise chickens for Tyson. Tyson is a very corrupt company that hides a lot in the fine print that your honest farmer doesn't know I w about before signing.
i want to buy land cause when i spend 100k to put infrastructure and another 100 or 2 for building a house or 2 i don't want to not own that land
Joel teaches you to make the infrastructure portable
@@johnfitbyfaithnet that's not exactly true, the perimeter fence, the ponds and lakes I want to build(that is what I want to do not necessarily what the cows would need) but even underground pipes for water is not portable if you went that route instead of ponds and lakes
How do we work around the new laws? Apparently, we have to register and pay a fee for each bird now. Tax, tax tax.
Screwed up the audio for headphones.
Jamie you are getting a great deal of echo in the room you are in. I would recommend hanging some kind of cloth around the walls to dampen the echo. The echo makes listening this this vid really annoying.
Try listening to it with one ear bud in. Im listening to it at work and no issues. Or i dont notice.
How do I get in touch with the gentleman explaining everything? I didn’t see his name or how to contact him. What is the name of his farm? I’m in Bremen, GA with only 100 acres and just starting. I’m interested in pasture raised chickens and want to know about the shelters you do. Also have 8 cows and a bull that we just started with on 56 acres we are leasing about eleven minutes from my farm. Thanks in advance for connecting us. 1:25:49 OOPS; I mistakenly thought Joel Saladin was the host of the video but as it turns out Joel is the farmer I want to connect with so no need to reply. Thanks!
His name is Joel Salatin and his farm is called “polyface farm”
How can I meet the 70 year old's I'm 72 and would like to be part of regenerative farming & I live in California .
You've got to be in an area that supports a population that is willing to spend $20 per chicken...thats outrageously expensive, especially when Costco charges $5 for a rotisserie..you can make the "farm raised" argument all you want and people might try yours once or twice but the reality is the middle/lower class is getting squeezed, inflation is insane and the avg family cant afford to pay $20/chicken unless they are man bun soy latte drinking software engineers who want to know the chickens name. Avg Joe blue collar just cant afford it IMO. They will pay a slight premium for a better product, if cheapest is $5/chicken they would pay $8-10 but not 4x.
I know this kind of farming doesn't work in my area.
Most urban areas will gladly spend $20+ per bird. In my area you're already paying close to that for conventional, so pasture raised isn't much more. I live in Michigan, it's not like you have to be in California or NY to get those sales. Joel lives in Virginia in a pretty remote location. It all depends on how creative you can be with your market.
@@petekooshian5595wow. Even when I lived in California, I couldn't afford chicken over ten bucks. I was not the target customer. Anxiety ridden GMO grocery chicken was affordable.
Tbh, I cut out a lot of meat to make it work.
@@the-asylum Yup it's one of those things that has to appeal to middle class families first so it becomes popular enough to be more accessible and cheap.
I've never made over 40k in a year and I can still make room in my budget for a $20 bird here and there, but that's only because I'm using every part of it and not just the normal meats you know? It's a lot cheaper when you get the whole animal.
Another great way to sell more is to make broths and stocks and then you can get more per bird without raising the price 👌
Preach!
Look up usda loans to purchase farm land
He talks about me at 54:20
Cheaper and easier is the exact problem
were is he getting 20$ per chicken?
How do you get rid of Trudeau?
Ha ha ha land , that’s a good one
Bob's Stocking Herbivorous Solar Conversion Lignified Carbon Sequestration Fertilization
150 people at 20$ per chicken good luck.
You cant birth too big a dream.
More like I lost $100K in the first year 😹 I’m still keeping the dream alive!!
You won’t make 100k- your net will be 100k, and your expenses will be 80k lol.
Who is buying these chickens at $20 each???
I was thumbing through the comments to see if anyone else had this question. That fundamentally throws the math off since you charge more like $7-$10 for a whole chicken.
@@ferrantenicholasjust like people will pay more for pasture raised eggs, they will pay more for pasture raised chicken.
Equine therapy for blind or autistic people, or PTSD sufferers.
In a world of hurt because you’re dependent
you say youre going to pump water from the ground to the surface, and this will increase your carrying capacity? have you heard of evaporation? Irrigation is generally unsustainable. you might can pump ground water for 10 or 10,000 years, but the water cycle sets limits. You should only grow what the natural water cycle can support. and given theres productive plants & animals for water levels down to desert, really no excuses
I think he is saying that they have increased the percentage of organic matter in the soil with their grazing methods. When you do this it also increases how much water the soil will hold. So when the rain falls you are able to store in the soil as well as in ponds.
Don’t buy into this, the odds of you making $100k on your first year farming is very low. Most people will drown in debt they get themselves into trying to build their dream before they ever see a cent of profit. This is the realistic outlook.
It could be done but it has to be done strategically and with closed loop systems so you can be self sustained as soon as possible.
If the government kills your chickens do they pay u 4 the bird.
Farming ain’t a hobby.
Wow what a brilliant take
He wrote the book what a guy doesn't even mention it
Easy to raise 1000 chickens but very hard to sell. Joel is making his money by selling books and talking. His farm is just for content to talk about
Mono sound. Ruined it
yea let me go buy 1k acres here quick with the change in my pocket....lol what even is this
Step one is having tens of millions worth of land...
I own 160 acres in central Manitoba, it is flat has no water source, power or buildings, I am a loss as to where to start especially as to ponds and moving water with gravity. The one thing it does have is 120 acres of forest.
I live in Toronto And have the passion for agriculture
But i don’t have the land
Look at Steve Kenyon in Canada, perhaps ideas for you...
You'll have to create your own "gravity" by using water towers and the like. Many places will collect water by day and pump it up into a tower at night when electrical rates are lowest. Using tarps/roofs to direct water into the tower can work also. Once you have water at height, you can then use it to power mini-hydro electric, drip irrigation, etc.....Flat, cleared land is an "asset", if you want to farm/pasture, so that much is already working in your favor. You can also contact a timber buyer in your area. They'll come out and look at your forest and tell you what you could get for various specimens. You'd be surprised how much you can make just by selling a few mature trees and there are A LOT of trees on 120 acres. Not to mention having infinite lumber on site to build with. Where there's a Will, there's a way!
Have you watched video series on permaculture? I like Geoff Lawton's videos and a channel called The Weedy Garden. Your forest is a massive source of organic matter with which you can create incredible compost. You can design the layout, earth works, soil, and what you plant and where and when to trap and slow down the water you do get from rain and snow fall and slow evaporation in warm weather.
@@Building_Bluebird "perma pastures farm" and "the permaculture consultant" are two other sites who show techniques on youtube
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