Lebron wins in statistics? Did you listen to the video? Further more go look up Jordan playing point for the bulls he nearly averaged a triple double when he focused on engaging the offense. Lebron is just an over grown child compared to Michael
Naw…he is your typical brainwashed young person. You can show them facts, stats, even video evidence and they will deny/ignore it because it goes against their pre-conceived view. Look up “cognitive dissonance”…that is this dude in a nutshell.
It's interesting how you say "LeBron beat the 73-9 Warriors" instead of "LeBron's TEAM beat the Warriors" while emphasizing "It's Jordan's TEAM that won 72-10" instead of saying "It's Jordan that won 72-10". Your bias is painfully obvious and I find it hilarious.
I'm not a big fan of this LeBron fan at all. In his previous videos, he disagrees with everything because MJ is ahead of LeBron in almost all important categories. Sorry to be the one to tell you, Michael is about 25 times better than LeBron. There may be a hurdle in the way of (whatever this guys username is) LeBron's lackluster play and it's - MJ>LBJ
I knew before watching this video for the first time Jordan is the goat because I watched them both play. I never laughed at something Jordan did because he was a beast. I laugh at leflop too much like wtf you doing bro
@@mikegeorge3668also, unlike lebum, mj never made any excuses for his losses. The only time or season probably that lebum didn't have an excuse for losing was when he wasn't even present
so many instances in this video where this child showed how little he actually knows. and the copium, wow. it was hard to watch at times, but it was also funny seeing him getting crushed by reality.
The most crazy part is that He admitted he doesn’t even know much about Jordan’s career! So he’s just blindly sayin Lebron’s the goat! It’s pretty obvious that Lebron’s his favorite player so he feels like he has to call him the goat but u can have a favorite player without them being the goat!
@@DMitch-ny3jb he also said people are bias emotionally to their favorite player and that's why jordan fans are the way they are... and then 15 seconds later, he says I need to go see a Lebron compilation! He just exposed himself in contradiction for being emotionally biased for Lebron lol. Really smart for his age ain't he. He needs some time grow and explore more. Many great players out there beside Lebron man. Can't be kept in one pond.
Jordan never developed anything? Really? He was an athletic high-flying highlight reel early on in his career. People started calling him a ball-hog. He became defensive player of the year. People said, "But he couldn't win a ring!" Won 3 straight championships WITHOUT a team of at least 3 superstars. His father, who supported him throughout his career, got murdered. He retired. Bulls couldn't win a ring without him, despite his co-star Pippen's best efforts. Team was starting to fall apart before he came back and won 3 straight championships. As his athleticism faded, he turned into a technical player who clamped down on his opponents on defense and played mind games and shot smooth fade-aways on offense. When he entered the league, fans, coaches and players alike called him phenomenal. When he left, people called him the GOAT.
Jordan created a dynasty or you could say 2 dynasties that won 3 championships in a row separated 2 years apart. Now what did LeBron create? Nothing but bad free throw stats.
@@electric8668 Hey now. I never said LeBron had nothing to add to his legacy. I refuse to disrespect his effort and achievements over a long stellar career. My point, however, is that MJ is the GOAT. His Airness has the career, achievements and trophies to showcase why he is on a different level compared to other greats like LeBron, Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Duncan, Wilt and Russell.
The amount of ignorance and denial when presented clear evidence... It's great to love LeBron and have him as your favorite player. However, it's NOT a good thing to turn a blind eye on the truth for the sake of emotions. A lot of people are reasonable enough to admit that their favorite player isn't the GOAT, and they still support their favorites through thick and thin. Logic and reason shouldn't be left out of conversations for the sake of emotions.
I really love watching l3bron fans react to this video. Not to see them change their mind, but see them frustratingly, blindly dispute the analogy of the creator. Epic. 😂
I love that fact he says "I'm passing to my small forward and not my shooting guard" and that he is breaking boundaries. Apparently, Larry Bird is completely forgotten about in this context. 🙄
The Warriors winning 73 games and losing in the finals only proves that the Warriors wore themselves out chasing that regular season record for nothing. By the time they reached the finals, they were running on fumes, whereas Jordan's 72-win Bulls won the regular season record and STILL won it all in the end.
"This is where he gets personal"... dude you were taking it personally the whole video. And DangerP still brought the analysis and unbiased reasons why the eye test goes to Jordan. LeBron is phenomenal, absolutely dominant and should be celebrated. But anyone who really watched both careers will tell you that Jordan is the goat. Even NBA players who played with both will say the same.
this dude just said if Bron had more mvps or finals mvps we'd say its cuz he played more seasons... the FACT that he DOESN'T have more mvps, yet he DID play more seasons speaks volumes.. MJ did MORE in LESS time..
and that is what it boils down to, mj did more in less time, more accomplishments in less time. i mean sure lebron got the record for total coring over kaream. but like the old adage goes. if i punch a wall enough times, i can eventually break through it, not to mention lebron came into the nba right out of high school when he was 19, jordan didn't start until he was 21.
Coping and Excuses. He never said it that making it to the finals mattered. He was saying even if I grant you that it does, he made it there because the competition was weak. Maybe you need some hearing aids and not just glasses.
When I first started watching this video it was pretty funny. But then by the end of it got really sad. these LeBron fans lose their mind when you put facts in their face and they can't take it is embarrassing
I have seen so many die-hard LeBron fans wilt under the harsh light of true facts. It's predictable. The best arguments are sympathy arguments, not real, hard core facts.
😂 Im a lebron fan. But im open minded.. The 1st time i saw mj play, is in the finals against barkley. And then watched his other finals. I've always want the bulls to loose.. But man,. im a lebron fan. But MJ is the goat. That is obviously FACTS.
Also you said at the end the Lebron haters don’t watch the nba now and to appreciate him you have to watch him. Great point I agree. Have you followed your own advice here? How many full Jordan games have you watched? Regular season and especially playoffs?
"There´s a lot of flaws in this" - dude, seriously? There is absolutely no argument left for Lebron James being the greatest basketball player of all times and it´s not even close.
You will say that LBJ is better at eye test. It's because you never saw MJ played in his playing days. But to all fans that saw MJ and LBJ, everyone will say MJ is better at eye test.
The point you're missing is that the Bulls were great BECAUSE of Jordan. Jordan is what made the Bulls amazing. His competitive drive to win pushed every player on his team to their absolute limit.....in fact, there was only one HOF on Jordan's team for his first 3 Championships (Scottie Pippen). How many do you think Lebron is going to end up for his first three? Lebron has just been unable to have the same impact on his teammates.
