Spending an entire week figuring out what tool to use… | Step 411
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When you started dismantling UMA, when she was still in the water and the refit was beginning, I gotta admit my thought was about how big a job you were starting and how long it would take and would I keep watching. I watched a few videos as they came out thinking in the back of my mind “I’ll come back to watch them…” when they’re finished, back on the water, and they have created that ‘1-hour summary of the refit’ video we all love to see. My thinking was, it would be at least 8-12 months to finish the job (LMAO… okay, I was WAY off) and I’d come back then - I didn’t think a year or boat rebuilding would be something I was interested in. Truthfully, I also was worried it may kill the whole channel, let’s face it, those watching your content were sailing fans, they were not construction/renovation fans.
While I AM anxious for the completed UMA to hit the water, credit to Dan & Kika for knowing their audience, producing videos that have kept us all interested and they have successfully bridged the gap between sailing and rebuilding! I still can’t wait to see the “beginning to end” boat build video, and continue on with your journey on the seas, but instead of checking out for a year or two, I am still happy to see that new video land every week and see where you guys are with the project. I’m sure you’ve lost some viewers, but I bet you’ve gained as many (or more) viewers to the channel as you’ve lost. We are all here watching a 20 minute video about scraping the deck of a boat… imagine someone saying to you “let’s go watch this video as these people scrape the deck of their boat”!! 😂 But it’s Dan & Kika and they pull it off brilliantly!!
Well done. 🤠👍🏼☮️
Wow. Thanks Rick! Your kind and insightful take is much appreciated.
I won't lie I think the sailing is neat but I came for their original boat building stuff and stuck around for the sailing and adventuring. Dan and Kika have an eye for detail and do a great job capturing the process on video as well! I may be biased as I have spent far too long grinding and fiberglassing on my own boat, a houseboat built in BC Canada... probably not far from Dan's childhood stomping grounds!
@@chrislizon7483 Very well said and I can easily see MANY people doing the same, coming for the build and getting into the sailing as a side effect. I guess if I think about it, the first video of theirs that I saw was before they had ever put UMA in the water; binging the channel allowed me to get into the build AND the sailing in rapid succession!
Well, somebody said "boats are never ready". I originally believed I could fully renovate my old 1975 L28 in 5 years. It is now 11 years and counting :) Somehow the sailing itself eventually tells us how the boat should be and in the process we also figure out that the original boat designer did not really know what s/he was doing. The same applies to many other products too, we, the users, have to fix/improve/alter them in order them to be useful to us. Ouch.
@@SailingNema Agreed!! And I 100% understand your refit. I bought a 78 Tanzer 27’ in 1984, so while old by today’s standards, it wasn’t that old back then but it definitely needed a refit. We were going to upgrade the interior while we learned to sail and make (in our minds) our own “little yaa-chit” (play of the spelling of yacht). I think we took maybe two trips with her, a couple of hours each. All we got done inside was getting cushions recovered (my wife worked for a furniture manufacturer so that was easily outsourced), bought a new fridge (easy to install), and I installed a new sound system and a charting display system. That was over 3 years! Lol. Now in fairness, I’m in Canada so we have shortened sailing times here, but truly the excitement wore off very quickly and what we had was a small floating cottage we’d go to on the weekends for BBQ’s and to see our friends. I often wonder if the people who bought her ever got her updated and sailed a long time with… If I had to guess, I’d bet she got pulled out of the water at the end of one summer and remained on the hard until she crumbled to scrap, that was a very common site at the storage yard. 🤪🤠👍🏼
The chisel - a sharp one - gets under what is Kiwigrip’s weakness - the interface from deck to kiwi. It’s peeling it off at set temperature. All power tools just heat the Kiwi up, melding it to the deck. They reinforce the Kiwi’ weakness.
Kika please protect your knees, just get something soft under them!
Yup you've strong legs but Rebecca from Teulu tribe wrecked her knee not so long ago kneeling doing a job ... She had to come back to 🇬🇧 for 6 weeks to get it sorted out to the point she could stand and move again. 🧙🏼♂️ I know to my cost they are programmed to get you eventually.😖
They are working 10-14 feet up with no fall protection, & you worry about her knees?
Always excellent videography. You make it look easy and seamless. The content is interesting. Your personality gives the videos flavor. You and Dan are excellent together.
