Women on average aren't funny. They stopped being funny when Joan Rivers died and they put Amy Schumer on the frontline to spearhead the self degradation movement of talking about their upper thigh caves/how many tenants it has and how incompetent men are compared to them Calling a female a comedian is like calling an only fans girl an entrepreneur.
You should add the time component to find the "wife" usually they say no multiples times and try you with the famous "bullshit test" or many other one and after this periode she will finally say Yes. It show the woman has value (doesn't get pregnant by anybody) and the man capability to handle life situation (dealing with peoples) or tests(dealing with kids to raise them).
They don't want to take accountability for sex. They don't want to feel the guilt. Sex should always be the man's fault. All bad boys know this. Always go all the way when women agree to go back to your place.
When they say I have no time for games it means I am tired of Chads playing spinning plates with me. Wife me up dammit! But I will still bang one if I get a tinder match, cause maybe this one will wife me up. Meanwhile the rest of you betas will have to jump through various hoops to get a chance on used up little me.
I mean sex is pretty great. You are missing out on something. It's very tough right now but if you find someone you really love and are with them the experience is unimaginably positive.
@@desertdude8274 love =/= sex man. Sex is cool and all, there are ways to experience it without harming yourself and others but don’t conflate the two.
You miss out on the highest level of intimacy two people can share. This is a tragic situation and I'm tired of dudes constantly saying "Yeh I'm much happier being completely alone and seething about women online. Perfectly happy. Nothing could make me happier. Nope. Don't want human connection, don't need it." It's sad and horrendous advice.
This is kind of like paying taxes. The IRS knows exactly how much you owe, but you still have to figure it out yourself anyway, and if you do it wrong, you go to jail.
They have now done the same thing five years in a row: made me do all that math, corrected me, then gave me back more money than I had calculated. I'm like: "Just you do it then." I'd like to sign off on something, trusting them. I might do a quick estimate, and if they're close to my guess, just move on w/my life. It's like they want to keep in touch or something. Keep it personal. WTF.
Except if you're rich, then the auditor ('gold digger') comes into the picture and then makes you have to do more stuff like hiring a lawyer ('wingman') to get you off the hook.
Not entirely true. I've been with women who said no and change to yes after 30 minutes of cuddling. He just didn't try again. Still a stupid game though.
@@kaliss7192 The point is, it is 100% about the woman and what she wants... the man is viewed as a vehicle for her to drive to her destination, whatever that destination is -- no more, no less. Narcissism 101. Not all. Lots, though.
the mistake this dude made was either saying ok to come home with home despite the sex supposedly being off the table, or else he is cordial for about 30 minutes then goes gets a pillow and blanket, throws it at her and says good night.
Girl: "I'm telling you no, but I really want you to try anyway" Guy: "okay, when you say no, but I try anyway, like you wanted, how do I know when you really mean no? Girl: "when the cops show up."
Well, as the video said, if she plays headgames, says no but wants you to still make a move, what is the best thing you will get? Is a hookup or being with a crazy worth the risk of going to jail for?
Yup, it's the classical narcissist tactic of "i'm mad you can't read my mind." Instant red flag because it shows a lack of respect for your autonomy as someone with individual thoughts and feelings and prioritizes her impressions over yours.
When a woman says "No", she means "Not right now" It doesn't mean she'll say "Yes" later. Neither does it mean she'll say "No" later. She's simply saying what she feels in that moment. So if a woman says "I'm not having sex with you when we get back to your place." It means "Right now, I don't want to have sex with you when we get back to your place" But by the time she gets back to his place, she may feel differently. For example, she may have been testing the guy to see if he was overactive like, "WTF?! I spent this entire dinner on you bla bla bla" But once he didn't react, she felt more comfortable with him. And once they were in a private place and their bodies were touching, she felt a "Yes"
@@jake.presents But she didn't initiate when she felt that "yes" nor did she state it. So the whole explanation you gave was pointless. "Testing" is just an excuse for women to waste men's time so they can get as much attention and validation out of men they aren't interested in.
I love how I get 50 likes in the first minute after publishing. You all just assume you will like it because I am CONSISTENT. Let this be a lesson to the rest of the content creators in the whole world and all time
ive been studying your map about concioussness and i think i know on what level i am based on the video but it brought up a question for me how could i bring someone to a higher level or if its even possible and if it is is it even worth the trouble
I disagree. Even clicking on the video and subscribing especially is a act of faith that your products are consistently high in value. Why not like right away when you already have put in faith?
"What are you gay?" "No, I just dont feel like risking prison for sex." "But now I feel ugly." "I missed the part where that is my problem." Live long enough and you will be the bad guy. Might as well do it on your own terms young men.
"no means no." "ok." "but also yes." "wait..." "that's correct. i am simultaneously waiting but also down." "😬ummm..." [next day] "i can't believe he was gay and/or a sexual predator." höedinger's dilemma
Are her 15 year old cats alive or not so much? We can only check in on her in 20 years, so we can't really know today if they're still alive. Is she continuing to buy cat food?
Good way to catch a case. And from this comment i know youre one of those dudes with thr potential for 40 cases out there. And brag about every one of them
If the consent education they were pushing were capable of solving the problem then you wouldn't need to have consent educators to solve the problem they, as an ideological whole, chose to create.
@@garybicknell2135 Tbh I think the issue is that generally we teach consent education from a fairly sanitized female perspective rather than with an understanding of what both men and women want and are trying to achieve.
@@ShnoogleMan this is liberalism right now as a hole. Gender studies but all genders except man. Always talk about patriarchy (only bad sides), never talking about matriarchy.
Don't worry, cizzy. Woman wish for the good ol' days too, when a bloody soldier would return from war, and it was on. She loved it because he just got through unaliving a bunch of actual men--nothing studlier--and he loved it because it meant giving her the gift of life.
Seriously. I don't seek hookups or whatever playing games is either (seriously what does that mean, I'm a girl but also autistic lol) but I wouldn't feel the need to include that. If a guy is going to pressure you for sex, no verbal warning will help.
About 12 years ago I had been dating this girl for a couple weeks. Very tame restaurant dates, nothing physical happening at that point. I invited her to be my date at a wedding, which involved a hotel stay. When we got in bed I put the moves on her, and she said "I don't want to have sex tonight". I said ok, gave her a peck on the lips, rolled away from her and went to sleep. 5 mins later she nudged me awake, and said (and I will never forget her exact words because this became a core memory) *"you have to be more forceful"*. Didn't do it, and dumped her the next morning. Don't need that mind game stress in my life.
Well, purity matters in the male scale. You're thinking about it 12 years later because she showed you a "dirty" mind but remained pure (at least towards you, physically). You want to do dirty deeds with a pure woman, that's your own dilemma to reconcile. She just wants to play house with an attractive man.
I went home with a girl like that, she kept talking about men not giving her a choice when she was saying no and hinting she liked it. I was like oooook goodnight
@@monicaturiacdon't justify behaviour like this. If you are not aware of the problems caused by behaviour like this then think of the 'culture' you always go on about
except this gives those few handsome looking high quality guys even more of an advantage, since they do approach. but they get more yes'es in both spoken and body language anyways so they don't get as many mixed signals. but if you are not on top of the food-chain - good fucking luck :)
@@dom8429 Ugly dogs do a lot of approaching too. Even celebrities get the 4D chess board thrown at them. There is no sexual hierarchy, there are good decisions and there are tragic ones; both are supposed to build character. If you pay close attention you can learn from others mistakes and develop RESOLVE.
That's a Princess mentality when a man needs to climb a tower to get her. But she can change her mind on the fly since she didn't agree to it just gave you a hint that she wants it. Most likely you will get hurt.
It's such a bs myth when people say "women are better comunicators". They might be more social (specially amongst themselves) but that doesnt mean being better at communicating.
They are mistaking expressing their "emotions" with actual communication. An infant is great at expressing emotions. Doesnt mean they are great at communicating. Dont play the game. 90% of the time when a man communicates it is just used against him as emotional blackmail later.
@@resignatorThey don't even express emotions well. They never directly explain what they're feeling. They always make some random tangential comment and expect you to decipher the "feeling" of it.
Yeah but when women talk to each other they get it like their telepathic so they are good communicators in the sense that they understand others well but then they try that sh** with us and it just doesn’t work lmao.
@@Etet777 lol no they do not get it, it's why after they get done talking they go back and talk to their other friends about how the other friend doesn't get her and how she misinterpreted what she was saying and how she's tryingto backstab her.
Worst it attacks order and thus the concepts of truth, justice, and innocent. But remember guys we can't make laws punishing this because..... reasons.
This is evolutionary and socializing on many forms. To complain about it is to reject reality. Learning and embracing your natural masculinity makes dealing with women so much easier
"But experienced, competent communicators will pick up on the signals and body language to know what I want. It's another layer of filtering." It has the same vibe as "entry level position. 10+ years experience required."
It's sort of true, the more women you're with, the more you can pick up on things. Two universal rules are: 1) The woman will ALWAYS ghost you at some point, so it's best to get as far sexually as you can as quickly as possible, if you're attracted to her. 2) ANY physical contact (holding hands/cuddling kissing) at any point in the date is an invitation for sex.
@@willshadthat’s not necessarily true. Physical touch can be rescinded by the seller at any point. It may plant a seed, but it isn’t conclusive or definitive
I'm glad you pointed out the female/feminine energy is considered chaos or the "darker" energy in ancient beliefs. It's honestly the most important philosophical knowledge that we have lost in the modern world. Finding this in my research of ancient beliefs, helped me understand and made total sense.
@@tlothompson6935 it also has to do with chaos has the power to change and create something new, which is symbolize as a women giving birth. Chaos is not a evil force, but dangerous without order. Just as order without chaos will become nothing.
Doesn't really help me because everything my wife does and says goes against our ability to work together and we are diametrically oppossed in pretty much all areas of thought.
This isnt even specific to women. Women will say something and do another, men *typically* will mean what they say, but due to other factors like ability and their competency their words and actions wont line up.
I'm autistic. This is why I gave up on dating. I get more support and acceptance from men than women even though they're supposed to be more empathetic and "emotionally mature".
