He’s a hero to me, because he is always willing to put his principles first. That’s it. Despite all the pressure that may be put on him by the biased media, despite all the sacrifices he may have to make in terms of ‘potentially’ being barred from future big tournaments (inc Grand Slams), he still stands up for his principles. This should be applauded! Instead, it’s derided. Well done Novak, please stay strong. Many many of us fully support you 👏👏
It's incredible that Djokovic is willing to sacrifice his life's work and legacy just to stand up for our freedom of choice... I'm a Fed fan, and also double vaccinated, but I'm actually happy to see the best tennis player in the world is standing up for us and our future, whether you admit it or not.
It is obvious that in the coming months the situation will be openning for the non-vaccinated……A PCR or an antigen Test will be enough to join any tournaments specially here in Europe
Hahahaha.Obiously you missed some very important details about whole situation in the world.Smart people checking reserching comparing and investigating.Indoctrinated people just take everything for granted and believe evryrhing to global media. Or maybe Djokovic is so stuped naive and you are super smart. Who knows....time will show you....
What makes you think that's what's doing. How is what he's doing of any benefit to the larger society. When the vaccines is the only way to get it spread across board. How is someone that's against vaccines helping
Novak djokovic has principles, clearly they are more important than fame and money. The guy is deeply spiritual and can see more than just fame and tennis. I applaud him.
Indeed..it's all about freedom of choice. He's found the love and courage to stand his ground. The Canadian Freedom Convoy is a point in case with people uniting and saying no more mandates...and the 100,000 health workers in the UK this year who united to say not to this vax and the mandate was removed.
Well what is goat... If you don't have something in your game that's unique. Look at MJ , tiger woods etc . His game is just like any other tennis player , nothing unique , just gets balls back. You can debate but tell me 1 thing in his game that unique. If you can't give people what they don't have and strive for, you will never be able to win people heart.
I think Novak made a huge error of judgement in Australia, for such an international star, he lacks a proper and good PR person in his management, his media image has not been handled well, whether his authentic/ non authentic, has integrity or doesn't, im still gonna continue to have the same life problems tomorrow, so personally i couldn't care less, do i like him, personally no, his a little to cold blooded killer for my liking, which is probably, based on the statistic of winning every masters twice, the greatest player that ever lived, without a doubt in my book, just my humble opinion, hope i didnt step on too many toes saying it !!!
In this world of virtue signalers and people selling out their beliefs for a paycheck, it is great to see someone like Novak standing by his principles. This is why he gets my respect. Federer or Nadal would never do such a thing, especially Federer.
What are Roger Federer's beliefs and give me a concrete example of when Roger Federer has sold those beliefs for a paycheck? Needless to say, Novak Djokovic has earned more than any other tennis player in history in terms of prize money. The paycheck is the last thing on his mind. Novak is not sacrificing the paycheck, he's sacrificing the trophy and the opportunity to compete. At this point in his career, that's probably much more important to him than a paycheck
@@rithvikkolla9655 When he kept quiet about Peng Shuai and then gave a very vague message "I hope she is safe" in order to keep his sponsor money from china.
@@jugular911 “She’s one of our tennis champions, a former World No.1, and clearly it’s concerning,” Federer told Sky Italia. “I hope she’s safe. The tennis family sticks together and I’ve always told my children as well that the tennis family is my second family. "I’ve been on tour for 20-25 years and I love the tour, I love the people that are there, (they) are special, the players as well, and she’s one of them." The above is a word to word transcript of Roger on the issue. I would hardly say that as keeping quiet. However let's take a look at some of Roger's existing sponsorship deals and see if they, as you say, are from China. Rolex - British owned, based in Swiss Mercedes Benz - German Credit Suisse - Swiss On Running - Zurich based start up Uniqlo - Japanese Moet & Chandon - French Jura Elektroapparate - Swiss Barilla - Italian Lindt - Swiss Don't see any China in any of his top sponsor deals. Easy to make accusations. Do some more research before you make the basest allegations that hold no water.
Unfortunately too much manipulation by MSM. It's all about freedom of choice and respect to Novak for standing his ground (just like 100,000 health workers in UK who said 'no' to vax mandate). Dr John Campbell showed that natural immunity is more effective than the vax. I too am not vaxxed and many others but vaxxed or not we must unite to uphold the human right to bodily autonomy. It's the common sense thing to do.
For a couple of thousands years we know some basic rules about totalitarian rules: 1. Be afraid and do what we tell you because there is enemy around. 2. Sacrifice for a common or greater good but exactly in a way we tell you, you mustn't improvise. 3. Do what everybody else is doing and don't stand out. 4. Your choices and opinions don't matter because we are in special circumstances. 5. If you reject any of these previous four we will crash you as an example. I am not saying the Novak is some kind of the poster face for freedom of choice or freedom, at least not intentionally, but he indeed exposed how quickly we are ready to give up on our basic needs and freedoms simply because we are told to do so, even when messages form the top of political food chain are clumsy, contradicted and poorly organized into some kind of the logical continuity. I am fully vaccinated, with buster, and will continue to regularly take vaccine if Covic-19 becomes endemic disease. I just don't understand how on earth we came so easy and quickly to the point of belief that if one tennis player, regardless how popular and famous is, refuse to get along, everybody else will be stupid enough to do exactly what one tennis player did. Probably close to 90% of people in the world would get vaccine if they are able to do so this way or another. This whole thing with twisting the arms of people into submission is either utterly stupid or shows how little confidence in human common sense politicians have. Makes me wonder if this "Djokovic saga" has anything to do with vaccines at all.
You make some really interesting points & raise a few great questions. But I wonder if 90% of the world would take a vaccine if they could. Here in the US, anyone can. Vaccines are free and everywhere. People can even choose their brand. And yet, only about like 65% have.
@@amylundy8664 If it was played right from the beginning I am sure percent would be closer to what I have suggested. By playing right I mean clear and responsible messages, doctors and not politicians in a front line explaining, lack of exaggerated promises about what vaccine can actually do, etc. In these circumstances I believe that "your" percentage is closer to the reality. Plus, unequal global distribution of vaccines made them bit redundant in terms of effect on spreading due to constant appearances of new strains that learned how to bypass mRNA vaccines. Honestly, I first opted for 80%, which is probably more realistic, but then asked myself what would have happened if vaccines were not presented to public in almost biblical proportions that turned a lot of people against them when it became clear that their effect is somewhat limited. In my country (Serbia) during first months of vaccination people were waiting in long cues for hours to be vaccinated but as time was passing by interest started to fade. Djokovic Australian saga was a very good micro example of the type of management that is hovering over many decisions made during pandemic. One of the main reasons is the often neglected fact that from the very beginning to the very end of the Saga not one single decision was made based on the very issue that was in the centre of the entire story - Djokovic vaccination status. He was allowed, detained, allowed again by court and deported on account of unclear visa procedures, political estimates of the gain from responding to public outcry, court hearings and finally basically ridiculous perception of his effect on public sentiment of one entire continent. In short words, we managed to make a global news around something that shouldn't have been the problem at all in a first place. I fail to see how or if anyone benefited from anything that happened. By the way, I want to use this opportunity to congratulate all three of you for phenomenal coverage of the major tennis issues. You probably never intended it but this "Big Three" can stand for three of you as well. I am happy I found your channel.
@@amylundy8664 🙂🙂🙂 I seriously would love if you guys would talk longer! I get it, you have lives haha BUT this is a great channel and I could listen all day!
👍👍👍👍 like this guy even more, he stands strong with his convictions in the face of raging mob, and doesn’t sell out at first hurdle. Wish more people have backbones and stand strong with their beliefs like Novak
Absolutely... all about freedom of choice. He's setting an example to more people out there to find the love and courage to stand their ground. The Canadian Freedom Convoy is a point in case with people uniting and saying no to mandates...and 100,000 health workers in the UK this year who united to say not to this vax and the mandate was revoked.
@iannovak5223 - Endangering lives? More than 200 side effects, no proper human trials, and only five chimps were given the vaccine before it was foisted on the public at large! So who is Djokovic really endangering?😂😅
Noleeee !!! I am torn between him playing to claim his rightful deserved spot.. The very summit vs Not playing due to The integrity and freedom of choice that he stands for. R E S P E C T !!! 👍👏👏
Respect to Novak. We now know that the Three injections reduce symptoms but CANNOT prevent infections. So what's the point of pressuring Novak into abandoning his "pro-choice" value?
Some would say it’s the “spreading it to other people” part. By his own admission, it’s regrettable that he potentially exposed others. If he were vaccinated, he’s less likely to get it. And you can’t spread it if you don’t have it. Not saying I’m of this philosophy entirely, but that’s the argument.
