Why do these dispensensationalists constantly harp about reading the Bible "literally", and then claim that the Old Testament references to the Kingdom - all of which say the kingdom is FOREVER - are actually referring to a Kingdom that lasts only 1000 years?
Ezekiel 40-48 sounds the death knell of amill- interpretations of Scripture. God's spoke these 9 chapters as an excellent outline of the Millennial days when Christ will sit on his glorious throne, David and the believing nation of Israel is resurrected, the tribes have the land allotments, the mountain of the Lord becomes the highest place in the world, the river of life explodes out of the throne to revive the Mediterranean and the dead seas, and the sacrifices outlined in Ezekiel (not in Mosaic practice) will make the Temple of the Lord the Long Horns Steak House of the Millennium! Jesus removed sin for our salvation, and world redemption, but the theocratic context of the nation of Israel will require those who are not in resurrected bodies to have ritual purification and fellowship offerings, and Daniel tells us how long after the tribulation this will take to set up!
It isn't that Jesus Christ merely removed the NECESSITY of sacrifices. It's that Jesus Christ eliminated them entirely, they are now an abomination. Ezekiel 40-46 never once states that this temple will be built in a millennial time. It is a blueprint for the temple that God wanted the children of Israel to build in Ezekiel's day. Ezekeil 43:10 says "Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern." The point in showing Ezekiel this blueprint was for Israel to see their wickedness that had caused God to scatter them among the nations. God wanted them to build this temple when they came back to the land. At the very least, God wanted to show them the temple HE intended to have. The very last thing we should do is assume this temple will be built in the post-cross era. It's entirely begging the question and an abomination.
***** If you can produce a shred of Biblical evidence for your statement I will be glad to hear it. Conversely I can produce a number of verses that say the opposite of your claim.
***** Thanks for the link to a third party nonbiblical source that is heavily biased toward a dispensational viewpoint. I was hoping for even a shred of BIBLICAL proof that Ezekiel even hints that a "millennial kingdom temple" will be built.
***** I am NOT LOOKING FOR ANSWERS....I know them. I am proving that the doctrines taught by McGee and others are wrong. YOU SHOW ME SIR WHERE EZEKIEL EVER SAYS ONE SINGLE WORD ABOUT THE KINGDOM OR A 1000 YEAR TIME PERIOD. JUST ONE.
It certainly could be that temple, and there is no way to prove that it wasn't. Conversely there is no way to back up (Biblically) that this is a future temple built during a so-called "millennial reign of Christ", especially when the New Testament explicitly states, over and over, that Christ's death eliminated the need for a temple building, that the buildings were shadows and types of the REAL temple...Jesus: Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. What part of "greater and more perfect" do these dispies NOT GET????? What part of "not made with hands" do dispies NOT UNDERSTAND???? Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: This verse explicitly states that Jesus Christ is RIGHT NOW in heaven itself, which is the true...and the temple building was nothing more than a FIGURE.....again....WHAT DO DISPIES NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS CLEAR EXPLICIT LANGUAGE???????????
you goof! During the Millennium there will be many millions (possibly billions) of people who survived the Tribulation... including Jewish priests who turned to Christ and believed in Him. I believe they will be known as the Zadokians. (Ezek. 44:15)
The main accusation against non dispensationalism is that we have to read our ideas into the text. Even if there is a millennium, if you think animal sacrifices will take place, you have to read into it, in order to find a reason why. So you come up with the idea its a replacement for the Lord's Supper. Unless you can show me scripture that shows that, you have read something into the text, to make it fit into your theology. And it means you have to take a low view of the Lord's Supper, and presuppose that is only a memorial amd symbolic, and not a gift from Christ as a means of grace.
This preacher said to spiritualize the Bible is the most damnable thing that has come to the church... But Jesus came to do exactly that. Jesus said we are Spirit beings not us this world if we are born of God. Jesus made spiritual what did pertain to the physical. Jesus said that His blood was real drink and His flesh is real food.
This is the wine of Babylon. And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, *that he should deceive the nations no more* till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. {Revelation 20:1-3} --Are there still temptations and sin in this world? Yes! So satan is not yet chained in chains of circumstance. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, *and judgment was given unto them* and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and *which had not worshipped the beast neither his image neither had received his mark upon their foreheads or in their hands* and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. {Revelation 20:4} --The test of the mark of the beast has not come to pass, so the thousand years is yet still a future event in the plan of salvation. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. *This is the first resurrection* Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such *the second death hath no power* but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. {Revelation 20:5} --"the rest of the dead" because the living ungodly have been destroyed by the brightness of Christ second coming and His saints have been either resurrected or transformed in his likeness in a twinkling of an eye. Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus will raise up us also by Jesus, and will present us with you. {2 Corinthians 4:14} To the end [objective] he may establish your hearts unblameable in holiness *before* God, even our Father, *at the coming* of our Lord Jesus Christ *with all his saints* {1 Thessalonians 3:13} ^ Our Father who art in heaven.
Some of the present day jews ie the Sanhedrian, want to rebuild the Temple on the Temple Mount. I wonder if it will be according to the Temple in Ezekiel?
The temple of Ezekiel was the temple built by the exiles when they returned to Babylon. It is stated in Ezek. 43:18-19 that Ezekiel himself would be the first to offer sacrifices on that altar on the day that altar is built. Ezekiel was only alive at the initial construction of the second temple and that leaves us with no other temple that would fit the Scripture.
@@YeshuabenJoseph big problem with this: The Jews who came back did not build according to ezekiel's prophecy, and nowhere do we read that Ezekiel was present during the rededication of the altar. Why? Because this is purely in the future.