They mistake emotional attunement with emotional maturity. Basically they experience the world primarily through their emotions. I assume they feel uncomfortable because your autistic characteristics throws off their emotions, but it only throws off the thoughts of men so they can adapt more easily
Men are way more inclusive by nature. They are just going to let you know the truth. Women are more exclusive and passive aggressive. They have to seem peaceful while laying waste to other women
I'm autistic too. Whenever I look at dating, it just looks all so tiresome. Interacting with people normally is already exhausting, this just sounds like extra work. At this point I'm starting to suspect that the only way for an autistic person to make it in modern dating is to find a girl who is also on the spectrum. Although, mileage may vary
It is true, a hot guy to her would never get told that she would not do anything before she came over. But he does not have to even be physically hotter than other men. He "just" have to seduce her to want him before he invited her over. She need to feel hot for him and to already want him before he asked.
That's okay, remember, 50% of men throughout history didn't procreate. It's perfectly okay to be among them. But let's also not start gaslighting ourselves that it's unfair or some stuff, you needed this skill if you wanted to procreate. It's never going to get better, and they'll never stop being what they are. Walk away.
He was, but he kinda messed up by still taking her to his place even though she said she wouldn't sleep with him. If you make your home the boundary line between something non-sexual and sexual, you can control it better. He then just 'cuddled' with her and didn't make any more moves even though he wanted to, which turned her off. Basically, he entered the arena of the dangerous game even though he could have avoided it altogether
@@PantsofVance Yes. He was probably hoping she would change her mind and say so. But if she can changed her mind once she can change it back again later.
if that's what he was trying to do, then he was doing it in the worst way possible. It's like trying to avoid getting reipd in prison by picking up the soap
@@geobloxmodels1186I have actually seen a story or two about a woman claiming she was r***ed because regretted the sex after she had already consented to it, of course this was the next day she regretted it, it’s not like halfway through she changed her mind.
@@miltonbates6425100% good at covert communication but 0% good at overt communication still averages out to 50%. Which is a failing grade. The goal is to be 100% good at both modes of communication. They’re still terrible at communication, in general, from that perspective
Go figure…. the half of humans who want life to “happen” to them also refuse any accountability for their outcomes. That is why they have to disregard men who improve - it wreaks of fakery to them because that’s the only way improvement manifests for themselves.
Here's a challenge for women (and whiteknight men as well); whenever a male is critical of women in any way DONT call them a incel or say they're "misogynistic" *difficulty: impossible*
Finally. Some sense. No is no. Walk away. Quit thinking about it. If they never learn then you're encouraging it. If another guy gets it. Let it go it was never meant to be. No means walk away. So easy but guys want to chase. Into a court case. Go ahead do the same thing that gets other into trouble. Don't learn from others and your personal mistakes. No Means Walk Away.
Sad part is that we have no way of warning the 🐻 about the mess that’s coming their way. On the other hand….female bears are not going to tolerate human females making a dumpster fire of the male / female bear dynamic like they have done to their own kind 🤣
The funniest part of the "joke" that inspired this is that odds are the guy was genuinely happy with cuddling all night. Like, maybe he didn't even feel like having sex and didn't need to restrain himself. Maybe he was just thinking "this is nice", while the girl was losing 4D chess against herself
She didn't want to be pressured into sex, even though she wanted it. If she didn't want it she never would have went home with the guy. So when the guy didn't push for it, she got turned on because for some reason if you ever initiate it with a woman she will say no, even if she wants it. But if you don't initiate, it will drive her nuts. It's all a game they play. My wife yells me "i need nonsexual affection" yet when we first met she ripped my clothes off on the 2nd date and she didn't even know me. It all depends on a girls fickle state of mind.
@@mr.mayhem7402 women believe they can mind read each other, but they actually can’t. That’s why women are always getting into drama with each other; a lot of it could be avoided if women just said what they mean instead of pretending they can read minds. And because women believe they can read minds, they get annoyed with men because they also can’t read minds.
- Didn't do anything and I liked it: He is so nice! - Didn't do anything and didn't like it suddenly: A gay weak loser! - Did as I wanted and I liked it: So hot! - Did as I wanted and I didn't like it suddenly: I got SAd for no reason :(
@@bboye.musical9349 this is actually true, most women hit peak maturity by 14 years old which is why they act like teenagers for the rest of their lives.
Putting it in simple terms: if they're mature adults they will speak clearly and say what they mean and mean what they say. If they're immature and still have the mental process of a child they will be vague because they don't want to take responsibility for what they say. Dating is for adults. If they show to be vague, in other words immature, then they shouldn't be dating. Just leave them and walk away.
exactly...they want to stay children and not have the responsibility commitment requires...and we know because we can see it with those who are actually successfully married but nah...we'd rather follow the Friends TV show or Cardi B methods...
I'd actually disagree with you. Children have better thought processes. Children are the most brutally honest people you will spend time with. They're the ones that'll tell you that the color green you're wearing looks a smidge too much like poop or that your voice sounds funny or that you have a big nose or something. Children are born better than that. Women obscure their thoughts not in some child-like attempt, but because their entire framework for understanding men relies on Romance movies, Romance novels and Fairy Tales. In those, the men do act like mind readers and know the best action to woo the female lead. These women are like men who expect a woman to orgasm after rubbing the general area for 30s because they saw that on porn. Women have that level of delusional training for romance. It may be immaturity, but it's not childishness. You sell kids short on that one. Though, I don't seek to criticize without something to help. Best top for dealing with a partner who acts like all of that and plays games is to ask her what her favorite romance novels are. Most women have a few. Read them. Study them. They're your cheat codes. Because will find 2-3 books/series that they will base their entire romantic impressions on. I got a partner who CAN be direct about it but she's often more easily in the mood when she's not forced to be direct. Hence the whole excitement thing mentioned in the video. I don't really ever need her to be direct anymore because I just ask myself what the male lead would do in that book if I ever find myself debating the signals then... Bam. 10 minutes later she's practically reaching for my belt and I have to spend the next few hours trying to avoid having my grapes turn into raisins.
Yes, if women really want to be treated as equals and to not be infantilized, they have to start behaving like adults, and that means learning how to use verbal communication (among other things, like taking responsibility for their actions).
I think they do this for plausible deniability. Similar to when they say “I was just joking”, after they realized what they said had a negative response.
Never take a girl like that home. She will either have you arrested the next day for sexual abuse or key your car because you ignored her. The only way to win is don't play the game.
I've been with hundreds of women, and have NEVER been in a situation where either of those has happened. Not even close. 99% of the time, they ghost you soon after, whether you have sex, or not have sex, whether is goes well or doesn't go well. If you're attracted to her, then it's ALWAYS best to try to go as far sexually as you can as soon as possible. Take it to the point where she physically pulls away or stops you; you'd be surprised how many women don't do that simply because it would embarrassing, or they may get caught up in the moment. Always assume you'll never see or hear from her again, and get the most you can out of the experience.
Also for the few women that find their way here - if you ever think "why doesn't he get the hint" immediately stop hinting or the body language and communicate what you want.
@@bluebutterfly5062 it would be great if every girl was sensible like that and we had clear easy rules that everyone understood. As a woman, you can say something like this. If a guy says it though, then it’s victim blaming and “patriarchy bad.” When I was younger, I would have assumed if she was in my bed that meant she wanted me to try but it only takes one scary moment in your life to change your perspective on these things forever.
Bro for the 5000 times stop trying to educate women. Think why you're doing that? It's literally you trying to hold on to some kind of unicorn NAWALT blue pill fantasy even if you're not consciously aware of it. They don't care they don't analyze their behavior, they don't do introspection. And they're not going to appreciate you and you're not going to find the one that you can train or whatever your fantasy is I'm not trying to say this in a dick way, but you got to let go
@@1TightMinute yeah it's the same thing as a girl telling you vs another guy telling you "hey you need to work on your finances, it's not a good look" One is taken as advice, the other is taken as cristism But you are right to assume if she's in your bed, she prob wants it. Not sure why women think otherwise 🤔
You can end up in jail no matter what you do. If she gets angry at you because you took the no at face value and didn’t make a move, she can still accuse you of SA and destroy your life
All women play these games or different ones like them. The problem here isnt women but thinking treating women legally as if they are men magically makes it so. Womens lib was a mistake. And so is fornication.
My trick has just been to remember that every "no" is a no, and so are most yeses. She doesn't want you, she wants something she thinks she can _get_ from you and she'll move on once she no longer can. Approaching things this way means you've got a 90% chance of not having your life ruined for guessing wrong.
@@AJadedLizard yep there is a whole subreddit on how saying no but t changing it to yes later is still rape. The basic gist of the whole thread is you told him no but then he seduced you so it’s not your fault and it’s just as bad as someone jumping out of the bushes. It actually holds up in court. If you admit she told you “no” clearly and you understood it and then you chose to continue to try and doesn’t matter how she responds after that. You are guilty. When they say no. It’s a no. Game over. Move on. It’s funny. You tell women this and they still want you to try and you are gay if you don’t. Totally oblivious.
@@1TightMinute I knew a girl a few years ago who was constantly complaining about her ex. Huge age gap, 18 and 24. Didn't have a car, didn't live in the same city, one of them was constantly putting in all the effort to be together. When she finally broke up with him, she made him out to be some sort of predator who coerced her into dating him. Trouble is, she was six years older than him (he was 18, and she was 24), and she was the one constantly going to him because he didn't have a car. 100% of the choices leading to this relationship were hers, she had _all_ the agency, and yet when _she_ ended it she still made herself out to be the victim. It's an absolutely insane level of delusion.
@@1TightMinutewe had a lot of SA education in the navy. Boot camp kinda opened my mind to what should be expected. The best line I’ve ever heard: “Raise your hand if you’ve ever proceeded to try to make a move on a girl after they’ve already said no.” Everybody in the room raised their hand. It was about 150 dudes. “You are all guilty of *ap*.” It made me stop and think about it for real. That was in 2005.
We also had fathers who told their daughters not to go to strange men's houses. But alas, women can do WHATEVER they want without consequence. I said before, where I live, if a woman did this, there's zero case for her to claim SA after the fact: "You went to sleep in a man's bed? What the hell you think was going to happen?" How ridiculous is it, that she could have stripped naked, started playing with herself on his bed, in front of him, but say "no, you can't do anything" and that's the end of that, because the law only considers the man as having agency over his actions.
