i wish girls and women stop trying to trust a guy who is cheating on his wife... that alone says it all about this man and his morals.:( if he can do it to his wife, the mother of his kids, what do you think he will do to you? people dont just change.
Do you watch true crime often? Probably 85% of the women are cheating on their husband/boyfriend. The double standard is crazy. If women cheats it is just because she is a "free spirit".
Abusers are really good at manipulating a person to the point that their victim knows that being physically, verbally, and emotionally abused believe that when they are treated with love and affection later makes them write off the abuse. Thinking well they said they wouldn’t do it again, but their in a state of complacency and don’t leave. It happens all the time. A married man manipulated her from the moment they met. Saying all the right things, acting “charming” and being the person she is drawn to enough to have an affair with a married man
I will never understand these woman fighting and fawning over ugly, abusive, cheating, loser men. Ladies - have some self respect and treat yourselves better.
I agree but also, the more important subject is : men dont be abusive, cheating losers. The burden and pressure shouldn't be on the victims, but the perpetrators.
My best friend fell in love and learned her boyfriend lied about being married. She ditched him and he later came back into her life after his divorce. They married. He cheated on her. She said to me, "I don't know why I'm surprised since he lied about not being married when we first met." They ended up divorced. Don't date people who are married and lie about it.
My fiancee was married when we first started dating but he was separated from her and now him and I live together a year and a half later not every married man is the same.mine was in a controlling relationship never felt free his ex wife was a narcissist woman still is but I trust him..... mind you he is my childhood love and I would do anything for him
@@jordanalbano9780 if he actually texted that. For someone who was completely wasted so wasted that he was found passed out behind the car he sure texted well. No spelling errors, missing words or incoherent rambling in the messages?
My Dad reminded me of that years and years ago when I discovered the guy I was dating was also dating another girl at the same time unbeknownst to me. I moved on and met the guy that I would marry. We just celebrated our 38th wedding anniversary and the other guy is divorced because of infidelity.
Once a cheater always a cheater my x still after not only cheated on me she has cheated on every man in her life she had six marriage and cheated on every one of them
100% I say this all the time and tell anyone that's been cheated on they've had a lucky escape and the person they cheated on with will never be able to truly trust that person as they're well aware he/she is capable of cheating and even likely to as he/she already did it to get with you...not to mention when both sides cheated on their partners then get together, there is never going to be any real trust and constant doubts in their relationships. I think cheating on someone, especially someone you claim to love and maybe even have a family with, is absolutely disgusting to me.
If I ever told anybody my sweet skinny boyfriend who barely spoke n didn’t even drink or party used to physically n emotionally abuse me, nobody would’ve believed.(this was an affair from 5 years ago!)
I was thinking the same thing. His mother didn’t teach him right that you reap what you sow and there are consequences. The mother is same monster as him
I agree with you. She shouldn’t have looked twice at that man. Rather than putting herself first, for *herself*, she wanted to be first for this married guy. Sad.
He was choking her in front of the children. Where did the children go afterwards? Nobody said where the children was I don’t believe her you have to believe her to think that he was choking her. Is he a good guy? I don’t think so, but this is absolutely insanity that they convict a person, but they don’t know who’s the blood is on himblood splatter those absolute blood splatter I watched him with my eyes swab those those were blood splatter
right ?! ... and the grandparents ... Nov 2023 news article - Cindy Hogan-Edgar of Hemphill, Texas turns self in ... but did not see anything more recent ...
Aww poor Matthew was hurt the women he beat, serial cheated on, degraded, and controlled left him so he drank and he killed her because she showed a liking to another man when he’s sleeping with half the town (with his mullet 🤮)
Do we need proof anyway? Shouldn't we rather care enough to investigate the claims ourselves. Of course, only if we can do it from a safe distance. People have been married for 30 years and feel they know their own spouses only to learn 30 yrs later that they never truly did. So such would be the dynamics here. So, as outsiders looking in, how can we ever really know? So if the person claiming abuse has been proven to be a credible person up until this point, we should want to take the time to learn the truth ourselves vs forming our own opinions just because it's the easier thing to do. There may be nothing we can do to convince someone to leave, but anything beats burying our heads in the sand, especially if lives are lost. Tragic! Let's not speculate, but take the time to care.
That was the first thing I thought as well! Loves his family? Really. Very different definition of love than I have. Very poor choice for a husband and father for her children in my opinion. He acts more like a high school boy.
Ladies, steer clear of immature, insecure men who can't stand being alone for one day without someone by their side because these are the ones who become possessive and eventually abusive.
IMO he's an entitled narcisist. And saying "go for a mature, secure person" can turn into a self centured inferior narcicist when they slowly trap you. (been there). Pick your poison ladies and gentlemen 😄
I miss my mom so much and if I were in his shoes she would have done anything to keep me safe and I would have done the same for her. There’s no bond as strong as a child and their parents. I’m not saying it’s legal but morally it feels right if the parent believes the child is not guilty.
@@Rob-pi1rgthat isn't love. Love is doing what is best for the person, not what make some happy for the moment. Has she done that for her son when he was growing up he never would have ended up in this position. She destroyed him.
@@Rob-pi1rg The best love a mother has is teaching her son right from wrong. He needs to finish the trial. I think she knew he was guilty. She saw the phone and her keys on the driveway. She knows.
Sean: "Matthew loved his family." Matthew loves no one but himself. No one who loves his family cheats on his wife and spends time with another woman instead of his family.
Sean, please do not return to law enforcement. You talked yourself into believing Matthew was innocent because you wanted to believe so - not because he was.
Leave these violent married predators alone ladies. That girl was 18, a nurse, pretty, and no kids. She could’ve done way better than choosing that loser. My heart breaks for her mom
Her mom is part of the problem. She actually was encourging her daughter to be nice to his kids. She should have been giving better guidence like: "Go to school and get a degree. You are too young to be tied down with a divorced man who is an alcoholic and abuser with 2 small children." Giving good advice to their children is a parents job. Libby's mother failed, but hay, if she breaks your heart, that's your decision.