@@amylundy8664 If Novak receives the booster, 3 months later his odds of being infected when exposed will be 50/50. Source: npr Article title: "Booster longevity: Data reveals how long a third shot protects" A 50/50 chance is akin to loading up with 3 bullets in a Russian roulette. :(
Soon no more vaccination pass and I can see in two months no more restriction for non-vaccinated….Novak can compete Roland Garros and Wimbledon and I am looking forward to see the greats playing so soon…..
France is authoritarian about the vaccine mandate. Cheatvak ain’t playing the French. New York is Authoritarian about to too. Weakvak ain’t playing there either. If he is lucky, Wimbledon will remain lax. Wimbledon is the slam that completely shut down in 2020 though, don’t forget. They will probably mandate too.
@@goldwolf0606 at the moment, you are correct. But France knows that they cannot maintain this for long, and France's minister of health has hinted that those vaccine mandates will be dropped in late March/early April. It is still too early to tell for certain, but I would not count him out for RG. I bet you got kick out of Novak's son cheering for Rafa!
A man of principles and integrity but breaks covid restrictions doesn't wait for his PCR test result to attend a children award's ceremony and a le equippe interview after knowing he has tested positive not to mention lying on the immigration form to raise his chances to play the AO. Some man lol.
@@bamssudardjo2572 He won the case bcoz he was vouched by the Serbian government about his Covid Test in Dec. 16 that it was legit. But the thing is, it was obvious that the Serbian President will do anything for Novak, so it seems the Australian govt knew they couldn't trust the result but no way to prove it, so they played it safe and took a political stand instead.
@@bamssudardjo2572 As I have said even the Australian govt couldn’t prove the authenticity of his Covid result didn’t I? So what evidence are you asking? The partial evidences and sources are all over the internet, and if you keep an open mind observe, and read not just one but multiple sources and listen to both sides how they defend themselves and analyze the events, you will understand why Australia came up with the decision. I’m sure you too have slight doubts but you won’t admit it. And It’s okay.
@@bamssudardjo2572 Exactly, it became a political reason for lack of evidences but as I have said, Oz gov had lots of doubts bcoz of the inconsistencies and evidences he was healthy and out, and travelled within iso period. If he had Covid in Dec. 16 and had no vaxx- his isolation period is 2-3weeks supposedly. But he travelled to Spain was already spotted practicing in Dec. 31 in Marbella in the span of 2weeks. He didn’t do isolation and if he were concerned at all to other people while he travelled IF indeed he had Covid. It was a lot of inconsistencies but people believed he was just careless apparently. But his tests documents were confirmed by his country, who can confirm otherwise? So the excuse that the Oz gov came right in front of them, the rise of Antivaxx sentiments instead. Is he a man of integrity? I have doubts.
@@bamssudardjo2572 When Novak admitted he didn’t want vaxx for himself he already took a political stand. Vaxx is both a medical as well as political issue all governments are facing, and Yes it the politics that kick him out. Justice was served to Novak by being deported. He thought he can get away with it.
Nadal was first in line to get his jab and won AO in Nole’s absence and when asked about Nole he said that rules are rules , 1 and a half year later and Nole won AO back ,overtook Nadal in slams, is back at world no.1 while Nadal is retired and barely able to play tennis , i just love how karma works!!!!
It's not surprising when the words that Novak used to describe Rafa to his son were - "The guy who hits the ball really hard." Lol I'm sure that is part of what enticed him. 😆 🤣 😂
Amy, with all due respect, this story of Djokovic is more in line with Muhammed Ali, but has NOTHING to do with Michael Jordan deciding to play baseball.
@@amylundy8664 Here's what I think they do not have in common: Ali made a choice affecting his personal life for outward, non-personal reasons. Djokovic made a choice affecting his personal life for a personal reason.
Novak isn’t just playing for the game and love for tennis, don’t believe it for one moment. He wants to be the GOAT. He still believes he can be the GOAT due to his longevity belief. I agree that being no.1 is not critical anymore, as it is unlikely anyone will break that record. But he wants the most slams!
@@Seanocearbhaill Your point? Novak isn't in that situation. He just chooses not to talk the vaccine. Without any good reason. Without any evidence that it would harm him. He's just a fool, and he has repeatedly put others in potential danger. The vaccines have saved millions of lives worldwide.
@@jrsdsu1986 Whether someone puts others at danger is an empirical fact. If he is a danger by not being vaccinated then all people who aren't are a danger too. Consider why you deem their level of danger different when they're not.
I am with Novak. Kudos Novak for sticking for your principles and beliefs! The lady missed the point of Novak. Novak mentioned, long term consequences, that mean years ahead, not weeks ahead (her reference to Rafa).
I said it once, I said it 46 times, Amy is a total babe. What a hottie. Love the show too. All three of you have incredible tennis insights and acumen and a great deal of journalistic integrity. Keep up the great work guys. You are like the Three Wise Men of tennis shows.
This comment is so dated no one will likely read it. I am an annoyingly huge Novak fan. I always wanted him to take the jab. My reasoning was very much along the lines of 'the common good' argument Amy alluded to. Serbia was one of the least vaccinated countries in the world. Novak, as their national hero, could have been the catalyst that had many of his countrymen and fans worldwide get vaccinated and save lives. I am of course thrilled he is at 24 and almost 400 weeks #1.
Really good balanced discussion..there are no vaccine mandates in England at the moment so hopefully Wimbledon will be ok. Just wanted to add it is totally personal choice as the vaccines do not stop transmission..Nadal was quite ill with Covid before the AO, Sinner has had it straight after.
He is THE GUY !!! John wick of tennis.. He just WILL hunt down anybody on his way. He has traversed the toughest path to greatness unlike the 2 silver spoon kids of tennis.. Fedal. But to me.. That's why i began to admire him more than rafa recently. Desperation has caught upto rafa and the cheap shots he takes towards novak have truly exposed rafa s true character in the recent times. And novak on the contrary.. Novak has retained his class.. Even more with greater the adversaries.
Kk you expect Raphael to lose the final to prove he's not desperate. Or he should have careless completely about coming to Australia bcos novak is not playing. What are u saying.
@@sesanjoseph8805 not about this title at all. Rafa realized he cant win novak on court and recently is using crooked off the court character assassination tactics by unnecessarily talking about peers. He should either stand neutral about some things which he may not necessarily have complete idea on or the thought process of other tennis players. Instead rafa is engaging in unnecessary war of words using media as his support. Tat is NOT the rafa i used to ADMIRE. 😔
@@amylundy8664 Amy I can't believe it's you, yes we have something in common I discovered that a while back you three are interesting in different aspects of the game but when it comes to psychology you know what you're talking about it's an honor that you answer me muchas gracias.
Say what you will about his decisions whether you are his fan or not you gotta admit Djoker has principles and he stands by them no matter how prominent of a celebrity he becomes (while everyone out here is trying to be super PC and fake). If he is exercising his right to put what he wants into his body without forcing other people to act that way I can;t knock him
Of course there could be new information regarding the mRna vaccines in the long term! Most people who are hesitant refer to the absence of long term data; historically vaccine trials take a few years whereas these ones did not. You kind of insinuate that the only reason why he is waiting is that he thinks he still has a few years and hopefully his body will still be in peak condition, which somewhat slanders him? I think that he would have made the same decision, even if the prospect of him playing in any tournaments in the next few years was completely in doubt, but I may be wrong. I was never a Djokovic fan, but as many seem to be saying, I see a man who has his principals and who sticks to it - integrity, a rare trait in todays world and definately not an easy position to be in!!!!! To label him stubborn would seem to me to be a childish sentiment. I think this issue is too big and too complicated - he is giving up A LOT to stick to his principals. Also to comment on the individual vs the common good - it can only be for the common good if it is effective at curtailing infection/transmission - does not seem to be the case, especially if the most highly vaccinated/boosted countries are exactly the countries with the highest infection rates (eg. Israel).
Extremely well said buddy, there is no difference in transmission and for anyone under 60 who is healthy the risk is not even 0.1% for now the fatality rate for under 60s is 0.1-0.15% which might go to 0.05% with vaccine but we don’t and we can’t know long term effects for now. I don’t know why people are ignoring this altogether
What an interesting discussion. Really enjoyed different points of view and possibilities how it can end for Novak. But yeah, as a fan of him, I'm really sad, I understand and respect his decision but still it hurts me a lot. I lean towards the opinion that he might regret it in the future, it kinda reminds of the situation back when he didn't want to undergo a sugery. But it is what is. If someone hasn't watched the interview yet, I'd recommend choosing audio version on Spotify or BBC website, because this TV version was edited and some thoughtful Nole's qouates were cut out. TV version lasted like 25 minut, but the original full interview was nearly 40 min long.
Keep in mind that for a Djokovic-caliber public person, getting a vaxxed certification without actually taking the vax would come utmostly easy. So... this is really only about Nole's wilfulness. That without which he wouldn't have won in Australia in 2012, and more likely still he wouldn't in Wimbledon, 2018 and 2019. And many other wins he's won.