Let's also not forget, you like to compare "environments" but nearly HOFer when asked about how well Jordan would do in this era, says he's average 40-50pts per game. Why? Because there is no defense....That is why Jordan's Bulls would destroy the Warriors....not 1 out of 4 times, but likely 4 out of 4.
Tbh I look at those Bulls teams, and there were a lot of really shitty players there. So many of them were mediocre even compared to bench players today. How MJ was able to pull that stinking pile of sht up to multiple championships is sort of a miracle. It took time to develop them and the team into a cohesive world beating unit, but MJ stuck with it, didn't make excuses, paid his dues, didn't ask for teammates to be traded or other stars to join, took the rocky path to the top, made it, and stayed there.
If you're not passing to Lebron in the clutch then apparently you don't have faith in him in the clutch, and you need to watch the video again if you thought it showed Lebron won in statistics, in denial man.
Also a better athelete than Lebron, more agility, more vert, more balance, won a dunk contest and they made a statue and a symbol of one of his dunks. Michael moved like a cat. Lebron moves more like a truck.
If the GOAT is on the floor and you pass to another player to end a game...then the GOAT isnt on the floor! No rational person will say someone is the GOAT but when the game is on the line NOT pass the ball to them for the win.
@@canman87because dudes head was getting hot to because although he’s biased, he knew th at some of the points were correct. Thats why he keeps making excuses for Lebron.
Man literally said..Michael Jordan never evolved his game over time. That right there proved to me your opinion on this debate is irrelevant. If you’re that clueless that is.
What’s amazing about watching these reactions from Lebron proponents is that they actually don’t know anything about Jordan. They don’t understand how truly dominant he was. They don’t get what it means when you tell them that this man would literally take over the outcome of a game, night after night, season after season. All this talk of stats makes it seem closer than it is. In reality it’s not even close. But there was a time when people argued Kobi was the Goat. So it’s always going to be someone.
This dude said LeBron is winning by himself. That’s the biggest lie. So you’re saying jumpshipping from stacked team to stacked team is winning by yourself. Dwayne Wade, Bosh, Allen, Kyrie and Kevin love dis nothing??? This dude😭😭😭😭
Yah its a big lie, jordan ran a 4.3 40 yard dash in college and lebron has been measured from 4.4 to 4.6 so jordan is faster. Idk where people get the lebron is faster than jordan arguement from
Lebron wasnt even close to the athlete that Jordan was, Jordan was a superior athleate to Lebron in everyway, the only reason they say all this because Lebron had good measureable for his size but not anywhere near Jordan's
Bruh, watching this guy making excuses, then being a hypocrite, is hilarious!! Every fact that was presented, he tried to counter with emotional bias, and hypocrisy. Especially when he cried about it being TEAM, when the points were in favor of Jordan, but then claimed LeBron was responsible for his team's successes. 😅
You say Jordan can't get to the basket as much as LeBron because he was "too small". Using your logic, I could argue that LeBron is only good at point blank range BECAUSE of the era he is in. Blame the refs, blame the competition, but never blame LeBron James for any negative stain on his legacy. This is the line of thinking that makes me think most LeBron fans are delusional. If Jordan messed up, I'd blame him. He messed up in that series against Shaq and Penny's Magic. He missed a lot of game-winning shots as well. And yet, despite all this, he's still the GOAT. Why? Because Jordan played his heart out every single night on both ends of the court and produced results far more impressive than anyone in NBA history.
MJ can't get to bucket? Have him tell that to some of the greatest defensive bigs all-time (Hakeem, David Robinson, Mourning, Mutombo, Ewing, Eaton, Parish, Rollins, etc.). They'll tell him to look for the vintage posters Mike put them on. When it comes to b-ball this RUclipsr's IQ is as low as Chris Washburn's.
"Excuses are the tools of incompetence, use to build monumental bridges leading to nowhere, and those who choose to use them often, seldom result in nothingness."
Lil homie is in such denial. He’s giving stats and disagreeing saying the video is making things up 😂. People have been watching the nba since a kid and into their adult years. Mj is the goat and it’s not close
I don't know why these kids don't understand. I watched them both. Lebron is amazing. He's incredible. But Mike is on another level. 48" vertical, HUGE hands, 4.3 40. None of that makes him the 🐐 though. It's his attitude that does that. He was a KILLER. If you know ANYTHING about sports, you know it's 90% mental. And that's where Mike DOMINATES lebron and every other player except maybe Kobe and Larry Bird. The fact is, Mike was the prototype. And the model has never been improved upon
This video isn’t necessarily bagging on LeBron, it’s just showing the huge difference between the two. LeBron gets way more attention because he plays in an era where the media overhypes certain players for views and for monetary gain. Look I’m not saying LeBron is bad by any means. He’s one of the greatest basketball players I have ever watched in my life but comparing him against a player who truly was pretty much great at all aspects of the game just doesn’t make any logical sense. I believe that unfortunately these days people bring emotions into most arguments and that is why they are never resolved. If you can replace emotions with sound logic then you can see a huge difference of perspectives both in the basketball world but also in the everyday world that we live in.
If youre born in the 2000s, you absolutely have zero reasons to have an opinion. Its unlikely you dont know your hoops unless youre a historian, which the videographer is not. Stop attempting to validate. Context matters fam.
Hahaha, the cope is so real. You literally ignore the fact that Lebron shoots less than 20% in the clutch, and he can’t be blamed for that because he should be passing??? Then why’d he try to make a shot??? The clutch shots include driving to the basket. THE GOAT NEEDS TO MAKE THE SHOT.
If I recall, didn't kyrie irving hit the game winner that put the nail in the coffin in 2016 finals. You keep saying lebron beat them, lebron beat them, but you don't mention his teammates.
If I was a coach and I had Larry Bird (SF) on my team, the only guy I would have shoot the ball in those last seconds other than him is Michael Jordan. Larry Bird is the definition of clutch basketball shooting. The only time I remember him missing a clutch shot was during the 1987 Finals against the Showtime Lakers. Never underestimate Larry Legend.
At 39:15 @femitøødrippy is making the argument that LeBron isn't even the best small forward of all time. At clutch time you pass it to your most clutch player (regardless of position), and Larry Bird would by that guy on every team in NBA history.
@@averagejoe845 "If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game, I'd choose Michael Jordan. If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life, I'd take Larry Bird. " Pat Riley
If it's clutch time, I'm passing the greatest clutch hot maker of all time, my shooting guard Larry Bird. He was a shooting guard, right? Hell, Pat Riley said ""If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game I'd choose Michael Jordan; If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life... I'd take Larry Bird." I know who I wouldn't take... LeBron James.