@obimalope8154 how judgmental & awful for u to think a mother could have “done” something with her 17/18 yr old child. What do u think “grounding” them at that age for ANY reason would end with positive results? Esp when the daughter hadn’t even told her mother what was going on!!! So #1)Don’t blame the mother #2) Don’t blame the daughter #3) Educate urself on domestic violence #4) Don’t b so judgmental of others esp when u have only heard 40 some min. Of these 2 beautiful women’s lives!!!!
Honestly the way they treated Livye’s momma in the media was disgusting. She’s an obviously distressed and then grieving mother. She didn’t deserve the crappy behavior people gave her
Ok I'm sure this guy is guilty but how are they just glossing over the fact that he was covered in someone else's blood when he was found at the crime scene and that person was never identified???
@@TheDriftwoodlover He did tussle with his friend that had the party. The guy said in the interview he had to hold him just so the girls could leave, maybe there was a scuffle?
Well, he literally texted that she was dead and he had her phone and keys so yeah.. he did it. I remember the story was he fighting at that party. Police was probably incompetent and didn't tested everyone. And that's how cases get dismiss
Matthew’s former boss is blinded by his friendship with him. He’s likely a former Sheriff’s deputy for a good reason because his spidey-senses are WAY off thinking he’s innocent.
I don't understand why they did not answer her like human beings. What's wrong with them? Like your daughter is in the car she is dead. I'm sorry for your loss. How hard is it to say that?
Yea that bothered me too. I chalked it up to knowing it must be hard to tell mom her daughter is indeed in the car, but she’s not coming out. Raw crime scene
No excuse for botching that conversation - but I’ve had to have a couple of them and it’s just a really hard conversation to have and say the right things when ur trying to balance a very fresh crime and not knowing who may be involved and ur just very aware of trying to not say the wrong thing to the wrong person. Again, they botched it, but it’s easy to judge them for people having never been in that position too.
It’s so weird that someone else’s blood was on his face. Knowing whose blood was on his face is important. I don’t know why investigators didn’t think so
@@thielemeganI think it’s sketchy too. It should have been tested to make sure. Why only on his face? Nothing on his hands or clothes. That’s weird. Not saying he is innocent just that it should have been tested.
Her poor mama begging to know where her child is while the officers didn't want to say. I saw that on body cam soon after it happened and it broke my heart then. That child lived a short life but with more love and family than many. Her mama raised a great person and that's how she needs to be remembered. RIParadise Sweet Angel 🌹
Yes I remember when this footage first came out. I believe it was a year ago but that's back when everybody didn't know everything. And they thought the mother was being ridiculous because they were saying she was interfering with their investigation. Technically she was, and I get where she was coming from but part of the rules were they were not to answer her questions until the corner came there to confirm things. She knew her daughter was dead and she wanted to see her body. I also think they were trying to protect the mom from viewing a horrific scene that would never leave her sights again. Seeing the tarp on the car is more than enough.
I agree. I have a feeling he still did it, but that random blood is confusing to say the least! There were no signs of a struggle and he had no injuries. So how did he end up smeared in someone else's blood?
You never let a man turn you into something you never wanted to be. Praying that Montana is making better decisions for herself these days. She has a second chance to get it right 😭🥺
Rule#1 "Do not get involved romantically with married men or women ready to cheat on their spouses to save you from forseeable troubles and possible murders at worst 🙄🤨
Hopefully, CPS has removed Montana's and Matthew's kids from her custody and put them in the system far, FAR away from that backwater hillbilly town. As sad as it is to say, the boys probably would have a chance at a better life away from both sides of their parents' families.
Dude, how inept was law enforcement? The very first thing they should have done when he went missing was scout the area around his parents house and identify every house in a certain radius, then put a tail on the mother. How it took them over a year to find a dude that was right there the whole time is insane. That's just pure incompetence or disinterest. Probably both.
@eddo1983 well this was a family friend it said, so that may not have helped. Plus getting a search warrant without some kind of evidence is hard. That's why staking out the mom would have been an important first step, especially after there were rumors about her buying a bunch of his favorite things
@eddo1983 yeah, that was actually pretty funny. Especially considering that before they went in they heard him and her talking to each other. I guess she could pretend that she had JUST found him, but... Yeah, come on... She's gonna catch a felony and all she did was buy her son an extra year out of prison.
Once again I wait for the family or friends of the accused to say, “oh yeah he definitely did it” Instead, with this case, we have an enabling mother who obviously helped mold her disgusting son into the piece of garbage he is today. And that “former law enforcement” guy who supports him? Yeah check all of his cases because he obviously never solved them correctly.
Your hopes for a future will not be found in a married man. As for her mother, why couldn't the cops talk to her? The way they just let her stand there and ask where her daughter was, is unreal.
@@cougar2013 Em hello, her daughter was a grown up, what exactly could the mother do? I don’t think for a minute she was happy about her daughter’s choice, but she was 19, so legally out of her mother’s hands.
@@cougar2013 By that logic, shouldn't we blame the mother's mom and claim that the victim's grandmother probably should have done a better job raising the victim's mom? But wait...doesn't that mean the victim's great-grandmother is possibly the person who's really the root of the problem? Should we commission My Heritage or Ancestry to find out who's _really_ to blame? I'm not saying poor parenting doesn't often play a part in one's child making poor decisions. We all know it can and does. But I'm also saying that no matter how well we raise our kids, that's not always going to prevent them from making bad decisions. And further, we certainly can't know all the specifics of a family dynamic from watching a 40-minute mini-doc on RUclips. So when watching these true-crime shows, I'm generally wary of passing judgement on anyone other than the actual criminal who perpetrates the violent crime.
Wow. What’s impressive is how hard 48hrs worked to make these people seem somewhat normal. The only one I feel bad for is Van Sant. He had to sit and talk to everyone involved.
I will never get women who put up with DV or cheating. I found out my now ex was cheating ( after 5 months of him denying it) and I told him to get the f out stay gone! And when he called saying he made a mistake I said “You sure did.”
