That's why the Fathers of Dispensationalism had at least two paths to justification: Israel: Faith + Sacrifice/Works. Gentiles: Faith alone. Current or "Mainstream" Dispensationalists have rejected the Fathers but it creates insurmountable problems for them that they just laugh off. For example, my pastor says that when a passage doesn't fit Dispensationalism ... direct quotation, "It says that but doesn't mean that." There goes their so-called "literal" hermeneutic. ... Dispensationalism is a mess of nonsense.
I don't know where you can get a DVD, but some people download videos from RUclips and save them on a DVD if they are not copyrighted. You might try www.whitcombministries.org/
"All Israel" in Romans 11:26 is misleading for sure. I always inadvertently think ALL Israel, like every Jew that ever lived.but it's only a mere remnant plus our precious OT saints.
There was absolutely no copyright on the packaging or in the video content. I submitted an email to pre-trig.org asking permission just in case, but never got a reply. If I'm ever contacted with an objection by pre-trib.org, then I will remove the videos, but as these are dated several years back, maybe they don't care. They have a conference every year, from what I understand.
Not even close, you are CLEARLY not reading the OT at all and just making wild guesses. Ezekliels temple does not remotely match the post exile temples, not to mention the details of the Holiest of Holies in Ezekiel illustrated this is a POST CROSS temple. There is no veil, no Ark, no shewbread and no lampstand. All the prophetic symbol of Jesus are gone as well as the veil is no longer there.
@@Orange6921 Where does the Bible says the Ezekiel temple is post cross? Also, if it is, why are there sacrifices. I don't buy the memorial theory. Just trying to learn.
@@dannymcmullan9375 Well there are several ways it tells us this is post cross but the most obvious of all is in the details of the Temple and the Most Holy place. Though they make some sacrifices, Ezekiel Temple cannot keep the OT law because there is no Ark, no veil, no shewbread and no lampstand in the Most Holy Place. In the OT law, the High Priest has to go behind the veil once a year and sprinkle the blood on the ark 7 times and do a whole series of things for national forgiveness of sins for the people. If these things are not done then the law cannot be kept and the nation cannot be forgiven for its sins. In Ezekiel's temple, the ark is gone, the veil is gone (remember it tore in two when Jesus dies on the cross), there is no shewbread (Jesus is the bread) and there is now just an empty room with a door (Jesus said I am the Door). There are several other aspects we can point to but this is the most obvious of all. The design is changed from the OT law and they literally can't keep the OT law in this temple, the design is CLEAR post cross and post Resurrection of Jesus. The sacrifices we do see are just a memorial looking back at the completed work of Jesus on the cross, just as they were a memorial looking forward to His work in the OT. If you go back and read about the feast days in the law, it says word for word they are a memorial that will be kept forever.
@@dannymcmullan9375 The fact that its a memorial is not a "theory" my friend, its the WORD OF GOD that says its a memorial. Your arguing with what God said, not what I said. Do I really need to quote those verses for you? I'm not giving you an opinion, I'm quote scripture verbatim.
@@Orange6921 very interesting thank you. I'm just trying to understand. I was talking to some atheist or Jewish guy that was saying Ezekiel 45 destroys Christianity. Just trying to figure out how to respond to him.
Correct, it will be the 1/3 of the nation who survive the Great Tribulation. They will be the remnant "all Israel" of Rom 11:26-27: And it shall come to pass in all the land,” Says the Lord, “That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die, But one-third shall be left in it: 9 I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them. I will say, ‘This is My people’; And each one will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’ ” (Zech 13:8-9) 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.” (Rom 11:26-27)
John Whitcomb deals with these chapters in Ezekiel so profoundly. He brings great clarity.
Dr Whitcomb is such a gracious and godly man.
Praise GOD
For those of a Reformed viewpoint, Dispensationalism should SOLVE the problem of the Millennial sacrifices not create greater problems.
I agree. I’m reformed in every way except eschatology and the view on Israel.