Not to argue semantically, but I think willfulness is not the correct word because it has somewhat of a derogatory sense. I think steadfastness would be better because Novak is so often unwavering in the pursuit of his goal. Some may say stubbornness, but I prefer steadfastness. I guess it is a matter of opinion.
Thanks for noting that, the critical (not derogatory, I guess) shade of meaning to "wilful" had eluded my thought. I'd go for steadfast or unyielding, then, or adamant.
Fabulous analysis per usual. For me, I hope Djokovic returns to the tour ASAP. But, I also respect and support the national/tournament restrictions in place to help ensure crowd/population safety. If that means he has more difficulty to compete, then that is the reality we live in. We all have the freedom to make such choices for the most part - but those choices have consequences.
Before Australia open, l thought Djokovic could win most grand slams among the male players and he could break Steffi Graf 's record of 377 weeks of being world number one. After his interview, I don't know whether he can achieve those l have mentioned as above. I hope he will be able to play in the grand slams.
Or even that if he does play them, if he will able to achieve what we all thought he might. His game may be off for a while as he recovers from all this and I don't just mean the time away. Ultimately I am pulling for him to roar back.
@@jwbrandt70 He may not be allowed to play in any grand slam if France , England and USA requires any players to get vaccination to come to the countries, unless he changes his mind and get vaccination. I am not trying to judge who is right or wrong. I respect individual's decision as well as counties' rules.
Such a great discussion, loved it! Thanks for doing it. One point on Djokovic's stand on this vaccination topic.. Has any of you seen his podcast with Wim Hof, the Dutchman? I have watched it, I think he is influenced by it, and thinks his immune system is better then this vaccine...
There was an episode of Dr John Campbell on his RUclips channel where he broke down the stats and showed natural immunity is proven to be MORE effective than this particular vax. He is followed by millions of people (more than the BBC - who wanted to monitor him - surprise, surprise).
If you discuss about vaccines or unvaccine regarding covid 19, you should add one more person in this group such as a scientist. That will be fair. Because you all lack of knowledge in this area. He is already got covid. He has natural immunity better than vaccines.
WOW! Did not expect this strong conviction win out based on Novak's having gotten surgery after he DID NOT WANT to have surgery for his career and legacy. It's only when our convictions and principals are tested, that we really know! Looks like I was mistaken. Nole has picked his Principals over Politics and career Play in 2022. He will drop from being #1 sometime in the next few weeks/month & then miss the remainder of the 2022 season GS’s. Let’s see what Wimbledon, Roland Garros & Flushing Meadow decide about their rules ~ I’m prognosticating 90/10 or 95/5 that all players will have to be vaxed in 2022 for the remaining 3 GS’s competitions. Needing more information does not seem relevant unless we look at Immunology, Epidiomolgy & clinical issues with RNA-based vax's versus classical vax's which will require years/decades of data to unpack. The human immue system and I believe natural immunity will ALWAYS be superior. That said, vaccines have been crucial in keeping people alive and keeping people from getting rerally ill. Thanks, Amy, Joel & Gill for this wonerful discussion on many levels. Always Best, Milan
@Coefficient of restitution Difference of one major doth not maketh the GOAT. Novak has a way more complete profile. Most weeks at No 1 (360)>Rafa's 209. Won all 9 Master's 1000 titles, which Rafa hasn't. And won them twice. Only one to win 4 Grand Slams in a row on three different surfaces. But sure, for casual tennis fans like you, 21>20 is all that matters. I can understand that.
I appreciate, respect the importance of the decision from Nole, however I honestly think he already sees that by the time Wimbledon or French are scheduled most likely the mandatory vaccination will it be a thing.
I am listening these three people.... and I can`t believe that so intelligent people can be so shallow. No matter how analytic these people are, regarding tennis, their life analytics are so superficial!
Medvedev s monologue after ao finals is not heat of the moment. It has been happening from so long. First layer is big 3... Especially fedal favoritism. 2nd layer is the western vs eastern europe bias.. Unfortunately its true... And to be honest.. I am from india and nothing to do with any kind of a bias... But from a neutral stand point and following tennis from about 3 decades.. I can confirm that bias.. In tennis and in media.. Thete is this unsaid favoritism. Only when slams are not limited to 4 western europe predominant countries... And when slams are promoted and organised across the world is when we will get some balance... But for now i understand.. Its business.. Bottom line is to cater to the audience and the audience is western europe dominant countries. But ask me or even fedal fans, if its fair !!?? Naaaa... It aint and sadly.. fedal fans know it too ☺️
Interesting comment Guru Ji and i largely agree with this comment. NATO versus non NATO country players get entirely different coverage. They make Russians the villains in all the movies as well.
i agree, that Djokovic has time on his side. Unlike Federer and Nadal, he might have more active years of playing excellent. And he is good on all surfaces. i als think that the pandemic has changed because of Omicron, and the international rules will be less stringent. i disagree with those who say that Djokovic should be admired for his adamant rejection of the vaccine. Getting vaccinated is more than a personal choice because the vaccine helps to get a handle on the pandemic,.and Novak seems to have a very strained reationship with the natural sciences.
Different people have different reaction with medicine and vaccine. Don't pigeonhole in one box. I have a lot of allergies and I am very cautious about what I put in my body. Remember Chardy regrets having the vaccine after experiencing adverse effects from the vaccine.
We've had 3 big 3s: (1) Emerson, Laver and Rosewall; (2) Borg, Connors and McEnroe; (3) Federer, Nadal and Djokovic. Maybe our very own Big Three, Gill, Amy and Joel, will do a show who is the GOAT big 3. The battle of the big 3s! 🙂
your problem is you all became cowards,so when you come across a free man it irritates you, you are angry that you are not free like Novak to say what you think and do.Unlike him, you court your master, you support the stronger. You are afraid that you may not be stupid, you are afraid that you have not become slaves, that is why Novak is guilty and a legend.
This topic still has a lot of chatter, especially after Novak just gave his first interview about the AO debacle. What bothers me is people, who support Novak's decision, are saying the other tennis players are "sheep" "followers" "weak" for taking the vaccine. That really bothers me. Perhaps just a few players did get vaccinated so they can play in tournaments (I actually don't know if any did) but there are players who actually believe in medical science and chose to take the vaccine based on that belief. Just because Novak chose a certain path doesn't make him smarter, wiser or more intelligent from someone who took a different path. The bottom line is; there are people who want this pandemic to end and they also believe in medical science. Stop labeling those people are "sheep" or any other derogatory term.
Not labeling anyone, but before the Australian Open announced that vaccination will be required only about 60% of the players were vaxxed. The rest of 40% did it because they had to.
Except vaccines do not stop the spread and they cannot end the pandemic. Look at Singapore which had more that 95% of its citizens vaccinated and they had their biggest outbreak ever in November. And Gibraltar and so on. Professional athletes are at an extremely low risk from covid especially if they already have natural immunity. So yes i do not quite understand why other players who already had natural immunity chose to get vaccinated. They do seem like followers or worse they lack some critical thinking.
With Federer injured , Novak not able to play and Nadal playing a limited number of tournaments, may be its time to expand 3 to 5 otherwise this podcast could get a bit boring as there's not a lot to discuss.
Jo really needs to remind himself to let the other 2 talk more. You may have a point but let the other 2 participate more. It gets to a point where it is irritating, perhaps not just to some listeners but for the other 2 as well.
Novak may get his wish. The Covid numbers are going down. He probably will not get to play the sunshine double but after that we will see. This is the best tennis show on RUclips. No offense to Joel and Gil but Amy is my favorite 🤩
Joel: You're stinking. You have no right to openly and publicly opine in this way. Your biases are yours. Quit treating us like dummies. You have no warmth. You do not feel warm. You are cold
After seeing the full interview (versus the two clips in the original article) I believe the interviewer did an excellent job overall. I'm still quite mixed about Novak's sharing in this interview. He still seems emotionally disconnected. I mean if McEnroe and Connors went up in arms with the goings ons in Australia this year, then one would think Novak would have something to say. If I'm right, when he comes back he may not be at his best. And if one looks at Nadal still being around, how much FAA has improved in such a short time, and Medvedev continuing to grow, Novak maybe ought not assume he can just take more slams at all. All that said I'm a huge Djokovic fan and want to see him continuing to shine! Some editing going on in this episode? So curious how the show got cut and re-started just after Amy discussed briefly her decision to get fully vaccinated herself. Amy was kind of giggling upon the resumption so trying to guess how it got cut there and why. 🙂
Sure. I’ll tell you. For one thing I got a dry throat at the end there & was trying not to cough 😷🤣 Secondly, the 3 of us agreed before the show that we didn’t want to re-litigate Novak’s Australian drama because we did several shows on that in January. That said, our show is unscripted. Gill posed a question about Alex Hawke. I made the comment that I thought it was pretty clear Novak would not “stir anti-vax sentiment” … so we ended up going back to Australia, which we really did not intend to do. Too much else to discuss. I quickly steered the conversation back to future tournaments, and that’s where we picked it back up.