Often in the Bible there is a shadow of what it will be like later. For example, the “Little Horn” in Daniel is compared to Antiochus Epiphanes, and many of the empires, such as Babylon being compared to (surprise) the end times Babylon. The temple build by Zerubabbel was a shadow of the temple in the future. Just wanted to put this in here, I encourage anyone to do their own research
It makes sense that they are re-instituted in the Millenial Kingdom instead of communion. Communion is the Bridal cup in the Passover (4th cup, "I will take you to Me"), so the Millenial Kingdom Saints can't take that cup as commemoration because the wedding has already happened.
When the Feasts are laid out in the OT there is this KEY verse that give us our answer as to WHY animal sacrifices: And this day shall be unto you for a memorial and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance ***FOREVER*** Exodus 12:14 The sacrificial feast is a memorial, its ***FOREVER*** And its the same in Lev 23:41 for the feast of tabernacles, its ****FOREVER**** There is still death in the Millennial reign so animals will still be sacrificed on the feast days as laid out in Ezekiel. There will be far less death, but it does not go away until the NHNE. Then there will be feast days with no sacrifice because NO DEATH You can't kill an animal if there is no more death, and there is no more death in the New Heavens and Earth. But the feasts will be kept in Israel FOREVER as a memorial to Christ.
@@Bruce_Peters That is what a memorial is Bruce, it points to something special to remind us of it, in this case Christ. That is LITERALLY what my post said, they are a memorial that points to Christ.
@@Orange6921 No, they did point forward to Jesus, not backwards. When the real has come, there's no need for the type and shadow. That was pauls point. You dispys pervert the Gospel and want to go backwards. Too bad. God isn't going to do it.
@@Bruce_Peters Bruce, you deny there is even a Millennial reign at all. If anyone here is a liar perverting the Bible its YOU. This has NOTHING to do with the gospel or Christians in the church age. We are talking about events that happen AFTER the church age, AFTER the 2nd coming. How many time have you been told this now? Your a liar bearing false witness about what I have said. None of this applies to church age Christians at all. Go look in the mirror you liar. Its bad enough that you are totally ignorant of the OT law and sacrificial system, but to cover up your ignorance you have to flat out lie about what I posted.
The Old Testament sacrifices was the type and shadow of things to come. "The New Testament" revealed Christ when he died on the cross made an end...Cols chapter 2 14-17...blotting out these ordinances. This pre- mill teaching makes Christ witch is the substance, and would make Him the shadow again...brother and sisters, Christ will never come to die on the cross again...so those who would refuse the Gospel...also read the book of Galatians cup 2.
Seems like a nice guy, but his teaching is completely false doctrine. (Revelation 21:22) And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. These people do not understand Yeshuah's ways as they didnt understand it in the verses below. There were those that were expecting the literal back then also. People that believe this doctrine are the ones that will follow the anticrist when he sits in the new temple. (Galations 4: 25-26) For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. (Revelation 21:14, 19-20) And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst. (Mark 4:33-34) And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it. But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples. (Matthew 17:12) But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. (John 18:36) Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight. (John 4:21) Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. (Luke 17:21) Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. (John 2:19) Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days? (Exodus 3:8) And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey; (Jeremiah 30:9) But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
Oh good grief he is not saying there is a temple in the New Heavens and New Earth, he is saying there is a temple in the Millennial reign BEFORE the NHNE. The Millennial reign is NOT the NHNE. Satan is released at the end of the Millennial reign and deceives many into a rebellion and then is cast into the lake of fire forever. READ Revelation 20, its says this word for word. You either believe scripture or you don't.
A nice sincere preacher, but animal sacrifice just for a memorial? I don't think so (with respects). Even the Scripture, when referring to Ezekiel's Temple, says these sacrifices are for sin (Ezekiel 43:19, 44:29, 45:17) - "a sin offering," "to make reconciliation for the house of Israel." Also Ezekiel 45:23 - "a bullock for a sin offering" - not just a memorial. The Lord has no pleasure in burnt offerings, but they were necessary for sin until Christ came. But not for a memorial. I wonder if the Ezekiel Temple is set up BEFORE the Millennium, when God reconnects with the Jews, and He has to meet them where He left off, in the Law, when they were blinded for our sake? Then they receive Christ, the true Atonement ("Where did you get those wounds in your hands and feet?"). Then the antichrist ("the prince that is to come" in Daniel 9:27) stops the daily sacrifice in the middle of the 70th week, and thereafter there is no more need for animal sacrifice in the Millennium - for "they shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain."
Ezekiel's temple is said to be inaugurated by Ezekiel himself (Ezek. 43:18-19) and built by those who would see Ezekiel write out the temple design right before there eyes (Ezek. 43:10-11). This could only be referring to the second temple which was built by the exiles that returned from Babylon in 536 BC. The temple that is mentioned in Dan. 9 also is clearly stated to be the second temple. The beginning of that chapter has Daniel weeping over the absence of the 1st temple and anticipates the fulfillment of Jeremiah's words that after 70 years of exile in Babylon, the temple would be rebuilt. After his prayer, the angel Gabriel comes to give him a prophecy that anticipates the coming temple and rebuilding of Jerusalem along with a timeline that lasts only 490 years until the coming desolations and wars that would finally end that temple. That timeline is told to Daniel to begin at the "issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem". This has a number of possible starting points but all of them begin this timeline in the 6th or 5th century BC which means that the end of this prophecy must conclude 490 years later in either the 1st century BC or 1st century AD. Therefore, this prophecy is not talking about our future today.