I especially liked the part where the conclusion of the problem of females playing games and failing to communicate is once again the responsibility of the man to adjust to. Bravo!
Expecting (most) women to take responsibility for anything ever is delusional. It was a terrible mistake to let them hold office, vote, or own property for this exact reason. Exceptions can be made for exceptional women.
@@GimliofGarden I agree. I don't like that I have to agree on those points, but I do agree. This is not the perfect world of equality that many think it is.
It is our responsibility bro. It sucks, but life sucks. Women aren’t men, we can’t expect the same level of propriety and respect that we expect from ourselves. We leave the titanic last man, it’s just the reality of the situation. No hate towards them, I still think girls are awesome. But is my girl going to help me with my problems or have that special kind of self awareness and self control that only men seem to exhibit? No I don’t expect that from her. “Her problems are my problems, and my problems are my problems”.
@zeroneutral "you deserve what you tolerate" No, it's called responsibility. How do you not get that after just having it explained to you? Lmao what's with the female mindset, single mother raised?
I’ve noticed myself and friends not approaching women. Even with ostensible signs. Last time I attempted - I got prolonged eye contact, and a warm smile from her. I approached simply to have a friendly conversation. She reacted as if I was being a creep. It turned me off. She came off as extremely vein and self consumed
Only in the white western society, because black people and Muslims keep pumping out babies at a fast peace, replacing little by little the native population of the countries they emigrate to.
@@deyhatejujo They never really face consequences of their behavior, society protects them and will give them a slap on the wrist for all but the most egregious of offenses.
@@miltonbates6425 like lying about sa. almost none of them face any consequences for their lies when the guy is proven to be innocent after their lives are ruined.
seen the rational male posts covering fem teacher on boy student gwape epidemic? minuscule societal awareness nor whistle-blowing nor p3do charges brought. truly an amazing time we live in...
This is one of the main reasons I'm over 50 and single. Thank the Lord, I always chose the "go home" option. Make sure the exit is near, in case the signs are unclear.
Yeah, it do be like that. Kinda like the top percent of men are few and far between. The same goes for women, the 'decent person' ones are near nonexistent. 🤔 (Decent women do exist, the way you can tell. Is what girls do the majority of women hate/exclude from the tribe?) They despise tomboys -funnily enough even a lot of conservatives despise them too- They despise capable, hard working southern women They despise "pick mes" Observing what they hate, gives better insight into who they are deep down.
@@jvillain9946because literally everything in life is a compromise, and being unable or unwilling to compromise actually makes YOU the weak entitled one.
I learned a long time ago how to navigate this particular issue: Women don't say what they want, so pay attention to what they actually respond positively to. And just don't play games. If she's clearly flirting with you, but denies that she is take her at her word, turn around and walk away. She might even try to stop you, and that's your opportunity to end the games and just talk like people.
Tip for women. You want men to do things for you and to you, so you can be receptive and feminine. Be honest early, be willing to put in the work to benefit later. When you husband or long term boyfriend gets good data, he will be able to anticipate what you want, but a guy you just met can't. See the yin/yang symbol? There is a little dot of order in chaos, and a little dot of chaos in order. You can't ignore that part.
Exactly, I cut it short with “I like deliberate women”. She not being clear means she is not sure herself of what she wants and she wants you to take the responsibility of her (and you at that point) finding out. She leads with her emotions.
She says yes, her body language says yes, AND YOU HAVE IT ALL ON VIDEO, you and three other people, two pairs of two, all four very willing and consenting, all over the age of 21, and you're the quarterback of the Florida State Seminoles, and yet after all that video proof to the contrary, you still face drape charges, of course are found innocent, but you still have to pay her more money than I've earned in the last 20 years combined. Jameis Winston, still in the NFL, but his wallet is lighter.
Whenever they say things like "I might be the problem" or "Tell me if I'm wrong", they never think they're the problem and never think they're wrong. It's false humility.
@@TopJazzCat ---- that's because women are never or very rarely held accountable for making bad decisions or bad choices. They don't have to and don't want to take responsibility when things don't go the way she wants it to. Women, never want to be perceived as a hoe even when they are a hoe. They know it, you know it, but God help you if you point it out to her or make her feel like a hoe unless that's her thing when you get her in bed or a closet, or bathroom, elevator, tied up to a saw horse, etc...
its a joke tho. the guy is right when he says that jokes are grounded in reality, but its heavily exaggerated for more engagement and a better story. the thought she had was probably closer to "why do i kinda want him to have sex with me im such a bad person lol" than "im angry that he didnt have sex with me" like she portrays it in the story
@@TopJazzCat --- you can also keep this in mind... Women like to pretend that "they aren't that type of girl" when they actially are. So they will make a guy wait for sex but still let him take her out and put in the effort playing that she is a good girl, while he buys her dinners and flowers etc... for weeks and sometimes dudes will wait months. But all the while during that game she's getting run through by some Chad and Tyrone who give her the late night booty call and never take her out on a date, never meet her in public, never spend a dime on her and she's just hiving it up for free and no effort on those dude's part a couple times a week. While the other dude is having to pay in multiple ways and get nothing because she says she really likes him and doesn't want him to think she's a hoe. Women are so screwed up in the head.
@@1c0nic_playernah it wasnt. You clearly missed the point in the video where he said the "joke" isnt that she is exaggerating or making up stuff, the joke is that she isnt supposed to say it out loud. What makes this a joke to her is that shes speaking truth that women arent supposed to say out loud. Thats what makes it a joke.
This is why men prefer video games to playing games with women. There are clear cut rules. If you lose a video game, that's the worst thing that could happen. If you lose the game played with a woman that smoking gun could turn your life into a mushroom cloud. If you don't know, it's time to go.
A very small percent of men are extremely persistent in providing these women with the attention they seek (but complain about). The vast majority of men are not to blame.
funny how the men they really want not only "can" but most of the time "want" to live without a woman that's why they pick and chose and have a different one every day or so
New to the Hoe Math breakdown, have you done a breakdown outside of the Matrix dynamic in the USA🤔 the comparisons of American women and others would be huge discovery! Thanks for content, hilarious yet very on point.
It's marketing. They want to have something to have as their strength. It's not logic, strength, speed, loyalty, intelligence, artistry or any of a hundred other virtues. So they repeat that they're great communicators. 🙄
16:45 indeed, that (again) was a truly satisfyingly convincing argument to follow up on. both intellectually and in design-thinking-wise presentation. thanks.
The 'sex offender' thing is overblown IMO. The worst that will happen is that she pulls away or stops you. if you continue AFTER that, then you're looking for trouble. No court in the world is going to convict you for attempting a kiss on a woman that you're hanging out with at your place, or even for attempting to touch her breast. She would be laughed out of court.
Right ? And it is not even that far , I live in Europe and that how my grand parents met Grandfather was working as a carpenter for her father who was a farmer building a barn. They chit chat , he says he is alone. "Hey my daughter is 19 and she is single , you seem to be a good guy and you are 22 , you want to come to dinner tomorrow ?" Dinner went well , she went for it and ta-da , 1 year latter married. 2 years latter my father was born. My grand parents are now past 70 , have 50 years of solid mariage , 4 kids , 10 grand kids , but no grand grand kids because all my cousins are guys and are evolving in that shitty dating landscape. Only my little brother who is the tallest and the most handsome of all our cousins has a girlfriend. On 10 guys. And we are talking about serious working men not basement dwellers or pot addicts. All in the same situation , I'm the oldest of my cousins , I'm the first son of the first son of the first son of the first son etc etc , I'm 30 and it doesn't seem like I will have kids one day. Quite sad. But at least women can have hook ups and be empowered so it is maybe worth it.
It literally explicitly is. You will be given preferential treatment in hiring/firing/and benefits. Your DEI checkboxes literally determine your social credit score in this new society.
Yup. I accuse women of being homophobic if they do that to me. I subtly suggest that if their workplace found out that wouldn't be good. I force them to apologise for me. I tell them how it would make them feel if I accused them of being a lesbian. They don't like turnabout, but it is fair and equal, and that's what women say they want. Don't like it? Say what you want then.
As a man you DO NOT have to learn in this case. The "male" way of communicating is objectively the correct way. Learning to understand females and their visual clues means making mistakes along the way. Thats what learning is. If I make a mistake, my life could be over in different ways. The effort and risk of men trying to learn to understand female communication compared to females learning how to communicate correctly with men is way higher. The easiest way is to ignore these types of women, not to interact with them and let them suffer under their own incompetence. Also a very good tip, always record or let someone else record/film the consent that was given. This will not always help, but it can be effective as a way to make her not lie about the consent that was given and might help you out in proving your point
How do you guys even deal with American women? Jeezuz. Saying the juice isn't worth the squeeze is an understatement, since at best all you get is some putrid vinegar-like substance anyway.
Every true problem I've ever had in a relationship was due to taking what a woman said at face value. Consequently a lot of "positive" outcomes I've also had were from them rewarding toxic behaviour in myself. Which I was then disgusted by afterwards. I've basically given up on the idea of finding something authentic.
It's really a trip when appaling behavior gets you "positive" outcomes as opposed to good/decent behavior. Makes you question everything you thought you knew.
My whole life I never felt more unease when with a woman who says no, she says she's not interested, but acting like she's down & ready. I've only had that happen to me twice and I've gone home both times. I've always felt like I've dodged some cannon balls in both instances.
You can deal with it by just challenging her verbally. "I don't like youi" ... "so why are you still here? you obviously do". push it until she drops the game or leaves, no trouble had at all
Yes that's the whole point of the video. And this also applies in many other aspects of life. Life is like a buffet, you're often the one that picks the food you get to eat.
@@j.a.osorio2005 Most men don't have a 'buffet' of attractive women to choose from. it's easy to say 'just walk away' when you're not in that situation, alone with an attractive woman that you've already invested time and money into. If I'm attracted to her, then I'm going to go as far sexually as I can, up to the point where she's physically pushing me away. Men are expected to be the aggressive ones here.