Meddy Bear is a softy 😂!!!! “I’m not playing for the fans anymore” 😂!!! Fedal are the Fan’s Favorites. Just accept it and earn your dues. GOATdal used to be the villain when playing Federer, but he has become the fans other half favorite now.
Djokovic and Nadal get equal support when they play each other. Just watch 2018 Wimbledon,2021 RG. Hell in atp cup 2020 Djokovic was getting more support than Rafa nadal. Djokovic also got support against Medvedev in us open 2021. Everyone get support against Medvedev
Rafa for more than 18 years not even get 1 single title . ATP final. + Miami + Shanghai + paris open = zero titles . How come he became the GOAT ?? 😇😇😇😇😇😇😂
Drucker: As a fellow American or yours said, and I refer to the Patrician Gore Vidal, funny how Jews were, before the invention or Israel, all for the working class and the rights of the collective to help the individual, but after, all for the far far right, and not at all for what Djok's disregard for the greater good. Howe shameful of your guest, Gill.
What "stuff", Joel Druker, At 24:35. What are you going on about. You cannot convince us, or me, we who are of an otherwise opinon. I resent your showcasing on this platform and minding zilch about the rest of us, who care what supposed tennis minds feel about issues we care about.
Amy: So Sorry some neds did not work out, BUT. In the 70s even in your country, government directed its3elf for the people's good. No longer. What side are you going to be on?
This saga has dragged on and most people don’t care anymore. It’s his choice, he knows the current covid rules of each country. These rules may change but if they don’t relax the rules he is risking being out 2 more slams. Tennis lives without Novax.
Gill: Not sure why... Although I always sensed Drucker's biases. Anyway, it's by far your worst podcast of "3". Honestly, let's put this behind us. I am tired of hearing hearoic talk about a LOSER and POOR SPORT as is Djok. If youo don't find the balance, then I'm not with you
Gill: Episode 78 is the first time I have hated your broadcast. First time I have picked up on racist/nasty/totalitarian/jingoistic tendencies from you all. I am ashamed by what I hear from you three. It's an embarrassment. HOW CAN YOU RBROADCAST HATRED?
I respect Novak as a tennis player. I accept that it's his choice whether or not to be vaccinated. But let's be real here: the 'sacrifice' he's making is to refuse a life-saving vaccine that 40% of the world's population hasn't even been given a chance to access. I used to root for Novak most of the time, but I doubt I will any more. Whether he likes it or not, Novak is a public figure, and people are going to be influenced by his decision, which may not be anti-vax in the strictest sense, but definitely flies in the face of the abundant scientific information we have. Some things are more important than tennis, including public health. When this pandemic ends (hopefully soon), it will be no thanks to him. He's taking a principled stand no doubt, but in my opinion it's a wrong one, and will cause harm. Great episode Amy, Joel, Gill... enjoyed the discussion.
Totally disagree - this is not a real vaccine - it does not prevent you from getting the virus, but helps those with compromised immune systems to recover from it. It is not necessary at this stage for Novak to risk getting the vaccine. FYI at this stage the vaccine is pretty much useless against the present variant- Omicron. The pandemic is now an endemic and as Novak has natural immunity, he does not need the vaccine. He is totally capable of making an informed decision.
yes, now we know, that Novak is (arrogantly) sure, that he will be winning majors after the pandemic is over, so he can wait. I respect his integrity and his resolve and his belief in himself, but ultimately what it shows me is that he thinks of himself as a kind of superman and that may backfire big time. just for disclosure: I'm a fan of Novak's tennis, I'm not a fan of Novak's personality. see, I didn't want to take a shot, but I was forced to if I wanted to keep my job. Novak has the luxury to wait and see. maybe better vaccine, maybe covid retreat, whatever, but it doesn't resonate well with people who do not have this luxury. it all goes down with this. Novak is strongly believing, that in say, 2 years' time he will be winning majors and Rafa will not. that, in my opinion, is his reasoning and he might be right and he might be wrong. only time will tell. big 3 competing at the same major again? Wimbledon if we are lucky, the US open if we are very lucky.
I am a fan of his tennis and even more of his personality....he is super human (more real than you can imagine for now) and a very conscious human being.
If you are vaccinated, why are you worried? Don't you trust the vaccine to protect you? Novak would be the safest person to be around - he has strong natural immunity. Why aren't you talking about that, or the young athletic guys who have died from myocarditis after getting the vaccine. Novak is the smart one for not being a sheep and a bully like so many .
He’s a hero to me, because he is always willing to put his principles first. That’s it. Despite all the pressure that may be put on him by the biased media, despite all the sacrifices he may have to make in terms of ‘potentially’ being barred from future big tournaments (inc Grand Slams), he still stands up for his principles. This should be applauded! Instead, it’s derided. Well done Novak, please stay strong. Many many of us fully support you 👏👏
It's incredible that Djokovic is willing to sacrifice his life's work and legacy just to stand up for our freedom of choice... I'm a Fed fan, and also double vaccinated, but I'm actually happy to see the best tennis player in the world is standing up for us and our future, whether you admit it or not.
It is obvious that in the coming months the situation will be openning for the non-vaccinated……A PCR or an antigen Test will be enough to join any tournaments specially here in Europe
Hahahaha.Obiously you missed some very important details about whole situation in the world.Smart people checking reserching comparing and investigating.Indoctrinated people just take everything for granted and believe evryrhing to global media.
Or maybe Djokovic is so stuped naive and you are super smart.
Who knows....time will show you....
I agree. Federer sells out his beliefs for a paycheck. Djokovic stands by his principles. We should respect that.
What makes you think that's what's doing. How is what he's doing of any benefit to the larger society. When the vaccines is the only way to get it spread across board. How is someone that's against vaccines helping
Novak djokovic has principles, clearly they are more important than fame and money. The guy is deeply spiritual and can see more than just fame and tennis. I applaud him.
Indeed..it's all about freedom of choice. He's found the love and courage to stand his ground. The Canadian Freedom Convoy is a point in case with people uniting and saying no more mandates...and the 100,000 health workers in the UK this year who united to say not to this vax and the mandate was removed.
Politicians & their slaves media lied about a lot of things against him but he is a true winner the best ever No1.
Novak has tremendous integrity, authenticity and strength. He will always be the GOAT to me!!!
Well what is goat... If you don't have something in your game that's unique. Look at MJ , tiger woods etc . His game is just like any other tennis player , nothing unique , just gets balls back. You can debate but tell me 1 thing in his game that unique. If you can't give people what they don't have and strive for, you will never be able to win people heart.
@@Southpaw101 amazingly ignorant, asinine, vacuous comment and hateful to boot
This thinking that he has integrity is so strange! He has no integrity, authenticity or strength. He's a horrible person, period.
I think Novak made a huge error of judgement in Australia, for such an international star, he lacks a proper and good PR person in his management, his media image has not been handled well, whether his authentic/ non authentic, has integrity or doesn't, im still gonna continue to have the same life problems tomorrow, so personally i couldn't care less, do i like him, personally no, his a little to cold blooded killer for my liking, which is probably, based on the statistic of winning every masters twice, the greatest player that ever lived, without a doubt in my book, just my humble opinion, hope i didnt step on too many toes saying it !!!
@@freemangriffin4953 Im just curious, is your opinion (which is absolutely your rite) solely based on Australia ?
Novak - a man of integrity!
not
Shame on the BBC for throwing out the best parts of the interview. I wonder what the motive and reason is. It's sad what the media has turned into.
BBC is another vile leftist institution which only knows how to peddle mendacity
The media is instructed to dehumanize those that threaten the powers to be.
Breaking news! Man with principles exists!
@Ian Novak the disgusting principles are your lack of insight and adhesion to big pharma being right
In this world of virtue signalers and people selling out their beliefs for a paycheck, it is great to see someone like Novak standing by his principles. This is why he gets my respect. Federer or Nadal would never do such a thing, especially Federer.
What are Roger Federer's beliefs and give me a concrete example of when Roger Federer has sold those beliefs for a paycheck? Needless to say, Novak Djokovic has earned more than any other tennis player in history in terms of prize money. The paycheck is the last thing on his mind. Novak is not sacrificing the paycheck, he's sacrificing the trophy and the opportunity to compete. At this point in his career, that's probably much more important to him than a paycheck
@@rithvikkolla9655 When he kept quiet about Peng Shuai and then gave a very vague message "I hope she is safe" in order to keep his sponsor money from china.
@@jugular911 “She’s one of our tennis champions, a former World No.1, and clearly it’s concerning,” Federer told Sky Italia.
“I hope she’s safe. The tennis family sticks together and I’ve always told my children as well that the tennis family is my second family.
"I’ve been on tour for 20-25 years and I love the tour, I love the people that are there, (they) are special, the players as well, and she’s one of them."