@@GabriellaDeLaRosa-t3d he played them against each other and they became “best friends” probably because they want to know what the other is doing it’s more of like keeping your enemies close.. they wanted info on each other and definitely had to hate each other
@@guccilady1017Scientific studies show alcohol impairs judgment and removes inhibitions. Some people just handle it better, though everyone is impaired to some degree.
Even before they got into a relationship, he admitted he cheated on his then wife to her. Why would you start a relationship with that person? And he is then violent to her numerous times, yet she still stays. He cheats on her with his ex wife. So many red flags.
Obviously was something wrong with her. A good woman would not want to help him cheat on his wife. she clearly knew he was married. It just shows her character as well.
At the time he killed her though, she had broken up with him weeks before. So she did not stay with him after the abuse and on more than one occasion she told him she would not put up with his abuse. That entire entanglement with the ex-wife and the friend whose house they partied at was messy!
The victim blaming here in the comments is obscene. She was 18, yrs, but she was so young. He was an abuser. It takes 7 times for a victim to leave an abuser. Let’s but the blame where it belongs: Matthew.
He's to blame for killing her. This does not negate the fact that she was knowingly with a married man and was a homewtecker. The two can be true at the same time.
What a bunch of drama all around. None of them seem like very upstanding people. There was all kinds of cheating, drinking, abuse, kids in the middle... What a mess!!
Like we haven't heard this unoriginal gag thousands of times. Try to come up with something new.....something that doesn't insult victims and their families.
Those are certainly factors. Other factors include but are not limited to the following: 1. Do you reside in a sleepy town where everybody knows each other and where news travels like wildfire? 2. Is your house on a cul de sac that sees the children riding their bikes and playing outside until sunset? 3. After you expired, did you present yourself as a mannequin to a man walking his dog or to a woman on her morning jog? 4. Were you the apple of your parents' eyes, the captain of the cheerleading squad, everybody's go-to person for joking and laughing?
Wait, who's blood was on Matthew? Is kind of important to know!! They convict him on a tiny spot but ignore all the blood covering his face and clothes?? Anyone could've sent a text message!
The ex boss is the biggest , most blind clown I have ever seen on this show. What universe is he living in? He needs to seek help as well good god . 🤦🏻♂️
I always look for this in these cases about messed up relationships...but notice there is no father present on her side of things or on his side of things. Probably not a coincidence....these people likely saw really messed up stuff at home as kids, are drawn to each other because of it, & then simply enable each other to repeat it as adults. It's sad.
I hope his mother has to do jail time, she's disgusting. She should have to serve at least the amount of time that she hid her son and lied to law enforcement about it.
Mathew’s mom is trying to change the narrative in recorded jail call by saying “…the woman you loved.” Most would say her name, Montana. His mom is trying to shift the focus away from her son.
RIP to this beautiful soul Livye. Lesson #1: dealing with a man who cheats WITH you, will cheat ON you. I really want people to LEAVE the moment domestic violence starts, love yourself enough to walk away!
Why do they have Bobby walking down the sidewalk with a damn beer for his b-roll 😂😂😂 what is going on??? And why is he hosting parties for such a young crowd???
One point never covered. Before the 911 call, another woman on her way to work said she witnessed the car and truck there and was waved on by a woman standing by the road. I belive that woman was Cindy Edgar because Montana was incapacitated by drink and the Xanax Cindy gave her. Why is she not in jail as an accessory?
@@Cautionary_Tale_Harristrue, but Boss Hogg wore so many hats ( both literally and figuratively! 😅) that after all these years in my memory he was the sheriff too! Haha
I understand she was young, but, a home wrecker is a home wrecker. That’s not cool at all. It’s never worth it. You destroy so many lives, and no idea who can do what?
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Married with 2 kids, 23 years old, and cheating on his wife with a high schooler. Big time winner there
yes. and also yes. New carpets are great btw, so cosy and fluffy and just a whole vibe
😮oh no you didn't 😂
What are you related to Stanley steemer @@FienDeLaere
carpets are out of style, wood is where it’s at
@@BarBeeHoney The wood like flooring today is where its at as real wood floors are a lot of work if you have kids and pets lol
The morality in small towns wow
i wish girls and women stop trying to trust a guy who is cheating on his wife... that alone says it all about this man and his morals.:( if he can do it to his wife, the mother of his kids, what do you think he will do to you? people dont just change.
Do you watch true crime often? Probably 85% of the women are cheating on their husband/boyfriend. The double standard is crazy. If women cheats it is just because she is a "free spirit".
True. Don't forget that she knowingly had an affair with a married man. She's bad too
That's right...the moment I heard 'married', I thought lord, here we go.
And what about what it says about the girl who’s also involved in the cheating? Doesn’t say much about her character either.
Abusers are really good at manipulating a person to the point that their victim knows that being physically, verbally, and emotionally abused believe that when they are treated with love and affection later makes them write off the abuse. Thinking well they said they wouldn’t do it again, but their in a state of complacency and don’t leave. It happens all the time. A married man manipulated her from the moment they met. Saying all the right things, acting “charming” and being the person she is drawn to enough to have an affair with a married man
I will never understand these woman fighting and fawning over ugly, abusive, cheating, loser men. Ladies - have some self respect and treat yourselves better.
I’ve def been there. It takes time to realize you need to stand up for yourself.
I agree but also, the more important subject is : men dont be abusive, cheating losers. The burden and pressure shouldn't be on the victims, but the perpetrators.
It's called being trauma bonded - please research it before you pass judgment on something you don't know anything about.
Why don’t the law enforcement tell her
Livye, volunteered to become a victim by wrecking a family. She may have left him later, but she did not stop involving in the drama and gossips.
My best friend fell in love and learned her boyfriend lied about being married. She ditched him and he later came back into her life after his divorce. They married. He cheated on her.
She said to me, "I don't know why I'm surprised since he lied about not being married when we first met." They ended up divorced.
Don't date people who are married and lie about it.