I HATE when people bring up exceptions as if it makes the majority simply dissapear They don't want to have a conversation, they just wanna feel like they "won"
@@Asto508 That’s the point with social interactions between modern men and women. If majority of population shows the same traits, those that exhibit otherwise are exception to the rule. Same goes for voting, majority confirms the rule, those that are against it are exceptions.
@@osama_bin_mladen If you cannot quantify the exceptions (which I guess you can't), you don't know if your rule is simply garbage. Defining it by a simple majority (>= 50%), it means worst case your rule doesn't apply to 49,999999999% of the population which means you are at the level of tossing a coin. Exceptions should be seen as the defining indicator to check if your model holds any water and nothing to be "mad" about or accept as given. If your model is correct, there are no exceptions.
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Women on average aren't funny. They stopped being funny when Joan Rivers died and they put Amy Schumer on the frontline to spearhead the self degradation movement of talking about their upper thigh caves/how many tenants it has and how incompetent men are compared to them
Calling a female a comedian is like calling an only fans girl an entrepreneur.
You should add the time component to find the "wife" usually they say no multiples times and try you with the famous "bullshit test" or many other one and after this periode she will finally say Yes. It show the woman has value (doesn't get pregnant by anybody) and the man capability to handle life situation (dealing with peoples) or tests(dealing with kids to raise them).
I like the name
Ok
Schrodinger's consent
Haha, this is the best comment on this video. 👏🏻
most underrated comment of all fucking time.
I think that's a fetish.. or a kink?
This is criminally underrated
Yo, I'm so glad I'm a physics nerd that can enjoy this comment
I’m convinced most women won’t say what they want bc they want plausible deniability and the ability to always change their mind on the fly.
this is correct
Accountability is their kryptonite
'it's a woman's prerogative to change her mind'
one of the most infuriating sayings but there's a reason for it.
Stop caring what they want. Tell them what you want. If they consent, then get what you want. If they reject, then just move on.
They don't want to take accountability for sex. They don't want to feel the guilt. Sex should always be the man's fault. All bad boys know this. Always go all the way when women agree to go back to your place.
Girls on Dating Apps: "I have NO time for games."
Women in Real Life: *Breaks out a 4D chess board*
If chess rules was like the rules of Calvinball!
Men playing 5D Checkers:Yes
When they say I have no time for games it means I am tired of Chads playing spinning plates with me. Wife me up dammit! But I will still bang one if I get a tinder match, cause maybe this one will wife me up. Meanwhile the rest of you betas will have to jump through various hoops to get a chance on used up little me.
Not time for games from you not them. Classic rules for thee and not for me.
dating apps are great for them to tell on themselves. no worn out, 50- 60yr old grandmas, should be making any rules.
I love it how Hoe Math's solution can be boiled down to "sex is overrated and if you miss out on it, what have you really lost?"
@@yamibakura8597 exactly our freedom and public perception is far too important
I mean sex is pretty great. You are missing out on something. It's very tough right now but if you find someone you really love and are with them the experience is unimaginably positive.
@@desertdude8274 love =/= sex man. Sex is cool and all, there are ways to experience it without harming yourself and others but don’t conflate the two.
@@AshBuddha I never did.
You miss out on the highest level of intimacy two people can share. This is a tragic situation and I'm tired of dudes constantly saying "Yeh I'm much happier being completely alone and seething about women online. Perfectly happy. Nothing could make me happier. Nope. Don't want human connection, don't need it." It's sad and horrendous advice.
This is kind of like paying taxes. The IRS knows exactly how much you owe, but you still have to figure it out yourself anyway, and if you do it wrong, you go to jail.
😂
They have now done the same thing five years in a row: made me do all that math, corrected me, then gave me back more money than I had calculated. I'm like: "Just you do it then." I'd like to sign off on something, trusting them. I might do a quick estimate, and if they're close to my guess, just move on w/my life. It's like they want to keep in touch or something. Keep it personal. WTF.
Except if you're rich, then the auditor ('gold digger') comes into the picture and then makes you have to do more stuff like hiring a lawyer ('wingman') to get you off the hook.
They'll just charge interest and late fees. The only game they won't play is if you never intended to pay.
They don't know exactly which rebates you have, that's the thing.
Just to add. This woman said no, and meant no. She just wanted the satisfaction of rejecting the guy in order to validate her desirability.
Fully and she should have just gone home and left the poor guy alone.
Not entirely true. I've been with women who said no and change to yes after 30 minutes of cuddling. He just didn't try again. Still a stupid game though.
@@kaliss7192 The point is, it is 100% about the woman and what she wants... the man is viewed as a vehicle for her to drive to her destination, whatever that destination is -- no more, no less. Narcissism 101. Not all. Lots, though.
the mistake this dude made was either saying ok to come home with home despite the sex supposedly being off the table, or else he is cordial for about 30 minutes then goes gets a pillow and blanket, throws it at her and says good night.
@@kaliss7192 And you also have women who said yes the 2nd time because they felt "pressurized" to say yes.
Girl: "I'm telling you no, but I really want you to try anyway"
Guy: "okay, when you say no, but I try anyway, like you wanted, how do I know when you really mean no?
Girl: "when the cops show up."
Well, as the video said, if she plays headgames, says no but wants you to still make a move, what is the best thing you will get? Is a hookup or being with a crazy worth the risk of going to jail for?
This is why captain savea304s have lost respect.
@@ChaptermasterPedroKantor-kv5ywremember safe smex is when she doesn't know your name or number.
If a woman comes over after she "says no" she definitely wants it.
🤣💀🤣 @ cops show up lmaoooooo!!
In my opinion, She was mad that she did Not get to reject him..She wanted him to Simp over her so she could manipulate him.
@charlesislaw DING DING DING
We have a winner!
Yup, it's the classical narcissist tactic of "i'm mad you can't read my mind." Instant red flag because it shows a lack of respect for your autonomy as someone with individual thoughts and feelings and prioritizes her impressions over yours.
When a woman says "No", she means "Not right now"
It doesn't mean she'll say "Yes" later.
Neither does it mean she'll say "No" later.
She's simply saying what she feels in that moment.
So if a woman says "I'm not having sex with you when we get back to your place."
It means "Right now, I don't want to have sex with you when we get back to your place"
But by the time she gets back to his place, she may feel differently.
For example, she may have been testing the guy to see if he was overactive like, "WTF?! I spent this entire dinner on you bla bla bla"
But once he didn't react, she felt more comfortable with him. And once they were in a private place and their bodies were touching, she felt a "Yes"
Yeah she actually told that in the original video!
@@jake.presents
But she didn't initiate when she felt that "yes" nor did she state it. So the whole explanation you gave was pointless.
"Testing" is just an excuse for women to waste men's time so they can get as much attention and validation out of men they aren't interested in.
I love how I get 50 likes in the first minute after publishing. You all just assume you will like it because I am CONSISTENT. Let this be a lesson to the rest of the content creators in the whole world and all time
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Are you flirting with us?
ive been studying your map about concioussness and i think i know on what level i am based on the video but it brought up a question for me how could i bring someone to a higher level or if its even possible and if it is is it even worth the trouble
I disagree. Even clicking on the video and subscribing especially is a act of faith that your products are consistently high in value. Why not like right away when you already have put in faith?
Would you sue me if I make a channel called hoe_history
"What are you gay?"
"No, I just dont feel like risking prison for sex."
"But now I feel ugly."
"I missed the part where that is my problem."
Live long enough and you will be the bad guy. Might as well do it on your own terms young men.
If you didn't feel ugly you wouldn't have on all of that make-up, which means you may really be ugly.
"But now I feel ugly"
"Then look in a mirror"
She never asked him. That was a 100% in-her-head experience that went into the wilds by some miracle of self reflection
This young fellas...don't be afraid to risk female ire...it turns them on when you don't care if they're disappointed.
"Now I feel ugly."
Okay, and?
"no means no."
"ok."
"but also yes."
"wait..."
"that's correct. i am simultaneously waiting but also down."
"😬ummm..."
[next day]
"i can't believe he was gay and/or a sexual predator."
höedinger's dilemma
Are her 15 year old cats alive or not so much? We can only check in on her in 20 years, so we can't really know today if they're still alive. Is she continuing to buy cat food?
A given woman both consents and doesn't consent until you sleep with her and measure the result. Lol
Höedinger. HA!! Nice.
Shit I just made a Hoedinger's cat joke on another comment but looks like you beat me to it 🤣🤣
its called quantum thinking, hence why they like to own Schrödinger's cats.
It's very simple :
Chad : no means yes, tee-hee.
Chud : no means no, creep.
😂
holy fuck the "no, tee hee" was infuriating in a relationship
Good way to catch a case. And from this comment i know youre one of those dudes with thr potential for 40 cases out there. And brag about every one of them
This is unironically better than 99% of consent education out there.
If the consent education they were pushing were capable of solving the problem then you wouldn't need to have consent educators to solve the problem they, as an ideological whole, chose to create.
*100% consent education
@@garybicknell2135 Tbh I think the issue is that generally we teach consent education from a fairly sanitized female perspective rather than with an understanding of what both men and women want and are trying to achieve.
@@ShnoogleMan this is liberalism right now as a hole. Gender studies but all genders except man. Always talk about patriarchy (only bad sides), never talking about matriarchy.
@@ShnoogleMan The core issue is that 80%+ of teachers are not men. Everything went downhill from there.
It's all so tiresome...
Only the strongest survive ✊😔
Don't worry, cizzy. Woman wish for the good ol' days too, when a bloody soldier would return from war, and it was on. She loved it because he just got through unaliving a bunch of actual men--nothing studlier--and he loved it because it meant giving her the gift of life.
MGTOW.
@@tarico4436 Tell that to all the soldiers whose wives slept with other men while they were deployed.
Its time to go to sleep.
Women on dating apps: No hookups! I am too old for playing games!
Translation: My life has been those things so far.
In my experience, women who say "I hate drama" literally LIVE for drama and will create it at the drop of a hat.
@@PantsofVance
And plausible deniability is: "We we talking and having a great time and the first thing you know we were in bed together."
Nailed it. What she said she didn't want, she has done plenty of times before with enthusiastic consent
"Im too old to be fun anymore"
Seriously. I don't seek hookups or whatever playing games is either (seriously what does that mean, I'm a girl but also autistic lol) but I wouldn't feel the need to include that. If a guy is going to pressure you for sex, no verbal warning will help.