The above is a word to word transcript of Roger on the issue. I would hardly say that as keeping quiet. However let's take a look at some of Roger's existing sponsorship deals and see if they, as you say, are from China.
Rolex - British owned, based in Swiss
Mercedes Benz - German
Credit Suisse - Swiss
On Running - Zurich based start up
Uniqlo - Japanese
Moet & Chandon - French
Jura Elektroapparate - Swiss
Barilla - Italian
Lindt - Swiss
Don't see any China in any of his top sponsor deals. Easy to make accusations. Do some more research before you make the basest allegations that hold no water.
Totally agree.
Well said. Nadal and Federer are game players. 100%
Unfortunately too much manipulation by MSM. It's all about freedom of choice and respect to Novak for standing his ground (just like 100,000 health workers in UK who said 'no' to vax mandate). Dr John Campbell showed that natural immunity is more effective than the vax. I too am not vaxxed and many others but vaxxed or not we must unite to uphold the human right to bodily autonomy. It's the common sense thing to do.
For a couple of thousands years we know some basic rules about totalitarian rules:
1. Be afraid and do what we tell you because there is enemy around.
2. Sacrifice for a common or greater good but exactly in a way we tell you, you mustn't improvise.
3. Do what everybody else is doing and don't stand out.
4. Your choices and opinions don't matter because we are in special circumstances.
5. If you reject any of these previous four we will crash you as an example.
I am not saying the Novak is some kind of the poster face for freedom of choice or freedom, at least not intentionally, but he indeed exposed how quickly we are ready to give up on our basic needs and freedoms simply because we are told to do so, even when messages form the top of political food chain are clumsy, contradicted and poorly organized into some kind of the logical continuity. I am fully vaccinated, with buster, and will continue to regularly take vaccine if Covic-19 becomes endemic disease. I just don't understand how on earth we came so easy and quickly to the point of belief that if one tennis player, regardless how popular and famous is, refuse to get along, everybody else will be stupid enough to do exactly what one tennis player did. Probably close to 90% of people in the world would get vaccine if they are able to do so this way or another. This whole thing with twisting the arms of people into submission is either utterly stupid or shows how little confidence in human common sense politicians have. Makes me wonder if this "Djokovic saga" has anything to do with vaccines at all.
You make some really interesting points & raise a few great questions. But I wonder if 90% of the world would take a vaccine if they could. Here in the US, anyone can. Vaccines are free and everywhere. People can even choose their brand. And yet, only about like 65% have.
@@amylundy8664 If it was played right from the beginning I am sure percent would be closer to what I have suggested. By playing right I mean clear and responsible messages, doctors and not politicians in a front line explaining, lack of exaggerated promises about what vaccine can actually do, etc. In these circumstances I believe that "your" percentage is closer to the reality. Plus, unequal global distribution of vaccines made them bit redundant in terms of effect on spreading due to constant appearances of new strains that learned how to bypass mRNA vaccines.
Honestly, I first opted for 80%, which is probably more realistic, but then asked myself what would have happened if vaccines were not presented to public in almost biblical proportions that turned a lot of people against them when it became clear that their effect is somewhat limited. In my country (Serbia) during first months of vaccination people were waiting in long cues for hours to be vaccinated but as time was passing by interest started to fade.
Djokovic Australian saga was a very good micro example of the type of management that is hovering over many decisions made during pandemic. One of the main reasons is the often neglected fact that from the very beginning to the very end of the Saga not one single decision was made based on the very issue that was in the centre of the entire story - Djokovic vaccination status. He was allowed, detained, allowed again by court and deported on account of unclear visa procedures, political estimates of the gain from responding to public outcry, court hearings and finally basically ridiculous perception of his effect on public sentiment of one entire continent. In short words, we managed to make a global news around something that shouldn't have been the problem at all in a first place. I fail to see how or if anyone benefited from anything that happened.
By the way, I want to use this opportunity to congratulate all three of you for phenomenal coverage of the major tennis issues. You probably never intended it but this "Big Three" can stand for three of you as well. I am happy I found your channel.
Thanks gil, amy, joel for another great episode…as always, i wish they were longer!
Thanks 😊
@@amylundy8664 🙂🙂🙂 I seriously would love if you guys would talk longer! I get it, you have lives haha BUT this is a great channel and I could listen all day!
Thank you for your feedback… we’ll talk it over 😌
Ok thank you for the replies 🙂
👍👍👍👍 like this guy even more, he stands strong with his convictions
in the face of raging mob, and doesn’t sell out at first hurdle. Wish
more people have backbones and stand strong with their beliefs like
Novak
Absolutely... all about freedom of choice. He's setting an example to more people out there to find the love and courage to stand their ground. The Canadian Freedom Convoy is a point in case with people uniting and saying no to mandates...and 100,000 health workers in the UK this year who united to say not to this vax and the mandate was revoked.
@Ian Novak I think Nole is none of the above....try some more LOL.
@Ian Novak bigoted asinine comment
@@robertstar7463 agree
@iannovak5223 - Endangering lives? More than 200 side effects, no proper human trials, and only five chimps were given the vaccine before it was foisted on the public at large! So who is Djokovic really endangering?😂😅
Took a jab forced to take a booster...I'm kind regretting
Standing 100% in Nole stance
I appreciate that Americans have such respect for individual choice/rights. Seems to be pretty rare around the world
It’s *part* of what the United States was founded on, and that doesn’t disappear even after hundreds of years.
@@amylundy8664 USA! USA! USA!
@@amylundy8664 Partly true. The Southern States didn't want it and some clauses were not introduced until later.
Noleeee !!!
I am torn between him playing to claim his rightful deserved spot.. The very summit vs
Not playing due to The integrity and freedom of choice that he stands for.
R E S P E C T !!! 👍👏👏
Not only a good discussion about tennis, but also a great discussion on individual vs common good. Love this show!
Respect to Novak. We now know that the Three injections reduce symptoms but CANNOT prevent infections. So what's the point of pressuring Novak into abandoning his "pro-choice" value?
Some would say it’s the “spreading it to other people” part. By his own admission, it’s regrettable that he potentially exposed others. If he were vaccinated, he’s less likely to get it. And you can’t spread it if you don’t have it. Not saying I’m of this philosophy entirely, but that’s the argument.
@@amylundy8664 If Novak receives the booster, 3 months later his odds of being infected when exposed will be 50/50. Source: npr Article title: "Booster longevity: Data reveals how long a third shot protects" A 50/50 chance is akin to loading up with 3 bullets in a Russian roulette. :(
Soon no more vaccination pass and I can see in two months no more restriction for non-vaccinated….Novak can compete Roland Garros and Wimbledon and I am looking forward to see the greats playing so soon…..
I'm surprised that people are surprised that he will make a different decision especially when you are interested in tennis and him.
Actually Amy, France has just said that all mandates will likely be dropped in late March, early April, so RG could well be in the works for Novak.
France is authoritarian about the vaccine mandate. Cheatvak ain’t playing the French. New York is Authoritarian about to too. Weakvak ain’t playing there either. If he is lucky, Wimbledon will remain lax. Wimbledon is the slam that completely shut down in 2020 though, don’t forget. They will probably mandate too.
That’s great news. Thanks Alex!
@@goldwolf0606 at the moment, you are correct. But France knows that they cannot maintain this for long, and France's minister of health has hinted that those vaccine mandates will be dropped in late March/early April. It is still too early to tell for certain, but I would not count him out for RG. I bet you got kick out of Novak's son cheering for Rafa!
@@goldwolf0606 what a troll you are
@@jugoslavnamljidjiu9021 he is evil 😈
my respect for novak 📈📈📈
Novak a man of principles and integrity,,,, hard to find these days among athetles who only look for fame and money.
A man of principles and integrity but breaks covid restrictions doesn't wait for his PCR test result to attend a children award's ceremony and a le equippe interview after knowing he has tested positive not to mention lying on the immigration form to raise his chances to play the AO. Some man lol.
@@bamssudardjo2572 He won the case bcoz he was vouched by the Serbian government about his Covid Test in Dec. 16 that it was legit. But the thing is, it was obvious that the Serbian President will do anything for Novak, so it seems the Australian govt knew they couldn't trust the result but no way to prove it, so they played it safe and took a political stand instead.
@@bamssudardjo2572 As I have said even the Australian govt couldn’t prove the authenticity of his Covid result didn’t I? So what evidence are you asking? The partial evidences and sources are all over the internet, and if you keep an open mind observe, and read not just one but multiple sources and listen to both sides how they defend themselves and analyze the events, you will understand why Australia came up with the decision. I’m sure you too have slight doubts but you won’t admit it. And It’s okay.
