I would like to see Khadas moving towards the risc v architecture to keep up with the company's innovations and also striving to lower the cost of products. I am interested in reselling Khadas in Brazil.
Fantastic idea , however in future versions I would have AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS or better future AMD APU . With this powerful APU I could also play games at 1080p without Mind Graphics also when I'm in travel with the Khadas Mind in Laptop mode . And I could consider Mind Graphic only to play games at 2k or 4k.
Thank you for your valuable suggestions. We greatly appreciate your input, and we will certainly take into consideration the popular AMD solution for Khadas Mind in our future development plans.
About the Mind X Play, I am curious if you will have different sizes or just one. Also, it would be nice to be able to use the GPU with it but it looks like it would be physically impossible at the moment. I don't see the mindxplay option when donating.
had this idea every since asus padfone was introduced but sadly that (padfone) ended faster than i predict. really love how this concept is being revived and instead of a phone, its a computer now.
Hey khadas! Look I am just a random guy for you guys… but I am really impressed about this! I am in the pc world for a long long time. I have one thing, I really want to buy this but. If you guys can make an huge upgrade model for about 1300-1500 dollar/euro that has a higher grade cpu that can run games and a lot more… like an i9 or something in that range. I would buy the product 100% if you guys also keep bringing like more and more of the extra “accessoires/ products” I really think you guys can make this super big, so if you bring more higher end stuff to, then its gonne be a big win for everyone!
@@Khadas are you guys gonne make a higher end one? If so I wil buy it for sure! Also a graphics card with 12+ gig ddr6 also very nice like an rtx 4080/7800xt
Huge opportunity if done right. Key is having docks with data storage options and good connectivity for work, and another Gaming / Workstation capable dock at home with at least RTX 3070Ti and 3090Ti level graphics to cover needs. So far all vendors have under-baked the graphics with RTX 3060 / 4060 or RX 7600 XT which are not good enough...
As soon as you release the xPlay I will happily switch to the Khadas ecosystem. I mean the mind V2, graphics dock, and the xPlay - the idea of having the same machine be used in a multitude of setups is what seems amazing to me. Before someone says just use a laptop... I just find this concept way more intriguing and efficient. Have to say, AMD version would be more appealing considering Intel's questionable development choices the past few years.
The problem is that this project is based on Intel Platform. Instead I would prefer AMD, because also with the new 7xxx processor I can use Windows 10 and use older programs I need that are not well supported on win 11. With the architecture P/E core we are forced to windows 11, that is also slower than Windows 10 as Microsoft keeps adding bloatware every upgrade. If there were an option like AMD 7735 hs or 7035U series + graphic module I would be truly interested.
What did I just watch? Why have I not heard about this before? My goodness. If the external GPU there is strong enough, this would be an insane device.
Hi Martin. The Mind Graphics is almost ready and will be shipped to our backers in June. It's now open for pre-order: www.khadas.com/product-page/mind-graphics.
It would be nice to ditch proprietary dock connection in favor of the oculink/usb4 solution, because it is more pro-consumer allowing to use diy or third party equipment
As a 3d artist I need a portable solution, but there is simply no manufacturer adding enough memory to their systems 32gb ram isn't enough I'd love to buy something like i7 1370p with 64 ram and a high end gpu with 16 gb vram, like radeon rx 6800xt but then the system would cost like 3k $ :P Nowadays there is no viable solution except building my own sff rig. I don't get it personally how can't a company with production volumes accomplish something competitive to a home-built pc. It is either absurdly expensive, or has lackluster performance. Until this problem is solved I don't see how portable PCs can become a popular thing.
Thank you for your comment! I'm thrilled to let you know that Khadas Mind is now available on Kickstarter. You are welcome to place your order, and rest assured, we offer worldwide shipping to your country. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact crowdfunding@khadas.com
It's cool that you guys managed to accomplish such a feat, but i have a question. How is this "always work on the same computer" any different than carrying a Live USB Stick with a Linux system on it? Sure one could argue it's more cost-effective to have a single computer and connect it to different peripherals and such, but then again, a USB Stick is more portable, and i'm guessing those various docking stations aren't gonna be cheap, either
Some advantages I can think of. First is speed. The system has a nvme ssd, which is faster than usb. The second is ease of use. You need more technical knowledge for a live usb, and you have to configure all the hosts to boot from usb.