@@gustavmahler1466 David was already dead at the time of Ezekiel's writings. This would indicate a descendant of David in the passages you listed above not David himself.
The scriptures specifically state that we shall rule and reign WITH Christ for 1000 years. Revelation 5 9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; 10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and👉 we shall reign on the earth.👈
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, *that he should deceive the nations no more* till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. {Revelation 20:1-3} --Are there still temptations and sin in this world? Yes! So satan is not yet chained in chains of circumstance. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, *and judgment was given unto them* and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and *which had not worshipped the beast neither his image neither had received his mark upon their foreheads or in their hands* and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. {Revelation 20:4} --The test of the mark of the beast has not come to pass, so the thousand years is yet still a future event in the plan of salvation. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. *This is the first resurrection* Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such *the second death hath no power* but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. {Revelation 20:5} --"the rest of the dead" because the living ungodly have been destroyed by the brightness of Christ second coming and His saints have been either resurrected or transformed in his likeness in a twinkling of an eye. Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus will raise up us also by Jesus, and will present us with you. {2 Corinthians 4:14} To the end [objective] he may establish your hearts unblameable in holiness *before* God, even our Father, *at the coming* of our Lord Jesus Christ *with all his saints* {1 Thessalonians 3:13} ^ Our Father who art in heaven.
@@larrybedouin2921 And I saw Thrones... And they sat upon them and judgement was given unto them... 👈 This is the Church. This scripture fulfills 1Corinthians 6:3 The first resurrection mentioned in Revelation is the first in a new dispensation of time, just like the first resurrection of OT saints that took place after Jesus resurrected. Rapture ahead.... For Church Saints that have been saved by GRACE through Faith.
@@theleastofthese5369 The state of the dead, according to the word of God. But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof *thou shalt surely die* {Genesis 2:17} Man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he? ... So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their *sleep* O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, *until thy wrath be past* that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, 👉till my change come. ... His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them. {Job 14:10, 12-14 & 21} And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in *my flesh* shall I see God. {Job 19:26} Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, *nor knowledge nor wisdom* in the grave, whither thou goest. {The Preacher 9:10} Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help. His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; *in that very day his thoughts perish* {Psalm 146:3-4} Then said his disciples, Lord, if he *sleep* he shall do well. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, "Lazarus is dead." {John 11:12-14} ... Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection 👉at the last day. Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet *shall* he live:" {John 11:24-25} But go thou thy way till the end be: for *thou shalt rest* and stand in thy lot *at the end of the days* {Daniel 12:13} For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *should not perish* but have everlasting life. {John 3:16} And *the serpent said* unto the woman, *Ye shall not surely die* {Genesis 3:4} Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down *in the midst of the stones of fire* {Ezekiel 28:14} ^ (satan always turns the tables on God, for he is the father of lies.) The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. *Who* among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? *He that walketh righteously and speaketh uprightly he that despiseth the gain of oppressions that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil* {Isaiah 33:14-15} If anyone errors in their understanding of this doctrine of the dead, then they will in no way be led to the understanding of the truth, for it will be a stumblingblock unto the decernment of spiritual things, including soilterology and eschatology.
Prince cannot be Christ Jesus, because here the prince had to make sacrifice for himself and others. Christ already ripped the vail once and for all between man and God. Christ will not again to come back to reinstitute the old covenant once again.
Ezekiel 45 9, "princes", not singular not the Messiah. The temple is New Jerusalem which comes from heaven (Rev 21, Isaiah 65). God is showing Ezekiel the temple as it was back then (45 before second temple time) but the one in heaven in order for him to copy it. We know from Hebrews 8 5 that Moses also copied the tabernacle and all the ceremonial instruments from what he saw was in heaven.
Hmmm...I'm a huge J. Vernon fan but this sure doesn't sound right. He makes the point that all sacrifice BEFORE Christ points TO Christ but then makes the case for animal sacrifice in the millennial kingdom as remembrance or memorial. Why in the Sam Hill would we need to be reminded of animal sacrifice? We are reminded of Christ's sacrifice on an active basis in the millennium because HE IS THERE with us! Re-focusing on animal sacrifice seems like it minimizes Christ's sacrifice and, so, would seem to be an abomination. Anyway, God took no joy in sacrifice as Samuel tells us from WAY back at the time of the first king of Israel (Saul): “Has the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to listen than the fat of rams. (1 Samuel 15:22) Also, if this is the millennial temple then who is the prince? Sounds an awful lot like a human political leader and certainly not like Christ. Christ is clearly the Shepard in Ezekial's Ch. 34, 36 and etc. A huge part of Israel's apostasy beginning with Solomon was that the leaders (kings) were themselves worshiping idols and leading the people away. The active involvement of the prince in Ezekial's vision at the temple sounds like a way to keep that from happening again. My small mind landed on that this sounds like what Zerubbabel's/Herod's temple was supposed to have been after the return from Babylon but that those returning didn't keep to God's instruction. I see many of you feel the same. I'm gonna stick with that until someone shows me some Scripture I'm missing. Bottom line is that my whole focus will ever be on the horrible, perfect and ULTIMATE sacrifice made by our Lord...a sacrifice that I myself made necessary. "When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit (Jn 19:30)." It is finished....
@Steve Wright Jesus does say that until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle would pass away from the Law until all was accomplished. What we must understand today is that the sacrificial system, the priesthood, the temple, and many other "jots and tittles" have passed away from their usage today. This tells us that the Law has changed and we are no longer to follow the Law of Moses but a new Law in Christ. Hebrews 7:12 states "For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also."