I watch a lot of channels about sailing. I am sooo impressed by the tasks you have taken on without reservations about difficulty and time to get it done. (Also RAN Sailing. ) So much to learn and appreciate. Wish I was still your age. Sure you could but a new state of the art boat, like Doodles, Tula and Wynns. There is a lot to learn there too. But building your own home draws me back every week, guaranteed!
These may not have been the most exciting/sexy projects you've tackled to date on the refit, but every bit of progress means you're one step (no pun intended) closer to being finished and back on the water! I actually found the scraping to be oddly satisfying. Out with the old to make room for the new 👍
I cant express the chills I get each week when it out of no where way to sudden its time to whistle along, like dueling banjos. Whereever I am it echos.
Genius. These boat build videos could have been boring but you guys are hitting it out of the park. I've really enjoyed watching each episode.
They really know how to keep the audience engaged
You two work so well together.
When in doubt hold on to the kiss principle. 😅
You mean the "Kika Is Seriously Sweet" Principle? : - )
@@scyz2807
keep it simple stupid
The thumbnail looks like you have a Bahco 665 Tungsten Carbide Scraper, but I did not see it in the video. Like you I tried many devices over the years. I last removed the bottom paint on a C&C Landfall 38 using a Bahco scraper. I was amazed at how easy, less messy, and safer (no particulates to worry about). I bought the scraper and a second tungsten carbide blade. It's been 10 years and I have used the Bahco everywhere and have still not replaced the blade! It's a Game Changer! Too bad you missed testing it.
That's the regular one most swedes use for scraping their wood houses from old paint. Works excellent (doing a whole house can be pretty good overbody training 😅 most use of for their smaller summer cottage) and a new blade is like $15
+1 for the Bahco.
Great for old paint and varnish
Might try method that is known by some as best. Heat gun and scraper (or chisel).
yep. ended up doing exactly that in the end. the combo heat gun and that cheap little scraper worked wonders.
Love the Henry! Best tool of them all.
Work smarter not harder,, a very good rule to follow..
I remember watching the video in which you added the kiwi grip!
The winch on the truck being used as an offload crane is a great idea. Work smarter not harder. Too bad the mast wasn't there for the solar panel arch.
Stanley makes a manual paint scraper that you pull instead of push 028617 that would have been the perfect tool. Alas, too late. Great job Kika!
wrote a bunch about scrappers, but then you guys figured it all out... ...They make a 4 inch wide, 2-foot handle, floor scraper that would have been the best, and the blade is off angle, so it slices better....like that yellow handle job on steroids.
The right tool for a job is always best. The grinder is great for taking down material, and the simple hand chisel gives you greater control, but is slower than the oscillating tool with the chisel blade. But the purpose build scraper was clearly the winner. Once again, the right tool for the job is always best. Great build video. Cheers from Winnipeg.
I have to hand it to you. I was in the Coast Guard and we used a sand blaster. A nasty business that was done in a ship yard. Well done. You deserve a nice glass of Bourbon for all that effort.
Keep on a keeping on you two, love it, long time subscriber.❤❤
are you planning a video on your truck buildout anytime soon? As always, great video. You guys are by far the best story presenters of any of the sailing channels.
Taking the solar panels & the stainless tubing off is great it's starting to look like a sailing boat.
You're better than Consumer Reports!
We went through that painting cars in the 1970s. We discovered both the quickest and best way was to chemically strip it. WARNING: This may not be an option with a fiberglass boat or any plastic or composite surfaces!
For fiberglass, I recommend not using a grinder because it'll dig into the fiberglass. Instead, I recommend finding a chemical strip compatible with whatever matrix (epoxy or polyester resin) from which you're removing the paint/kiwi grip.
The grinder isn't useless, however... You can use it to keep your chisel sharp! That said, I'd use a file for sharpening your chisel.
Hey you two, check out the last episode of WE SAIL. Warren created a boom sailbag with embedded solar panels. At the end of this last episode, he had it built and did a basic check for fit and it looked good, but he had yet to wire it, so no verified stats re: output/efficiency. Point is, it appears to be a helluva genius way to increase solar panel area without needing to build intricate, heavy support structures or gluing them to the deck and risking impact damage from foot traffic or something else.
Okay since you both have done great work on the boat for years now. Can you make some of the processes you have to do like a game with reward that promotes your relationship? Just thinking of different fun ways to add to your adventure. Thanks for letting us share in it.
Awesome as always. Thanks :)
Well...watching paint being scraped is slightly more interesting than watching paint dry. Thank God for Kika rizz, amiright.