True that. I love your videos. The one thing I would say is that your whole take on Jordan suffers from the fact that you haven’t watched him play full games and especially the playoffs. You say it’s the TEAM winning and yes, but if you actually watch Jordan’s games, you would see that he’s the one scoring and keeping the Bulls in the games. He wills the team to win. His scoring and defensive effectiveness only INCREASED the deeper he got in the playoffs and the later it got in the fourth quarter. It was truly insane and maddening to watch as a Knicks fan. He was a Knicks killer. Pacers killer, etc. Those dudes would have won rings if not for Jordan. He kept the Bulls in games they should have lost. Watch a few of the series if you have time. Just when the other team was leading in the series, Jordan would make a steal, hit a tough jumper and make a clutch assist. Every other game he was doing this. ❤
Winning and accomplishments are SUPPOSED to be different because counter-examples exist, namely Robert Horry with 7 rings and Wilt Chamberlain with his records. Robert Horry won a lot of rings, but he didn't have the accomplishments the best player on a team would get. Wilt Chamberlain set a lot of records, but his dominance didn't translate into winning a lot of championships. As for statistics and longevity, they must ALSO be differentiated due to how the total amount of a certain stat can be misleading to a player's true capabilities. Stockton has the most assists of all-time, but is not considered the best passer of all-time. Magic Johnson got 10,000+ total assists while John Stockton got 15,000+ total. Why is it then that Stockton is not considered the best playmaker of all time? The reason is simple. Stockton beats Magic in longevity alone. In terms of accomplishments, winning, statistics AND the 'Eye Test', Magic beats Stockton as a playmaker. Take off the bias and it's clear as day. Michael Jordan is the GOAT.
Lebron would’ve had just 1 ring if he didn’t form super teams! Stats doesn’t matter if you don’t win in the end. No other NBA legend teamed up with their greatest rivals. 😂
Michael did evolve. He was picked 3rd because at that time they said you can't build around a guard. Then when he started leading the league in scoring they said you can't win a chip while scoring like that. Then he learned to play off ball in a system with tex winters and Phill Jackson and learned to lead the league in scoring and win chips. From 84-93 he was alien with his athleticism. From 95-98 he got a little slower but "evolved" into a pure shooter, post player, with back to the basket, footwork, spacing, fadeaways and high IQ. And won 3 more rings playing that way. He did evolve alot bro.
Actually, MJ was trained as a point guard by Dean Smith meaning he already know how to share the balls and move out it. Watch his early years in college and his tournament against NBA All Star. The issue on his early years with the Bulls was the teammate at the time sucked and were the lottery team thus lack of trust at the time.
I'm sorry but Jordan would of not only scorched Jason Terrry but put lowdown clamps on him. What the hell is Labrons excuse??? That Dallas team Labron played is equivalent to that 93 Phoenix team Jordan played. You mentioned no competition in the 90s when I can guarantee you at least 7 teams I can pull out that era excluding the Bulls that will literally take out any finals teams in the last 10yrs to now. Players then had higher IQs over athleticism.
It looks like your feelings were hurt through out this video bro... let me fill you in, the only reason why your feelings were indeed hurt, is because youre on the wrong side of the argument
"If Jordan could do what LeBron is doing, he would, but he can't cause he's too small he'd never get that close." My brother in Christ, were your eyes glazed over when you watched the Ultimate Jordan Mixtape? He caught bodies on damn near every big in the league, especially in his earlier playing days.
So if Larry Bird was your small forward, you as a coach would choose to pass it to your shooting guard with the game on the line🙄Probably be looking for a new job
I remember your goat in the 2011 finals being the 5th leading scorer behind Bosh, Wade, Nowitzki and Jason Terry (who came off the bench and played 67 minutes less than Lebron).
Bro if Bron plays 23 years ago he ain’t driving to no basket without getting hit or the ball slapped out his had , You have to remember this era is changed better for the Offense back in the day the floor was not spaced out so it was much harder to score plus you had a big center waiting under the rack for you, Bron doesn’t have to worry about that so all we are saying is look at the game for what it is and was a nice you understand that you can learn to understand the game more.
Again you prove you're not even listening to the video, they changed this stat because of Russell Westbrook's stat padding exposed a flaw in the calculation that's why it was changed not so they could skew the numbers in favor of Jordan
Oof. So 40 year old Mike was a statistically better shooter than prime lebron. That's tough. Also he went over how Mike is better statistically using STATS. Not feelings.
You claim that most people who think Jordan is the GOAT only watched Jordan's games and not LeBron's games. However, your comments show that you DIDN'T watch most of Jordan's full games. A bit hypocritical, don't you think?
Is that what he claimed? Infinite ignorance. I guess he doesn't know that Wade, Ray Allen, Kyrie, Haslem, Eddie House, Shumpert, Stackhouse, Haywood, Larry Hughes, Anthony Davis and Westbrook, who all played with Bron, have Jordan as the GOAT. Even the pretty lady that signs Bron's massive paychecks (Jeanie Buss) and sits in her suite to watch Bron, has Black Jesus as the GOAT.
LeBron also went to 8 straight NBA finals and he couldn’t even win three in a row not even one time. And I still can’t get over the loss in the NBA finals against the Dallas Mavericks. I just can’t get over that one. I lost money on that Final. The reason Miami lost to Dallas It’s because of Jason Terry. He was the difference maker in that finals. Take away, Jason Terry Miami win that final and Miami with up 2 games to 0 and lost the next 4 games. How does LeBron let that happen?
I say Dirk was insane during that series, too. But for me, it was "The Big Three" argument. That was one of the most powerful teams I've seen but was definitely miscoached, and once they were off the field, the opposing team would catch up. That powerful team lost to a team with one Allstar and players who knew the fundamentals.
@@zbennalley well, everybody expected Dirk to play like that, nobody expected Jason Terry to out play LeBron James in that series, that’s all I’m saying
Bro you got to understand the game of basketball and you have to take your Biases out of the equation, We can’t make excuses for Bron and sure as hell can’t make excuses for no player.
The amount of denial your are going through with this vid is hysterical You can barely make a coherent statement because everything you believed, everything you thought was a lie
To be clear. The referees are calling them, because the NBA changed the rules after Jordan retired. Games were scoring very poorly because of how dominant the defensive players could be under the old rules so the NBA changed the rules to try to make games more exciting with higher scores. The 3 second rule did not exist in Jordan's career which allowed defenders to stay longer than 3 seconds in the free throw lane (the paint). Which is why its easier now to get into the 0-3 foot range of the basket as defenders aren't allowed to remain there. Then in 2005 hand checking was made illegal. This made it harder for defenders to predict the direction an offensive player was going to turn as they could no longer feel the players body change direction. Lebron might have been as good as he is now playing with the same rules that Jordan did, but one reason why many players back then had shorter careers was because of how aggressive the game was under the basket. Blown out knees and ankles were common for players who took nasty falls. You kept mentioning 'Team, that a Team thing or stat'. Well, Jordan built the Bulls. He pushed and trained and made his team mates better. Pippen and the other would not have become the players they were if it weren't for Jordan pushing the Bulls so hard. Leadership is an attribute of the best in all fields. Basketball is a Team sport.