@@bamssudardjo2572 Exactly, it became a political reason for lack of evidences but as I have said, Oz gov had lots of doubts bcoz of the inconsistencies and evidences he was healthy and out, and travelled within iso period. If he had Covid in Dec. 16 and had no vaxx- his isolation period is 2-3weeks supposedly. But he travelled to Spain was already spotted practicing in Dec. 31 in Marbella in the span of 2weeks. He didn’t do isolation and if he were concerned at all to other people while he travelled IF indeed he had Covid. It was a lot of inconsistencies but people believed he was just careless apparently. But his tests documents were confirmed by his country, who can confirm otherwise? So the excuse that the Oz gov came right in front of them, the rise of Antivaxx sentiments instead. Is he a man of integrity? I have doubts.
@@bamssudardjo2572 When Novak admitted he didn’t want vaxx for himself he already took a political stand. Vaxx is both a medical as well as political issue all governments are facing, and Yes it the politics that kick him out. Justice was served to Novak by being deported. He thought he can get away with it.
Nole is the man!
Nadal was first in line to get his jab and won AO in Nole’s absence and when asked about Nole he said that rules are rules , 1 and a half year later and Nole won AO back ,overtook Nadal in slams, is back at world no.1 while Nadal is retired and barely able to play tennis , i just love how karma works!!!!
I'm struggling with Nole's son rooting for Rafa🐐🃏
I love it, and I love Novak’s choice to tell that story!
It's not surprising when the words that Novak used to describe Rafa to his son were - "The guy who hits the ball really hard." Lol
I'm sure that is part of what enticed him. 😆 🤣 😂
Amy, with all due respect, this story of Djokovic is more in line with Muhammed Ali, but has NOTHING to do with Michael Jordan deciding to play baseball.
Here’s what they have in common: The #1 player in a sport steps away from that sport for a personal reason.
@@amylundy8664 Here's what I think they do not have in common: Ali made a choice affecting his personal life for outward, non-personal reasons. Djokovic made a choice affecting his personal life for a personal reason.
Novak isn’t just playing for the game and love for tennis, don’t believe it for one moment. He wants to be the GOAT. He still believes he can be the GOAT due to his longevity belief. I agree that being no.1 is not critical anymore, as it is unlikely anyone will break that record. But he wants the most slams!
Can’t it be a combination of both?
He is the GOAT!
@@grahamhall247 24 and so much more.
You don't have to agree with his stance on vaccines to respect his choice
He doesnt care about the people around him. There is NOTHING about this that is respectful. He puts others in danger. Period.
@@jrsdsu1986 you wouldn't say that about someone who can't take the vaccine for medical reasons
@@Seanocearbhaill Your point? Novak isn't in that situation. He just chooses not to talk the vaccine. Without any good reason. Without any evidence that it would harm him. He's just a fool, and he has repeatedly put others in potential danger. The vaccines have saved millions of lives worldwide.
@@jrsdsu1986 Whether someone puts others at danger is an empirical fact. If he is a danger by not being vaccinated then all people who aren't are a danger too.
Consider why you deem their level of danger different when they're not.
@@Seanocearbhaill uh... huh? please start making sense. your logic is completely broken.
I am with Novak. Kudos Novak for sticking for your principles and beliefs! The lady missed the point of Novak. Novak mentioned, long term consequences, that mean years ahead, not weeks ahead (her reference to Rafa).
She did make reference to a drug for women in 70s and decade later was found out causing birth defection.
@@achaindia She did, but then contradicted her stance. It happens, people are conflicted regarding the mandate of vaccination
Novak is more than a tennis game. He's the one in a hundred years who comes and shakes things up.
I said it once, I said it 46 times, Amy is a total babe. What a hottie. Love the show too. All three of you have incredible tennis insights and acumen and a great deal of journalistic integrity. Keep up the great work guys. You are like the Three Wise Men of tennis shows.
Haha Thanks Alex 😄
This comment is so dated no one will likely read it. I am an annoyingly huge Novak fan. I always wanted him to take the jab. My reasoning was very much along the lines of 'the common good' argument Amy alluded to. Serbia was one of the least vaccinated countries in the world. Novak, as their national hero, could have been the catalyst that had many of his countrymen and fans worldwide get vaccinated and save lives.
I am of course thrilled he is at 24 and almost 400 weeks #1.
Joel makes the most sense in this episode
Really good balanced discussion..there are no vaccine mandates in England at the moment so hopefully Wimbledon will be ok. Just wanted to add it is totally personal choice as the vaccines do not stop transmission..Nadal was quite ill with Covid before the AO, Sinner has had it straight after.
Thanks for the kind words, Joanne. Fingers crossed for Wimbledon.
He is THE GUY !!!
John wick of tennis.. He just WILL hunt down anybody on his way. He has traversed the toughest path to greatness unlike the 2 silver spoon kids of tennis.. Fedal.
But to me.. That's why i began to admire him more than rafa recently. Desperation has caught upto rafa and the cheap shots he takes towards novak have truly exposed rafa s true character in the recent times.
And novak on the contrary.. Novak has retained his class.. Even more with greater the adversaries.
Kk you expect Raphael to lose the final to prove he's not desperate. Or he should have careless completely about coming to Australia bcos novak is not playing. What are u saying.
@@sesanjoseph8805 not about this title at all. Rafa realized he cant win novak on court and recently is using crooked off the court character assassination tactics by unnecessarily talking about peers. He should either stand neutral about some things which he may not necessarily have complete idea on or the thought process of other tennis players. Instead rafa is engaging in unnecessary war of words using media as his support. Tat is NOT the rafa i used to ADMIRE. 😔
@@guruk totally agree. Very true! Rafa is awful how he makes those snide remarks about Novak. So childish and mean-spirited .
@@sesanjoseph8805 ignorant comment
He is playing chess and let's see what happens, the French may be missing, but if Rafa wins, he's back, I'm a Rafa fan, but I'm with Novak on this
Good observation, and tennis players tend to be good at chess ♟
@@amylundy8664 Amy I can't believe it's you, yes we have something in common I discovered that a while back you three are interesting in different aspects of the game but when it comes to psychology you know what you're talking about it's an honor that you answer me muchas gracias.
🎮🕹😁
Rafa had chest pain, difficult breathing. 1 step back 2 step forward.
Say what you will about his decisions whether you are his fan or not you gotta admit Djoker has principles and he stands by them no matter how prominent of a celebrity he becomes (while everyone out here is trying to be super PC and fake). If he is exercising his right to put what he wants into his body without forcing other people to act that way I can;t knock him
Of course there could be new information regarding the mRna vaccines in the long term! Most people who are hesitant refer to the absence of long term data; historically vaccine trials take a few years whereas these ones did not. You kind of insinuate that the only reason why he is waiting is that he thinks he still has a few years and hopefully his body will still be in peak condition, which somewhat slanders him? I think that he would have made the same decision, even if the prospect of him playing in any tournaments in the next few years was completely in doubt, but I may be wrong. I was never a Djokovic fan, but as many seem to be saying, I see a man who has his principals and who sticks to it - integrity, a rare trait in todays world and definately not an easy position to be in!!!!!
To label him stubborn would seem to me to be a childish sentiment. I think this issue is too big and too complicated - he is giving up A LOT to stick to his principals. Also to comment on the individual vs the common good - it can only be for the common good if it is effective at curtailing infection/transmission - does not seem to be the case, especially if the most highly vaccinated/boosted countries are exactly the countries with the highest infection rates (eg. Israel).
Good comments. Novak is a hero for having the courage of his convictions- he has the rarest of human qualities - COURAGE !
@@marlenebuls9535 Yep, and that comes about because he is a very conscious human being.
Extremely well said buddy, there is no difference in transmission and for anyone under 60 who is healthy the risk is not even 0.1% for now the fatality rate for under 60s is 0.1-0.15% which might go to 0.05% with vaccine but we don’t and we can’t know long term effects for now. I don’t know why people are ignoring this altogether
What an interesting discussion. Really enjoyed different points of view and possibilities how it can end for Novak. But yeah, as a fan of him, I'm really sad, I understand and respect his decision but still it hurts me a lot. I lean towards the opinion that he might regret it in the future, it kinda reminds of the situation back when he didn't want to undergo a sugery. But it is what is. If someone hasn't watched the interview yet, I'd recommend choosing audio version on Spotify or BBC website, because this TV version was edited and some thoughtful Nole's qouates were cut out. TV version lasted like 25 minut, but the original full interview was nearly 40 min long.
@Thoska Brah Yeah, I hope...
Was Waiting for this .. my 3 favourite people ❤️
Thanks 😊
Keep in mind that for a Djokovic-caliber public person, getting a vaxxed certification without actually taking the vax would come utmostly easy.
So... this is really only about Nole's wilfulness. That without which he wouldn't have won in Australia in 2012, and more likely still he wouldn't in Wimbledon, 2018 and 2019. And many other wins he's won.
That’s the point I’m constantly making!
Not to argue semantically, but I think willfulness is not the correct word because it has somewhat of a derogatory sense. I think steadfastness would be better because Novak is so often unwavering in the pursuit of his goal. Some may say stubbornness, but I prefer steadfastness. I guess it is a matter of opinion.