About 12 years ago I had been dating this girl for a couple weeks. Very tame restaurant dates, nothing physical happening at that point. I invited her to be my date at a wedding, which involved a hotel stay. When we got in bed I put the moves on her, and she said "I don't want to have sex tonight". I said ok, gave her a peck on the lips, rolled away from her and went to sleep.
5 mins later she nudged me awake, and said (and I will never forget her exact words because this became a core memory) *"you have to be more forceful"*.
Didn't do it, and dumped her the next morning. Don't need that mind game stress in my life.
And later on she can go to the police/her internet simps/the next guy she's with and say ""I said no and he did it anyways""
Well, purity matters in the male scale. You're thinking about it 12 years later because she showed you a "dirty" mind but remained pure (at least towards you, physically).
You want to do dirty deeds with a pure woman, that's your own dilemma to reconcile.
She just wants to play house with an attractive man.
And you were damn right to do it. Let the casino play games with fools, not you.
I went home with a girl like that, she kept talking about men not giving her a choice when she was saying no and hinting she liked it. I was like oooook goodnight
@@monicaturiacdon't justify behaviour like this. If you are not aware of the problems caused by behaviour like this then think of the 'culture' you always go on about
I wanted him to disrespect me and attempt a lil' SA. Good joke, Lady.
As Louis CK once said, "I'm not gonna r_pe you on the off chance you're into that."
I just grab em by the puzzy
Women aren't funny on average. I'd say less than 1% are funny. And most of those women are not female comedians
Men are so gay bc they won’t risk prison time to be with me. Maybe I’m not pretty enough for someone to risk going to jail for. Just kidding.
It was pretty cool how this video just out of nowhere did a quick explanation of why 'female comedians' aren't funny.
"Why don't men approach us any more?"
You did it to yourselves, ladies.
Ladies are extinct.
"Ladies" is a farrrrrr stretch. These women arent ladies. Women who sleep with multiple guys a week arent ladies.
except this gives those few handsome looking high quality guys even more of an advantage, since they do approach. but they get more yes'es in both spoken and body language anyways so they don't get as many mixed signals. but if you are not on top of the food-chain - good fucking luck :)
@@dom8429 Ugly dogs do a lot of approaching too. Even celebrities get the 4D chess board thrown at them. There is no sexual hierarchy, there are good decisions and there are tragic ones; both are supposed to build character. If you pay close attention you can learn from others mistakes and develop RESOLVE.
@@dom8429 if you're not playing the game why do you care who's winning
Women play these games to avoid responsibility for their choices.
Exactly.
man: "why did you cheat on me?"
woman: "I don't know, it just kinda happened, and one thing led to another"
That's a Princess mentality when a man needs to climb a tower to get her. But she can change her mind on the fly since she didn't agree to it just gave you a hint that she wants it. Most likely you will get hurt.
immaturity sign
men should stay away from that type of behavior
@@PurpleSkies_ I believe you are right. Unfortunately I suspect sexual abuse (incest) is very often involved.
It's not fun because it's "not safe". For them it's absolutely safe. It's fun because it's cruel.
It's such a bs myth when people say "women are better comunicators". They might be more social (specially amongst themselves) but that doesnt mean being better at communicating.
They are mistaking expressing their "emotions" with actual communication. An infant is great at expressing emotions. Doesnt mean they are great at communicating. Dont play the game. 90% of the time when a man communicates it is just used against him as emotional blackmail later.
In general, most women are much worse communicators than most men. What women are actually good at is emotional support, which is not communication.
@@resignatorThey don't even express emotions well. They never directly explain what they're feeling. They always make some random tangential comment and expect you to decipher the "feeling" of it.
Yeah but when women talk to each other they get it like their telepathic so they are good communicators in the sense that they understand others well but then they try that sh** with us and it just doesn’t work lmao.
@@Etet777 lol no they do not get it, it's why after they get done talking they go back and talk to their other friends about how the other friend doesn't get her and how she misinterpreted what she was saying and how she's tryingto backstab her.
This level of deceit scares me.
It's aimless, chaotic, and will attack the innocent.
Worst it attacks order and thus the concepts of truth, justice, and innocent.
But remember guys we can't make laws punishing this because..... reasons.
@@Cpruett -- Thats a good one, bro.
"Order" covers all the bases.
It’s a way of getting power… men who understand female power are the safest of all.
They're smaller and weaker, they have to be treacherous. Can't hardly blame them, but you don't have to always believe them ether.
This is evolutionary and socializing on many forms. To complain about it is to reject reality. Learning and embracing your natural masculinity makes dealing with women so much easier
"But experienced, competent communicators will pick up on the signals and body language to know what I want. It's another layer of filtering."
It has the same vibe as "entry level position. 10+ years experience required."
Why bother what they say if you always have to observe and guess anyway? Functionally speaking, they are telling you to stop taking them seriously.
It's sort of true, the more women you're with, the more you can pick up on things. Two universal rules are:
1) The woman will ALWAYS ghost you at some point, so it's best to get as far sexually as you can as quickly as possible, if you're attracted to her.
2) ANY physical contact (holding hands/cuddling kissing) at any point in the date is an invitation for sex.
@@willshadthat’s not necessarily true. Physical touch can be rescinded by the seller at any point. It may plant a seed, but it isn’t conclusive or definitive
@@jamescheaye927 The way I see those situations is that sex is guaranteed unless I fuck up the escalation process - it's my game to lose.
Competent communicators for whom she is just another one-night girl
I'm glad you pointed out the female/feminine energy is considered chaos or the "darker" energy in ancient beliefs. It's honestly the most important philosophical knowledge that we have lost in the modern world. Finding this in my research of ancient beliefs, helped me understand and made total sense.
@@tlothompson6935 it also has to do with chaos has the power to change and create something new, which is symbolize as a women giving birth. Chaos is not a evil force, but dangerous without order. Just as order without chaos will become nothing.
So all in all the stereotype of women being better communicators is a HUGE crock of shit
Yes. And to spoil it for you, the stereotype of women being better at empathy/kindness/caring/cooking/hygiene is also a lie.
There's 6 things women do better than men on average and all of them have to do with their greater flexibility.
That's it.
Theyre even worse negotiators and team players.
Yessir!
Alexander Grace also touched on this recently.
a wise man once told me: 'Don't listen what women say, watch what they do' . I use this for everything, because nowadays it is needed.
the wise man in question: i saw a reel
Doesn't really help me because everything my wife does and says goes against our ability to work together and we are diametrically oppossed in pretty much all areas of thought.
@@smokingcrab2290why’d you marry a person that you disagree with so
Much?
@@mommasbigboy8656cuz hooters, probs.
This isnt even specific to women. Women will say something and do another, men *typically* will mean what they say, but due to other factors like ability and their competency their words and actions wont line up.
I'm autistic.
This is why I gave up on dating.
I get more support and acceptance from men than women even though they're supposed to be more empathetic and "emotionally mature".
They mistake emotional attunement with emotional maturity.
Basically they experience the world primarily through their emotions. I assume they feel uncomfortable because your autistic characteristics throws off their emotions, but it only throws off the thoughts of men so they can adapt more easily
Men are way more inclusive by nature. They are just going to let you know the truth. Women are more exclusive and passive aggressive. They have to seem peaceful while laying waste to other women
I like aspy chicks. They say what they're thinking.
I'm autistic too. Whenever I look at dating, it just looks all so tiresome. Interacting with people normally is already exhausting, this just sounds like extra work.
At this point I'm starting to suspect that the only way for an autistic person to make it in modern dating is to find a girl who is also on the spectrum. Although, mileage may vary
@@raven75257 it's certainly a lot easier talking with women who are higher in autism traits. They communicate straightforwardly.
Girl: "No means no, except when it means yes, but you have to read my mind, because I don't even know what I want."
Guy: "I'm outta here. Bye."
I had a girl tell me one time that the best way to avoid all this is to just be a hot guy.
BlackPill
@@speedythings7396the no hope pill
It is true, a hot guy to her would never get told that she would not do anything before she came over.
But he does not have to even be physically hotter than other men.
He "just" have to seduce her to want him before he invited her over.
She need to feel hot for him and to already want him before he asked.
@@PaperStCo just be confident bro
@@PaperStCo the gym
I'm tired, boss. Dog tired.
That's okay, remember, 50% of men throughout history didn't procreate. It's perfectly okay to be among them. But let's also not start gaslighting ourselves that it's unfair or some stuff, you needed this skill if you wanted to procreate. It's never going to get better, and they'll never stop being what they are. Walk away.
@@MrMrtvozornik I appreciate the words, although I have already procreated. :D but no longer with the mom
@@MrMrtvozornikso basically, run for the hills
@@MrMrtvozornik Walk away to do what exactly? A loser in solitude is still a loser.
@WideMouth it's also better to be alone than to be with someone who makes you feel alone.
Guy was trying to avoid SA charges.
He was, but he kinda messed up by still taking her to his place even though she said she wouldn't sleep with him. If you make your home the boundary line between something non-sexual and sexual, you can control it better. He then just 'cuddled' with her and didn't make any more moves even though he wanted to, which turned her off. Basically, he entered the arena of the dangerous game even though he could have avoided it altogether
remmeber, if you don't try to SA women you're GAY
@@PantsofVance Yes. He was probably hoping she would change her mind and say so. But if she can changed her mind once she can change it back again later.
if that's what he was trying to do, then he was doing it in the worst way possible.
It's like trying to avoid getting reipd in prison by picking up the soap
@@geobloxmodels1186I have actually seen a story or two about a woman claiming she was r***ed because regretted the sex after she had already consented to it, of course this was the next day she regretted it, it’s not like halfway through she changed her mind.
1:18 Exactly what "Baby It's Cold Outside" was about...
Plausible Deniability so that you can play the fence. And women keep saying they're the ones that are better at communicating...
They're better at covert communication, and terrible at overt communication.
@@miltonbates6425 And experts at not actually getting what they want. Luckily for them theres always plan b, c, d, e...