My fiancee was married when we first started dating but he was separated from her and now him and I live together a year and a half later not every married man is the same.mine was in a controlling relationship never felt free his ex wife was a narcissist woman still is but I trust him..... mind you he is my childhood love and I would do anything for him
@@NicoleLanders-m9gshe said “lied about being married” - not the same situation you described
@@NicoleLanders-m9g the comment had nothing to do with your story.
@populationme and your point is ✌️
This world is sick with sin. People committing adultery and making all kinds of excuses for it is not normal.
Matthew’s texts: “she’s dead”
Matthew’s friends: THERES NO WAY HE KNEW ANYTHING
Omg i know
Freaking absurd
Right ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Seriously
@@jordanalbano9780 if he actually texted that. For someone who was completely wasted so wasted that he was found passed out behind the car he sure texted well. No spelling errors, missing words or incoherent rambling in the messages?
Smooth brains aaaaaall over the place
If they cheat with you, they'll cheat on you
My Dad reminded me of that years and years ago when I discovered the guy I was dating was also dating another girl at the same time unbeknownst to me. I moved on and met the guy that I would marry. We just celebrated our 38th wedding anniversary and the other guy is divorced because of infidelity.
Once a cheater always a cheater my x still after not only cheated on me she has cheated on every man in her life she had six marriage and cheated on every one of them
100%
I say this all the time and tell anyone that's been cheated on they've had a lucky escape and the person they cheated on with will never be able to truly trust that person as they're well aware he/she is capable of cheating and even likely to as he/she already did it to get with you...not to mention when both sides cheated on their partners then get together, there is never going to be any real trust and constant doubts in their relationships.
I think cheating on someone, especially someone you claim to love and maybe even have a family with, is absolutely disgusting to me.
💯💯💯💯
butches gotta lear the hard way
His ex boss says he doesn't believe he did it,abusers are totally different at work and out in the public than at home
True. No one knows what goes on behind closed doors.
But also: he knows. He‘s just an enabler
This is so true……
If I ever told anybody my sweet skinny boyfriend who barely spoke n didn’t even drink or party used to physically n emotionally abuse me, nobody would’ve believed.(this was an affair from 5 years ago!)
So true my x wife had a public face and a private one a true cheater
He was a spoiled rotten child that turned into a self-centered, hateful, abusive adult. He should have gotten life without parole.
People who are hateful are the worst.
He is probably a full-blown narcissist.
I was thinking the same thing. His mother didn’t teach him right that you reap what you sow and there are consequences. The mother is same monster as him
If you take a life, you give a life, I feel exactly like you.
How.many people live to 99 years? Even with coming up for parole.
The mother should get at least 10 years in jail for hiding her son. Don't give her the chance to reproduce...
lol I don’t think that woman is having children. But yeah.
I think that's impossible at this point, but you are right about her receiving time for helping him.
This
@@HellaReckless better safe than sorry lol
Not only that but the mom interfered with the investigation by suggesting the cartel may have been involved!
She should have gone to college. Ladies, please put yourselves first. RIP Livye.
Exactly why do these girls fall for these loser guys :( She had such a bright future.
She wasn't so smart after all
I agree with you. She shouldn’t have looked twice at that man. Rather than putting herself first, for *herself*, she wanted to be first for this married guy. Sad.
Blaming the victim speaks volumes bout you
@@queen_oftheNIGHT he was not blaming the victim.
Reading comprehension will help you.
Matthew choking his ex-wife in front of his children shows how vile and selfish he truly is. Rip Livye 😔
Plus livvy has already had issues with him punching her in the nose and doing stuff to her at that point as well.
Morale of story? Single women should not get involved with married men. Common sense really but Jezebels love the challenge
Exactly!!
He was choking her in front of the children. Where did the children go afterwards? Nobody said where the children was I don’t believe her you have to believe her to think that he was choking her. Is he a good guy? I don’t think so, but this is absolutely insanity that they convict a person, but they don’t know who’s the blood is on himblood splatter those absolute blood splatter I watched him with my eyes swab those those were blood splatter
I dont believe a word Montana says. Also how did livvy's key end up at the grandma's house if he had them
These dumb cops allowed a murderer to escape his own trial, and it took them A YEAR to find him right in his hometown. Incredible incompetence.
That is Texas for you. Had it been a black man, the story would have been different. Execution!
Typical popo. They don't hire the best and brightest at the state and local levels.
I moved here right when it happened, definitely baffling they couldn't find him
Showing many signs that his family was helping him and they did not want to investifate it shows how stupid they are.
these type of incompetence is flourishing around the country
The man who knew him knows he loved his family? Cheat, lie, abuse is not loving family.
Imagine how that guy treats his family.
Exactly. No man who puts his hands on a defenseless woman loves his family
Why is anyone dating this dude . Is he the only Guy in town?
My thought exactly
And not exactly a purdy one either…
True but it is a town of 1000 people so probably aren't many choices once you rule out people over 40.
They all fell for him because of his mullet and his crooked John Lennon glasses.
I don’t understand why a beautiful girl with a bright future in front of her would get involved with someone like that.
Matthew’s mom pretending to be shocked that her ‘missing’ son is in the same house as her is hilarious 😂
She’s definitely not a Rhodes scholar, that’s for sure! 😂
right ?! ... and the grandparents ... Nov 2023 news article - Cindy Hogan-Edgar of Hemphill, Texas turns self in ... but did not see anything more recent ...
thank goodness that friend Shaun Dunn did not stay in law enforcement 😮
After buying his favorite cigarettes and alcohol 😂.
@@bethb8276 it just shows how spoiled he is
Aww poor Matthew was hurt the women he beat, serial cheated on, degraded, and controlled left him so he drank and he killed her because she showed a liking to another man when he’s sleeping with half the town (with his mullet 🤮)
It's like the beginning scene of Idiocracy 😂
Ok and what about her choosing this guy and not leaving him sooner. Did she not see the warning signs?
@ she was a teenager give her a break!
@@hvrs_ teenagers do need breaks, but this?
@@cougar2013 yes this! You really should think about this for a minute.
The people defending this guy are actual imbelices. There is proof he was abusing her. Abuse always escalates.