Thanks for noting that, the critical (not derogatory, I guess) shade of meaning to "wilful" had eluded my thought.
I'd go for steadfast or unyielding, then, or adamant.
Question: who decides 'the common good'?
Good question!!!
Fabulous analysis per usual. For me, I hope Djokovic returns to the tour ASAP. But, I also respect and support the national/tournament restrictions in place to help ensure crowd/population safety. If that means he has more difficulty to compete, then that is the reality we live in. We all have the freedom to make such choices for the most part - but those choices have consequences.
Well said. 👍
One of the best Tennis talk shows🙏. And apologies Gill for a slightly cold comment yesterday. i was taken over by impulse.
Before Australia open, l thought Djokovic could win most grand slams among the male players and he could break Steffi Graf 's record of 377 weeks of being world number one. After his interview, I don't know whether he can achieve those l have mentioned as above. I hope he will be able to play in the grand slams.
Or even that if he does play them, if he will able to achieve what we all thought he might. His game may be off for a while as he recovers from all this and I don't just mean the time away. Ultimately I am pulling for him to roar back.
@@jwbrandt70 He may not be allowed to play in any grand slam if France , England and USA requires any players to get vaccination to come to the countries, unless he changes his mind and get vaccination.
I am not trying to judge who is right or wrong. I respect individual's decision as well as counties' rules.
Both, done and dusted!
Such a great discussion, loved it! Thanks for doing it.
One point on Djokovic's stand on this vaccination topic.. Has any of you seen his podcast with Wim Hof, the Dutchman? I have watched it, I think he is influenced by it, and thinks his immune system is better then this vaccine...
most healthy peoples immune system is better than the vaccine....
@@irinilala6308 yep! Those athletes especially dont need the V.
And he’s right.
There was an episode of Dr John Campbell on his RUclips channel where he broke down the stats and showed natural immunity is proven to be MORE effective than this particular vax. He is followed by millions of people (more than the BBC - who wanted to monitor him - surprise, surprise).
Sooo .... ????
If you discuss about vaccines or unvaccine regarding covid 19, you should add one more person in this group such as a scientist. That will be fair. Because you all lack of knowledge in this area. He is already got covid. He has natural immunity better than vaccines.
I guess you missed our show a few episodes back with the doctor?
@@amylundy8664 thanks for the info... I guess I missed that episode
WOW! Did not expect this strong conviction win out based on Novak's having gotten surgery after he DID NOT WANT to have surgery for his career and legacy. It's only when our convictions and principals are tested, that we really know! Looks like I was mistaken. Nole has picked his Principals over Politics and career Play in 2022. He will drop from being #1 sometime in the next few weeks/month & then miss the remainder of the 2022 season GS’s. Let’s see what Wimbledon, Roland Garros & Flushing Meadow decide about their rules ~ I’m prognosticating 90/10 or 95/5 that all players will have to be vaxed in 2022 for the remaining 3 GS’s competitions. Needing more information does not seem relevant unless we look at Immunology, Epidiomolgy & clinical issues with RNA-based vax's versus classical vax's which will require years/decades of data to unpack. The human immue system and I believe natural immunity will ALWAYS be superior. That said, vaccines have been crucial in keeping people alive and keeping people from getting rerally ill. Thanks, Amy, Joel & Gill for this wonerful discussion on many levels. Always Best, Milan
Really appreciate your comments as always Milan! 🙏🏻
@@amylundy8664 TY Amy. Be well and keeping on rokin' that passion - love what you'all bring to the table - always grand stuff :)
Shoulder surgery and untested vaxx completely different things.
24 slams, approaching 400 weeks as world #1. GOAT
Fantastic, honest analysis.
Thank you! That’s what we’re going for !!!
It's going to be very dissappointing for tennis if this is how the goat race finishes.
the GOAT race is already finished. and it is not Nadal.
Its finished as of now. Rafa is the goat
@@chocosquirrel3319 Never in a million years could a clay merchant be the GOAT. Lol
@Coefficient of restitution Difference of one major doth not maketh the GOAT. Novak has a way more complete profile. Most weeks at No 1 (360)>Rafa's 209. Won all 9 Master's 1000 titles, which Rafa hasn't. And won them twice. Only one to win 4 Grand Slams in a row on three different surfaces. But sure, for casual tennis fans like you, 21>20 is all that matters. I can understand that.
@Coefficient of restitution 13 +4+2+2. = Claydal.
I appreciate, respect the importance of the decision from Nole, however I honestly think he already sees that by the time Wimbledon or French are scheduled most likely the mandatory vaccination will it be a thing.
He's had COVID already!!!
I am listening these three people.... and I can`t believe that so intelligent people can be so shallow. No matter how analytic these people are, regarding tennis, their life analytics are so superficial!
why not talk about jeremy chardy? not everyone is nadal
Jeremy Chardy's case should get more attention - as should natural immunity which is being ignored
Medvedev s monologue after ao finals is not heat of the moment. It has been happening from so long.
First layer is big 3... Especially fedal favoritism.
2nd layer is the western vs eastern europe bias.. Unfortunately its true... And to be honest.. I am from india and nothing to do with any kind of a bias... But from a neutral stand point and following tennis from about 3 decades.. I can confirm that bias.. In tennis and in media.. Thete is this unsaid favoritism.
Only when slams are not limited to 4 western europe predominant countries... And when slams are promoted and organised across the world is when we will get some balance... But for now i understand.. Its business.. Bottom line is to cater to the audience and the audience is western europe dominant countries.
But ask me or even fedal fans, if its fair !!?? Naaaa... It aint and sadly.. fedal fans know it too ☺️
Interesting comment Guru Ji and i largely agree with this comment. NATO versus non NATO country players get entirely different coverage.
They make Russians the villains in all the movies as well.
Is Novak the Mohammed Ali of our times? I think so
This interview had duration of 39min. Only 24min was streamed. They cut some important parts out!
i agree, that Djokovic has time on his side. Unlike Federer and Nadal, he might have more active years of playing excellent. And he is good on all surfaces. i als think that the pandemic has changed because of Omicron, and the international rules will be less stringent.
i disagree with those who say that Djokovic should be admired for his adamant rejection of the vaccine. Getting vaccinated is more than a personal choice because the vaccine helps to get a handle on the pandemic,.and Novak seems to have a very strained reationship with the natural sciences.
I got 3 shots , still i got the covid.
Different people have different reaction with medicine and vaccine. Don't pigeonhole in one box. I have a lot of allergies and I am very cautious about what I put in my body. Remember Chardy regrets having the vaccine after experiencing adverse effects from the vaccine.
When I heard that Djokovic was going on the BBC, I thought he was changing career to something else. If people here get what I mean.
We've had 3 big 3s: (1) Emerson, Laver and Rosewall; (2) Borg, Connors and McEnroe; (3) Federer, Nadal and Djokovic. Maybe our very own Big Three, Gill, Amy and Joel, will do a show who is the GOAT big 3. The battle of the big 3s! 🙂
I like it 😀
Let him play - Covid sucks !
Amy was referring to Thalidomide
Yes
@@amylundy8664 being an orthopaedist I have seen many cases... devastating congenital deformities... 😞
Amy, the more I listen to you, the clearer it is that you do not understand what is really going on in our world.
Haha 😂
Probably not.
Favorite screen name here 🥇😀👍👌
ND is raging against the machine... “fuck you I wont do what ya tell me”
your problem is you all became cowards,so when you come across a free man it irritates you, you are angry that you are not free like Novak to say what you think and do.Unlike him, you court your master, you support the stronger.
You are afraid that you may not be stupid, you are afraid that you have not become slaves, that is why Novak is guilty and a legend.
The Monte Carlo tournament is actually in France.
😂😂😂😂😂
Thought it was in the country of Monaco lol
This topic still has a lot of chatter, especially after Novak just gave his first interview about the AO debacle. What bothers me is people, who support Novak's decision, are saying the other tennis players are "sheep" "followers" "weak" for taking the vaccine. That really bothers me. Perhaps just a few players did get vaccinated so they can play in tournaments (I actually don't know if any did) but there are players who actually believe in medical science and chose to take the vaccine based on that belief. Just because Novak chose a certain path doesn't make him smarter, wiser or more intelligent from someone who took a different path. The bottom line is; there are people who want this pandemic to end and they also believe in medical science. Stop labeling those people are "sheep" or any other derogatory term.
stop labeling people in general...
Not labeling anyone, but before the Australian Open announced that vaccination will be required only about 60% of the players were vaxxed. The rest of 40% did it because they had to.
Agree with Andy!
@@irinilala6308 very well explained my friend.