Jordan ended his career at the age of 40. He played 1,072 games in 15 seasons. LeBron is still playing at age 38. He played 1,408 games in a span of 20 seasons so far. In terms of accomplishments, Jordan did more than LeBron in less time. In terms of legacy, Jordan did more than LeBron in less time. In terms of GOAT status, Jordan has more to show for it than LeBron in less time. Playing more games doesn't necessarily weaken someone's argument for GOAT status, but it also doesn't necessarily strengthen it. If I have to choose between a guy who can paint my house wonderfully within a short amount of time and another guy who can paint my house almost as wonderfully within a longer period of time, I won't pay them the same amount. The guy who produced better results in a shorter amount of time should be paid a higher salary. The player who produced better results in a shorter amount of time should be given the GOAT status. Magic is considered a greater passer than Stockton despite Stockton racking up more assists than Magic. Same logic.
I don't get why Kobe gets skipped over in these debates I mean atleast Kobe gave you a taste of what would of been to see a Jordan updated lol. Kobes 81 point game just gave you a hint of Jordan=🐐
I was thinking about that the other day. You have to look at who started this debate: Lebron for calling himself the GOAT, and his fans. There's no argument, MJ is the GOAT. But I think most people who say that also say Kobe is 2nd. The Lebron fans just skipped Kobe for number 2 and went straight for MJ. I think Kobe is closer to MJ than Lebron is to Kobe.
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Bro you got to stop being a hater and Capping 😂😂😂 to say Jordan never improved his game and he stayed the same naaaa that’s Capp
I get you femi but u never watched MJ play tho 🤷🏽♂️
Lebron wins in statistics? Did you listen to the video? Further more go look up Jordan playing point for the bulls he nearly averaged a triple double when he focused on engaging the offense. Lebron is just an over grown child compared to Michael
@@kevinadams5592 the problem is that this guy is so dilusional 😂
Naw…he is your typical brainwashed young person. You can show them facts, stats, even video evidence and they will deny/ignore it because it goes against their pre-conceived view.
Look up “cognitive dissonance”…that is this dude in a nutshell.
It's interesting how you say "LeBron beat the 73-9 Warriors" instead of "LeBron's TEAM beat the Warriors" while emphasizing "It's Jordan's TEAM that won 72-10" instead of saying "It's Jordan that won 72-10".
Your bias is painfully obvious and I find it hilarious.
He can't see he blind wit them 5 inch lenses
@@lbjho That's not very nice.
I wear glasses too.
So do I bruhh
@@JethNova143 Life is not nice. So start learning how to control your emotions.
@@Dshatila1983 Learning that skill is proving to be a lifelong process.
Or perhaps I'm just a very slow learner.
Won't stop trying though.
The fact that you said jordan couldn't get close to the rim because hes too small shows how much you know about MJ
Facts
Stupidest fuckin comment, Jordan couldn’t get that close 🤦🏽♂️
That made me lol so hard
If 6'6 is too small then you should be Robert wardlow in that boi eyes
Seeing Lebron fans crumble watching this video is always hilarious 😂
Yes it's funny see LeBron fans using pretzel logic to cope with the fact Michael Jordan is the GOAT. BTW I'm also a LeBron fan but a rational one.🤫
Wow..they really have no sensible argument. They gotta manipulate facts an remove context.
You Bron fans really do have it rough in this comparison..
I'm not a big fan of this LeBron fan at all. In his previous videos, he disagrees with everything because MJ is ahead of LeBron in almost all important categories. Sorry to be the one to tell you, Michael is about 25 times better than LeBron. There may be a hurdle in the way of (whatever this guys username is) LeBron's lackluster play and it's - MJ>LBJ
It’s a great past time 😂
It’s amazing 🤣
"Stop it. Get some help."
-Michael Jordan
This dude saying, “I’m tired of talking” after all the analytics were shown is exactly where you can see he knew Lebron lost.
Any LeBron fans that come through that analytics part of the video usually get tongue-tied or they grudgingly respect the data.
I think he know LBJ wasn't winning this debate simply because MJs name showed up first!!!😂😂
that was him saying, i don't wanna dig a giant hole for myself.
I knew before watching this video for the first time Jordan is the goat because I watched them both play. I never laughed at something Jordan did because he was a beast. I laugh at leflop too much like wtf you doing bro
@@mikegeorge3668also, unlike lebum, mj never made any excuses for his losses. The only time or season probably that lebum didn't have an excuse for losing was when he wasn't even present
so many instances in this video where this child showed how little he actually knows. and the copium, wow. it was hard to watch at times, but it was also funny seeing him getting crushed by reality.
This man is trying so hard to cope it's honestly kinda sad but still hilarious at the same time
I know even his thumb nail is hilarious. Lebron couldn't wash MJ's underwear, forget the china stan tying his shoes.
Dude is getting made fun of by a bunch of other streamers
The most crazy part is that
He admitted he doesn’t even know much about Jordan’s career! So he’s just blindly sayin Lebron’s the goat! It’s pretty obvious that Lebron’s his favorite player so he feels like he has to call him the goat but u can have a favorite player without them being the goat!
This boy* he ain't at that age yet
@@DMitch-ny3jb he also said people are bias emotionally to their favorite player and that's why jordan fans are the way they are... and then 15 seconds later, he says I need to go see a Lebron compilation! He just exposed himself in contradiction for being emotionally biased for Lebron lol. Really smart for his age ain't he. He needs some time grow and explore more. Many great players out there beside Lebron man. Can't be kept in one pond.
Nothing makes me happier than seeing an avid LeBron fan try to dispute pure FACTS! This was pure comedy! 😂
Jordan never developed anything? Really?
He was an athletic high-flying highlight reel early on in his career.
People started calling him a ball-hog.
He became defensive player of the year.
People said, "But he couldn't win a ring!"
Won 3 straight championships WITHOUT a team of at least 3 superstars.
His father, who supported him throughout his career, got murdered.
He retired.
Bulls couldn't win a ring without him, despite his co-star Pippen's best efforts.
Team was starting to fall apart before he came back and won 3 straight championships.
As his athleticism faded, he turned into a technical player who clamped down on his opponents on defense and played mind games and shot smooth fade-aways on offense.
When he entered the league, fans, coaches and players alike called him phenomenal.
When he left, people called him the GOAT.
Facts bro. Never had a single teammate to average at least 20ppg.