Exactly right
I’m not defending him. I’m saying that she was a major player in her demise. She’d still be alive if she didn’t make obviously terrible choices.
Do we need proof anyway? Shouldn't we rather care enough to investigate the claims ourselves. Of course, only if we can do it from a safe distance. People have been married for 30 years and feel they know their own spouses only to learn 30 yrs later that they never truly did. So such would be the dynamics here. So, as outsiders looking in, how can we ever really know? So if the person claiming abuse has been proven to be a credible person up until this point, we should want to take the time to learn the truth ourselves vs forming our own opinions just because it's the easier thing to do. There may be nothing we can do to convince someone to leave, but anything beats burying our heads in the sand, especially if lives are lost. Tragic! Let's not speculate, but take the time to care.
Yes it does.... I have lived it.... Extreme verbal... Then a shove .. then bruises.... Then head-butted.. then sexual assaults .. AND THEY DO NOT CARE
Small town, small brains, small silly cops, small detectives, small accountability.
16:43 friend states "he loved his family". Being an adulterer isn't love.
That was the first thing I thought as well! Loves his family? Really. Very different definition of love than I have. Very poor choice for a husband and father for her children in my opinion. He acts more like a high school boy.
and dating a married man when you know he's married means a person isn't a nice person.
It depends why he cheated
@@TitanicSilver, yes, well, it also doesn't excuse the reason why he murdered her , either
Bingo!
Ladies, steer clear of immature, insecure men who can't stand being alone for one day without someone by their side because these are the ones who become possessive and eventually abusive.
So true! Been there done that. RUN FOR THE HILLS!
Oh, ABSOLUTELY!!👍🏻
agreeddd been there done that never again.
IMO he's an entitled narcisist.
And saying "go for a mature, secure person" can turn into a self centured inferior narcicist when they slowly trap you. (been there).
Pick your poison ladies and gentlemen 😄
That guys mom is a horrible person. Your son literally killed someone, and you help hide him in your home. Hopefully she serves jail time
Technically it wasn’t her house….
I miss my mom so much and if I were in his shoes she would have done anything to keep me safe and I would have done the same for her. There’s no bond as strong as a child and their parents. I’m not saying it’s legal but morally it feels right if the parent believes the child is not guilty.
@@Rob-pi1rgthat isn't love. Love is doing what is best for the person, not what make some happy for the moment. Has she done that for her son when he was growing up he never would have ended up in this position. She destroyed him.
@@Rob-pi1rg The best love a mother has is teaching her son right from wrong. He needs to finish the trial. I think she knew he was guilty. She saw the phone and her keys on the driveway. She knows.
Not in that small townl. Justice doesn't live there!
That lad laying on the hospital bed won't win any Oscars.... he's as guilty as sin.
All these girls sleeping with THAT guy? Unbelievable.
My thought exactly.
It was a small town. My guess was not much to choose from?
desperate
Right?! Like EW. What do they see in him???
Gross
Sean: "Matthew loved his family." Matthew loves no one but himself. No one who loves his family cheats on his wife and spends time with another woman instead of his family.
Sean, please do not return to law enforcement. You talked yourself into believing Matthew was innocent because you wanted to believe so - not because he was.
Leave these violent married predators alone ladies. That girl was 18, a nurse, pretty, and no kids. She could’ve done way better than choosing that loser. My heart breaks for her mom
She was not a nurse. She was a nursing assistant.
The blame is with Matthew, not the woman. You need to understand that a teenager is easily manipulated by an older man. It's about power and control.
@@scientistatwork4667or probably just saw the money I'm him.
Her mom is part of the problem. She actually was encourging her daughter to be nice to his kids. She should have been giving better guidence like: "Go to school and get a degree. You are too young to be tied down with a divorced man who is an alcoholic and abuser with 2 small children." Giving good advice to their children is a parents job. Libby's mother failed, but hay, if she breaks your heart, that's your decision.
I hope that she was able to buy a tombstone. A civil suit maybe for whatever money he had, in vehicles weapons etc...
Sounds like his mother is a big part of the reason he's like this. SMH no accountability, no discipline just excuses and coddling. So stupid.
Yep have dealt with ....
Sounds like even the lady's mom is to blame for the daughter being a willing participant in an illicit affair with a married man
@obimalope8154 how judgmental & awful for u to think a mother could have “done” something with her 17/18 yr old child. What do u think “grounding” them at that age for ANY reason would end with positive results? Esp when the daughter hadn’t even told her mother what was going on!!! So #1)Don’t blame the mother #2) Don’t blame the daughter #3) Educate urself on domestic violence #4) Don’t b so judgmental of others esp when u have only heard 40 some min. Of these 2 beautiful women’s lives!!!!
His family helping him hideout is nuts. They should have had charges against them as well for aiding a felon and obstruction of justice.
His mother is being charged.
I thought that would have been standard procedure?
Exactly. It's evident how he became such a POS, and Matthew's mother's eyebrows are a crime as well.
Can’t believe it took the police a year to find him too. You’d think a judge would have allowed a search of that property sooner.
You wouldn't help your own kid?
TEACH YOUR CHILDREN THAT NO MAN PUTS A HAND ON THEM EVER!
*or woman!
Teach your children not to put their hands on others too
TEACH YOUR CHILDREN TO LOVCE THEMSELVES ABOVE ALL!
TEACH YOUR CHILDREN THAT NO ONE PUTS A HAND ON THEM, EVER! Not parents, not wives/girlfriends, not husbands/boyfriends, not teachers. No one
Teach your children not to hit and abuse ever.
That’s the oldest 23 y/o i’ve ever seen!
They're baked differently in the 🇺🇸
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Right?? WTH?? 😂
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The MINUTE you realize you're with a narcissist, RUN AND NEVER LOOK BACK! 😢
Judging by the comments I'm reading, all the ones screaming the most ARE the malignant narcissists.
Honestly the way they treated Livye’s momma in the media was disgusting. She’s an obviously distressed and then grieving mother. She didn’t deserve the crappy behavior people gave her
I’m sorry but those cops need to tell a mother if her child is in hospital or dead. That’s her child! How dare they make her dance around and beg
Exactly my thoughts, too. And zero compassion from any of them as she sat on that road...terrible.