@Steve Wright I understand what McGee is stating but the Scripture is clear that Jerusalem, the temple, the priesthood, and the sacrifices are all removed permanently. So then, this is contrary to McGee's teaching on the matter.
@Steve Wright The kingdom of God no longer has a location. When speaking about Jerusalem and its centralized worship, the writer of Hebrews says these words, "for here we do not have a lasting city..." (Heb. 13:14) Also, Paul speaks about two Jerusalem's in Galatians 4, one above and the one on earth. He clarifies on who belongs to each, those of the flesh are in slavery in the earthly Jerusalem and those of the Spirit are free in a heavenly Jerusalem. (Gal. 4:22-31) Lastly, Jesus himself points out in John 4 that no earthly kingdom would exist. He says, "an hour is coming when neither in this mountain (i.e. Gerazim) nor in Jerusalem shall you worship the Father...but an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth." (John 4:21,23) So then, if worship is not foreseen to be in Jerusalem then why would Jesus reign from that place?
@Steve Wright Debated? Not for hundreds of years. Commented on, yes, but not debated. The issue of Jerusalem has only recently been heavily debated with the return of Jews to the land of Israel in 1948.
Animal sacrifice right in the presence of Lord Jesus himself makes absolutely NO sense, even as a reminder. We have the Word of God as our "reminder". We will have Christ himself who will be on earth with us still bearing the nail prints from the cross. This isn't reminder enough!!?? Jesus told Thomas, that they are MORE blessed who believe and who have never seen.
This perspective does violence to the book Hebrews and our salvation. You can believe this and not be a heretic but it's starting you down the path to heresy. Christ died once for all to put an end to sacrace forever. Those sacrifices looked forward to the reality of christ and now that that full reality has come there is never again a need for animal sacrace, for in them is the memory of sin (Hebrews 10:3) the need for a memory of sin is one of the things Christ's death abolished. This dude is spouting bad theology. Heck of a preaching voice though lol
No more sacrifices today. Ezekiel's vision was in 25th year of captivity. 580bc 2nd temple was built in 516bc. Which is this Temple. Christ is the 3rd Temple. They tore His temple down but He rebuilt it in 3 days. Mgee was sadly mistaken. God is not a lier. No more need for sacrifices. I will believe God.
When the Feasts are laid out in the OT there is this KEY verse that give us our answer as to WHY animal sacrifices: And this day shall be unto you for a memorial and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance ***FOREVER*** Exodus 12:14 The sacrificial feast is a memorial, its ***FOREVER*** And its the same in Lev 23:41 for the feast of tabernacles, its ****FOREVER**** Not until the cross, not until the Messiah, but FOREVER Israel will keep these Holy convocations. That is what GOD decreed. There is still death in the Millennial reign so animals will still be sacrificed on the feast days as laid out in Ezekiel. There will be far less death, but it does not go away until the NHNE. Then there will be feast days with no sacrifice because NO DEATH You can't kill an animal if there is no more death, and there is no more death in the New Heavens and Earth. But the feasts will be kept in Israel FOREVER as a memorial to Christ.
Is it possible that this is a conditional temple, and a temple vision designed for them to be ashamed of their iniquities? To me this would make a lot of sense, vs a millennial temple and sacrifices after the coming of Christ. Ezekiel 43:10-11 (ESV): “As for you, son of man, describe to the house of Israel the temple, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities; and they shall measure the plan. 11 And if they are ashamed of all that they have done, make known to them the design of the temple, its arrangement, its exits and its entrances, that is, its whole design; and make known to them as well all its statutes and its whole design and all its laws, and write it down in their sight, so that they may observe all its laws and all its statutes and carry them out."
Good heavens. I’m just now hearing J Vernon endorsing the Scofield Bible.
YIKES!!!
Why do these dispensensationalists constantly harp about reading the Bible "literally", and then claim that the Old Testament references to the Kingdom - all of which say the kingdom is FOREVER - are actually referring to a Kingdom that lasts only 1000 years?
Good point!
what references? where does it say its a kingdom forever
Bogadile I'm glad you asked! Here is a sampling.
Exo 15:18, 2 Sam 7:12-13, 1Ki 2:45, 1Ki 9:5, 1Ch 17:12-14, 1Ch 22:10, 2Ch 13:5, Psa 10:16, Psa 45:6, Psa 89:4, Psa 89:29, Psa 89:36, Eze 37:25, Dan 2:44, Dan 7:18, Mic 4:7, Luk 1:31-33, Heb 1:8
wow you are right. but do u still believe in a millenial kingdom? so much is spoken of it
Bogadile No i do not. Nothing is spoken of a millennial kingdom.
Ezekiel 40-48 sounds the death knell of amill- interpretations of Scripture. God's spoke these 9 chapters as an excellent outline of the Millennial days when Christ will sit on his glorious throne, David and the believing nation of Israel is resurrected, the tribes have the land allotments, the mountain of the Lord becomes the highest place in the world, the river of life explodes out of the throne to revive the Mediterranean and the dead seas, and the sacrifices outlined in Ezekiel (not in Mosaic practice) will make the Temple of the Lord the Long Horns Steak House of the Millennium! Jesus removed sin for our salvation, and world redemption, but the theocratic context of the nation of Israel will require those who are not in resurrected bodies to have ritual purification and fellowship offerings, and Daniel tells us how long after the tribulation this will take to set up!
Talk of the Long Horns Steak House certainly whets my appetite for a tasty morsel
A sacrificial system would go completely contrary to a simple understanding of the book of Hebrews and the rest of the New Testament.
+Mesk Levae Yes, I know that He is the answer to everything but what are you implying?