WRONG. They were calling him GOAT before he left….before he left the first time
He also 'ventured out' and developed baseball skills. So much for his argument on that.
Jordan created a dynasty or you could say 2 dynasties that won 3 championships in a row separated 2 years apart. Now what did LeBron create? Nothing but bad free throw stats.
@@electric8668 Hey now. I never said LeBron had nothing to add to his legacy. I refuse to disrespect his effort and achievements over a long stellar career.
My point, however, is that MJ is the GOAT.
His Airness has the career, achievements and trophies to showcase why he is on a different level compared to other greats like LeBron, Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Bird, Duncan, Wilt and Russell.
Telling Lebron fans that Jordan is better is like telling them Santa isn't real lol
The amount of ignorance and denial when presented clear evidence...
It's great to love LeBron and have him as your favorite player.
However, it's NOT a good thing to turn a blind eye on the truth for the sake of emotions.
A lot of people are reasonable enough to admit that their favorite player isn't the GOAT, and they still support their favorites through thick and thin.
Logic and reason shouldn't be left out of conversations for the sake of emotions.
But …but …but …never mind y’all to thick to understand …😂😂😂
You’re passing to a shooting guard, and not a small forward? Even if he’s LBJ? Larry Bird would like a word. What a joke of a take.
Exactly, if you have supposedly the Goat on your team, you are passing to him regardless of his position.
lol right you pass to your best player
Dude needs to take those big ass classes off maybe he will listen and watch instead of stopping to make a point that's makes him look even dumber
I really love watching l3bron fans react to this video. Not to see them change their mind, but see them frustratingly, blindly dispute the analogy of the creator. Epic. 😂
Errrddd wit the N in front yet. He still. Wears Jordans aka the goats
I love that fact he says "I'm passing to my small forward and not my shooting guard" and that he is breaking boundaries. Apparently, Larry Bird is completely forgotten about in this context. 🙄
@@jaybo4999How about the fact that he’s using a video game to say LeBron is better. 😂
@@jaybo4999Yep. Larry Bird is one of the most clutch players ever. But somehow LeBron is breaking boundaries shooting 20% in the clutch... 😂
@@bdbing23 exactly
The Warriors winning 73 games and losing in the finals only proves that the Warriors wore themselves out chasing that regular season record for nothing. By the time they reached the finals, they were running on fumes, whereas Jordan's 72-win Bulls won the regular season record and STILL won it all in the end.
"This is where he gets personal"... dude you were taking it personally the whole video. And DangerP still brought the analysis and unbiased reasons why the eye test goes to Jordan. LeBron is phenomenal, absolutely dominant and should be celebrated. But anyone who really watched both careers will tell you that Jordan is the goat. Even NBA players who played with both will say the same.
"LeBron is not a great free throw shooter."
Literally the 1 and only thing said in a GOAT debate that even LeBron fans be like "Facts"
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this dude just said if Bron had more mvps or finals mvps we'd say its cuz he played more seasons...
the FACT that he DOESN'T have more mvps, yet he DID play more seasons speaks volumes.. MJ did MORE in LESS time..
and that is what it boils down to, mj did more in less time, more accomplishments in less time. i mean sure lebron got the record for total coring over kaream. but like the old adage goes. if i punch a wall enough times, i can eventually break through it, not to mention lebron came into the nba right out of high school when he was 19, jordan didn't start until he was 21.
The kid is a moron 😂😂😂
💯 facts been saying this also it took Michael Jordan 960 games to reach 30,000 and it took Lebron 1107 to get to 30,000. Jordan did it in less time.
@@demonpride1975Yes they always mention Lebron being all time in scoring but never him being all time in TOV and Missed field goals 😂
Coping and Excuses. He never said it that making it to the finals mattered. He was saying even if I grant you that it does, he made it there because the competition was weak. Maybe you need some hearing aids and not just glasses.
When I first started watching this video it was pretty funny. But then by the end of it got really sad. these LeBron fans lose their mind when you put facts in their face and they can't take it is embarrassing
😔 it's so sad
I have seen so many die-hard LeBron fans wilt under the harsh light of true facts. It's predictable. The best arguments are sympathy arguments, not real, hard core facts.
Igga blind look at his glasses
It’s a tragedy! We should not be mocking mental illness!
😂 Im a lebron fan. But im open minded.. The 1st time i saw mj play, is in the finals against barkley. And then watched his other finals. I've always want the bulls to loose.. But man,. im a lebron fan. But MJ is the goat. That is obviously FACTS.
"I'm tired of talking bro"
Truth hurts 😂😂
When you have to make constant excuse for one's shortcomings it says alot. Jordan is the 🐐
Make constant excuse? Hhhmmm, wonder from whom he took after
Yes. A 40 year old Jordan was a better shooter than James. Not someone making an argument, just a statistical reality.
Also you said at the end the Lebron haters don’t watch the nba now and to appreciate him you have to watch him. Great point I agree. Have you followed your own advice here? How many full Jordan games have you watched? Regular season and especially playoffs?
DAMN!!!
This guy making the video is such a hater it’s comical lol
Logic must prevail
"There´s a lot of flaws in this" - dude, seriously? There is absolutely no argument left for Lebron James being the greatest basketball player of all times and it´s not even close.
You will say that LBJ is better at eye test. It's because you never saw MJ played in his playing days. But to all fans that saw MJ and LBJ, everyone will say MJ is better at eye test.
I was born in 97 and didn't see MJ till he was with the wizards and it's still shit that MJ was doin that I don't see from bron
Apparently y’all just too thick to understand
The point you're missing is that the Bulls were great BECAUSE of Jordan. Jordan is what made the Bulls amazing. His competitive drive to win pushed every player on his team to their absolute limit.....in fact, there was only one HOF on Jordan's team for his first 3 Championships (Scottie Pippen). How many do you think Lebron is going to end up for his first three? Lebron has just been unable to have the same impact on his teammates.
Let's also not forget, you like to compare "environments" but nearly HOFer when asked about how well Jordan would do in this era, says he's average 40-50pts per game. Why? Because there is no defense....That is why Jordan's Bulls would destroy the Warriors....not 1 out of 4 times, but likely 4 out of 4.
They don't wanna admit that cause that's proves us right.
THANK YOU!
Tbh I look at those Bulls teams, and there were a lot of really shitty players there. So many of them were mediocre even compared to bench players today. How MJ was able to pull that stinking pile of sht up to multiple championships is sort of a miracle. It took time to develop them and the team into a cohesive world beating unit, but MJ stuck with it, didn't make excuses, paid his dues, didn't ask for teammates to be traded or other stars to join, took the rocky path to the top, made it, and stayed there.
@@leechrec exactly!!