Yes, the no- response from police was worse than anything. Does not know how to handle the situation or comfort mother.
donneisha Harris case and your comment are a perfect example as to why no matter what law enforcement does, someone is not going to be satisfied.
@@BlmnotinAfri.-_- in this case, it was bad. Non committal, just watching the mother suffering!
The cops, acting deaf and dumb was so infuriating. Her poor mama 😢
how? how could this beautiful, intelligent young woman see anything in this good for nothing nobody of a man?
Purely speculation, but probably had a savior complex unfortunately.
Same way people get scammed by cult leaders and other con artists.
THEY DON’T THINK.
Because she wasn’t smart about dating
He was “the bad boy.”
First time around women?
Just because his employer says he was a "hard worker" and he liked him - so what.
The words “Darcy is trying to save up enough money to buy a headstone for Livye’s grave” broke my heart🥺🥺
Ok I'm sure this guy is guilty but how are they just glossing over the fact that he was covered in someone else's blood when he was found at the crime scene and that person was never identified???
True. Wonder if he got in a brawl with someone on the way out of the party.
I agree 100%! He had no injuries and there were no signs of a struggle, yet covered in random blood. So odd.
@@TheDriftwoodlover He did tussle with his friend that had the party. The guy said in the interview he had to hold him just so the girls could leave, maybe there was a scuffle?
Well, he literally texted that she was dead and he had her phone and keys so yeah.. he did it. I remember the story was he fighting at that party. Police was probably incompetent and didn't tested everyone. And that's how cases get dismiss
Matthew’s former boss is blinded by his friendship with him. He’s likely a former Sheriff’s deputy for a good reason because his spidey-senses are WAY off thinking he’s innocent.
He hired a 20yo to manage his oil pipe line????????
Hes acting on emotion not logic. Terrible for a cop.
You hit the nail on the head. He is former oil and gas and former sheriff. This guy has poor decision making skills and a terrible barber
@@CapCityMover😂😂
Cops just think they have an extra sense. This is nonsense. They have no sense.
The way her mother was treated was unconscionable. They wouldn't answer her, they were ugly to her. They offered no comfort. So sad and infuriating.
I completely agree.
I agree too, what heartless hicks.
I don't understand why they did not answer her like human beings. What's wrong with them? Like your daughter is in the car she is dead. I'm sorry for your loss. How hard is it to say that?
Yea that bothered me too. I chalked it up to knowing it must be hard to tell mom her daughter is indeed in the car, but she’s not coming out. Raw crime scene
No excuse for botching that conversation - but I’ve had to have a couple of them and it’s just a really hard conversation to have and say the right things when ur trying to balance a very fresh crime and not knowing who may be involved and ur just very aware of trying to not say the wrong thing to the wrong person.
Again, they botched it, but it’s easy to judge them for people having never been in that position too.
Arrest his boss too! Grown men snapchatting should be a felony. So gross
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It’s so weird that someone else’s blood was on his face. Knowing whose blood was on his face is important. I don’t know why investigators didn’t think so
He had been in a fight earlier with bobby
@@thielemeganI think it’s sketchy too. It should have been tested to make sure. Why only on his face? Nothing on his hands or clothes. That’s weird. Not saying he is innocent just that it should have been tested.
The
friendship" between Lyvie and Montana is an old saying "Keeo your friends close, BUT keep your enemies CLOSER"
Academic intelligence is not the same as emotional intelligence. Livye had low self esteem.
Exactly, low self esteem and just too naive. Not her fault she was killed tho, that was all him.
Good point!
She was young in a small - very small - town. Crazy young hormones with slims pickins can lead to bad decisions.
Very low esteem Nobody in their right mind will steal a woman's husband then become her BFF Livey was EVIL
He was a narc
All those women wanted HIM? 🤯🤢🤧
I reckon. 🤮
@@NoeletteMason-rn3wylol😂😂😂
Is there a scarcity of men in that part of Texas?
@@alisong2328 🤣🤣Sure looks like it.
He’s a master manipulator.
A cheater who has jealousy issues. Shocker
Bingo . Same story different day
A total pos. Cheated, abused and tormented these girls. Then, pressed charges on a mother going through the emotions of losing a daughter.
Her poor mama begging to know where her child is while the officers didn't want to say. I saw that on body cam soon after it happened and it broke my heart then. That child lived a short life but with more love and family than many. Her mama raised a great person and that's how she needs to be remembered. RIParadise Sweet Angel 🌹
Yes I remember when this footage first came out. I believe it was a year ago but that's back when everybody didn't know everything. And they thought the mother was being ridiculous because they were saying she was interfering with their investigation. Technically she was, and I get where she was coming from but part of the rules were they were not to answer her questions until the corner came there to confirm things. She knew her daughter was dead and she wanted to see her body. I also think they were trying to protect the mom from viewing a horrific scene that would never leave her sights again. Seeing the tarp on the car is more than enough.
The judge who released him on bail needs to be prosecuted.
!!! ITS REALY TIME FOR JUDGES TO BE ACCOUNTABLE
He was forced to by law
They didn't have a choice.. that's the law
I’m still intrigued about the blood found on Matthew, they say wasn’t his or Livye’s..whose blood was it?
Exactly.. maybe a person who killed her and then fought with Matthew
Nah @ChristinaBailey2000
Me too & im pretty sure they said they didn’t test the gun for fingerprints/dna?? Like what?!? Why?
No mention of testing for GSR either. That’s detective 101
I agree. I have a feeling he still did it, but that random blood is confusing to say the least! There were no signs of a struggle and he had no injuries. So how did he end up smeared in someone else's blood?
All of them are on the hot mess express.
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Lol... Ugh
You can say that again.
I live about an hour away from Hemphill. A lot of shady crap has happened there not only this.