What?
I am implying that there are no animal sacrifices in the future.
@@YeshuabenJoseph I hope so
Amen amen and amen..... Dispensationalism is killing the Church of God
It isn't that Jesus Christ merely removed the NECESSITY of sacrifices. It's that Jesus Christ eliminated them entirely, they are now an abomination. Ezekiel 40-46 never once states that this temple will be built in a millennial time. It is a blueprint for the temple that God wanted the children of Israel to build in Ezekiel's day. Ezekeil 43:10 says "Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern." The point in showing Ezekiel this blueprint was for Israel to see their wickedness that had caused God to scatter them among the nations. God wanted them to build this temple when they came back to the land. At the very least, God wanted to show them the temple HE intended to have.
The very last thing we should do is assume this temple will be built in the post-cross era. It's entirely begging the question and an abomination.
***** If you can produce a shred of Biblical evidence for your statement I will be glad to hear it.
Conversely I can produce a number of verses that say the opposite of your claim.
***** Thanks for the link to a third party nonbiblical source that is heavily biased toward a dispensational viewpoint. I was hoping for even a shred of BIBLICAL proof that Ezekiel even hints that a "millennial kingdom temple" will be built.
***** I am NOT LOOKING FOR ANSWERS....I know them. I am proving that the doctrines taught by McGee and others are wrong. YOU SHOW ME SIR WHERE EZEKIEL EVER SAYS ONE SINGLE WORD ABOUT THE KINGDOM OR A 1000 YEAR TIME PERIOD. JUST ONE.
Yes, the exiles built the 2nd temple after Ezekiel saw his vision. It was this temple that Ezekiel had in mind.
It certainly could be that temple, and there is no way to prove that it wasn't. Conversely there is no way to back up (Biblically) that this is a future temple built during a so-called "millennial reign of Christ", especially when the New Testament explicitly states, over and over, that Christ's death eliminated the need for a temple building, that the buildings were shadows and types of the REAL temple...Jesus:
Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
What part of "greater and more perfect" do these dispies NOT GET?????
What part of "not made with hands" do dispies NOT UNDERSTAND????
Heb 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
This verse explicitly states that Jesus Christ is RIGHT NOW in heaven itself, which is the true...and the temple building was nothing more than a FIGURE.....again....WHAT DO DISPIES NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS CLEAR EXPLICIT LANGUAGE???????????
Ezekiel 44:22 says that the priests will take wives that are virgins , Jesus said there's no marriage in heaven, so, hows this the millenium?
you goof! During the Millennium there will be many millions (possibly billions) of people who survived the Tribulation... including Jewish priests who turned to Christ and believed in Him. I believe they will be known as the Zadokians. (Ezek. 44:15)
The main accusation against non dispensationalism is that we have to read our ideas into the text. Even if there is a millennium, if you think animal sacrifices will take place, you have to read into it, in order to find a reason why. So you come up with the idea its a replacement for the Lord's Supper. Unless you can show me scripture that shows that, you have read something into the text, to make it fit into your theology.
And it means you have to take a low view of the Lord's Supper, and presuppose that is only a memorial amd symbolic, and not a gift from Christ as a means of grace.
This preacher said to spiritualize the Bible is the most damnable thing that has come to the church... But Jesus came to do exactly that.
Jesus said we are Spirit beings not us this world if we are born of God.
Jesus made spiritual what did pertain to the physical.
Jesus said that His blood was real drink and His flesh is real food.
This is the wine of Babylon.
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, *that he should deceive the nations no more* till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
{Revelation 20:1-3}
--Are there still temptations and sin in this world? Yes! So satan is not yet chained in chains of circumstance.
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, *and judgment was given unto them* and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and *which had not worshipped the beast neither his image neither had received his mark upon their foreheads or in their hands* and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
{Revelation 20:4}
--The test of the mark of the beast has not come to pass, so the thousand years is yet still a future event in the plan of salvation.
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. *This is the first resurrection*
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such *the second death hath no power* but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
{Revelation 20:5}
--"the rest of the dead" because the living ungodly have been destroyed by the brightness of Christ second coming and His saints have been either resurrected or transformed in his likeness in a twinkling of an eye.
Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus will raise up us also by Jesus, and will present us with you.
{2 Corinthians 4:14}
To the end [objective] he may establish your hearts unblameable in holiness *before* God, even our Father, *at the coming* of our Lord Jesus Christ *with all his saints*
{1 Thessalonians 3:13}
^
Our Father who art in heaven.
Some of the present day jews ie the Sanhedrian, want to rebuild the Temple on the Temple Mount. I wonder if it will be according to the Temple in Ezekiel?
The temple of Ezekiel was the temple built by the exiles when they returned to Babylon. It is stated in Ezek. 43:18-19 that Ezekiel himself would be the first to offer sacrifices on that altar on the day that altar is built. Ezekiel was only alive at the initial construction of the second temple and that leaves us with no other temple that would fit the Scripture.
@@YeshuabenJoseph AMEN
@@YeshuabenJoseph big problem with this:
The Jews who came back did not build according to ezekiel's prophecy, and nowhere do we read that Ezekiel was present during the rededication of the altar.
Why? Because this is purely in the future.
Often in the Bible there is a shadow of what it will be like later. For example, the “Little Horn” in Daniel is compared to Antiochus Epiphanes, and many of the empires, such as Babylon being compared to (surprise) the end times Babylon. The temple build by Zerubabbel was a shadow of the temple in the future. Just wanted to put this in here, I encourage anyone to do their own research
@@joshamaya196 What makes you so sure of this? What are you comparing between Ezekiel's temple and the 2nd temple?