Except vaccines do not stop the spread and they cannot end the pandemic. Look at Singapore which had more that 95% of its citizens vaccinated and they had their biggest outbreak ever in November. And Gibraltar and so on. Professional athletes are at an extremely low risk from covid especially if they already have natural immunity. So yes i do not quite understand why other players who already had natural immunity chose to get vaccinated. They do seem like followers or worse they lack some critical thinking.
Calling @gold wolf 🐺👍
I know I have said this but watch yourself, Jo! Do not ramble on!
Gill 23:57. Joel finds how to criticize Rafa. Convince me to spend time listening to 3
Greatest in tennis should not just be based on the slams. Connors won 109 singles titles.
What is your reflection on tis video a year later?
I have the highest regard & respect for him for taking the correct stance against this vaccine!
With Federer injured , Novak not able to play and Nadal playing a limited number of tournaments, may be its time to expand 3 to 5 otherwise this podcast could get a bit boring as there's not a lot to discuss.
Jo really needs to remind himself to let the other 2 talk more. You may have a point but let the other 2 participate more. It gets to a point where it is irritating, perhaps not just to some listeners but for the other 2 as well.
Joel: So. Europe. The tour. Business as usual. What? No one buys your spiel. walk away
Novak may get his wish. The Covid numbers are going down. He probably will not get to play the sunshine double but after that we will see. This is the best tennis show on RUclips. No offense to Joel and Gil but Amy is my favorite 🤩
Thanks Speedy 🏎
@@amylundy8664 - Thank YOU Amy as well as Joel and Gil for making this show fun to watch.
Joel: You're stinking. You have no right to openly and publicly opine in this way. Your biases are yours. Quit treating us like dummies. You have no warmth. You do not feel warm. You are cold
After seeing the full interview (versus the two clips in the original article) I believe the interviewer did an excellent job overall. I'm still quite mixed about Novak's sharing in this interview. He still seems emotionally disconnected. I mean if McEnroe and Connors went up in arms with the goings ons in Australia this year, then one would think Novak would have something to say. If I'm right, when he comes back he may not be at his best. And if one looks at Nadal still being around, how much FAA has improved in such a short time, and Medvedev continuing to grow, Novak maybe ought not assume he can just take more slams at all. All that said I'm a huge Djokovic fan and want to see him continuing to shine! Some editing going on in this episode? So curious how the show got cut and re-started just after Amy discussed briefly her decision to get fully vaccinated herself. Amy was kind of giggling upon the resumption so trying to guess how it got cut there and why. 🙂
Censorship reigns supreme. Even these guys on 3 understand they could get axed.
Sure. I’ll tell you. For one thing I got a dry throat at the end there & was trying not to cough 😷🤣
Secondly, the 3 of us agreed before the show that we didn’t want to re-litigate Novak’s Australian drama because we did several shows on that in January. That said, our show is unscripted. Gill posed a question about Alex Hawke. I made the comment that I thought it was pretty clear Novak would not “stir anti-vax sentiment” … so we ended up going back to Australia, which we really did not intend to do. Too much else to discuss. I quickly steered the conversation back to future tournaments, and that’s where we picked it back up.
@@amylundy8664 Thanks Amy! Very interesting. Makes total sense.
Hasn't Novak moved to Spain? Mallorca? And is no longer a resident of Monte Carlo?
Djokovic lives in Belgrade where his kids go to school. He trains part time in Spain.
@@j.t.8096 thanks for the info 👍
Meddy Bear is a softy 😂!!!! “I’m not playing for the fans anymore” 😂!!! Fedal are the Fan’s Favorites. Just accept it and earn your dues. GOATdal used to be the villain when playing Federer, but he has become the fans other half favorite now.
Djokovic and Nadal get equal support when they play each other. Just watch 2018 Wimbledon,2021 RG. Hell in atp cup 2020 Djokovic was getting more support than Rafa nadal. Djokovic also got support against Medvedev in us open 2021. Everyone get support against Medvedev
@@rishbahpandey8697 ATP 2020 cup was filled with serbians lol watch the match again.
So sad to rofans roger fans if roger retired soon.. what they will do ???? Crying.. may be 🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
@@bamssudardjo2572 he is Rafa fan
Rafa for more than 18 years not even get 1 single title . ATP final. + Miami + Shanghai + paris open = zero titles . How come he became the GOAT ?? 😇😇😇😇😇😇😂
There is only big 2 . Fed is done
Drucker: As a fellow American or yours said, and I refer to the Patrician Gore Vidal, funny how Jews were, before the invention or Israel, all for the working class and the rights of the collective to help the individual, but after, all for the far far right, and not at all for what Djok's disregard for the greater good. Howe shameful of your guest, Gill.
Joel D: No longer the wild west. You support wanton behaviour at your own cost.
What "stuff", Joel Druker, At 24:35. What are you going on about. You cannot convince us, or me, we who are of an otherwise opinon. I resent your showcasing on this platform and minding zilch about the rest of us, who care what supposed tennis minds feel about issues we care about.
This is the most useless or pointless discussion on tennis as it is actually not about tennis.
Amy: So Sorry some neds did not work out, BUT. In the 70s even in your country, government directed its3elf for the people's good. No longer. What side are you going to be on?
This saga has dragged on and most people don’t care anymore. It’s his choice, he knows the current covid rules of each country. These rules may change but if they don’t relax the rules he is risking being out 2 more slams. Tennis lives without Novax.
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The whole thing just makes me sad
Never seen so much nonsense. A la Aaron Rogers. Great tennis player but everything else is a turn off.
Gill: Not sure why... Although I always sensed Drucker's biases. Anyway, it's by far your worst podcast of "3". Honestly, let's put this behind us. I am tired of hearing hearoic talk about a LOSER and POOR SPORT as is Djok. If youo don't find the balance, then I'm not with you
Biased discussion from 3 pro-vaccine perspectives
Gill: Episode 78 is the first time I have hated your broadcast. First time I have picked up on racist/nasty/totalitarian/jingoistic tendencies from you all. I am ashamed by what I hear from you three. It's an embarrassment.
HOW CAN YOU RBROADCAST HATRED?
I’m terribly disappointed in Novak’s decision, but it is his body. No one wants to see the Big 3 end this way.
Thanks Sue. Hopefully it won’t.
Not everyone persevering on something is right, one can persevere on stupidity and for me this is the case
I respect Novak as a tennis player. I accept that it's his choice whether or not to be vaccinated. But let's be real here: the 'sacrifice' he's making is to refuse a life-saving vaccine that 40% of the world's population hasn't even been given a chance to access. I used to root for Novak most of the time, but I doubt I will any more. Whether he likes it or not, Novak is a public figure, and people are going to be influenced by his decision, which may not be anti-vax in the strictest sense, but definitely flies in the face of the abundant scientific information we have. Some things are more important than tennis, including public health. When this pandemic ends (hopefully soon), it will be no thanks to him. He's taking a principled stand no doubt, but in my opinion it's a wrong one, and will cause harm.
Great episode Amy, Joel, Gill... enjoyed the discussion.
a life saving vaccine??? 🤣🤣🤣
@a2dsousa Thanks for your thought-provoking post. Based on a few of the posts here, you definitely have a point.
Totally disagree - this is not a real vaccine - it does not prevent you from getting the virus, but helps those with compromised immune systems to recover from it. It is not necessary at this stage for Novak to risk getting the vaccine. FYI at this stage the vaccine is pretty much useless against the present variant- Omicron. The pandemic is now an endemic and as Novak has natural immunity, he does not need the vaccine. He is totally capable of making an informed decision.
yes, now we know, that Novak is (arrogantly) sure, that he will be winning majors after the pandemic is over, so he can wait. I respect his integrity and his resolve and his belief in himself, but ultimately what it shows me is that he thinks of himself as a kind of superman and that may backfire big time. just for disclosure: I'm a fan of Novak's tennis, I'm not a fan of Novak's personality.
see, I didn't want to take a shot, but I was forced to if I wanted to keep my job. Novak has the luxury to wait and see. maybe better vaccine, maybe covid retreat, whatever, but it doesn't resonate well with people who do not have this luxury. it all goes down with this. Novak is strongly believing, that in say, 2 years' time he will be winning majors and Rafa will not. that, in my opinion, is his reasoning and he might be right and he might be wrong. only time will tell.
big 3 competing at the same major again? Wimbledon if we are lucky, the US open if we are very lucky.
I am a fan of his tennis and even more of his personality....he is super human (more real than you can imagine for now) and a very conscious human being.
If you are vaccinated, why are you worried? Don't you trust the vaccine to protect you? Novak would be the safest person to be around - he has strong natural immunity. Why aren't you talking about that, or the young athletic guys who have died from myocarditis after getting the vaccine. Novak is the smart one for not being a sheep and a bully like so many .
Why won't anyone ask Djokovic why he won't take the vaccine? We don't know his reasons.
because he is not an idiot.
Have you seen the ingredients in this garbage vaccine? Pure poison!
He was asked about that and replied to the question. Watch the full interview with him, it's on youtube.
Coz he's Russian
They dope