From being a wife to being a side piece is crazy😮
You never let a man turn you into something you never wanted to be. Praying that Montana is making better decisions for herself these days. She has a second chance to get it right 😭🥺
Rule#1 "Do not get involved romantically with married men or women ready to cheat on their spouses to save you from forseeable troubles and possible murders at worst 🙄🤨
amen!!!!!!! someones speaking facts finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Those poor children, taking your children to a party and putting them in a situation like that
Kid's having kids!
They are all over 18-not kids.
Hopefully, CPS has removed Montana's and Matthew's kids from her custody and put them in the system far, FAR away from that backwater hillbilly town. As sad as it is to say, the boys probably would have a chance at a better life away from both sides of their parents' families.
Dude, how inept was law enforcement? The very first thing they should have done when he went missing was scout the area around his parents house and identify every house in a certain radius, then put a tail on the mother. How it took them over a year to find a dude that was right there the whole time is insane. That's just pure incompetence or disinterest. Probably both.
They should have got search warrants for family members houses.
@eddo1983 well this was a family friend it said, so that may not have helped. Plus getting a search warrant without some kind of evidence is hard. That's why staking out the mom would have been an important first step, especially after there were rumors about her buying a bunch of his favorite things
@@xtraspecialj and sure enough she was there when he was found. She played dumb though.
@eddo1983 yeah, that was actually pretty funny. Especially considering that before they went in they heard him and her talking to each other. I guess she could pretend that she had JUST found him, but... Yeah, come on... She's gonna catch a felony and all she did was buy her son an extra year out of prison.
That's what happens in these small Texas towns. Look at Uvalde.
Was he the only man in town??
😂😂.. small TX town lol…
The only one rockin that sweet mullet
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@@bayouboyentertainment2106 Probably not.
clearly not their was bobby as well...
It's a mystery to me how Matthew found ANYONE to have an affair with him. Yuck.
Matthew is such a loser! Why did these woman gave him the time of day??? He had absolutely nothing to offer them.
Imagine..
What a loser😮why did these women all jump into his bed like crazy
Boring small town, 6 ft+ "bad boy"
BADBOY 6FT
BORING SMALL TOWN
Because they are not too smart.
@@leelunk8235 Half a country song there lol
I mean if you watched the whole thing they seemed to be "spending the night" at alot of dudes houses.
Once again I wait for the family or friends of the accused to say, “oh yeah he definitely did it”
Instead, with this case, we have an enabling mother who obviously helped mold her disgusting son into the piece of garbage he is today.
And that “former law enforcement” guy who supports him? Yeah check all of his cases because he obviously never solved them correctly.
Exactly right
Yes she raised him to be an entitled brat... Hope she gets convicted!
When they found him he arrogantly asked if they’d proved him innocent yet? WTAF?
Filters need to be made illegal. Seeing Montana in pictures then seeing her at the polygraph is like night and day . Not even the same person lol.
Yep. Scary how fake 😮
I find it interesting that that's your takeaway from a show about a young woman who was violently beaten to death by her ex-lover.
@@larafields9813 I find it interesting you took the time to write thinking I would care but ok
I was thinking the same thing! I'm like who is that?
😂 i m sure Thats why she failed the polygr.
The actions of the mother tells you why the son is like that.
Such a compassionate cop, telling mom, "she's in the car." Cold-hearted 🐖
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Your hopes for a future will not be found in a married man. As for her mother, why couldn't the cops talk to her? The way they just let her stand there and ask where her daughter was, is unreal.
LEO's aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. I'm not surprised at all. Especially rural cops.
If mom cared when it counted, there wouldn’t be all these problems.
@@cougar2013 Em hello, her daughter was a grown up, what exactly could the mother do? I don’t think for a minute she was happy about her daughter’s choice, but she was 19, so legally out of her mother’s hands.
@ the mother could have done better with the first 18 years of the girl’s life. What about that?
@@cougar2013 By that logic, shouldn't we blame the mother's mom and claim that the victim's grandmother probably should have done a better job raising the victim's mom? But wait...doesn't that mean the victim's great-grandmother is possibly the person who's really the root of the problem? Should we commission My Heritage or Ancestry to find out who's _really_ to blame?
I'm not saying poor parenting doesn't often play a part in one's child making poor decisions. We all know it can and does. But I'm also saying that no matter how well we raise our kids, that's not always going to prevent them from making bad decisions. And further, we certainly can't know all the specifics of a family dynamic from watching a 40-minute mini-doc on RUclips. So when watching these true-crime shows, I'm generally wary of passing judgement on anyone other than the actual criminal who perpetrates the violent crime.
She was better than to get all entangled in all that mess. She should have just gone on to school and met someone normal there.
Obviously she wasn't.
Montana is not a credible witness.
Wow. What’s impressive is how hard 48hrs worked to make these people seem somewhat normal. The only one I feel bad for is Van Sant. He had to sit and talk to everyone involved.
I will never get women who put up with DV or cheating.
I found out my now ex was cheating ( after 5 months of him denying it) and I told him to get the f out stay gone!
And when he called saying he made a mistake I said “You sure did.”
That mom helping her son hide deserves to be arrested and tried for sure
Poor decisions on everyone part. From the affair to the ex -wife and mistress being “best friends”
@@GabriellaDeLaRosa-t3d he played them against each other and they became “best friends” probably because they want to know what the other is doing it’s more of like keeping your enemies close.. they wanted info on each other and definitely had to hate each other
Yea all that best friends talk is rubbish. My ex tried that with me. It's cause they can't pick one
i hate alcohol and all that it does to a person
Alcohol doesn’t make a person a murderer. It removes their ability to hide the fact that they are a murderer
Alcohol doesn't do anything to a person, unless you're an asshole, it just turns them into a bigger asshole.
@@guccilady1017Scientific studies show alcohol impairs judgment and removes inhibitions. Some people just handle it better, though everyone is impaired to some degree.
Mom buys him his Cigarettes an Liquor in large quantities. Liquor and Cigarettes…
Mother of the year, right there
Explains a lot
"If he cheats with you, he will cheat ON you" Poor Lyvie. She thought she'd "change" the loser. #MAT
Even before they got into a relationship, he admitted he cheated on his then wife to her. Why would you start a relationship with that person? And he is then violent to her numerous times, yet she still stays. He cheats on her with his ex wife. So many red flags.