It makes sense that they are re-instituted in the Millenial Kingdom instead of communion. Communion is the Bridal cup in the Passover (4th cup, "I will take you to Me"), so the Millenial Kingdom Saints can't take that cup as commemoration because the wedding has already happened.
When the Feasts are laid out in the OT there is this KEY verse that give us our answer as to WHY animal sacrifices:
And this day shall be unto you for a memorial and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance ***FOREVER*** Exodus 12:14
The sacrificial feast is a memorial, its ***FOREVER***
And its the same in Lev 23:41 for the feast of tabernacles, its ****FOREVER****
There is still death in the Millennial reign so animals will still be sacrificed on the feast days as laid out in Ezekiel. There will be far less death, but it does not go away until the NHNE. Then there will be feast days with no sacrifice because NO DEATH
You can't kill an animal if there is no more death, and there is no more death in the New Heavens and Earth. But the feasts will be kept in Israel FOREVER as a memorial to Christ.
@@Orange6921 Nonsense. The feasts themselves pointed to Jesus Christ. Paul even says so in Col 2:16.
@@Bruce_Peters That is what a memorial is Bruce, it points to something special to remind us of it, in this case Christ.
That is LITERALLY what my post said, they are a memorial that points to Christ.
@@Orange6921 No, they did point forward to Jesus, not backwards. When the real has come, there's no need for the type and shadow. That was pauls point.
You dispys pervert the Gospel and want to go backwards. Too bad. God isn't going to do it.
@@Bruce_Peters Bruce, you deny there is even a Millennial reign at all. If anyone here is a liar perverting the Bible its YOU. This has NOTHING to do with the gospel or Christians in the church age. We are talking about events that happen AFTER the church age, AFTER the 2nd coming. How many time have you been told this now?
Your a liar bearing false witness about what I have said. None of this applies to church age Christians at all.
Go look in the mirror you liar.
Its bad enough that you are totally ignorant of the OT law and sacrificial system, but to cover up your ignorance you have to flat out lie about what I posted.
The Old Testament sacrifices was the type and shadow of things to come. "The New Testament" revealed Christ when he died on the cross made an end...Cols chapter 2 14-17...blotting out these ordinances. This pre- mill teaching makes Christ witch is the substance, and would make Him the shadow again...brother and sisters, Christ will never come to die on the cross again...so those who would refuse the Gospel...also read the book of Galatians cup 2.
Amen brother! Christ will never be made the shadow. Well put!
In the Old testament it says that these sacrifices will be done forever as a memorial
@@Fluffimuff Your are right, but the New Testament Hebrews chp 10 Christ body was the supreme Sacrifice for all sin...and He lives for evermore.
@@Fluffimuff I would like to say, we take the communion that in remembrance of the sacrifice Christ enjoined to the believers.
Seems like a nice guy, but his teaching is completely false doctrine.
(Revelation 21:22)
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
These people do not understand Yeshuah's ways as they didnt understand it in the verses below. There were those that were expecting the literal back then also. People that believe this doctrine are the ones that will follow the anticrist when he sits in the new temple.
(Galations 4: 25-26)
For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
(Revelation 21:14, 19-20)
And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
And the foundations of the wall of the city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald; The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
(Mark 4:33-34)
And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it. But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
(Matthew 17:12)
But I say unto you, That Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed.
(John 18:36)
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight.
(John 4:21)
Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
(Luke 17:21)
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
(John 2:19)
Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
(Exodus 3:8)
And I am come down to deliver them out of the hand of the Egyptians, and to bring them up out of that land unto a good land and a large, unto a land flowing with milk and honey;
(Jeremiah 30:9)
But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
I don't think you can admonish Dr. McGee until you have you have a comparative positive influence for Jesus Christ in the late age of grace.
Exactly completely false
Oh good grief he is not saying there is a temple in the New Heavens and New Earth, he is saying there is a temple in the Millennial reign BEFORE the NHNE. The Millennial reign is NOT the NHNE. Satan is released at the end of the Millennial reign and deceives many into a rebellion and then is cast into the lake of fire forever. READ Revelation 20, its says this word for word.
You either believe scripture or you don't.
I don't think, el shekinah is not biblical
A nice sincere preacher, but animal sacrifice just for a memorial? I don't think so (with respects). Even the Scripture, when referring to Ezekiel's Temple, says these sacrifices are for sin (Ezekiel 43:19, 44:29, 45:17) - "a sin offering," "to make reconciliation for the house of Israel." Also Ezekiel 45:23 - "a bullock for a sin offering" - not just a memorial. The Lord has no pleasure in burnt offerings, but they were necessary for sin until Christ came. But not for a memorial.
I wonder if the Ezekiel Temple is set up BEFORE the Millennium, when God reconnects with the Jews, and He has to meet them where He left off, in the Law, when they were blinded for our sake? Then they receive Christ, the true Atonement ("Where did you get those wounds in your hands and feet?").
Then the antichrist ("the prince that is to come" in Daniel 9:27) stops the daily sacrifice in the middle of the 70th week, and thereafter there is no more need for animal sacrifice in the Millennium - for "they shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain."
Ezekiel's temple is said to be inaugurated by Ezekiel himself (Ezek. 43:18-19) and built by those who would see Ezekiel write out the temple design right before there eyes (Ezek. 43:10-11). This could only be referring to the second temple which was built by the exiles that returned from Babylon in 536 BC.