Card scrapers are also great for removing certain paints as, especially when you want to be careful not to scratch too deep. They don't make fine dust and they are just so satisfying to use. And when they are dull, just make a new burr with a metal file. The flexibility of a card scraper is another bonus.
Sharpen your 5-in-one. You don't want too much wider because the deck is not flat. "Just use a chisel" Why not, and no mask or ear protection.
Purdy 6 in 1 scraper with 4inch wide blade are really tough.Sharpen it up with grinder .I use it for nearly everything
Epic courage you guys have. I learn so much. ❤ Right now, my husband and my sister in law are full filling a dream to walk. The Camino de Santiago 907 kilometers. They are 12% into this trek. 🎉. I am rv supporting and cooking, cleaning all things dirty. 😂. Supplies and equipment, foods, fuel, driving. There are a few perks. Guinness for one! Loads of alone time. 😢. Catching your videos does ease that alone time. Thank 😊 you so much.
No one tool does everything well.
I use a flap wheel on my grinder to remove hardened bottom paint.
The multitool with the scrapper blade works well when the material that needs to be removed is pliable.
But sometimes a chisel is still the best tool.
I once got in an disagreement with a coworker when I was using a chisel to scrape epoxy off a table. I was popping chunks of epoxy off a work table, so I could sand the table down, to clean it up a little bit. He yelled at me saying I was abusing a tool, using it for that purpose. I found it amusing that an item meant to peel away layers was somehow damaged by the process. He acted like we didn't have a complete set of hones to sharpen them afterwards.
There are a large variety if grinding disks for your grinder, they also come in various materials. Pls look into those. Specifically the ones that look as if made out off cardboard & flaps. They are hard to desrcribe, but when you see them, my description makes more sense.
They also make a variety of steel brushes for your drill. They are round& come in many (& I do mean many) diff sizes. These are specifically made to remove paint. You'd have to be a bit careful with them, as they are more made for steel boats. They work exceptionally fast& you may find yourself within a short time frame disappointd that your work is already done. Hahaha. As said, as long as you are a lil cautious while using them, you'll be done super fast with this job.
Thanks for all of your great videos!
Flap disc?
@daveh4106 Yes, yes yes! Flap disks! Apparently being back in Germany for 5 yrs now, is too long& I somehow have forgotten what my own tools of the trade are called in English hahaha.(I am a Welder, Fabricator, Cert Mechanic& done my share of painting vehicles& Motorcycles). Thank you again, I could not remember the name of them, even while using the word what they are called to describe them. Freakin hilarious.
20 yrs ago, while living in Arizona, I asked someone what the Hitchcock movie with the birds was called. Equally hilarious. Still loling about that one as well.
Again, Thank you, I cant believe I did that; this will have me laughing about myself for some time!
Point stands though flap disks, are great & meant (amongst other stuff), to be used for this type of work.
The good news, end of next year I will be in England rebuilding a Narrow boat, so the names of the tools should all come right back to me. Anytime I'll use a flap disk, I probably will chuckle from here on out.
That's great you did that, from what I see of others these days, they just about build solar panel's right into a boat deck so just about anything goes these days! Good video!
Awesome, simply marvelous, you guys Rock!
Hi Kika, wow what a good job with the chisel you’re looking absolutely fantastic fit as a fiddle I really love and appreciate you both. Can’t wait for Uma to be back in the water where she belongs but in the meantime I’m really enjoying the reef it keep up the good work , Cliff from Logan City, Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺 we are on the big island 🏝️
ok. those vaccuum eyes!!🤣🤣🤣
My 5 in 1 is in my cleaning bucket. I use it for all kinds of things. I wrap a rag around it for small spaces. Best tool to clean window frames, small point gets in tiny cracks or corners. It scrapes up anything dry or sticky. Everyone should try it!!!
You two are very interesting, intelligent and funny. Thank you for the enjoyment. I have, as a screen saver Kika doing her acrobatics with silks. Absolutely my most favorite!
you know what to work with, but you always have to try different solutions. and yet it worked for others.... 😉 we wish you perseverance. renovation can be exhausting and discourage you from owning a yacht. stay strong.
Nice work with the winch!
love the problem solving and the lightbulbs going off.
Great job Kika! The humble paint scraper eh??? Good job, and don't forget to do reverse stretches (press up position, but leave your hips on the ground) to releave the pressure on your back after you've been crouched over in a stress position. Hangs in a pull-up position are good too. Tough work 👍👏👏👏
Great episode! So sharp and well put together. The production, although simple, is exquisite. I can't wait to see UMA 3000 (?) when she is done. Plus, I haven't been able to stop whistling the UMA call at the end.