If you're not passing to Lebron in the clutch then apparently you don't have faith in him in the clutch, and you need to watch the video again if you thought it showed Lebron won in statistics, in denial man.
"He decided to end his career quickly in Washington". LOL, he was 40.
Also a better athelete than Lebron, more agility, more vert, more balance, won a dunk contest and they made a statue and a symbol of one of his dunks. Michael moved like a cat. Lebron moves more like a truck.
He was 40 with a messed up knee... and still trying to play all games.
@@CabralCreates and broken ribs
@@badtuber1654 "Michael moved like a cat. Lebron moves more like a truck." damn 👍
If the GOAT is on the floor and you pass to another player to end a game...then the GOAT isnt on the floor! No rational person will say someone is the GOAT but when the game is on the line NOT pass the ball to them for the win.
My man was killing that water when the truth started setting in. It was getting hot 🥵🔥😅
Dude was sippin' heavy in the second half 🤣🤣
@@canman87because dudes head was getting hot to because although he’s biased, he knew th at some of the points were correct. Thats why he keeps making excuses for Lebron.
@@johnyang7909 Facts
Coping hard😂😂😂
Man literally said..Michael Jordan never evolved his game over time. That right there proved to me your opinion on this debate is irrelevant. If you’re that clueless that is.
These videos are so funny when you look at the LBJ fans depression start to kick in
What’s amazing about watching these reactions from Lebron proponents is that they actually don’t know anything about Jordan. They don’t understand how truly dominant he was. They don’t get what it means when you tell them that this man would literally take over the outcome of a game, night after night, season after season. All this talk of stats makes it seem closer than it is. In reality it’s not even close. But there was a time when people argued Kobi was the Goat. So it’s always going to be someone.
Kobe, not Kobi. Gotta respect the name.
With today's Defense, Jordan would average 40 a game
Probably closer to 50
Lebron would average 60 in the 90s.. Yes I said it I sck. Legay nuts
@@lbjho No, he wouldn’t. He MIGHT average HALF of what he currently averages back then.
@@lbjho .. Let Lebron cone thru the paint playing the bad boys Detroit pistons... He would not get 20ppg
45ppg easy. I would be laughing uncontrollably!!!
"Jordan never developed anything. He just stayed the same... career wise." Ok man. Your ignorance is palpable.
Need to change your channel name to Denial Drippy. It's beyond hilarious at this point
This dude said LeBron is winning by himself. That’s the biggest lie. So you’re saying jumpshipping from stacked team to stacked team is winning by yourself. Dwayne Wade, Bosh, Allen, Kyrie and Kevin love dis nothing??? This dude😭😭😭😭
Lebron was never faster. He's slightly slower so I don't know where this faster lie came from.
It came from them, just like all of the other bogus narratives about both LBJ and MJ, that they've been pushing within the online b-ball community.
Yah its a big lie, jordan ran a 4.3 40 yard dash in college and lebron has been measured from 4.4 to 4.6 so jordan is faster. Idk where people get the lebron is faster than jordan arguement from
It's also a lie that LeBron is more athletic than Jordan. Also Jordan does get enough credit for his handle.
Lebron wasnt even close to the athlete that Jordan was, Jordan was a superior athleate to Lebron in everyway, the only reason they say all this because Lebron had good measureable for his size but not anywhere near Jordan's
@@jasonfisher5320
What does it mean to be a superior athlete?
Jordan was never weak enough to be down 3-1 in the finals.
Was he ever doing in the finals?
Bruh, watching this guy making excuses, then being a hypocrite, is hilarious!! Every fact that was presented, he tried to counter with emotional bias, and hypocrisy. Especially when he cried about it being TEAM, when the points were in favor of Jordan, but then claimed LeBron was responsible for his team's successes. 😅
Not surprised, lebum's habit of making excuses for his losses seems like a virus that spreaded on to some of his fans
Say you never watched MJ without saying you never watched MJ. lol
He's a youngster, ofc he's never watched MJ
You say Jordan can't get to the basket as much as LeBron because he was "too small".
Using your logic, I could argue that LeBron is only good at point blank range BECAUSE of the era he is in.
Blame the refs, blame the competition, but never blame LeBron James for any negative stain on his legacy.
This is the line of thinking that makes me think most LeBron fans are delusional.
If Jordan messed up, I'd blame him.
He messed up in that series against Shaq and Penny's Magic.
He missed a lot of game-winning shots as well.
And yet, despite all this, he's still the GOAT.
Why? Because Jordan played his heart out every single night on both ends of the court and produced results far more impressive than anyone in NBA history.
MJ can't get to bucket? Have him tell that to some of the greatest defensive bigs all-time (Hakeem, David Robinson, Mourning, Mutombo, Ewing, Eaton, Parish, Rollins, etc.). They'll tell him to look for the vintage posters Mike put them on. When it comes to b-ball this RUclipsr's IQ is as low as Chris Washburn's.
Let remind the Lebron who is supposedly bigger and stronger keeps on floppy against smaller player who just breathed on him.
Also he admitted he played awful and owned up to it as well, Jordan also became more motivated due to it
that was sad ... this guy was literally " R A PED" on every argument and still on denial... HAHA
"Excuses are the tools of incompetence, use to build monumental bridges leading to nowhere, and those who choose to use them often, seldom result in nothingness."
Lil homie is in such denial. He’s giving stats and disagreeing saying the video is making things up 😂. People have been watching the nba since a kid and into their adult years. Mj is the goat and it’s not close
I don't know why these kids don't understand. I watched them both. Lebron is amazing. He's incredible. But Mike is on another level. 48" vertical, HUGE hands, 4.3 40. None of that makes him the 🐐 though. It's his attitude that does that. He was a KILLER. If you know ANYTHING about sports, you know it's 90% mental. And that's where Mike DOMINATES lebron and every other player except maybe Kobe and Larry Bird. The fact is, Mike was the prototype. And the model has never been improved upon
This video isn’t necessarily bagging on LeBron, it’s just showing the huge difference between the two. LeBron gets way more attention because he plays in an era where the media overhypes certain players for views and for monetary gain. Look I’m not saying LeBron is bad by any means. He’s one of the greatest basketball players I have ever watched in my life but comparing him against a player who truly was pretty much great at all aspects of the game just doesn’t make any logical sense. I believe that unfortunately these days people bring emotions into most arguments and that is why they are never resolved. If you can replace emotions with sound logic then you can see a huge difference of perspectives both in the basketball world but also in the everyday world that we live in.
13:30 Kyrie played just a big of a part in that series and made the most important play/shot. Lebron didn't do it on his own
If youre born in the 2000s, you absolutely have zero reasons to have an opinion. Its unlikely you dont know your hoops unless youre a historian, which the videographer is not. Stop attempting to validate. Context matters fam.