The temple that is mentioned in Dan. 9 also is clearly stated to be the second temple. The beginning of that chapter has Daniel weeping over the absence of the 1st temple and anticipates the fulfillment of Jeremiah's words that after 70 years of exile in Babylon, the temple would be rebuilt. After his prayer, the angel Gabriel comes to give him a prophecy that anticipates the coming temple and rebuilding of Jerusalem along with a timeline that lasts only 490 years until the coming desolations and wars that would finally end that temple. That timeline is told to Daniel to begin at the "issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem". This has a number of possible starting points but all of them begin this timeline in the 6th or 5th century BC which means that the end of this prophecy must conclude 490 years later in either the 1st century BC or 1st century AD. Therefore, this prophecy is not talking about our future today.
@@YeshuabenJoseph King David is the Messiah not Jesus Ezekiel 37:21-25 KJV Ezekiel 34:23,24 KJV Ezekiel 45:22 KJV
@@gustavmahler1466 David was already dead at the time of Ezekiel's writings. This would indicate a descendant of David in the passages you listed above not David himself.
@@YeshuabenJoseph Psalm 89:20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27 KJV
@@gustavmahler1466 the antichrist maybe
The scriptures specifically state that we shall rule and reign WITH Christ for 1000 years.
Revelation 5
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and👉 we shall reign on the earth.👈
And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, *that he should deceive the nations no more* till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
{Revelation 20:1-3}
--Are there still temptations and sin in this world? Yes! So satan is not yet chained in chains of circumstance.
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, *and judgment was given unto them* and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and *which had not worshipped the beast neither his image neither had received his mark upon their foreheads or in their hands* and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
{Revelation 20:4}
--The test of the mark of the beast has not come to pass, so the thousand years is yet still a future event in the plan of salvation.
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. *This is the first resurrection*
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such *the second death hath no power* but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
{Revelation 20:5}
--"the rest of the dead" because the living ungodly have been destroyed by the brightness of Christ second coming and His saints have been either resurrected or transformed in his likeness in a twinkling of an eye.
Knowing that he which raised up the Lord Jesus will raise up us also by Jesus, and will present us with you.
{2 Corinthians 4:14}
To the end [objective] he may establish your hearts unblameable in holiness *before* God, even our Father, *at the coming* of our Lord Jesus Christ *with all his saints*
{1 Thessalonians 3:13}
^
Our Father who art in heaven.
@@larrybedouin2921 And I saw Thrones... And they sat upon them and judgement was given unto them... 👈 This is the Church. This scripture fulfills 1Corinthians 6:3
The first resurrection mentioned in Revelation is the first in a new dispensation of time, just like the first resurrection of OT saints that took place after Jesus resurrected.
Rapture ahead.... For Church Saints that have been saved by GRACE through Faith.
@@larrybedouin2921 I never said Satan was bound at this time
@@theleastofthese5369
No, that is incorrect. Those resurrected with Jesus Christ were only the waive offering of the first fruits.
@@theleastofthese5369
The state of the dead, according to the word of God.
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof *thou shalt surely die*
{Genesis 2:17}
Man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
...
So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their *sleep*
O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, *until thy wrath be past* that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait,
👉till my change come.
...
His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them.
{Job 14:10, 12-14 & 21}
And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in *my flesh* shall I see God.
{Job 19:26}
Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, *nor knowledge nor wisdom* in the grave, whither thou goest.
{The Preacher 9:10}
Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of man, in whom there is no help.
His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; *in that very day his thoughts perish*
{Psalm 146:3-4}
Then said his disciples, Lord, if he *sleep* he shall do well.
Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
Then said Jesus unto them plainly, "Lazarus is dead."
{John 11:12-14}
...
Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection
👉at the last day.
Jesus said unto her, "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet *shall* he live:"
{John 11:24-25}
But go thou thy way till the end be: for *thou shalt rest* and stand in thy lot *at the end of the days*
{Daniel 12:13}
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him *should not perish* but have everlasting life.
{John 3:16}
And *the serpent said* unto the woman, *Ye shall not surely die*
{Genesis 3:4}
Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down *in the midst of the stones of fire*
{Ezekiel 28:14}
^
(satan always turns the tables on God, for he is the father of lies.)
The sinners in Zion are afraid; fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites. *Who* among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?
*He that walketh righteously and speaketh uprightly he that despiseth the gain of oppressions that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil*
{Isaiah 33:14-15}
If anyone errors in their understanding of this doctrine of the dead, then they will in no way be led to the understanding of the truth, for it will be a stumblingblock unto the decernment of spiritual things, including soilterology and eschatology.
It does not say you.🤔
Prince cannot be Christ Jesus, because here the prince had to make sacrifice for himself and others. Christ already ripped the vail once and for all between man and God. Christ will not again to come back to reinstitute the old covenant once again.
Ezekiel 45 9, "princes", not singular not the Messiah. The temple is New Jerusalem which comes from heaven (Rev 21, Isaiah 65). God is showing Ezekiel the temple as it was back then (45 before second temple time) but the one in heaven in order for him to copy it.
We know from Hebrews 8 5 that Moses also copied the tabernacle and all the ceremonial instruments from what he saw was in heaven.
Hmmm...I'm a huge J. Vernon fan but this sure doesn't sound right. He makes the point that all sacrifice BEFORE Christ points TO Christ but then makes the case for animal sacrifice in the millennial kingdom as remembrance or memorial. Why in the Sam Hill would we need to be reminded of animal sacrifice? We are reminded of Christ's sacrifice on an active basis in the millennium because HE IS THERE with us! Re-focusing on animal sacrifice seems like it minimizes Christ's sacrifice and, so, would seem to be an abomination.