Obviously was something wrong with her. A good woman would not want to help him cheat on his wife. she clearly knew he was married. It just shows her character as well.
@@MartRavor this channel has become what should be cautionary tales to young ladies. Instead, it’s always the guy who is 100% at fault 🤷
At the time he killed her though, she had broken up with him weeks before. So she did not stay with him after the abuse and on more than one occasion she told him she would not put up with his abuse. That entire entanglement with the ex-wife and the friend whose house they partied at was messy!
@@rashy_deeif he had not been abusive she probably would've stayed with him. That still tells you about her character.
She was a 17 year old kid.
Let me get this straight, so his buddy could tell that dude's reaction is real because he shoved his face into a pillow? Got it. 🙄
😢she was so beautiful but made a huge mistake: get herself with s married man😢
There is not a death penalty on that
The victim blaming here in the comments is obscene. She was 18, yrs, but she was so young. He was an abuser. It takes 7 times for a victim to leave an abuser. Let’s but the blame where it belongs: Matthew.
Well said
Right!
He's to blame for killing her. This does not negate the fact that she was knowingly with a married man and was a homewtecker. The two can be true at the same time.
She was 17 when they got together.
Everybody in the story was basically a fool. Some were just worse than others.
What a bunch of drama all around. None of them seem like very upstanding people. There was all kinds of cheating, drinking, abuse, kids in the middle... What a mess!!
Exactly, in this story, everyone's to blame.
Statistics show that if you light up a room when you walk in OR are the life of the party, you will end up on 48 hours 😂
Like we haven't heard this unoriginal gag thousands of times. Try to come up with something new.....something that doesn't insult victims and their families.
Those are certainly factors. Other factors include but are not limited to the following: 1. Do you reside in a sleepy town where everybody knows each other and where news travels like wildfire? 2. Is your house on a cul de sac that sees the children riding their bikes and playing outside until sunset? 3. After you expired, did you present yourself as a mannequin to a man walking his dog or to a woman on her morning jog? 4. Were you the apple of your parents' eyes, the captain of the cheerleading squad, everybody's go-to person for joking and laughing?
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I agree!!
Wait, who's blood was on Matthew? Is kind of important to know!! They convict him on a tiny spot but ignore all the blood covering his face and clothes?? Anyone could've sent a text message!
He did it
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The ex boss is the biggest , most blind clown I have ever seen on this show. What universe is he living in? He needs to seek help as well good god . 🤦🏻♂️
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Agreed
I always look for this in these cases about messed up relationships...but notice there is no father present on her side of things or on his side of things.
Probably not a coincidence....these people likely saw really messed up stuff at home as kids, are drawn to each other because of it, & then simply enable each other to repeat it as adults. It's sad.
Once a cheater always a cheater. That's why they blame their partner for cheating. Insecurity
Jim Beam has clouded many of judgments, including Matthews.
What a mess.....
How many of these cases that end up on 48 Hours could have been avoided if people would simply not cheat 🤷♂️
Who's blood was on his face? Not saying he's not guilty...he's guilty as hell....but just odd that the blood didn't match either of them...
Maybe Bobby's, from the scuffle earlier?
I hope his mother has to do jail time, she's disgusting. She should have to serve at least the amount of time that she hid her son and lied to law enforcement about it.
POOR CHILDREN HAVE DEPLORABLES FOR PARENTS.
18:00 They knew that call would be recorded so they tried to plant a seed. It was a ridiculous attempt.
Making decisions with a teenage brain can lead to tragedy…
Shame on u!!
So true. It's scientifically proven.
Poor girl. The choice to not go to college and stay with this man cost her, her life. You must always choose yourself especially over a man.
Mathew’s mom is trying to change the narrative in recorded jail call by saying “…the woman you loved.” Most would say her name, Montana. His mom is trying to shift the focus away from her son.
RIP to this beautiful soul Livye.
Lesson #1: dealing with a man who cheats WITH you, will cheat ON you.
I really want people to LEAVE the moment domestic violence starts, love yourself enough to walk away!
IF HE DOESNT REMEMBER, HE DID IT!
Why do they have Bobby walking down the sidewalk with a damn beer for his b-roll 😂😂😂 what is going on??? And why is he hosting parties for such a young crowd???
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This is a stupid comment
Just 1 of those weirdos that doesn't grow up.
One point never covered. Before the 911 call, another woman on her way to work said she witnessed the car and truck there and was waved on by a woman standing by the road. I belive that woman was Cindy Edgar because Montana was incapacitated by drink and the Xanax Cindy gave her. Why is she not in jail as an accessory?
Every southern sheriff over 45 years old looks exactly the same LOL
😂 yep, like Boss Hogg from the 70s show ' The Dukes of Hazzard' lmao
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Yeah but Boss Hogg wasn't the sheriff.
That was Roscoe P. Coltrane.
@@Cautionary_Tale_Harristrue, but Boss Hogg wore so many hats ( both literally and figuratively! 😅) that after all these years in my memory he was the sheriff too! Haha
I understand she was young, but, a home wrecker is a home wrecker. That’s not cool at all. It’s never worth it. You destroy so many lives, and no idea who can do what?
Right, she’s the one who wrecked the home 🤦♂️
Well said
He’s the one who wrecked his “home”.
Home wrecker? Want to get out of the 1960s? The only "home wrecker" was the insecure pizza face who broke his vows.
Finally not a repeat thanks
Yeah, what's up with that? This show has disappeared.
So many red flags... This makes no sense why the parents didn't prevent it
How? Their affair is secret, and after 18 they can't do anything.
They didn't know. Young people can be very secretive!
I don't believe it was kept a secret that long in that town of 1k population
@@cris_ad being a good parent for the first 18 years means that they don’t end up dead soon after reaching adulthood
@@cougar2013what was she supposed to do?
Nothing says I'm not guilty like running from the law.
Please tell me, how can a guy like this have so many women interested in him. Please have more respect for yourself.