@@PeterAuto1 yeah but then again, is this worth the additional cost? Learning to press F12 at startup to select a boot device doesn't seem like much of an issue for most. However as for speed, yeah i can see situations where USB 3.1 or even Thunderbolt speeds just won't cut it: things like gaming or using some really heavy program, but then again, if you're gaming you're probably better off with a steam deck anyways, and if you're doing some heavy duty work with windows-only software like the adobe suite... Then yeah, this could actually be the best thing to use afaik But i feel like even in this case, this is just more unnecessary complexity But this is just what i think, i might be wrong, you let me know
Looks nice, but did something change with nvidia not allowing to sell full desktop gpus for egpu enclosures? If not then those are amd or nvidia mobile gpus?
i dont think nvidia can block users from buying full sized gpus for egpu enclosures? last i checked egpu connections are bandwidth limited by the connection. so even if you throw a 4090 inside, you wont get the full performance cause it cant pass through.
Would great to consider the new Ryzen AI 300 Series or Intel 185H and RTX 4070 ti with dual encoders and 64 GB ram, name it ultra or max since this replace mac ultra for windows lovers who need high performance for video editing.
we agree that "standard" 2280 might comes more flexible for most users, also larger capacity available. During the RnD stage, our team also discuss on the decision on this, but the reason we finally just go with 2x 2230 SSD are that: 1) The Mind not able to put into a 2280 SSD, as the 2280 SSD will overlap with the area on the back of the CPU, where will be a certain amount of heat generated from the CPU. 2) Also, we trust 2230 will become more and more popular in the near future :) Thanks you for point out what your concerns, and your voice make sense for us.
Apple will do this in 5 Years. A mac mini that can be converted to mac studio or mac pro Connect external Audio Mixing Devices Connect Storage Connect ARM based Propriotry GPU Connect A Battery Connect whatever. And that will sell like hot cakes.
Keep the prices competitive and you'll be king of mini Pc market
This is what the NUC should have been. if the power draw is reasonable, then I'm sold
Pretty cool concept/product. Design was well thought out.
I would like to see Khadas moving towards the risc v architecture to keep up with the company's innovations and also striving to lower the cost of products. I am interested in reselling Khadas in Brazil.
Fantastic idea , however in future versions I would have AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS or better future AMD APU .
With this powerful APU I could also play games at 1080p without Mind Graphics also when I'm in travel with the Khadas Mind in Laptop mode .
And I could consider Mind Graphic only to play games at 2k or 4k.
Thank you for your valuable suggestions. We greatly appreciate your input, and we will certainly take into consideration the popular AMD solution for Khadas Mind in our future development plans.
@@Khadas agree with him! I might sell my X13 flow with the egpu to buy this instead 😅. I'm just worried about the price.
About the Mind X Play, I am curious if you will have different sizes or just one. Also, it would be nice to be able to use the GPU with it but it looks like it would be physically impossible at the moment. I don't see the mindxplay option when donating.
Khadas, don't stop! You gotta keep making more! Buying mine soon ❤️
had this idea every since asus padfone was introduced but sadly that (padfone) ended faster than i predict. really love how this concept is being revived and instead of a phone, its a computer now.
Hey khadas! Look I am just a random guy for you guys… but I am really impressed about this! I am in the pc world for a long long time. I have one thing, I really want to buy this but. If you guys can make an huge upgrade model for about 1300-1500 dollar/euro that has a higher grade cpu that can run games and a lot more… like an i9 or something in that range. I would buy the product 100% if you guys also keep bringing like more and more of the extra “accessoires/ products” I really think you guys can make this super big, so if you bring more higher end stuff to, then its gonne be a big win for everyone!