Anyway, God took no joy in sacrifice as Samuel tells us from WAY back at the time of the first king of Israel (Saul):
“Has the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices,
as in obeying the voice of the LORD?
Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice,
and to listen than the fat of rams. (1 Samuel 15:22)
Also, if this is the millennial temple then who is the prince? Sounds an awful lot like a human political leader and certainly not like Christ.
Christ is clearly the Shepard in Ezekial's Ch. 34, 36 and etc. A huge part of Israel's apostasy beginning with Solomon was that the leaders (kings) were themselves worshiping idols and leading the people away. The active involvement of the prince in Ezekial's vision at the temple sounds like a way to keep that from happening again.
My small mind landed on that this sounds like what Zerubbabel's/Herod's temple was supposed to have been after the return from Babylon but that those returning didn't keep to God's instruction. I see many of you feel the same. I'm gonna stick with that until someone shows me some Scripture I'm missing.
Bottom line is that my whole focus will ever be on the horrible, perfect and ULTIMATE sacrifice made by our Lord...a sacrifice that I myself made necessary.
"When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit (Jn 19:30)."
It is finished....
@Steve Wright Jesus does say that until heaven and earth pass away, not one jot or tittle would pass away from the Law until all was accomplished. What we must understand today is that the sacrificial system, the priesthood, the temple, and many other "jots and tittles" have passed away from their usage today. This tells us that the Law has changed and we are no longer to follow the Law of Moses but a new Law in Christ. Hebrews 7:12 states "For when the priesthood is changed, of necessity there takes place a change of law also."
@Steve Wright I understand what McGee is stating but the Scripture is clear that Jerusalem, the temple, the priesthood, and the sacrifices are all removed permanently. So then, this is contrary to McGee's teaching on the matter.
@Steve Wright Jerusalem is no longer the center of worship.
@Steve Wright The kingdom of God no longer has a location. When speaking about Jerusalem and its centralized worship, the writer of Hebrews says these words, "for here we do not have a lasting city..." (Heb. 13:14) Also, Paul speaks about two Jerusalem's in Galatians 4, one above and the one on earth. He clarifies on who belongs to each, those of the flesh are in slavery in the earthly Jerusalem and those of the Spirit are free in a heavenly Jerusalem. (Gal. 4:22-31) Lastly, Jesus himself points out in John 4 that no earthly kingdom would exist. He says, "an hour is coming when neither in this mountain (i.e. Gerazim) nor in Jerusalem shall you worship the Father...but an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth." (John 4:21,23) So then, if worship is not foreseen to be in Jerusalem then why would Jesus reign from that place?
@Steve Wright Debated? Not for hundreds of years. Commented on, yes, but not debated. The issue of Jerusalem has only recently been heavily debated with the return of Jews to the land of Israel in 1948.
There is no 'shekinah' glory in the Bible. SMH.
I'll believe in the book of Hebrews and not Vernon...
Animal sacrifice right in the presence of Lord Jesus himself makes absolutely NO sense, even as a reminder. We have the Word of God as our "reminder". We will have Christ himself who will be on earth with us still bearing the nail prints from the cross. This isn't reminder enough!!?? Jesus told Thomas, that they are MORE blessed who believe and who have never seen.
This perspective does violence to the book Hebrews and our salvation. You can believe this and not be a heretic but it's starting you down the path to heresy.
Christ died once for all to put an end to sacrace forever. Those sacrifices looked forward to the reality of christ and now that that full reality has come there is never again a need for animal sacrace, for in them is the memory of sin (Hebrews 10:3) the need for a memory of sin is one of the things Christ's death abolished.
This dude is spouting bad theology. Heck of a preaching voice though lol
Was JVM a follower of CI Scofield? If so, he loses credibility with me.
No more sacrifices today.
Ezekiel's vision was in 25th year of captivity. 580bc
2nd temple was built in 516bc.
Which is this Temple.
Christ is the 3rd Temple.
They tore His temple down but He rebuilt it in 3 days.
Mgee was sadly mistaken.
God is not a lier.
No more need for sacrifices.
I will believe God.
This is classic dispensationalism imposing its ugly face on the Bible and the clear teaching of overall scripture .
" IT IS FINISHED " case closed
When the Feasts are laid out in the OT there is this KEY verse that give us our answer as to WHY animal sacrifices:
And this day shall be unto you for a memorial and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance ***FOREVER*** Exodus 12:14
The sacrificial feast is a memorial, its ***FOREVER***
And its the same in Lev 23:41 for the feast of tabernacles, its ****FOREVER****
Not until the cross, not until the Messiah, but FOREVER Israel will keep these Holy convocations. That is what GOD decreed.
There is still death in the Millennial reign so animals will still be sacrificed on the feast days as laid out in Ezekiel. There will be far less death, but it does not go away until the NHNE. Then there will be feast days with no sacrifice because NO DEATH
You can't kill an animal if there is no more death, and there is no more death in the New Heavens and Earth. But the feasts will be kept in Israel FOREVER as a memorial to Christ.
Is it possible that this is a conditional temple, and a temple vision designed for them to be ashamed of their iniquities? To me this would make a lot of sense, vs a millennial temple and sacrifices after the coming of Christ.
Ezekiel 43:10-11 (ESV): “As for you, son of man, describe to the house of Israel the temple, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities; and they shall measure the plan. 11 And if they are ashamed of all that they have done, make known to them the design of the temple, its arrangement, its exits and its entrances, that is, its whole design; and make known to them as well all its statutes and its whole design and all its laws, and write it down in their sight, so that they may observe all its laws and all its statutes and carry them out."
Disgusting 🤮