Hahaha, the cope is so real. You literally ignore the fact that Lebron shoots less than 20% in the clutch, and he can’t be blamed for that because he should be passing??? Then why’d he try to make a shot??? The clutch shots include driving to the basket. THE GOAT NEEDS TO MAKE THE SHOT.
Yo the FACTS got this kid on the ropes, LMAO, throw the damn towel😂😂IF HE DIES HE DIES🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If I recall, didn't kyrie irving hit the game winner that put the nail in the coffin in 2016 finals. You keep saying lebron beat them, lebron beat them, but you don't mention his teammates.
I can't belive I heard this guy say micheal couldn't score from 0-3 feet
If I was a coach and I had Larry Bird (SF) on my team, the only guy I would have shoot the ball in those last seconds other than him is Michael Jordan.
Larry Bird is the definition of clutch basketball shooting.
The only time I remember him missing a clutch shot was during the 1987 Finals against the Showtime Lakers.
Never underestimate Larry Legend.
At 39:15 @femitøødrippy is making the argument that LeBron isn't even the best small forward of all time. At clutch time you pass it to your most clutch player (regardless of position), and Larry Bird would by that guy on every team in NBA history.
@@averagejoe845 "If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game, I'd choose Michael Jordan.
If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life, I'd take Larry Bird. "
Pat Riley
Whenever I need a laugh I come back here
The cope is so hard. This kid needs proof it's raining when he's outside
I wish they would do the same comparison, but with other players included, such at kobe, larry bird, kareem, shaq, and maybe dwayne wade
If it's clutch time, I'm passing the greatest clutch hot maker of all time, my shooting guard Larry Bird. He was a shooting guard, right? Hell, Pat Riley said ""If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save a game I'd choose Michael Jordan; If I had to choose a player to take a shot to save my life... I'd take Larry Bird." I know who I wouldn't take... LeBron James.
True that. I love your videos. The one thing I would say is that your whole take on Jordan suffers from the fact that you haven’t watched him play full games and especially the playoffs. You say it’s the TEAM winning and yes, but if you actually watch Jordan’s games, you would see that he’s the one scoring and keeping the Bulls in the games. He wills the team to win. His scoring and defensive effectiveness only INCREASED the deeper he got in the playoffs and the later it got in the fourth quarter. It was truly insane and maddening to watch as a Knicks fan. He was a Knicks killer. Pacers killer, etc. Those dudes would have won rings if not for Jordan. He kept the Bulls in games they should have lost. Watch a few of the series if you have time. Just when the other team was leading in the series, Jordan would make a steal, hit a tough jumper and make a clutch assist. Every other game he was doing this. ❤
Larry wasn't a shooting guard he was a small forward!! Duh!!
Face it man, there is absolutely no coming back for Lebron stans from this video. Jordan > Lebron, and it’s not close.
Winning and accomplishments are SUPPOSED to be different because counter-examples exist, namely Robert Horry with 7 rings and Wilt Chamberlain with his records.
Robert Horry won a lot of rings, but he didn't have the accomplishments the best player on a team would get.
Wilt Chamberlain set a lot of records, but his dominance didn't translate into winning a lot of championships.
As for statistics and longevity, they must ALSO be differentiated due to how the total amount of a certain stat can be misleading to a player's true capabilities.
Stockton has the most assists of all-time, but is not considered the best passer of all-time.
Magic Johnson got 10,000+ total assists while John Stockton got 15,000+ total.
Why is it then that Stockton is not considered the best playmaker of all time?
The reason is simple.
Stockton beats Magic in longevity alone.
In terms of accomplishments, winning, statistics AND the 'Eye Test', Magic beats Stockton as a playmaker.
Take off the bias and it's clear as day.
Michael Jordan is the GOAT.
Lebron would’ve had just 1 ring if he didn’t form super teams! Stats doesn’t matter if you don’t win in the end. No other NBA legend teamed up with their greatest rivals. 😂
Facts over feelings 😂
Femit00drippy, "DENIAL" is not just a long river in Egypt. 😂😂😂😂
Michael did evolve. He was picked 3rd because at that time they said you can't build around a guard. Then when he started leading the league in scoring they said you can't win a chip while scoring like that. Then he learned to play off ball in a system with tex winters and Phill Jackson and learned to lead the league in scoring and win chips. From 84-93 he was alien with his athleticism. From 95-98 he got a little slower but "evolved" into a pure shooter, post player, with back to the basket, footwork, spacing, fadeaways and high IQ. And won 3 more rings playing that way. He did evolve alot bro.
Actually, MJ was trained as a point guard by Dean Smith meaning he already know how to share the balls and move out it. Watch his early years in college and his tournament against NBA All Star. The issue on his early years with the Bulls was the teammate at the time sucked and were the lottery team thus lack of trust at the time.
"Jordan isn't winning the finals by himself", neither is lebron. His team is always loaded
Sooo in your eyes the GOAT has a losing record (and by a wide margin) in the finals? How many other sports does that logic apply to?
Kinda scary this guy is gonna be a full-time member of our workforce someday
The denial is real my guy😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The video sent my bro in depression
look at hes eyes😂 he cant believe what he sees😂
I’m looking for some LeBron socks to put next to my original Air Jordan sneakers
18:20
Win Shares isn't a team stat. It determines how much a single player contributed to the wins their team got.
I think the better debate is Kobe Vs Lebron... MJ is too good for either... JORDAN IS THE GOAT...
I'm sorry but Jordan would of not only scorched Jason Terrry but put lowdown clamps on him. What the hell is Labrons excuse??? That Dallas team Labron played is equivalent to that 93 Phoenix team Jordan played. You mentioned no competition in the 90s when I can guarantee you at least 7 teams I can pull out that era excluding the Bulls that will literally take out any finals teams in the last 10yrs to now. Players then had higher IQs over athleticism.
It looks like your feelings were hurt through out this video bro... let me fill you in, the only reason why your feelings were indeed hurt, is because youre on the wrong side of the argument
Imagine "longevity" being the only argument for leflop fans lmao
So when Lebron’s team wins, the rings go to Lebron….yet when it’s MJ’s, it’s about the team??? Make it make sense
"If Jordan could do what LeBron is doing, he would, but he can't cause he's too small he'd never get that close." My brother in Christ, were your eyes glazed over when you watched the Ultimate Jordan Mixtape? He caught bodies on damn near every big in the league, especially in his earlier playing days.
Old Mj : 42% outside 3 feet / Lebron : 38% , that's called being better yeah... :D
bro - i cant believe he paused the video after hearing them facts....