Thank you for this. It means a lot!
@@Khadas are you guys gonne make a higher end one? If so I wil buy it for sure! Also a graphics card with 12+ gig ddr6 also very nice like an rtx 4080/7800xt
For like the mind graphics
Huge opportunity if done right. Key is having docks with data storage options and good connectivity for work, and another Gaming / Workstation capable dock at home with at least RTX 3070Ti and 3090Ti level graphics to cover needs. So far all vendors have under-baked the graphics with RTX 3060 / 4060 or RX 7600 XT which are not good enough...
Thanks a lot for your advise!
As soon as you release the xPlay I will happily switch to the Khadas ecosystem. I mean the mind V2, graphics dock, and the xPlay - the idea of having the same machine be used in a multitude of setups is what seems amazing to me. Before someone says just use a laptop... I just find this concept way more intriguing and efficient. Have to say, AMD version would be more appealing considering Intel's questionable development choices the past few years.
If they made a version with AMD Ryzen 7000 series I would buy it immediately.
Thank you for the valuable advice. We appreciate your input and will carefully consider it. : p
Would it not make more sense to go arm? I like this concept as well.@@Khadas
Wow, this is superb tool. Just let see how the price speaks out.
Ok I am sold. Maybe next year when I get into Uni for Engineering and need a windows system.
Pretty cool I have to say.
Man! this looks amazing!
The problem is that this project is based on Intel Platform.
Instead I would prefer AMD, because also with the new 7xxx processor I can use Windows 10 and use older programs I need that are not well supported on win 11.
With the architecture P/E core we are forced to windows 11, that is also slower than Windows 10 as Microsoft keeps adding bloatware every upgrade.
If there were an option like AMD 7735 hs or 7035U series + graphic module I would be truly interested.
Wating for the opening for the laptop dock And for the higher mind!
What did I just watch? Why have I not heard about this before? My goodness. If the external GPU there is strong enough, this would be an insane device.
Hi Martin. The Mind Graphics is almost ready and will be shipped to our backers in June. It's now open for pre-order: www.khadas.com/product-page/mind-graphics.
@@Khadas Awesome! I'll be in touch ;)
This just blew my 'mind'. 😏
It would be nice to ditch proprietary dock connection in favor of the oculink/usb4 solution, because it is more pro-consumer allowing to use diy or third party equipment
Hi. Would you make an Amd version and the xplay will be release ?
When is the xplya releasing?
best looking min pc ..love it !
Having an amd apu with a handheld gaming peripheral attatchment would get me to buy this.
That would be my dream PC
Thank you for the valuable advice. We appreciate your input and will carefully consider it.
You guys should collab with Frameworks.
(Making a Minecraft server with this would be great)
Brutal!!! Cuando lo haga Apple (que lo hará) será REVOLUCIONARIO. 😆
I would love to review this!
When would xplay monitor be on sale?
The i7-1360p is a little behind the ryzen 9 7940hs, no? Not considering integrated graphics. You can have a work/creator lineup and a gaming lineup.
As a 3d artist I need a portable solution, but there is simply no manufacturer adding enough memory to their systems
32gb ram isn't enough
I'd love to buy something like i7 1370p with 64 ram and a high end gpu with 16 gb vram, like radeon rx 6800xt
but then the system would cost like 3k $ :P
Nowadays there is no viable solution except building my own sff rig.
I don't get it personally how can't a company with production volumes accomplish something competitive to a home-built pc.
It is either absurdly expensive, or has lackluster performance.
Until this problem is solved I don't see how portable PCs can become a popular thing.
Can it connect with Ipad pro, iPhone, and android?
Would like a mind with a higher end cpu and higher end graphics
I've heard everyone talk about Khadas but where can I buy it in my Country?
India. I can help if you want to have an outreach here.
Thank you for your comment! I'm thrilled to let you know that Khadas Mind is now available on Kickstarter. You are welcome to place your order, and rest assured, we offer worldwide shipping to your country. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact crowdfunding@khadas.com
Nice 👏
Wow 👌
If the processor choice improves I’m definitely on board
I am sold, when’s the release?