Love how useful something as simple as a chisel is. I used a handheld planet for a similar project recently where the chisel wasn’t wide enough
If you're going to mount some or all of your solar panels on an elevated platform again, I would definitely look into bifacial panels. On the water is maybe the best possible scenario for them. I would also consider mounting them vertically on the sides, not just the top, of your arch if you do another arch.
I kept waiting for you to get a larger chisel.
There is actually a very effective and inexpensive thing called a "paint scraper" that has a palm hold as well as handle and replaceable blades which works a treat (like the chisel but a 4 or 5 inch swath) purpose built for your task.
Tried it. Didn’t work as well.
What amazing is the ingenuity that went into the boat so many years ago.
I have a pulse laser cleaning machine. Stupidly expensive but we’re finding uses for it absolutely everywhere. Once my boat hauls, I will be removing bottom paint and VC-Tar.
Your chisel has a huge advantage in no vibration and being much lighter than the power tools. A jack-plane would probably also be useful. Like a chisel, but you can set the depth and take long consistent strokes and clean up corners with the chisel. Also, the non-vibrating hand tools leave a much better, cleaner surface. The others probably also have lots of clean-up passes to make a finished, paint-ready surface.
From the guy that didn`t bring you the MEGA PINT - The all new MEGA SCRAPER!
Floor scraper! Essentially a 5 or 6 inch flat blade on the end of a broom handle.
We use them for scraping up old vinyl flooring and tile adhesive, etc.
The grey KiwiGrip with your matching Sunbrella made Uma look very nice
Just from years of working on boats and in different countries and with different employees, scraping has always been the choice both for paint and varnish. The scrapers have replaceable working surfaces that can be sharpened. It doesn't take off the underlying substrate, so you don't lose your boat over the years. And minimal costs. Technique is key. All commercial boats where money is important scrape, at least the charter, fishing, freight, and ferry boat enterprises I've been involved with. As for solar, bifacial. Also look at You Tube vids showing vertical mounting of bifacials. I'm mildly thinking of installing a panel on every stanchion.
I have just watched your "Step 411". Your chisel was impressive. I just wanted to tell you about the Bahco scrapper - model 665, (no I don't have any connection with Bahco), but I have used this scrapper for about 17 years, mainly to remove old antifouling paint, to plane wood and to plane cured, but rough, epoxy repairs. It is ergonomically designed and works better than anything I've used before,
I appreciate the suggestion. But often we just need something readily available here in Olbia,Italy. If we need to order something that takes 2 weeks to get here for a project that takes 2 days, often times it’s just not worth the wait. Maybe someone needing to do a similar job will read your comment and try it for their project 😊 so nonetheless, your comment is appreciated
Hello Dan, you are fantastic. But you Kika, you are just the Best. Thanks again, to both of you for a beautiful Video.
I used my scraper/multi tool the other day to clean up some silicon along a glass window. OMG it worked fantastic. Great little simple tool.
Great to see you, like every week, since the beginning of this great trip from the USA some years ago!!
I like the Makita grinder/sander.
So good! Looking forward to your new solar install very much! Always interested to learn what is good and light in solar.
Kiwigrip is soft and rubbery so it gums up sand paper very quickly, I had the same stuff on my deck and ended up using 9 in angle grinders and MANY 80 grit disks to remove the stuff. Even grit blasting was ineffective. One tip was to paint a new coat of kiwigrip over the top to soften the paint then use a scraper, was told this AFTER we used the big grinders.
We use a long handle scraper to remove dangerous goods labels from shipping containers and it works great
Truly a stripped-down Uma. Great job you two🥰
Cheerful comment to aid with engagement and cheer you on! Woo! Go you!
FYI You can sharpen the 5in1 tool and get it chisel sharp. :-)
You just have to be *REALLY* careful with it after that. (I don’t think you need to ask me how I know this!…)
It would be good to keep a file handy and sharpen the 5 in 1 or a wider chisel often.
But on the ground, not on the boat deck so you don't get rust dots.
I have been following you since the Caribbean and I love what you are doing with Uma 3.0. Loved the verity of tool you tried and how the wood chisel preformed very impressive, my friend and I are curios on how a electric hand held wood plainer would have preformed? Love your show thanks!