Irving was the reason the Cavs beat the Warriors... So, how did someone elses accomplishment make LeBRONZ the GOAT? 🤣🤦♂️👍
So if Larry Bird was your small forward, you as a coach would choose to pass it to your shooting guard with the game on the line🙄Probably be looking for a new job
I remember your goat in the 2011 finals being the 5th leading scorer behind Bosh, Wade, Nowitzki and Jason Terry (who came off the bench and played 67 minutes less than Lebron).
Bro if Bron plays 23 years ago he ain’t driving to no basket without getting hit or the ball slapped out his had , You have to remember this era is changed better for the Offense back in the day the floor was not spaced out so it was much harder to score plus you had a big center waiting under the rack for you, Bron doesn’t have to worry about that so all we are saying is look at the game for what it is and was a nice you understand that you can learn to understand the game more.
Don’t waste your time. This Child is convinced from the beginning that LeBronica is better.
First time they drive to the hole it’s a hard foul! Let ‘em kno what it’s like for tryin to still a basket from my house
Yeah his career wouldnt be as long winded as it is now either if Lebron played in that era to
Again you prove you're not even listening to the video, they changed this stat because of Russell Westbrook's stat padding exposed a flaw in the calculation that's why it was changed not so they could skew the numbers in favor of Jordan
Your guy lebron has been choking away finals series long before golden state
Using video game ratings as your argument couldnt get any more pathetic.
Oof. So 40 year old Mike was a statistically better shooter than prime lebron. That's tough. Also he went over how Mike is better statistically using STATS. Not feelings.
YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH!! - jack
You claim that most people who think Jordan is the GOAT only watched Jordan's games and not LeBron's games.
However, your comments show that you DIDN'T watch most of Jordan's full games.
A bit hypocritical, don't you think?
Is that what he claimed? Infinite ignorance. I guess he doesn't know that Wade, Ray Allen, Kyrie, Haslem, Eddie House, Shumpert, Stackhouse, Haywood, Larry Hughes, Anthony Davis and Westbrook, who all played with Bron, have Jordan as the GOAT. Even the pretty lady that signs Bron's massive paychecks (Jeanie Buss) and sits in her suite to watch Bron, has Black Jesus as the GOAT.
The numbers don't lie. It's so entertaining to watch Lebron fans ignore what our eyes tell us. Lebron was anything BUT clutch.
LeBron also went to 8 straight NBA finals and he couldn’t even win three in a row not even one time. And I still can’t get over the loss in the NBA finals against the Dallas Mavericks. I just can’t get over that one. I lost money on that Final. The reason Miami lost to Dallas It’s because of Jason Terry. He was the difference maker in that finals. Take away, Jason Terry Miami win that final and Miami with up 2 games to 0 and lost the next 4 games. How does LeBron let that happen?
He was outplayed by terry a 34 yo over the hill benchwarmer LOL!!! If that happened to MJ he would have shot himself.
I know...Jason....Terry.....LOL. Could you imagine Jordan losing to a player like Jason Terry??? haha
I say Dirk was insane during that series, too. But for me, it was "The Big Three" argument. That was one of the most powerful teams I've seen but was definitely miscoached, and once they were off the field, the opposing team would catch up. That powerful team lost to a team with one Allstar and players who knew the fundamentals.
@@zbennalley well, everybody expected Dirk to play like that, nobody expected Jason Terry to out play LeBron James in that series, that’s all I’m saying
@@zbennalley Yeah, they were miscoached. I would have sent Lebron home to his mama for the series. They stood a better chance.
I thought his head was going to explode with all the mental gymnastics running through his head.😂
Bro you got to understand the game of basketball and you have to take your Biases out of the equation, We can’t make excuses for Bron and sure as hell can’t make excuses for no player.
The cope is so strong with this bron fan! It’s hilarious!!!!! Even after all the numbers are presented, he still can’t!
The amount of denial your are going through with this vid is hysterical
You can barely make a coherent statement because everything you believed, everything you thought was a lie
This guy is definitely a Lebron James fan. All I hear are excuses.
To be clear. The referees are calling them, because the NBA changed the rules after Jordan retired. Games were scoring very poorly because of how dominant the defensive players could be under the old rules so the NBA changed the rules to try to make games more exciting with higher scores. The 3 second rule did not exist in Jordan's career which allowed defenders to stay longer than 3 seconds in the free throw lane (the paint). Which is why its easier now to get into the 0-3 foot range of the basket as defenders aren't allowed to remain there. Then in 2005 hand checking was made illegal. This made it harder for defenders to predict the direction an offensive player was going to turn as they could no longer feel the players body change direction. Lebron might have been as good as he is now playing with the same rules that Jordan did, but one reason why many players back then had shorter careers was because of how aggressive the game was under the basket. Blown out knees and ankles were common for players who took nasty falls. You kept mentioning 'Team, that a Team thing or stat'. Well, Jordan built the Bulls. He pushed and trained and made his team mates better. Pippen and the other would not have become the players they were if it weren't for Jordan pushing the Bulls so hard. Leadership is an attribute of the best in all fields. Basketball is a Team sport.
Lol this guy.. chicago wins=the team. Cleveland wins = lebron... he doesnt even see his own bias.
Jordan ended his career at the age of 40.
He played 1,072 games in 15 seasons.
LeBron is still playing at age 38.
He played 1,408 games in a span of 20 seasons so far.
In terms of accomplishments, Jordan did more than LeBron in less time.
In terms of legacy, Jordan did more than LeBron in less time.
In terms of GOAT status, Jordan has more to show for it than LeBron in less time.
Playing more games doesn't necessarily weaken someone's argument for GOAT status, but it also doesn't necessarily strengthen it.
If I have to choose between a guy who can paint my house wonderfully within a short amount of time and another guy who can paint my house almost as wonderfully within a longer period of time, I won't pay them the same amount.
The guy who produced better results in a shorter amount of time should be paid a higher salary.
The player who produced better results in a shorter amount of time should be given the GOAT status.
Magic is considered a greater passer than Stockton despite Stockton racking up more assists than Magic.
Same logic.
This dude is delusional. You weren't even born when Mike was playing 😂 The NBA in the 80s and 90s WERE HARDER to beat PERIODT
I don't get why Kobe gets skipped over in these debates I mean atleast Kobe gave you a taste of what would of been to see a Jordan updated lol. Kobes 81 point game just gave you a hint of Jordan=🐐
I was thinking about that the other day. You have to look at who started this debate: Lebron for calling himself the GOAT, and his fans. There's no argument, MJ is the GOAT. But I think most people who say that also say Kobe is 2nd. The Lebron fans just skipped Kobe for number 2 and went straight for MJ. I think Kobe is closer to MJ than Lebron is to Kobe.