Excellent concept. But I still prefer MacBook Air M2/3 or plus an external eGPU for cheaper mature solution than Khadas
One reason - why this 5.0 pcie connector did not be dirty and non-working?
Oh gosh this thing is AWESOME!!
Most appreciated!
It's cool that you guys managed to accomplish such a feat, but i have a question.
How is this "always work on the same computer" any different than carrying a Live USB Stick with a Linux system on it? Sure one could argue it's more cost-effective to have a single computer and connect it to different peripherals and such, but then again, a USB Stick is more portable, and i'm guessing those various docking stations aren't gonna be cheap, either
Some advantages I can think of. First is speed. The system has a nvme ssd, which is faster than usb. The second is ease of use. You need more technical knowledge for a live usb, and you have to configure all the hosts to boot from usb.
@@PeterAuto1 yeah but then again, is this worth the additional cost? Learning to press F12 at startup to select a boot device doesn't seem like much of an issue for most.
However as for speed, yeah i can see situations where USB 3.1 or even Thunderbolt speeds just won't cut it: things like gaming or using some really heavy program, but then again, if you're gaming you're probably better off with a steam deck anyways, and if you're doing some heavy duty work with windows-only software like the adobe suite... Then yeah, this could actually be the best thing to use afaik
But i feel like even in this case, this is just more unnecessary complexity
But this is just what i think, i might be wrong, you let me know
cant wait to add 64gb of ram and a quantized LLM model on dis
Wow😮❤
Can it hotplug into the external gpu without turning it off and on again?
Looks nice, but did something change with nvidia not allowing to sell full desktop gpus for egpu enclosures? If not then those are amd or nvidia mobile gpus?
i dont think nvidia can block users from buying full sized gpus for egpu enclosures? last i checked egpu connections are bandwidth limited by the connection. so even if you throw a 4090 inside, you wont get the full performance cause it cant pass through.
Ahh caray, esto si me interesa!
this yt male is scoring DEI points
Would great to consider the new Ryzen AI 300 Series or Intel 185H and RTX 4070 ti with dual encoders and 64 GB ram, name it ultra or max since this replace mac ultra for windows lovers who need high performance for video editing.
Global distribution? Linux support?
Please feel free to contact support@khadas.com，Our technical support staff and sales representatives will get back to you in a timely manner.
so its a laptop with extra steps?
ITX with less steps
A modular one, if you must call it a laptop. It is not shackled to a display and keyboard with limited ports and a fixed gpu.
Mini Desktop with extra steps 😂
I'm pretty sure you can upgrade this. You can't really upgrade a laptop 🤔
No, Prebuild PC but more compact
Does this use an Intel Element module?
Khadas Mind uses the Intel 13gen core processor. Could you please clarify which specific Element module you are referring to?
Why not make it 1" wider to fit 2280 nvme's? Big mistake.
we agree that "standard" 2280 might comes more flexible for most users, also larger capacity available. During the RnD stage, our team also discuss on the decision on this, but the reason we finally just go with 2x 2230 SSD are that:
1) The Mind not able to put into a 2280 SSD, as the 2280 SSD will overlap with the area on the back of the CPU, where will be a certain amount of heat generated from the CPU.
2) Also, we trust 2230 will become more and more popular in the near future :)
Thanks you for point out what your concerns, and your voice make sense for us.
Wait how is this a good idea?
coming out in 2024 ?
2034
Available on Kickstarter right now: www.kickstarter.com/projects/khadasmind/khadas-mind-your-next-gen-portable-workstation
Apple will do this in 5 Years.
A mac mini that can be converted to mac studio or mac pro
Connect external Audio Mixing Devices
Connect Storage
Connect ARM based Propriotry GPU
Connect A Battery
Connect whatever.
And that will sell like hot cakes.
early adopter skull canyon, overheat since day one.
600$ lol
The modular design is an additional source of costs and errors, with a proprietary connector. I'm already very keen *not* to buy it.