@@miltonbates6425100% good at covert communication but 0% good at overt communication still averages out to 50%. Which is a failing grade. The goal is to be 100% good at both modes of communication. They’re still terrible at communication, in general, from that perspective
It's not about communication, it's about control.
Maybe they communicate better with grizzly bears 🐻😂🤣😆😆🤣😆😂😆🤣😂😂
Women: "Teach men to be better!"
403_math: "OK, here you go".
Women: "Incel!!!"
"stop teaching them how to avoid dumb games"
"403_math" is brilliant. Forbidden knowledge!
Go figure…. the half of humans who want life to “happen” to them also refuse any accountability for their outcomes. That is why they have to disregard men who improve - it wreaks of fakery to them because that’s the only way improvement manifests for themselves.
304 would also work
Here's a challenge for women (and whiteknight men as well); whenever a male is critical of women in any way DONT call them a incel or say they're "misogynistic"
*difficulty: impossible*
64 year man. Dump any woman that plays games. Move on. Don't ever tolerate BS from any women.
They all play games dude...
@@madmax43v3r Not all. OG is right, if she plays games dump her immediately and find someone else until you find one that is not playing games.
@madmax43v3r Live without a woman. So easy, so simple, so good.
Too many men hitting women for pleasure instead of instruction.
Finally. Some sense. No is no. Walk away. Quit thinking about it. If they never learn then you're encouraging it. If another guy gets it. Let it go it was never meant to be. No means walk away. So easy but guys want to chase. Into a court case. Go ahead do the same thing that gets other into trouble. Don't learn from others and your personal mistakes. No Means Walk Away.
This is stuff I thought all my life i could just never articulate it.. Thank you so much for helping us men as a culture rise back up
“We live in a unholy sex tornado” thank you I’m stealing that quote 😂
credit me I WILL SUE
@hoe_math good luck! Others have tried and failed!
Great video as always 👍
LOL. Good thread.
@@hoe_math wait.. do you really mean that? or are you flirting?
i had a pretty good laugh when he said that....good stuff
I'm starting to feel sorry for the bears.
THERE'S that bear comment that springs up EVERYWHERE now! 😆 And I am for it.
@@kaptainwarp We must never forget how they think of us.
@@AkiRa22084 Indeed. I purchased a bear hat to remind myself of it.
Sad part is that we have no way of warning the 🐻 about the mess that’s coming their way. On the other hand….female bears are not going to tolerate human females making a dumpster fire of the male / female bear dynamic like they have done to their own kind 🤣
@@AkiRa22084with ketchup?
The funniest part of the "joke" that inspired this is that odds are the guy was genuinely happy with cuddling all night. Like, maybe he didn't even feel like having sex and didn't need to restrain himself. Maybe he was just thinking "this is nice", while the girl was losing 4D chess against herself
Yeah, even when I want sex, cuddling is still pretty awesome when the chemistry is decent.
She didn't want to be pressured into sex, even though she wanted it. If she didn't want it she never would have went home with the guy. So when the guy didn't push for it, she got turned on because for some reason if you ever initiate it with a woman she will say no, even if she wants it. But if you don't initiate, it will drive her nuts. It's all a game they play.
My wife yells me "i need nonsexual affection" yet when we first met she ripped my clothes off on the 2nd date and she didn't even know me. It all depends on a girls fickle state of mind.
And she could still be mad enough at your not trying anything and then say she was SAd. Even years later. Women are a mess
What man wants to cuddle?
@@AfriqueNY believe it or not, some men crave non-sexual human touch and closeness
I’m happily married with two boys but I hope they discover this channel in the future 😂
I heard recently about a feminist who gave her husband a big lecture on "explicit consent". As a result, she now has to literally beg him for sex. 😅
W
Marriage is dead, he just hasn't figured it out yet.
kek, based. Hope he's getting it elsewhere!
A feminist doesn’t deserve a monogamous marriage
I'll never understand the appeal behind cheating culture.
"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
- Joshua in Wargames 1983
Isn't it the WOPR that says this though?
@@ryanb9873 the AI running on WOPR was unofficially named Joshua by it's creator after his son.
Technically WOPR is what had the voice synthesizer... so WOPR "said" it. Yes, I'm being petty.
17 minutes. Time to study some hoegebra!
Next period I got howganomica🤓
Time to study the hoedratic formula in order to conceptualize her mood
I’m already in my Hoelogy 303 class
Mindgame Theory xD
The Hoeriodic table of Hoelements.
Turns out, the only winning move is not to play.
It's like cats presenting their belly. Maybe they want bellyrubs, maybe they'll rend your hands to shreds. Don't play that silly game.
but with cats, the consequences are never that severe. i might bleed profusely, but then i know my cat enjoyed the game of trick/hunt and kill.
@@pauldwalkerYes. A cat doesn't send you to jail for petting assault.
And when a dog does it, they always just want rubs. Dogs > Cats
Why do cute tiny kittens have retractable nails?
Clawsible deniability.
@@PantsofVancestinky gringo furry take
Women are such great communicators.
@@vegbeg9170 So good that men can't even do the mind reading they take for granted.
☕️
@@mr.mayhem7402 women believe they can mind read each other, but they actually can’t. That’s why women are always getting into drama with each other; a lot of it could be avoided if women just said what they mean instead of pretending they can read minds. And because women believe they can read minds, they get annoyed with men because they also can’t read minds.
Women are literally the worst communicators. And even worse negotiators.
the best
It is a very useful tactic to make sure to not have to take accountability for anything that happens
EXACTLY
Plausible deniability
So you know how is some Muslim legal systems the word of a woman is worth half that of a man? Well...
@@Marcara081Islam is right about women, what a surprise
- Didn't do anything and I liked it: He is so nice!
- Didn't do anything and didn't like it suddenly: A gay weak loser!
- Did as I wanted and I liked it: So hot!
- Did as I wanted and I didn't like it suddenly: I got SAd for no reason :(
This is why when I hear women mature, faster than men; The only thing I think of is, that they have a lower maturity ceiling.
@@bboye.musical9349 this is actually true, most women hit peak maturity by 14 years old which is why they act like teenagers for the rest of their lives.
I'm tired, boss.
Dog tired
It’s gon be freezin my 🥷
when in doubt, always go to sleep
He must be from New York City
@@knightlight5497All NYC residents are insomniacs, everyone knows this.
This is the classic "Empowered Victim".
Men should flee from these types.
She can always say she said "No"-
If she ever gets mad at you.
Total control over your life. And then they say men are obsessed with control.
Putting it in simple terms: if they're mature adults they will speak clearly and say what they mean and mean what they say. If they're immature and still have the mental process of a child they will be vague because they don't want to take responsibility for what they say. Dating is for adults. If they show to be vague, in other words immature, then they shouldn't be dating. Just leave them and walk away.
There's a reason there's no female equivalent to "man-children".
exactly...they want to stay children and not have the responsibility commitment requires...and we know because we can see it with those who are actually successfully married but nah...we'd rather follow the Friends TV show or Cardi B methods...
But then how do you know if they’re speaking their thoughts or just playing?
@@rickroller420agm only placed it in simple terms, so i don't know
I'd actually disagree with you. Children have better thought processes.
Children are the most brutally honest people you will spend time with.
They're the ones that'll tell you that the color green you're wearing looks a smidge too much like poop or that your voice sounds funny or that you have a big nose or something.
Children are born better than that.
Women obscure their thoughts not in some child-like attempt, but because their entire framework for understanding men relies on Romance movies, Romance novels and Fairy Tales. In those, the men do act like mind readers and know the best action to woo the female lead.
These women are like men who expect a woman to orgasm after rubbing the general area for 30s because they saw that on porn. Women have that level of delusional training for romance.
It may be immaturity, but it's not childishness. You sell kids short on that one.
Though, I don't seek to criticize without something to help. Best top for dealing with a partner who acts like all of that and plays games is to ask her what her favorite romance novels are. Most women have a few.
Read them. Study them. They're your cheat codes. Because will find 2-3 books/series that they will base their entire romantic impressions on.
I got a partner who CAN be direct about it but she's often more easily in the mood when she's not forced to be direct. Hence the whole excitement thing mentioned in the video.
I don't really ever need her to be direct anymore because I just ask myself what the male lead would do in that book if I ever find myself debating the signals then... Bam. 10 minutes later she's practically reaching for my belt and I have to spend the next few hours trying to avoid having my grapes turn into raisins.
Yes, if women really want to be treated as equals and to not be infantilized, they have to start behaving like adults, and that means learning how to use verbal communication (among other things, like taking responsibility for their actions).
I think they do this for plausible deniability.
Similar to when they say “I was just joking”, after they realized what they said had a negative response.
Every instance. Every topic. All the time.
“What are you gay?” No but I don’t wanna be sent somewhere where I’m forced to be.
Never take a girl like that home. She will either have you arrested the next day for sexual abuse or key your car because you ignored her. The only way to win is don't play the game.
Yup. I get crazy vibes from her. Like the super happy girl who goes home and cries or rages alone.
I've been with hundreds of women, and have NEVER been in a situation where either of those has happened. Not even close. 99% of the time, they ghost you soon after, whether you have sex, or not have sex, whether is goes well or doesn't go well. If you're attracted to her, then it's ALWAYS best to try to go as far sexually as you can as soon as possible. Take it to the point where she physically pulls away or stops you; you'd be surprised how many women don't do that simply because it would embarrassing, or they may get caught up in the moment. Always assume you'll never see or hear from her again, and get the most you can out of the experience.
@@willshad Hats off to ya. How many kids do you have?
@@willshadyeah I agree that’s usually how it works
@@pete5691 I dont have any kids.
TL;DR.
Don't play a losing game. A NO is a NO, don't gamble your life and reputation on women that play games and don't accept your advances.
Also for the few women that find their way here - if you ever think "why doesn't he get the hint" immediately stop hinting or the body language and communicate what you want.
Based on hoe_math's viewership, so far only ~2,250 women have seen this video
As a women, I would say, don't go back to a guy's house unless your expecting to sleep with him
There, problem solved.
@@bluebutterfly5062 it would be great if every girl was sensible like that and we had clear easy rules that everyone understood. As a woman, you can say something like this. If a guy says it though, then it’s victim blaming and “patriarchy bad.” When I was younger, I would have assumed if she was in my bed that meant she wanted me to try but it only takes one scary moment in your life to change your perspective on these things forever.