The resurfacer is great for cleaning an polishing all sorts of things, but you definitely have to fit the right drum. The straight abrasive drums can clog pretty quick on gummy surfaces. I’ve yet to invest in a metal wire brush for it, but the fibre brush can be pretty aggressive on paint. I’ve got the same unit and a larger Vevor unit with is a little easier to get into odd spaces, like channel iron. The flapwheel/scotch-brite drums are great for irregular surfaces, but I can see how they’d be less effective on grippy layered surfaces.
That's a lot of deck to scrape. I'm glad you found a good tool for the job.🙂🙂
How about weight a towel over the work area and soak it in paint remover, cover with plastic and let it marinate for awhile. Should nearly wipe right off. I don't know how deep it would go though... could be a fun experiment for the vlog.
Paint remover is just nasty and hot sunny areas a lot of the time it dries out before it works properly & to properly remove it and the bubbled paint you need a petrol power washer.
Anvil scraper might work, wider than the chisel.
That's interesting Kika, I have found the same thing with the wood chizel, as it gives you good control of the blade and it doesn't bend like that other thing. Guys you maybe interested to know that to clean off soft adhesives like sikaflex off plastic (Nylon, Lexan, etc) there is composite chizels too which you just sharpen with a fine file and then fine sand papers. FYI on my boat i have a tool chest which holds all my tools, if it doesn't fit it isn't coming but I think there is room for a multi-tool, great work.
Here's a title for you - "Just Scraping By" . : - D
I also vote for this title.
😅
That hand remote for the winch is so awesome!
reminds me of one of the old clamation stop action cartoons!
Kika, a little late for now, but I had used Kiwigrip on a slick tile floor, figuring if it worked on deck it might work on the tile.
And found out a year later that harsh home cleaners actually can melt it off--no scraping needed.
I can't be sure which cleaner it was, I used several. And can't say what it might do to the deck paint. But I can you for sure, household chemicals can get it to release after some hours.
I have a induction cooker that last one is what I use to clean it. Saves a lot of scrubbing.
Great video. Very useful. Keep it up!
Kika, the "5 in 1"is affectionately known as a PFT. Painters Favorite Tool in the painting world.
I have a ProScaper and have to say it's awesome and has a vacume attachment. It's like the chisel but much wider and with a vacume.
I wish there were more Kikas. She is clearly amazing.
been watching since beginning you guys rock
Sharpen the 5 in 1 with the grinder. Oscillating tool yes!!
A chisel is my favorite boat tool. Really. Namaste. 🙏
Negative Marie Kondo , the joy of discovering that thing you have been hanging on to or just turned up is the thing you needed all along.
Good info for Step 411!
Every day a little closer to being back on the waves. And all so instructional.
I just found mine, brand is "HYDE" replaceable blades and you can flipp them from rough to fine scrapping.
Consider using Cork decking, it is a environment friendly renewable material, amazing thermal insulator, durable and comfortable on feet.
Definitely one of the options we’re considering.
just in time.
I was go to start my paint removal task tomorrow
For next time: most winches have a free spool handle that disengages the drum from the gearing.
Makes spooling out rope way faster.
Angle grinder flap disk to sharpen the 5 in 1 tool.
just sharpen the 5 in 1? Or, we're going to need a bigger chisel
there is a great tool available in Canada, that looks like a long scraper, with one end bent to 90 degrees. You can use both ends for scraping, the straight end is rather sharp.The thing is that it is made from hard steel, so it does not flex much, which is very good for control. It is about a foot long and two inches wide. You can also use it as a suprisingly heavy duty pry bar. One of my favourite tools. Maybe they have these in Europe.
Ouhhhh that does sound fancy. Too bad we’re already done with this part of the project. lol . I would say next time, but O guarantee there wont be a next time with this stuff. 😅
@@SailingUma LOL, you should consult me before you start any project ;-) My hat off to your determination and perseverance.
ya know I have been thinking for a while now how to prevent so much rust on the inside and opening of stainless. I would suggest to spray in silicone lubricant into the holes in all directions and at the holes on the edges and just outside put the silicone lubricant used for orings in facets. If the silicone gets washed off you can put it back pretty easily. This will prevent water intrusion and save you stainless
Are you gonna use solarpanels that is flexible panels and you can walk on
(from The Neverending Story) "To the winch, wench!"
I had better results using a chisel on a short wooden broom handle . the fine control and physical power control was the best for me so far .