That's why the Fathers of Dispensationalism had at least two paths to justification: Israel: Faith + Sacrifice/Works. Gentiles: Faith alone. Current or "Mainstream" Dispensationalists have rejected the Fathers but it creates insurmountable problems for them that they just laugh off. For example, my pastor says that when a passage doesn't fit Dispensationalism ... direct quotation, "It says that but doesn't mean that." There goes their so-called "literal" hermeneutic. ... Dispensationalism is a mess of nonsense.
I believe the two witnesses are Elijah and Enoch. The two that were taken to heaven before death.
Xoxo win or lose i did it for the black white and blue
I don't know where you can get a DVD, but some people download videos from RUclips and save them on a DVD if they are not copyrighted. You might try www.whitcombministries.org/
pre-trib.org
They're a bit pricey, just so you know :-)
"All Israel" in Romans 11:26 is misleading for sure. I always inadvertently think ALL Israel, like every Jew that ever lived.but it's only a mere remnant plus our precious OT saints.
Oops to KOfi... if pre-trib.org owns it, then that's the bes tplace.
There was absolutely no copyright on the packaging or in the video content. I submitted an email to pre-trig.org asking permission just in case, but never got a reply. If I'm ever contacted with an objection by pre-trib.org, then I will remove the videos, but as these are dated several years back, maybe they don't care. They have a conference every year, from what I understand.
Maybe the issue is not that this temple is a future temple but rather a past temple fulfilled by those coming out of the Babylonian exile in 536 BC.
Not even close, you are CLEARLY not reading the OT at all and just making wild guesses. Ezekliels temple does not remotely match the post exile temples, not to mention the details of the Holiest of Holies in Ezekiel illustrated this is a POST CROSS temple. There is no veil, no Ark, no shewbread and no lampstand. All the prophetic symbol of Jesus are gone as well as the veil is no longer there.
@@Orange6921 Where does the Bible says the Ezekiel temple is post cross? Also, if it is, why are there sacrifices. I don't buy the memorial theory. Just trying to learn.
@@dannymcmullan9375 Well there are several ways it tells us this is post cross but the most obvious of all is in the details of the Temple and the Most Holy place. Though they make some sacrifices, Ezekiel Temple cannot keep the OT law because there is no Ark, no veil, no shewbread and no lampstand in the Most Holy Place. In the OT law, the High Priest has to go behind the veil once a year and sprinkle the blood on the ark 7 times and do a whole series of things for national forgiveness of sins for the people. If these things are not done then the law cannot be kept and the nation cannot be forgiven for its sins.
In Ezekiel's temple, the ark is gone, the veil is gone (remember it tore in two when Jesus dies on the cross), there is no shewbread (Jesus is the bread) and there is now just an empty room with a door (Jesus said I am the Door).
There are several other aspects we can point to but this is the most obvious of all. The design is changed from the OT law and they literally can't keep the OT law in this temple, the design is CLEAR post cross and post Resurrection of Jesus.
The sacrifices we do see are just a memorial looking back at the completed work of Jesus on the cross, just as they were a memorial looking forward to His work in the OT. If you go back and read about the feast days in the law, it says word for word they are a memorial that will be kept forever.
@@dannymcmullan9375 The fact that its a memorial is not a "theory" my friend, its the WORD OF GOD that says its a memorial. Your arguing with what God said, not what I said. Do I really need to quote those verses for you? I'm not giving you an opinion, I'm quote scripture verbatim.
@@Orange6921 very interesting thank you. I'm just trying to understand. I was talking to some atheist or Jewish guy that was saying Ezekiel 45 destroys Christianity. Just trying to figure out how to respond to him.
A remnant of Israel is saved not the WHOLE nation.
Correct, it will be the 1/3 of the nation who survive the Great Tribulation. They will be the remnant "all Israel" of Rom 11:26-27:
And it shall come to pass in all the land,” Says the Lord, “That two-thirds in it shall be cut off and die,
But one-third shall be left in it: 9 I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them. I will say, ‘This is My people’; And each one will say, ‘The Lord is my God.’ ” (Zech 13:8-9)
26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; 27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.” (Rom 11:26-27)