Bro for the 5000 times stop trying to educate women.
Think why you're doing that?
It's literally you trying to hold on to some kind of unicorn NAWALT blue pill fantasy even if you're not consciously aware of it.
They don't care they don't analyze their behavior, they don't do introspection. And they're not going to appreciate you and you're not going to find the one that you can train or whatever your fantasy is
I'm not trying to say this in a dick way, but you got to let go
@@1TightMinute yeah it's the same thing as a girl telling you vs another guy telling you "hey you need to work on your finances, it's not a good look"
One is taken as advice, the other is taken as cristism
But you are right to assume if she's in your bed, she prob wants it. Not sure why women think otherwise 🤔
A no is a no. Always. You might end up in jail. Girls who play these mind games should be ghosted. Way too dangerous.
Yep. I don't care about what noises she makes. If she says stop, I'm zipping up and running out of the door.
unless you have a recording a yes isn't any better
You can end up in jail no matter what you do. If she gets angry at you because you took the no at face value and didn’t make a move, she can still accuse you of SA and destroy your life
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 That's right. She can make up stupid shit. Going your own way is best I'd say.
All women play these games or different ones like them. The problem here isnt women but thinking treating women legally as if they are men magically makes it so. Womens lib was a mistake. And so is fornication.
My trick has just been to remember that every "no" is a no, and so are most yeses. She doesn't want you, she wants something she thinks she can _get_ from you and she'll move on once she no longer can. Approaching things this way means you've got a 90% chance of not having your life ruined for guessing wrong.
@@AJadedLizard yep there is a whole subreddit on how saying no but t changing it to yes later is still rape. The basic gist of the whole thread is you told him no but then he seduced you so it’s not your fault and it’s just as bad as someone jumping out of the bushes. It actually holds up in court. If you admit she told you “no” clearly and you understood it and then you chose to continue to try and doesn’t matter how she responds after that. You are guilty. When they say no. It’s a no. Game over. Move on. It’s funny. You tell women this and they still want you to try and you are gay if you don’t. Totally oblivious.
@@1TightMinute What you wrote. 10/10. Will read again.
Edit: Still great after a second read. You want "gist" not "jest." Still 10/10.
@@1TightMinute I knew a girl a few years ago who was constantly complaining about her ex. Huge age gap, 18 and 24. Didn't have a car, didn't live in the same city, one of them was constantly putting in all the effort to be together. When she finally broke up with him, she made him out to be some sort of predator who coerced her into dating him. Trouble is, she was six years older than him (he was 18, and she was 24), and she was the one constantly going to him because he didn't have a car. 100% of the choices leading to this relationship were hers, she had _all_ the agency, and yet when _she_ ended it she still made herself out to be the victim. It's an absolutely insane level of delusion.
Excellent comment!
@@1TightMinutewe had a lot of SA education in the navy. Boot camp kinda opened my mind to what should be expected. The best line I’ve ever heard:
“Raise your hand if you’ve ever proceeded to try to make a move on a girl after they’ve already said no.”
Everybody in the room raised their hand. It was about 150 dudes.
“You are all guilty of *ap*.”
It made me stop and think about it for real. That was in 2005.
Had this problem with my gf.
Told her I’m not doing high school BS.
Now, she tells me straight.
@@mattwatson7510 W
We used to have fathers to teach their boys how to trust your gut feeling... now single mothers who married the state have left our boys gutless.
so true for men and women, with no good fathers , women are left clueless as well
We also had fathers who told their daughters not to go to strange men's houses. But alas, women can do WHATEVER they want without consequence. I said before, where I live, if a woman did this, there's zero case for her to claim SA after the fact: "You went to sleep in a man's bed? What the hell you think was going to happen?"
How ridiculous is it, that she could have stripped naked, started playing with herself on his bed, in front of him, but say "no, you can't do anything" and that's the end of that, because the law only considers the man as having agency over his actions.
Gutless huh? So you agree with this woman then? Smh
I especially liked the part where the conclusion of the problem of females playing games and failing to communicate is once again the responsibility of the man to adjust to. Bravo!
Expecting (most) women to take responsibility for anything ever is delusional.
It was a terrible mistake to let them hold office, vote, or own property for this exact reason.
Exceptions can be made for exceptional women.
@@GimliofGarden I agree. I don't like that I have to agree on those points, but I do agree. This is not the perfect world of equality that many think it is.
It is our responsibility bro. It sucks, but life sucks. Women aren’t men, we can’t expect the same level of propriety and respect that we expect from ourselves. We leave the titanic last man, it’s just the reality of the situation. No hate towards them, I still think girls are awesome. But is my girl going to help me with my problems or have that special kind of self awareness and self control that only men seem to exhibit? No I don’t expect that from her.
“Her problems are my problems, and my problems are my problems”.
@@bobhope707 You deserve what you tolerate.
@zeroneutral "you deserve what you tolerate"
No, it's called responsibility. How do you not get that after just having it explained to you?
Lmao what's with the female mindset, single mother raised?
Guess how this game ends up when she runs into a sociopath.
They end up having kids together before he ends up going to prison for something else. I've seen that situation play out a few times....
Chance is too small.
She IS the sociopath.
The mirror?
She's going to be addicted to him.
My only daughter went off to college two months ago. I'm passing this on to her. Keep the lines of communication open. Guys don't like games.
I’ve noticed myself and friends not approaching women. Even with ostensible signs. Last time I attempted - I got prolonged eye contact, and a warm smile from her. I approached simply to have a friendly conversation. She reacted as if I was being a creep. It turned me off. She came off as extremely vein and self consumed
Yup, dissimulation is another tactic they mastered. Just avoid all together at this point.
This is the problem for me. I can get a women to give me a chance but I'd honestly rather fuck a cactus then do all the work.
No wonder we're facing demographic collapse.
You say that like it's a bad thing
yes, female hypergamy was deliberately weaponized.
Only in the white western society, because black people and Muslims keep pumping out babies at a fast peace, replacing little by little the native population of the countries they emigrate to.
@@SausageAttack23 It is when you need to pay more and more to make up for fewer young people supporting older generations.
@@SausageAttack23It is, a big one.
Mostly because it's an excuse to import millions of randos that will make and have made our countries un s a f e
If the system never punishes me for breaking the rules, why would I care for them? Of course, it's more fun if there are no consequences.
They manipulate every interaction so that they can hide behind claims of plausible deniability when things don't go exactly how they want them to go.
Until there are
@@deyhatejujo They never really face consequences of their behavior, society protects them and will give them a slap on the wrist for all but the most egregious of offenses.
@@miltonbates6425 like lying about sa. almost none of them face any consequences for their lies when the guy is proven to be innocent after their lives are ruined.
seen the rational male posts covering fem teacher on boy student gwape epidemic? minuscule societal awareness nor whistle-blowing nor p3do charges brought. truly an amazing time we live in...
This is one of the main reasons I'm over 50 and single. Thank the Lord, I always chose the "go home" option. Make sure the exit is near, in case the signs are unclear.
Plausible deniability to maintain the outward look of chastity
If I had to choose between prison or being called gay, it's being called gay
And that's not a bad thing when 89% of the population is gay anyway.
The funny thing is, going to jail would largely increase your chance for same-sex intercourse.^^
What about a gay prison
Ironically, if you go to prison, you will be forcefully gay. Especially if you are in for SA.
And in 2024 being called gay can get you a promotion at work.
Moral of the story. None of them are keepers. They're all unimaginably insane
@@jvillain9946 just gotta find one you're happy to put up with.
@@LRas19 why would I be happy to put up with any of it
Yeah, it do be like that. Kinda like the top percent of men are few and far between. The same goes for women, the 'decent person' ones are near nonexistent. 🤔
(Decent women do exist, the way you can tell. Is what girls do the majority of women hate/exclude from the tribe?)
They despise tomboys -funnily enough even a lot of conservatives despise them too-
They despise capable, hard working southern women
They despise "pick mes"
Observing what they hate, gives better insight into who they are deep down.
@@jvillain9946because literally everything in life is a compromise, and being unable or unwilling to compromise actually makes YOU the weak entitled one.
@@Francisco-Danconiacompromise is funny, at the same time you must give to receive but must "compromise yourself to do so"
I learned a long time ago how to navigate this particular issue: Women don't say what they want, so pay attention to what they actually respond positively to.
And just don't play games. If she's clearly flirting with you, but denies that she is take her at her word, turn around and walk away. She might even try to stop you, and that's your opportunity to end the games and just talk like people.
It's become incredibly easy to tell which women are low value just by their looks and how their voice sounds
Every woman who starts a sentence with "Ummm, like...." is automatically disqualified in my book.
Every women who brags about her dating life online is not worth approaching.
even by the look on her eyes you can see if they are a promiscuous woman or not. It's a very nice trick to know if you want less drama in your life.
"When women say things that don't match what they want..."
You mean 100% of the time?
Tip for women. You want men to do things for you and to you, so you can be receptive and feminine. Be honest early, be willing to put in the work to benefit later.
When you husband or long term boyfriend gets good data, he will be able to anticipate what you want, but a guy you just met can't.
See the yin/yang symbol? There is a little dot of order in chaos, and a little dot of chaos in order. You can't ignore that part.
They will only play the games with the average man. They will break their own rules and basically hump the Chad to get his attention.
Exactly, I cut it short with “I like deliberate women”. She not being clear means she is not sure herself of what she wants and she wants you to take the responsibility of her (and you at that point) finding out. She leads with her emotions.
She says "yes". Her body language says "yes". Great!
Tomorrow she accusess you of SA. Go to jail, life ruined, do not collect $200. Was it worth it?
She says yes, her body language says yes, AND YOU HAVE IT ALL ON VIDEO, you and three other people, two pairs of two, all four very willing and consenting, all over the age of 21, and you're the quarterback of the Florida State Seminoles, and yet after all that video proof to the contrary, you still face drape charges, of course are found innocent, but you still have to pay her more money than I've earned in the last 20 years combined. Jameis Winston, still in the NFL, but his wallet is lighter.
@@tarico4436look at Trevor Bauer, said yes, signaled yes, begged yes, SA charges…twice….later vindicated and banned from MLB still.
"Strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
My ex-spouse took 10 years to go through this process. Same result; lives put through hell.
Learn, gentlemen, learn early.
@@wingnut71
If she says no, ten years later you must act like it is still a no no matter what she says.
Whenever they say things like "I might be the problem" or "Tell me if I'm wrong", they never think they're the problem and never think they're wrong.
It's false humility.
@@TopJazzCat ---- that's because women are never or very rarely held accountable for making bad decisions or bad choices. They don't have to and don't want to take responsibility when things don't go the way she wants it to.
Women, never want to be perceived as a hoe even when they are a hoe. They know it, you know it, but God help you if you point it out to her or make her feel like a hoe unless that's her thing when you get her in bed or a closet, or bathroom, elevator, tied up to a saw horse, etc...
its a joke tho. the guy is right when he says that jokes are grounded in reality, but its heavily exaggerated for more engagement and a better story. the thought she had was probably closer to "why do i kinda want him to have sex with me im such a bad person lol" than "im angry that he didnt have sex with me" like she portrays it in the story
@@TopJazzCat --- you can also keep this in mind...
Women like to pretend that "they aren't that type of girl" when they actially are.
So they will make a guy wait for sex but still let him take her out and put in the effort playing that she is a good girl, while he buys her dinners and flowers etc... for weeks and sometimes dudes will wait months.
But all the while during that game she's getting run through by some Chad and Tyrone who give her the late night booty call and never take her out on a date, never meet her in public, never spend a dime on her and she's just hiving it up for free and no effort on those dude's part a couple times a week. While the other dude is having to pay in multiple ways and get nothing because she says she really likes him and doesn't want him to think she's a hoe.
Women are so screwed up in the head.
Yeah theyre just fishing for validation from other women
@@1c0nic_playernah it wasnt. You clearly missed the point in the video where he said the "joke" isnt that she is exaggerating or making up stuff, the joke is that she isnt supposed to say it out loud. What makes this a joke to her is that shes speaking truth that women arent supposed to say out loud. Thats what makes it a joke.
No means no, except for when it means “yes, if you’re not a bitch.”
Yes means yes, except for when it means “no, but I was scared.”
Chaos.
The simplest way to deal with this crap is not to deal with it. If a woman says no, just walk away
This is why men prefer video games to playing games with women. There are clear cut rules. If you lose a video game, that's the worst thing that could happen. If you lose the game played with a woman that smoking gun could turn your life into a mushroom cloud. If you don't know, it's time to go.
Brother is cooking‼️🤣👍🏾
and the survey said.... 90+% of men preferred the PlayStation over a girlfriend.
"Unholy sex tornado" is the best description of this mess I've ever heard 😂
I don't know; for me, it seems like all tornado and no sex.
Women's games cannot survive without the assumption that Men desperately cannot live without them.
As long as they get tons of messages/attention of social media and dating apps, that's always a safe assumption to make.
A very small percent of men are extremely persistent in providing these women with the attention they seek (but complain about). The vast majority of men are not to blame.
funny how the men they really want not only "can" but most of the time "want" to live without a woman that's why they pick and chose and have a different one every day or so
New to the Hoe Math breakdown, have you done a breakdown outside of the Matrix dynamic in the USA🤔 the comparisons of American women and others would be huge discovery! Thanks for content, hilarious yet very on point.
Schrödinger's prison sentence
Men are not minds readers. Say what you mean and mean what you say.
But then women have to accept some accountability which will never fucking happen.
"No, that's too boring! You are my entertainment, clown!"
Expecting accountability from women is like something something something
We found the dreamer.
But then that's BOOOORING!!
I've always wondered how women can consider themselves the better communicators. When they rarely say what they mean. Or mean what they say.
Because it's deliberate. They know how to communicate. They prefer to play games
@@michaelmaniloff9297so far no one has proved this theory wrong, so i guess this is slso a theory too
@pylotheric9777 They are calculated. They play games when it's convenien for them. This isn't a theory as much as its years of experience.
Their version of communication is basically just living in a world of ambiguous vibes and carefully constructed unwritten expectations
It's marketing. They want to have something to have as their strength. It's not logic, strength, speed, loyalty, intelligence, artistry or any of a hundred other virtues. So they repeat that they're great communicators. 🙄
16:45 indeed, that (again) was a truly satisfyingly convincing argument to follow up on. both intellectually and in design-thinking-wise presentation. thanks.
I've struck out many times because I treated the fake "no" like a real no, and I regret nothing.
Better safe, than sex offender.
Outside the US, if she agrees to get near a bed with you she's down, simple as that.
The 'sex offender' thing is overblown IMO. The worst that will happen is that she pulls away or stops you. if you continue AFTER that, then you're looking for trouble. No court in the world is going to convict you for attempting a kiss on a woman that you're hanging out with at your place, or even for attempting to touch her breast. She would be laughed out of court.
@@willshad "She would be laughed out of court"
Not in the West bro.
@@StarboyXL9 lol yeah I can imagine having to hire a lawyer because I tried kissing my date goodnight.
@@willshadin California, drunk sex is classified as r@pe
Yeah. In older societies a woman’s mate was chosen for her. I am beginning to understand why that was.
Right ? And it is not even that far , I live in Europe and that how my grand parents met
Grandfather was working as a carpenter for her father who was a farmer building a barn. They chit chat , he says he is alone.
"Hey my daughter is 19 and she is single , you seem to be a good guy and you are 22 , you want to come to dinner tomorrow ?"
Dinner went well , she went for it and ta-da , 1 year latter married. 2 years latter my father was born.
My grand parents are now past 70 , have 50 years of solid mariage , 4 kids , 10 grand kids , but no grand grand kids because all my cousins are guys and are evolving in that shitty dating landscape. Only my little brother who is the tallest and the most handsome of all our cousins has a girlfriend. On 10 guys. And we are talking about serious working men not basement dwellers or pot addicts.
All in the same situation , I'm the oldest of my cousins , I'm the first son of the first son of the first son of the first son etc etc , I'm 30 and it doesn't seem like I will have kids one day.
Quite sad. But at least women can have hook ups and be empowered so it is maybe worth it.
They scream "daddy" remembering the only person capable of selecting for her.
Patriarchy was better.
More choice is always better
@@Timmy-mi2ef Nope it is not. It creates indecision and also entitlement
In todays corporate environment being called gay might actually be a benefit.
It literally explicitly is. You will be given preferential treatment in hiring/firing/and benefits. Your DEI checkboxes literally determine your social credit score in this new society.
Yup. I accuse women of being homophobic if they do that to me. I subtly suggest that if their workplace found out that wouldn't be good. I force them to apologise for me. I tell them how it would make them feel if I accused them of being a lesbian. They don't like turnabout, but it is fair and equal, and that's what women say they want. Don't like it? Say what you want then.
I love how you speak as though you're talking to children when you explain how inscrutable female "logic" is. Cracks me up every time.
As a man you DO NOT have to learn in this case. The "male" way of communicating is objectively the correct way. Learning to understand females and their visual clues means making mistakes along the way. Thats what learning is. If I make a mistake, my life could be over in different ways. The effort and risk of men trying to learn to understand female communication compared to females learning how to communicate correctly with men is way higher. The easiest way is to ignore these types of women, not to interact with them and let them suffer under their own incompetence.
Also a very good tip, always record or let someone else record/film the consent that was given. This will not always help, but it can be effective as a way to make her not lie about the consent that was given and might help you out in proving your point
How do you guys even deal with American women? Jeezuz. Saying the juice isn't worth the squeeze is an understatement, since at best all you get is some putrid vinegar-like substance anyway.
You say 'these types of women' as if there are directly clear women. Where do you find them?
Every true problem I've ever had in a relationship was due to taking what a woman said at face value. Consequently a lot of "positive" outcomes I've also had were from them rewarding toxic behaviour in myself. Which I was then disgusted by afterwards. I've basically given up on the idea of finding something authentic.
It's really a trip when appaling behavior gets you "positive" outcomes as opposed to good/decent behavior. Makes you question everything you thought you knew.
My whole life I never felt more unease when with a woman who says no, she says she's not interested, but acting like she's down & ready. I've only had that happen to me twice and I've gone home both times. I've always felt like I've dodged some cannon balls in both instances.
She's just being a cocktease to control you. It's her form of putting you on a leash.
You can deal with it by just challenging her verbally. "I don't like youi" ... "so why are you still here? you obviously do". push it until she drops the game or leaves, no trouble had at all
If they got angry that you left they could still accuse you of SA and destroy your life
@@supremelordoftheuniverse5449 Lol. They can try.
Being called gay for not wanting to go to jail for some random hookup is the wildest thing I've heard in my life.
...this got confusing. Basically... if she games DON'T STAY - run away!
Yes that's the whole point of the video. And this also applies in many other aspects of life. Life is like a buffet, you're often the one that picks the food you get to eat.
@@j.a.osorio2005 Most men don't have a 'buffet' of attractive women to choose from. it's easy to say 'just walk away' when you're not in that situation, alone with an attractive woman that you've already invested time and money into. If I'm attracted to her, then I'm going to go as far sexually as I can, up to the point where she's physically pushing me away. Men are expected to be the aggressive ones here.
I HATE when people bring up exceptions as if it makes the majority simply dissapear
They don't want to have a conversation, they just wanna feel like they "won"
Emphasis on the word "FEEL"
Exception only confirms the rule
@@osama_bin_mladen Exceptions show the rule is flawed and a better model is needed
@@Asto508 That’s the point with social interactions between modern men and women. If majority of population shows the same traits, those that exhibit otherwise are exception to the rule. Same goes for voting, majority confirms the rule, those that are against it are exceptions.
@@osama_bin_mladen If you cannot quantify the exceptions (which I guess you can't), you don't know if your rule is simply garbage.
Defining it by a simple majority (>= 50%), it means worst case your rule doesn't apply to 49,999999999% of the population which means you are at the level of tossing a coin.
Exceptions should be seen as the defining indicator to check if your model holds any water and nothing to be "mad" about or accept as given. If your model is correct, there are no exceptions.
If I ever feel lonely, I only have to see stuff like this to make me feel great about it.